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Speaker 2: both past and present. My name's Cam Daddo, Amili Daddo. Hey, el, Yes,

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Speaker 2: what happens when you blend music and comedy?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Now wait, wait, what happens when you blend a

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Speaker 3: See, hey, there's a good segon Hey.

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Speaker 5: Musical comedian Michelle Brazier is known for her work with

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Speaker 2: A lot of philosophy is pretty funny.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, especially you can blend it well with.

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Speaker 5: That's right in between standing ovations off Broadway, writing a

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Speaker 2: Tim Lancaster is Michelle's partner. He's outside with Michelle right now.

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Speaker 2: All right, look, guys, welcome. Firstly, Tim, I have to

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Speaker 2: Well, you were one of those kids that we seen

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Speaker 2: Would that have been you if you're a little kid today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a nightmare.

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Speaker 3: I've just monetized it.

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Speaker 2: Well done, Well done.

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Speaker 3: That's a true gift. It is giving gifts right there.

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Speaker 6: That they would have absolutely hated around the house. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Lawyers love it. Yeah, lawyers absolutely love it.

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Speaker 6: We're going to do it.

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Speaker 5: It was great, Yeah, I'm going to just take the

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Speaker 3: We need more male teachers.

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Speaker 5: So I'm like, oh, I feel by, I feel sad.

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Speaker 2: I mean a lot of actors, because you know, acting

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Speaker 3: And that's great news for us, super ANUA, fantastic news.

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Speaker 3: We just need to pay teachers. That's that's why a

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Speaker 5: And it's not for me because you get the pay

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's difficult, but we just sort of

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Speaker 1: see if you can try on their walk or their whatever.

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00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,200
Speaker 1: You know, just chill out. So I'm still working on that. Really,

448
00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,959
Speaker 1: I think you're better at that, Timm. You're better at

449
00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 1: winding down.

450
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think think so.

451
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 4: But I also think that the job that we do,

452
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 4: we are incredibly lucky because we just have these incredible

453
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,679
Speaker 4: working holidays all around the world, like we just have to,

454
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 4: Like we spend a month every year in Edinburgh at

455
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 4: the Fringe and we work for an hour a day

456
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 4: really there. I mean, of course there's much more involved

457
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,160
Speaker 4: than just doing the one hour show.

458
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 1: But we've got such a great team around us now

459
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 1: that we don't have to you know, we're not out

460
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 1: flying in the streets anymore, and.

461
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 4: We get to enjoy the places that we are, And

462
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Speaker 4: I think we are quite good at making the most

463
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Speaker 4: of enjoying the place that we are, yeah physically at

464
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 4: and getting the most out of the holiday around the work.

465
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we just did off Broadway and we went to

466
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Speaker 1: see a bunch of other off Broadway shows, and you

467
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 1: know that was so lovely, and yeah, we do try

468
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 1: to make the most of it.

469
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Speaker 3: I love that.

470
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Speaker 5: I just want to take you back in time a

471
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 5: little bit more to that of the music. Did this

472
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Speaker 5: back to legally Blonde? You guys had not known each

473
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 5: other until you were in production with each other.

474
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 3: No, yeah, we didn't know each other.

475
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: I sort of knew of him because he had just

476
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: dated my friend who was the stage manager, and they'd

477
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,479
Speaker 1: broken up.

478
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Speaker 3: So I came in actually with a bit of a

479
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 3: chip on my shoulder.

480
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 6: Against I think we had met.

481
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 2: We'd actually met in and he sings a song on that.

482
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Speaker 2: That's the other guy sings a song about a chip

483
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Speaker 2: on a shoulder.

484
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 4: We had met in passing when I was still dating

485
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 4: that our mutual friend.

486
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 6: Now we're great, I was great.

487
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 4: Friends we go, but Michelle was doing a different production

488
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Speaker 4: in wager at the time, maybe six months beforehand, and

489
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Speaker 4: I was thinking about doing the local musical of Mary

490
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 4: Poppins at the start of the year, and I was

491
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Speaker 4: a bit nervous as I haven't really done a musical before.

