1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to the FITZI and Whip a podcast. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: We are celebrating the life of Queen Elizabeth Ion. This 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 2: morning three point thirty, we received the news that she 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: had passed away and one man who had worked for 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: the royal family as a butler for a very long 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: time is Grant. Harold Grant, you beautiful man. Thanks for 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 2: joining us. 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Mate, are you mate? 9 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 3: We always love to chat. You're a friend of the show, 10 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: you're also a personal friend, and it's an honor to 11 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: have you on the show. It would be better to 12 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: be talking at different times or under different circumstances, but 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: at the same time, we're celebrating the Queen today as 14 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: we look back on her seventy years of rain. 15 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bet of a I think everyone will 16 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: be here still in a bit of shot. Actually, I 17 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: think we're even myself. I've just been I've just taken 18 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: a break from doing interviews and just watching the news 19 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: myself for the fust pay And yeah, I think just 20 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: a bit of a shot that this is actually happened. 21 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: You know, those day is going to come and then 22 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: suddenly here we are. You know, suddenly she's gone. 23 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: Obviously you worked, it's a royal family and alongside, but 24 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 3: had some personal connections within the royal family as well. 25 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: We wanted to talk as we celebrate. Also, we were 26 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 3: talking earlier about the dance that you once shared with 27 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: the Queen. Can you talk us through that beautiful moment. 28 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: It's really funny because I've always been talking about this 29 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: today and so many people haven't had the study, which 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: I thought would have at his point. But I remember 31 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: when I was a youngster, I watched the documentary about 32 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: the royal family and there was a scene we used 33 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: other queen dances and I said to my late father, 34 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: how do you get to dance to the queen? How 35 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: do you get to be around the queen? And he said, 36 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: you either marry into the family or you worked for them. 37 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: And I quite said, as we thought, who could I 38 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: marry and realized that that obviously maybe wasn't such a 39 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: clever a clever move. But then I wrote, I wrote 40 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: to the Queen. I wrote two letters to her. I 41 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: even sent a picture so you know what I looked like, 42 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: and basically said one day I will come to work 43 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: for you. And obviously didn't quite harm with that because 44 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: I went to be a butler first, son. But what's 45 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: the extraordinary is that about eleven years from the day 46 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: of watching this program, I was at the Model Castle. 47 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: I was in the ballroom. I was at the very 48 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: same ball at seeing this program. I was dancing with 49 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: as she was then the Dutch of Como. And when 50 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: we were dancing, the Duchess said, oh, Grant, you look 51 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: you look quite nervous. You look quite scared. And I said, 52 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: because of this dream that happened I was youngster. I said, 53 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: here I am And I said, I think we're going 54 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: to dance the Queen to night. And she said, there's 55 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty people in this room. It's highly 56 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: unlike the Queen would dance with you. At which point 57 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: we finished dancing. That just kind of made this sound 58 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: as if oh, I thought I stud in her feet 59 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: of something. And I looked down and I hadn't. And 60 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: then I turned around and then I jumped oh. And 61 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: then behind was the Queen and she put her hands 62 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: up to dance and then went into real and it 63 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: was it was amazing. But she was just such an 64 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: amazing She was just such an amazing She was just 65 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: such an amazing character. I've got so many memories with her, 66 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: and I even remember one occasion that I remember why 67 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: what happened? I remember kind of running down a corridor. 68 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: With her, running down the corridor. 69 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I remember that one year squad. I can't 70 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: remember what I was doing, but I was. I was 71 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: doing something and she she she started kind of running. 72 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: Can you believe this? And Anda was trying to keep 73 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: up with her as we were run it, And I'm thinking, 74 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: nobody's going to believe that. I've actually been kind of 75 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: pained a kind of very fast walks last run with 76 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: the Queen. 77 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: The Queen run, well, I. 78 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: Have, and I'll tell you it was a job to 79 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: keep up with her. 80 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: I feel like grant that she wanted, I mean, living 81 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: in a bubble like that in the royal family and 82 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: not being connected with I mean, she went out and 83 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: did engagements with the public, but you know, you, you 84 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: guys that were there with her the whole time, you 85 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: would have seen a different side of her where she 86 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: wanted to interact with you guys and have conversations. Did 87 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 2: you have moments like that where she would just come 88 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: over and chat to you. 89 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember being at a Buckingham palace one of 90 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: the garden parties, and she came over, you have you 91 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: seen the flowers and we were kind of thinking, sorry, 92 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: because expect the queen, So you have you looked at 93 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: the gardens and we were like, no, not not quite 94 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: and she said, well covid and have a look look 95 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: at the border. The roads to looking amazing. And it 96 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: was really funny because it was sudden, like you know, 97 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: you can't say, oh, i'll look later, trot you know, 98 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: in the direction of the queen's point. But no, there 99 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: was there was many I mean I could bow you guys, 100 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: for I was with them. I mean, there was many 101 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: things that used to happen. I remember once being a 102 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: horse on the memorals, always at the Morrow weirdly, weirdly, 103 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 1: but the memorial stay. And I was riding this horse 104 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: and came with a few others and the Queen suddenly 105 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: appeared and some one of us, whatever reason, decided to 106 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: bow on a horse, which was she just good on us, said, 107 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: what a bunch of idiots, You know, we can really 108 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: there was something. We had some sort of problems walking 109 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: at Why are you trying to. 110 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 3: Lean under your horse? You're about to head by it? 111 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: Do you know what? 112 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: I love Grant though by the stories that you're telling, 113 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: it sounded like there was obviously two sides to the Queen. 