Speaker 1: Welcome to First things first, I'm brook Bletting. My pronouns
Speaker 1: are she and her.
Speaker 2: I'm Maddie Meals. My pronouns are he and him. And
Speaker 2: before we get started, we'd like to acknowledge the custodians
Speaker 2: of the land on which we record and today for me,
Speaker 2: that's the Gaddigil people of the urination and.
Speaker 1: For me, I'm back in Melbourne, zurrendering people of the
Speaker 1: cooler nation.
Speaker 3: Let's go into it.
Speaker 1: So we're just chatting before about thirty. Oh my god, yes,
Speaker 1: because I'm counting down the days. It's literally in like
Speaker 1: less than eight weeks.
Speaker 2: It is so soon for you.
Speaker 3: It's so crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel thirty though. I feel like.
Speaker 2: When squat your knees crack.
Speaker 4: Not yet not Yeah, I've got good knees, good ankle.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I love that. See, I'm just scared. I
Speaker 2: was having a conversation with someone on the weekend who's
Speaker 2: thirty one, and they were like, you just wait, your
Speaker 2: body starts you start to feel it once you turn thirty.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my ooh, I'm scared.
Speaker 3: That reminds me of what Dad was telling me the
Speaker 3: other day.
Speaker 1: We were on the phone, and he said, when you
Speaker 1: get old, when you get to the ground, so like
Speaker 1: when you're sitting or like you need to pick up something,
Speaker 1: He's like, you start to think about all the things
Speaker 1: that you should probably do down there because it's so hard.
Speaker 3: To get back up.
Speaker 2: Next minute, you're just crawling around the room.
Speaker 1: So I never loved so hard at dud saying that,
Speaker 1: like it was so it's like, so right, I guess
Speaker 1: you're like, oh should.
Speaker 2: I Is it really that far down once you get older?
Speaker 1: I know, but my dad's really tall, so he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that'll be for me.
Speaker 3: So funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean, thirty, how did we get here?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: You know, I still don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like when you're young, you think that
Speaker 2: thirty is a long way away. You think that it's
Speaker 2: an age where you know you're very mature and have
Speaker 2: your shit together and you've got it law sorted, and
Speaker 2: you get here. Well, we're nearly there. You're really close,
Speaker 2: and it's like, I still feel young. I still feel
Speaker 2: like I don't know exactly what's going on, and I
Speaker 2: feel like I still feel in my early twenties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly think, why is emphasis so much on
Speaker 1: those decades? Yeah, because I mean about like twenty didn't
Speaker 1: seem like a decade, right, Like eighteen was where you
Speaker 1: get to and you're.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I'm an adult, not really like let's.
Speaker 2: Be honest, you're still a child totally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then there was no really no big emphasis
Speaker 1: on twenty like you're in you. And then you know,
Speaker 1: there's your twenties. When you're in your twenties, yeah, thirty,
Speaker 1: and then forty, like all those decades just start to
Speaker 1: get like so much more emphasis and I feel like
Speaker 1: so much more pressure to be at a.
Speaker 3: Certain like stage or place.
Speaker 1: But from what I've heard, and this is just from
Speaker 1: like a general consensus of my friends and family, that
Speaker 1: that your thirties are the best years because you've established
Speaker 1: yourself in thirty years and that's like the best thing,
Speaker 1: I think, because your twenties are figuring it all out
Speaker 1: and your thirties is like, okay, yeah, like I've done
Speaker 1: the work now and I know who I am. And
Speaker 1: there are people that are probably we found themselves earlier
Speaker 1: than that. But I think like your thirties like really established,
Speaker 1: like you're taking a little bit more serious. I think
Speaker 1: you know, you're not in your twenties anymore, You're not
Speaker 1: in your baby era.
Speaker 2: Did you ever feel like when you were younger that
Speaker 2: you were going to sort of have it all sorted
Speaker 2: out or sort like? For me, I remember even in
Speaker 2: my early teens thinking that by the age I was
Speaker 2: twenty one, I wanted to have like everything that I
Speaker 2: ever wanted, you know, the pressure of having success or
Speaker 2: having the house or the car, or the big dream
Speaker 2: or the big goals fulfilled by the age of twenty one. Like,
Speaker 2: how insane is that to even comprehend now, Like, you know,
Speaker 2: ten years, yeah, past that, and it's like we're still
Speaker 2: figuring it out.
Speaker 3: I think that's so human.
Speaker 1: Though, because I did have a timeline when I was younger,
Speaker 1: I think I couldn't tell you what my timeline was.
