1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Premantle takes it's captain's case to the tribunal. The coach 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: was forceful in his defense postmatch. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Justin Longyure is with us tonight. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 3: The pressure bules as the performances won't come for Carlton 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 3: and Sydney. 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 4: What's at the core of their poor. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: For and Giants superstar Toby Green turned in one of 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: his best to mark game two point fifty. 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: Adam Kingsley is with us on Coaches Nights. 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 4: We've talked about his step into it, debrace all. 11 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Of it in the room and reason it's unedifying for 12 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: a senior coach to do that. 13 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 4: They're on the side of Courtia with the brain, take. 14 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 2: The man on. They played the best footy I've. 15 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: Ever seen at the start of the season, and In 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: said president left the couple older said. 17 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: Of course they do. It is the stuff that legends 18 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: are made of. 19 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 4: What is holding the ball? 20 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 3: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now 21 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 3: that I could do something. 22 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: Wrong, you know, And I need to get on the board. 23 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: Sacks meet the fans, lover and with no fans, no 24 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: through sixty. 25 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 4: Year old. 26 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: The angles off round eleven about to play out here 27 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: on three sixty Gas I was thinking of you as 28 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: I watching Melbourne last night in that last quarter in 29 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: the fans' hearts going so well, you never want a 30 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: quarter to end. But as it ticked into the fortieth. 31 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: Minutes of Home on going, we've been making the case 32 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 3: for this for a long time, and a forty minute quarter, 33 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: if you don't mind, ad is a farce and that 34 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: is ridiculous. And there were thirteen goals kicked. I did 35 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: some calculations that took us to twenty nine minutes or something, 36 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: so a couple of stoppages here and there, you get 37 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: off at thirty two thirty nine minutes. Jared, I don't 38 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 3: want to start on a negative, but that's a joke. 39 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 4: That's just a joke. Much Our game is not a 40 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 4: forty minute quarter of footage. 41 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: It was very odd. 42 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: The game finished about thirty minutes past six. That is 43 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: bursting your time slot by a big damn straight. It 44 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: is all right, here's all we've got lined up for 45 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: you tonight. We'll go through the events of round eleven 46 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: and our coach is just along and Adam Kingsley. Then 47 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: we'll hand over on the couch Jack Revolt with Jordan 48 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: Bucks and Brownie to cast the opinions tell you how 49 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: it all unfolded. 50 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: Tomorrow nights two of. 51 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: The most decorated players in the game, Locke Neil and 52 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: Toby Green. We've got a long list for Razor's Edge, 53 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: and that's before we even confer together. And John Longmi 54 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: Adam Simpson to make a smarter on Wednesday night, and 55 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: as the King's Birthday clash comes into serning off duty. 56 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: I know it's going to join all right. 57 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,559 Speaker 1: Every Monday Night starts with the casting of the GVPS, 58 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: the votes for the most valuable players from the round 59 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: in the estimation of just one man, Gary Lyne, and 60 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: it is for the most sought after prize in footy, 61 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: which we have taken out on the road, the Mustang 62 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: GT Fastback, valued at ninety three thousand dollars. Iconic design, 63 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: unreal performance, five of the eight engine responsibility. 64 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: Has not lost on me every time I look at this. 65 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: When you and I went out and took around pre track, 66 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 3: got it up to about forty three. 67 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: It's a magnificent vehicle. 68 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: And Jeremy Cameron gets another vote, so he's a vote 69 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 3: closer to winning. He's kicked six and seven in the 70 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 3: last two weeks big game. One of the best games 71 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: of recent times, and this separates the good players from 72 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: the great Jared and without Paddy Dangerfield again in this side, 73 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: Bailey Smith doing his stuff, but someone had to finish 74 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: it all off, and big jezz I just got it 75 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: done again. 76 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: Another six have been beaten by Rory Love at their 77 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: most recent meeting. 78 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: Do you think he took it personally? 79 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if Jeremy's that sort. He doesn't. He's 80 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 4: sort of that laconic. 81 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: Maybe he is deep down, but he's just he just 82 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: gave Laura a nice one there, So well done to Jez. 83 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: I love sing that too. Thankfully he's coming up tomorrow night. 84 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: Toby Green. 