1
00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:00,720
Speaker 1: Hi, girls.

2
00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:02,800
Speaker 2: On today's episode, I just want to give a quick

3
00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,280
Speaker 2: disclaimer that we do talk about medication and mental health.

4
00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,000
Speaker 2: So if it's not an episode that you girls want

5
00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,200
Speaker 2: to listen to feel through disc gipt and in no

6
00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,800
Speaker 2: way are we medical professionals, So please seek medical advice

7
00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,960
Speaker 2: before you take anything that we say is gospel.

8
00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,520
Speaker 3: Do you remember that those three weeks ago when you

9
00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,319
Speaker 3: were anxious and you were like, the world is going

10
00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:28,760
Speaker 3: to end? No, it's been three weeks, doesn't fucking matter anymore. Hello, guys,

11
00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,519
Speaker 3: welcome back to our Thursday Just for a Girl's Girls Guide.

12
00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,440
Speaker 2: On this week's topic, we are talking all about anxiety,

13
00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:37,200
Speaker 2: which Isy.

14
00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,000
Speaker 1: And I really come from.

15
00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

16
00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we want to talk about our experiences with anxiety,

17
00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,640
Speaker 2: how we cope, little strategies that we have.

18
00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,000
Speaker 3: Any tips and tricks to try and make it a

19
00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,760
Speaker 3: little bit easier, if you guys, social anxiety too.

20
00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just making us all feel less alone with

21
00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,440
Speaker 2: things that we struggle with day Today.

22
00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:55,560
Speaker 1: Let's get into.

23
00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:02,160
Speaker 2: It is he tell me about your anxious anxiety thoughts.

24
00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,639
Speaker 1: My anxiety journey.

25
00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,000
Speaker 3: When I was like breaking up up with my first boyfriend,

26
00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,360
Speaker 3: I noticed I actually got really depressed and That's where

27
00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,920
Speaker 3: I first started noticing my mental health issues peeking in.

28
00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,800
Speaker 3: I had certain, like very prevalent OCD tendencies, like the

29
00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,240
Speaker 3: flicking of the lights, the washing of the.

30
00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,199
Speaker 1: Hands, all that jazz.

31
00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,760
Speaker 3: Then I got really really depressed after my first breakup,

32
00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,399
Speaker 3: and all of that stuff actually went away, which is

33
00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,640
Speaker 3: really weird. I feel like sometimes those mental health can

34
00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,280
Speaker 3: go away because I'm like, I'm so depressed right now

35
00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,760
Speaker 3: that the last thing I give a shit about is

36
00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:35,479
Speaker 3: how many times I.

37
00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,959
Speaker 1: Fucking flicked the lights switch sort of thing.

38
00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,399
Speaker 3: That's when my first mental health stuff came in, and

39
00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,760
Speaker 3: I went to a therapist about it, saw it, spoke

40
00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,400
Speaker 3: to someone, and slowly the depression and everything went away.

41
00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,960
Speaker 3: At that point, I hadn't been on any medication, and

42
00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,160
Speaker 3: then that was all fine, but anxiety started slowly creeping in.

43
00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,680
Speaker 3: As I kind of got happier and everything got better,

44
00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,520
Speaker 3: I was like, hang on, like what's this fucking's reading

45
00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,200
Speaker 3: little voice in my head and my anxiety was pretty

46
00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,880
Speaker 3: pretty full swing for a couple of years before I

47
00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,280
Speaker 3: decided to start taking medication. I went to see someone.

48
00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,679
Speaker 3: I think it's the same. I take lexapro right now. Yeah, look,

49
00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,000
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it gets rid of it. But my

50
00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:22,000
Speaker 3: first experience with medication, I was on Zoloft and I

51
00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,120
Speaker 3: would have like one or two drinks. This was during COVID,

52
00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,280
Speaker 3: so like I wasn't drinking heavily, like all drink like

53
00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:28,919
Speaker 3: pretty heavily.

54
00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,480
Speaker 1: I was like at home with.

55
00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,120
Speaker 3: My family and we had like one or two wines

56
00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,680
Speaker 3: have a game night, and I literally couldn't remember anything.