492
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Speaker 4: I don't think i'd be very good at it. And

493
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Speaker 4: Michelle was actually the one who convinced me in a

494
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Speaker 4: conversation to audition for it, and I ended up getting

495
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Speaker 4: the lead role, the role of Bert Well, thank you.

496
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Speaker 2: It was very fun.

497
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Speaker 4: And then that then led me into doing Legally Blonde

498
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Speaker 4: as well, so she she was the one who started

499
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 4: the whole thing.

500
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Speaker 6: Really, now, I'm a puppa master, truly, truly, And.

501
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Speaker 5: At what point did you recognize the attraction with each other?

502
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 5: Like was it on stage that final you know, two

503
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Speaker 5: weeks in or what made it click for the both

504
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 5: of you.

505
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Speaker 1: I think it must have been on stage, because I

506
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: wasn't really conscious of it until.

507
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 3: The final night.

508
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: There's a bit where Elle kisses Warner and I kissed

509
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: him and I didn't quite get the kiss right and

510
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 1: I went in for another one.

511
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 3: So I think at some point there.

512
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Speaker 1: I remember there was a time where I was doing

513
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: sound checking because Ellwood's wear so many different and there's

514
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: so many quick changes, and so there's some layering, and

515
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: you know, there's the bunny corset, and I would start

516
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: the show in the corset and then put other things

517
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Speaker 1: on top.

518
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: And so I was just out in this courset.

519
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: I had just gotten ready and I was doing my

520
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: sound check out out on the stage and Tim had

521
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: seen me on one of the backstage screens and came

522
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: out and gave me his jacket, and I remember being like, oh,

523
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: because we both had partners at the time.

524
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

525
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 4: I think that throughout the whole period of the show,

526
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 4: the rehearsals and the show itself, because it was quite

527
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 4: a limited run really, it was only a couple of weeks,

528
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 4: I felt this attraction to Michelle and her like I

529
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 4: knew the grief that she was going through with losing

530
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 4: her brother overseas and just you know, being in a

531
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Speaker 4: tough spot. The way that she held herself through that,

532
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 4: and the kindness and empathy that she had for everybody

533
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 4: else in the show kind of pushing her own stuff aside,

534
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 4: was really intriguing to me. But I think at the

535
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 4: time at least just felt like felt like that classic

536
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 4: sort of showmance thing that is never going to go anywhere.

537
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 4: It happens on some shows, or that had happened in

538
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 4: the past, on some shows where you know, you do

539
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 4: a show, you work so closely with someone that you

540
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 4: feel this attraction, but you know that there's no substance

541
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 4: to it, potentially, And that's kind of just what I

542
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 4: thought that it would be, because, like she says, we

543
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 4: both had partners at the time as well, in relationships

544
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 4: that looking back, we weren't particularly happy, and and then

545
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 4: we just sort of kept getting to know each other

546
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 4: afterwards and started to realize it, Oh, I know there

547
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 4: is actually something here, something that is very intriguing about

548
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 4: this person that I really want to keep getting to

549
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 4: know and still want to keep getting to know.

550
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: And that would have been a bit of a tell

551
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: tale given that the show was over, because often what

552
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: happens and shows, that's what you're that's what you're talking

553
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 2: about every night after the show, you're having a beer

554
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 2: and doing a post mortem of what happened on stage.

555
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 2: And then suddenly when the show's over, that part of

556
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: it's gone. You don't you're not connecting on that level,

557
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: and you're back to life, and like I said, you

558
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: go back to that metaphor of surfing. You're back paddling

559
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: out looking for your next gig again. Hey, Michelle, you

560
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 2: just mentioned before that that intrigued me. This will let

561
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: our listener know a bit more about what happens. You

562
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: said when you're in Glasgow and you're doing your show

563
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: and it's one hour now, you've got a team behind

564
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 2: you working. You said something about we don't have to

565
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 2: do something something out on the street anymore. Is that spooking?

566
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: What did you say?