Speaker 1: I wasn't really that set on it because I think
Speaker 1: when I was younger, I was trying to survive and
Speaker 1: trying to make a life for my So I don't
Speaker 1: think I could really envision that because I was there
Speaker 1: was so much happening in my life. But I think
Speaker 1: when I got more settled in my early twenties and
Speaker 1: I started to you know, develop my career, I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: Like when I had a long term relationship, I think
Speaker 1: that was what helped push my timeline, because you know,
Speaker 1: when you're building a life together with someone, which I
Speaker 1: think I feel like that, you know that's something you
Speaker 1: and Danny are doing. You start to plan and you
Speaker 1: start to I guess, lock those sort of things in
Speaker 1: because that's what you worked for, I guess in a relationship,
Speaker 1: like right, but I mean, you know, they're relationships that
Speaker 1: are just lucy groosey and we'd just go with the flow.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, okay, yeah, sure, broken up next week now.
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, I've only really thought about those timelines
Speaker 1: when I was in a relationship.
Speaker 3: But being single and I.
Speaker 1: Guess sort of figuring it out and establishing myself by
Speaker 1: myself and for myself, I haven't put some pressure on
Speaker 1: the timeline. I definitely thought i'd be in a different place,
Speaker 1: and I still have those feelings like I'm sure you know,
Speaker 1: the kids have always been on my cards. But actually,
Speaker 1: funny enough, this is such a weird thing that I
Speaker 1: haven't really spoken about. But when I was younger, my
Speaker 1: stepmom used to ask me like would I have children.
Speaker 1: I was very maternal when I was in community, like
Speaker 1: I always had a kid on my hip, like you know,
Speaker 1: walking around with babies. But then when I got to
Speaker 1: my dad's and my stepmom, I didn't have that, so
Speaker 1: I got to kind of like learn to be a kid.
Speaker 1: Funny enough, I actually then wasn't into dolls and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Like I was into drawing, art and sport.
Speaker 1: Children weren't really like something that I wanted. It was
Speaker 1: just in community that I'd always been around and like
Speaker 1: become so maternal about. And then I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: when I was there, like yeah, I didn't really want
Speaker 1: to be around kids and babies. Okay, I wasn't like
Speaker 1: I got asked a babysit and I had babysit.
Speaker 3: That was about it.
Speaker 1: But then when my stepmom asked me like, do you
Speaker 1: want children, I would actually say to her not. Obviously
Speaker 1: that changed over time and I realized I do love
Speaker 1: working with kids. Us. You know, there's certain ages that
Speaker 1: I love working with, and I think it's the age
Speaker 1: when I was.
Speaker 4: Younger, when my mum died was eleven.
Speaker 1: So I feel like that age for me is I
Speaker 1: know that it was crucial in my life, and that
Speaker 1: is that that's the age that I want to work with.
Speaker 1: So I feel like it all came for full circle.
Speaker 1: But in terms of the timeline, right, like the older
Speaker 1: I get, the more I'm moving away from children.
Speaker 2: Well, I was just about to say. You said something
Speaker 2: to me the other day when we were shopping, and
Speaker 2: you said, we're talking about kids, and you said, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't even think. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I want kids anymore. And I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, there's we've had many conversations about kids,
Speaker 2: and and by you saying that, it definitely felt like
Speaker 2: maybe you had had a change of thought about being
Speaker 2: a mum. Is that something that like has come recently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I had lunch with friends yesterday and they've
Speaker 1: had a six month old and this she's so beautiful,
Speaker 1: like little Millie, and you know, I'm holding her and
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying that time and I feel that, you know,
Speaker 1: like that sort of maternal instinct with like hold, you know,
Speaker 1: like making sure this little thing is safe and you
Speaker 1: know happy. Yeah, but there is that I guess that
Speaker 1: sort of disconnection that I have now that it's like
Speaker 1: I like my freedom. You know, having a dog is
Speaker 1: a big responsibility and you know, like now, like you know,
Speaker 1: I'm in Melbourne and.
Speaker 4: Covis with you, and I feel like guilty because I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, well, my child, my dog child, yeah, is not
Speaker 1: with me, and I feel like i'm you know.
Speaker 3: And so I just can't. I just don't want to
Speaker 3: have to live.
Speaker 1: With that kind of guilt and responsibility in this moment
Speaker 1: right now of taking care of something.
