Speaker 1: Premantle takes it's captain's case to the tribunal. The coach
Speaker 1: was forceful in his defense postmatch.
Speaker 2: Justin Longyure is with us tonight.
Speaker 3: The pressure bules as the performances won't come for Carlton
Speaker 3: and Sydney.
Speaker 4: What's at the core of their poor.
Speaker 1: For and Giants superstar Toby Green turned in one of
Speaker 1: his best to mark game two point fifty.
Speaker 2: Adam Kingsley is with us on Coaches Nights.
Speaker 4: We've talked about his step into it, debrace all.
Speaker 1: Of it in the room and reason it's unedifying for
Speaker 1: a senior coach to do that.
Speaker 4: They're on the side of Courtia with the brain, take.
Speaker 2: The man on. They played the best footy I've.
Speaker 1: Ever seen at the start of the season, and In
Speaker 1: said president left the couple older said.
Speaker 2: Of course they do. It is the stuff that legends
Speaker 2: are made of.
Speaker 4: What is holding the ball?
Speaker 3: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now
Speaker 3: that I could do something.
Speaker 2: Wrong, you know, And I need to get on the board.
Speaker 3: Sacks meet the fans, lover and with no fans, no
Speaker 3: through sixty.
Speaker 4: Year old.
Speaker 1: The angles off round eleven about to play out here
Speaker 1: on three sixty Gas I was thinking of you as
Speaker 1: I watching Melbourne last night in that last quarter in
Speaker 1: the fans' hearts going so well, you never want a
Speaker 1: quarter to end. But as it ticked into the fortieth.
Speaker 3: Minutes of Home on going, we've been making the case
Speaker 3: for this for a long time, and a forty minute quarter,
Speaker 3: if you don't mind, ad is a farce and that
Speaker 3: is ridiculous. And there were thirteen goals kicked. I did
Speaker 3: some calculations that took us to twenty nine minutes or something,
Speaker 3: so a couple of stoppages here and there, you get
Speaker 3: off at thirty two thirty nine minutes. Jared, I don't
Speaker 3: want to start on a negative, but that's a joke.
Speaker 4: That's just a joke. Much Our game is not a
Speaker 4: forty minute quarter of footage.
Speaker 2: It was very odd.
Speaker 1: The game finished about thirty minutes past six. That is
Speaker 1: bursting your time slot by a big damn straight. It
Speaker 1: is all right, here's all we've got lined up for
Speaker 1: you tonight. We'll go through the events of round eleven
Speaker 1: and our coach is just along and Adam Kingsley. Then
Speaker 1: we'll hand over on the couch Jack Revolt with Jordan
Speaker 1: Bucks and Brownie to cast the opinions tell you how
Speaker 1: it all unfolded.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow nights two of.
Speaker 1: The most decorated players in the game, Locke Neil and
Speaker 1: Toby Green. We've got a long list for Razor's Edge,
Speaker 1: and that's before we even confer together. And John Longmi
Speaker 1: Adam Simpson to make a smarter on Wednesday night, and
Speaker 1: as the King's Birthday clash comes into serning off duty.
Speaker 2: I know it's going to join all right.
Speaker 1: Every Monday Night starts with the casting of the GVPS,
Speaker 1: the votes for the most valuable players from the round
Speaker 1: in the estimation of just one man, Gary Lyne, and
Speaker 1: it is for the most sought after prize in footy,
Speaker 1: which we have taken out on the road, the Mustang
Speaker 1: GT Fastback, valued at ninety three thousand dollars. Iconic design,
Speaker 1: unreal performance, five of the eight engine responsibility.
Speaker 3: Has not lost on me every time I look at this.
Speaker 3: When you and I went out and took around pre track,
Speaker 3: got it up to about forty three.
Speaker 4: It's a magnificent vehicle.
Speaker 3: And Jeremy Cameron gets another vote, so he's a vote
Speaker 3: closer to winning. He's kicked six and seven in the
Speaker 3: last two weeks big game. One of the best games
Speaker 3: of recent times, and this separates the good players from
Speaker 3: the great Jared and without Paddy Dangerfield again in this side,
Speaker 3: Bailey Smith doing his stuff, but someone had to finish
Speaker 3: it all off, and big jezz I just got it
Speaker 3: done again.