85 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: I love this Jared, because their side was a bit 86 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: of a precarious position. He's the captain. Finn Callahan goes out, 87 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: it's his milestone game. He says, listen, I'll go into 88 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: the middle and sort it out. And he's had ten 89 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: in the first quarter. He actually had eleven in the 90 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: first quarter, kick two goals and just set it in motion. 91 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: And then if there's any doubt in the end, he's 92 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: had another eight in the last quarter and kicked another goal. 93 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: So this is what I love. 94 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: About players like Jeremy Cameron and Bailey Smith. On big occasions, 95 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: you step up and you get the job done. And 96 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: so there was well in the end, there was no 97 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: other way for Toby to finish that game then be 98 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: carried off as a winner. 99 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: Yep, perfect who got the three causey picking. 100 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: So it's a bit like Isaac Keeney last week. He 101 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: had one of those games you just you know, you 102 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: can't argue against. 103 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 4: And I did tell everyone at the start of the season. 104 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: And he had. 105 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 3: He just for a little pat on the back, he's 106 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: going to be a top five or top ten praying 107 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: in the comps. 108 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: So welcome aboard everyone. He is in rare form. 109 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: He had thirteen score involvements stared and the other beauty 110 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: of it is he had six clearances and three of 111 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: them in the center bounce. That's some sort of player 112 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: when you can do that, you can kick five goals 113 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: for and have center bounces and set everyone else up. 114 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: So because he's in rare nick So this is. 115 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: The reason why no traders change. 116 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 4: You don't trade away you're rare, rare, rare talent. 117 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: And he's got two years to go on a contract 118 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: and hopefully thinking, well, I'm sure they'll get to work 119 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: between now and then and I'll try and lock him 120 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: away from about ten. 121 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: All right, five votes for Cozy Toby, Greens on the 122 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: move and Patrick Dangerfield is still our leader the GVPS. 123 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to at the top of the 124 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: agenda is Carlton, who again frustratingly find themselves at four 125 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: and seven at the by. It's creating a familiar sense 126 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: of despondency. 127 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: It's a Veray couple of retirement. 128 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, it has Yeah. 129 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 5: Look, I mean I think this is the chance to regenerate. 130 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: It's also chance to. 131 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 5: Have a look at the way we're playing and dissected 132 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 5: a bit. 133 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: Well, a lot of. 134 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 4: You condemned to read I'm saying that the Blue I 135 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: mean we have. 136 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: A loud. 137 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: I think this list needs an absolute examination. 138 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: It needs a blow torch damning result. 139 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: I think for the Carton Footy Club, given Kim Callahan 140 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: wasn't in that side, they're skinny through the middle of 141 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 3: the ground. Really good win for the Giants against the 142 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: odds and that might kicks out there season. 143 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: But the Blues are going to be a bit of 144 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: a story coming up this season. Continues to cough and 145 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 4: splutter around towards. 146 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 6: Handed a dream dra or an unbelievably soft drawl. 147 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: So that is where the expectation goes up. Carlton fans 148 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: be pulling their hair out. What has happened to this 149 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 4: football team? 150 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: You can play finals and make the over, but you 151 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: can't win. 152 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: Flat with it? 153 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 4: Is that well, you've got to set to win the premiership. 154 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 7: They are If they think this is the premiership list, 155 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 7: then roll on. 156 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: But I don't know if they do. 157 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 5: Drifting into September right now, as you can imagine it, 158 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 5: probably the furthest thing from my mind is taking a break, 159 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 5: getting a rest, coming back together, putting the problem on 160 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 5: the table, solving it. 161 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: Together collectively as a group. 162 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 5: Resetting ourselves and bringing new energy and getting after it. 163 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: And that's what we'll do. 164 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 5: Thank you. 165 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: Michael Voss. 166 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: He diagnosed that it's time to dissects the way that 167 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: the Blues are playing. No team confounds me more. They 168 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: elude me, They confuse me. It feels like being yeah, 169 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: right at the heart of it is where you started 170 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: in March. Is there a flaw in the core of 171 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: their being the live on Street butchers that undermines everything 172 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: else that they're trying to achieve. 173 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 4: It was around one or two, very early in the season. 174 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: They are still the worst kicking team in the competition today. 