567
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

568
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: Flying?

569
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, flying? So can you take us into that world

570
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: a bit because often we think, oh, these guys are

571
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 2: just turn up, they do the show, they bag her off,

572
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: heading off to the next city or whatever. So but

573
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: this is really grassroots, down in the dirt, promoting your

574
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 2: own shows correctly.

575
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the way sometimes because sometimes you know,

576
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: fellow actors will be like, oh my god, you've made it,

577
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: You've done it, You're so good.

578
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 3: Oh you oh you.

579
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: Just got off of that, or you didn't have to

580
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: audition for it, and I'm like, I didn't have to

581
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: audition for it, but what I did have to do

582
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: was stand on the streets of rainy Edinburgh year after

583
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: year after year, handing out flyers to strangers saying please

584
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: come and take a chance on me.

585
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 3: I'm from Australia, I'm at three pm.

586
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: I've got one hundred and fifty tickets to sell, like,

587
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 1: please come along. I promise it'll be good, and like

588
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: learning to sell myself and just going through the trenches

589
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: of that and then and that's the nature of Edinburgh Fringe.

590
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: It still is like that. We don't do that here

591
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: at Melbourne Comedy Festival really. I mean you sometimes see

592
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: people at the front of town Hall flying a little

593
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: bit and I'll always take a flyer and I always

594
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: try and see their shows, especially when they're flying for themselves.

595
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, it took me, I think like ten years

596
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: of doing edinm Refringe to get to the point where

597
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: I am now, which is like I'll sell out and

598
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: it'll be fine, but like to actually make money. Because

599
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: you do it as an investment in yourself, you get

600
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: so much better. You're also running around to do gigs

601
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: because you need to a make money and you need

602
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: to get in front of as many audience members as

603
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: you can because it's a great way to sell tickets

604
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: to your show is be on a lineup and do

605
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: your ten minutes getch or your five minutes song or

606
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: your whatever. So you're running around town like the entire

607
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: city shuts down if you haven't been dead and refringe,

608
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: like you have to go beautiful, beautiful city, but there's

609
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: no real roads that are open, Like you're sort of

610
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: running everywhere from old town to newtown and it's really

611
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: beautiful and romantic. It's always raining, and you really make

612
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: friends in the trenches. It's such a beautiful place and

613
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: you become so good because you have to adjust to

614
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: six different audiences in a night. And I'm still someone

615
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: who like I don't need to go to edinburgfringe.

616
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 3: I've done. We've done it season at Soho Theater.

617
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: We're about to go and do our tour of the UK,

618
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: like we don't need to break the UK necessarily.

619
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: But I want to keep getting better.

620
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: I want to keep going back to Edinburgh and seeing

621
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: those people who are out on the street. I want

622
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: to see their shows and I want to I just

623
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: want to be there. I just find it so intoxicating.

624
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: But the flying is so hard and so exhausted.

625
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 4: It's such a such a vulnerable thing to stand there

626
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 4: with pictures of your own face on a small piece

627
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 4: of paper and kind of just like open yourself up

628
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 4: to everybody walking past, and because there are in somewhere.

629
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 4: I think the last Fringe there was something like thirty

630
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: five hundred different shows. There was a massive, massive the

631
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 4: spigger starts, that's all the while. So to be standing

632
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 4: there and say to sort of have to prove to

633
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 4: someone or tell someone that they should take a chance

634
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 4: on you when there's three thy four hundred and ninety

635
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: nine other shows that they could go to, there's so

636
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 4: many more no's than there are yes is, which is

637
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 4: I mean just how it is in the industry. But

638
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 4: you're just doing that after hour over there.

639
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 5: Do they ever say, tell me a joke and I'll come, yeah,

640
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 5: I can imagine that.

641
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: Fe like some smart ass going all right, tell me

642
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: a job. Come yeah, it's so funny.

643
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: Tell me shait, okay, your fish.

644
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 3: How do you deal with hecklers?

645
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: I don't often get hecklers, but I usually it's people

646
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: just chatting who just want to be a part of it.