57
00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,240
Speaker 2: Wow.

58
00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, what is fucking happening? And

59
00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, obviously, like it must be my medication and

60
00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,639
Speaker 3: it was. So I changed medications, and luckily that second

61
00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,799
Speaker 3: medication did really help and I didn't have to kind

62
00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,440
Speaker 3: of keep looking around. But you definitely can an experience

63
00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,600
Speaker 3: having to swap and change before you find one that

64
00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:57,760
Speaker 3: works for you. I'd say it definitely helps me. It

65
00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,160
Speaker 3: doesn't make it go away. There has been time or

66
00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,119
Speaker 3: I contemplate whether upping the dose is worth it, But I,

67
00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,920
Speaker 3: as I've mentioned on previous episodes, I do think it

68
00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,320
Speaker 3: lowers my sex drive, so I should and want to

69
00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,760
Speaker 3: look in potentially changing it again, but I think I'm

70
00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,079
Speaker 3: scared scared of like having to wean off this one.

71
00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,120
Speaker 3: How I'm gonna feel yeah, before getting into another one. Yeah,

72
00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,040
Speaker 3: but it has been super super helpful for me though.

73
00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,440
Speaker 3: How do you address your anxiety?

74
00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,200
Speaker 2: I was similar with you with how I found out

75
00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,760
Speaker 2: I had anxiety. I actually got diagnosed with depression as well.

76
00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,840
Speaker 2: I'm a bit different with you. You have a lot

77
00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,160
Speaker 2: of head noise. I greatly have head noises. Yeah, it

78
00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,920
Speaker 2: was kind of a ripple effective. I got diagnosed with

79
00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,760
Speaker 2: my eating disorder. And then when girls who have gone

80
00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,760
Speaker 2: and try to seek medical help for their mental health issues,

81
00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,520
Speaker 2: you have a questionnaire and they ask you, like, on

82
00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,640
Speaker 2: the scale of one to ten, how much do you

83
00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,400
Speaker 2: think about this? And they ask you that, And my

84
00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,000
Speaker 2: anxiety levels was almost triple my depression levels, and I

85
00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,720
Speaker 2: just thought I was depressed. But my the way my

86
00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,560
Speaker 2: anxiety shows is through physical symptoms. I get a really

87
00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,840
Speaker 2: so tummy, I get like, I start to feel really

88
00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,040
Speaker 2: really sick. My heart like starts beating really fast. I

89
00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,680
Speaker 2: get really sweaty in my hands, and then for h yeah,

90
00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,960
Speaker 2: I ripped my nails off. I like can't stop playing

91
00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,200
Speaker 2: with my earrings, or I like picked the mascara off

92
00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,440
Speaker 2: my eyelashes. And that's how I noticed that I'm anxious.

93
00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't really feel the feeling of anxiety. It's all

94
00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,440
Speaker 2: physical for me. And that's when I started. Once I

95
00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,479
Speaker 2: got diagnosed with it, I go, makes a lot of

96
00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,440
Speaker 2: sense totally. I got put on searchilin straight away, and

97
00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,960
Speaker 2: I would say it I think that's also because I

98
00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,120
Speaker 2: had depression. I have depression, but I would say it

99
00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,800
Speaker 2: helped me quite a lot. But then I became completely numb,

100
00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,160
Speaker 2: like someone could have told me something I would I

101
00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,120
Speaker 2: liked a lot of empathy.

102
00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,200
Speaker 1: I liked a lot of sympathy.

103
00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,200
Speaker 2: I didn't feel anything like I couldn't cry no matter

104
00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,440
Speaker 2: how much I wanted to cry, and I just became

105
00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,320
Speaker 2: super numb and like I just didn't feel human. So

106
00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,720
Speaker 2: I just like, I do not do this. I do

107
00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,440
Speaker 2: not do this. Whatever you do, guys, go to and

108
00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,080
Speaker 2: seek medical advice. But I just like went cold turkey

109
00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,360
Speaker 2: and went off and do not do that. And I've

110
00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,360
Speaker 2: never gone on something since. I definitely have been experienced

111
00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,640
Speaker 2: anxiety really really bad for the last couple of months.