Speaker 1: Another six have been beaten by Rory Love at their
Speaker 1: most recent meeting.
Speaker 2: Do you think he took it personally?
Speaker 4: I don't know if Jeremy's that sort. He doesn't. He's
Speaker 4: sort of that laconic.
Speaker 3: Maybe he is deep down, but he's just he just
Speaker 3: gave Laura a nice one there, So well done to Jez.
Speaker 3: I love sing that too. Thankfully he's coming up tomorrow night.
Speaker 4: Toby Green.
Speaker 3: I love this Jared, because their side was a bit
Speaker 3: of a precarious position. He's the captain. Finn Callahan goes out,
Speaker 3: it's his milestone game. He says, listen, I'll go into
Speaker 3: the middle and sort it out. And he's had ten
Speaker 3: in the first quarter. He actually had eleven in the
Speaker 3: first quarter, kick two goals and just set it in motion.
Speaker 3: And then if there's any doubt in the end, he's
Speaker 3: had another eight in the last quarter and kicked another goal.
Speaker 4: So this is what I love.
Speaker 3: About players like Jeremy Cameron and Bailey Smith. On big occasions,
Speaker 3: you step up and you get the job done. And
Speaker 3: so there was well in the end, there was no
Speaker 3: other way for Toby to finish that game then be
Speaker 3: carried off as a winner.
Speaker 1: Yep, perfect who got the three causey picking.
Speaker 3: So it's a bit like Isaac Keeney last week. He
Speaker 3: had one of those games you just you know, you
Speaker 3: can't argue against.
Speaker 4: And I did tell everyone at the start of the season.
Speaker 2: And he had.
Speaker 3: He just for a little pat on the back, he's
Speaker 3: going to be a top five or top ten praying
Speaker 3: in the comps.
Speaker 4: So welcome aboard everyone. He is in rare form.
Speaker 3: He had thirteen score involvements stared and the other beauty
Speaker 3: of it is he had six clearances and three of
Speaker 3: them in the center bounce. That's some sort of player
Speaker 3: when you can do that, you can kick five goals
Speaker 3: for and have center bounces and set everyone else up.
Speaker 4: So because he's in rare nick So this is.
Speaker 1: The reason why no traders change.
Speaker 4: You don't trade away you're rare, rare, rare talent.
Speaker 3: And he's got two years to go on a contract
Speaker 3: and hopefully thinking, well, I'm sure they'll get to work
Speaker 3: between now and then and I'll try and lock him
Speaker 3: away from about ten.
Speaker 1: All right, five votes for Cozy Toby, Greens on the
Speaker 1: move and Patrick Dangerfield is still our leader the GVPS.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to at the top of the
Speaker 1: agenda is Carlton, who again frustratingly find themselves at four
Speaker 1: and seven at the by. It's creating a familiar sense
Speaker 1: of despondency.
Speaker 4: It's a Veray couple of retirement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has Yeah.
Speaker 5: Look, I mean I think this is the chance to regenerate.
Speaker 2: It's also chance to.
Speaker 5: Have a look at the way we're playing and dissected
Speaker 5: a bit.
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of.
Speaker 4: You condemned to read I'm saying that the Blue I
Speaker 4: mean we have.
Speaker 2: A loud.
Speaker 3: I think this list needs an absolute examination.
Speaker 4: It needs a blow torch damning result.
Speaker 3: I think for the Carton Footy Club, given Kim Callahan
Speaker 3: wasn't in that side, they're skinny through the middle of
Speaker 3: the ground. Really good win for the Giants against the
Speaker 3: odds and that might kicks out there season.
Speaker 4: But the Blues are going to be a bit of
Speaker 4: a story coming up this season. Continues to cough and
Speaker 4: splutter around towards.
Speaker 6: Handed a dream dra or an unbelievably soft drawl.
Speaker 4: So that is where the expectation goes up. Carlton fans
Speaker 4: be pulling their hair out. What has happened to this
Speaker 4: football team?
