1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:12,961 Speaker 1: Apoche Production. Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am 2 00:00:13,041 --> 00:00:14,601 Speaker 1: Neil the Muscle comments. 3 00:00:14,521 --> 00:00:17,041 Speaker 2: And in this episode I speak with high class escorts 4 00:00:17,201 --> 00:00:17,921 Speaker 2: Karlie Electric. 5 00:00:18,561 --> 00:00:21,401 Speaker 3: I find it really ironic just riding a jockey. I 6 00:00:21,561 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 3: find it so ironic. 7 00:00:22,721 --> 00:00:25,801 Speaker 1: There's no kiss. I'm just asking. 8 00:00:26,161 --> 00:00:30,521 Speaker 3: I just really get sick of fucking myself. They come 9 00:00:30,561 --> 00:00:32,321 Speaker 3: and see me because I give them a safe space 10 00:00:32,321 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: where I'm not going to judge them. I'm not going 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,361 Speaker 3: to be there beating their meat, trying to get it 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: harder and be disappointed. I'm just your regular aussy bloke. 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,121 Speaker 1: I was about to say that, then I was just 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: about to say that. 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,161 Speaker 3: Then yeah, just with really nice tits. 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: So okay, thank you for coming on my podcast. It's 17 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:55,041 Speaker 2: been so long trying to get you on. 18 00:00:55,401 --> 00:00:57,681 Speaker 3: I know it has, but we finally got it together. 19 00:00:58,161 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: I felt like I nearly had to pay you to 20 00:00:59,561 --> 00:00:59,801 Speaker 1: come on. 21 00:01:02,081 --> 00:01:02,801 Speaker 3: It would have happened. 22 00:01:05,121 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: Before we get into the nitty gritty. 23 00:01:06,801 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: Let's start off about you growing up, schooling family, getting 24 00:01:12,681 --> 00:01:15,201 Speaker 2: up to mischief, and then we'll see what led you 25 00:01:15,241 --> 00:01:16,681 Speaker 2: to down this garden path. 26 00:01:17,041 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: Okay, fun born Krli actually my name and I'm Melbourne 27 00:01:24,801 --> 00:01:29,321 Speaker 3: and I grew up with a big family, grew up 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: in Melbourne. Absolutely loved growing up in Melbourne. Was a 29 00:01:33,961 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: good kid, really, come from a very strict household, very strict. 30 00:01:39,481 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: I was the eldest daughter and I've got two older brothers. 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,481 Speaker 1: Sot we talking like very. 32 00:01:47,041 --> 00:01:50,201 Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, no no no no no, couldn't couldn't 33 00:01:50,241 --> 00:01:52,961 Speaker 3: do anything like that. It was a very quite a 34 00:01:52,961 --> 00:01:57,521 Speaker 3: tough upbringing. It was. It was quite hard, yeah, just 35 00:01:57,681 --> 00:02:01,841 Speaker 3: being so so so strict. I was a high achiever, straight, 36 00:02:01,841 --> 00:02:05,281 Speaker 3: a student, bit of a I don't know, I used 37 00:02:05,281 --> 00:02:12,521 Speaker 3: to dab on people. Oh well, I was just well, 38 00:02:12,601 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: this is what I've come to learn, is that God, 39 00:02:17,281 --> 00:02:20,161 Speaker 3: I'm bringing this up so early. Well two minutes in 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,921 Speaker 3: and I'm already bringing this up. I have a praise 41 00:02:23,001 --> 00:02:26,841 Speaker 3: kink that I've just worked out. And so I've just 42 00:02:26,881 --> 00:02:30,361 Speaker 3: worked out that because I didn't receive enough love and 43 00:02:30,401 --> 00:02:33,881 Speaker 3: affection as a child that now in my adult years 44 00:02:34,361 --> 00:02:37,081 Speaker 3: i respond really well to people telling me that I'm. 45 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,081 Speaker 1: A good girl. 46 00:02:39,441 --> 00:02:42,961 Speaker 3: Anyway, Oh God, I've brought up so soon anyway, So 47 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 3: it was it was. Yeah, Look, it was a different 48 00:02:47,041 --> 00:02:49,881 Speaker 3: upbringing I think from maybe what most kids had. And 49 00:02:50,321 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: I just tried constantly to get the approval of my parents, 50 00:02:55,561 --> 00:02:58,601 Speaker 3: and I went to nine schools in nine years. Yeah, 51 00:02:58,721 --> 00:03:01,161 Speaker 3: so just it was just a bit of a shit show, 52 00:03:01,201 --> 00:03:03,801 Speaker 3: to be honest. The thing that moving around so much 53 00:03:03,881 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: and going to so many different schools is like changing 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,361 Speaker 3: schools is pretty daunting for kids. But I would roll 55 00:03:10,361 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: into a new school halfway through the year and I'd 56 00:03:12,441 --> 00:03:16,121 Speaker 3: be like, Hey, I'll hang out with you later. Hey, whoa, Yeah, 57 00:03:16,161 --> 00:03:19,001 Speaker 3: I'm Carly. He's nice to meet you. Like, I just 58 00:03:19,121 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: would roll into schools and just I could reinvent myself 59 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: and be whoever I wanted to be. I'd be like, yeah, 60 00:03:26,041 --> 00:03:28,361 Speaker 3: my name, people call me Lee. And then people started 61 00:03:28,361 --> 00:03:29,761 Speaker 3: calling me Lee for a while because I just thought 62 00:03:29,761 --> 00:03:31,881 Speaker 3: it was cool for something else. And then I just 63 00:03:31,921 --> 00:03:33,441 Speaker 3: know that I'd end up going to a new school, 64 00:03:33,481 --> 00:03:35,121 Speaker 3: and you know, a year later, I'd go to a 65 00:03:35,121 --> 00:03:38,441 Speaker 3: different school and reinvent myself and start again. It was 66 00:03:38,641 --> 00:03:41,881 Speaker 3: quite a strange upbringing. The thing that it's brought me 67 00:03:42,041 --> 00:03:45,001 Speaker 3: is the fact that I'm able to connect and talk 68 00:03:45,041 --> 00:03:47,481 Speaker 3: to anybody and be in any situation and hold my 69 00:03:47,521 --> 00:03:52,561 Speaker 3: own and job. Mac is Mac is drive through chick. 70 00:03:53,561 --> 00:03:57,001 Speaker 1: Actually, I can see that you at the window, do 71 00:03:57,001 --> 00:03:57,761 Speaker 1: you want a big mac. 72 00:03:59,121 --> 00:04:03,361 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, really, yeah. It was quite confronting. It's a 73 00:04:03,441 --> 00:04:05,241 Speaker 3: bit of a weird job for a fourteen year odd. 74 00:04:05,321 --> 00:04:11,001 Speaker 3: So I started working when I was fourteen and vie 75 00:04:11,001 --> 00:04:13,801 Speaker 3: at the drive through window and it's they don't make 76 00:04:13,841 --> 00:04:17,001 Speaker 3: them elevated anymore. Just FYI, I've come to notice. So 77 00:04:18,801 --> 00:04:21,401 Speaker 3: my seat was elevated, so I was kind of up 78 00:04:21,401 --> 00:04:23,801 Speaker 3: and you would pass your money up through the window. 79 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: And the thing is, because I was looking down, men 80 00:04:26,921 --> 00:04:29,281 Speaker 3: would just be coming through drive through in box of 81 00:04:29,361 --> 00:04:32,841 Speaker 3: shorts and I'm fourteen years old and I have been 82 00:04:33,481 --> 00:04:38,961 Speaker 3: everything's hanging out. I was in such a sheltered upbringing, 83 00:04:39,001 --> 00:04:42,001 Speaker 3: like it was so sheltered. I was sheltered completely from 84 00:04:42,041 --> 00:04:46,481 Speaker 3: the world, and then suddenly I'm thrust into McDonald's drive 85 00:04:46,561 --> 00:04:49,921 Speaker 3: through where I'm just like it was such an eye 86 00:04:50,001 --> 00:04:52,841 Speaker 3: opening experience. I got to hang with boys for the 87 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: first time. I got to talk to boys, and I 88 00:04:55,201 --> 00:04:58,481 Speaker 3: got to because I'd only ever been to all girls 89 00:04:59,041 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: poshally okay, and so I was able to talk to 90 00:05:02,841 --> 00:05:05,281 Speaker 3: boys that I worked with, and men were coming through 91 00:05:05,361 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: drive through, and for me, it was just like a 92 00:05:07,361 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: whole new world. 93 00:05:08,561 --> 00:05:09,841 Speaker 1: When did you get first. 94 00:05:09,561 --> 00:05:13,121 Speaker 3: Out I was. I was. Actually it was a couple 95 00:05:13,161 --> 00:05:17,161 Speaker 3: of days before my sixteenth birthday, I think, or or 96 00:05:17,201 --> 00:05:19,281 Speaker 3: a week before my sixteenth birthday. 97 00:05:19,841 --> 00:05:22,801 Speaker 2: You tell your parents or you didn't tell them. 98 00:05:23,401 --> 00:05:28,041 Speaker 3: Oh I did. I did, and I got kicked out. 99 00:05:28,401 --> 00:05:32,281 Speaker 3: So I actually moved out of home. I moved out 100 00:05:32,281 --> 00:05:34,801 Speaker 3: of home when I was fifteen. I left school because 101 00:05:34,801 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: I couldn't pay the school fees myself mc donald's. So 102 00:05:38,801 --> 00:05:41,761 Speaker 3: I had to leave school and I had to move 103 00:05:41,801 --> 00:05:46,081 Speaker 3: out of Yeah, the family home hold Ontal. 104 00:05:46,241 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: And what's going on because you just said it was 105 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,081 Speaker 2: a nice family home. They were strict, and all of 106 00:05:52,121 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: a sudden, now you're getting kicked out because you couldn't 107 00:05:54,481 --> 00:05:57,561 Speaker 2: pay the fees and you got a boyfriend, and so 108 00:05:57,921 --> 00:05:58,921 Speaker 2: you've kicked out of home. 109 00:05:58,961 --> 00:06:01,841 Speaker 3: It was just very it was their rules, like there 110 00:06:01,921 --> 00:06:06,521 Speaker 3: was no leeway for anything. They were very, very very strict. 111 00:06:06,681 --> 00:06:11,041 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody ended up moving out of 112 00:06:11,041 --> 00:06:14,481 Speaker 3: home really early. It was just not realistic. It was 113 00:06:14,681 --> 00:06:16,801 Speaker 3: it was not realistic. I can understand that they were 114 00:06:16,801 --> 00:06:19,921 Speaker 3: trying to protect us from the world, but it just 115 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,441 Speaker 3: it wasn't realistic. 116 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:22,801 Speaker 1: Parents. 117 00:06:23,161 --> 00:06:28,161 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do. Relationship, it's quite strained, it's quite strained. 118 00:06:28,801 --> 00:06:30,081 Speaker 1: Is that because the industry that you're in. 119 00:06:30,761 --> 00:06:34,241 Speaker 3: No, No, right, yes they talked to that. 120 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,601 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but come, I have a boyfriend back when 121 00:06:36,641 --> 00:06:37,121 Speaker 1: you were sixteen? 122 00:06:37,201 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: Correct? Correct? 123 00:06:38,481 --> 00:06:40,641 Speaker 1: How is that working? 124 00:06:41,121 --> 00:06:41,281 Speaker 2: No? 125 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,561 Speaker 3: I think I think maybe they're maturing. I think that 126 00:06:44,601 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: they were just accepting it young. And I think that 127 00:06:48,521 --> 00:06:50,801 Speaker 3: they just thought that they were doing the right thing 128 00:06:50,841 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 3: by sheltering. 129 00:06:51,561 --> 00:06:53,801 Speaker 1: Using pushed you away. 130 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but then they lost everyone, and so yeah, I 131 00:06:56,561 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: moved out. I had to get a second job. So 132 00:06:58,201 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: I was working two jobs. I was like fifteen, I 133 00:07:01,121 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: was going from job to job and I yeah, lived 134 00:07:06,401 --> 00:07:07,361 Speaker 3: in a rental. 