112
00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,400
Speaker 2: Ever since I got home from America, and obviously, like

113
00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,000
Speaker 2: with my job online and how much hate I get online,

114
00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,479
Speaker 2: my anxiety has gotten so bad to the point where

115
00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to go out on the weekends because

116
00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,520
Speaker 2: I'm so nervous about other people and everything like that,

117
00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,839
Speaker 2: and like I literally look at people and think that

118
00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,280
Speaker 2: they hate me. And my anxiety has gotten so bad

119
00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,720
Speaker 2: from that that I'm going and seeing a naturopath this

120
00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,720
Speaker 2: afternoon so I can talk about that, because I want

121
00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,880
Speaker 2: to take a natural approach to trying to get on

122
00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,360
Speaker 2: top of my anxiety. I don't like the thought of

123
00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,400
Speaker 2: taking a pill every day. I'm not consistent with things

124
00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,880
Speaker 2: like that, Like I couldn't do birth control, which for

125
00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,160
Speaker 2: some people like you, I think I wouldn't.

126
00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,480
Speaker 1: I would want you to stay on medication. I have

127
00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,520
Speaker 1: to take my virrox and every day.

128
00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so for me taking a pill, I can't stay

129
00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,880
Speaker 3: in that routine quite easily. But it's also like, if

130
00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,000
Speaker 3: it's not I would recommend therapy is probably the first

131
00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,040
Speaker 3: port of call always, like therapy is so so normal,

132
00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,719
Speaker 3: Like I think my whole family used to see a therapist,

133
00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,159
Speaker 3: and I was really really hesitant too, even though I

134
00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,880
Speaker 3: clearly had a lot of stuff that I needed to

135
00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,159
Speaker 3: talk out, because my brain was saying, with the moment

136
00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,520
Speaker 3: I see a therapist, I am admitting that there's something wrong, yeah,

137
00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,640
Speaker 3: which was such a childish, silly way to look at it.

138
00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,960
Speaker 3: It was incredibly helpful to me. I've seen them at

139
00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,760
Speaker 3: different points in my life to overcome certain issues.

140
00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't regularly see.

141
00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,240
Speaker 3: One, and look, I probably shouldn't, it would be incredibly

142
00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,159
Speaker 3: beneficial to me. But I'd say talking to someone, talking

143
00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,880
Speaker 3: to a doctor if you do feel like you're anxious,

144
00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,839
Speaker 3: or just talking to a therapist, like you may have

145
00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,920
Speaker 3: a light anxiety, that talking to someone every week maybe

146
00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,600
Speaker 3: literally all you need to kind of overcome that headgains.

147
00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,400
Speaker 2: And I've had anxiety for so fucking long now I

148
00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,360
Speaker 2: want to get down to the root cause of it.

149
00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,800
Speaker 2: I think because I experienced so many physical symptoms, like

150
00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,240
Speaker 2: I know that my cortersol levels are so high, and

151
00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,919
Speaker 2: then that's like then kind of ripple infective like my

152
00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,440
Speaker 2: gut help then my skin and everything like that, that

153
00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, I kind of want to fix that issue

154
00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,040
Speaker 2: as well, and then I think my anxiety will come

155
00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,960
Speaker 2: off that as well. And I don't think medication is

156
00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,480
Speaker 2: necessarily going to help me directly with that.

157
00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, my parents, well my mum and my brother

158
00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,040
Speaker 3: actually talking to me yesterday, like I can't be on

159
00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,920
Speaker 3: this medication forever. You know, I do need to kind

160
00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,720
Speaker 3: of find a point where I can get to the

161
00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,120
Speaker 3: root of it and get rid of it from the

162
00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,440
Speaker 3: source first, just kind of covering it with the medication.

163
00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,000
Speaker 3: But right now is obviously it is really helping me.

164
00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,440
Speaker 3: But social anxiety, I am. I have quite a lot

165
00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,440
Speaker 3: of social anxiety. I think you do as well.

166
00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,720
Speaker 2: I think mine is social anxiety.

167
00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are your tips for helping with that?

