Speaker 1: Our general rule and general approach is like to assume
Speaker 1: the best of each other all the time, and I
Speaker 1: think that's a great way to move through the world.
Speaker 1: It's never why the fuck did you do this? Or
Speaker 1: I can't believe you've done this. It's always like, hey,
Speaker 1: are you okay? Because it is out of character for
Speaker 1: you to have done this? Or I'm feeling like this.
Speaker 1: Am I overreacting? Am I taking this the wrong way?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 3: And welcome to separate bathrooms.
Speaker 4: We would like to acknowledge the Gadigel people of the Urination,
Speaker 4: the traditional custodians of this land, and pay our respects
Speaker 4: to the elders, both past and present.
Speaker 3: My name's Cam Daddo, Amili Daddo.
Speaker 4: Hey, el, Yes, what happens when you blend music and comedy?
Speaker 5: Mommedy?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 4: Now wait, wait, what happens when you blend a person
Speaker 4: who does music and.
Speaker 3: Comedy musical comedy?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: A musical comedian musical or a comical musician musician?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right, either way you find your way to this person.
Speaker 5: I see, Hey, there's a good segon Hey.
Speaker 2: Musical comedian Michelle Brazier is known for her work with
Speaker 2: Auntie Donner, Sean mcalyp's Mad as Hell, Thank God You're Here,
Speaker 2: and her One Woman Comedy as Philosophy Live shows. I
Speaker 2: love that comedy is philosophy.
Speaker 3: A lot of philosophy is pretty funny.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, especially you can blend it well with.
Speaker 3: Comedy, philosophizing, contifgating.
Speaker 2: That's right in between standing ovations off Broadway, writing a
Speaker 2: memoir and her upcoming UK tour, Michelle has slotted in
Speaker 2: recording her eagerly awaited debut album, Trilogy Mix Tape. The
Speaker 2: album is the soundtrack to Michelle's last three award winning
Speaker 2: solo shows, Average Bear, Legacy and Reform.
Speaker 4: Tim Lancaster is Michelle's partner. He's outside with Michelle right now.
Speaker 4: Not to be confused with the British Airways pilot Tim Lancaster,
Speaker 4: who survived being sucked out of the broken windshield at
Speaker 4: seventeen thousand feet in nineteen ninety Thank you, doctor Google,
Speaker 4: and in case you're wondering, he survived because a crew
Speaker 4: member literally grabbed a hold of his feet while another
Speaker 4: crew member hung on to the foot grabber's belt amid
Speaker 4: one hundred mile per hour winds blasting through the cockpit.
Speaker 4: They hung on until the landing a couple of fractures
Speaker 4: of bloody nose and several pairs of soiled und I
Speaker 4: am sure it's not that Tim Langcaster.
Speaker 5: Because that's a story.
Speaker 3: It is a story.
Speaker 5: We're not going to ask him about that, visc aren't we. No,
Speaker 5: I don't think he's going to know anything about it.
Speaker 3: I beg to differ. I'm curious about that. I reckon
Speaker 3: there'll be people that ask him.
Speaker 4: I'm going to ask Sorry. Yeah, all right, So this
Speaker 4: Tim Lancaster, the man who is side the bathroom with Michelle,
Speaker 4: is way more grounded. He's younger and musical. Let's welcome
Speaker 4: Michelle and Tim to the bathroom. All right, look, guys, welcome. Firstly, Tim,
Speaker 4: I have to ask you this question. Do you ever
Speaker 4: get asked about being sucked off? I mean out of
Speaker 4: an aeroplane window?
Speaker 1: I want to go back to when you said sucked off?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 3: Tim?
Speaker 6: No? I don't.
Speaker 3: Are you aware?
Speaker 4: Are you aware of Tim Lancaster thet I knew it
Speaker 4: would be aware?
Speaker 6: Of course, I've googled myself. I'm not a course of course. No.
Speaker 6: I am aware of alternate Tim Lancaster's story, but unfortunately
Speaker 6: not that many people google me. So nobody really comes
Speaker 6: to ask me.
Speaker 4: Well, they know about it now because in the intro,
Speaker 4: I because I went to doctor Google, of course, and
Speaker 4: that's what I discussed.
Speaker 2: You've got an incredible story, Tim, I'm glad you survived that.
Speaker 1: That's sucking out points me too.
Speaker 3: And here we are.
Speaker 6: It's all worked out really well.
Speaker 5: For where did you go?
Speaker 4: Well, we are a relationship podcast, you guys, so tell
Speaker 4: us your love story.
Speaker 3: How did you meet?
Speaker 1: We met? And this sounds fake but is real. We
Speaker 1: met doing Legally Blonde the musical. Nice, isn't that? So?
Speaker 1: So that I was playing l Words and Tim was
Speaker 1: playing Warner Huntington the third And.
Speaker 3: What production of Legally Blonde was this?
Speaker 1: This was not a professional production. This was in my hometown.
Speaker 1: So of Woggle Wogger Yeah, I'm a Wogger girl. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'd gone back there because I knew that my brother
Speaker 1: was very sadly passing away and he sort of had
Speaker 1: you know how they give you sort of an expiration
Speaker 1: date ish, and it was like, Okay, I'm going to
Speaker 1: be with my family around that time, just so we're
Speaker 1: all together. And I was already going to be there,
Speaker 1: and then the person who had played Emmett in Legally Blonde.
Speaker 1: This is some music theater trivia. The person who played
Speaker 1: Emmet is Brent. He's from Wagga but he had done
Speaker 1: the actual Australian tour and he I think maybe he
Speaker 1: was a swing or a cover of it, and he
Speaker 1: wanted to do it. So he called them and said,
Speaker 1: I'm going to come home and do it, and they
Speaker 1: went that's great, but if you're going to do Emmett,
Speaker 1: then we're going to need to find an l who
Speaker 1: was also a professional music theater performer and called me
Speaker 1: and said how much for you to come home and
Speaker 1: play L? And I was like, baby girl, I'm going
Speaker 1: to be there anyway. You just pay for my hair
Speaker 1: to get done and weekly minimum and I'm all yours
Speaker 1: because I love the show. And then Tim had been
Speaker 1: at UNI there.
Speaker 6: Yes, I studied at study at auger. I studied teaching,
Speaker 6: but then decided to teaching wasn't for me, and they
Speaker 6: had a wonderful acting course at the time, so I
Speaker 6: studying acting instead wanted to really love the production as well,
Speaker 6: and that's that's just how we met met Michelle there.
Speaker 4: And so so I did the I was Callahan in
Speaker 4: the Australian production of Legally Blonde, and it was with
Speaker 4: Lucy and so Milsey was playing your role.
Speaker 1: My beautiful meals.
Speaker 4: Yes, at what point? I don't remember El and Warner
Speaker 4: right Warner?
