1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: And okay, you'll be ready to go. We're ready to go. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Grand Final, done and dusted. What what a season means? Oh? 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 2: What a great season of rugby league. 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: One of the greatest seasons that I've seen, without a doubt, 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: the greatest final series I've seen, and one of the 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: greatest Grand finals. 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but the final series has just been amazing, 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: the best, breaking all the records the AFL. 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: Been, some of the games in the finals, some of 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: the best games I've ever seen. 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean every every Broncos game was scintillating. Every 12 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: single Broncos game. They here's a stat that someone told me, 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: because they had a punt at the Grand Final on 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: Melbourne to be leading at halftime by nine plus. Broncos 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: haven't won a first half in any finals game they've had. 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: Right, I'm going to get to that. Oh one second, 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: I've got some stuff for you. Got to go with 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: me on it. 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: I'll go with you to the depth of hell with legend. 20 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: Geez. That's a change of attitude. Firstly, first, before we 21 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: get on all the football stuff, Teddy swim m man, 22 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm a believer. 23 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Live at the ground. They pump 24 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: the they pump the speakers up loud, and it was amazing. 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: I was, I was on the edge of my seat 26 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: because live you can kind of not get much of 27 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: a vibe for it. Sometimes it's but someone with that 28 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: sort of vocals, he was blowing that place apart where 29 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: he was unbelieved. When he did TNT ac DC, it 30 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: was like the whole place was just up on their feet. 31 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: It was gone. It's fantastic to do that, like you know, 32 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: how to do that, to pay homage to one of 33 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: the country you know, one of the country's greatest. 34 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: It always annoys me how some artists, like obviously their 35 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: labels will tell them, I play this song because we're 36 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: trying to promote this album. Promote that. You know what's 37 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 2: going to promote your album and get people like you 38 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: if you just put in a good performance of people enjoy. 39 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: Play your crowd exactly, play your greatest songs, and that's 40 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: what introduces people to your music. From there they discover 41 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: all the other stuff. 42 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like even to do TNT, like it'd be 43 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: very people just do their songs out of out of 44 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: I suppose to promote themselves. But to chuck in TNT, 45 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: that was that was the icing on that man's cake. 46 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: Teddy swims, take about. 47 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: Take about? And what a kilt? Enjoy the kilt, by 48 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, lovely navy blue like checkered kilt. 49 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: I know when he ripped that off, I was worried. 50 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 2: I thought, Teddy, there are kids in the crowd. 51 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: Teddy, look at those calf muscles. 52 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: Holy to Bully. Yeah, he's a Tabully is an excellent condiment. 53 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: Okay, the game, Well, I don't have it on my kebab. 54 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: When I have it, I just I don't. I just 55 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: find it too. 56 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: I get the light, I get everything on my kebab, now, tomato, onion, everything, 57 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: and then I go garlic sauce, barbecue sauce, sometimes even 58 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: sweet chilli. 59 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: I find I find the garlic too strong. I go 60 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: the tomato, or go the onion. I go everything else. 61 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't have the bully Polly, and I have the 62 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: barbecue sauce. 63 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: Because I I After the Grand Final, I had a 64 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: couple of schooners. And then on the way back, I 65 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: was going a kebab and the hours and a lady 66 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: was in there and I was asking what she gets 67 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: on it? She only gets aoli. And I had some 68 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: stern words to it. I took that quite offensive and 69 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: did I go over the top and maybe say things 70 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: are a little bit disrespectful? Yes, I am so. I 71 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: want to apologize to that lady. But you've got to 72 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: have barbecue sauce and garlic sauce. 73 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: Of course you do. Of course we'll not garlic sauce. 74 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: Barbecue sauce. Barbecue sauce is a one. It's a condiment 75 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: that can just just a bit be placed on everything. 76 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: Make a bow. Barbecue sauce. 77 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: Tomato sauce has to go on a pie like if 78 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: you put barbie pot on Because Harry Grant he puts 79 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: barbecue on a pie and I don't like it. No, 80 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: I don't like that. Tomato sauce is for your meat pie. 81 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: Totally agree, you know what I'm saying. 82 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: Brisbane had one magnificent final series from round from from 83 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: the regular round three. They won seven in a row, 84 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: most against powerhouse opposition to win the title. And they 85 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: were able to sustain a standard of football and keep 86 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: making great comebacks. And that is a result and we've 87 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: said this before, the old buckets, spear buckets. It was 88 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: physical conditioning, hard physical conditioning which fed mental toughness and 89 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: without that, they don't win, they can't make comebacks. Okay, 90 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: so take a bow, Madge, like feed Inkham, take about 91 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: your last couple of years have been remarkable. Let's just 92 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: talk about what he dealt with with the and what 93 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: he achieved at the Broncos. Firstly, the amount of criticism 94 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: that he wore, even before he collected the clipboard, people saying, 95 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: oh new South walesman coach and the Broncos give me 96 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: a break. The Blakers coached the new South Wales Blues 97 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: over my dead body. All that sort of stuff went 98 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: on and he was able to wear it and get 99 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: through it. 100 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: I wonder I'd love to get I mean, we imagine 101 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: there'll be another time where we would get match back 102 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 2: on the potty, but I'd love to understand the year 103 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: in comparison to the criticism he copped at the Tigers. 