135 00:07:09,081 --> 00:07:12,841 Speaker 2: What made you go down the path that you did? 136 00:07:13,441 --> 00:07:15,601 Speaker 2: What made you go into this industry? There must have 137 00:07:15,641 --> 00:07:19,641 Speaker 2: been something about this industry that went this looks like fun, 138 00:07:19,841 --> 00:07:20,401 Speaker 2: This is me? 139 00:07:21,401 --> 00:07:21,961 Speaker 1: What was that? 140 00:07:23,281 --> 00:07:28,881 Speaker 3: Two things? I think I am naturally quite a sexual, 141 00:07:29,001 --> 00:07:34,961 Speaker 3: sensuous person. It just comes naturally to me. I was 142 00:07:35,041 --> 00:07:39,401 Speaker 3: always out picking up, having a fucking great time, just 143 00:07:39,721 --> 00:07:43,761 Speaker 3: in the club in cluster thing anyway, having a great time. 144 00:07:43,961 --> 00:07:48,121 Speaker 3: And I just always felt sexy, and I always got 145 00:07:48,121 --> 00:07:51,881 Speaker 3: a lot of attention from guys, and I just so 146 00:07:52,001 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: there was that side of it. There was that side 147 00:07:53,841 --> 00:07:55,841 Speaker 3: that I knew that I could carry myself within the 148 00:07:55,841 --> 00:08:00,241 Speaker 3: industry that but then the other side is like a 149 00:08:00,281 --> 00:08:04,121 Speaker 3: lot of women who come to this industry, it's the 150 00:08:04,161 --> 00:08:05,201 Speaker 3: allure of money. 151 00:08:05,601 --> 00:08:07,761 Speaker 1: Have the money or they've got a habit. 152 00:08:08,321 --> 00:08:10,641 Speaker 3: Yeah, well for me, it was definitely money. 153 00:08:12,561 --> 00:08:12,761 Speaker 1: You know. 154 00:08:12,841 --> 00:08:16,681 Speaker 3: I have been a designer for years and years, a 155 00:08:16,721 --> 00:08:19,801 Speaker 3: senior designer, really good at what what I do. I've 156 00:08:19,921 --> 00:08:24,161 Speaker 3: worked for myself, I've worked for big business, I've done 157 00:08:24,441 --> 00:08:29,921 Speaker 3: a million things within the design industry. I really did 158 00:08:30,001 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: love it. The thing is, just doesn't pay that well. 159 00:08:32,641 --> 00:08:35,161 Speaker 3: And it got to a point where my car had 160 00:08:35,361 --> 00:08:39,441 Speaker 3: had it, absolutely had it, and I couldn't afford to 161 00:08:39,441 --> 00:08:42,201 Speaker 3: fix it. And I actually reached out to my parents 162 00:08:43,161 --> 00:08:45,561 Speaker 3: and I said, look, I need help. I'm not going 163 00:08:45,641 --> 00:08:46,841 Speaker 3: to be able to get to work and I'm going 164 00:08:46,881 --> 00:08:49,921 Speaker 3: to get fired. I can't fix this car. And my 165 00:08:50,361 --> 00:08:54,481 Speaker 3: dad came and bought a new battery for my car. 166 00:08:54,521 --> 00:08:56,881 Speaker 3: I was trying to fix my car, and as I'm 167 00:08:56,921 --> 00:08:59,041 Speaker 3: standing there and he's putting the car battery in and 168 00:08:59,121 --> 00:09:01,081 Speaker 3: I'm just like I was in tears. I was just 169 00:09:01,121 --> 00:09:03,481 Speaker 3: like I can't keep on living like this, Like I've 170 00:09:03,481 --> 00:09:05,481 Speaker 3: got to be able to look after myself. This is 171 00:09:05,641 --> 00:09:09,801 Speaker 3: ridiculous and I can't do this myself. I can't look 172 00:09:09,841 --> 00:09:13,721 Speaker 3: after myself. I'm not earning enough money to do that. 173 00:09:13,801 --> 00:09:17,041 Speaker 3: And I was even working hospitality at nights, like I 174 00:09:17,081 --> 00:09:19,321 Speaker 3: was working sixty to eighty hours a week. I was 175 00:09:19,361 --> 00:09:23,841 Speaker 3: exhausted anyway, So I was just like, Oh, what could 176 00:09:23,881 --> 00:09:27,481 Speaker 3: I do? And it's funny because I don't know. It's 177 00:09:27,521 --> 00:09:30,001 Speaker 3: almost like maybe when women think this way, they think 178 00:09:30,081 --> 00:09:32,601 Speaker 3: maybe I could be a stripper, or maybe I could 179 00:09:33,361 --> 00:09:38,401 Speaker 3: going straight from being a designer straight into escorting. I 180 00:09:38,561 --> 00:09:40,521 Speaker 3: feel like I might have missed a couple of things 181 00:09:40,521 --> 00:09:41,041 Speaker 3: in the middle. 182 00:09:41,161 --> 00:09:41,721 Speaker 1: I think you did. 183 00:09:42,081 --> 00:09:46,921 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I cannot dance, And I always say that 184 00:09:47,001 --> 00:09:49,721 Speaker 3: I dance like a lane from Seinfeld, Like there's just 185 00:09:49,761 --> 00:09:52,081 Speaker 3: like arms and legs moving like I cannot make anything 186 00:09:52,121 --> 00:09:54,801 Speaker 3: like that look sexy. So I knew that stripping was 187 00:09:54,841 --> 00:09:56,801 Speaker 3: just off the table. And I was like, well, what 188 00:09:56,841 --> 00:09:59,681 Speaker 3: am I good at? I'm really good at hooking up 189 00:09:59,681 --> 00:10:04,041 Speaker 3: with people. Here we are, So how. 190 00:10:03,961 --> 00:10:05,721 Speaker 1: Did you do it? How did you What was your 191 00:10:05,721 --> 00:10:09,721 Speaker 1: fish like work and where'd you work? No? 192 00:10:10,081 --> 00:10:13,881 Speaker 2: Privately, didn't do that, eachels No, Oh wow, so you've 193 00:10:13,881 --> 00:10:14,881 Speaker 2: just gone straight to the top. 194 00:10:15,401 --> 00:10:17,641 Speaker 3: Yes, I just come. 195 00:10:17,761 --> 00:10:20,401 Speaker 1: I don't know, did you like, so you got your 196 00:10:20,401 --> 00:10:21,161 Speaker 1: own atvets out there? 197 00:10:21,201 --> 00:10:24,081 Speaker 3: And yeah, it's actually so ballsy, And see that is 198 00:10:24,121 --> 00:10:28,561 Speaker 3: ballsy that I'm Adhd. And so there's a certain element 199 00:10:28,561 --> 00:10:31,281 Speaker 3: of being ADHD in which a lot of fear is 200 00:10:31,321 --> 00:10:35,721 Speaker 3: taken out, like where risk takers. And so I researched 201 00:10:35,761 --> 00:10:38,521 Speaker 3: as much as I could. I felt comfortable and I 202 00:10:38,601 --> 00:10:41,081 Speaker 3: felt like I was educated enough in what I was 203 00:10:41,121 --> 00:10:44,401 Speaker 3: doing that I could potentially pull it off. And I 204 00:10:44,441 --> 00:10:48,641 Speaker 3: thought to myself, I'll do it once if they. 205 00:10:48,601 --> 00:10:52,601 Speaker 1: Always say once, if I everyone says once, I'll. 206 00:10:52,361 --> 00:10:55,641 Speaker 3: Do it once. And if it's shit and it was 207 00:10:55,721 --> 00:10:57,881 Speaker 3: a bad experience, and I'm like, oh, no, I can't 208 00:10:57,921 --> 00:11:00,401 Speaker 3: do this. I can't have sex with somebody that I 209 00:11:00,601 --> 00:11:03,041 Speaker 3: just met or I'm not attracted to, because I'd never 210 00:11:03,081 --> 00:11:04,681 Speaker 3: done that. But I'd only ever hooked up with people 211 00:11:04,681 --> 00:11:07,241 Speaker 3: that were I was like, oh you're cute or we're 212 00:11:07,321 --> 00:11:10,161 Speaker 3: dating or something, but never just had sex with somebody. 213 00:11:10,761 --> 00:11:13,161 Speaker 3: And I didn't want to have sex with So that 214 00:11:13,321 --> 00:11:16,041 Speaker 3: was the biggest That was kind of the biggest. 215 00:11:16,041 --> 00:11:17,441 Speaker 1: Over So how did you get over that? 216 00:11:18,001 --> 00:11:19,081 Speaker 3: Money? 217 00:11:19,361 --> 00:11:19,561 Speaker 1: Look? 218 00:11:19,601 --> 00:11:25,121 Speaker 3: Money, Okay? So I just was like all right, I'm 219 00:11:25,161 --> 00:11:29,121 Speaker 3: just going to take some photos. I took some photos 220 00:11:29,121 --> 00:11:32,601 Speaker 3: of myself. They are horrific. I actually look back through 221 00:11:32,641 --> 00:11:37,521 Speaker 3: the photos now, and I don't know how people even 222 00:11:37,801 --> 00:11:40,881 Speaker 3: contacted me. Anyway, they were so they were so bad. 223 00:11:41,001 --> 00:11:44,601 Speaker 3: I put my advert up. I just put my price. 224 00:11:44,641 --> 00:11:46,921 Speaker 3: I think it was three hundred and fifty dollars for 225 00:11:47,001 --> 00:11:51,641 Speaker 3: an hour, and I kind of maybe thought that nobody 226 00:11:51,681 --> 00:11:54,681 Speaker 3: would contact me, or people might reach out in a 227 00:11:54,681 --> 00:11:57,841 Speaker 3: week or two. And as soon as the ad went 228 00:11:57,921 --> 00:12:01,881 Speaker 3: live that afternoon, my phone was just going off, probably 229 00:12:01,881 --> 00:12:06,761 Speaker 3: because I was so fucking cheap. Remember, I actually have 230 00:12:06,881 --> 00:12:09,961 Speaker 3: to drive past his place of business every day. It's 231 00:12:09,961 --> 00:12:12,161 Speaker 3: only a couple of straights away from where I live. 232 00:12:13,961 --> 00:12:17,161 Speaker 3: It's actually and sometimes I see him, say, getting into 233 00:12:17,161 --> 00:12:20,881 Speaker 3: his car or whatever at the front of his business. Yeah. Yeah, 234 00:12:21,361 --> 00:12:23,601 Speaker 3: I think it's kind of like losing your virginity. You know, 235 00:12:23,681 --> 00:12:26,041 Speaker 3: you always remember who you lose your virginity to. Well, 236 00:12:26,241 --> 00:12:30,121 Speaker 3: losing my virginity to my sex work of virginity to 237 00:12:30,321 --> 00:12:33,881 Speaker 3: this guy. And he's a business professional in his fifties, 238 00:12:34,561 --> 00:12:37,201 Speaker 3: and he was just a lovely guy. And I have 239 00:12:37,361 --> 00:12:39,921 Speaker 3: no idea what I did, or I was kind of 240 00:12:39,921 --> 00:12:43,241 Speaker 3: looking for little cues from him. I don't know what 241 00:12:43,281 --> 00:12:45,201 Speaker 3: I meant to do in an hour that I meant 242 00:12:45,601 --> 00:12:47,681 Speaker 3: that I'm with him for like, I had no idea, 243 00:12:47,761 --> 00:12:49,921 Speaker 3: but I just winged it. 244 00:12:50,041 --> 00:12:52,681 Speaker 2: Did you just switch off to like because you say 245 00:12:52,721 --> 00:12:55,441 Speaker 2: you only kind of never done this before and you 246 00:12:55,521 --> 00:12:57,721 Speaker 2: only get attracted and do this when you get attracted 247 00:12:57,761 --> 00:13:00,641 Speaker 2: to somebody, so not know one who's coming through your 248 00:13:00,681 --> 00:13:03,441 Speaker 2: front door. And when you've seen him, were you attractive 249 00:13:03,521 --> 00:13:05,001 Speaker 2: or you just went I'm thinking of the money. 250 00:13:06,361 --> 00:13:10,641 Speaker 3: I was excited by it. I actually had a great time. 251 00:13:11,041 --> 00:13:15,161 Speaker 3: I was having orgasms everywhere. I had a great time. 252 00:13:15,441 --> 00:13:18,481 Speaker 3: And he's not somebody that I would ever look at, 253 00:13:18,561 --> 00:13:22,001 Speaker 3: or ever date or be within my personal life. But 254 00:13:22,481 --> 00:13:26,401 Speaker 3: we connected, we talked, I found him interesting, and I 255 00:13:26,561 --> 00:13:30,561 Speaker 3: was titillated and excited by the whole experience. I thought, Wow, 256 00:13:30,681 --> 00:13:31,561 Speaker 3: this is I just. 257 00:13:31,721 --> 00:13:34,041 Speaker 2: Make money so that calms you down and relaxed you 258 00:13:34,041 --> 00:13:35,201 Speaker 2: for the next one and the next one and the 259 00:13:35,241 --> 00:13:35,641 Speaker 2: next one. 260 00:13:35,721 --> 00:13:35,961 Speaker 1: Yeah. 261 00:13:36,041 --> 00:13:38,761 Speaker 3: And I walked out of that place, and I honestly 262 00:13:39,081 --> 00:13:42,801 Speaker 3: I was walking downstairs out to my car with the 263 00:13:42,841 --> 00:13:45,121 Speaker 3: new battery in it, and I was just like, oh 264 00:13:45,121 --> 00:13:47,361 Speaker 3: my god, I could do this, Like I had one 265 00:13:47,361 --> 00:13:49,481 Speaker 3: of those moments that you see in movies where people 266 00:13:49,561 --> 00:13:51,161 Speaker 3: just like do a little hap and I was like, 267 00:13:51,241 --> 00:13:54,761 Speaker 3: I can do this. But I mean now looking back, now, 268 00:13:55,121 --> 00:13:58,161 Speaker 3: oh my god, I didn't idea this guy. I didn't 269 00:13:58,561 --> 00:14:00,521 Speaker 3: get a deposit like all the things that I have 270 00:14:00,641 --> 00:14:02,761 Speaker 3: in place now, Like he could have been a dickhead, 271 00:14:02,801 --> 00:14:04,881 Speaker 3: Like I could have had a really bad experience. But 272 00:14:05,121 --> 00:14:06,961 Speaker 3: I just threw myself in the deep end and lucky 273 00:14:07,001 --> 00:14:08,521 Speaker 3: for me that it actually worked out. 274 00:14:08,881 --> 00:14:11,641 Speaker 2: You haven't had anybody you've disliked when they've come and 275 00:14:11,681 --> 00:14:12,721 Speaker 2: it's very hard for you. 276 00:14:13,041 --> 00:14:15,161 Speaker 1: Is that being with someone what's turned you off? 277 00:14:15,481 --> 00:14:18,681 Speaker 3: Look, I don't mind having a drink. I'm well known 278 00:14:18,761 --> 00:14:22,561 Speaker 3: for my tequila and loving a mug, and you know 279 00:14:22,641 --> 00:14:25,801 Speaker 3: I don't mind those things. But when you come to 280 00:14:25,841 --> 00:14:29,521 Speaker 3: see somebody like me and you're inebriated, that instantly is 281 00:14:29,561 --> 00:14:31,441 Speaker 3: a red flag and quite scary for me. I don't 282 00:14:31,481 --> 00:14:36,721 Speaker 3: care who you are, and you know it just it 283 00:14:36,801 --> 00:14:40,481 Speaker 3: does put me off a little bit if somebody is inebriated. See, 284 00:14:40,521 --> 00:14:43,921 Speaker 3: I don't work really at night. I'm a lady of 285 00:14:43,961 --> 00:14:49,641 Speaker 3: the mid afternoon, okay, And I don't like working at 286 00:14:49,721 --> 00:14:52,681 Speaker 3: night because generally you know, guys have been partying or 287 00:14:52,681 --> 00:14:55,961 Speaker 3: they've been shrinking, or you know, it's just a safety 288 00:14:55,961 --> 00:14:58,761 Speaker 3: thing for me. But in Perth, yeah, I did turn 289 00:14:58,881 --> 00:15:01,641 Speaker 3: up to an out call. This is actually I no 290 00:15:01,721 --> 00:15:04,601 Speaker 3: longer offer out calls for people that I don't know. 291 00:15:05,841 --> 00:15:09,281 Speaker 3: And because I turned up in Perth and this guy 292 00:15:09,321 --> 00:15:12,841 Speaker 3: who just seemed you know, he was probably like forties. 