647
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: They just so I never get any real rude hecklers.

648
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: So people chat, and when they chat, I flirt with them,

649
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: like I just will say I'll be like oh my god, dad,

650
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: and I'll go and sit on their knee.

651
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: I will.

652
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: I feel like killing with kindness is the easiest way

653
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: to go because they want to be a part of it.

654
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: And if you let them be a part of it

655
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: and then set up a boundary and go, here's what

656
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: your job is. I'll come and see you when I

657
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: want to talk to you, and I will not throw

658
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: to you when it's not your line. That I think

659
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: they're a bit easier to deal with because you can

660
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: really unsettle the room. But I once hosting this show

661
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: called Late in Live, which is an Edinburgh fringe show

662
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: and it is notorious. But I think it was Russell

663
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: Brand or maybe Dylan Moren, I can't remember. There's a

664
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: famous comedian who is famous for like smashing a bottle

665
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: over his head and being like, is this what you want?

666
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: Like people go to heckl It has a traditional like

667
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: people it's really late. It goes to three am and

668
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: people will come and they will heckle, and it's kind

669
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: of you're just being thrown to the lion's den. But

670
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: it pays well and it's really you know, forged in

671
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: fire kind of thing, and it's changed over the last

672
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,479
Speaker 1: few years and that now they all have all female

673
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: hosts and they're trying to have more queer people in

674
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: the lineup and a more gentle audience. But when I

675
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: first did it, it was very much still in that

676
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: in that space, and I was hosting and this guy,

677
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: this guy yelled out, I'm like, everyone say this, everyone

678
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: say this, everyone say pretty and funny. What a catch.

679
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: And then this guy yells out, my daughter is fitter

680
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: than you.

681
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, random, I know, I know, and

682
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: everyone booed him, and I was like, no, no, no,

683
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: it's late in life, guys.

684
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: We're very open here.

685
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: If this guy wants to fuck his daughter, you know,

686
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: as long as he doesn't act on, we're not gonna

687
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: do it. He's gonna go to the doctor. We're gonna

688
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: all call the police. It's gonna be fine. And that's

689
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: the only time I've ever had to throw someone under

690
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: the bus to you really just be like okay, mate,

691
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna make everyone hate you.

692
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't.

693
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: You really can't invite them and have a conversation with them,

694
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 4: because that's what they want to be a part of it.

695
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 5: That always it's like an online troll isn't it Engage,

696
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 5: don't engage.

697
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they have lots of really good bounces at

698
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: that show as well that will just come in and eject.

699
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 6: You just diract people out.

700
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no one can be bounced from listening to

701
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: your new album.

702
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: Yes you can home all you like exactly.

703
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: Trilogy mixtape. Tell us a bit about this album.

704
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: It was so much fun to put together. It's literally

705
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 4: the timeline was was crazy. The album itself is the

706
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 4: songs of the three shows that we have done together,

707
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 4: the three comedy shows, plus a couple of pop songs

708
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: that Michelle has written as well, and one from her

709
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 4: double danim Day's, which is a sketch duo that she

710
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 4: did before the pandemic.

711
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: Was My Edinburgh Flying Day, I'm Begging on the streets day. Yeah.

712
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, But we've always been asked by people after shows,

713
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 4: where can I listen to these songs? When can we

714
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: do this? And there's always been I mean, I guess

715
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 4: I want for both of us to put together.

716
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, we wanted to, and I always lied to

717
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: people and said we're doing it, we're recording it right now.

718
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: I always lied, but then we finally did it.

719
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 4: We finally did it, but we truly the timeline for

720
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 4: it was this year is an incredibly busy year, which

721
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 4: is a wonderful, wonderful thing to say. It's it's really

722
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 4: nice to be busy. But we had I think a

723
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: week to get in the studio. Michelle had three days

724
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: recording vocals. I had maybe four days doing some of

725
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: the guitar and vocals as well. That was between a

726
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 4: festival and then heading over to the US to do

727
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: some shows in the US. And then our producer Tom.