104 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: What was the difference? You know, how much pressure did 105 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 2: he feel this year in comparison because he was scrutinized 106 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: when he was at the Tigers. Heavily scrutinized a lot 107 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: of media attention, which ultimately ended up leaving there. But 108 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: I wonder just how much criticism and how much. It 109 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 2: took a toll on him at the Broncos or is 110 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: he had enough experience now where that stuff just rolled 111 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: off the back. 112 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: He just eat for unfairly. He carries this thing with him. 113 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: The people go, oh made he trains them too hard? 114 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: Oh it is? You know he he lacks empathy for 115 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 1: his players. He makes them play injured. He no coach, 116 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: I don't think, bounces from club to club and has 117 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: to put up with that. At the end of the day, 118 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: he gets results, correct, that's it. Like at South Sydney. 119 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: He was southseitting for a long time and towards the 120 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: end both needed to change. Both parties needed to change. 121 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: He needed the break, players needed a different system. But 122 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: before that made he won their first Grand Finals in 123 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one. And I know, I certainly know the 124 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: set people of sou Sitting. You don't forget that. 125 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, But to you who actually deserves a rap too, 126 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: because yes, coaches can train people hard, and I think 127 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: there's only ever criticism will backlash from it when you 128 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: haven't got the playing group who buy in and the 129 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: culture that actually just go you know what, Let's just 130 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: push through this and we're going to come out the 131 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: other side of better side. Shout out to the Broncos 132 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: players because could have been very easy for them at 133 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: some point to crack the shits and then they wouldn't 134 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: be where they are if they hadn't all board in 135 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: together and they had some toxic people in there. But 136 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: I reckon the turning point for them is and what 137 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: has helped madg is Kevy got them to a Grand 138 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: Final and twenty twenty three and their leaders, particularly like 139 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: Adam Reynolds Ben Hunt who wasn't there, but he's been 140 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: desperate to get back to a Grand Final for ten years. 141 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: They are so hungry and desperate to win a Grand 142 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: Final because they all had something to play for. Yep, 143 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: they all were hurting from that twenty twenty three. 144 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: And let me tell you, there were people laying the 145 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: bait for the players to bite on you. I mean 146 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: laying the bait going make players are off here, players 147 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: training to you know. I think at one point they're 148 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: coming eleventh and people laying the bait down for the 149 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: player going home trained them too hard. Look and the 150 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: rumors going around that the players were off him. I 151 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: asked one player in confidence, other players off him? I 152 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: wanted to know, like are they because I didn't believe it. 153 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: The stuff that i'd heard is to players role on board. 154 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: He said, nah, plays off him at all, said everyone 155 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: believes in what we're doing. 156 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they got and they got some good 157 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: cat like even even shouted to Billy Walters right, like 158 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: his old man gets sacked and Billy and his old 159 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: man are that close. Billy loves that club. He's been 160 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: he was a ball boy at that club when Kevy 161 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: and Gordie were there. You know, he's got broncos in 162 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: his DNA. Could have been very easy for him to 163 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: crack the shits, potentially even become a little bit toxic 164 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: to that group and start turning people. Boma Respectabilly at 165 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: the start of the year, and I don't even know 166 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: if he was really he hadn't cemented sort of his 167 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: spot in that team yet. But he was so hungry 168 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: to prove to match. He was so hungry of trying 169 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: to get a premiership with that side, Like they all 170 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: had such a strong attitude and you need everyone going 171 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: in the same direction to win a camp like it 172 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: is that hard to win a premiership in this competition. 173 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: And the proofs in the pudding I'll just run through 174 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: some of the stuff here just to consider some of 175 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: his achievements here. And one of the things the achieved 176 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 1: was the pressure of power, powerful Queensland, Rubilu Dandies hitting 177 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: him with string, strong criticism with his feet. Every time 178 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: they lost, how to defeat people come out and Bang 179 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: was back on again. You know, they could win three 180 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: in a row and all of a sudden they dropped 181 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: one or two in a row. Bang at starting again. 