Speaker 4: I just want to actually live a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, because I only feel like I've just started,
Speaker 1: which is crazy. So I'll turn I'll flip over to thirty,
Speaker 1: I'll turn that next chapter, that next level up, and
Speaker 1: I feel like I've only just really started living, Like
Speaker 1: I want to actually explore international travel, I want to
Speaker 1: achieve like things like I want to climb and hike
Speaker 1: and do these fun things. But if I have a kid, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that responsibility or that freedom and that independence can be
Speaker 1: sort of impacted, I guess. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm being a bit a bit selfish, but
Speaker 1: itself flops because I'm still figuring out myself too, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not perfectly where I would like to. I guess,
Speaker 1: like no one really is, are they Like perfectly where
Speaker 1: they want to be.
Speaker 3: What was your timeline?
Speaker 2: Well, my timeline. I always felt like when I was
Speaker 2: younger that I wanted to achieve and have success early
Speaker 2: in my life and I wanted to like tick off
Speaker 2: the big goals of buying a house and.
Speaker 4: Okay, did you have ages of what you would want
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, early, and like I'm talking early twenties, and it
Speaker 2: just you know though, all in your early twenties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in my twenty.
Speaker 2: Five yeah, and it is insane. But I think as
Speaker 2: a kid, I thought, you know, shoot the stars and
Speaker 2: try and achieve it. But I think the.
Speaker 1: Stars land on the moon, or land on the side
Speaker 1: of the road.
Speaker 2: Or land in a rental.
Speaker 3: But like for men.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I just think right now, like I'm very
Speaker 2: much moving towards having a kid, Like I think that
Speaker 2: there are things in my life that I'm planning and
Speaker 2: making room for. So I think that I'm on a
Speaker 2: trajectory right now in terms of a timeline that I'm
Speaker 2: really happy with. I know that by the time i'm,
Speaker 2: you know, in my mid thirties, I would like to
Speaker 2: have my first child. So it's like over the next
Speaker 2: year or two, it'd be like a planning stage and
Speaker 2: then going into that, and that timeline doesn't depend on
Speaker 2: a partner for me, So whether I'm with my partner
Speaker 2: who I'm still with, or whether I'm single, I know
Speaker 2: that that timeline is something that I'm working towards, and
Speaker 2: that's I feel really happy and really like excited about
Speaker 2: the future when it comes to children. But I also
Speaker 2: know that now it's time to kick into gear and
Speaker 2: do the next level of work. So for me, you know,
Speaker 2: my career has always been my first love, and I
Speaker 2: feel like I want to continue to put that first
Speaker 2: for now and then you know, in a year or
Speaker 2: two really start that. I don't know process of a child,
Speaker 2: but for me, I don't I'm not scared by the
Speaker 2: biological clock, you know what I mean, that's not a
Speaker 2: concern for a male. I have the privilege of being
Speaker 2: able to, you know, have kids when I want, really
Speaker 2: put it wherever you want, So you know, I don't
Speaker 2: have that pressure like a female does. So for me,
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of less stress around the timing.
Speaker 2: But I do know that it'll be in the next
Speaker 2: few years that I had my first child. But I want,
Speaker 2: you know, a couple, so I don't know, I just
Speaker 2: I think I definitely know that it'll be by by
Speaker 2: the time I'm thirty five, i'll have my kids. Because
Speaker 2: I also want to live a long life with my kids.
Speaker 2: I want to be able to be around for a
Speaker 2: long time, so you know, I don't want to have
Speaker 2: them too late because of that reason. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that in terms of thirties, I'm excited for what
Speaker 2: it will bring for me. I'm like, Okay, I've got
Speaker 2: another six months, mind you. I'm not thirty until May,
Speaker 2: so I'm like halfway there from twenty nine. But I'm
Speaker 2: looking forward to it. I think my thirtieth year will
Speaker 2: be the year the year of like elevation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel like it's some sort of like
Speaker 1: SIMS game, will like PCA game where you level up.
Speaker 2: Level up.
Speaker 1: Feel like I'm leveling up, but not leveling up where
Speaker 1: I thought I would be leveling up in different ways.
Speaker 4: But I think it's all making sense to me now because.
Speaker 3: I'm not to go with the flow kind of girl.
Speaker 2: I want to encourage you to do all the things
Speaker 2: you want to do. You know, you're talking about traveling solo,
Speaker 2: like go and do it, go to New York, Go
Speaker 2: and explore the art scene over there, do all the
Speaker 2: things that you want to do before you know, you
Speaker 2: even consider having a child, because as we know, children
Speaker 2: then become out priority and everything else sort of you know,
Speaker 2: does have to get put on the back burner for
Speaker 2: a little while.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And I've always said when I do want to have kids,
Speaker 1: which I'm no problem, you know, I know women have.