293 00:15:12,921 --> 00:15:15,401 Speaker 3: He was in a nice collared shirt and he was 294 00:15:15,521 --> 00:15:18,281 Speaker 3: personable when I met him in the lobby, no problem. 295 00:15:18,361 --> 00:15:21,441 Speaker 3: Got up to his room. All the furniture is on 296 00:15:21,481 --> 00:15:24,561 Speaker 3: the side or all the furniture, like the beds, the 297 00:15:24,721 --> 00:15:27,681 Speaker 3: coffee table, everything was up against the wall. And I 298 00:15:27,721 --> 00:15:30,241 Speaker 3: instantly thought, I'm like, oh, this guy's had a party 299 00:15:30,441 --> 00:15:38,801 Speaker 3: like me, just not thinking badly of anyone. And he's like, oh, yeah, 300 00:15:38,841 --> 00:15:42,001 Speaker 3: so do you smoke ice at all? And pulls out 301 00:15:42,081 --> 00:15:45,401 Speaker 3: the biggest bag. It was like one of those sandwich 302 00:15:45,441 --> 00:15:49,561 Speaker 3: bags that's like a four size and it was full, 303 00:15:50,041 --> 00:15:54,721 Speaker 3: and I froz, like fight or flight just kicked in 304 00:15:54,761 --> 00:15:57,561 Speaker 3: for me, and I froze. I did not make it 305 00:15:57,601 --> 00:16:00,161 Speaker 3: past the kitchen bench. And he pulls out the pipe 306 00:16:00,201 --> 00:16:04,521 Speaker 3: and just starts smoking up and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 307 00:16:04,761 --> 00:16:08,641 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, no, sorry, I can't. I can't 308 00:16:08,681 --> 00:16:10,641 Speaker 3: do this. Like and he's like, oh, no, no, no, that 309 00:16:10,761 --> 00:16:12,641 Speaker 3: that's cool. I'll just go do it in another room. 310 00:16:12,681 --> 00:16:15,801 Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, you don't understand. I can't be 311 00:16:15,961 --> 00:16:21,281 Speaker 3: here with you doing this with this amount of drugs. 312 00:16:21,721 --> 00:16:24,521 Speaker 3: But also and I was like, and then I noticed 313 00:16:25,081 --> 00:16:30,041 Speaker 3: the sweat pouring down this guy's face. Then I realized 314 00:16:30,081 --> 00:16:32,521 Speaker 3: that his whole shirt was transferred. I was like, how 315 00:16:32,601 --> 00:16:35,601 Speaker 3: many how long have you been awake for? And he's like, oh, 316 00:16:35,641 --> 00:16:38,801 Speaker 3: this is day five. And I was like, oh, bro, 317 00:16:39,481 --> 00:16:41,601 Speaker 3: I'm out of here, like I can't, I can't do 318 00:16:41,721 --> 00:16:44,001 Speaker 3: I can't do this, I can't do this. That was 319 00:16:44,081 --> 00:16:47,321 Speaker 3: That was that for me was terrifying. I'm making light 320 00:16:47,441 --> 00:16:49,521 Speaker 3: of this and saying that, you know, I was out 321 00:16:49,521 --> 00:16:51,601 Speaker 3: of there. It actually took me nineteen minutes to leave. 322 00:16:51,641 --> 00:16:55,841 Speaker 3: I couldn't leave. It was. He was terrifying, bit of both. 323 00:16:55,881 --> 00:17:02,241 Speaker 3: He was suicidal. Yeah, yeah. I was at a place 324 00:17:02,241 --> 00:17:04,721 Speaker 3: where he was in tears, laying on the kitchen floor 325 00:17:04,761 --> 00:17:06,521 Speaker 3: and I was still standing in the same spot I 326 00:17:06,561 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: had been the whole time, and I just said, okay, 327 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,121 Speaker 3: I can go now. 328 00:17:11,241 --> 00:17:14,321 Speaker 2: You say, your client's book you for four or five hours. 329 00:17:14,681 --> 00:17:18,281 Speaker 2: I know this might sound stupid that to me, four 330 00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: or five hours? 331 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,641 Speaker 1: What what the fuck you doing for four or five hours? 332 00:17:21,921 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? So I actually get booked for four hours. I 333 00:17:25,441 --> 00:17:28,481 Speaker 3: do have a package where I'm booked for four hours, right, 334 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 3: And generally in four hours you can do a lot, 335 00:17:31,921 --> 00:17:33,441 Speaker 3: Like you can go out for dinner and. 336 00:17:33,481 --> 00:17:36,121 Speaker 2: Drinks, so you're not just stop there, you can you'll 337 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:36,441 Speaker 2: go out. 338 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: And so I am a little bit wary. I do 339 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: when somebody is just like, oh no, just come to 340 00:17:41,481 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: my hotel. I'm like, okay, what are we doing for 341 00:17:44,001 --> 00:17:48,681 Speaker 3: these four hours? Because I don't want to have sex 342 00:17:48,721 --> 00:17:52,041 Speaker 3: for four hours? No, No, believe me, it's never happened 343 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,321 Speaker 3: because nobody can like, yeah. 344 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,161 Speaker 1: That's what what do you do for five hours? 345 00:17:55,160 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 3: So I think, but generally they are people who want companionship, 346 00:18:00,241 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: and so a lot of what I do, maybe fifty 347 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: percent of what I do is companionship. Okay, And so 348 00:18:06,481 --> 00:18:09,521 Speaker 3: you know, I watched a Netflix crime doco the other 349 00:18:09,561 --> 00:18:13,721 Speaker 3: week and ordered room service and got in comfy clothes 350 00:18:13,801 --> 00:18:17,081 Speaker 3: and yeah, yeah, so I do. I do a lot 351 00:18:17,120 --> 00:18:17,401 Speaker 3: of that. 352 00:18:17,761 --> 00:18:19,681 Speaker 1: Do you prefer the older time or the younger. 353 00:18:19,481 --> 00:18:23,441 Speaker 3: Time older, but I never really get them old. 354 00:18:23,481 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: What were you talking about? How old we're talking? Yeah? 355 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 3: No, not not very old. I'm not very old. People 356 00:18:29,441 --> 00:18:31,321 Speaker 3: are like, oh, did you see seventy year olds? No, 357 00:18:32,521 --> 00:18:37,041 Speaker 3: forty fifty. Everybody's twenty eight. 358 00:18:36,921 --> 00:18:39,961 Speaker 1: To twenty eight. That's not bloody old. 359 00:18:40,201 --> 00:18:45,401 Speaker 3: Twenty eight to fifty is that age range? There are 360 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 3: occasionally the eighteen year olds and the nineteen year olds. Yes, terrifying. 361 00:18:52,681 --> 00:18:57,481 Speaker 3: They still play Fortnite. It is terrifying. But then you know, 362 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,321 Speaker 3: ever soften know, we'll get a sixty year old or 363 00:19:00,521 --> 00:19:05,041 Speaker 3: and I much prefer, I much prefer the old boys. 364 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: What would you do if someone booked you and then 365 00:19:07,001 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: you turned up and you knew the person? 366 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that scares me. Uh, it's actually a recurring nightmare 367 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: that I have that happened yet. No, because my booking 368 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,201 Speaker 3: process is so rigorous that I know who you are 369 00:19:23,241 --> 00:19:26,561 Speaker 3: before I arrive or before you arrive to me. I 370 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 3: already know generally who you are, so I would know 371 00:19:32,321 --> 00:19:34,681 Speaker 3: if I know you already. I do have people who 372 00:19:35,761 --> 00:19:38,001 Speaker 3: know me in my private life who do reach out 373 00:19:38,001 --> 00:19:40,961 Speaker 3: to my work phone and send me an inquiry and 374 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,561 Speaker 3: when and when I know No, I don't even reply. 375 00:19:44,801 --> 00:19:46,561 Speaker 1: So that's a rule of yours. You want, you will see. 376 00:19:46,801 --> 00:19:48,801 Speaker 3: I won't see somebody that I know. If you got 377 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,321 Speaker 3: bad gramdmar or spelling, I won't see you. If you 378 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: address me incorrectly, I won't see you. So I have 379 00:19:55,561 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: really narrowed down the kind of person that I see, 380 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 3: and I'm having a great time. And they're really lovely people. 381 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,681 Speaker 3: They're so interesting, they're so interesting. I this is quite 382 00:20:09,681 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: a while ago, Okay, just made me remember. I was 383 00:20:15,561 --> 00:20:22,921 Speaker 3: seeing a scientist who was helping bring five G to Australia, 384 00:20:23,801 --> 00:20:27,961 Speaker 3: and so I was around all of this insane equipment 385 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: and like learning about five G before it was even announced. Like, 386 00:20:31,801 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 3: I meet some really interesting, wonderful people, and I just 387 00:20:37,041 --> 00:20:40,321 Speaker 3: grilled them on how wonderful and interesting their life is. 388 00:20:40,441 --> 00:20:43,761 Speaker 3: I asked so many questions. Yeah, I meet some fascinating people. 389 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:44,881 Speaker 1: Would you change anything in. 390 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,441 Speaker 2: The industry because it's a bit hard for you because 391 00:20:46,561 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: you've done it privately all your life, so you've not 392 00:20:48,801 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 2: seen the industry, like for brothels in that book, in 393 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:52,801 Speaker 2: the way you have. 394 00:20:53,321 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: Is there anything you could change? 395 00:20:55,041 --> 00:21:01,481 Speaker 3: Of course? Laws We just got d crim in Queensland, 396 00:21:01,681 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 3: which is fantastic. Yeah, it's laws also, I guess civilians 397 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 3: perception on sex workers that needs to change. It is 398 00:21:12,481 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 3: getting better. I've been in the industry now for maybe 399 00:21:15,721 --> 00:21:21,481 Speaker 3: seven years, and it is evolving rapidly, rapidly, and it's 400 00:21:21,481 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 3: actually really exciting to be a part of. I was 401 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 3: actually just talking in my podcast that I recorded before 402 00:21:29,481 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: this one, so my podcast Girlfriend for Hire. I was 403 00:21:33,681 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 3: talking about the fact that I can't think of any 404 00:21:36,041 --> 00:21:40,241 Speaker 3: other industry or any other sector where people are earning 405 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:44,561 Speaker 3: between say two hundred and three hundred k year where 406 00:21:45,201 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 3: women are dominating that sector. Can you think of any 407 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,721 Speaker 3: other I think it's fantastic that in this industry women 408 00:21:53,721 --> 00:21:58,281 Speaker 3: are absolutely killing it, like absolutely killing it, and I 409 00:21:58,321 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 3: think it's fantastic. I think it's great. But yeah, of course, 410 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:05,161 Speaker 3: there's so many things in this industry that could change. 