Speaker 1: You can play finals and make the over, but you
Speaker 1: can't win.
Speaker 2: Flat with it?
Speaker 4: Is that well, you've got to set to win the premiership.
Speaker 7: They are If they think this is the premiership list,
Speaker 7: then roll on.
Speaker 4: But I don't know if they do.
Speaker 5: Drifting into September right now, as you can imagine it,
Speaker 5: probably the furthest thing from my mind is taking a break,
Speaker 5: getting a rest, coming back together, putting the problem on
Speaker 5: the table, solving it.
Speaker 2: Together collectively as a group.
Speaker 5: Resetting ourselves and bringing new energy and getting after it.
Speaker 4: And that's what we'll do.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Michael Voss.
Speaker 1: He diagnosed that it's time to dissects the way that
Speaker 1: the Blues are playing. No team confounds me more. They
Speaker 1: elude me, They confuse me. It feels like being yeah,
Speaker 1: right at the heart of it is where you started
Speaker 1: in March. Is there a flaw in the core of
Speaker 1: their being the live on Street butchers that undermines everything
Speaker 1: else that they're trying to achieve.
Speaker 4: It was around one or two, very early in the season.
Speaker 3: They are still the worst kicking team in the competition today.
Speaker 4: So you start at that and you're still adeen.
Speaker 3: Everything you're trying to achieve in between gets compromised, Jared.
Speaker 3: So they have made some improvements in the way they
Speaker 3: can get the footy from one end to the other.
Speaker 3: They are getting good looks inside fifty. What happens once
Speaker 3: they go inside fifty is the massive problem for this
Speaker 3: football club right now. These are the butcherings that we
Speaker 3: talk about. So you coach your socks off if you want,
Speaker 3: but if you players can't fundamentally fulfill the number one premise,
Speaker 3: If you can't kick in this competition in this day
Speaker 3: and age, you ain't going anywhere, Jared. And they can't kick,
Speaker 3: and that's a broad sweeping statement. Eighteenth at round one
Speaker 3: or two, they're eighteenth at Reeve und eleven and they're
Speaker 3: in the mire again for this reason. And then we'll
Speaker 3: extrapolate it out of it because when you go wider
Speaker 3: than this and you have a look at all of that,
Speaker 3: I don't care who you are. If you can't kick,
Speaker 3: you're you're just not going anywhere. So then you go right,
Speaker 3: well the ball movement stuff has got better, and they
Speaker 3: go okay, I think there are at number three for
Speaker 3: getting the ball inside fifty. So yeah, okay, that's a
Speaker 3: good thing because you've got the two big pillars. What
Speaker 3: happens when you go in there, it's a disaster, Jared.
Speaker 3: It's a disaster when they go inside forward fifty. And
Speaker 3: it reflects very similar to what a team I break for.
Speaker 3: We're doing for a long long time, and that is
Speaker 3: playing predictable, boring, long inside fifty. Charlie and Harry all
Speaker 3: sorted out. They're number eighteen in the competition Jared.
Speaker 1: So this is where Melbourne were eight weeks ago. The
Speaker 1: commonalities are striking.
Speaker 4: It is it is so you go back and have
Speaker 4: a look at it.
Speaker 3: And the first five matches, so from a Melbourne point
Speaker 3: of view, they could get the ball from one end
Speaker 3: of the other. But for scores prince side fifty they
Speaker 3: were at that stage.
Speaker 4: My eyes are deceiving me. They were eighteen.
Speaker 3: The last six matches they go d fifty to inside
Speaker 3: fifty the same amount.
Speaker 4: They're fourth.
Speaker 3: This is what coaches must be able to do otherwise
Speaker 3: the pressure comes, and we talked about Simon Good and
Speaker 3: coaching his way out of the play.
Speaker 4: This is what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Okay, First, the first six games or five matches disaster.
Speaker 4: Change the way you play, change your makeup. Don't forget
Speaker 4: these numbers. Here scores.
Speaker 3: Prince side fifty four is with Harry Petty and Aidan Johnson,
Speaker 3: a young man who's trying to so they drop Van Ruyin.