Speaker 3: You know, time restraint and you know their bodies.
Speaker 1: But I feel like I've already spoken about freezing my
Speaker 1: eggs and you know that will happen when I can
Speaker 1: dedicate the time and like emotional capacity. Because I'm also
Speaker 1: scared needles and you have to like inject yourself, so
Speaker 1: it's quite an overwhelming experience.
Speaker 2: That's why I've never done steroids. Well like say never, never, never, kidding,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I'm really scared.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what I mean. Yeah, injecting yourself like
Speaker 3: terrifies me. But I don't know. I don't also don't
Speaker 3: care if I was.
Speaker 1: An older mom, like yeah, in a way, because I
Speaker 1: think I would be quite a philosophical mom, like I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a yeller or I want to train myself
Speaker 1: out of being a helicopter mom, because I'm a bit
Speaker 1: of a helicopter mom with my dog and I don't
Speaker 1: want to be like that as a mum, and so
Speaker 1: I think I need more, I know, because you just
Speaker 1: don't want them to hurt themselves, and you know, you
Speaker 1: have a duty of.
Speaker 2: Care, Like where are you going to the cinemas? Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going to have a steak out with your dad.
Speaker 2: Am I going to watch you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like I'll be across the road in the car with
Speaker 2: the binoculars like, yeah, okay, he's there. He's a good
Speaker 2: imagine myself.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I think that the first thing
Speaker 1: is that we probably will be parents that we didn't have.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying your parents are not beautiful and
Speaker 1: you know, you know you don't love them deeply, but I.
Speaker 2: Love them, but they absolutely weren't there for me. Yeah
Speaker 2: you know when I was young.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to be like a really I want
Speaker 1: to be a hands on mum, but like you go
Speaker 1: and explore. Because I was talking to this my friends
Speaker 1: yesterday because obvious they've just had their first and then
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't want to overstep and ask them like, oh,
Speaker 1: when's your second? But like my friend Beck was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes I just want to get over and done with
Speaker 1: because a lot of her stuff is on hold because
Speaker 1: of the maybe and so she's like, if I just
Speaker 1: get it all the way then yeah, and then I
Speaker 1: get to go back to my life quicker.
Speaker 3: Isn't that sad?
Speaker 2: But isn't that I think like that too, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, fast, fast and then yes.
Speaker 2: It's sort of like I think about that too. It's
Speaker 2: it's the decision between holding off and getting shit done
Speaker 2: now or having a baby and then getting back to it.
Speaker 2: My mentality around and bringing a child into the world
Speaker 2: is exactly that. I'm concerned that, like when do I
Speaker 2: bring the baby into the world, because even for me,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be like the mum, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going to be the one to take
Speaker 2: time off. I'm going to be the one that has to,
Speaker 2: you know, really put in the effort. I feel so
Speaker 2: like I'm worried about that timeline as well. It's like
Speaker 2: when do you do it? Do you do it now
Speaker 2: and then you know, get it over and done with,
Speaker 2: or do you wait and then or you don't.
Speaker 1: Have to carry it for nine months? On topics like
Speaker 1: actually total ability starting like.
Speaker 2: Much. It's much more for a for a woman who's
Speaker 2: carrying a baby, of course, yeah, it's and that's.
Speaker 3: Just a crazy thing.
Speaker 1: Anyways, I feel like, you know, babies are on the cards,
Speaker 1: but I think maybe in the next decade, what is.
Speaker 2: It that you want to tick off? I know, acting?
Speaker 2: You know, you got to twenty nine and now you're
Speaker 2: doing acting.
Speaker 3: I know, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I wish I did it sooner, But I'm so glad
Speaker 1: that I'm doing it now because I've got so much
Speaker 1: more life experience to bring to the table.
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, there is.
Speaker 1: That feeling like, oh am I too old? But I'm like, look,
Speaker 1: I look like fucking eighteen.
Speaker 3: Like totally calm down, Brook, you need to chill.
Speaker 1: I do have a list and I am a mental list,
Speaker 1: and I feel like, you know, it's crazy because I
Speaker 1: have we both have achieved so much in such a
Speaker 1: short period of time. Like when you think about it, right,
Speaker 1: like I'd say, we're probably like one of very.
Speaker 3: The youngest duos in podcasts.
Speaker 1: Like there's younger people obviously, but like I feel like
Speaker 1: we're the youngest like First Nations duo in what.
Speaker 3: Do you call it?