411 00:22:05,281 --> 00:22:07,681 Speaker 3: I do a lot of mentoring for women coming into 412 00:22:07,681 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: the industry. I used to run a Facebook group with 413 00:22:13,321 --> 00:22:19,801 Speaker 3: quite a high profile, Only Fans Check, and we used 414 00:22:19,801 --> 00:22:23,241 Speaker 3: to help green girls coming into the industry. And so 415 00:22:23,321 --> 00:22:28,801 Speaker 3: she was blowing up really big on only Fans and yeah, 416 00:22:28,961 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 3: me and sex work, and so we were just helping 417 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: as many people worldwide as we could just do you 418 00:22:35,281 --> 00:22:36,441 Speaker 3: do only fans? Yeah? 419 00:22:36,441 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, I do, because I've had a few 420 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: escorts who don't like doing only fans. 421 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a hard transition. Yeah, it's hard because you 422 00:22:45,801 --> 00:22:48,561 Speaker 3: can come and see me and say you're with me 423 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: for sixty minutes. I've got one thousand dollars in my 424 00:22:51,281 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: hand for sixty minutes worth of work for me. But 425 00:22:55,241 --> 00:22:58,561 Speaker 3: on only fans, you've got a film content, put it 426 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,361 Speaker 3: out there. You're charging what ten dollars at video, and 427 00:23:02,441 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: you've got to really wait for that sell of everybody 428 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,121 Speaker 3: buying that video to make your money. You don't see 429 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 3: that instant return. And I think that's where the issue 430 00:23:11,961 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: is with women, because they don't see the instant return 431 00:23:15,521 --> 00:23:18,561 Speaker 3: and they're like, fuck, I'm putting hectic content out there. 432 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 3: I'm not seeing this fast return like just seeing somebody 433 00:23:21,921 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 3: for sixty minutes. So it's a really hard There's not 434 00:23:24,521 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 3: many women who can do it well, who can do 435 00:23:26,921 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 3: the crossover of both. It is getting easier for women now. 436 00:23:30,681 --> 00:23:33,921 Speaker 3: I can see that a lot of my escorting friends 437 00:23:34,041 --> 00:23:38,241 Speaker 3: are now getting big and only fans. My only fans 438 00:23:38,281 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: is I've had it for four years. I don't know 439 00:23:41,561 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 3: because it's maybe a secondary income for me. I aren't 440 00:23:45,801 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 3: very serious about it. I don't take it very you know. 441 00:23:49,241 --> 00:23:52,801 Speaker 3: I'm not like only events, only fans own fans. I'm 442 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,401 Speaker 3: one on one person or couples. I love a couple anyway, 443 00:23:57,281 --> 00:24:00,801 Speaker 3: But yeah, I you know, my only fans. I'm top 444 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:04,481 Speaker 3: one point eight percent and have been, and that's only 445 00:24:04,521 --> 00:24:09,561 Speaker 3: solo content. We worked out my producer shut and I 446 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,401 Speaker 3: worked out before that. I'm top fifty in Queensland on 447 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: only fans and that's just doing solo. I probably should, 448 00:24:17,041 --> 00:24:19,361 Speaker 3: I don't know, give it more attention than what I do. 449 00:24:19,481 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, I like the human one on one interaction. 450 00:24:24,241 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: I love that. I love being a companion for people. 451 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 3: I love learning about people and touch and all the 452 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 3: fun things. And only fans I find. So maybe because 453 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,001 Speaker 3: I do solo content, I just really get sick of 454 00:24:37,041 --> 00:24:37,801 Speaker 3: fucking myself. 455 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:44,561 Speaker 1: Fuck it hell, moving along, I'm going. 456 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 3: To do it well, but you do sometimes. 457 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: I haven't really out of look at it yet, but anyway, 458 00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:50,761 Speaker 1: moving along. 459 00:24:50,961 --> 00:24:54,121 Speaker 2: I will say this though, I did find a quote 460 00:24:54,681 --> 00:24:58,041 Speaker 2: about you, because before we get into you your love 461 00:24:58,041 --> 00:25:01,881 Speaker 2: of horses, I actually found out that you quoted by 462 00:25:01,961 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: saying that if you have more chance of winning with 463 00:25:06,761 --> 00:25:09,361 Speaker 2: me and winning on a horse. 464 00:25:12,201 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: So put your money to me instead of putting it 465 00:25:14,201 --> 00:25:14,561 Speaker 1: on a bet. 466 00:25:14,721 --> 00:25:19,641 Speaker 3: Yeah. My line that I really should trademark is I'm 467 00:25:19,681 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: your best bet. I love I love a punt, and 468 00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:23,161 Speaker 3: I think. 469 00:25:25,321 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: Is that you get the client seller races. 470 00:25:27,481 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Look the amount of guys inquiring on my 471 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:35,961 Speaker 3: work phone and they're like, if this horse comes through, 472 00:25:36,041 --> 00:25:38,241 Speaker 3: I'm one hundred percent booking you, and then I never 473 00:25:38,281 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 3: hear from them ever again. So there's a lot of 474 00:25:40,441 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 3: really bad punters out there. I own three racehorses. I 475 00:25:45,761 --> 00:25:49,961 Speaker 3: love a punt. I love casinos. I pretty much travel 476 00:25:50,001 --> 00:25:54,121 Speaker 3: the country constantly. I'm in and out of casinos. I 477 00:25:54,521 --> 00:25:55,321 Speaker 3: go to a casino. 478 00:25:55,681 --> 00:25:57,961 Speaker 1: Do you do you span the place for a client? 479 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 3: Hell no, I'm on the tables. 480 00:26:00,201 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: Oh really Yeah, So you're not looking for clients. 481 00:26:02,681 --> 00:26:04,801 Speaker 3: No, I don't need to look for no, no, no, 482 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: I'm never looking for playing like. It's not it's I 483 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:09,881 Speaker 3: don't it's not something that I need to do. It's 484 00:26:10,001 --> 00:26:13,681 Speaker 3: when I finish. When I finish at like maybe nine 485 00:26:13,801 --> 00:26:16,561 Speaker 3: pm if I'm on tour, that's kind of like my 486 00:26:16,681 --> 00:26:20,721 Speaker 3: last and then I'll get changed, get ready head to 487 00:26:20,761 --> 00:26:26,201 Speaker 3: the casino, grab a drink. I'm on blackjack, baby, and 488 00:26:26,321 --> 00:26:30,961 Speaker 3: so I have learned how to play blackjack just from 489 00:26:31,001 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: sitting by myself at tables and it's taken me about 490 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 3: two years. But now I play with the big boys 491 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,641 Speaker 3: on the big tables, and yeah, I absolutely love it. 492 00:26:40,001 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 3: So I don't know, it's just an ADHD thing I can. 493 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 3: You're probably going to have a lot of people just 494 00:26:45,961 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 3: be like, yes, she's me. I've opened a couple of bars, 495 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,801 Speaker 3: I hear. 496 00:26:53,241 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: On the Gold Coast. 497 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:59,441 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've opened two bars in five years, and I'm 498 00:27:00,241 --> 00:27:03,321 Speaker 3: probably going to take a little spell from hospitality. I 499 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:07,441 Speaker 3: think will continue to drink from a fart. 500 00:27:07,561 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 2: I did hear there was a quote too that you're 501 00:27:10,201 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: like your cocktails too. 502 00:27:11,761 --> 00:27:12,961 Speaker 1: I've seen that in the media too. 503 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: Yes, I can shake a good, shake a good Yeah. 504 00:27:17,721 --> 00:27:23,201 Speaker 3: I love to killer, love mess cal Yeah, love love 505 00:27:23,241 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 3: a drink, love a punt. I'm just your regular Aussie bloke. 506 00:27:29,001 --> 00:27:30,281 Speaker 3: I was about to say that then I was just 507 00:27:30,281 --> 00:27:34,281 Speaker 3: about to say that then ye just with really nice tits. 508 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:37,561 Speaker 2: So before we got like, because I want to talk 509 00:27:37,561 --> 00:27:40,481 Speaker 2: about the horses. Yeah, but I'm going to give you 510 00:27:40,561 --> 00:27:42,321 Speaker 2: a little bit of a this is this is where 511 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:44,561 Speaker 2: it gets fun. Now, I'm going to give you a 512 00:27:44,561 --> 00:27:47,521 Speaker 2: little big because I do this to all girls. 513 00:27:47,201 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 3: In the industry. 514 00:27:48,321 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, a lot of my victims. Only the girls 515 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 2: in the industry. Some some little questions. Okay, I'm going 516 00:27:55,441 --> 00:27:57,201 Speaker 2: to see what you come up with this one. 517 00:27:57,201 --> 00:27:58,721 Speaker 1: So what tends do you want when you have a client? 518 00:28:00,761 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: I think it's the money. 519 00:28:02,921 --> 00:28:07,921 Speaker 3: Their hands there, I've got a thing for hands. 520 00:28:09,681 --> 00:28:11,201 Speaker 1: So someone's hands, hands you want? 521 00:28:11,481 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, in what way? So you've probably got good hands 522 00:28:14,521 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 3: for it. 523 00:28:15,001 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: No, we're not looking at my fucking hands. 524 00:28:18,441 --> 00:28:22,681 Speaker 3: Hands Also if they can make me laugh. I mean, 525 00:28:22,801 --> 00:28:26,041 Speaker 3: these are just things that wait, they don't even have 526 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 3: to be clients. Like, I'm just telling you what like 527 00:28:28,761 --> 00:28:32,561 Speaker 3: it works. I'm me in bookings. I'm not trying to 528 00:28:32,561 --> 00:28:35,641 Speaker 3: be anyone else. I'm authentically one hundred percent me when 529 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,001 Speaker 3: I'm in a booking. So it's it's the same crossover 530 00:28:39,081 --> 00:28:41,681 Speaker 3: for my personal life and for a booking. But I 531 00:28:41,801 --> 00:28:45,241 Speaker 3: like hands. I like people who make me laugh, and 532 00:28:45,881 --> 00:28:47,561 Speaker 3: it helps if you know. 533 00:28:48,921 --> 00:28:50,761 Speaker 2: Your personal life. I'm not going to dub in a chain, 534 00:28:51,441 --> 00:28:54,921 Speaker 2: but have you ever had a partner while working in 535 00:28:54,961 --> 00:28:55,441 Speaker 2: the industry? 536 00:28:55,521 --> 00:28:58,481 Speaker 3: Yeah? Constantly they come and go I get rid of them, 537 00:28:59,121 --> 00:29:00,201 Speaker 3: you get rid of them? Yeah? 538 00:29:00,241 --> 00:29:02,841 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it does it Does it get to the 539 00:29:02,841 --> 00:29:08,321 Speaker 2: point where you rather think, you know what maybe or 540 00:29:08,481 --> 00:29:10,921 Speaker 2: just let this go now because I've got my partner. 541 00:29:10,961 --> 00:29:11,881 Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about that? 542 00:29:12,601 --> 00:29:12,881 Speaker 3: No? 543 00:29:13,681 --> 00:29:15,801 Speaker 1: No, like maybe you want to say, oh, kids or 544 00:29:15,841 --> 00:29:18,521 Speaker 1: something like this, or you're not really for kids. No. 545 00:29:18,841 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: I just imagine being with somebody who told you what 546 00:29:22,241 --> 00:29:22,561 Speaker 3: to do. 547 00:29:22,721 --> 00:29:23,561 Speaker 1: It's not telling me what to do. 548 00:29:23,601 --> 00:29:25,321 Speaker 2: It's the fact if you've now met somebody and you 549 00:29:25,361 --> 00:29:27,081 Speaker 2: want to give yourself to them now. 550 00:29:28,641 --> 00:29:30,801 Speaker 1: Instead of going like you know, it's. 551 00:29:30,641 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: Like you know what me Okay, you know I'm going 552 00:29:33,561 --> 00:29:35,641 Speaker 2: to stop doing what I'm doing because of my kids. 553 00:29:35,761 --> 00:29:36,441 Speaker 1: So I got out. 554 00:29:37,041 --> 00:29:37,561 Speaker 3: Yeah right. 