728
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: Tom Zahara amazing does all the music for Auntie Donna.

729
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, he did just these incredible work to put it

730
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: all together and get it out in time for the

731
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 4: comedy festival when we got back to then do a

732
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 4: launch concert of the show.

733
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: How many songs on the album is like twenty.

734
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 5: Four You're Gone, Taylor Swift, You've Gone.

735
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: The double album I really have. I'm actually going to

736
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: open it. How many tracks are there?

737
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 6: I think it's it's twenty two to twenty four. I

738
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 6: think somewhere around there.

739
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: It's prolific all how Michelle, how would you describe it?

740
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: I would describe it.

741
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little musical comedy journey through my last

742
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: free shows, the trilogy, which I call them. I feel

743
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: like I've done a lot of wrapping up, like I mean,

744
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: doing this recording the album with like my favorite songs

745
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: from each show, and I've just written a book as well,

746
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: which is like I take a lot of my favorite

747
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: stories from that and also a lot of other stuff,

748
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: and just like, oh god, all my material feels like

749
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: it's out now. Like as soon as the book comes out,

750
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: everything will just be like here's every thought I've ever

751
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: had in every song I've ever written, and then I

752
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: just have to sort of start again, which actually very

753
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: very exciting.

754
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: It's also really nice for us to have as well,

755
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: because we we I mean, obviously we can sit at

756
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: home and play the songs on the guitar and do

757
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: that sort of stuff as well, but there are there's

758
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 4: there's songs in there that kind of evoke memories and

759
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: moments from shows or from places or tours that we

760
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 4: don't even really think about until we hear it. And

761
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 4: to sort of just have that professionally produced and able

762
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 4: to listen to at home, it's really cool.

763
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wanted to give the audience something that

764
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: they've been asking for because they're so nice to me,

765
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: and they give me their money and their time and

766
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: their attention, and those are the three things that I

767
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: need to survive. Those are my Maslow's hierarchy. So I just, yeah,

768
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: I wanted I want them to be able to listen

769
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: to them and for free. You know, I don't want

770
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: to charge.

771
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: People for it.

772
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 6: But if they want to buy it on iTunes, they

773
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 6: can do that too.

774
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they probably are. I don't know how it's

775
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: going to be a link.

776
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 5: How do you to work through challenges in their relationship?

777
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 5: Are you both good communicators or.

778
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 6: I think so.

779
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: I think I'm a very good communicator, to the point

780
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: where i'm I communicate too much, or maybe that's not

781
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: necessarily true, but I always want to talk about how

782
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm feeling and how you're feeling and what's going on

783
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: for both of us, and I think we have a

784
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: pretty good system.

785
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 4: I think we do. I think we've learned to both

786
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 4: be better at communicating over the years because we've been

787
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 4: together now for eight years.

788
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 6: I think this is our ninth year together. Long time,

789
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 6: long time.

790
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 4: And I know myself personally, I was not a great

791
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 4: communicator at the start of the relationship, but I think

792
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: that we have gotten really really good at working through,

793
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 4: Like we know each other's strengths and weaknesses so well.

794
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: After that that amount of time, it doesn't take much

795
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: for one and one of us to see the other

796
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: one struggling in a way that even they might not

797
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: necessarily know.

798
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we get ahead of each other's often crash.

799
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 4: Often ahead of it before we're ahead of our own stuff,

800
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: which I find really interesting.

801
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we sort of have our general rule and general

802
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: approach is like to assume the best of each other

803
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: all the time.

804
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: And I think that's a great way to move through

805
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: the world in any way.

806
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: But for a relationship, it's really nice because it means

807
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: that like the first question isn't like it's never why

808
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: the fuck did you do this? Or I can't believe

809
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: you've done this. It's always like, hey, are you okay?