Speaker 2: You know, we're the youngest. But we're also like one
Speaker 2: of the only first nations JeOS with a podcast on
Speaker 2: mainstream on a mainstream network.
Speaker 3: That's what probably trying to spin out, sorry, trying to
Speaker 3: spend out in my thirties.
Speaker 1: I want to learn English English? Do you want to
Speaker 1: learn another language? I am doing the US accents. I'm
Speaker 1: practicing US and British accent.
Speaker 2: Can you give me a US accent?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not, No, I'm still learning. I feel like.
Speaker 1: I've got the Yeah, I've got the idea of like
Speaker 1: Southern New York's really hard, like Brooklyn, New York, like Boston,
Speaker 1: Boston Valley Girl's easy, Like yeah.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 1: And it's weird about your mouth? And I'm learning, But
Speaker 1: that's on the list.
Speaker 3: Obviously a lot of travel solo, you.
Speaker 2: Said, climbing and hiking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know, I want to say that I've done.
Speaker 3: Well like things. God, where's that.
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Where's Mount k Where is that? It's South America?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Africa, Africa. It's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, like have those like things that
Speaker 1: I could say to the kids, like there's your mom
Speaker 1: that was me after.
Speaker 3: I hiked.
Speaker 2: That photo exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I want my kids to like future children
Speaker 1: or and my family to be like, oh that is
Speaker 1: so cool, Like yeah, I want to do that, you know,
Speaker 1: and and aspire for more because I feel like I've
Speaker 1: just been in.
Speaker 3: My Aussie bubble and I have you know.
Speaker 1: Been so passionate about First Nations culture and you know,
Speaker 1: pushing that forward and I think there's a huge ship.
Speaker 1: I've noticed a lot of a lot more like I
Speaker 1: just I'm seeing mob everywhere, which is amazing, Like it's
Speaker 1: just so good. Like I saw Billy Jean honestly Folly
Speaker 1: campaign and I know, I'm like that is a sleigh
Speaker 1: Like seeing that is like, oh my god, amazing. You know,
Speaker 1: but I think, you know, I have like you know,
Speaker 1: I said I was going to be my best fitness.
Speaker 3: What is that my best error?
Speaker 1: Well, I just feel good about my body at the moment,
Speaker 1: at the moment, at the moment.
Speaker 3: It could change, but it just more free is a thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So Raach got us a list. Okay, travel solo.
Speaker 2: Obviously I've never done it, but I want to do it.
Speaker 3: I haven't done a lot of it on my account.
Speaker 4: Like I have traveled solo for jobs, and but you're
Speaker 4: not solo with a team.
Speaker 3: Exactly yeah, but it's just it's yeah.
Speaker 2: It's not the same as just getting your bag and
Speaker 2: going somewhere to another country and getting off that plane,
Speaker 2: not knowing anyone and figuring it out you self. You know,
Speaker 2: I've never done it, but I would like.
Speaker 1: To, truly exactly. I've already ran a half marathon. So
Speaker 1: I ran the Hbar Run for a reason in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: What's a half marathon? How long?
Speaker 3: Twenty three case or twenty two case?
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a lot.
Speaker 3: I can't remember. That's how long ago it was.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I need to run at full that's before.
Speaker 2: Would you ever went one? Yeah? So would you consider
Speaker 2: doing the New York Marathon with the Indigenous Marathon Runners Project?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I followed their journey and I love it,
Speaker 1: and yes I would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really signing up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I did sign up years and years ago,
Speaker 3: actually didn't get.
Speaker 2: In, so oh okay, I'm thinking of doing it because
Speaker 2: I was really inspired by the Cory Physio. He did
Speaker 2: it in three hours and twenty minutes, and I'm like, wow.
Speaker 3: That's amazingly Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean definitely in my running error, I've definitely
Speaker 1: been enjoying I guess where I'm living in Sydney.
Speaker 3: It's just so easy to run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the best I.
Speaker 3: Could got the Harbor Bridge there. I'm like Jesus.
Speaker 2: Stunning, totally love it. I just can't imagine doing it,
Speaker 2: like running for that long? Is it? Like how I
Speaker 2: just don't think I could do it, honestly.
Speaker 4: Well, when I did the half that was like two hours.
Speaker 3: It was quite a long time.
Speaker 4: I think if you listen to podcasts, it flies, but.
Speaker 1: It's the pain and there's something, there's a word that
Speaker 1: you It's like when you put your shoes on right,
Speaker 1: you first feel that awkwardness, but after a while you
Speaker 1: get used to it. Yeah, that's I guess that's a
Speaker 1: similar pain to when you're running. You can you immediately
Speaker 1: feel a pain, but then you get so used to
Speaker 1: it because you're like motoring, and then it's just more
Speaker 1: of a mental battle than it really is physically.