555 00:29:37,921 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: So the thing is, so the thing is, would you 556 00:29:40,561 --> 00:29:43,441 Speaker 2: get out if you met somebody and you really fell 557 00:29:43,481 --> 00:29:45,001 Speaker 2: in love with would you stop. 558 00:29:44,721 --> 00:29:46,281 Speaker 1: Doing what you're doing? Or you're just going to go, well, no, 559 00:29:46,361 --> 00:29:49,361 Speaker 1: he met me like this on, I'm going to carry on. Yeah, okay. 560 00:29:49,961 --> 00:29:53,721 Speaker 3: I can't even like, I can't even comprehend being with somebody. 561 00:29:54,201 --> 00:29:56,761 Speaker 3: I think the type of person. 562 00:29:56,561 --> 00:29:57,321 Speaker 1: You ever be jealous of? 563 00:29:57,361 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: You there mean any jealousy like the factors you know. 564 00:30:02,281 --> 00:30:05,641 Speaker 3: I have had they're emasculated by them that I've got 565 00:30:05,641 --> 00:30:08,921 Speaker 3: coming in. Oh, so they get that because I'm the breadwinner. 566 00:30:09,761 --> 00:30:13,721 Speaker 1: And so never gay. No, really, no, No. 567 00:30:14,241 --> 00:30:18,081 Speaker 3: Everybody that I am, we have dated in my seven years, 568 00:30:18,161 --> 00:30:20,841 Speaker 3: is very open minded, and I wouldn't be with somebody 569 00:30:20,881 --> 00:30:24,041 Speaker 3: like there are a little bit of red flags for me. Say, 570 00:30:24,121 --> 00:30:26,801 Speaker 3: you know, I'm very open with what I do. There's 571 00:30:26,841 --> 00:30:31,361 Speaker 3: no hiding it. So you know, occasionally I'm on Tinder 572 00:30:31,481 --> 00:30:34,681 Speaker 3: or dating apps or I mean somebody out. 573 00:30:34,761 --> 00:30:39,881 Speaker 2: I'd be more thinking, you know, Okay, if you've had say, 574 00:30:40,041 --> 00:30:43,321 Speaker 2: clients that night, you come home to say, somebody and 575 00:30:43,361 --> 00:30:46,881 Speaker 2: then are you sexually getting when you're sexually with that person? 576 00:30:46,961 --> 00:30:50,601 Speaker 2: Are you sexually being with them because it's you or 577 00:30:50,641 --> 00:30:52,521 Speaker 2: you or they feel and that you're treating them like 578 00:30:52,561 --> 00:30:55,041 Speaker 2: a client. That's what I would be getting the shits about. 579 00:30:55,601 --> 00:30:58,841 Speaker 3: No. No. The best way I've been able to describe 580 00:30:58,881 --> 00:31:04,081 Speaker 3: this is sex with a partner is like somebody else 581 00:31:04,161 --> 00:31:10,201 Speaker 3: tickling me. Sex with the client is like I'm tickling myself. Okay, 582 00:31:11,201 --> 00:31:15,881 Speaker 3: there's an element with my partner. There's so much emotion involved. 583 00:31:16,561 --> 00:31:20,641 Speaker 3: I'm very turned on. I love being with them. We 584 00:31:20,721 --> 00:31:24,521 Speaker 3: have intimacy to get on where from the partner. Oh, no, 585 00:31:24,601 --> 00:31:29,761 Speaker 3: I'm very submissive. Really, I am insanely submissive. I'm very submissive, 586 00:31:30,441 --> 00:31:34,081 Speaker 3: And so with a partner, you've got all of that 587 00:31:34,201 --> 00:31:38,721 Speaker 3: really beautiful stuff. With a client, I am it's my job. 588 00:31:38,801 --> 00:31:42,561 Speaker 3: I'm providing a service. So yeah, they are getting aspects 589 00:31:42,601 --> 00:31:45,921 Speaker 3: of me. But I mean it, and I'm very good 590 00:31:45,961 --> 00:31:49,961 Speaker 3: at what I do. But I'm just. 591 00:31:49,921 --> 00:31:52,361 Speaker 1: Asking because I know, I know two people have been 592 00:31:52,361 --> 00:31:53,361 Speaker 1: almost they said they do. 593 00:31:53,601 --> 00:31:57,041 Speaker 3: Oh my lord, if somebody said to me, okay, every 594 00:31:57,081 --> 00:31:59,121 Speaker 3: so often somebody will say, oh, no, I don't want 595 00:31:59,121 --> 00:32:04,681 Speaker 3: to kiss, and I'm like, do I don't have cooties? Yes? Really, 596 00:32:06,601 --> 00:32:13,361 Speaker 3: I know, Well, I'm providing this really beautiful experience for 597 00:32:13,441 --> 00:32:22,961 Speaker 3: somebody that maybe it's not sex focused. Yes, sex sometimes happens, 598 00:32:23,121 --> 00:32:25,841 Speaker 3: but there are quite a lot of times where I'm 599 00:32:25,881 --> 00:32:28,881 Speaker 3: not having any intercourse. I'm not even taking my kid off. 600 00:32:29,961 --> 00:32:32,241 Speaker 3: But there are things that people come to me for 601 00:32:32,361 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 3: and it's touch. It's beautiful. I see a lot of 602 00:32:39,241 --> 00:32:42,601 Speaker 3: people who haven't touched a woman in a really long time. 603 00:32:42,721 --> 00:32:46,241 Speaker 3: They've been single for a very long time, or they've 604 00:32:46,281 --> 00:32:49,121 Speaker 3: just decided that, you know what, I hit ten years 605 00:32:49,161 --> 00:32:51,521 Speaker 3: without being somebody and I decided that I was going 606 00:32:51,561 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 3: to meet someone, and I'm like getting teary. I'm just like, 607 00:32:54,761 --> 00:32:56,521 Speaker 3: oh my god, you picked me out of a massive 608 00:32:56,561 --> 00:32:59,641 Speaker 3: like list, like I thank you. I'm humbled that you 609 00:32:59,841 --> 00:33:01,801 Speaker 3: picked me out of everyone. There's so many of them, 610 00:33:02,481 --> 00:33:08,561 Speaker 3: and I just it's very Yeah, it's very I really 611 00:33:08,681 --> 00:33:16,521 Speaker 3: enjoy No, No, I love it. I love it, and 612 00:33:16,601 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: I love that connection with people, and I love bringing 613 00:33:19,121 --> 00:33:22,561 Speaker 3: people that as well. There's so much of what I 614 00:33:22,641 --> 00:33:26,001 Speaker 3: do on this also so much. I think the misconception 615 00:33:26,321 --> 00:33:30,001 Speaker 3: is that people are just coming and just like plowing 616 00:33:30,081 --> 00:33:32,681 Speaker 3: us through for however long they're with us for, and 617 00:33:32,721 --> 00:33:35,801 Speaker 3: that's not it at all. I find that with the 618 00:33:35,841 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 3: people that I see and look. It may be just 619 00:33:38,561 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 3: because I've set myself up to see these kinds of people, 620 00:33:44,521 --> 00:33:50,361 Speaker 3: but it's all very loving and very authentic, and quite 621 00:33:50,441 --> 00:33:53,361 Speaker 3: often I'm in tears afterwards because it was such an 622 00:33:53,361 --> 00:33:57,441 Speaker 3: emotional release for them. 623 00:33:57,481 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: My next question would be, have you ever felt for 624 00:34:00,681 --> 00:34:03,161 Speaker 2: one of your clients you have? 625 00:34:04,121 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: What happened with that? I don't know, did you get 626 00:34:11,081 --> 00:34:12,121 Speaker 1: did you kind of get scared? 627 00:34:12,161 --> 00:34:15,641 Speaker 3: And I've seen thousands of clients and I've never had 628 00:34:15,681 --> 00:34:20,361 Speaker 3: this happen before I have my You know, I do 629 00:34:20,481 --> 00:34:23,201 Speaker 3: have a bit of a routine, so you know, when 630 00:34:23,201 --> 00:34:25,841 Speaker 3: you arrive, I put you in the shower, we do money, 631 00:34:26,681 --> 00:34:29,281 Speaker 3: we'll chat, We'll you know, I get a vibe of 632 00:34:29,321 --> 00:34:31,721 Speaker 3: who you are, and we'll talk about things and it'll 633 00:34:31,801 --> 00:34:35,321 Speaker 3: just go from there, and then it naturally progresses start kissing. 634 00:34:35,441 --> 00:34:37,841 Speaker 3: This happens la la, and I can kind of you know, 635 00:34:37,881 --> 00:34:40,201 Speaker 3: if they're with me for two or three hours, I 636 00:34:40,201 --> 00:34:43,321 Speaker 3: can kind of map out what's going to happen in 637 00:34:43,361 --> 00:34:47,921 Speaker 3: the timeline of that of our time together with this guy. 638 00:34:48,121 --> 00:34:50,761 Speaker 3: He came in and I don't know what happened. It 639 00:34:50,801 --> 00:34:53,281 Speaker 3: was like I was struck by lightning, and I have 640 00:34:53,441 --> 00:34:56,041 Speaker 3: actually been struck by lightning, so it was kind of 641 00:34:56,081 --> 00:35:00,761 Speaker 3: the same. I went giddy. I didn't do my routine. 642 00:35:00,921 --> 00:35:03,401 Speaker 3: I forgot to put him in the shower. He just 643 00:35:03,481 --> 00:35:06,121 Speaker 3: like was awkwardly in his claw while we just chatted, 644 00:35:06,161 --> 00:35:08,921 Speaker 3: and I couldn't pull it together. I could not pull 645 00:35:08,921 --> 00:35:11,081 Speaker 3: it together. It felt like we were on a first date. 646 00:35:12,841 --> 00:35:21,321 Speaker 3: No it's just yeah, yeah, yeah, no older. And it 647 00:35:21,441 --> 00:35:25,561 Speaker 3: just threw me off and I felt so bad. I felt, 648 00:35:25,761 --> 00:35:29,881 Speaker 3: oh my god, I haven't provided the service that this 649 00:35:29,921 --> 00:35:33,361 Speaker 3: guy thought that he was obviously going to get I 650 00:35:33,401 --> 00:35:36,841 Speaker 3: didn't do I just giggled my weight. I was just 651 00:35:36,921 --> 00:35:40,561 Speaker 3: so embarrassing. I was like, what the fuck have I done? 652 00:35:40,601 --> 00:35:45,681 Speaker 3: And I've never done this before ever. Actually it's the 653 00:35:45,721 --> 00:35:48,081 Speaker 3: first time I've come to realize it's the first time 654 00:35:48,121 --> 00:35:52,921 Speaker 3: that I've actually initiated a move. I only ever in 655 00:35:53,001 --> 00:35:55,921 Speaker 3: my whole life have had guys pull a move on me. 656 00:35:56,001 --> 00:35:59,241 Speaker 3: I would never ever dream of it. And I felt 657 00:35:59,401 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 3: so bad and I just said tim at the end 658 00:36:02,601 --> 00:36:08,481 Speaker 3: of our booking where nothing happened, and nothing happened, no sitting, 659 00:36:08,641 --> 00:36:11,841 Speaker 3: and I I couldn't pull it. I couldn't pull it together. 660 00:36:11,841 --> 00:36:12,921 Speaker 3: I don't know what was wrong with me. 661 00:36:14,121 --> 00:36:14,401 Speaker 1: Happened. 662 00:36:14,761 --> 00:36:17,361 Speaker 3: We were, I mean, we were just talking so deep 663 00:36:17,401 --> 00:36:20,041 Speaker 3: about life and everything, and then time was up and 664 00:36:20,081 --> 00:36:23,841 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, well, I'm sorry about all of that. 665 00:36:23,881 --> 00:36:25,281 Speaker 3: And I was like, do you want to get a 666 00:36:25,361 --> 00:36:26,001 Speaker 3: drink with me? 667 00:36:26,761 --> 00:36:26,841 Speaker 1: Like? 668 00:36:26,881 --> 00:36:29,201 Speaker 3: Do you want to get a drink? And he was 669 00:36:29,241 --> 00:36:32,521 Speaker 3: like oh, like like he's like, I would love to, 670 00:36:32,561 --> 00:36:35,521 Speaker 3: but I mean I can't afford to pay you again. 671 00:36:35,721 --> 00:36:39,201 Speaker 3: And I was like no, no, no, no, no, like like just 672 00:36:39,401 --> 00:36:41,961 Speaker 3: come out with me for a drink and he was like, Okay, 673 00:36:41,961 --> 00:36:42,601 Speaker 3: I'd love to. 674 00:36:44,801 --> 00:36:50,041 Speaker 1: Keep sting. Yeah, a little, don't want to give. 675 00:36:49,961 --> 00:36:57,161 Speaker 3: To Yeah, that's the only time that it's ever ever happened, 676 00:36:57,561 --> 00:37:00,921 Speaker 3: ever happened. But there have been times like there have 677 00:37:00,961 --> 00:37:03,281 Speaker 3: been times, you know, I've I had a client for 678 00:37:03,521 --> 00:37:07,841 Speaker 3: four years and I found out that he was he 679 00:37:08,201 --> 00:37:10,321 Speaker 3: had a ring and was going to propose to me. 680 00:37:10,481 --> 00:37:13,681 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So I've had the other side of that too, 681 00:37:14,001 --> 00:37:20,441 Speaker 3: and that was quite hard to navigate. Yeah, anyway, I said, no, right. 