175 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: So you start at that and you're still adeen. 176 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: Everything you're trying to achieve in between gets compromised, Jared. 177 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: So they have made some improvements in the way they 178 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: can get the footy from one end to the other. 179 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: They are getting good looks inside fifty. What happens once 180 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: they go inside fifty is the massive problem for this 181 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 3: football club right now. These are the butcherings that we 182 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: talk about. So you coach your socks off if you want, 183 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: but if you players can't fundamentally fulfill the number one premise, 184 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: If you can't kick in this competition in this day 185 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: and age, you ain't going anywhere, Jared. And they can't kick, 186 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: and that's a broad sweeping statement. Eighteenth at round one 187 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: or two, they're eighteenth at Reeve und eleven and they're 188 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: in the mire again for this reason. And then we'll 189 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: extrapolate it out of it because when you go wider 190 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: than this and you have a look at all of that, 191 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: I don't care who you are. If you can't kick, 192 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: you're you're just not going anywhere. So then you go right, 193 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: well the ball movement stuff has got better, and they 194 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: go okay, I think there are at number three for 195 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: getting the ball inside fifty. So yeah, okay, that's a 196 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: good thing because you've got the two big pillars. What 197 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: happens when you go in there, it's a disaster, Jared. 198 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: It's a disaster when they go inside forward fifty. And 199 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: it reflects very similar to what a team I break for. 200 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: We're doing for a long long time, and that is 201 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 3: playing predictable, boring, long inside fifty. Charlie and Harry all 202 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: sorted out. They're number eighteen in the competition Jared. 203 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: So this is where Melbourne were eight weeks ago. The 204 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: commonalities are striking. 205 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 4: It is it is so you go back and have 206 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: a look at it. 207 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: And the first five matches, so from a Melbourne point 208 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: of view, they could get the ball from one end 209 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: of the other. But for scores prince side fifty they 210 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: were at that stage. 211 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 4: My eyes are deceiving me. They were eighteen. 212 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: The last six matches they go d fifty to inside 213 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 3: fifty the same amount. 214 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: They're fourth. 215 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 3: This is what coaches must be able to do otherwise 216 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: the pressure comes, and we talked about Simon Good and 217 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: coaching his way out of the play. 218 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 4: This is what we're talking about. 219 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 3: Okay, First, the first six games or five matches disaster. 220 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: Change the way you play, change your makeup. Don't forget 221 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: these numbers. Here scores. 222 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: Prince side fifty four is with Harry Petty and Aidan Johnson, 223 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: a young man who's trying to so they drop Van Ruyin. 224 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 3: Change is good, Drop Van Ruin, drop Rich. You can't 225 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: keep doing the same thing over and over. Change is good. 226 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: So all of a sudden they go to number four 227 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: with Aiden Johnson and Harry Petty. It's because the way 228 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: they move the footy third fastest ball movement team over 229 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 3: the last six weeks between Gold behind Gold Coast and Geelong. 230 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 4: So change something. 231 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: So Carlton, exactly where they were at the start. 232 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: I don't have to sit here at round one saying 233 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: you're the worst kick and turn the competition. You're predictable 234 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: going inside fifty, and now we sit here and go 235 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: you're still the worst kicking team in the competition and 236 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: you can't score when you go inside fifty. With Charlie 237 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 3: Kurna and Harry Kai inside fifty. So this is where 238 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: you can take over because I don't get two heated. 239 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: But now they sit there at the by where Vossi says, 240 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: we've got to have a look at it. Well, yeah, 241 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: we have a look at it and say the way 242 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: we're playing ain't modern footy. 243 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 4: It's not doing it. 244 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: Maybe having Charlie and Harry inside forward fifty, he just says, 245 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: we'll try and get everything else and then we get 246 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 3: to that end, we'll kick it to Charlie and Harry. 247 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: That's not working. That's not working. So maybe they look 248 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: at Charlie up high. Maybe they look at him as 249 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: a winger. Maybe that's how he's a bloke that can 250 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 3: kick the footy inside forward fifty. But it's over to 251 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: Graham right now. He's sitting back observing all of this. Jared, 252 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: and these are all the discussions are going to be 253 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: had in the coming weeks. 254 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: So the challenge I find washing them is could they 255 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: be better? Should they be better? Are they a whisker. 