182 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: So we had to endure that. But injuries to key 183 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: men at key times through the season, they're able to 184 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: maintain and hold their nerve. He got men like a 185 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: Shibasaki Tyson Smoothie, which hasn't been a lot of spoken 186 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: about him, playing beyond people and maybe even maybe even 187 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: their own expectations. Yeah, and he made tough calls, I mean, 188 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: dropping stars like Sell and Koba, you know, and youngsters 189 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: like Karaphani and Dean Maron are coming into the side 190 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: who not like new of them, but made those two 191 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: blokes were just outstanding in yard is what they did. 192 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: But crucially Cooper, crucially he got his superstars playing career 193 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: best football payinhasse Ca, Tony Stags and of course oh 194 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: my god, if there was one bloke I reckon that 195 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: would not have liked Madge's methods, like how hard he trained, 196 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: and just just probably Madge is just demeanor because somebody 197 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: you look at me and Ree, they could not be 198 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: more polarized, you know what I mean. Madge is very 199 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: conservative sort of guy. Reese's guy. You know, he'll paint 200 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: his females all those things. Yet those two blokes. Yet 201 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: what he did for Reese Walsh, like got him playing 202 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: the best football screen you can see it full time. 203 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: You know how much Res appreciated that and the love 204 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:42,599 Speaker 1: he had for me. 205 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: I think the Boys changed Madge too. I think from 206 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 2: the start of the year to that to watching madgine 207 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: the sheds after the game, drinking out of the some 208 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: of the like stuff they had him doing and in 209 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: the press. But they I really think that that group 210 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: made Madge realized stuff too. And I think they I 211 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: think that group, although they are all polar opposites, I 212 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 2: think they've both been so good for each other. 213 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: Yep. 214 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 2: And I think Madge has actually gone you know, he's 215 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: he's had big personalities before, but I don't think he's 216 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: had personality like Rheese Walsh, who is not just a 217 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: big figure in the game, but he's a completely polar 218 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: opposite personality to what is expected in rugby league. Like 219 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: he's himself. He's a rugby league player, but at the 220 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: end of the day, like he's he's completely different than 221 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: most molds of rugby league players. He's he's who he is. 222 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 2: He loves his social media, loves loves everything. 223 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: And a couple of things happened too through the year, 224 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: like you know, the punching in the head, you know 225 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: that one punch, there was that, and of course the 226 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: toilet thing. A lot of other coaches lost their nerve 227 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: a bit on that. They came out and said, look, 228 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: I've reprimanded him, My understand his match. Just they couldn't 229 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: give a ship. Yeah, they get on with it. Just 230 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: get on with it. It is awesome, It is okay, 231 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: go with me on this coupe, all right. This has 232 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: been crucial through the through the final series, the Broncos 233 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: will placed in situations which actually forced them to the 234 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: style of football they produce their best. That high octane, expansive, 235 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: aggressive football and the sort of football where you're willing 236 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: to make errors in the pursuit of points. Now that 237 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: they were forced into that situation. Those situations how but 238 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: let's talk about let's talk about some of the stuff here. 239 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: What forced them to go into that. It was going 240 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: into the second half's trailing by significant margins. And what 241 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: I mean by that, people, is when you walk into 242 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: a dressing room, right and on one side of the 243 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: coin you've got a team. Let's talk about Grand Final 244 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: night here before we go through the others. Melbourne storm 245 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: a leading by ten points. Ten points is well in 246 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: mental toughness, because there's one of two things you can do. 247 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: One is you can get out there. You can say, hey, listen, 248 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: let's continue playing the same football if we've been doing it, 249 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: got as ten points clear, Let's put the clearness through 250 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: those pass go out and keep right. The second thought is, 251 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: boys that towers to lose, let's complete high. Let's kick 252 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: long right are We're going to find a way to 253 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: victory here, No silly errors. Now, which one should you do? 254 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: Which one? 255 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: Which? 256 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: Which of those A or B do you do? To win? 257 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: You do a whatever? Take the meal that took you 258 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: to the top of the hill. Stay on that meal. 259 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: Don't play expensive football. Be willing to take risks back 260 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: your defense to defend the errors that you might make 261 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: and pursue for points. Keep playing football. But most teams 262 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: do B. Most teams get out there and do B. 263 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: And if you look through you know that there's been 264 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: history grand finals, there's been teams that, oftentimes led by 265 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: significant margins, got rand down. Good beat eighty nine Grand Final. 266 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: It was balmains at halftime twelve to two over the Raiders. 267 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: And second half they get out there and they try 268 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: to fend their way to victory. You know, the coach 269 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: takes Paul Syrian Rachel Field twenty to go to trial 270 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: to tackle their way to victory. They get ran down 271 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: in the second half, they score two points. Even our 272 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: grand final, we're behind by eight points. I don't know 273 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: what happened in the manly shep, but now shed we 274 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: had no choice but to play open football. Let's just 275 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: get out there and get after him. We're we're chasing points. 