Speaker 3: Change is good, Drop Van Ruin, drop Rich. You can't
Speaker 3: keep doing the same thing over and over. Change is good.
Speaker 3: So all of a sudden they go to number four
Speaker 3: with Aiden Johnson and Harry Petty. It's because the way
Speaker 3: they move the footy third fastest ball movement team over
Speaker 3: the last six weeks between Gold behind Gold Coast and Geelong.
Speaker 4: So change something.
Speaker 2: So Carlton, exactly where they were at the start.
Speaker 3: I don't have to sit here at round one saying
Speaker 3: you're the worst kick and turn the competition. You're predictable
Speaker 3: going inside fifty, and now we sit here and go
Speaker 3: you're still the worst kicking team in the competition and
Speaker 3: you can't score when you go inside fifty. With Charlie
Speaker 3: Kurna and Harry Kai inside fifty. So this is where
Speaker 3: you can take over because I don't get two heated.
Speaker 3: But now they sit there at the by where Vossi says,
Speaker 3: we've got to have a look at it. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: we have a look at it and say the way
Speaker 3: we're playing ain't modern footy.
Speaker 4: It's not doing it.
Speaker 3: Maybe having Charlie and Harry inside forward fifty, he just says,
Speaker 3: we'll try and get everything else and then we get
Speaker 3: to that end, we'll kick it to Charlie and Harry.
Speaker 3: That's not working. That's not working. So maybe they look
Speaker 3: at Charlie up high. Maybe they look at him as
Speaker 3: a winger. Maybe that's how he's a bloke that can
Speaker 3: kick the footy inside forward fifty. But it's over to
Speaker 3: Graham right now. He's sitting back observing all of this. Jared,
Speaker 3: and these are all the discussions are going to be
Speaker 3: had in the coming weeks.
Speaker 1: So the challenge I find washing them is could they
Speaker 1: be better? Should they be better? Are they a whisker.
Speaker 2: Away or are they a mile away?
Speaker 1: The blunt, false trauma footy that they have massed is
Speaker 1: not the footy of today.
Speaker 4: Contest and clearance, the inability.
Speaker 1: To hit those kicks thwarts their efforts to be more
Speaker 1: than they want to be. So are they a team
Speaker 1: that can go on a run in the back part
Speaker 1: of the season.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: The body of work is now, if you measure it
Speaker 1: from Giants loss to Giants lost, there's twenty games, they're
Speaker 1: six and fourteen. If you refine that to the finals
Speaker 1: teams in those two years, they are one and eleven.
Speaker 1: That's the most damning and the average losing margin is
Speaker 1: twenty six points.
Speaker 2: And so that's a proper body of work.
Speaker 4: They can't turn that around like that.
Speaker 1: No, So this is the necessity for change. They're not
Speaker 1: going to recap If they're looking to recapture something, I
Speaker 1: don't think they are. But if they were, they're not
Speaker 1: going to recapture it. That's a long time. So what
Speaker 1: are they going to evolve into? And this is the
Speaker 1: most difficult challenge within the season. But we have seen
Speaker 1: a team be able to do that over six weeks Chess.
Speaker 2: And he needs to.
Speaker 1: So the specter of Graham Writer is very real. Is
Speaker 1: he comes in as the chief executive, it's his job
Speaker 1: to set this club up for what comes next. He
Speaker 1: comes with that Inmpromata from the board and he gets
Speaker 1: his hands on it at the end of the season.
Speaker 2: But he's doing all his work now.
Speaker 1: They've got list of decisions to make which were well
Speaker 1: illuminated by j Clark and David King.
Speaker 2: There is.
Speaker 1: He went into Collinwood's a team that was stifled by
Speaker 1: Celary cap He found a way, was really nimble. He
Speaker 1: didn't pull the whole thing apart. He was nimble with
Speaker 1: it and got his change and he changed the coach.
Speaker 1: He wasn't afraid to do that where he.
Speaker 2: Saw the need.
Speaker 1: So I suspect in the back twelve matches of the season,
Speaker 1: Michael Voss is going to need to prove that he
Speaker 1: can change this profile because what is there now is
Speaker 1: not going to work.