Speaker 3: Ever? Kissing was that early on?
Speaker 6: Was it very early on?
Speaker 3: Almost?
Speaker 6: I think the second scene of the show it almost
Speaker 6: immediately before Warner breaks up with L. Yeah. We shared
Speaker 6: a smooch on stage and then had a dinner scene
Speaker 6: where Warner has his has his one song singing about
Speaker 6: how he wants to be a little bit more serious
Speaker 6: and needs a more serious partner, breaks up with L
Speaker 6: and that sort of sets the whole story in motion.
Speaker 6: So every night we shared a little smooch and every
Speaker 6: night we broke up.
Speaker 2: Well practice, Michelle, how was that for you though? I
Speaker 2: mean that must have been incredibly difficult in two separate
Speaker 2: worlds that you were living. But you mentioned that your
Speaker 2: brother was incredibly ill. Yeah, and then you had to
Speaker 2: go on stage and be like and L is one
Speaker 2: of the happiest characters that you can play on stage.
Speaker 5: How did you pull that off?
Speaker 1: I think she helped me through it to be like
Speaker 1: my brother actually ended up passing away. I'd been doing
Speaker 1: the Edinburgh Fringe the month before, and he actually ended
Speaker 1: up passing away that month while I was in Edinburgh. Sorry,
Speaker 1: that's okay, you know, it's all right. We sort of
Speaker 1: knew that he was going to go, and I was
Speaker 1: very lucky that I was surrounded by all these beautiful
Speaker 1: performers in Edinburgh and I did the show that night.
Speaker 1: I just did my show, and I felt like, this
Speaker 1: is obviously like everyone talks about this and it's very wanky,
Speaker 1: but like the power of theater and that the power
Speaker 1: of that community is so beautiful, and so I think
Speaker 1: it was actually perfect for me. The night that my
Speaker 1: brother died, I had this bit in my one woman
Speaker 1: show where I would ask the audience if they had
Speaker 1: snow globes. It was just a quick throwaway line so
Speaker 1: that I could get out of snow globe. It was
Speaker 1: just a funny little joke. And the venue the day
Speaker 1: my brother died raised all this money and bought enough
Speaker 1: snow globes for every single audience member, so that when
Speaker 1: they got to the point where I said, who's got
Speaker 1: your snow globes, every single person had held a snow
Speaker 1: globe in the air. Yeah, it's so, so beautiful. And
Speaker 1: I just think like there's some real I don't know,
Speaker 1: there's some real healing that can be done as long
Speaker 1: as you're not relying on the audience, because you know,
Speaker 1: you don't want to get up there and use themostherapy.
Speaker 1: But I think you use your castmates in the community.
Speaker 1: It's it's one of the best places to heal from
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, that's that's amazing that they did that for you.
Speaker 3: How did you how did you keep it together? Yeah,
Speaker 3: when they all held up the snow clothes.
Speaker 1: I cry thinking about it now, But at the time,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, you get into that mode where
Speaker 1: you just you're doing the show, and I sort of
Speaker 1: stopped and I was like, okay, for anyone here who's
Speaker 1: like general public who doesn't know why they were handed
Speaker 1: just a random snow globe, because it was mostly you know,
Speaker 1: lots of Ozzie and UK comedians who had really rallied
Speaker 1: to be there, but there were also ticket buying public.
Speaker 1: They were like, okay, what's this pot? So I just
Speaker 1: was like, just so you know, my brother's dead, it's okay,
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep doing the show. This will be a
Speaker 1: memory for me and you will think this was a
Speaker 1: weird thing that happened one time, and that that's fine.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was very it was very beautiful. It
Speaker 1: was really nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think those moments in theater when you're
Speaker 4: actually in a theater and sharing that experience, because no
Speaker 4: two shows are the same, and as you know, no
Speaker 4: two audiences are the same. So yeah, that's the beauty
Speaker 4: of one night in theater and you go, cheapest man,
Speaker 4: this is quite so great.
Speaker 3: Yeah doing it?
Speaker 2: And Tim are you still are you still chasing that
Speaker 2: dream of theater and acting?
Speaker 5: Are you still in it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean mostly thanks to Michelle for the last
Speaker 6: few years, we've been doing shows together now for three years,
Speaker 6: comedy shows. Each each of those shows I've gotten, I've
Speaker 6: become more and more involved in, and like the first
Speaker 6: one that we did Average Bear in twenty twenty one
Speaker 6: was just the two of us and I just sort
Speaker 6: of sat in the back and was playing the music
Speaker 6: for the show and a couple of little characters here
Speaker 6: and there. And the second one was about Michelle being
Speaker 6: scammed during lockdown, and I played the scammer and again
Speaker 6: music as well, but bit more of an involved role.
Speaker 6: And then the third one is us again Legacy where
Speaker 6: I play I think twelve or thirteen different characters throughout.
Speaker 6: So the shows that we do together at the moment
Speaker 6: are my creative outlet as well. Yeah, so it's definitely
Speaker 6: still something that is incredibly I'm incredibly passionate about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how does that work for the two of you?
Speaker 2: Is it all collaborative or how does it?
Speaker 5: How do you work together?
Speaker 6: It's Michelle, It's definitely Michelle. Okay, Michelle.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I write the shows and I give him his lines
Speaker 1: and I, you know, a week before show. Yeah, more
Speaker 1: the first trial show, I'll say, oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: here's these songs I wrote and learn them and make
Speaker 1: them sound nice on the guitar, because I he's a
Speaker 1: much better musician than I am, so he really punches
Speaker 1: up the song.
Speaker 6: Quite often. I will read through the script and notice
Speaker 6: a line that I've said to Michelle months in advanced.
Speaker 1: Which is, yeah, I take his taken and put.
Speaker 6: Into the show somewhere for me.
Speaker 3: So that's the question I was going to ask you.
Speaker 4: Do you guys walk around with a notebook or voice
Speaker 4: notes in your pocket?
Speaker 3: And is it like a hard to switch off?
Speaker 1: It is hard to I mean the amount of times
Speaker 1: I've been like, Tim, can you text me sexyish fish
Speaker 1: flappy arms? Like he just like I just have had
Speaker 1: an idea that I'm like, this will get me back
Speaker 1: to that idea. I think he's my walking notebook to Yeah.
Speaker 6: It's always a text It's never can you just write
Speaker 6: this down? It's always text me this, text me this
Speaker 6: random line out of context that will make no sense
Speaker 6: to anybody, but I'll be able to turn it into something.
Speaker 1: I need a notification. I'm not good at checking my phone,
Speaker 1: so I need something that's like needs my attention.
Speaker 2: Were you funny as a kid or were both of
Speaker 2: you funny as a kid? I mean, how did comedy?
Speaker 2: You know you don't hear of too many female comedians.