276 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: We've got to get out. Unless we play aggressive football 277 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: a chance our hand, we're not going to win this. Yeah, 278 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: second half mainly score no points. We come back and 279 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: win the game. 280 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: It's why people, it's why it's so hard for teams 281 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: to go back to back because you've got no one 282 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: to chase apart from yourself. Like when you it's like 283 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 2: a marathon. It's like when you're down in a game, 284 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: you have nothing to lose because you're not the bloke 285 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: who's leading. You're not at the front of the pack 286 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: when you have something to chase, if you're chasing points 287 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: or you're chasing people like next to they were chasing 288 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: the Broncos to beat them. They're the standard. You have 289 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: something you have a real motivation to get to, whereas 290 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: if you're leading, if you're the best team in the 291 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: comp there's nothing in front of you. You don't know 292 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: what the people behind you were doing. So the only 293 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 2: thing that really is the only thing that sabotage is 294 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: you is yourself because you need to be able to 295 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: find motivation to get yourself going. 296 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: And I've been in I've been in a couple of 297 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: finals series where we were head by sixteen points against 298 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: the Roosters in our sheds until it happened in our sheds. 299 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: In our sheds, the coach was like, mate, we are 300 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: this close to being in a Grand Final. We are 301 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: that close. Okay, let's get out there. Let's not do 302 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: anything stupid, no silly passes. It not to play two sideways. 303 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: There's a nervousness that just ripple through the dressing room. Meanwhile, 304 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: Fletch tells me in the other dressing room, their coach, 305 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: Graham Murray, the Rooster's coach, pulled a computer out and said, 306 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: have a look at this boys. And right on halftime 307 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: we scored and our winger Darren Albert went up and 308 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: kissed the camera and he said, he's taken the piece 309 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: out of you blokes. What are we going to do? 310 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: And they just went out there and went full blast. Meanwhile, 311 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: we tried to defend our way to victory. So I've 312 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: looked through the final series. Right, let's go Raiders first, 313 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: first of the finals. They're behind twenty eight to twelve. 314 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: See steam points behind, were twenty minutes to go. They've 315 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: got no choice. They've got to open up and play football, 316 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: which they did. Meanwhile, the Raiders, they suddenly just stopped 317 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: playing football to defend their lead. Broncos storm home. Raiders 318 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: don't score another point in Let's go to the Penrith game. 319 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: Similarly again, Penrith game down fourteen at half time. Now 320 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: Penrith after halftime They've got a few opportunities to go 321 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: up twenty mil, but the Broncos defend. They're able to 322 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: defend that and push them off their line. Suddenly Panthers 323 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: tighten up, Broncos go on the offensive and they run 324 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: them down. Panthers don't score another point after halftime, and 325 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: then the big one again ten points down at half time, 326 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: broncoes up the ending in the second half because they've 327 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: got no point. They've got there's no other way. They've 328 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: got to play that way. Storm create chances in the 329 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: second up, but the Broncos high energy attack overwhelms them. 330 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: Broncos win. Storm don't score another point after halftime. Wow, 331 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: that's that's that. That is purely. That is purely, in 332 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: my opinion, that is mental. 333 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: That's mental. And I think the biggest, the biggest point 334 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: in that match, which would have I think broke Broncos 335 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: mentally was that second that that first set out of 336 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: the second half when they come out, Munster puts a 337 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: little kick in two com with Cametha he's about to score, 338 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: which I think would have been the match, like Blower 339 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: would have, just would have just taken it to a 340 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: level where Broncos mentally, I don't think would have had 341 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: the belief that they still did only been two tries down, 342 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: But Reece Walsh comes up with one of the greatest 343 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: christ try savers on a bloke thirty kilos bigger just 344 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: slips out of to his fingers. 345 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: Incredible, incredible to talk about Walsh's performance. You know, there 346 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: is a thing they call recency bias, where you know, 347 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: each year this we see a great Grand Final. That 348 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: is that the greatest Grand Final of all time? You 349 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: know might happen next to you again. But coops, Reese 350 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: Walsh is the new Grand Final King. That is the 351 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: best performance I've ever seen a Grand from mate. 352 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: You think of Nathan Cleary a couple of years ago 353 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: against the Broncos. That was a great clutch. I think 354 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: that's the greatest clutch performance under pressure in a time 355 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: when they need it. Unbelievable. But Reese Walsh's Grand Final 356 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: performance that is the best I've ever seen. And people 357 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: saying the stats a try three try assist those stats 358 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 2: on the stats book, they're unbelievable of themselves. You get 359 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: me out of the match in any game if you 360 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: put those stats up. But what he did with the 361 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: three try savers those three trial. I was in the 362 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: Melbourne sheds after the game talking to some of the 363 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: people in there, some of the coaches, and they were like, 364 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: he saved three tries, three clean tries, two that were 365 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: certain tries if he wasn't there with two is one 366 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 2: and then Ryan Pappenhausen's won off the scrum if he's 367 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 2: not there, like they they're over untouched. And then that 368 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: other play with two minutes ago, Ellie Cottowa goes through 369 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: and perhaps has scored that try in countless games. His 370 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 2: whole career is one of the greatest supporting fullbacks. He's quick. 