810
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: Because it is out of character for you to have

811
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: done this? Or I'm feeling like this, do you think

812
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: that I'm over Like? Am I overreacting? Am I taking

813
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: this the wrong way? And my first rule as well

814
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: for Tim is if I'm crying because I'm taking something

815
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: too seriously or if I'm just clearly overloaded, is for

816
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: him to tell me to shut the fuck up and

817
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: have fun, or like to laugh at me and joke

818
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: about it, like I really, I don't want my feelings

819
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: to be taken seriously unless they need to be, and

820
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: so we don't. We try not to validate each other's bullshit,

821
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: and we trust each other when the other one says

822
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: that's not real.

823
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: Come on, let's go get a cake.

824
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's often, it's often let's yeah, it certainly does.

825
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 4: The other thing is, it's so much of the issues

826
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 4: that we have as people ourselves can just be solved

827
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 4: by getting outside and going for like a walk as well.

828
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 4: That's one of Michelle's big things is that she needs

829
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 4: to have a big walk.

830
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: So often sometimes Tim takes me for a walk, like

831
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 3: I'm I think she needs a walk.

832
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: It's just a yeah, just knowing, knowing how the other

833
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 4: person's brain works. Is it's been nice, it's nice to

834
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 4: it's beautiful.

835
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: We want to support each other.

836
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: We do a bit of that. Get out there, go

837
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: for a walk, come on, it's nice, get some get

838
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: some air and air through the gills. I do want

839
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: to just remind you of is the is the pillow

840
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: fort still a technique that you use there was a

841
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: great early story with you guys getting together around a

842
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: pillow fort, and I just love that.

843
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this was beautiful.

844
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, we'd been talking for ages after Legally Blonde,

845
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: and we were discussing I was just starting to feel

846
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: quite overwhelmed by things, and I had a lot of

847
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: auditions coming up, and I think I just started working

848
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: in TV a fair bit and I started being recognized and.

849
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: I wanted to hide, and I was I just want

850
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: to get into like a fort.

851
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: And we talked about what our perfect foot would be

852
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: and I told him all the things that the perfect

853
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: foot would be and he I went over to his

854
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: house and he had turned his bedroom into that fort.

855
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 3: And that is genuinely what sealed the deal.

856
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: Like I was like, okay, which is good, because I

857
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 4: put some holes in the wall with some girls.

858
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 6: I don't think I got my bund back, but it was.

859
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: So worth it.

860
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh that's a really beautiful story.

861
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: Thank you for sharing that. Yeah, it was very, very thoughtful.

862
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: There's a bit of that. Yeah, we still do that.

863
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: You still do things like that, which is really nice.

864
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 3: I'm a bit more romantic.

865
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's more a metaphorical pillow for it. Than a

866
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 6: real one.

867
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 3: Now it's more like a bar, a cup of tea

868
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 3: and some snacks.

869
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: I think I think a pillow fort is in your

870
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 2: future again. I think that's a great idea, a random

871
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: pillow for block out the world if you got the

872
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: kid's on your mind. Guys, No, we have a dog

873
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: and we really like her.

874
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: I have endmitriosis, so it would be very hard for

875
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: me to have kids. But I also just I really

876
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: have this feeling of like I am so I'm just

877
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: so happy for my little version of me, like that

878
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: she gets to do this job that was her dream job,

879
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: and she gets to live her dream life, and I

880
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: just don't want to like interrupt her enjoyment of it.

881
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. It's this weird thing,

882
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: but yeah, I did my third show, Legacy that we

883
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: did together.

884
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: I say that like I'm always collecting things for a

885
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: little girl, and like my life is a collection of

886
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: stories written for a girl that doesn't exist because she

887
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: would ruin it, and that's not necessarily fair, but like

888
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: it's like it's actually maybe that little girl is the

889
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: little girl that I was, and so I feel kind

890
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: of that way about it. Or maybe I just commenced

891
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: myself that because of the end though, it's just easier

892
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: to But we're very much dog people. I never see

893
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: a baby in sort of coup, Like I like my

894
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: friend's babies, but I never see a baby and go,

895
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, the baby.

896
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 3: But every dog I say, I'm like, give them that dog.

897
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, we both have always been that way that.