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot more now, But like, is
Speaker 2: that something you wanted as a young girl.
Speaker 1: I think I just I wanted to be in musicals.
Speaker 1: That was my main thing that I wanted because I
Speaker 1: sing and I love singing, and I wanted to be
Speaker 1: an actor, and I saw a path. I think I
Speaker 1: just sort of saw you can have a bit of
Speaker 1: a head start if you make your own stuff, and
Speaker 1: I think that's what happened. But I always loved comedy.
Speaker 1: I never set out to be a stand up comedian,
Speaker 1: and I do describe myself as an actor rather than
Speaker 1: a stand up really because that's I think that's really
Speaker 1: what I am. But I yeah, I think I was
Speaker 1: always funny, and I think I always loved comedy, Like
Speaker 1: I've got all these VHS tapes of the Gala and
Speaker 1: my fav I was twelve years old and I made
Speaker 1: my friend sit down and watch Good News Week like
Speaker 1: I was a real comedy nerd. But I didn't think
Speaker 1: it was for me because, as you say, there weren't
Speaker 1: that many women. There were a few, but there weren't
Speaker 1: that many. And so now I think it's a really
Speaker 1: different landscape and I think it's very much less a
Speaker 1: boy's club. But yeah, I just sort of fell into
Speaker 1: it because I was like, well, I'm going to write
Speaker 1: my own shows so that I get to be the
Speaker 1: person who gets offered things rather than always having to
Speaker 1: audition for things. Like I did that very deliberately, and
Speaker 1: I've been very lucky. But I think that I didn't
Speaker 1: know what I was going to make, and I just
Speaker 1: I set out to make something and I liked making
Speaker 1: people laugh, and it turned out I was. I was
Speaker 1: alright at it, I suppose because I'd exposed myself to
Speaker 1: so much of it.
Speaker 4: Well, you were one of those kids that we see
Speaker 4: on Instagram just singing songs and making stuff up.
Speaker 3: Would that have been you if you're a little kid today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was a nightmare. And I if given
Speaker 1: access to like cameras. I had a video camera that
Speaker 1: my parents gave me and I used to make movies
Speaker 1: and all the time I'd interrupt my parents dinner parties
Speaker 1: and be like, guys, I've written a song, listen. I
Speaker 1: was so annoying. I was exhausted, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if I've gotten any better. I've just monetized it.
Speaker 3: Well done, Well done.
Speaker 1: That's a true gift.
Speaker 5: It is giving gifts right there.
Speaker 3: And Tim, were you always playing guitar or music? Always?
Speaker 3: It is guitar your instruments?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I Guitar's my main instrument. I play a little
Speaker 6: bit of others, like a little bit of piano, a
Speaker 6: little bit of banjo.
Speaker 1: Everything. He's that kind of just picks it up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm quite lucky. I've got quite a good ear
Speaker 6: that I can, but guitar is my main one. And
Speaker 6: my dad was is a guitarist, hobby guitarist. I would
Speaker 6: always pick up his guitar and I got lessons would be,
Speaker 6: you know, just strumming incredibly annoying noises that they would
Speaker 6: have absolutely hated around the house. Yeah. So I describe
Speaker 6: myself probably as as a musician first, then actor and
Speaker 6: comedian is like right down the bottom for me.
Speaker 4: So when you were at UNI, so let's just go
Speaker 4: back to that. You're at UNI at Woga and what
Speaker 4: you're studying. When you realize that, do you think a
Speaker 4: lot of teachers end up as performers?
Speaker 6: I think so.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Lawyers.
Speaker 6: Lawyers love it. Yeah, lawyers absolutely love it. Even in
Speaker 6: my cohort at UNI, of the teachers, there was quite
Speaker 6: a number that transferred over into into acting as well.
Speaker 6: And we're like, this teaching is not for me. I
Speaker 6: was going to be an English and drama teacher. They
Speaker 6: were my two passionate subjects at school and things that
Speaker 6: I loved. So I was doing acting at UNI as
Speaker 6: like an elective for the drama teaching, and I had
Speaker 6: just found myself drawn more to that than to the teaching.
Speaker 6: And I distinctly remember like calling my mum when I'd
Speaker 6: made the decision to swap over, expecting her to have
Speaker 6: a bit more push back because in her mind, you know,
Speaker 6: teaching is a much more solid career than acting. But
Speaker 6: I told her, and she took a pause that, I mean,
Speaker 6: it could have been two seconds, it could have been
Speaker 6: two hours. I'm not really sure how long the pause was.
Speaker 6: But immediately she was like, great, all right, if that's
Speaker 6: what you want to do, if that's what you're passionate about,
Speaker 6: that's what we're going to support you on your mind.
Speaker 6: We're going to do it.
Speaker 1: So nice.
Speaker 6: It was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to just take the stance just for
Speaker 2: two seconds. As I was a full time teacher and
Speaker 2: I still actually work at a school part time, and man,
Speaker 2: the teaching profession would have loved to have had you
Speaker 2: as a teacher. To be musical, to be funny, and
Speaker 2: to be a good guy.
Speaker 5: We need more male teachers. So I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 5: feel by, I feel sad for the.
Speaker 6: My lecturer has kind of felt a little bit the
Speaker 6: same at the.
Speaker 5: Time as well's.
Speaker 4: I mean, a lot of actors, because you know, acting
Speaker 4: is a bit like surfing. You kind of paddle out
Speaker 4: and paddling out through them and you've got to sit
Speaker 4: out the back and wait for the job, you know.
Speaker 4: And I love what you're talking about, Michelle saying, well,
Speaker 4: while I'm sitting out waiting for the job, I'm going
Speaker 4: to make up my own stuff and monetize that, you know.
Speaker 4: And then the wave comes through and you surf that
Speaker 4: all the way into the beach.
Speaker 3: And now you've got to paddle all the way back out.
Speaker 3: You can always go back to teaching. That's it. It's nice,
Speaker 3: always nice to have there, and it's always there.
Speaker 6: I do like I like to teach music to people,
Speaker 6: and I like to like all that sort of stuff
Speaker 6: is really fun and enjoyable for me. So I think
Speaker 6: there's a world where where one day I will do
Speaker 6: something like that.
Speaker 1: And that's great news for us, super anua, fantastic news.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 5: We just need to pay teachers. That's that's why a
Speaker 5: lot of people go.
Speaker 2: And it's not for me because you get the pay
Speaker 2: and you go, crap, Yeah, okay, that's not good for
Speaker 2: the amount of hours.
Speaker 5: So much, so much.
Speaker 1: My sister's a teacher, and yeah it just looks it
Speaker 1: looks exhausting, but both my parents were teachers. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: big teacher family, so I didn't really know because I
Speaker 1: grew up and more guys, I was like, I guess
Speaker 1: you grew up and you become a teacher, and then
Speaker 1: that's kind of it. Like all the adults I know
Speaker 1: were teachers, So that's the job.