371 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 2: No one really mows him down while she head fakes, 372 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 2: Ellie balks him and then just has a huge gamble 373 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 2: and just smokes paps. 374 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: He bullshited Ellie very beautifully. 375 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: And another thing you see, and that the only reason 376 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: I say that one wasn't a certain try is because 377 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 2: one of the great pictures the Broncos line, particularly pain Hass, 378 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: pain hass, after playing huge minutes being had a massive year. 379 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 2: I reckon even if while she doesn't do that, I 380 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: think pain gets him. You can see pain coming from 381 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: a mile. He instinctually just starts heading back in case 382 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: they make a line break, which is amazing instincts for 383 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: a front rower. And he was mumm back and I 384 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 2: reckon he gets him as well. But plays like that 385 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 2: are what wins grand finals. The tries you save are 386 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 2: what wins Grand finals. 387 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: And for people there like for Reese, what he did there. 388 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: When you're bull should player act like you in to 389 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: go to and then skip to the sport player? There 390 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: is a there is just a micro there's just a 391 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: tiny little opening for you. And that tiny opening is 392 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: when the player with the ball in his hands at're 393 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: bullshitting just glances to throw the pass. That is that 394 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: micro second that you need to go and then release. 395 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: And he did it just perfectly. 396 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: But that's his instincts. Like I got another great example 397 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: on some of his foot instincts, that stuff that you 398 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: cannot coach a footballer. That stuff that like when you 399 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: see players take these amazing instinctual intercepts, like that stuff 400 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: that is just naturally ingrained and from playing in the backyard, 401 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 2: from playing footy locally when you're a kid. While she 402 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: has some of the greatest football instincts, which is it's 403 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: not in any coaching system. Coaches actually don't want you 404 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: to do that. Like imagine his box and when he 405 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: reviews it, he would look at it and go, in 406 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: our system, I don't want my players actually gambling and 407 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: doing that because you always want to hold until the 408 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: balls out of their hand. But while she takes a gamble, 409 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: and if that doesn't come off, he probably gets sprayed 410 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 2: by his coach for doing that because it's not in 411 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: their system. But when it comes off, it's an instinct 412 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 2: that you want your players to back because that's that's 413 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 2: something you cannot coach and it's something that the opposition 414 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: aren't expecting him to do. 415 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: Great great players put more to the point, great leaders 416 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: in life know where to break the rules. Yeah, they 417 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: know you just can't. There's there's two types of players 418 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: coop who get a who get a coach sacked? Right? 419 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: Two types of players. The first one is the player 420 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: who does nothing that the coach wants. Everything the coach 421 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: tells him to do, he doesn't do. That gets the 422 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: coach sacked. But the other one who gets coach sacked 423 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: is the one that only does what the coach tells 424 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: him to do. Yeah, the other ones get sacked. And 425 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: that's where coaches some coaches don't understand, don't micro coach 426 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: someone sometimes, don't get a player just because it doesn't 427 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: come off. Don't pull him back, because these guys can 428 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: come up with a situation and win and win the game. 429 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: I remember we're playing the Broncos one day and Joey 430 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: got the ball, put his hand around the back of 431 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: Alfie and just threw it over the two people and 432 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: we got it in scored, and the coach, David Wait went, 433 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: what a play? What were you thinking? Like? What did 434 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: you see? And Joey goes, I don't know, I just 435 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just it just happened, and he goes, no, no, no, 436 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: But when you got what what happened? Why did you 437 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: go round out to Delf just I don't know. I 438 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: just I don't know. I just did it. And the 439 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: coach found that hard to believe. But that's that's all 440 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: great players do, and. 441 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: Coaches want to understand because they want to teach other 442 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: players like they want to be able to go, how 443 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: do I get that out of some of the other 444 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: players that I know have that ability? But how do 445 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: I encourage that? That stuff is just that? And that's 446 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 2: why a bloke like Joey who a bloke like Cameron Munster. 