898
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 4: I felt a little bit of guilt for thinking that,

899
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: for not wanting to give my parents grandkids. But my

900
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: sister has always wanted kids and has just had her

901
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: first baby about a month ago, So yeah, that has

902
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 4: sort of ticked the checklist for me.

903
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 6: There the guilt has gone there. Yeah, but then that's

904
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 6: not a thing that that either of us want.

905
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 4: But it also feels like a bit of a shame

906
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 4: because I feel like we would have maybe a deluded

907
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 4: thing to say, but quite talented kids.

908
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 6: I think I think they would be.

909
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 3: I think we'd be good parents.

910
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 6: I think we would be good parents. But I also

911
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 6: think foster parents or just cool. Aren't an uncle is

912
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 6: a good yer?

913
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: Yeah?

914
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 3: We like, yeah, wool, aren't an uncle? Like that's nice? Yeah,

915
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: I have two nephews.

916
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: My brother had two kids and they're really really great kids,

917
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: and I love them very much and I'm excited to

918
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: see what Erin's baby turns out to be. But yeah,

919
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: it's very like I also have that, you know, genetic stuff.

920
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: My father passed away from cancer, my brother passed away

921
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: from a similar cancer, and it looks like we might

922
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: have like a genetic disposition to maybe not live that long.

923
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: And so that's another question.

924
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: Two questions, really, is one, if you're not going to

925
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: live that long, do you want to have a child

926
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: and have to sacrifice that so much of your limited time?

927
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: And the other one is like, do you want to

928
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Speaker 1: pass that on to a child? And I mean I

929
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 1: would want it to be pasted onto me. I suppose,

930
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: because I'm happy I exist. But it's just another factor

931
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: to consider. So there's a lot of stuff.

932
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fair enough. Yeah, being the cool aunt and

933
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: uncle taking a loop machine and a guitar over to

934
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Speaker 2: create a couple of hours, A couple of hours, A

935
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Speaker 2: couple of hours.

936
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

937
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 3: My nephew told me.

938
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Speaker 1: He sent me a message the other day saying, Auntie Michelle,

939
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: you are slaying on Instagram and.

940
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 5: I love it.

941
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: It's great.

942
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 5: We do something called the two minute shower to finish

943
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 5: and it's basically keep your answers super short, and we're

944
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 5: going to ask you both the same questions.

945
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: Okay, great Number one, what's your best quality?

946
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: My kindness?

947
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 5: Oh?

948
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 6: I was gonna say kindness for me as well?

949
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 5: What would be the first song on a mix tape

950
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 5: that you were making for each other?

951
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 6: Falling slowly from Once?

952
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: Oh?

953
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: You know I was going to say the same one. Okay,

954
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: maybe yeah, maybe I'm going to just kind of say

955
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: falling slowly as well. I'm just going to say it's.

956
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: Such a great song. You guys would both be great

957
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: in Once.

958
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 6: We love to do it.

959
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a show just because I'm thinking about it. Yeah, gosh,

960
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: all right? What about this relationship? Are you grateful for friendship?

961
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 6: Everything? There's nothing that's that I'm not grateful for.

962
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: I also think everything. What do you miss when you're

963
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 3: not together? Silliness?

964
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 6: Laughing?

965
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: You guys are good at this.

966
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we appreciate this. This is the last question. Describe

967
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: each other in one word. Oh that's stumped them.

968
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 6: Honey, God, it's so hard because.

969
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 4: I've got just so many words that I would use

970
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 4: to describe Michelle. I think can I hyphenate?

971
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 5: Yes?

972
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: No?

973
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 6: Because there would just be an on running sentence. I

974
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 6: think wholesome.

975
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: That's nice. I was going to say, gentle love it.

976
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: Michelle and Tim, thanks so much for your time today.

977
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: We will put your new album trilogy mixtape on our

978
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: show notes so our listener can And what's the name

979
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: of the book.

980
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: Oh, the books called My Brother's Ashes are in a

981
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: sandwich bag and you can pre order that online at

982
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: the moment. Comes out in September. Okay, it's my favorite

983
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: thing I've ever done.