Speaker 2: And how do they feel about you now with the
Speaker 2: career that you've leapt into.
Speaker 1: And do it well in I think now they feel good.
Speaker 1: I think for a long time they were like, oh god.
Speaker 1: I think the first time my mum saw me get
Speaker 1: recognized in the wild, something changed for her and she
Speaker 1: was like, oh okay, because even now every like what
Speaker 1: I was doing. I first got the role on Sean
Speaker 1: mccayleff's Matters Hell, which was my first like proper TV gig.
Speaker 1: That was like not just one or two episodes, you know,
Speaker 1: it was my first like I'm joining the cast of
Speaker 1: this show and this is my proper job. I remember
Speaker 1: asking me and will they will they pay you for that?
Speaker 3: Or no?
Speaker 1: Like she doesn't she doesn't understand like the world, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's actually it's a real shame that my brother's not
Speaker 1: around because he's the only one who would really properly
Speaker 1: understand all the things that I've done and be able
Speaker 1: to really acknowledge those achievements. But it's okay. I make
Speaker 1: Tim give me compliments.
Speaker 4: And yeah, how do you guys maintain the work life
Speaker 4: balance in your relationship.
Speaker 6: I think one thing that has really helped us be
Speaker 6: able to successfully work together, and I mean we tour
Speaker 6: of the world together and do shows together. Now, I
Speaker 6: think one thing that really helped is that we met
Speaker 6: at work, like we met doing a show, so we
Speaker 6: immediately how we were at work and then learned how
Speaker 6: we were outside of that afterwards. Working together first has
Speaker 6: really sort of laid the foundation for being able to
Speaker 6: continue to work together, and we sort of found our
Speaker 6: life outside of that afterwards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's difficult, but we just sort of
Speaker 1: log into like a different mode. Like if we're on
Speaker 1: the road and we need to do something, we'll kind
Speaker 1: of just like switch into like tool manager mode almost
Speaker 1: if we don't have one there or if my management's
Speaker 1: not there, he will just sort of whatever gap. He
Speaker 1: just sort of patches up things around me as I
Speaker 1: leak different things because that's just my role, not physically
Speaker 1: really women leaky. It's a great question because we do
Speaker 1: struggle I think to not always be talking about work
Speaker 1: and always be thinking about I found during COVID I
Speaker 1: really had a hard time because my self worth was
Speaker 1: very tied to my work and I hadn't realized that
Speaker 1: until I got to COVID, and I was like, oh, God,
Speaker 1: like what what am I if not this? And so
Speaker 1: I think that was a real eye opener for me
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, sometimes you just need to like
Speaker 1: walk the dog and go for a picnic and not
Speaker 1: not take any notes and not like, you know, notice
Speaker 1: how someone's walking and see if you can try on
Speaker 1: their walk or their whatever, you know, just chill out.
Speaker 1: So I'm still working on that. Really, I think you're
Speaker 1: better at that, Timm. You're better at winding down.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think think so. But I also think that
Speaker 6: the job that we do, we are incredibly lucky because
Speaker 6: we just have these incredible working holidays all around the world,
Speaker 6: like we just have to, Like we spend a month
Speaker 6: every year in Edinburgh at the Fringe and we work
Speaker 6: for an hour a day really there. I mean, of
Speaker 6: course there's much more involved than just doing the one hour.
Speaker 1: Show, but we've got such a great team around us
Speaker 1: now that we don't have to, you know, we're not
Speaker 1: out flying in the streets anymore, and.
Speaker 6: We get to enjoy the places that we are. And
Speaker 6: I think we are quite good at making the most
Speaker 6: of enjoying the place that we are, yeah physically at,
Speaker 6: and getting the most out of the holiday around the work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just did off Broadway and we went to
Speaker 1: see a bunch of other off Broadway shows, and you
Speaker 1: know that was so lovely, and yeah, we do try
Speaker 1: to make the most of it.
Speaker 5: I love that.
Speaker 2: I just want to take you back in time a
Speaker 2: little bit more to that of the music. Did you
Speaker 2: do this back to legally Blonde? You guys had not
Speaker 2: known each other until you were in production with each other.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, we didn't know each other. I sort of
Speaker 1: knew of him because he had just dated my friend
Speaker 1: who was the stage manager, and they'd broken up. So
Speaker 1: I came in actually with a bit of a chip
Speaker 1: on my shoulder.
Speaker 6: Against I think we had met.
Speaker 3: We'd actually met in and he sings a song on that.
Speaker 4: That's the other guy sings a song about a chip
Speaker 4: on a shoulder.
Speaker 6: We had met in passing when I was still dating
Speaker 6: that our mutual friend.
Speaker 1: Now we're great, I was great friends we go, but.
Speaker 6: Michelle was doing a different production in Wager at the time,
Speaker 6: maybe six months beforehand, and I was thinking about doing
Speaker 6: the local musical of Mary Poppins at the start of
Speaker 6: the year, and I was a bit nervous as I
Speaker 6: haven't really done a musical before. I don't think i'd
Speaker 6: be very good at it. And Michelle was actually the
Speaker 6: one who convinced me in a conversation to audition for it,
Speaker 6: and I ended up getting the lead role, the role
Speaker 6: of Bert Well, thank you. It was very fun. And
Speaker 6: then that then led me into doing Legally Blonde as well,
Speaker 6: so she she was the one who started the whole thing. Really, now,
Speaker 6: I'm a puppa master, truly, truly.
Speaker 2: And at what point did you recognize the attraction with
Speaker 2: each other? Like was it on stage that final you know,
Speaker 2: two weeks in or what made it click for the
Speaker 2: both of you.
Speaker 1: I think it must have been on stage, because I
Speaker 1: wasn't really conscious of it until the final night. There's
Speaker 1: a bit where Elle kisses Warner and I kissed him
Speaker 1: and I didn't quite get the kiss right and I
Speaker 1: went in for another one, so I think at some
Speaker 1: point there. I remember there was a time where I
Speaker 1: was doing sound checking because Ellwood's wear so many different
Speaker 1: and there's so many quick changes, and so there's some layering,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's the bunny corset, and I would
Speaker 1: start the show in the corset and then put other
Speaker 1: things on top. And so I was just out in
Speaker 1: this courset. I had just gotten ready and I was
Speaker 1: doing my sound check out out on the stage and
Speaker 1: Tim had seen me on one of the backstage screens
Speaker 1: and came out and gave me his jacket, and I
Speaker 1: remember being like, oh, because we both had partners at
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think that throughout the whole period of the show,
Speaker 6: the rehearsals and the show itself, because it was quite
Speaker 6: a limited run really, it was only a couple of weeks,
Speaker 6: I felt this attraction to Michelle and her like I
Speaker 6: knew the grief that she was going through with losing
Speaker 6: her brother overseas and just you know, being in a
Speaker 6: tough spot. The way that she held herself through that
Speaker 6: and the kindness and empathy that she had for everybody
Speaker 6: else in the show kind of pushing her own stuff aside,
Speaker 6: was really intriguing to me. But I think at the
Speaker 6: time at least just felt like felt like that classic
Speaker 6: sort of showmance thing that is never going to go anywhere.