Speaker 3: I mean, depends on your.
Speaker 4: State and what you're in totally.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think you feel the pain, but you
Speaker 1: learn to go through it or pass it. You just
Speaker 1: and I think podcasts and voices, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: distraction of what's going on, and if you can get
Speaker 1: into a rhythm and a motor. That's how I feel
Speaker 1: what I'm running. If I'm going a long distance, it's
Speaker 1: just getting into a rhythm and not like putting pressure
Speaker 1: on a time thing. Yes, I want to get a
Speaker 1: fast time, but personally me, like as a little person,
Speaker 1: I can't make the ground as what other people can
Speaker 1: unless I'm like an elite leadist runner like.
Speaker 3: But it's the rhythm.
Speaker 2: Skinny dipping, Yeah, skinny dipping. Have you done it?
Speaker 3: I actually have and it was quite liberating.
Speaker 2: Okay, when did you do it?
Speaker 3: I went?
Speaker 1: I was in an hour south of Melbourne, Okay, and
Speaker 1: I was with Courtney, Sam and Jake and cat like.
Speaker 2: It was just a ca said Jake. It's a real bogun.
Speaker 3: I's gonna say, Jack you like.
Speaker 2: I was with Courtney, Sam mcginner, Jake.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I told you I'm in my thirties and
Speaker 1: I went proper English Yeah no no, but they got
Speaker 1: this like video of me, so we went, I went
Speaker 1: skinny dip and they captured this photo of me, and
Speaker 1: I've got it for life because it's like, I don't know, it.
Speaker 3: Just feels like I'm really free, like I've got my
Speaker 3: hands up.
Speaker 4: I'm just like naked TV's out.
Speaker 3: It's just my back.
Speaker 1: You can just see like my mom, I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: I'm not going to show that to my kids, but.
Speaker 2: I'll be like, no, you should look at me and
Speaker 2: my heyday, Yeah, look at mom. She was hot.
Speaker 3: She was a slay. Mommy can't say that too old.
Speaker 2: It's like so I was saying, like when old people
Speaker 2: say that's groovy, we'll be going that's a slay and
Speaker 2: I'll be going that's really old. You can't use that word.
Speaker 3: Now I can bring back groovy.
Speaker 2: Groovyvy groovy. Yeah, baby, all right. I learned to speak
Speaker 2: another language. I want to do this. I want to
Speaker 2: learn Spanish, you know juwel lingo is Colombian man like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but ain't nobody want to like get your partner to
Speaker 2: teach you, you know, like, oh yeah, fight. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: say it right and he'd be impatient and he'd probably
Speaker 2: get up and walk out and it just it would
Speaker 2: work and end of the relationship. I'm sure I'd be like, well,
Speaker 2: can you teach me how to break up with you?
Speaker 2: In Spanish? Learned how to read a wine list? Noah,
Speaker 2: I don't care about that. What do you think? Oh?
Speaker 2: I already know how to do that, do you what's
Speaker 2: a tipper?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Do you need like specifics of wine?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, like when you look at you would understand
Speaker 2: what region they're from and.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, that's okay. That depth well, I no, I
Speaker 3: don't know that.
Speaker 2: It's a deep red with a bit of grape.
Speaker 1: I know the spectrum of like of a wine, like
Speaker 1: where they would sit, I guess, and like different blends.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not an expert for sure, but like,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like I spend.
Speaker 1: Enough time at wineries to understand, you know a little
Speaker 1: bit about wine.
Speaker 3: Health insurance. How do you not have private health insurance?
Speaker 2: Well, they say that you should get it when you're thirty.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's like, because things start to break down.
Speaker 2: Not in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: I've been paying private health insurance since I was in
Speaker 1: my fucking twenties because I was playing footy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I broke my collar bone.
Speaker 1: Do you think I want to fork out a nine
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars bill for an ambulance and that?
Speaker 3: Honey?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Now, Now what about taking a grown up weekend away
Speaker 2: with friends? I feel like you do that I do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I felt so grown up when it was
Speaker 1: just me and my two friends and their baby. Like
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is a real grown up
Speaker 1: like lunch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, we're.
Speaker 4: Just catching up.
Speaker 2: I feel like that when I'm catching out with my
Speaker 2: mum friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like such a grown up. I mean, I
Speaker 1: want to do more trips together where we can just
Speaker 1: like drink.