Speaker 3: No, because if we're here in so what was that
Speaker 3: round one to round eleven, If we're here at round
Speaker 3: twenty and they are still getting the bull inside forward
Speaker 3: fifty and eighteenth for converting, then he's under enormous pressure
Speaker 3: because he hasn't changed anything. And your point is well
Speaker 3: made about Simon Goodwin. You can change it. You've got
Speaker 3: to be bold and pre prepared to make change, and
Speaker 3: he has and it's fallen into place now, whether or
Speaker 3: not fundamentally they've got enough players to be able to
Speaker 3: play modern footy well that it might be problematic, and
Speaker 3: that might be an issue that Great Right has to
Speaker 3: address in a bigger way as this season unfolds.
Speaker 4: But it's all on cart now do something.
Speaker 2: The element that's what.
Speaker 1: I watched them is everything is hard for them, and
Speaker 1: what the French Open.
Speaker 2: Has just started.
Speaker 1: Every now and then they just need to blow an
Speaker 1: opponent off the court. They get into these long five
Speaker 1: setters with everyone other than the wild cards of West
Speaker 1: Coast and North Melbourn, which you really have to push
Speaker 1: those aside and they'll be able to pad their numbers
Speaker 1: there again.
Speaker 2: But that's not it. When they did turn in.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three they went on a scoring spree, they
Speaker 1: look destitute, they struggled against Destina, and then they went
Speaker 1: on a scoring spread and it opened them up and invigorated.
Speaker 1: It returned them to their natural state. I've always thought
Speaker 1: they traded away too much of their offense, their excitement
Speaker 1: in search of a more dependable defense. They weren't going
Speaker 1: to win it just being popcorn. But I reckon they
Speaker 1: tip their balance out and they've never really been able
Speaker 1: to on that balance again.
Speaker 2: Now would be a good time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're going to move on. I think Sam
Speaker 3: Walsh epitomizes all of that. Sam Walsh was a free spirited,
Speaker 3: hard running star of this competition who we thought, Wow,
Speaker 3: he's going to take them to the Promised Land. And
Speaker 3: now he looks to be a bit burdened to me,
Speaker 3: a bit way down and burdened.
Speaker 4: And it's all a bit hard, as you say, so let.
Speaker 3: Him be the catalyst for change. Free him and let
Speaker 3: him go and see what they can be.
Speaker 1: So another team at four and seven is the Sydney Swans.
Speaker 1: They returned to the MCG yesterday for the first time
Speaker 1: since Grand Final Day and they were dismal. They have
Speaker 1: issues on every front as the season slips away.
Speaker 7: Thing about the blood.
Speaker 4: Blood needs to pump, and the thing that pumps.
Speaker 2: Your blood is your heart.
Speaker 7: And I feel like they've played with broken.
Speaker 2: Hearts for most of the year.
Speaker 6: The Demons broke their spirit today they broke their heart
Speaker 6: and I think in doing so, have broken in any
Speaker 6: hope of them playing finals this year.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 6: Beaten badly. It's a fair four from grace for a
Speaker 6: team that were a darling to the competition last year.
Speaker 7: Spirit comes off players planning the way that everyone wants
Speaker 7: everyone to play.
Speaker 2: You know, your reward acts that your value, and we're
Speaker 2: not seeing enough of.
Speaker 7: Those acts that we do value, so then you can't
Speaker 7: reward or celebrate those.
Speaker 4: So we're going to get back to doing that. First,
Speaker 4: we're at round eleven.
Speaker 6: The team that played in the Grand Final last year
Speaker 6: in their season's over that they will not be playing finals.
Speaker 1: Recent history tells you that the heavily beaten runner up
Speaker 1: is it's a load to bear in the next season.
Speaker 1: I think Sydney thought the coaching change might prove invigorating
Speaker 1: and it hasn't done that.
Speaker 3: It's a load to bear for a premier as well, Jared,
Speaker 3: We've seen that in recent times.
Speaker 4: I've been on a backup.