256 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: Away or are they a mile away? 257 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: The blunt, false trauma footy that they have massed is 258 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: not the footy of today. 259 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 4: Contest and clearance, the inability. 260 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: To hit those kicks thwarts their efforts to be more 261 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: than they want to be. So are they a team 262 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: that can go on a run in the back part 263 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: of the season. 264 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: No. 265 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: The body of work is now, if you measure it 266 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: from Giants loss to Giants lost, there's twenty games, they're 267 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: six and fourteen. If you refine that to the finals 268 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: teams in those two years, they are one and eleven. 269 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: That's the most damning and the average losing margin is 270 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: twenty six points. 271 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 2: And so that's a proper body of work. 272 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 4: They can't turn that around like that. 273 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: No, So this is the necessity for change. They're not 274 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: going to recap If they're looking to recapture something, I 275 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: don't think they are. But if they were, they're not 276 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: going to recapture it. That's a long time. So what 277 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: are they going to evolve into? And this is the 278 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: most difficult challenge within the season. But we have seen 279 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: a team be able to do that over six weeks Chess. 280 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: And he needs to. 281 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: So the specter of Graham Writer is very real. Is 282 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: he comes in as the chief executive, it's his job 283 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: to set this club up for what comes next. He 284 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: comes with that Inmpromata from the board and he gets 285 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: his hands on it at the end of the season. 286 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: But he's doing all his work now. 287 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: They've got list of decisions to make which were well 288 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: illuminated by j Clark and David King. 289 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: There is. 290 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: He went into Collinwood's a team that was stifled by 291 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: Celary cap He found a way, was really nimble. He 292 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: didn't pull the whole thing apart. He was nimble with 293 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: it and got his change and he changed the coach. 294 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: He wasn't afraid to do that where he. 295 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: Saw the need. 296 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: So I suspect in the back twelve matches of the season, 297 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: Michael Voss is going to need to prove that he 298 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: can change this profile because what is there now is 299 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: not going to work. 300 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 3: No, because if we're here in so what was that 301 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: round one to round eleven, If we're here at round 302 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: twenty and they are still getting the bull inside forward 303 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: fifty and eighteenth for converting, then he's under enormous pressure 304 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: because he hasn't changed anything. And your point is well 305 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: made about Simon Goodwin. You can change it. You've got 306 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: to be bold and pre prepared to make change, and 307 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: he has and it's fallen into place now, whether or 308 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: not fundamentally they've got enough players to be able to 309 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 3: play modern footy well that it might be problematic, and 310 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: that might be an issue that Great Right has to 311 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: address in a bigger way as this season unfolds. 312 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 4: But it's all on cart now do something. 313 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 2: The element that's what. 314 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: I watched them is everything is hard for them, and 315 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: what the French Open. 316 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: Has just started. 317 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: Every now and then they just need to blow an 318 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: opponent off the court. They get into these long five 319 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: setters with everyone other than the wild cards of West 320 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: Coast and North Melbourn, which you really have to push 321 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: those aside and they'll be able to pad their numbers 322 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: there again. 323 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: But that's not it. When they did turn in. 324 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three they went on a scoring spree, they 325 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: look destitute, they struggled against Destina, and then they went 326 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: on a scoring spread and it opened them up and invigorated. 327 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: It returned them to their natural state. I've always thought 328 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: they traded away too much of their offense, their excitement 329 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: in search of a more dependable defense. They weren't going 330 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: to win it just being popcorn. But I reckon they 331 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: tip their balance out and they've never really been able 332 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: to on that balance again. 333 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: Now would be a good time. 334 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're going to move on. I think Sam 335 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: Walsh epitomizes all of that. Sam Walsh was a free spirited, 336 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: hard running star of this competition who we thought, Wow, 337 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: he's going to take them to the Promised Land. And 338 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 3: now he looks to be a bit burdened to me, 339 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: a bit way down and burdened. 340 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 4: And it's all a bit hard, as you say, so let. 341 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: Him be the catalyst for change. Free him and let 342 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: him go and see what they can be. 343 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: So another team at four and seven is the Sydney Swans. 