Speaker 3: Oak barrel drink.
Speaker 1: Why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna be real bank you then no,
Speaker 3: we we drink wine.
Speaker 2: No, I'm doing the opposite. I'm really trying to continue
Speaker 2: the sober thing. I really want to do it, like
Speaker 2: it's in my heart. So I'm like, okay, twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five sober, sober, so sober so yeah that's huge. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's like a big thing for me and my
Speaker 2: partner too. We're really like it's just a better life.
Speaker 2: Like I remember when I was one hundred and ten
Speaker 2: days sober and I just thought to myself, Oh, I'm
Speaker 2: so clear in my head. The clarity is amazing. I
Speaker 2: never felt that before. So yeah, I love that for you.
Speaker 1: I think I'm just keeping it to the weekends and
Speaker 1: not putting so much like like I put so much
Speaker 1: pressure on myself to it totally yes, and I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 2: Fuck it, I think that you have a measure, and
Speaker 2: I do dumb shit when I drink. Like I'm not
Speaker 2: the kind that is like let's have two SIPs of
Speaker 2: alcohol and talk really nice. It's like, let's have two
Speaker 2: SIPs of alcohol, Let's go to a party, let's not
Speaker 2: get home until five am. You know, it's just not
Speaker 2: it's not a positive impact on my life.
Speaker 3: I just go down so fucking bad. My friends tell
Speaker 3: me that I'm well, there's a joke, so they're drunk,
Speaker 3: not drunk.
Speaker 1: No, my friend tell me that I'm so much better
Speaker 1: because I get funnier and I get extroverted. And I'm like, oh, well, okay,
Speaker 1: well that's not good because maybe I just need to
Speaker 1: be drunk this whole time this film. Can I tell you, Okay,
Speaker 1: highs and lows of twenties, let's go into that just quickly.
Speaker 3: I have to tell you a story.
Speaker 1: And it's really crazy moment and I think this will
Speaker 1: troject me into my thirties, which is insane to think
Speaker 1: about me as a little person and this is happening. Ever,
Speaker 1: in my fucking life. So I went to the basketball
Speaker 1: on Saturday night. Danny Minogg is a huge basketball advocate.
Speaker 1: She has a box and her son's a great like
Speaker 1: He loves basketball so much, collects her cards and gets
Speaker 1: the signatures, et cetera. Anyways, Nick, who's a CEO of
Speaker 1: Melbourne United, told Danny because Danny knows who the fuck
Speaker 1: I am, which is so weird, Like comes up to me,
Speaker 1: says hello, like, talks to me as if like oh,
Speaker 1: and remembers when I've last seen her Like that is
Speaker 1: just mind blowing to my little self being like, yes,
Speaker 1: the minogue, the minogue of my childhood kylie En Danny. Obviously,
Speaker 1: it's like she knows who the fuck I am.
Speaker 3: It's weird.
Speaker 1: Anyways, Nick, one of my good friends, works for Zeero.
Speaker 1: He told Danny that I was filming a feature film
Speaker 1: in Sydney. Ye must have given her a little rundown
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, she comes up to me, she blines
Speaker 1: for me. She grabs my hands, holding two hands and
Speaker 1: looks me deep in my eyes and says, you're gonna
Speaker 1: absolute kill it, honey. Gives me the biggest fucking hype
Speaker 1: talk you can ever imagine. Ori which is Denzel Baker
Speaker 1: Boy's partner, is standing there like watching and just being like, God,
Speaker 1: I'm not even fucking filming a feature film when I
Speaker 1: feel like I can do it.
Speaker 3: After Denny's chat, like she gave me.
Speaker 1: The biggest hype that I've ever had in my life
Speaker 1: and was so genuine and authentic and deep, and I
Speaker 1: was like awkward because I was like.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is real.
Speaker 1: Like I was like spinning out, and she was like,
Speaker 1: you can absolutely fucking do it. You're going to smash it.
Speaker 1: She's swearing at me, Danny's swearing at me, saying you
Speaker 1: can fucking do this. And she's like, she goes, when
Speaker 1: you've got the nerves, you say, Danny's got this, So
Speaker 1: when you go out on that camera and you do
Speaker 1: your thing, I've got your nerves, babe. She's like, I've
Speaker 1: got your nerves. Danny's holding your nerves and you just
Speaker 1: go out and you just show up and you just
Speaker 1: do your fucking thing.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: And she's like, you're going to go to America. I'm like,
Speaker 4: does she even know that I have plans?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Who told her this?