Speaker 6: It happens on some shows, or that had happened in
Speaker 6: the past on some shows where you know, you do
Speaker 6: a show, you work so closely with someone that you
Speaker 6: feel this attraction, but you know that there's no substance
Speaker 6: to it potentially, And that's kind of just what I
Speaker 6: thought that it would be, because, like she says, we
Speaker 6: both had partners at the time as well, in relationships
Speaker 6: that looking back, we weren't particularly happy, and and then
Speaker 6: we just sort of kept getting to know each other
Speaker 6: afterwards and started to realize it, Oh, I know, there
Speaker 6: is actually something here, something that is very intriguing about
Speaker 6: this person that I really want to keep getting to
Speaker 6: know and still want to keep getting to know.
Speaker 4: And that would have been a bit of a tell
Speaker 4: tale given that the show was over, because often what
Speaker 4: happens and shows, that's what you're that's what you're talking
Speaker 4: about every night after the show, you're having a beer
Speaker 4: and doing a post mortem of what happened on stage.
Speaker 4: And then suddenly when the show's over, that part of
Speaker 4: it's gone. You don't you're not connecting on that level,
Speaker 4: and you're back to life, and like I said, you
Speaker 4: go back to that metaphor of surfing. You're back paddling
Speaker 4: out looking for you next gig again. Hey, Michelle, you
Speaker 4: just mentioned before that that intrigued me. This will let
Speaker 4: our listener know a bit more about what happens. You
Speaker 4: said when you're in Glasgow and you're doing your show
Speaker 4: and it's one hour now, you've got a team behind
Speaker 4: you working. You said something about we don't have to
Speaker 4: do something something out on the street anymore.
Speaker 3: Is that spooking? What did you say?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Flying, yeah, flying?
Speaker 4: So can you take us into that world a bit
Speaker 4: because often we think, oh, these guys are just turn up,
Speaker 4: they do the show, they bag her off, heading off
Speaker 4: to the next city or whatever. So but this is
Speaker 4: really grassroots, down in the dirt, promoting your own shows correctly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the way sometimes because sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: fellow actors will be like, oh my god, you've made it,
Speaker 1: You've done it, You're so good. Oh you oh you
Speaker 1: just got off of that, or you didn't have to
Speaker 1: audition for it, and I'm like, I didn't have to
Speaker 1: audition for it, but what I did have to do
Speaker 1: was stand on the streets of rainy Edinburgh year after
Speaker 1: year after year, handing out flyers to strangers saying please
Speaker 1: come and take a chance on me. I'm from Australia,
Speaker 1: I'm at three pm. I've got one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: tickets to sell, like, please come along. I promise it'll
Speaker 1: be good, and like learning to sell myself and just
Speaker 1: going through the trenches of that and then and that's
Speaker 1: the nature of Edinburgh Fringe. It still is like that.
Speaker 1: We don't do that here at Melbourne Comedy Festival really.
Speaker 1: I mean you sometimes see people at the front of
Speaker 1: town Hall flying a little bit and I'll always take
Speaker 1: a flyer and I always try and see their shows,
Speaker 1: especially when they're flying for themselves. But yeah, it took me,
Speaker 1: I think like ten years of doing edinm Refringe to
Speaker 1: get to the point where I am now, which is
Speaker 1: like I'll sell out and it'll be fine, but like
Speaker 1: to actually make money. Because you do it as an
Speaker 1: investment in yourself, you get so much better. You're also
Speaker 1: running around to do gigs because you need to a
Speaker 1: make money and you need to get in front of
Speaker 1: as many audience members as you can because it's a
Speaker 1: great way to sell tickets to your show is being
Speaker 1: on a lineup and do your ten minutes getch or
Speaker 1: your five minutes song or your whatever. So you're running
Speaker 1: around town like the entire city shuts down if you
Speaker 1: haven't been dead and refringe, like you have to go beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful city, but there's no real roads that are open,
Speaker 1: Like you're sort of running everywhere from old town to
Speaker 1: newtown and it's really beautiful and romantic. It's always raining,
Speaker 1: and you really make friends in the trenches. It's such
Speaker 1: a beautiful place and you become so good because you
Speaker 1: have to adjust to six different audiences in a night.
Speaker 1: And I'm still someone who like I don't need to
Speaker 1: go to edinburgfringe. I've done. We've done it season at
Speaker 1: Soho Theater. We're about to go and do our tour
Speaker 1: of the UK, like we don't need to break the
Speaker 1: UK necessarily. But I want to keep getting better. I
Speaker 1: want to keep going back to Edinburgh and seeing those
Speaker 1: people who are out on the street. I want to
Speaker 1: see their shows and I want to I just want
Speaker 1: to be there. I just find it so intoxicating. But
Speaker 1: the flying is so hard and so exhausted.
Speaker 6: It's such a such a vulnerable thing to stand there
Speaker 6: with pictures of your own face on a small piece
Speaker 6: of paper and kind of just like open yourself up
Speaker 6: to everybody walking past, and because there are in somewhere.
Speaker 6: I think the last Fringe there was something like thirty
Speaker 6: five hundred different shows. There was a massive, massive the
Speaker 6: spigger starts, that's all the while. So to be standing
Speaker 6: there and say to sort of have to prove to
Speaker 6: someone or tell someone that they should take a chance
Speaker 6: on you when there's three thy four hundred and ninety
Speaker 6: nine other shows that they could go to. There's so
Speaker 6: many more no's than there are yes is, which is
Speaker 6: I mean, just how it is in the industry. But
Speaker 6: you're just doing that after hour over there?
Speaker 5: Do they ever say, tell me a joke and I'll come, yeah.
Speaker 6: I can imagine that.
Speaker 5: Fe like some smart ass going all right, tell me
Speaker 5: a job.
Speaker 1: Come yeah, it's so funny.
Speaker 3: Tell me shait, okay, your fish.
Speaker 5: How do you deal with hecklers?
Speaker 1: I don't often get hecklers, but I usually it's people
Speaker 1: just chatting who just want to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: They just want so I never get any real rude hecklers.
Speaker 1: So people chat, and when they chat, I flirt with
Speaker 1: them like I just will say I'll be like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, dad, and I'll go and sit on their knee.
Speaker 3: I will.