Speaker 3: So there's a really interesting situation here because because they've
Speaker 3: had such great success with the way they've had on
Speaker 3: their succession planning, we've all been i think pretty generous
Speaker 3: in the way that we've had. We've seen this unfold
Speaker 3: with Tors you know, making the decision and Dean Cox
Speaker 3: being the man that steps up. So our sessman has
Speaker 3: been I think generous, whereas you know, the handover Port
Speaker 3: Adelaide hasn't even been made yet, and we've been pretty
Speaker 3: harsh and scathing. You get you on a handover to
Speaker 3: a man that's already been at the club for how
Speaker 3: many years? Therefore and seven Port Adelaide, So this is
Speaker 3: therefore and seven the Sydney Swans. And the conversation now
Speaker 3: is have you know, will doing Cox be able to
Speaker 3: have the impact on this side that the Sydney Swans want.
Speaker 4: Tough question hasn't been asked.
Speaker 3: Up too great, but it has to be now because
Speaker 3: this is a side who are paddling down twenty inside
Speaker 3: fifties on the week. This is a really bad loss,
Speaker 3: lost contested possession by twenty seven and lost uncontested by
Speaker 3: fifty nine. They go inside fifty they take seven marks.
Speaker 3: A week after Joela Mardy comes back into the side
Speaker 3: and gets suspended in the dying seconds and Justin mckinnoney
Speaker 3: does it. So you throw all that into the melting
Speaker 3: pops in the melting pot. That's enough for Deane Cox
Speaker 3: to you know, that's his week right there, trying to
Speaker 3: sort his way through that. And we've long suspected that
Speaker 3: this is a site of being driven largely large.
Speaker 4: That's sig unfair. They made the Grand Final.
Speaker 3: The five superstars have a massive say in impact on
Speaker 3: what they do and the bottom line is a golden
Speaker 3: and Papily haven't been there. That's forty percent of you,
Speaker 3: of your big guns, and that's exposed a tail. It's
Speaker 3: exposed a pretty big tail. I reckon and who knows
Speaker 3: what the impact of that loss has had. But they
Speaker 3: aren't anywhere near where they were.
Speaker 1: So their effort is conditional, which is something you wouldn't
Speaker 1: say about many Swan's teams. And Dean cox all Bar
Speaker 1: said yesterday that they threw the talent. Their discipline is
Speaker 1: poor as your point around a Marty is long absence,
Speaker 1: come back, needlessly suspended, McNerney needlessly suspended. Callum Mills has
Speaker 1: been missing forever, needlessly suspended.
Speaker 2: He's got himself a week on his return.
Speaker 1: So this goes to the overall scenario of where they
Speaker 1: are and they don't have the depth maybe not many
Speaker 1: teams do. They don't have the depth to cover the
Speaker 1: list of absentees, but it's the self inflicted ones that
Speaker 1: hurts you in a moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the captain who, through misadventure, has missed
Speaker 3: a lot of footy in recent times and he would
Speaker 3: have sat in that coach. In fact, he sat in
Speaker 3: the coaches box last week and watched the Amadi brain
Speaker 3: fade in the last minute and a half in the
Speaker 3: Mcinernie and would have heard everything that was said. Coaches
Speaker 3: boxes don't spare anyone, Jared, let me tell you. So
Speaker 3: he would have been acutely aware. And then he comes
Speaker 3: out and does that. Now it's clumsy, it's not well,
Speaker 3: it's almost as dumb as at Marty So and that's
Speaker 3: your captain of a footy club. So I'm sorry. There'll
Speaker 3: be no sympathy for Callum Mills tonight as a leader
Speaker 3: of a club who were in a hole and who
Speaker 3: the coach needs desperately to be out there doing everything right,
Speaker 3: not adding to the problems that he already had coming
Speaker 3: into the weekend.
Speaker 4: So that was poor.
Speaker 1: It's a big challenge for Dean Cox to get a
Speaker 1: hold of that. I wanted to ask you about the
Speaker 1: Hawthorne side of things. They've got this set of games
Speaker 1: while we try to figure out are they are.
Speaker 2: True contender or not.
Speaker 1: They failed pretty significantly against the benchmark lines on Saturday.