168
00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,480
Speaker 2: I think because obviously our job is very much in

169
00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,560
Speaker 2: the social scene, which they're probably directly correlating again when

170
00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm probably getting a lot of backlash online. Everything in

171
00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,119
Speaker 2: my life is anxious, and I realize I get very

172
00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,440
Speaker 2: I have a short fuse, and I like because I'm

173
00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,040
Speaker 2: so in my head and there's so much, like there's

174
00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,360
Speaker 2: literally a full essay going on in my head that

175
00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,400
Speaker 2: I then like when someone tries to talk to me,

176
00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,720
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to then understand what they're saying and

177
00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,680
Speaker 2: try to take on what they're saying and like then

178
00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,120
Speaker 2: provide feedback. I don't have a lot of like patience,

179
00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,120
Speaker 2: and I don't have a lot of everything goes on

180
00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,080
Speaker 2: so and I'm like do go go, go, go, go go,

181
00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,520
Speaker 2: and everything is like on fucking two time speed because

182
00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,520
Speaker 2: there's so much going on, and I think something that

183
00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,360
Speaker 2: I really practice with you and when we have like

184
00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:38,480
Speaker 2: an event or something patients patients, Yes, But I the

185
00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,400
Speaker 2: second I will say, when I get into a big

186
00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,920
Speaker 2: room of crowd, I go like really silent, and I like,

187
00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,360
Speaker 2: you can just tell there's like nothing, Yeah, there's like

188
00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,560
Speaker 2: nothing going on in my face. I struggle to show

189
00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,880
Speaker 2: facial expressions and I like awkwardly stand there and I'll

190
00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,120
Speaker 2: say it easy obviously, because the majority of the time

191
00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,120
Speaker 2: i'm with easy, I go, I'm like really anxious, like

192
00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,840
Speaker 2: right now, like I literally like can't converse easy normally.

193
00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,559
Speaker 2: Then if we have to do like interviews or like

194
00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,320
Speaker 2: people asking your questions, just easy kind of talks, and

195
00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,240
Speaker 2: I'll like buddy in when I can. And you're quite

196
00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,120
Speaker 2: the same, like you like I let people know I've.

197
00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,640
Speaker 3: Learned, And I think that's one huge tip. Let people

198
00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,000
Speaker 3: around you know, because yeah, I can be quite snappy

199
00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,120
Speaker 3: when I'm feeling stressed or just quite silent, and I

200
00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,880
Speaker 3: don't want people to keep going what's wrong, what's wrong?

201
00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,040
Speaker 3: Like I'm not there fishing for them what's wrong. It's like,

202
00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,960
Speaker 3: so I'll always just be like, by the way, guys,

203
00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,600
Speaker 3: I am feeling really really really anxious right now. So

204
00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,240
Speaker 3: just like you know, leave me to it sort of thing.

205
00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,640
Speaker 3: Letting people around you know, you don't want to snap

206
00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,360
Speaker 3: at people who are trying to help you. Also, people

207
00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,760
Speaker 3: might be like, why are you means so quiet? Like

208
00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,079
Speaker 3: why are you means are quiet? It's like that's not

209
00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,880
Speaker 3: going to make you feel better either. Yeah, just let

210
00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,720
Speaker 3: people know when you're feeling that way. It's like if

211
00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,760
Speaker 3: you're angry about something, even I'm like, by the way, guys,

212
00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,959
Speaker 3: I'm like I've got to really shot views right now.

213
00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,959
Speaker 1: So like steer clear sort of thing.

214
00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,400
Speaker 3: Just talk to the people around you and let them

215
00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,760
Speaker 3: know how you're feeling because they can support you, they

216
00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,679
Speaker 3: can help you. They might be like, all right, do

217
00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,160
Speaker 3: you want to go, let's leave they talk a bit

218
00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,600
Speaker 3: more to keep you from you know, having to do

219
00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,679
Speaker 3: the work yourself. It's just better to always let people

220
00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,080
Speaker 3: know around you how you're feeling.