Speaker 1: I feel like killing with kindness is the easiest way
Speaker 1: to go because they want to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: And if you let them be a part of it
Speaker 1: and then set up a boundary and go, here's what
Speaker 1: your job is. I'll come and see you when I
Speaker 1: want to talk to you, and I will not throw
Speaker 1: to you when it's not your line. That I think
Speaker 1: they're a bit easier to deal with because you can
Speaker 1: really unsettle the room. But I once hosting this show
Speaker 1: called Late in Live, which is an Edinburgh fringe show
Speaker 1: and it is notorious. But I think it was Russell
Speaker 1: Brand or maybe Dylan Moren, I can't remember. There's a
Speaker 1: famous comedian who is famous for like smashing a bottle
Speaker 1: over his head and being like, is this what you want?
Speaker 1: Like people go to heckl It has a traditional like
Speaker 1: people it's really late. It goes to three am and
Speaker 1: people will come and they will heckle, and it's kind
Speaker 1: of you're just being thrown to the lion's den. But
Speaker 1: it pays well and it's really you know, forged in
Speaker 1: fire kind of thing and it's changed over the last
Speaker 1: few years and that now they all have all female
Speaker 1: hosts and they're trying to have more queer people in
Speaker 1: the lineup and a more gentle audience. But when I
Speaker 1: first did it, it was very much still in that
Speaker 1: in that space, and I was hosting and this guy,
Speaker 1: this guy yelled out, I'm like, everyone say this, Everyone
Speaker 1: say this, everyone say pretty and funny.
Speaker 5: What a catch.
Speaker 1: And then this guy yells out, my daughter is fitter
Speaker 1: than you. And I was like, random, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: and everyone booed him, and I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's late in life, guys. We're very open here. If
Speaker 1: this guy wants to fuck his daughter, you know, as
Speaker 1: long as he doesn't act on, we're not gonna do it.
Speaker 1: He's gonna go to the doctor. We're gonna all call
Speaker 1: the police. It's gonna be fine. And that's the only
Speaker 1: time I've ever had to throw someone under the bus
Speaker 1: to you really just be like okay, mate, Like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make everyone hate you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't. You really can't invite them and have
Speaker 6: a conversation with them, because that's what they want to
Speaker 6: be a part of it.
Speaker 2: That always it's like an online troll, isn't it engage
Speaker 2: don't engage?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they have lots of really good bounces at
Speaker 1: that show as well that will just come in and eject.
Speaker 6: You just diract people out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no one can be bounced from listening to
Speaker 3: your new album.
Speaker 1: Yes you can home all you like exactly.
Speaker 3: Trilogy mixtape. Tell us a bit about this album.
Speaker 6: It was so much fun to put together. It's literally
Speaker 6: the timeline was was crazy. The album itself is the
Speaker 6: songs of the three shows that we have done together,
Speaker 6: the three comedy shows, plus a couple of pop songs
Speaker 6: that Michelle has written as well, and one from her
Speaker 6: double danim Day's, which is a sketch duo that she
Speaker 6: did before the pandemic.
Speaker 1: Was My Edinburgh Flying Day, I'm Begging on the streets day.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, But we've always been asked by people
Speaker 6: after shows, where can I listen to these songs? When
Speaker 6: can we do this? And there's always been I mean,
Speaker 6: I guess I want for both of us to put together.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we wanted to, and I always lied to
Speaker 1: people and said we're doing it, we're recording it right now.
Speaker 1: I always lied, but then we finally did it.
Speaker 6: We finally did it, but we truly the timeline for
Speaker 6: it was this year is an incredibly busy year, which
Speaker 6: is a wonderful, wonderful thing to say. It's it's really
Speaker 6: nice to be busy. But we had I think a
Speaker 6: week to get in the studio. Michelle had three days
Speaker 6: recording vocals. I had maybe four days doing some of
Speaker 6: the guitar and vocals as well. That was between a
Speaker 6: festival and then heading over to the US to do
Speaker 6: some shows in the US. And then our producer, Tom.
Speaker 1: Tom Zahara amazing does all the music for Auntie Donna.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he did just these incredible work to put it
Speaker 6: all together and get it out in time for the
Speaker 6: comedy festival when we got back to then do a
Speaker 6: launch concert of the show.
Speaker 5: How many songs on the album?
Speaker 1: Just like twenty.
Speaker 5: You've Gone, Taylor Swift, You've Gone? The double album I
Speaker 5: really have.
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to open it. How many tracks are there?
Speaker 6: I think it's it's twenty two to twenty four. I
Speaker 6: think somewhere around there.
Speaker 3: It's prolific all How Michelle, how would you describe it?
Speaker 1: I would describe it. Yeah, it's a little musical comedy
Speaker 1: journey through my last free shows, the trilogy, which I
Speaker 1: call them, I feel like I've done a lot of
Speaker 1: wrapping up, like I mean, doing this recording the album
Speaker 1: with like my favorite songs from each show, and I've
Speaker 1: just written a book as well, which is like I
Speaker 1: take a lot of my favorite stories from that and
Speaker 1: also a lot of other stuff, and just like, oh god,
Speaker 1: all my material feels like it's out now. Like as
Speaker 1: soon as the book comes out, everything will just be
Speaker 1: like here's every thought I've ever had in every song
Speaker 1: I've ever written, and then I just have to sort
Speaker 1: of start again, which actually very very exciting.
Speaker 6: It's also really nice for us to have as well,
Speaker 6: because we we I mean, obviously we can sit at
Speaker 6: home and play the songs on the guitar and do
Speaker 6: that sort of stuff as well, but there are there's
Speaker 6: there's songs in there that kind of evoke memories and
Speaker 6: moments from shows or from places or tours that we
Speaker 6: don't even really think about until we hear it. And
Speaker 6: to sort of just have that professionally produced and able
Speaker 6: to listen to at home, it's really cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wanted to give the audience something that
Speaker 1: they've been asking for because they're so nice to me,
Speaker 1: and they give me their money and their time and
Speaker 1: their attention, and those are the three things that I
Speaker 1: need to survive. Those are my Maslow's hierarchy. So I just, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wanted I want them to be able to listen
Speaker 1: to them and for free. You know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to charge people for it.
Speaker 6: But if they want to buy it on iTunes, they
Speaker 6: can do that too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they probably are.
Speaker 5: I don't know how it's going to be a link.
Speaker 2: How do you to work through challenges in their relationship?
Speaker 2: Are you both good communicators or.
Speaker 6: I think so.
Speaker 1: I think I'm a very good communicator, to the point
Speaker 1: where i'm I communicate too much or maybe that's not
Speaker 1: necessarily true, but I always want to talk about how
Speaker 1: I'm feeling and how you're feeling and what's going on
Speaker 1: for both of us, and I think we have a
Speaker 1: pretty good system.