344 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: They returned to the MCG yesterday for the first time 345 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: since Grand Final Day and they were dismal. They have 346 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: issues on every front as the season slips away. 347 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 7: Thing about the blood. 348 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: Blood needs to pump, and the thing that pumps. 349 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: Your blood is your heart. 350 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 7: And I feel like they've played with broken. 351 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: Hearts for most of the year. 352 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 6: The Demons broke their spirit today they broke their heart 353 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 6: and I think in doing so, have broken in any 354 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 6: hope of them playing finals this year. 355 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: I think. 356 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 6: Beaten badly. It's a fair four from grace for a 357 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 6: team that were a darling to the competition last year. 358 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 7: Spirit comes off players planning the way that everyone wants 359 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 7: everyone to play. 360 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: You know, your reward acts that your value, and we're 361 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 2: not seeing enough of. 362 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 7: Those acts that we do value, so then you can't 363 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 7: reward or celebrate those. 364 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 4: So we're going to get back to doing that. First, 365 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 4: we're at round eleven. 366 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 6: The team that played in the Grand Final last year 367 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 6: in their season's over that they will not be playing finals. 368 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: Recent history tells you that the heavily beaten runner up 369 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: is it's a load to bear in the next season. 370 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,479 Speaker 1: I think Sydney thought the coaching change might prove invigorating 371 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: and it hasn't done that. 372 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: It's a load to bear for a premier as well, Jared, 373 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: We've seen that in recent times. 374 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 4: I've been on a backup. 375 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: So there's a really interesting situation here because because they've 376 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: had such great success with the way they've had on 377 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: their succession planning, we've all been i think pretty generous 378 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: in the way that we've had. We've seen this unfold 379 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: with Tors you know, making the decision and Dean Cox 380 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 3: being the man that steps up. So our sessman has 381 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: been I think generous, whereas you know, the handover Port 382 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: Adelaide hasn't even been made yet, and we've been pretty 383 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: harsh and scathing. You get you on a handover to 384 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: a man that's already been at the club for how 385 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: many years? Therefore and seven Port Adelaide, So this is 386 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: therefore and seven the Sydney Swans. And the conversation now 387 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: is have you know, will doing Cox be able to 388 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: have the impact on this side that the Sydney Swans want. 389 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 4: Tough question hasn't been asked. 390 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: Up too great, but it has to be now because 391 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: this is a side who are paddling down twenty inside 392 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: fifties on the week. This is a really bad loss, 393 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: lost contested possession by twenty seven and lost uncontested by 394 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: fifty nine. They go inside fifty they take seven marks. 395 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 3: A week after Joela Mardy comes back into the side 396 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: and gets suspended in the dying seconds and Justin mckinnoney 397 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: does it. So you throw all that into the melting 398 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: pops in the melting pot. That's enough for Deane Cox 399 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: to you know, that's his week right there, trying to 400 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 3: sort his way through that. And we've long suspected that 401 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: this is a site of being driven largely large. 402 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 4: That's sig unfair. They made the Grand Final. 403 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: The five superstars have a massive say in impact on 404 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: what they do and the bottom line is a golden 405 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: and Papily haven't been there. That's forty percent of you, 406 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: of your big guns, and that's exposed a tail. It's 407 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 3: exposed a pretty big tail. I reckon and who knows 408 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 3: what the impact of that loss has had. But they 409 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: aren't anywhere near where they were. 410 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: So their effort is conditional, which is something you wouldn't 411 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: say about many Swan's teams. And Dean cox all Bar 412 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: said yesterday that they threw the talent. Their discipline is 413 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: poor as your point around a Marty is long absence, 414 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: come back, needlessly suspended, McNerney needlessly suspended. Callum Mills has 415 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: been missing forever, needlessly suspended. 416 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: He's got himself a week on his return. 417 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 1: So this goes to the overall scenario of where they 418 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: are and they don't have the depth maybe not many 419 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: teams do. They don't have the depth to cover the 420 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: list of absentees, but it's the self inflicted ones that 421 00:17:59,000 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: hurts you in a moment. 