221
00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,040
Speaker 2: And I'll always like let easy know like the one

222
00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,080
Speaker 2: thing that's on my mind. And obviously this is like

223
00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,400
Speaker 2: super surface level and it's like related to my job

224
00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,319
Speaker 2: of if I like, no, I need to get a

225
00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,360
Speaker 2: certain amount of content at if I'm at an event

226
00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,800
Speaker 2: or if I'm at something and that's playing on my mind,

227
00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,559
Speaker 2: I can't fully relax or something until like easy will

228
00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,440
Speaker 2: be like let's get it done, let's help it. And

229
00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,240
Speaker 2: easy is really good with me as well as like

230
00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,120
Speaker 2: not not going, oh, what's wrong, like what's wrong or

231
00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,200
Speaker 2: like we never go like I'll snap out of it

232
00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:29,960
Speaker 2: or get over it.

233
00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,600
Speaker 3: You got something so and go okay, like if you

234
00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,199
Speaker 3: want to tell me, to tell me when you're ready, Yeah,

235
00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:33,880
Speaker 3: let's just get.

236
00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,880
Speaker 2: This, because I like tend not to say it out loud,

237
00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,960
Speaker 2: like you'll be able to tell that I'm anxious, but

238
00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,079
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily tell me.

239
00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,000
Speaker 1: What business says why she was anxious at that?

240
00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he is. He's really good at kind of

241
00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,439
Speaker 2: reading that I'm anxious, and she'll like grab my hand

242
00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,800
Speaker 2: or she'll like intertwine her arm around me, and then

243
00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,400
Speaker 2: it's kind of just like we both have each other

244
00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,160
Speaker 2: and we both can be.

245
00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,240
Speaker 1: To get too.

246
00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,280
Speaker 3: So I'm like that is how I show that I'm

247
00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,160
Speaker 3: like there listening, whereas Sam's more like she'll do things

248
00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,800
Speaker 3: for me, yes, to stop me from having to like

249
00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,640
Speaker 3: do things myself when I'm feeling that way. But I

250
00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,160
Speaker 3: think just having someone around you talking to them is

251
00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,400
Speaker 3: our what helps us and how we help each other. Yeah,

252
00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,079
Speaker 3: also this has tips on how to help someone around

253
00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,120
Speaker 3: you when they're feeling that way. I'll just show that

254
00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,520
Speaker 3: you're there, don't ask too many questions. They'll tend to

255
00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,199
Speaker 3: say it when they're ready, if they are ever ready.

256
00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,559
Speaker 3: And sometimes there's a lot of my anxieties for absolutely

257
00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,000
Speaker 3: no reasonable I can never pinpoint out.

258
00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,280
Speaker 1: I can never tell Sam why it's happening. I don't know.

259
00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,800
Speaker 1: But right now I feel like I'm about to be

260
00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,120
Speaker 1: squalled by the earth.

261
00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,199
Speaker 2: And I think a big thing is like be kind

262
00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,320
Speaker 2: on yourself and don't push yourself. Like a lot of

263
00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,320
Speaker 2: the time I feel anxiety if I'm like I have

264
00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,560
Speaker 2: a big night planned or something like that and all

265
00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,280
Speaker 2: my friends are going out, and then I'll get to

266
00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,200
Speaker 2: the event, I don't want to drink suddenly, Like that

267
00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,000
Speaker 2: is my biggest tieteller, that I feel like something could

268
00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,120
Speaker 2: go bad. It is like I will be keen for

269
00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,480
Speaker 2: it all day and then suddenly the thought of alcohol

270
00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,080
Speaker 2: completely puts me off.

271
00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,320
Speaker 3: And that's when I'm like, She's like, I'm not drinking tonight,

272
00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,719
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh no, yeah, something up.

273
00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just get so anxious and the thought

274
00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,480
Speaker 2: of being around people like that, and then about what

275
00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,280
Speaker 2: people could say, like literally like it brings like so

276
00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,640
Speaker 2: much like dread, and I get like really really hot,

277
00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,439
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my.