Speaker 6: I think we do. I think we've learned to both
Speaker 6: be better at communicating over the years because we've been
Speaker 6: together now for eight years. I think this is our
Speaker 6: ninth year together. Long time, long time. And I know
Speaker 6: myself personally, I was not a great communicator at the
Speaker 6: start of the relationship, but I think that we have
Speaker 6: gotten really really good at working through, Like we know
Speaker 6: each other's strengths and weaknesses so well. After that that
Speaker 6: amount of time, it doesn't take much for one and
Speaker 6: one of us to see the other one struggling in
Speaker 6: a way that even they might not necessarily know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we get ahead of each other's often crash.
Speaker 6: Often ahead of it before we're ahead of our own stuff,
Speaker 6: which I find really interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we sort of have our general rule and general
Speaker 1: approach is like to assume the best of each other
Speaker 1: all the time. And I think that's a great way
Speaker 1: to move through the world in any way. But for
Speaker 1: a relationship, it's really nice because it means that like
Speaker 1: the first question isn't like it's never why the fuck
Speaker 1: did you do this? Or I can't believe you've done this.
Speaker 1: It's always like, hey, are you okay? Because it is
Speaker 1: out of character for you to have done this? Or
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like this, do you think that I'm over Like?
Speaker 1: Am I overreacting? Am I taking this the wrong way?
Speaker 1: And my first rule as well for tim is if
Speaker 1: I'm crying because I'm taking something too seriously or if
Speaker 1: I'm just clearly overloaded. Is for him to tell me
Speaker 1: to shut the fuck up and have fun, or like
Speaker 1: to laugh at me and joke about it, like I really,
Speaker 1: I don't want my feelings to be taken seriously unless
Speaker 1: they need to be, and so we don't. We try
Speaker 1: not to validate each other's bullshit, and we trust each
Speaker 1: other when the other one says that's not real. Come on,
Speaker 1: let's go get a cake.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's often, it's often, let's yeah, it certainly does.
Speaker 6: The other thing is, it's so much of the issues
Speaker 6: that we have as people ourselves can just be solved
Speaker 6: by getting outside and going for like a walk as well.
Speaker 6: That's one of Michelle's big things is that she needs
Speaker 6: to have a big walk.
Speaker 1: So often sometimes Tim takes me for a walk, like
Speaker 1: I'm I think she needs a walk.
Speaker 6: It's just a yeah, just knowing, knowing how the other
Speaker 6: person's brain works. Is it's been nice, it's nice to
Speaker 6: it's beautiful.
Speaker 5: We want to support each other.
Speaker 3: We do a bit of that.
Speaker 4: Get out there, go for a walk, come on, it's nice,
Speaker 4: get some get some air and air through the gills.
Speaker 4: I do want to just remind you of is the
Speaker 4: is the pillow fort still a technique that you use.
Speaker 4: There was a great early story with you guys getting
Speaker 4: together around a pillow fort, and I just love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this was beautiful. So yeah, we'd been talking
Speaker 1: for ages after Legally Blonde, and we were discussing I
Speaker 1: was just starting to feel quite overwhelmed by things, and
Speaker 1: I had a lot of auditions coming up, and I
Speaker 1: think I just started working in TV a fair bit
Speaker 1: and I started being recognized and I wanted to hide,
Speaker 1: and I was I just want to get into like
Speaker 1: a fort. And we talked about what our perfect foot
Speaker 1: would be and I told him all the things that
Speaker 1: the perfect foot would be and he I went over
Speaker 1: to his house and he had turned his bedroom into
Speaker 1: that fort. And that is genuinely what sealed the deal.
Speaker 6: Like I was like, okay, which is good because I
Speaker 6: put some holes in the wall with some girls. I
Speaker 6: don't think I got my bund back, but it was.
Speaker 5: So worth it. Yeah, Oh that's a really beautiful story.
Speaker 5: Thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very, very thoughtful.
Speaker 5: There's a bit of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we still do that. You still do things like that,
Speaker 1: which is really nice. I'm a bit more romantic.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's more a metaphorical pillow for it than a
Speaker 6: real one.
Speaker 1: Now it's more like a bar, a cup of tea
Speaker 1: and some snacks.
Speaker 4: I think I think a pillow fort is in your
Speaker 4: future again. I think that's a great iyea a random pillow.
Speaker 3: For block out the world if you got the kid's
Speaker 3: on your mind. Guys, No, we have a dog and
Speaker 3: we really like her.
Speaker 1: I have endmitriosis, so it would be very hard for
Speaker 1: me to have kids. But I also just I really
Speaker 1: have this feeling of like I am so I'm just
Speaker 1: so happy for my little version of me, like that
Speaker 1: she gets to do this job that was her dream job,
Speaker 1: and she gets to live her dream life, and I
Speaker 1: just don't want to like interrupt her enjoyment of it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's this weird thing,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I did my third show, Legacy that we
Speaker 1: did together. I say that like I'm always collecting things
Speaker 1: for a little girl, and like my life is a
Speaker 1: collection of stories written for a girl that doesn't exist
Speaker 1: because she would ruin it, and that's not necessarily fair,
Speaker 1: but like it's like it's actually maybe that little girl
Speaker 1: is the little girl that I was, and so I
Speaker 1: feel kind of that way about it, or maybe I
Speaker 1: just commenced myself that because of the end though, it's
Speaker 1: just easier to But we're very much dog people. I
Speaker 1: never see a baby in sort of coup, Like I
Speaker 1: like my friend's babies, but I never see a baby
Speaker 1: and go, oh my god, the baby. But every dog
Speaker 1: I say, I'm like, give them that dog.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like, we both have always been that way that
Speaker 6: I felt a little bit of guilt for thinking that,
Speaker 6: for not wanting to give my parents grandkids. But my
Speaker 6: sister has always wanted kids and has just had her
Speaker 6: first baby about a month ago, So yeah, that has
Speaker 6: sort of ticked the checklist for me. There the guilt
Speaker 6: has gone there. Yeah, but then that's not a thing
Speaker 6: that that either of us want. But it also feels
Speaker 6: like a bit of a shame because I feel like
Speaker 6: we would have maybe a deluded thing to say, but
Speaker 6: quite talented kids. I think I think they would be.
Speaker 1: I think we'd be good parents.
Speaker 6: I think we would be good parents. But I also
Speaker 6: think foster parents or just cool. Aren't an uncle is
Speaker 6: a good yer?
Speaker 1: Yeah? We like, yeah, wool aren't an uncle?
Speaker 5: Like that's nice? Yeah, I have two nephews.
Speaker 1: My brother had two kids and they're really really great kids,
Speaker 1: and I love them very much and I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see what Erin's baby turns out to be. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very like I also have that, you know, genetic stuff.
Speaker 1: My father passed away from cancer, my brother passed away
Speaker 1: from a similar cancer, and it looks like we might
Speaker 1: have like a genetic disposition to maybe not live that long.