984
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 3: That's fantastic.

985
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: Is it a resealable Texas tough bag.

986
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: It's a Hercules bag, which and I always say, like

987
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: it says Hercules on it, or perhaps they've given me

988
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: somebody else's ambitiously named brother.

989
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: Your time, all the best things, you your success, Thank

990
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: you you too.

991
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 6: Thanks guys.

992
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed that chat. That was so great. What

993
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: a lovely relationship. Yeah, and they know their place and

994
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 2: they know what they want, you know, and it's sort

995
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 2: of like they support each other. I didn't realize that

996
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: Tim was such a pivotal part in the act that

997
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: Michelle has so that would you know, really give them

998
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: a lot of fun and creativity.

999
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 5: I mean, it would be so nice to sort of

1000
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 5: you know, there's your lover, partner, best friend, you know,

1001
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 5: right behind you on the keyboards or guitar on a

1002
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 5: big stage.

1003
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 3: Like to have him there.

1004
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 5: I just think that would be that to me, would

1005
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 5: feel really good, Like talk about having your back.

1006
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 2: He would have her back, absolutely. But the word that

1007
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: came to mind as you were saying that was safety

1008
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: and feeling safe. And when you feel safe, you know,

1009
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: it gives you confidence. Yeah, that's right, and I'm really glad.

1010
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: I'm really glad that I asked the question about the

1011
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: flying right. Yes, I didn't not know that.

1012
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 5: I mean I just assumed that that's what that was.

1013
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 5: It's like your hand out fliers. But when she went

1014
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 5: into detail about how much you've got to do that,

1015
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 5: and that's a talent in itself, I don't think. I

1016
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 5: don't know if I could do that, stand out there

1017
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 5: with a picture of myself and promote like that.

1018
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of us, as theater goers and consumers

1019
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: of movies and things, you think, you look at these

1020
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: people who are performing and you go, you don't really

1021
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: think of the hard yards and the shoe leather that

1022
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: they have. They span that's right and done in order

1023
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: to get where they are. Remember Hugh Grant years ago

1024
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 2: would talk about, yeah, ten years to being a you know,

1025
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: over an association. Yeah, and that is the case here.

1026
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 2: But that's how they get so good, you know, you

1027
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 2: look at those ten thousand hour books or whatever. That's

1028
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: how they get so good.

1029
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: I mean, just quickly.

1030
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 5: I watch that Steve Martin documentary and it's an incredible,

1031
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 5: incredible documentary. And he did like how many years he's

1032
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 5: like twenty years of stand up, of people hating him,

1033
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 5: loving him, hating him again until before I even got

1034
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 5: in front of the TV camera, you know, so and

1035
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 5: you look at him and go, he's a superstar, which

1036
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 5: of course it is now. But again, when you hear

1037
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 5: the story from how early he wanted to be stand

1038
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 5: up and how hard that was and talking to no.

1039
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 3: One in it at a pub.

1040
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you want to get off, tell me something funny, Yeah,

1041
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: that's it.

1042
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: That's not an easy job.

1043
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, That to me was when I first started in

1044
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: showbiz and how it was gifted to me. Had my

1045
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 2: auditions and did things, but I did not do what

1046
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 2: Michelle's talking about, and I felt like I didn't deserve

1047
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: to be there at some points because I hadn't put

1048
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: those hard yards in. I mean, forty years later, it's

1049
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: a bit of a different story, but at the beginning

1050
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: it's it's a challenge. So they're fantastic and more power

1051
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: to them, and they're off to the States and as

1052
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: Michelle said, they'll go back to Edinburgh and do more.

1053
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: And she's got a wonderful book coming out with that

1054
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: Killer Time. Yeah, I know the book, the album, It's

1055
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: all happening, yes, and the album is Trilogy Mixtape and

1056
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: like she said, there's like twenty five tracks on there

1057
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: and really funny. Yeah. And she's such a good singer

1058
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: and team's clearly a great player as well. That's all

1059
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: we have time for. Thanks so much for listening.