422 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the captain who, through misadventure, has missed 423 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 3: a lot of footy in recent times and he would 424 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: have sat in that coach. In fact, he sat in 425 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: the coaches box last week and watched the Amadi brain 426 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: fade in the last minute and a half in the 427 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: Mcinernie and would have heard everything that was said. Coaches 428 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: boxes don't spare anyone, Jared, let me tell you. So 429 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: he would have been acutely aware. And then he comes 430 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: out and does that. Now it's clumsy, it's not well, 431 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 3: it's almost as dumb as at Marty So and that's 432 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 3: your captain of a footy club. So I'm sorry. There'll 433 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 3: be no sympathy for Callum Mills tonight as a leader 434 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 3: of a club who were in a hole and who 435 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: the coach needs desperately to be out there doing everything right, 436 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 3: not adding to the problems that he already had coming 437 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 3: into the weekend. 438 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 4: So that was poor. 439 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: It's a big challenge for Dean Cox to get a 440 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: hold of that. I wanted to ask you about the 441 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: Hawthorne side of things. They've got this set of games 442 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: while we try to figure out are they are. 443 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 2: True contender or not. 444 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: They failed pretty significantly against the benchmark lines on Saturday. 445 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 7: Yea our bull use and skill you know, We regularly 446 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 7: talk about, you know, being predictable to each other, and 447 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 7: we didn't handle the occasion of today. We know playing 448 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 7: against them, you're going to have to take your chances. 449 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 7: We had a lot of chances to put some scoreboard 450 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 7: pressure on and we missed opportunities going just the last 451 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 7: key or the shot on goal. And if we could 452 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 7: have put a bit of scoreboard pressure on and you think, 453 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 7: you know, some other things might have changed in the game, 454 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 7: but you know, overall we need to perform better than 455 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 7: that to be the best. 456 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: As I said, how did you come away? 457 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: I've got a couple of issues I reckon. So they 458 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: got slaughtered in their front half. So like you go 459 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: through every individual matchup and you're asking Jack Dunstan a lot. 460 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: So in the first in the first thirty seconds, he 461 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 3: came out on a hard lead and thought he was 462 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 3: going to market because he's in good form, and all 463 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 3: of a sudden, Jack Prayine just was right next to him, 464 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: punched the ballay and he. 465 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 4: Thought, since he's got me for pace, he's got me 466 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 4: for strength. 467 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 3: So he battled Joy a child didn't know what he's doing, 468 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: like he's playing on Harris Andrews, whether or not he's 469 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: been told to try and like Harris had just been 470 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 3: given a whole ding by melksh In the week before, 471 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: and whether Marbi was trying to play something other than that, 472 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: but he just didn't go to the contest and Watson 473 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 3: got slaughtered by Endsworth. So and then you've got Dylan 474 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 3: Moore is off the ball. Jack Innovan's just going around. 475 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 3: Thankfully McDonald's able to hit the school board. The other 476 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 3: end of the ground is probably was you know, the 477 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: Sicily performance was. I don't know what's going on with him, 478 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: whether he's injured or not, and it's at some. 479 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 4: Stage clubs if they are, they have to just say it. 480 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 4: But he was all at sea and he was a 481 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 4: big problem. 482 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: Barris was trying to cover his man, trying to cover 483 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 3: Sicily's man. He wasn't playing hard defense when he's never 484 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 3: ever been the hard lockdown man, but there are times 485 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: when you have to be. And Archie just took him 486 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 3: to the cleaner sturit and game in the balance a 487 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 3: couple of times he just didn't go with him, just 488 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: let him go and Archie ran unattended into a goal square. 489 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 4: So that's a bit of an issue. And then the 490 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 4: other one he. 491 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 3: Sent abount and clearance just to the second week in 492 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 3: a row. So Sam Mitch was a smart man. You'll 493 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: go to work on it, but I don't know where 494 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: the fix is from a forurd a half point of view, 495 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: he needs Dilan Moore to get back to that Australia 496 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 3: and then the rest of them, well, they've got to 497 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 3: turn around. It's asking too much of Jack Gunston. He 498 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 3: might have fighted his best shots for the year. Jack, 499 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: and that's no way being critical because that's what happens 500 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 3: at this time of the year. 501 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: He probably needs a break. 502 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 3: But Kelsha Dear maybe in the wings, but there's good 503 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: questions about him and I might get answered Friday. 