447 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: Some of these guys, they actually find it very hard 448 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: if you're a young player in that squad and you 449 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: go up two months or say, oh, what were you 450 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: seeing there? What we're seeing now? I was very much 451 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: like that because I love to understand the game. I 452 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: love to understand what he was thinking, so I could 453 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: write it down, I could implement it, I could try 454 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: to adapt that into other aspects of the game, because 455 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: I wasn't someone that could just do something frequently without 456 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: even knowing what it was, and here we go, I 457 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: don't know, here we go, I don't know. I just 458 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: I saw he was tired, and then my instincts just 459 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 2: took over. Like it's almost like autopilot. So they've been 460 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: playing footy for so long in the backyard that they 461 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: just their brain. It's like they just shut off and 462 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: they're just like completely an autopilot and they just do 463 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: things that other people can't. 464 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: They just back their instincts. A lot of people have 465 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: got this going into the game with that, you know, 466 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: playing a lot of football. We play a lot of 467 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: football as a kid mate. A lot of people could 468 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: carry those natural instincts into their careers, but at the 469 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: top level they won't use them. They choke on a 470 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: little bit where those guys Blacelott, Munster and Reese Walsh 471 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: trust their natural instincts and I'd just keep going with it. 472 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: Reese Wash Coup, did you think that the Melbourne would 473 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: be able to shut him down? Because if there's one 474 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: team of the competition that's proven, I reckon the last 475 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen years they were able to shut down 476 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 1: players on a red hot run, it's Melbourne. I think 477 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: about Jared Haynes in two thousand and nine. They're able 478 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: to do it. Ben Barber Benny Barber twenty twelve, and 479 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: I thought in myself, Man, if this is a side that 480 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: can shut Rees down, it's Melbourne. But the fact that 481 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: you're on the biggest stage against Melbourne makes it even 482 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: more freaking. 483 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: And I know from being their first hand on Grand 484 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: Final week how much work they put into the key player. 485 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: I know how much video, how much the boys were 486 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: drilled in into how to shut down Rees Walz. They 487 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: would have been looking at Gainst when he hasn't played 488 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: his best, where he makes his errors. I know they 489 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: would have had such a big plan, But Reese is 490 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 2: that instinctually good and they were getting him quick play 491 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: the balls and at the right time when Melbourne a 492 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 2: little bit fatigued, he just could not be stopped like 493 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: he's so strong. The best part about Brisbane is and 494 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about Melbourne in a second as well, 495 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: but Brisbane are so good off the cuff at lib 496 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 2: and it's what Melbourne. They have a better ability than 497 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: Melbourne in that sense. Melbourne well drilled, detailed. They scored 498 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: off some really nice, well executed shapes. But look at 499 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 2: all a Brisbane tries. They come off quick play the 500 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: balls and then their ability to add lib and just 501 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: get the ball to the space to the right man 502 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: and do it. The best thing I saw at the 503 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: game and I saw this I was watching this live. 504 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 2: They had this big ship. This is when Reese whal scored, 505 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: had this big shift to the right hand side ready 506 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: Tyson Smoothie gets it. The a defender comes off a 507 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: bit sideways to put pressure on him. He plays inside 508 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: to Kobe Heathering to a quick play the ball for 509 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: him and then they still had the same shape ready 510 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 2: to go on the right side. Smoothie was calling it 511 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 2: literally as Smoothie passed inside of Kobe Heatherington Reesewols was 512 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: watching the ruck, knowing it was going to be quick. 513 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: He just leaves that edge and just starts swings about 514 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: thirty meters, comes over to the left hand side overcalls 515 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: it to Corey Paiks to give it to him. Just 516 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: Chargers uses his gord given athletic ability, speed and power 517 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,479 Speaker 2: inside it beats Trentleyero beats Alec McDonald. I think it 518 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: was fens Off, Ryan Papenhausen and scores writer. I thought 519 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 2: when I watched that live, I thought that was nearly 520 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: one of the greatest like tries, that is, like based 521 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: off the cuff. His reaction straight away go boom, and 522 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: then to not even think and just go and react 523 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: and get the footy and go under the post. I 524 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: was I was blinding. 525 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: And the people he beat too along the way coups 526 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: and and I didn't realize until I watched the game 527 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: on second look where he came from. I thought he 528 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: must have been sitting behind the ruck. And when k 529 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: when Tyson's move, did a little clever little ball on 530 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: the inside to put the dent in the line, I 531 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: thought he was just coming from behind the behind the run. 532 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: Then as you said, he came swinging from the open 533 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: side and around. Have that to have that instinct and 534 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: or is it vision to go that's where the space 535 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: is going to be? Is freaking It is a mixture instinct, 536 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: but it's also football education as well. 537 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's your IQ. The only other player who I 538 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: saw that was the best at it as well, Tom Troyvich. 539 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: Turbo used to be able to just even before the 540 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: player had been tackled. He would know when it was 541 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: He was able to predict when it was going to 542 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: be a really quick play the ball, and he'd know 543 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: exactly where to be to get the space and used 544 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: to see it twenty twenty one he did it. But 545 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 2: even in twenty twenty three when I was there, he 546 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: was doing it, particularly at training, where he would just 547 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 2: be on the end of shape, on the end of shape, 548 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: see something, scrap everything, he'd overcall and he would just 549 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: get right foot on the adline and just it' alwa 550 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: just charged straight over the top of a fatiguing defender. 