278
00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,760
Speaker 3: Fucking girls, I think this job has exacerbated exacerbated your

279
00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,079
Speaker 3: anxiety or completely yeah ten times over, do you know

280
00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,640
Speaker 3: what I mean? Because a lot of the not drinking

281
00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,559
Speaker 3: or something, it's usually when it's a social event and

282
00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,800
Speaker 3: more around people we don't really know or be a

283
00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,080
Speaker 3: big social event. And I think, which saddens me that

284
00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,439
Speaker 3: other people's opinions and stuff like affects not affects you

285
00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,720
Speaker 3: that much to effect it would affect me too, but

286
00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,480
Speaker 3: it upsets me that those so many fucking roade people

287
00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,600
Speaker 3: out there that way, yeah, make you feel that way.

288
00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I also think it's just like it's okay

289
00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,400
Speaker 2: if you want to go home, like up nine times

290
00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,320
Speaker 2: out of ten, you're not going to miss anything on

291
00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,520
Speaker 2: that night, Like you're not gonna have Yeah, it could

292
00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,080
Speaker 2: be a really fun night if you like try to

293
00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:46,560
Speaker 2: push through it.

294
00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:47,520
Speaker 1: But like if you don't.

295
00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,120
Speaker 2: Feel like pushing through it, just go home, like, put

296
00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,000
Speaker 2: a fucking movie on, make yourself a nice little snack,

297
00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,120
Speaker 2: and just like rug up.

298
00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, find the things that make you feel comforted and happy.

299
00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,200
Speaker 3: Like Sunday, there was an event that I was really

300
00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,120
Speaker 3: keen to go to all week. I get to Sunday

301
00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,680
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I can't push myself. I'm feeling really

302
00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:05,880
Speaker 3: anxious and feeling really flat.

303
00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:06,880
Speaker 1: I made some.

304
00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,120
Speaker 3: Pasta, I watched Gossip Girl, I read my book. I

305
00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,200
Speaker 3: sat in the couch with my cat. Yeah, yes, I

306
00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,559
Speaker 3: had a little bit of fomo. But now it's it's

307
00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,640
Speaker 3: gone Tuesday, and I'm like, cool, it was a fun night,

308
00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,000
Speaker 3: but it's Tuesday now and it's Ober.

309
00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:18,800
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

310
00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,280
Speaker 2: So there will always be another event. There will always

311
00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,240
Speaker 2: be another dinner. There will always be something that you

312
00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,440
Speaker 2: guys will go to when you're not feeling anxious, because

313
00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,760
Speaker 2: nine times out of ten, you don't end up enjoying yourself,

314
00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:28,880
Speaker 2: and you do just wish you went.

315
00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,600
Speaker 3: From You're probably not going to enjoy yourself. Yeah, you're

316
00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,880
Speaker 3: in that mental state. Your bottom lineed, You're literally never

317
00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,960
Speaker 3: ever going to be missing out on anything that's that important.

318
00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, prioritize your mental health and putting yourself around

319
00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,079
Speaker 3: people that make you feel good.

320
00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're not alone in that feeling, Like so

321
00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,000
Speaker 2: many people feel the same thing. So many people know

322
00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,960
Speaker 2: where you're coming from, especially in this day and age,

323
00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,840
Speaker 2: like mental health is such a big topic that so

324
00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,040
Speaker 2: many people are learning and be coming to understand that

325
00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,000
Speaker 2: you're not alone in your thoughts.

326
00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,760
Speaker 3: A nine times out of ten is something that I

327
00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,120
Speaker 3: feel like I struggle with, Like where my so so

328
00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,240
Speaker 3: anxiety kind of shows its face as it's like I

329
00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,160
Speaker 3: will walk into a room and think everyone's fucking staring

330
00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,480
Speaker 3: at me, everyone's judging something I'm wearing. Everyone's going, oh,

331
00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:11,800
Speaker 3: she's done this, she said this.

332
00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,400
Speaker 1: No, they're fucking no, they're not. Like that's a very

333
00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:15,520
Speaker 1: worried about.

334
00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,200
Speaker 3: The point of view for me to have to think

335
00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,280
Speaker 3: that that many people care about what I'm doing.

336
00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely fucking done. Like when I have to walk.