682 00:37:20,641 --> 00:37:25,241 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, worst client, there's got to be one. There's 683 00:37:25,241 --> 00:37:26,481 Speaker 2: got to be a worst client you've had. 684 00:37:26,841 --> 00:37:31,401 Speaker 3: So there are these really awful websites in their forums 685 00:37:32,081 --> 00:37:39,401 Speaker 3: where these keyboard warrior men it's almost like a pissing contest, 686 00:37:39,841 --> 00:37:45,761 Speaker 3: and so it's actually these websites make me feel ill. 687 00:37:46,081 --> 00:37:49,841 Speaker 3: So for them, it's just this big, you know, show 688 00:37:49,881 --> 00:37:55,241 Speaker 3: of oh well, I've hooked up with this one, this one, 689 00:37:55,321 --> 00:37:57,401 Speaker 3: this one, this one, this one, And then they jump 690 00:37:57,481 --> 00:38:03,801 Speaker 3: on these forums and they give a really hectic every 691 00:38:03,841 --> 00:38:07,801 Speaker 3: single thing detail review, and then other guys will jump 692 00:38:07,801 --> 00:38:12,401 Speaker 3: on and comment and they'll pick everything apart, like everything 693 00:38:13,401 --> 00:38:18,881 Speaker 3: I had this time with a guy recently and at 694 00:38:18,921 --> 00:38:22,721 Speaker 3: the end of our time together, I was like, Okay, 695 00:38:22,761 --> 00:38:25,361 Speaker 3: he wasn't my usual type that I get, but he 696 00:38:26,121 --> 00:38:28,801 Speaker 3: seemed like a nice guy and I had a good 697 00:38:28,841 --> 00:38:34,321 Speaker 3: time all gasm's. We had sex a couple of times, 698 00:38:34,441 --> 00:38:37,601 Speaker 3: and we had really good, interesting chats. When he left, 699 00:38:37,641 --> 00:38:39,401 Speaker 3: I even looked into like the things that we were 700 00:38:39,441 --> 00:38:42,321 Speaker 3: talking about. I thought that for me, it was just 701 00:38:42,521 --> 00:38:48,241 Speaker 3: a you know, standard what I provide. He as he left, 702 00:38:48,241 --> 00:38:50,841 Speaker 3: he was like, yeah, I'd definitely love to book you again, 703 00:38:51,121 --> 00:38:53,481 Speaker 3: love to see you again. I was like, okay, that 704 00:38:53,601 --> 00:38:57,281 Speaker 3: was great. Not that I ever have anybody say anything bad. 705 00:38:57,361 --> 00:39:03,481 Speaker 3: I don't ever. And he posted a review on me 706 00:39:03,681 --> 00:39:10,961 Speaker 3: on one of these forums, and it was so inaccurate 707 00:39:11,041 --> 00:39:14,641 Speaker 3: of our time together that it actually made me just go, 708 00:39:15,321 --> 00:39:20,001 Speaker 3: I'm so confused. My brain wants to understand everything. And 709 00:39:20,081 --> 00:39:22,601 Speaker 3: so I know the experience that I had with him, 710 00:39:22,761 --> 00:39:25,041 Speaker 3: and I know how he responded and how he was. 711 00:39:25,441 --> 00:39:27,681 Speaker 3: But then for him to be like, well, I was 712 00:39:27,721 --> 00:39:31,401 Speaker 3: with Karlie Electric and actually, do you know what wasn't 713 00:39:31,401 --> 00:39:34,081 Speaker 3: worth the money? You know, put your money on horses, 714 00:39:34,121 --> 00:39:36,921 Speaker 3: like you'll have better luck. And I was like, this 715 00:39:37,001 --> 00:39:39,721 Speaker 3: isn't the experience that we had, And so it's kind 716 00:39:39,721 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 3: of rocked me a little bit. Yeah, it's just made 717 00:39:42,481 --> 00:39:45,321 Speaker 3: me realize that there are people out there who, you know, 718 00:39:45,481 --> 00:39:47,961 Speaker 3: I'm being authentic and genuine and trying to give that 719 00:39:48,081 --> 00:39:51,921 Speaker 3: experience to somebody. And you know, I am giving such 720 00:39:51,961 --> 00:39:53,801 Speaker 3: a large part of myself and I try and do 721 00:39:53,841 --> 00:39:56,921 Speaker 3: it the best of my ability every single time. And 722 00:39:57,681 --> 00:40:01,641 Speaker 3: you know, to read just such a nasty thing, like 723 00:40:01,681 --> 00:40:03,401 Speaker 3: it was telling me to go to the gym, like, 724 00:40:03,521 --> 00:40:08,401 Speaker 3: oh a c word, Oh you book me because I'm curvy. 725 00:40:08,481 --> 00:40:10,961 Speaker 3: It literally says in my profile that I'm curvy, I've 726 00:40:11,001 --> 00:40:15,321 Speaker 3: got an E cup, Like I'm not skinny. I'm like, 727 00:40:16,481 --> 00:40:19,881 Speaker 3: but yeah, it was. It was pretty scathing. But yeah, 728 00:40:19,921 --> 00:40:22,201 Speaker 3: and so these websites are just awful and they're just 729 00:40:22,361 --> 00:40:25,161 Speaker 3: out there taking down women because it makes them feel 730 00:40:25,161 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 3: better about themselves. It's definitely a certain type of male. 731 00:40:31,481 --> 00:40:33,401 Speaker 1: The mind plays games to make you look. 732 00:40:33,201 --> 00:40:37,361 Speaker 3: Like you should never look anyway. Yeah, some awful people 733 00:40:37,361 --> 00:40:39,641 Speaker 3: out there. So I've just put it out on Twitter. 734 00:40:39,841 --> 00:40:43,761 Speaker 3: Don't if you're if you are on these websites, do 735 00:40:43,921 --> 00:40:46,041 Speaker 3: not book me. I don't want to see you, don't 736 00:40:46,081 --> 00:40:48,681 Speaker 3: want your money. I work so hard at trying to 737 00:40:48,761 --> 00:40:53,921 Speaker 3: only see the best kind of people. And he definitely 738 00:40:53,961 --> 00:40:56,521 Speaker 3: when he turned up, I was like, oh, you're a slob, 739 00:40:56,841 --> 00:41:03,641 Speaker 3: like You're not who I usually usually see. Yeah, anyway, 740 00:41:03,721 --> 00:41:04,841 Speaker 3: that was the red flag. 741 00:41:05,561 --> 00:41:11,361 Speaker 2: We this farantasies from people or me, let's call you first. 742 00:41:11,761 --> 00:41:16,521 Speaker 3: You So, okay, we've touched on hands. My dms on 743 00:41:16,681 --> 00:41:19,201 Speaker 3: Instagram are full of guys sending me hand picks and 744 00:41:19,201 --> 00:41:22,841 Speaker 3: I would much prefer that over unsolicited pics. So thank 745 00:41:22,881 --> 00:41:32,881 Speaker 3: you man. Okay, So I do love I'm into Oh god, 746 00:41:33,801 --> 00:41:38,121 Speaker 3: why do I say these things out in public? I 747 00:41:38,281 --> 00:41:42,721 Speaker 3: like the idea of cock and also I'm into like 748 00:41:42,801 --> 00:41:46,001 Speaker 3: Stagg and Vixen And do you know what any of 749 00:41:46,041 --> 00:41:47,121 Speaker 3: these things are you looking for? 750 00:41:48,961 --> 00:41:49,721 Speaker 1: Canlish? 751 00:41:51,201 --> 00:41:55,001 Speaker 3: You would have no idea what a cock is? Okay, 752 00:41:55,081 --> 00:42:02,841 Speaker 3: So a cock is a subservient male. It's usually quite 753 00:42:02,881 --> 00:42:06,241 Speaker 3: a degrading thing. They think that they're a piece of shit. 754 00:42:06,561 --> 00:42:10,081 Speaker 3: And do you know how every hotel room has a cocktair, 755 00:42:11,441 --> 00:42:14,361 Speaker 3: like in every Yeah, in every hotel room there's a 756 00:42:14,401 --> 00:42:17,441 Speaker 3: bed and then there's always just like one armchair. Oh anyway, 757 00:42:17,481 --> 00:42:18,681 Speaker 3: that's what we call the culture. 758 00:42:19,281 --> 00:42:20,121 Speaker 1: Ah. 759 00:42:20,161 --> 00:42:25,561 Speaker 3: So the man will book me and he will sit 760 00:42:25,721 --> 00:42:29,001 Speaker 3: in the cupture. He will not touch me. He doesn't 761 00:42:29,041 --> 00:42:31,961 Speaker 3: think that he's worthy to even be in my presence, 762 00:42:33,121 --> 00:42:35,801 Speaker 3: and so he wants to see me have sex with 763 00:42:36,841 --> 00:42:41,081 Speaker 3: somebody like a stag or a bull, and they are 764 00:42:41,241 --> 00:42:44,401 Speaker 3: more the dominating type. They're somebody that he'll never be. 765 00:42:44,841 --> 00:42:48,801 Speaker 3: They're told they're fit, they've got muscles, they're confident, they're 766 00:42:49,121 --> 00:42:51,241 Speaker 3: all of the things. He just thinks that he is 767 00:42:51,641 --> 00:42:56,921 Speaker 3: a piece of shit, Like it's actually the self deprecation 768 00:42:57,121 --> 00:42:59,761 Speaker 3: of these guys is insane. It's actually really full on. 769 00:42:59,961 --> 00:43:04,841 Speaker 3: And so they will then just sadly beat their meat 770 00:43:05,681 --> 00:43:08,201 Speaker 3: over watching you while watching knowing that they can never 771 00:43:08,401 --> 00:43:14,241 Speaker 3: have me, and that is sexual gratification for them. I 772 00:43:14,281 --> 00:43:24,801 Speaker 3: think I enjoyed doing it because I enjoy it mainly 773 00:43:24,881 --> 00:43:29,561 Speaker 3: just for the voyeuristic having somebody watch me be with 774 00:43:29,761 --> 00:43:35,601 Speaker 3: somebody who is dominant, and that brings me something. I'm 775 00:43:35,641 --> 00:43:40,641 Speaker 3: into that. Yeah, that's probably the weirdest one. 776 00:43:45,721 --> 00:43:48,281 Speaker 1: Anyway, what's the weirdest one? 777 00:43:48,321 --> 00:43:52,121 Speaker 3: If someone's asked you, I wanted to put me to sleep, 778 00:43:52,961 --> 00:43:55,641 Speaker 3: but film me for an hour, so put you. 779 00:43:55,521 --> 00:43:59,361 Speaker 2: Asleep, not do anything to you. 780 00:43:59,361 --> 00:44:01,721 Speaker 3: See how are you? But he wanted to record it, 781 00:44:01,761 --> 00:44:04,721 Speaker 3: and I just said, but this see I was so green. 782 00:44:05,161 --> 00:44:07,441 Speaker 2: He wants to do it like he's drugged you, like 783 00:44:07,481 --> 00:44:09,641 Speaker 2: in account of a movie, and just take advantage of you. 784 00:44:09,881 --> 00:44:13,521 Speaker 3: It's actually so porn Hub have just pulled all sleeping 785 00:44:13,601 --> 00:44:16,601 Speaker 3: videos from their platform, so you can no longer watch 786 00:44:16,801 --> 00:44:24,201 Speaker 3: sleeping porn because sleeping porn is essentially someone is unconscious. 787 00:44:25,201 --> 00:44:29,521 Speaker 3: It's a rape fantasy. So I when I started getting 788 00:44:30,201 --> 00:44:32,241 Speaker 3: when I got this request through, I think i'd only 789 00:44:32,281 --> 00:44:34,961 Speaker 3: been in the industry for three or four weeks, and 790 00:44:35,001 --> 00:44:36,961 Speaker 3: at that stage, I didn't have any clear boundaries, and 791 00:44:36,961 --> 00:44:38,961 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, could I do this? Could I? Oh, 792 00:44:39,001 --> 00:44:40,441 Speaker 3: I'm just asleep and he wants to give me a 793 00:44:40,481 --> 00:44:43,801 Speaker 3: thousand dollars Like that's so much money. Oh my god, Okay, 794 00:44:43,921 --> 00:44:45,561 Speaker 3: maybe I could do this. And when I toyed with 795 00:44:45,601 --> 00:44:48,161 Speaker 3: the idea and then I realized that it's a rape fantasy. 796 00:44:48,441 --> 00:44:51,921 Speaker 3: I'm not in control. I don't know what's going on. Yeah, 797 00:44:52,441 --> 00:44:56,521 Speaker 3: the other thing. So that's probably the scariest that I've 798 00:44:56,521 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 3: had the things that I find weird, because I feel 799 00:44:59,521 --> 00:45:01,161 Speaker 3: like I've been in this industry for so long that 800 00:45:01,201 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 3: I don't find things weird anymore. I'm so desensitized. I 801 00:45:04,521 --> 00:45:07,481 Speaker 3: anticipate that somebody is going to ask me to fist them, 802 00:45:07,801 --> 00:45:09,121 Speaker 3: or somebody is going to. 803 00:45:09,481 --> 00:45:12,441 Speaker 1: Have you done that. Yet, what is everyone wants to 804 00:45:12,481 --> 00:45:15,241 Speaker 1: fish them? You are the third person to bring this up. 805 00:45:16,401 --> 00:45:19,441 Speaker 3: I brought it up because I know that it's. 806 00:45:19,801 --> 00:45:25,801 Speaker 2: Everyone who comes to my shelf says they. 807 00:45:23,561 --> 00:45:29,561 Speaker 3: Okay, anyway, I you know, would you no? I anticipate no. 808 00:45:29,721 --> 00:45:34,201 Speaker 3: These little daggers can do some damage anyway. I've made 809 00:45:34,201 --> 00:45:40,761 Speaker 3: a guy bleed. I I find normal everyday things as 810 00:45:40,801 --> 00:45:45,841 Speaker 3: a sexual request. That's what freaks me out. So you 811 00:45:45,881 --> 00:45:49,201 Speaker 3: anticipate that people are gonna have weird sexual fantasies, like 812 00:45:49,721 --> 00:45:52,841 Speaker 3: you know, they're into fucking whatever, like they want to 813 00:45:52,881 --> 00:45:56,721 Speaker 3: be I don't know, chained to something and wit like 814 00:45:56,801 --> 00:46:00,401 Speaker 3: you anticipate that this is what it's like. It's when 815 00:46:00,481 --> 00:46:05,241 Speaker 3: people say I get turned on by watching you hate 816 00:46:05,241 --> 00:46:10,041 Speaker 3: your nails. I'm like, what how did you get to 817 00:46:10,081 --> 00:46:12,041 Speaker 3: that point? Like? I can understand being chained up and 818 00:46:12,041 --> 00:46:15,441 Speaker 3: whipped like that's that kind of makes sense to me. 819 00:46:15,561 --> 00:46:20,881 Speaker 3: But the mundane, every everyday stuff I find weird. I 820 00:46:20,881 --> 00:46:24,561 Speaker 3: am getting quite a few requests. I get requests for 821 00:46:24,681 --> 00:46:30,201 Speaker 3: people wanting to watch me cook food, just normal. Yeah, 822 00:46:30,241 --> 00:46:35,041 Speaker 3: they make it yeah, or yes, it's non sexual, so 823 00:46:35,361 --> 00:46:40,681 Speaker 3: they want to watch me bake cupcakes for them. For me, 824 00:46:40,761 --> 00:46:44,841 Speaker 3: it's non sexual. For them, it's a sexual gratification. They 825 00:46:44,961 --> 00:46:48,001 Speaker 3: have tied some kind of like mummy issue or something 826 00:46:48,041 --> 00:46:53,001 Speaker 3: that something from their childhood to us it being sexual. 827 00:46:54,361 --> 00:46:57,321 Speaker 3: So there's that. I mean, I can understand. It's quite 828 00:46:57,401 --> 00:47:01,241 Speaker 3: like my good girl. You know, I didn't receive that 829 00:47:01,361 --> 00:47:04,321 Speaker 3: as a child, and so now me being told that 830 00:47:04,321 --> 00:47:12,121 Speaker 3: I'm a good girl is sexually for me gratifying. I've 831 00:47:12,121 --> 00:47:16,361 Speaker 3: been getting a lot lately on my phone guys offering 832 00:47:16,681 --> 00:47:20,281 Speaker 3: to impregnate me. I had a guy recently offered me 833 00:47:20,321 --> 00:47:24,081 Speaker 3: forty thousand dollars to impregnate me, and I was like, 834 00:47:24,161 --> 00:47:26,921 Speaker 3: is this per month or just like a one off? 835 00:47:27,001 --> 00:47:28,361 Speaker 3: What am I doing? 836 00:47:28,521 --> 00:47:31,361 Speaker 1: What the I'm just asking if he said forty thousand, 837 00:47:31,561 --> 00:47:32,041 Speaker 1: what would you do? 838 00:47:32,401 --> 00:47:34,841 Speaker 3: What he would need to be forty million? 