Speaker 7: Yea our bull use and skill you know, We regularly
Speaker 7: talk about, you know, being predictable to each other, and
Speaker 7: we didn't handle the occasion of today. We know playing
Speaker 7: against them, you're going to have to take your chances.
Speaker 7: We had a lot of chances to put some scoreboard
Speaker 7: pressure on and we missed opportunities going just the last
Speaker 7: key or the shot on goal. And if we could
Speaker 7: have put a bit of scoreboard pressure on and you think,
Speaker 7: you know, some other things might have changed in the game,
Speaker 7: but you know, overall we need to perform better than
Speaker 7: that to be the best.
Speaker 2: As I said, how did you come away?
Speaker 3: I've got a couple of issues I reckon. So they
Speaker 3: got slaughtered in their front half. So like you go
Speaker 3: through every individual matchup and you're asking Jack Dunstan a lot.
Speaker 3: So in the first in the first thirty seconds, he
Speaker 3: came out on a hard lead and thought he was
Speaker 3: going to market because he's in good form, and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, Jack Prayine just was right next to him,
Speaker 3: punched the ballay and he.
Speaker 4: Thought, since he's got me for pace, he's got me
Speaker 4: for strength.
Speaker 3: So he battled Joy a child didn't know what he's doing,
Speaker 3: like he's playing on Harris Andrews, whether or not he's
Speaker 3: been told to try and like Harris had just been
Speaker 3: given a whole ding by melksh In the week before,
Speaker 3: and whether Marbi was trying to play something other than that,
Speaker 3: but he just didn't go to the contest and Watson
Speaker 3: got slaughtered by Endsworth. So and then you've got Dylan
Speaker 3: Moore is off the ball. Jack Innovan's just going around.
Speaker 3: Thankfully McDonald's able to hit the school board. The other
Speaker 3: end of the ground is probably was you know, the
Speaker 3: Sicily performance was. I don't know what's going on with him,
Speaker 3: whether he's injured or not, and it's at some.
Speaker 4: Stage clubs if they are, they have to just say it.
Speaker 4: But he was all at sea and he was a
Speaker 4: big problem.
Speaker 3: Barris was trying to cover his man, trying to cover
Speaker 3: Sicily's man. He wasn't playing hard defense when he's never
Speaker 3: ever been the hard lockdown man, but there are times
Speaker 3: when you have to be. And Archie just took him
Speaker 3: to the cleaner sturit and game in the balance a
Speaker 3: couple of times he just didn't go with him, just
Speaker 3: let him go and Archie ran unattended into a goal square.
Speaker 4: So that's a bit of an issue. And then the
Speaker 4: other one he.
Speaker 3: Sent abount and clearance just to the second week in
Speaker 3: a row. So Sam Mitch was a smart man. You'll
Speaker 3: go to work on it, but I don't know where
Speaker 3: the fix is from a forurd a half point of view,
Speaker 3: he needs Dilan Moore to get back to that Australia
Speaker 3: and then the rest of them, well, they've got to
Speaker 3: turn around. It's asking too much of Jack Gunston. He
Speaker 3: might have fighted his best shots for the year. Jack,
Speaker 3: and that's no way being critical because that's what happens
Speaker 3: at this time of the year.
Speaker 4: He probably needs a break.
Speaker 3: But Kelsha Dear maybe in the wings, but there's good
Speaker 3: questions about him and I might get answered Friday.
Speaker 2: Night Pies, Dogs Crows, Well.
Speaker 3: They might get answered in three weeks and I think
Speaker 3: they'll rally that and what it does that sharpens them up.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, as king he might have alluded
Speaker 3: to if they've started to get a bit full of themselves,
Speaker 3: then where they are right now, that all gets parked
Speaker 3: and Sam Mitchell would be the man that takes that
Speaker 3: out of them. And then they go to the MCG
Speaker 3: Friday Night against a team that if you are if
Speaker 3: you've got inflated opinions of where you're at. Then they'll
Speaker 3: make you pay Collingwood big time. So bring it on
Speaker 3: Friday and we'll find out about the Hawks.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow night at the tribunal, Fremantle's captain Alex Pearce is
Speaker 1: facing a three match suspension for his collision that left
Speaker 1: Darcy Burne Jones with concussion.