337
00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,720
Speaker 3: Into something where I know that there's a couple of

338
00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,720
Speaker 3: people that say don't like me, or you know, it's

339
00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,000
Speaker 3: so stressful, but they're thinking about themselves. They're not thinking

340
00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,240
Speaker 3: about what I'm doing. I'm sure as hell not thinking

341
00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,680
Speaker 3: about what anyone else is doing. I'm thinking about myself.

342
00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,960
Speaker 3: That's the same as everyone else in the room. So

343
00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,440
Speaker 3: it's like, just take deep breath and think it gets

344
00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:42,640
Speaker 3: really fucking important.

345
00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I he gets really anxious always that, like

346
00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,400
Speaker 2: after a night out about like what you could have

347
00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,920
Speaker 2: potentially done or what you could have potentially said, And

348
00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,080
Speaker 2: I like literally say to people, I'm like, don't fucking

349
00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,000
Speaker 2: say it to her. It's irrelevant, Like it doesn't need

350
00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,840
Speaker 2: to Like she didn't do anything wrong. She's probably just

351
00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,240
Speaker 2: having a fun time. I'm like, I'll never message easy

352
00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:58,560
Speaker 2: the morning.

353
00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like now I've learned.

354
00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,520
Speaker 3: You know, when people go, oh, like do you want

355
00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,000
Speaker 3: to hear like, oh my god, you were so funny

356
00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,920
Speaker 3: last night, I'm like, don't tell me Like I don't care. Yea,

357
00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,640
Speaker 3: I had a good fun night. That is literally all

358
00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,240
Speaker 3: but my brain being my brain will go.

359
00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,040
Speaker 1: Oh, you had a fun night.

360
00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:14,920
Speaker 3: Let's try and figure out a way to ruin that

361
00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,920
Speaker 3: for Yeah, and it will tick through and tick through

362
00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,040
Speaker 3: everything I've said. I might remember a lot of the

363
00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,600
Speaker 3: stuff I've said, the people I spoke to probably fucking don't.

364
00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,720
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's not like I'm getting messages. It's not

365
00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,000
Speaker 3: like I've said rude things of people.

366
00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:25,520
Speaker 1: Yelling at me.

367
00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,800
Speaker 3: It's like you just so like, oh, I've had a

368
00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,120
Speaker 3: couple of drinks and you've been a bit silly, like I.

369
00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,640
Speaker 1: Don't want to know what I mean? Do you know

370
00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,920
Speaker 1: what I mean? So actually, so everyone, Yeah, it's not important.

371
00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,440
Speaker 1: No one remembers it. The next day.

372
00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,880
Speaker 3: People might have just had a good night with you

373
00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,520
Speaker 3: and that's literally the end of it.

374
00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,520
Speaker 1: So I just don't think too deeply in what you

375
00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:43,200
Speaker 1: do when you drink.

376
00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,440
Speaker 3: Kind of drinking can't exacerbate a lot of mental health,

377
00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,920
Speaker 3: a lot of anxiety. Have you ever do you remember

378
00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,160
Speaker 3: that those three weeks ago when you were anxious and

379
00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,560
Speaker 3: you were like the world it's gonna end. No, it's

380
00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,480
Speaker 3: been three weeks, doesn't fuck matter anymore.

381
00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, always, it's just the biggest thing is just like

382
00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,800
Speaker 2: being kind in yourself and like, don't have shame that

383
00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,160
Speaker 2: you feel that way, because everyone at one point in

384
00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,840
Speaker 2: their life has a feeling of anxiety or a feeling

385
00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,360
Speaker 2: that they're not good enough for that they're not deserving

386
00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,920
Speaker 2: of certain things. But you always are, and you're always

387
00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,440
Speaker 2: you're always deserving of seeking help and getting over that

388
00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,320
Speaker 2: because it's not a normal feeling that you should be

389
00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:16,920
Speaker 2: feeling every day.

390
00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,120
Speaker 1: It's not something you should need to get used to, yes,

391
00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,960
Speaker 1: and not something that you need to push through.