114 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: There was the royal engagement that we all saw and 115 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: what the press saw. But at the same time, she 116 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 3: took comfort in familiar faces and people that she knew 117 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: and and rather enjoyed. And I almost saw you as 118 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 3: an outlet to be herself the way she engaged with you. 119 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: She she was there was two stays to her, two 120 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: lovely stays that she could mentioned. You know, there was 121 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: obviously they say that we all know, we all see, 122 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: we all love which is the queen. And then there 123 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: was you could almost see that missus windsor you know, 124 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: the kind of behind the scenes where she was just 125 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: like everybody else. I mean, she has the same lake 126 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: dis Lake Harbort, you know. And and also there's footage, 127 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know on Lane there's the speatures of 128 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: her different races and things, and you see how getting 129 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: excited and kind of running around and and and I 130 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: also remember that the first time I was of facially 131 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: introduced to her, so I always had met her, but 132 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: I hadn't been especially introduced. And the most bizarre thing 133 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: was it was actually the Prince of Wales that actually 134 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: introduced me to his mother, and it was at her 135 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: atheist was it was a atheist a Patti of q 136 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: Palace for Hiatus Best or something. And I was busy, 137 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: actually seventh at the time in its most awkward moment, 138 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: when the middle of Sebuce you suddenly have an introduction. 139 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: And I remember Prince kind of stuned around and saying, oh, 140 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, Mammy, this is this is Granted, one of 141 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: my my butlers. And she went out and Rand and 142 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: I suddenly thought, oh god, what I doing Now drop 143 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: the veal. I'll keep standing there, you know, you don't 144 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: know what to do. And then and she she kind 145 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: of she kind of you know, looked at me and 146 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: smiled and started charted me. And I was and I was, 147 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: I was so nervous and so overwhelmed that the Prince 148 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: was just invented and introduced me to the Queen. She 149 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: said something to me, and I think I literally went 150 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: a little because I couldn't my. 151 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: Word side amazing, Grant. So just before you go, Grant, 152 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: what did she mean to you? I mean, we see, 153 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: you know, being part of the Commonwealth. And and she 154 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: visited Australia numerous times. And we see you know, we 155 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: only see what we see on the television here, but 156 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: you spend a bit of time with her. What what 157 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: did Queen Elizabeth mean to you? 158 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: Do? You know? Fessor mentioned she she loved the Comwealth. 159 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean she loved there's another countries, you know that. 160 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean the met of tames Australia. She had a 161 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: love for everything and upset some of us. But yeah, 162 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: she met a lot. You know, she was an amazing 163 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: lead and I feel really lucky to have had the 164 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: honor of actually known her for part of her life. 165 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: Grant the other thing too, I mean from what I'd taken, 166 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: what up my understanding of her history, which is brief, 167 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: But she was also one hell of a pillar of 168 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: strength for everybody city of the monarch there and also 169 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: the way she led not only the royal family but 170 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: but England and the Commonwealth. 171 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: She she is was, She was a verse and it 172 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: said for the country. You know, whenever when anything was 173 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: wrong with those problems, you kind have turned to them. 174 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: It's it's the most it's the most extraordinary thing, because 175 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, over the years there've been discussions, as you know, 176 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: they talk about you know, one day, but we have 177 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: a money, so we're not. And the reality is, especially 178 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: with the Queen, I mean, I have no idea what 179 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: obviously long term future, what's going to happen, But well 180 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: the Queen, there was stability, there was security, and we 181 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: always just I mean, you don't have to see a 182 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: few months ago at how the platinum celebrations and everybody 183 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: just kind of there and and chanting for her, just 184 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: wanting to get glimpses of her, and everyone just everyone 185 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: saw her as basically as the nation's granny, you know, 186 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: and you know we've we've now lost well we have, 187 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 1: we've literally lost the granny of the nation and the Conwell. 188 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: Well, Grant, we now how busy you are this morning, 189 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: and we hit we do have a great friendship with you, Grant, 190 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: that we've had for many a years. We've been we've 191 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: celebrated at many weddings, but now we mourn for the 192 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: next ten to twelve days. We appreciate your time, Grant. 193 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 2: Thanks thanks for coming on the show. 194 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: Thank you guys, thank you having on and send my 195 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: best wishes to your families as well. 196 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: Always mate, thanks for sharing. 197 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: So everybuddy, thank you. You're listening to the FITZI and 198 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: Whippo podcast