839 00:47:36,881 --> 00:47:38,441 Speaker 1: I'm just asking. I don't know. 840 00:47:38,841 --> 00:47:40,601 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I know, No, what? 841 00:47:40,801 --> 00:47:46,281 Speaker 2: No, just take them on after pillay is not enough 842 00:47:46,561 --> 00:47:48,641 Speaker 2: in this day and age raising a child. 843 00:47:48,681 --> 00:47:51,921 Speaker 3: Can you imagine trying to raise no? Anyway? And then 844 00:47:51,961 --> 00:47:56,001 Speaker 3: I got another one last night. He's just like, can 845 00:47:56,041 --> 00:47:56,881 Speaker 3: I actually read it out? 846 00:47:57,561 --> 00:47:58,361 Speaker 1: Yere, you go for it. 847 00:47:58,401 --> 00:48:07,921 Speaker 3: Okay, this is like okay, this is actually are you 848 00:48:07,961 --> 00:48:09,961 Speaker 3: willing to be in a long term relationship with me? 849 00:48:10,081 --> 00:48:12,641 Speaker 3: So this guy had sent me four messages prior to this. 850 00:48:13,761 --> 00:48:15,801 Speaker 3: Are you willing to be in a long term relationship 851 00:48:15,841 --> 00:48:17,841 Speaker 3: with me? And are you willing to let me impregnate 852 00:48:17,881 --> 00:48:20,801 Speaker 3: you and have kids together? If you say yes and 853 00:48:20,841 --> 00:48:22,921 Speaker 3: agree to these terms, then we can move forward. 854 00:48:23,961 --> 00:48:27,601 Speaker 1: Really never mess him. 855 00:48:27,961 --> 00:48:30,321 Speaker 3: No. I don't even know his name. He'd sent me 856 00:48:30,401 --> 00:48:34,081 Speaker 3: four text messages and I just replied, no, thank you. 857 00:48:34,921 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 3: I don't ah, man, You're an interesting bunch. 858 00:48:42,761 --> 00:48:45,841 Speaker 1: One anyway, longest succession. 859 00:48:48,601 --> 00:48:51,081 Speaker 3: I think that this is probably one of the most 860 00:48:51,121 --> 00:48:53,761 Speaker 3: confronting things for people to learn. I can do a 861 00:48:53,801 --> 00:48:57,441 Speaker 3: whole tour. So I'm about tomorrow, I fly to Melbourne 862 00:48:57,561 --> 00:49:00,881 Speaker 3: and I am in Melbourne for a week. There's been 863 00:49:00,881 --> 00:49:03,121 Speaker 3: a time in Melbourne where I did a full tour. 864 00:49:03,161 --> 00:49:05,921 Speaker 3: I think I was there for four nights, and when 865 00:49:05,921 --> 00:49:08,681 Speaker 3: I left, I worked out on the plane that I'd 866 00:49:08,681 --> 00:49:10,801 Speaker 3: only had maybe three minutes worth of sex. 867 00:49:10,921 --> 00:49:13,881 Speaker 1: Total, three minutes worth of sex. What were you doing 868 00:49:13,881 --> 00:49:16,241 Speaker 1: for the rest of it? Don't tell me, you're just talking. 869 00:49:16,641 --> 00:49:19,761 Speaker 3: First of all, everybody laughs at my jokes. Okay, I'm 870 00:49:19,801 --> 00:49:22,681 Speaker 3: a very funny person. Yeah. 871 00:49:23,041 --> 00:49:24,681 Speaker 1: We three minutes of sex. 872 00:49:26,481 --> 00:49:30,641 Speaker 3: Yeah total, So that was spread across numerous. 873 00:49:31,521 --> 00:49:34,681 Speaker 1: What are your clients doing? Like, did not see what's 874 00:49:34,721 --> 00:49:36,121 Speaker 1: in front of them? Just got I just want to. 875 00:49:36,121 --> 00:49:40,241 Speaker 3: Talk maybe because I am seeing a lot of men 876 00:49:40,361 --> 00:49:44,641 Speaker 3: who are quite lonely. They're just not sex fit. 877 00:49:45,241 --> 00:49:48,041 Speaker 1: So I think maybe you need to change your professional. 878 00:49:50,001 --> 00:49:53,121 Speaker 3: I feel like a dick therapist. But I'll look, it's 879 00:49:53,361 --> 00:50:04,761 Speaker 3: really quite normal for two pumps and done. It's yeah, okay, yes, yes, no, 880 00:50:05,081 --> 00:50:06,921 Speaker 3: they can't even get it up. That's that's a whole 881 00:50:06,961 --> 00:50:12,201 Speaker 3: different that's a whole different story. Yeah. So yeah, it's 882 00:50:12,201 --> 00:50:14,561 Speaker 3: it's very it's very quick. So I'm not having a 883 00:50:14,601 --> 00:50:18,921 Speaker 3: lot of sex. There is actually one guy, one client 884 00:50:18,961 --> 00:50:22,681 Speaker 3: that I have now who I adore. He's absolutely fantastic 885 00:50:22,801 --> 00:50:28,721 Speaker 3: and we actually have longer sex sessions and he's really 886 00:50:28,801 --> 00:50:31,841 Speaker 3: quite proud of himself that he lasts longer than two pumps. 887 00:50:31,881 --> 00:50:35,321 Speaker 3: But he's like one out of I just don't have it. 888 00:50:35,441 --> 00:50:36,561 Speaker 3: I just don't, do you know. 889 00:50:36,601 --> 00:50:38,641 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, then, what's the longest 890 00:50:38,641 --> 00:50:39,681 Speaker 1: you've ever gone about sex? 891 00:50:41,601 --> 00:50:43,241 Speaker 3: I'd say two weeks? 892 00:50:44,081 --> 00:50:44,321 Speaker 1: Fuck? 893 00:50:44,361 --> 00:50:47,161 Speaker 3: I know, is that long? Is that not long? I 894 00:50:47,161 --> 00:50:50,401 Speaker 3: don't even know what. I'm so desynthetized that I don't 895 00:50:50,441 --> 00:50:56,041 Speaker 3: even I don't even know anymore. If that's longer, I don't. 896 00:50:55,841 --> 00:50:59,881 Speaker 1: Think that's really long, right, favorite. 897 00:50:59,521 --> 00:51:02,801 Speaker 3: Position the one where I don't have to do very much? No, 898 00:51:05,321 --> 00:51:10,601 Speaker 3: so s Yeah, this is all dependent on who I'm 899 00:51:10,641 --> 00:51:14,721 Speaker 3: with because everybody's dicks. Everybody is different. 900 00:51:14,841 --> 00:51:20,001 Speaker 1: Everybody everybody's dick or everyone's but everyone's different. Which what 901 00:51:20,041 --> 00:51:20,801 Speaker 1: do we go for it? 902 00:51:21,601 --> 00:51:26,721 Speaker 3: Every one is different and everyone's dicks are completely different. 903 00:51:26,841 --> 00:51:30,401 Speaker 3: So I may love this position with this person, but 904 00:51:30,641 --> 00:51:32,281 Speaker 3: if I try and do it with this person, it's 905 00:51:32,321 --> 00:51:35,921 Speaker 3: not going to happen. So it's really all dependent. Well, 906 00:51:35,921 --> 00:51:40,081 Speaker 3: because they can't nail the move, or their dick isn't 907 00:51:40,081 --> 00:51:46,041 Speaker 3: big enough for yeah, So if their dick is like 908 00:51:46,161 --> 00:51:48,641 Speaker 3: a ten out of ten perfect, well, then it's me 909 00:51:48,961 --> 00:51:50,361 Speaker 3: on my stomach with my button there. 910 00:51:51,401 --> 00:51:52,921 Speaker 1: Okay, what is that called? 911 00:51:56,161 --> 00:51:59,521 Speaker 3: Everest? I don't even know. Let's call it the everest everest? 912 00:52:02,481 --> 00:52:05,801 Speaker 3: Can I tell you a really fun fact? The average 913 00:52:05,881 --> 00:52:11,041 Speaker 3: penis size is so different to what people think it is. 914 00:52:12,161 --> 00:52:16,401 Speaker 3: Guys think that the average dick size is so much 915 00:52:16,441 --> 00:52:21,281 Speaker 3: bigger than what it actually is. So I have condom 916 00:52:21,401 --> 00:52:26,081 Speaker 3: sizes for everyone, right, I go through the most of 917 00:52:26,161 --> 00:52:30,961 Speaker 3: the small size condoms. The average penis size is so 918 00:52:31,041 --> 00:52:34,161 Speaker 3: much smaller than what people think. Guys are like, oh, 919 00:52:34,201 --> 00:52:38,761 Speaker 3: I've just got an average sized dick, and I'm like, no, 920 00:52:39,361 --> 00:52:42,561 Speaker 3: you are classed as extra large, and they have no 921 00:52:42,641 --> 00:52:46,241 Speaker 3: idea what's you and far what's large to you? Large 922 00:52:46,361 --> 00:52:51,361 Speaker 3: is large to me is seven but that but also 923 00:52:52,681 --> 00:52:55,281 Speaker 3: see a large condom will go on maybe a five 924 00:52:55,321 --> 00:53:01,961 Speaker 3: to six inch anything four inch would be regular size condom, 925 00:53:02,121 --> 00:53:05,201 Speaker 3: and then anything under that is a small condom. And 926 00:53:05,241 --> 00:53:09,081 Speaker 3: so I'm primarily going through that. I'd say the average 927 00:53:09,121 --> 00:53:12,201 Speaker 3: penis size is like three and a half. 928 00:53:11,921 --> 00:53:15,121 Speaker 1: To average average sizes. 929 00:53:15,201 --> 00:53:23,881 Speaker 3: Three inches to four And they do love me, they 930 00:53:23,881 --> 00:53:27,081 Speaker 3: do love me, but yeah, it's actually no white guys 931 00:53:27,081 --> 00:53:29,801 Speaker 3: like it's it's that's the average. 932 00:53:29,401 --> 00:53:30,681 Speaker 1: That's the average. 933 00:53:32,041 --> 00:53:36,321 Speaker 3: Yeah, you struggle to get well, I mean it's not 934 00:53:36,561 --> 00:53:39,361 Speaker 3: I know, it's not me, it is. I have a 935 00:53:39,361 --> 00:53:42,601 Speaker 3: lot of men with ED come and see me because 936 00:53:42,641 --> 00:53:46,881 Speaker 3: I give them a safe space to explore the ed. 937 00:53:48,081 --> 00:53:51,041 Speaker 3: The thing with ED is and the thing that guys 938 00:53:51,161 --> 00:53:54,241 Speaker 3: find crippling, and it can be really crippling for some guys, 939 00:53:54,241 --> 00:53:57,041 Speaker 3: like they'll never date again. They're just like, I can't date, 940 00:53:57,761 --> 00:54:00,481 Speaker 3: my dick won't work. I'll never be with anybody ever again. 941 00:54:00,681 --> 00:54:02,921 Speaker 3: So then they don't try and have relationships, and it's 942 00:54:02,961 --> 00:54:06,361 Speaker 3: actually really full on. They come and see me because 943 00:54:06,361 --> 00:54:07,761 Speaker 3: I give them a safe space where I'm not going 944 00:54:07,761 --> 00:54:09,521 Speaker 3: to judge them. I'm not going to be there beating 945 00:54:09,521 --> 00:54:11,561 Speaker 3: their meat, trying to get it hard and be disappointed 946 00:54:11,721 --> 00:54:14,801 Speaker 3: or anything like that. I teach them what the new 947 00:54:14,841 --> 00:54:19,081 Speaker 3: normal looks like. I teach them about intimacy and touch 948 00:54:19,361 --> 00:54:24,681 Speaker 3: and all of those really beautiful things and pleasure without 949 00:54:24,801 --> 00:54:27,721 Speaker 3: needing to have a hard dick. And so I spend 950 00:54:27,761 --> 00:54:30,841 Speaker 3: a lot of time with people working on that kind 951 00:54:30,881 --> 00:54:34,681 Speaker 3: of thing and getting them comfortable with their new normal. So, yeah, 952 00:54:34,721 --> 00:54:36,281 Speaker 3: I have I do have a lot of that. 953 00:54:36,441 --> 00:54:39,281 Speaker 2: Yeah, I noticed this is when I want out on 954 00:54:39,321 --> 00:54:40,361 Speaker 2: your site and I checked. 955 00:54:40,161 --> 00:54:42,841 Speaker 1: Out right, Oh God, don't get me wrong. 956 00:54:42,841 --> 00:54:44,481 Speaker 2: When I asked you this, right because I looked at 957 00:54:44,521 --> 00:54:48,001 Speaker 2: the prices, okay, okay, checked out, and I took some 958 00:54:48,041 --> 00:54:51,801 Speaker 2: of the contents to use to promote our episode. I 959 00:54:51,961 --> 00:54:55,001 Speaker 2: just want to know what I would get if I 960 00:54:55,121 --> 00:54:59,121 Speaker 2: was a clientele now, and I'm paying two five hundred 961 00:54:59,401 --> 00:55:00,881 Speaker 2: for erase they experience. 962 00:55:01,761 --> 00:55:04,121 Speaker 1: What am I getting for that? So here's the jockey 963 00:55:04,161 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: in this look. 964 00:55:06,601 --> 00:55:10,041 Speaker 3: I've had a couple of jockeys in my I find 965 00:55:10,081 --> 00:55:13,041 Speaker 3: it really ironic just riding a jockey. I find it 966 00:55:13,081 --> 00:55:13,681 Speaker 3: so ironic. 967 00:55:14,401 --> 00:55:17,721 Speaker 1: Fuck, I'm going to use I'm going to use that promote. 968 00:55:20,401 --> 00:55:22,801 Speaker 3: Can you see why I was given a podcast? They 969 00:55:22,801 --> 00:55:27,321 Speaker 3: were like, just let her talk, okay. So because the 970 00:55:27,481 --> 00:55:31,001 Speaker 3: thing that I think guys find so appealing about me 971 00:55:31,601 --> 00:55:35,761 Speaker 3: is not only just like the tits and the sexy side. 972 00:55:35,801 --> 00:55:38,401 Speaker 3: It's the fact that they can actually talk to me 973 00:55:38,441 --> 00:55:41,721 Speaker 3: about something. And I think a lot of guys are like, 974 00:55:42,321 --> 00:55:44,401 Speaker 3: I'm going to get an escort, What the hell do 975 00:55:44,481 --> 00:55:46,281 Speaker 3: I talk to her about? Like we're gonna have nothing 976 00:55:46,321 --> 00:55:49,001 Speaker 3: in common. I don't even know her. But when they 977 00:55:49,001 --> 00:55:52,161 Speaker 3: say that I love punting and I've got horses and 978 00:55:52,201 --> 00:55:54,641 Speaker 3: I even used to have my own punting group, like 979 00:55:54,721 --> 00:55:58,121 Speaker 3: I do horse tips. And when they kind of learned that, 980 00:55:58,161 --> 00:56:01,321 Speaker 3: they're like, oh, hell yeah, I would love to go 981 00:56:01,481 --> 00:56:03,681 Speaker 3: to the races with a hot bird on my arm. 982 00:56:03,881 --> 00:56:06,681 Speaker 3: We punt all day, we drink, we have a great time. 983 00:56:07,321 --> 00:56:10,121 Speaker 3: And I mean, that's what I love doing going. I'll 984 00:56:10,161 --> 00:56:12,961 Speaker 3: go to race tracks all around the country. I sometimes 985 00:56:12,961 --> 00:56:17,201 Speaker 3: sent to my tours around the race days, so Spring Racing, Carnival. 