Speaker 1: And so that's another question. Two questions, really, is one,
Speaker 1: if you're not going to live that long, do you
Speaker 1: want to have a child and have to sacrifice that
Speaker 1: so much of your limited time? And the other one
Speaker 1: is like do you want to pass that on to
Speaker 1: a child? And I mean I would want it to
Speaker 1: be pasted onto me. I suppose, because I'm happy I exist.
Speaker 1: But it's just another factor to consider. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fair enough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, being the cool aunt and uncle taking a loop
Speaker 4: machine and a guitar over to create a couple of hours,
Speaker 4: A couple of hours, A couple of hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: My nephew told me. He sent me a message the
Speaker 1: other day saying, Auntie Michelle, you are slaying on Instagram and.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 6: It's great.
Speaker 2: We do something called the two minute shower to finish,
Speaker 2: and it's basically keep your answers super short, and we're
Speaker 2: going to ask you both the same questions.
Speaker 3: Okay, great Number one? What's your best quality?
Speaker 1: My kindness?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 6: I was gonna say kindness for me as well?
Speaker 5: What would be the first song on a mix tape
Speaker 5: that you were making for each other?
Speaker 6: Falling slowly from Once?
Speaker 1: Oh? You know I was going to say the same one. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe yeah, maybe I'm going to just kind of say
Speaker 1: falling slowly as well. I'm just going to say it's.
Speaker 3: Such a great song. You guys would both be great
Speaker 3: in Once.
Speaker 6: And we love to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a show just because I'm thinking about it. Yeah, gosh,
Speaker 3: all right, what about this relationship? Are you grateful for friendship?
Speaker 6: Everything? There's nothing that's that I'm not grateful for.
Speaker 1: I also think everything.
Speaker 5: What do you miss when you're not together?
Speaker 6: Silliness, laughing?
Speaker 5: You guys are good at this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we appreciate this.
Speaker 4: This is the last question. Describe each other in one word.
Speaker 4: Oh that's stumped them. Honey, God, it's so hard because.
Speaker 6: I've got just so many words that I would use
Speaker 6: to describe Michelle. I think can I hyphenate yes, no,
Speaker 6: because there would just be an on running sentence. I
Speaker 6: think wholesome.
Speaker 1: That's nice. I was going to say, gentle love it.
Speaker 4: Michelle and Tim, thanks so much for your time today.
Speaker 4: We will put your new album trilogy mixtape on our
Speaker 4: show notes so our listener can And what's the name
Speaker 4: of the book.
Speaker 1: Oh, the books called My Brother's Ashes are in a
Speaker 1: sandwich bag and you can pre order that online at
Speaker 1: the moment. Comes out in September. Okay, it's my favorite
Speaker 1: thing I've ever done.
Speaker 5: Oh, that's fantastic.
Speaker 3: Is it a resealable Texas tough bag?
Speaker 1: It's a Hercules bag, which and I always say, like
Speaker 1: it says Hercules on it, or perhaps they've given me
Speaker 1: somebody else's ambitiously named brother.
Speaker 5: Your time, all the best things to you, your success,
Speaker 5: Thank you you too.
Speaker 6: Thanks guys.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that chat. That was so great.
Speaker 5: What a lovely relationship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they know their place and they know what
Speaker 4: they want, you know, and it's sort of like they
Speaker 4: support each other. I didn't realize that Tim was such
Speaker 4: a pivotal part in the act that Michelle has so
Speaker 4: that would you know, really give them a lot of
Speaker 4: fun and creativity.
Speaker 2: I mean, it would be so nice to sort of,
Speaker 2: you know, there's your lover, partner, best friend, you know,
Speaker 2: right behind you on the keyboards or guitar on a
Speaker 2: big stage, like to have him there. I just think
Speaker 2: that would be that to me, would feel really good,
Speaker 2: Like talk about having your back.
Speaker 5: He would have her back.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: But the word that came to mind as you were
Speaker 4: saying that was safety and feeling safe. And when you
Speaker 4: feel safe, you know, it gives you confidence. Yeah, that's right,
Speaker 4: And I'm really glad. I'm really glad that I asked
Speaker 4: the question about the flying right.
Speaker 3: Yes, I didn't not know that.
Speaker 2: I mean I just assumed that that's what that was.
Speaker 2: It's like your hand out fliers. But when she went
Speaker 2: into detail about how much you've got to do that,
Speaker 2: and that's a talent in itself, I don't think. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I could do that, stand out there
Speaker 2: with a picture of myself and promote like that.
Speaker 4: Well, a lot of us, as theater goers and consumers
Speaker 4: of movies and things, you think, you look at these
Speaker 4: people who are performing and you go, you don't really
Speaker 4: think of the hard yards and the shoe leather that
Speaker 4: they have. They span that's right and done in order
Speaker 4: to get where they are. Remember Hugh Grant years ago
Speaker 4: would talk about, yeah, ten years to being a you
Speaker 4: know over an association. Yeah, and that is the case here.
Speaker 4: But that's how they get so good, you know, you
Speaker 4: look at those ten thousand hour books or whatever.
Speaker 3: That's how they get so good.
Speaker 5: I mean, just quickly.
Speaker 2: I watched that Steve Martin documentary and it's an incredible,
Speaker 2: incredible documentary, and he did like how many years he'd
Speaker 2: like twenty years of stand up, of people hating him,
Speaker 2: loving him, hating him again until before I even got
Speaker 2: in front of the TV camera, you know, so and
Speaker 2: you look at him and go, he's a superstar, which
Speaker 2: of course it is now. But again, when you hear
Speaker 2: the story from how early he wanted to be stand
Speaker 2: up and how hard that was and talking to no one.
Speaker 3: In it at a pub, yeah, and get off something funny.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it. That's not an easy job.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: That to me was when I first started in showbiz
Speaker 4: and how it was gifted to me. Had my auditions
Speaker 4: and did things, but I did not do what Michelle's
Speaker 4: talking about, and I felt like I didn't deserve to
Speaker 4: be there, at some points because I hadn't put those
Speaker 4: hard yards in. I mean, forty years later, it's a
Speaker 4: bit of a different story, but at the beginning it's
Speaker 4: it's a challenge. So they're fantastic and more power to them,
Speaker 4: and they're off to the States and as Michelle said,
Speaker 4: they'll go back to Edinburgh and do more.
Speaker 3: And she's got a wonderful book coming out with that
Speaker 3: Killer Time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know the book, the album, It's all happening.
Speaker 4: Yes, and the album is Trilogy Mixtape and like she said,
Speaker 4: there's like twenty five.
Speaker 3: Tracks on there and really funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And she's such a good singer. Team's clearly a great
Speaker 4: player as well. That's all we have time for. Thanks
Speaker 4: so much for listening.