551 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: And Turbo's big, He's bigger than whal She in that sense, 552 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: he could actually run over the top of someone. That's 553 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: what made Walsh. She's so much more impressive because he 554 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: went straight through the middle beat about three. 555 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: Blokes and how many times we said in the podcast 556 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: in the modern game with the six again rules and 557 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: the fatigue in the middle, that's where the space is 558 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: straight over the event behind the rucks, particularly for those 559 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: quick blokes like Turbo and Blokesteal, smaller blokes, you know 560 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: that we're seeing in the game now, like you know, 561 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: even like having a Trey Fuller's an example, right, And 562 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm not comparing Trey Fuller to Reese Walsh, but Trey's 563 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: got the ability to do remarkable things and he knows 564 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: where the space is behind the ruck That's where the space. 565 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: It is starting to reward instinctual players the game, which 566 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 2: is what you want because Trey Fuller and debuted for 567 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: he debuted like older than most, but he was doing 568 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: that stuff in the Queensland Cup for years where the 569 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: ruckie is quite quick and it rewards instinctual players, and 570 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: it's good to see him starting to get Like the 571 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 2: game six again, it is starting to bring smaller and 572 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 2: less people who are just educated on shape. 573 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: That's bringing the stars to the four. That's why these 574 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: that's why the game is so good it coops Tea, 575 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: what was Tea? What was crucial in what Reee did 576 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: the other night and the Broncos winning the competition at 577 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: the back end of the regular season, when Adam Reynolds 578 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: wasn't there, Reese Walsh you could see he just went, well, 579 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: you know what, if I'm not going to do it, 580 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: that's not going to happen. And you start to see 581 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: him play on that sweep shape. You see him playing 582 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: a lot more first receiver, second receiver's just all over 583 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: the place. And you know he when you said just 584 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: before about you know the Broncos, the Broncos having the 585 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: ability to just play more off the cuff and willing 586 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: to take errors. That's Broncos football from the moment they 587 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: come into the competition nineteen eighty eight. That's what the 588 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: Broncos have been about, and that's they've rediscovered the Broncos DNA. 589 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: Reece Walsh has taken him back there. And another reason 590 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: that was so vital that period that rene was off 591 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: at the back end of the year was it's not 592 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: forget the other night. Reno and Ben Hunt didn't finish 593 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: the game. So Reese literally as he did at the 594 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: back end of the year. He had to carry the 595 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: team on his back and was able to do it. 596 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: And we spoke about the depth in that squad. The 597 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: depth was never been more tested than Sunday Night Ezra Man. 598 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: I thought Ezra Man was unbelievable and again energy not 599 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: what he did the footy, even it was some of 600 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: his kick chases, like chasing some of the kicks, and 601 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: then his defense like Ezra can whack. Ezra is a 602 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: really strong defender. And then even having someone like Tyan 603 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: Tyson Smoothie who ended up coming on when Benny Hunt 604 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: got knocked out. But his creativity, like he's going to 605 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: the Super League next year, which I thought was he 606 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,239 Speaker 2: I thought when he originally signed he was way too 607 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: good to be going to the Super League. Now it's 608 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: cemented like he's a Premiership player. 609 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: I think entice him not to go. Oh, you know 610 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: what you just did then, Kurt, you actually said Tyson 611 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: like Mike Tyson, you went tython. 612 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: Tathan, you didn't. 613 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: Hey, Just quickly before we move on the Broncos winning 614 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: well dounder Jack Johns. It was brought to our at 615 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: Tension from a podcast listener, Jack Johns at the start 616 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: of the year predicted the Broncos against the Storm the 617 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: Grand Final repeat of two thousand and six, and he 618 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: predicted that the Broncos would win. Take about jack. 619 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: Thanks to mego yeah, actually yeah, I predicted the I 620 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: said repeat after round one we did our predictions that I. 621 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 4: Had an exact repeat of the two thousand and six 622 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 4: Grand Final. 623 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: It's a bit. 624 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 3: I was a bit tested, tested a bit through the year. 625 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 3: I don't think that was going to happen, but yeah, 626 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: did you. 627 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 5: Son of a bit? 628 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: His son of again, I wish I put money on it. 629 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: I should have done it. 630 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: I wish I put money on it. 631 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah you know what? Oh yeah, okay, this is bad. 632 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: I've got two betting accounts, right, so one of the 633 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: betting accounts at start of the year when we had that, 634 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, when Madge got the job, after we had 635 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: that discussion with him here on the podcast. I thought 636 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: Madge going there something about him with the moment. He's 637 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: not a bit of a hot streak. So why to 638 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 1: crack at the Broncos at eight to one? I guess what, 639 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: I forgot my password on the other betting Oh I'm 640 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: trying to work out how. 641 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: You should be able to ring them up. In the 642 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: modern technology, there's like forget your. 643 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: Password, it's all sitting there. 