Speaker 2: This is one of these dozen.
Speaker 1: Cases across a year where the question is oddly posed
Speaker 1: is what else could Alex Pierce have done? The disqualifier
Speaker 1: here has been Pierce wasn't contesting the ball at the
Speaker 1: moment of impacts. The complication in this is the player
Speaker 1: coming back with the flight.
Speaker 2: Of the ball.
Speaker 1: So when Pierce takes off his measurements, his trajectory is
Speaker 1: his assessments and how they are complicated by Burne Jones,
Speaker 1: who closes from the other way. Port Adelai's player gets
Speaker 1: to the ball first. Pierce arrives that he doesn't, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, brace turn flex in any way. I actually
Speaker 1: think he tries to stay as limp as he can
Speaker 1: to minimize the inevitable collision, but on the measure of
Speaker 1: he wasn't contesting the ball in the moment of impact.
Speaker 1: That's why he has been suspended.
Speaker 4: To this point. I find this one really difficult.
Speaker 3: I've normally got a pretty black and white view to this,
Speaker 3: which is probably not popular because I'm very pro looking
Speaker 3: after the head.
Speaker 4: But I think this is an arguable case.
Speaker 3: Alex Peerce was flat out going for the mark, going
Speaker 3: through the intercept the player comes into his vision. I
Speaker 3: don't think he covered up, jumped off the ground, tried
Speaker 3: to hit him in the head.
Speaker 4: I think he sort of left. I've slawd this down
Speaker 4: a hundred times.
Speaker 3: One stage he sort of half went to shoulder, then
Speaker 3: threw his arms back open again as if to say no,
Speaker 3: I will mark this, and then at.
Speaker 4: The point of impact. This is why it's so difficult.
Speaker 3: So I can wear that that's a footy accident, right,
Speaker 3: I think that case could be made. But the bottom
Speaker 3: line is you've got to cancust play. And if you
Speaker 3: read the front page of The Australian over the weekend,
Speaker 3: you'll understand implicitly why the league will err.
Speaker 4: On the side of caution. And that's not going to
Speaker 4: sit well with a lot.
Speaker 3: Of the former players in the media. And I'll go
Speaker 3: to school on it because but this one I think
Speaker 3: is right in the margins.
Speaker 1: Yes, so, And this is where Alex Pierce is intelligent
Speaker 1: and articulate. He will have to explain each step of
Speaker 1: the way, and he's one of the players who is
Speaker 1: likely to be able to do that. And then he's
Speaker 1: got to persuade a panel of previous players as to
Speaker 1: when he took off he legitimately thought he was a
Speaker 1: chance to take the mark. He actually does arrive at
Speaker 1: the drop zone to take the mark, it's just Burne
Speaker 1: Jones coming from the other direction, beats him there.
Speaker 2: And then I do.
Speaker 1: Think I think he tries to go as limp as
Speaker 1: he can to minimize what becomes an inevitable.
Speaker 3: That's a good point because he you slow the frames
Speaker 3: down as I did today about three steps earlier, his
Speaker 3: arm right arms comes across as if to say, well,
Speaker 3: I'll cover up here, and then he'd be in all
Speaker 3: sorts of trouble. But then whether he's quick enough to
Speaker 3: compute that that's not going to work. But then threw
Speaker 3: himself back open. Yep, maybe that works.
Speaker 1: Can he articulate that of the tribunal tomorrow night and
Speaker 1: be persuasive that's the way to be to charge like.
Speaker 4: Patrick Daneyfield advantage to do that, so go for your life.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Let's bring in the coach, say Justin Longmuir, who was
Speaker 1: forceful in his defense in the post match, so we'll
Speaker 1: get an insight into the state of mind of Alex
Speaker 1: Pearce and the defense case. And Adam Kingsley, who's been
Speaker 1: brilliant with us on Coaches Night a couple of years now.
Speaker 1: So Freemantle and the Giants represented thingst Where are you
Speaker 1: just looking at me?