392
00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,360
Speaker 2: If you need to get help, if you need to

393
00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,080
Speaker 2: go to a mental health plan, you can literally go

394
00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,880
Speaker 2: to a bulk building doctor that through Medicare and you

395
00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,240
Speaker 2: can get on a mental health plan and I'm pretty

396
00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,800
Speaker 2: sure it's ten sessions.

397
00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,320
Speaker 1: A year you get bulk build or like you, you.

398
00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,160
Speaker 2: Can get a mental health plan that becomes a make

399
00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,000
Speaker 2: it a lot cheaper if you want to talk to someone,

400
00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,960
Speaker 2: because I know that it can be really expensive out

401
00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,880
Speaker 2: of pocket and everything like that, you can seek help

402
00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,360
Speaker 2: that will make it more accessible to you. That I

403
00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,520
Speaker 2: think is really important to try to seek. If you're

404
00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,680
Speaker 2: feeling it more than you're not feeling it, that's like

405
00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,960
Speaker 2: the biggest thing. Yeah, And I'm now coming to terms

406
00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,040
Speaker 2: with that that I need to seek a lot more

407
00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,040
Speaker 2: help than what I'm doing.

408
00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I need to get rid of my bandard approach

409
00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,120
Speaker 3: with medication and talk to someone. And it's like talking

410
00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,160
Speaker 3: to someone, it's like I'm like, oh sabs, like it's

411
00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,200
Speaker 3: my mental health. Yeah, what is more important honestly than

412
00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,240
Speaker 3: how you're feeling?

413
00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you are a talker and you do like

414
00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,480
Speaker 2: talking it out, which I think is something I'm envious

415
00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,159
Speaker 2: of you of, Like I'm like, again, I'm a short fews.

416
00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:18,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to talk it out and

417
00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,600
Speaker 2: a lot of the time mine comes from like deep

418
00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,480
Speaker 2: rooted issues of my childhood and I don't like talking

419
00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,920
Speaker 2: about it because I'm like, I don't want to build

420
00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,920
Speaker 2: resentment for anyone. But it is probably something that I

421
00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,520
Speaker 2: will need to do long term when I've come maybe

422
00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,680
Speaker 2: like a little bit further than when I am, because

423
00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,520
Speaker 2: I feel like it could isolate me a little bit

424
00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,080
Speaker 2: more so if you don't want to talk to someone

425
00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,760
Speaker 2: as well, and you want to talk to a friend,

426
00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,680
Speaker 2: like you always find a friend that you'll always be

427
00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,760
Speaker 2: able to. They will always want to sort of release

428
00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,560
Speaker 2: some of that burden off yourself and share it with

429
00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,159
Speaker 2: And that's why I've come to terms with like I

430
00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,240
Speaker 2: need to like lean on people because.

431
00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,560
Speaker 3: You can't do everything by yourself. You're just a girl

432
00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,359
Speaker 3: and just be a boy, you know, like we're not perfect.

433
00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,920
Speaker 2: Or you could be a grown man and a grown

434
00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,760
Speaker 2: woman and you can still have those ladies.

435
00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,480
Speaker 1: Ye, you're not alone in that.

436
00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,120
Speaker 2: But that's what we thought we wanted to talk about.

437
00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,800
Speaker 3: And share some of our experiences. We're not perfect. We're

438
00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,760
Speaker 3: still managing it. We're still dealing with that. We don't

439
00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,639
Speaker 3: have all the answers, we don't have all the tips

440
00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,479
Speaker 3: and tricks, but we've kind of just know the best

441
00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,199
Speaker 3: way to go about it is to speak to someone

442
00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,679
Speaker 3: and you know, take.

443
00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,600
Speaker 1: It day by day. Not everyone's kind of yourself. Yeah,

444
00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:19,880
Speaker 1: just be kind to yourself.

445
00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,080
Speaker 2: We love you all very much. Thank you for joining

446
00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,360
Speaker 2: us this Thursday on our Girl's.

447
00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,280
Speaker 3: Guide reoccurring at Girl's Guide series that will be out

448
00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:28,639
Speaker 3: every Thursday.

449
00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,919
Speaker 2: We will see you on Tuesday.

450
00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:40,600
Speaker 1: Love you guys. Bye,