Speaker 1: Because I haven't told anyone barely anyone she's like, no,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to America, like you're going.
Speaker 4: To do it, and can we get her on here,
Speaker 4: get her on the pot her like.
Speaker 2: Because this moment needs to be spoken about, and also
Speaker 2: I want a pep talk fucking this about me.
Speaker 4: Or looked at me and she goes, however, fuck did
Speaker 4: that just happen?
Speaker 1: Like it was insane, Like she's like, you've absolutely and
Speaker 1: got this look me deep in my eyes like I
Speaker 1: could not like if I looked anywhere.
Speaker 3: She was like, pulls me back.
Speaker 1: She's like, no, she needed to tell me this, and
Speaker 1: I just felt like so anyways, I'm fucking that is
Speaker 1: like the biggest confident booster, like to go into your
Speaker 1: thirties with like Danny Minogue fucking giving you the biggest
Speaker 1: hype too all your life.
Speaker 3: Love you, Danny, You're my girl. I would die for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah I love that.
Speaker 1: Okay, but yeah, but okay, so wrap this up. Highs
Speaker 1: and lows of your twenties.
Speaker 2: I know what my lower is. My lowe is losing
Speaker 2: my brother one hundred percent. I never thought that would
Speaker 2: happen in my twenties. And my high, my high, my
Speaker 2: high is just being able to do what I love
Speaker 2: and being able to create this career for myself. That
Speaker 2: was always my dream. You know. I wake up every
Speaker 2: day and I get to do what I love. That
Speaker 2: for me is a high. I think. No one tells
Speaker 2: me what to do. I do what I love, and
Speaker 2: I fucking love that.
Speaker 3: That's amazing. You build that in your twenties.
Speaker 1: I built that, Yeah, I agree, I fucking agree. Similar
Speaker 1: actually twenties building myself up to be the strongest resilient
Speaker 1: version of myself.
Speaker 3: That doesn't obviously I'm very sensitive.
Speaker 1: But I feel like partly impenetrable, like as in like
Speaker 1: things could happen and I would be like, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: just roll with it, you know. And I feel like
Speaker 1: I did that in my twenties because of all this
Speaker 1: shit that happened, like and the lows that happened.
Speaker 3: So my highest version of myself.
Speaker 1: Is because of all the lowest versions of you know,
Speaker 1: in my twenties, and I feel like, you know, taking
Speaker 1: a chance. I think one of the biggest moments was
Speaker 1: taking a chance and doing national television when I was
Speaker 1: twenty three years old, a fucking baby, and here I
Speaker 1: am like developed my career runing fucking three books. You know,
Speaker 1: self sufficient financially physically. I just think like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: my lowest obviously was losing not just my sister as well.
Speaker 3: But I think.
Speaker 1: Like all the dull moments, all the breakups, all the
Speaker 1: shitty things that happened, or the comments or the controversing online,
Speaker 1: all the people that sort of did things and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, impacted me negatively, I'm like, thank you, like
Speaker 1: fucking thank you. Because I look at those moments, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm so fucking glad I got through that in my thirties.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll look back at them and be like
Speaker 1: fuck that. Yeah, And I know what I'm not repeating
Speaker 1: And I know and I think that's the best thing
Speaker 1: about like your next hour of your life is you
Speaker 1: don't repeat the same ship.
Speaker 2: Well you know what your shirt says it all. Do
Speaker 2: you like My shirt says it all and it says
Speaker 2: dump him. Yeah, the listeners.
Speaker 3: It's my advice to myself.
Speaker 2: I love that all that. I feel like that is
Speaker 2: a great place to wrap up. Yeah, awesome, twenty nine years,
Speaker 2: it's been for you.
Speaker 1: And loads, but you know he's the next twenty nine
Speaker 1: years to be fair with you, Let's do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what my high is becoming friends with you
Speaker 1: and building a business and a life together.
Speaker 2: Oh that's beautiful. I love that too, Okay, I take
Speaker 2: my back.
Speaker 3: Okay, and building a community.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening guys today, and I
Speaker 1: hope you know wherever you are at life, I feel
Speaker 1: like there's no pressure to be a certain to be
Speaker 1: at a certain place, you know, just like fucking roll
Speaker 1: with it and just totally and just go for it.
Speaker 3: I think go for it is the thing that I
Speaker 3: would just just do it.
Speaker 2: Yes, And you know what another high is that we're
Speaker 2: up for Best Indigenous Podcast this week. Fuck yes, So
Speaker 2: you guys have to go to the podcast towards.
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Speaker 3: Bye bye