986 00:56:17,241 --> 00:56:20,921 Speaker 3: I've already got all my dates up and I'm Melbourne. 987 00:56:20,961 --> 00:56:24,761 Speaker 3: I'm nearly fully booked in November. So I go to 988 00:56:24,841 --> 00:56:28,641 Speaker 3: all the race days and you know, guys just find 989 00:56:28,681 --> 00:56:30,001 Speaker 3: it exciting and it's. 990 00:56:29,881 --> 00:56:32,121 Speaker 1: Just actually go down like a date. Is it like that? 991 00:56:32,241 --> 00:56:36,041 Speaker 3: Like, well, there's different levels to it, and it's for 992 00:56:36,121 --> 00:56:39,321 Speaker 3: what they're comfortable with. If they just want to hang 993 00:56:39,361 --> 00:56:40,881 Speaker 3: out with me, which a lot of them do, and 994 00:56:40,881 --> 00:56:42,761 Speaker 3: they just want to have the fun banter and we're 995 00:56:42,801 --> 00:56:46,401 Speaker 3: putting bets on and screaming at horses, they can do that. 996 00:56:47,001 --> 00:56:49,761 Speaker 3: But there is the next level where there can be 997 00:56:49,841 --> 00:56:52,281 Speaker 3: we can be kissing and holding hands and there can 998 00:56:52,321 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 3: be intimacy at the track and you know, but we're 999 00:56:55,481 --> 00:56:59,201 Speaker 3: still doing all the fun things. And then there is 1000 00:56:59,241 --> 00:57:02,281 Speaker 3: the next level where we can do that at the races. 1001 00:57:02,321 --> 00:57:04,801 Speaker 3: But then I'll also go home with you. Oh okay, 1002 00:57:05,241 --> 00:57:06,401 Speaker 3: So yeah, is. 1003 00:57:06,401 --> 00:57:10,321 Speaker 2: That the ten thousand dollars one for the weekend because 1004 00:57:10,321 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 2: I don't notice that one too. 1005 00:57:11,681 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 3: Yes, No, I don't think anybody's silly enough to part 1006 00:57:15,481 --> 00:57:17,641 Speaker 3: with ten grand to spend with somebody that they might 1007 00:57:17,681 --> 00:57:19,921 Speaker 3: potentially find annoying after twenty four hours. 1008 00:57:23,361 --> 00:57:25,881 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. So let's go onto 1009 00:57:25,921 --> 00:57:28,001 Speaker 1: the horse racing. Now we've had We'll go onto this 1010 00:57:28,121 --> 00:57:30,721 Speaker 1: is probably you know what, I've got a question for you. 1011 00:57:31,321 --> 00:57:33,441 Speaker 2: And I wrote this down after going through everything that 1012 00:57:33,481 --> 00:57:35,801 Speaker 2: I I've seen on you, and I've done my research 1013 00:57:35,841 --> 00:57:36,201 Speaker 2: on you. 1014 00:57:37,121 --> 00:57:41,281 Speaker 1: I actually reckon that a horse tends you one more 1015 00:57:41,321 --> 00:57:48,961 Speaker 1: than a man. No, so because your look. 1016 00:57:48,841 --> 00:57:52,961 Speaker 3: For horses is very no, don't okay. Do you know 1017 00:57:53,041 --> 00:57:56,361 Speaker 3: how like there's a thing about like crazy horse horse girls. 1018 00:57:56,761 --> 00:57:59,801 Speaker 3: You know how horse girls are a bit yea weird. Anyway, 1019 00:58:00,921 --> 00:58:05,721 Speaker 3: I'm a horse racing girl. There's a difference, a difference. 1020 00:58:06,601 --> 00:58:09,521 Speaker 3: I'm about the and this is back to my area. Actually, 1021 00:58:09,561 --> 00:58:11,841 Speaker 3: it's just the adrenaline of being at the track, your 1022 00:58:11,841 --> 00:58:16,281 Speaker 3: horses racing. You're screaming at it. It wins or comes last, 1023 00:58:16,281 --> 00:58:19,841 Speaker 3: who knows. And it's that for me is the thrill 1024 00:58:19,921 --> 00:58:25,001 Speaker 3: that I absolutely love. It's that adrenaline rush. People say 1025 00:58:25,041 --> 00:58:27,681 Speaker 3: to me. I had I do Q and A on 1026 00:58:27,801 --> 00:58:30,961 Speaker 3: my Instagram often and somebody was like, well, what do 1027 00:58:31,001 --> 00:58:36,521 Speaker 3: you prefer sex work or the horse racing. And I'm like, well, 1028 00:58:36,561 --> 00:58:39,521 Speaker 3: you can't compare. Sex work is my work, that's my job, 1029 00:58:39,641 --> 00:58:43,441 Speaker 3: but the horse racing is my passion. It's what I 1030 00:58:43,481 --> 00:58:46,521 Speaker 3: will always own horses and I will always be screaming 1031 00:58:46,601 --> 00:58:48,321 Speaker 3: at the track and you know. 1032 00:58:48,401 --> 00:58:52,121 Speaker 2: Losing my I remember, I remember when we first connected them. 1033 00:58:52,561 --> 00:58:54,961 Speaker 2: I said once to get you on my podcast and 1034 00:58:55,001 --> 00:58:57,721 Speaker 2: then I remember asking you, said can you can you 1035 00:58:57,761 --> 00:58:58,681 Speaker 2: come into the podcasts? 1036 00:58:59,401 --> 00:59:01,241 Speaker 1: No, I've got to go down to seeing my horses. 1037 00:59:01,281 --> 00:59:03,881 Speaker 1: And I'm going what I've got to go for horses? 1038 00:59:04,801 --> 00:59:06,841 Speaker 1: And I looked you up and then I've seen it. 1039 00:59:06,841 --> 00:59:08,281 Speaker 1: So what got you into horses? 1040 00:59:09,801 --> 00:59:13,241 Speaker 3: Oh god? It was definitely the gambling side of things first. 1041 00:59:13,921 --> 00:59:17,521 Speaker 3: So I like to do everything in a really weird order, supposedly. 1042 00:59:17,761 --> 00:59:21,601 Speaker 3: And I think the spark was just growing up in 1043 00:59:21,641 --> 00:59:25,041 Speaker 3: Melbourne where Melbourne Cup is so big, and I went 1044 00:59:25,081 --> 00:59:29,161 Speaker 3: to school with a big trainer at the time. He 1045 00:59:29,281 --> 00:59:34,881 Speaker 3: was one of the dads and and so I he 1046 00:59:35,041 --> 00:59:37,401 Speaker 3: was like a rock star when he would walk through 1047 00:59:37,401 --> 00:59:40,401 Speaker 3: the school. And so I think that just and then 1048 00:59:40,521 --> 00:59:43,361 Speaker 3: the excitement, and you know, back in Melbourne, they would 1049 00:59:43,921 --> 00:59:46,441 Speaker 3: cut out. I'm in primary school, they'd cut out what 1050 00:59:46,481 --> 00:59:49,241 Speaker 3: your horses were and if your horse won for Melbourne 1051 00:59:49,241 --> 00:59:52,881 Speaker 3: Cup you'd get two bucks. Like it just really instilled 1052 00:59:52,921 --> 00:59:57,801 Speaker 3: in me the love of horse racing and yeah then 1053 00:59:57,961 --> 01:00:01,601 Speaker 3: then the gambling side of it and I just love it. 1054 01:00:02,601 --> 01:00:04,121 Speaker 1: What are you talking about for your horses? Are they? 1055 01:00:04,161 --> 01:00:05,681 Speaker 1: Are they in all the the. 1056 01:00:05,521 --> 01:00:12,241 Speaker 3: Major So I have one horse that are Actually I've 1057 01:00:12,241 --> 01:00:19,801 Speaker 3: got three Brandwick horses. One that everybody knows, especially in Sydney, 1058 01:00:20,001 --> 01:00:25,561 Speaker 3: is Irona MRK and iron A Mark was just an 1059 01:00:25,601 --> 01:00:31,201 Speaker 3: absolute gun. He still is a gun. He's working his 1060 01:00:31,281 --> 01:00:36,561 Speaker 3: way up in in his races, in his grade in races. 1061 01:00:36,601 --> 01:00:41,201 Speaker 3: So looking forward to a really big spring racing carnival 1062 01:00:41,641 --> 01:00:45,601 Speaker 3: this this season. It's very exciting. I have his full sister, 1063 01:00:45,681 --> 01:00:48,601 Speaker 3: iron A Benz and she's about to have her maiden 1064 01:00:48,841 --> 01:00:53,681 Speaker 3: and yeah they're both iron A Benz. So I've got 1065 01:00:53,681 --> 01:00:59,881 Speaker 3: iron A Benz and iron I don't own an a gay, 1066 01:01:00,921 --> 01:01:03,721 Speaker 3: but yeah, I know that iron A Mark has won 1067 01:01:03,801 --> 01:01:06,361 Speaker 3: a lot of people a lot of but also lost 1068 01:01:06,401 --> 01:01:08,841 Speaker 3: a lot of people. It's just how it is. 1069 01:01:08,761 --> 01:01:10,201 Speaker 1: Is your goal to get them in the. 1070 01:01:10,201 --> 01:01:14,041 Speaker 3: Melbourne Cook No, they're not that kind of horse. I 1071 01:01:14,121 --> 01:01:18,241 Speaker 3: do have one horse called Great Thinker, with Gay Waterhouse 1072 01:01:18,361 --> 01:01:22,521 Speaker 3: and he's from uh so you think which was a 1073 01:01:22,561 --> 01:01:28,161 Speaker 3: Melbourne Cup winning horse. Potentially if he pulls a finger out, 1074 01:01:28,401 --> 01:01:30,481 Speaker 3: could get there one day. But he's still a bit young. 1075 01:01:30,961 --> 01:01:32,961 Speaker 3: So yeah, I just got to keep on paying all 1076 01:01:33,001 --> 01:01:37,201 Speaker 3: my money for them. Just such a sieve of cash. 1077 01:01:37,041 --> 01:01:39,281 Speaker 1: Oh well, it is like horses of court. 1078 01:01:39,321 --> 01:01:41,761 Speaker 2: A few friends who've owned horses, but it's just a 1079 01:01:42,081 --> 01:01:43,441 Speaker 2: that's a different kind of passion. 1080 01:01:43,761 --> 01:01:45,161 Speaker 3: Ah. Yeah, You've got to do it for the love 1081 01:01:45,161 --> 01:01:47,121 Speaker 3: of horse racing, not thinking that you're going to make 1082 01:01:47,121 --> 01:01:49,201 Speaker 3: a quick buck or anything like that, because it's definitely 1083 01:01:49,241 --> 01:01:52,601 Speaker 3: not like that. No. I love I love it, honestly, 1084 01:01:52,961 --> 01:01:56,441 Speaker 3: I'll be doing it forever. I actually so, I've been 1085 01:01:56,561 --> 01:02:00,721 Speaker 3: labeled as the only sex worker in the horse racing 1086 01:02:00,801 --> 01:02:05,881 Speaker 3: industry and that went worldwide, Like that just went nuts nuts. 1087 01:02:06,481 --> 01:02:10,281 Speaker 3: I get a few looks. I feel sorry. I got 1088 01:02:10,281 --> 01:02:13,001 Speaker 3: to race days with my friends and I just know 1089 01:02:13,041 --> 01:02:15,201 Speaker 3: that people are watching being like is that a quiet? 1090 01:02:15,401 --> 01:02:16,921 Speaker 3: Did that person pay to be with her? 1091 01:02:16,961 --> 01:02:25,281 Speaker 1: Today? So? What now is your goal? What's the future 1092 01:02:25,281 --> 01:02:25,801 Speaker 1: hole for you? 1093 01:02:27,921 --> 01:02:32,001 Speaker 3: I have some crazy, wild dreams and I'm the kind 1094 01:02:32,001 --> 01:02:34,161 Speaker 3: of person that when I get something in my mind, 1095 01:02:34,961 --> 01:02:37,481 Speaker 3: I can make it. I can make it happen, and 1096 01:02:37,641 --> 01:02:43,001 Speaker 3: big on just putting it out there and making it 1097 01:02:43,041 --> 01:02:45,481 Speaker 3: come to life. And I don't know how I do this, 1098 01:02:45,641 --> 01:02:49,281 Speaker 3: but I've got a pretty wild dream. I actually was 1099 01:02:49,321 --> 01:02:52,561 Speaker 3: just talking about it earlier before you arrived, and I 1100 01:02:52,641 --> 01:02:54,121 Speaker 3: just hope that something that I can get off the 1101 01:02:54,161 --> 01:02:57,961 Speaker 3: ground is pretty wild and so out of scope for 1102 01:02:58,121 --> 01:03:02,841 Speaker 3: anything that I've done before. But I can't give too 1103 01:03:02,921 --> 01:03:07,321 Speaker 3: much away. But yeah, I'd love to write a book 1104 01:03:08,041 --> 01:03:12,601 Speaker 3: all my life. I am a bit of a comedy writer. 1105 01:03:12,961 --> 01:03:16,281 Speaker 3: I am good at writing, even though I left school 1106 01:03:16,281 --> 01:03:21,281 Speaker 3: at grade nine. But yeah, I have some crazy plans. 1107 01:03:21,321 --> 01:03:26,961 Speaker 3: I would love to get into men's men's healthcare. I 1108 01:03:27,001 --> 01:03:29,921 Speaker 3: feel like I know so much about men, more than 1109 01:03:29,961 --> 01:03:33,921 Speaker 3: what men know about themselves, and so yeah, I don't know. 1110 01:03:34,001 --> 01:03:37,441 Speaker 3: There's a few things on the agenda, but for the minute, 1111 01:03:37,601 --> 01:03:40,641 Speaker 3: I'm just having a great time. And when I'm no 1112 01:03:40,721 --> 01:03:42,721 Speaker 3: longer having a great time, I'll just go do on 1113 01:03:42,801 --> 01:03:47,121 Speaker 3: something something else. Describe you in one word, no, I 1114 01:03:47,161 --> 01:03:56,641 Speaker 3: need like twenty. I would say tenacious, it's not bad. 1115 01:03:56,681 --> 01:03:58,641 Speaker 3: What would you describe yourself as in one word? 1116 01:03:58,881 --> 01:04:02,601 Speaker 2: Me, I've got two and it's just a muscle let's 1117 01:04:02,601 --> 01:04:04,881 Speaker 2: see that's how always been the muscle. 1118 01:04:05,521 --> 01:04:06,721 Speaker 3: Yeah right, that's true. 1119 01:04:06,721 --> 01:04:15,521 Speaker 1: Words, I know we'll take out. Oh my gosh, thank 1120 01:04:15,561 --> 01:04:16,441 Speaker 1: you for coming. 1121 01:04:16,201 --> 01:04:18,601 Speaker 3: On, Yes, thank you for having me. 1122 01:04:18,801 --> 01:04:21,161 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's you know, it was worth the white. 1123 01:04:21,201 --> 01:04:23,401 Speaker 2: It was it was worth the white because it's been 1124 01:04:23,441 --> 01:04:25,081 Speaker 2: a long time and when I seen you at sex Bow, 1125 01:04:25,161 --> 01:04:26,321 Speaker 2: it's like this is going to happen. 1126 01:04:26,401 --> 01:04:26,841 Speaker 1: This is that. 1127 01:04:30,001 --> 01:04:33,161 Speaker 3: Sex Bow has been so fun, so fun during the 1128 01:04:33,161 --> 01:04:33,721 Speaker 3: whole country. 1129 01:04:34,161 --> 01:04:35,721 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm going down to Melbourne. 1130 01:04:36,281 --> 01:04:40,841 Speaker 3: Yeah, bring in Melbourne is massive. Wait, but thank you 1131 01:04:40,881 --> 01:04:41,961 Speaker 3: again anytime