504 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: Night Pies, Dogs Crows, Well. 505 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 3: They might get answered in three weeks and I think 506 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: they'll rally that and what it does that sharpens them up. 507 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: I think, you know, as king he might have alluded 508 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 3: to if they've started to get a bit full of themselves, 509 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: then where they are right now, that all gets parked 510 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: and Sam Mitchell would be the man that takes that 511 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: out of them. And then they go to the MCG 512 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: Friday Night against a team that if you are if 513 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: you've got inflated opinions of where you're at. Then they'll 514 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: make you pay Collingwood big time. So bring it on 515 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 3: Friday and we'll find out about the Hawks. 516 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: Tomorrow night at the tribunal, Fremantle's captain Alex Pearce is 517 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: facing a three match suspension for his collision that left 518 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: Darcy Burne Jones with concussion. 519 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: This is one of these dozen. 520 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: Cases across a year where the question is oddly posed 521 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: is what else could Alex Pierce have done? The disqualifier 522 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: here has been Pierce wasn't contesting the ball at the 523 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: moment of impacts. The complication in this is the player 524 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: coming back with the flight. 525 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: Of the ball. 526 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: So when Pierce takes off his measurements, his trajectory is 527 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: his assessments and how they are complicated by Burne Jones, 528 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: who closes from the other way. Port Adelai's player gets 529 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: to the ball first. Pierce arrives that he doesn't, in 530 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: my opinion, brace turn flex in any way. I actually 531 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: think he tries to stay as limp as he can 532 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: to minimize the inevitable collision, but on the measure of 533 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: he wasn't contesting the ball in the moment of impact. 534 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: That's why he has been suspended. 535 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: To this point. I find this one really difficult. 536 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 3: I've normally got a pretty black and white view to this, 537 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: which is probably not popular because I'm very pro looking 538 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: after the head. 539 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 4: But I think this is an arguable case. 540 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 3: Alex Peerce was flat out going for the mark, going 541 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 3: through the intercept the player comes into his vision. I 542 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 3: don't think he covered up, jumped off the ground, tried 543 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 3: to hit him in the head. 544 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: I think he sort of left. I've slawd this down 545 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: a hundred times. 546 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: One stage he sort of half went to shoulder, then 547 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: threw his arms back open again as if to say no, 548 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 3: I will mark this, and then at. 549 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 4: The point of impact. This is why it's so difficult. 550 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: So I can wear that that's a footy accident, right, 551 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 3: I think that case could be made. But the bottom 552 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 3: line is you've got to cancust play. And if you 553 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 3: read the front page of The Australian over the weekend, 554 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: you'll understand implicitly why the league will err. 555 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 4: On the side of caution. And that's not going to 556 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 4: sit well with a lot. 557 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: Of the former players in the media. And I'll go 558 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 3: to school on it because but this one I think 559 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 3: is right in the margins. 560 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: Yes, so, And this is where Alex Pierce is intelligent 561 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: and articulate. He will have to explain each step of 562 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: the way, and he's one of the players who is 563 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: likely to be able to do that. And then he's 564 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: got to persuade a panel of previous players as to 565 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: when he took off he legitimately thought he was a 566 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: chance to take the mark. He actually does arrive at 567 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: the drop zone to take the mark, it's just Burne 568 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: Jones coming from the other direction, beats him there. 569 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: And then I do. 570 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: Think I think he tries to go as limp as 571 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: he can to minimize what becomes an inevitable. 572 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 3: That's a good point because he you slow the frames 573 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 3: down as I did today about three steps earlier, his 574 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: arm right arms comes across as if to say, well, 575 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 3: I'll cover up here, and then he'd be in all 576 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 3: sorts of trouble. But then whether he's quick enough to 577 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 3: compute that that's not going to work. But then threw 578 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: himself back open. Yep, maybe that works. 579 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: Can he articulate that of the tribunal tomorrow night and 580 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: be persuasive that's the way to be to charge like. 581 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 4: Patrick Daneyfield advantage to do that, so go for your life. 582 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: All right. 583 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: Let's bring in the coach, say Justin Longmuir, who was 584 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: forceful in his defense in the post match, so we'll 585 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: get an insight into the state of mind of Alex 586 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: Pearce and the defense case. And Adam Kingsley, who's been 587 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: brilliant with us on Coaches Night a couple of years now. 588 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: So Freemantle and the Giants represented thingst Where are you 589 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: just looking at me?