644 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, hopeless. 645 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: I saw a bloke he can't get into his crypto 646 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: account and he has about he has like one hundred 647 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: million or something in that imagine. 648 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 3: I heard about the boat that's got the he lost 649 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: his he lost his hard drive, been searching for like 650 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: ten years for his old hard drive that had like 651 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 3: a thousand bitcoin on it. 652 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what I'm thinking about. Actually, did 653 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: you live with that? 654 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: He bought the dump that he's rubbish went to. He 655 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: bought it so he could go and search it for years. 656 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 5: And still that's do me back on the game for 657 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 5: one set because we're just talking about Sorry Jack, I'll 658 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 5: just turned it down. 659 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: So it made his short stint, got his win, got 660 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: he's wrap. 661 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: He's out short stint straight in ten minutes off the bench. 662 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: But we talked about the ad lip of the Broncos, 663 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: the ad lib Footye, how good they are at doing 664 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: that off the cuff. I thought Melbourne did their strengths 665 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 2: actually really well as well, particularly that first half. You 666 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: look at all their tries. Their tries come off some 667 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: really well executed shapes. Yeah, some shapes that they knew 668 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: were going to come off. A nice little deaf kick 669 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: for Eli Katowa, but they brought the line up, nice 670 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: kick for him. 671 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: He was good. 672 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: I thought Ellie wins Clive Churchill if storm winds. 673 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: I thought, I still think it's Reese. I still think Reese. 674 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think if you remove Urice Walsh from 675 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: and they win the Melbourne Storm, then yeah, I think 676 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: Ellie gets it and by far their best mate. 677 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: It was unbelieving that first try that they set up. 678 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: It was a really nice shift and they found Ellie. 679 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: He sort of did a little wrap around to I 680 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: think it was hugey tipped onto perhaps when Nick Meane 681 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: scored as well, a nice little weaving try. But all 682 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: of their shapes were so well executed, so well detailed, 683 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 2: and that the third try he set up one for 684 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: will Warbrick where they did a little shape. It's the 685 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: old Sam Thiday and State of Origin shape where Jerome 686 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: Hughes passes it. Well, it was back in the day. 687 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: It was Cooper Crunk to Sam Thriday back inside to 688 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: Billy Slater. Yep, that was the shape they were trying 689 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 2: to set up for the outside insight. They team's identity. 690 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: Teams defend that enough. They identified it, so the half 691 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: rather than go to Elli, stayed on the full back. 692 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: Ellie identified that and just zinged it straight out to 693 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: Will Warbrick, knowing that the other two were tight, and 694 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: then that that is a hard pass and a hard 695 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: thing to identify for a back row. Off not mean 696 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: lot of back We used to actually try to do 697 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: that shape with Felice back in the day, but like Felice, 698 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: couldn't couldn't execute it. Hopeless pass. No, but it is 699 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: so hard for a back rower who's built like they typically, 700 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 2: they're not built with a vision of halves. They're bigger 701 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: and they punch holes. Ellie has got so many strings 702 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: to his bow, it's ridiculous. 703 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: Before we talk more about Melbourne, Coop and talk about 704 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: after the game she went in the sheds and whatnot. 705 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: Pat Carrigan hasn't been spoken of a billy at all. 706 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: His fresh legs, full lungs after missing the week before, 707 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: he was he was fantastic mate, He he was, he 708 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: was one. He was one of the very best on 709 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: the fields. That was pain and pain just mate. It's 710 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: really funny. It shows you how busted he was, right Coop, 711 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: how busted he was. He was replaced at the twenty 712 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: sixth minute mart which is it's rare got him off 713 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: and he went back on the fifty fifth minute and 714 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: was unbelievable. Second stint, but that's a fair stint for Pain. 715 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: That just shows me of how how he's been carrying injuries, 716 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: the load he's been carrying, and that Madge recognized that 717 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: and just reduced his minutes for more impact. 718 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: I like that, and I've always been a believer in 719 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: even what the Gold Coast do with like Tino Fasti. 720 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 2: The I don't want to say the worst clubs, but 721 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: the clubs who are very reliant on one or two, 722 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,959 Speaker 2: like big name forwards, they play them for too long 723 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 2: and they're become ineffective. I think this year Madg has 724 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: been really good for Pain in Like, Mate, I don't 725 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 2: need seventy eighty minutes out of you. I'm going to 726 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 2: cut your time back to say, you know, max sixty minutes. 727 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: But what you're going to do in that sixty minutes 728 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: for me is you're going to be as fresh as 729 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: possible and you're going to be high energy. And I 730 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 2: want more impact from you rather than just a consistent 731 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 2: port Gallon performance, because Gal will get out of there. 732 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 2: He'd make fifty or sixty tackles and he would grind 733 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: out like as much work as possible, like in the 734 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 2: modern game. And when you have those big power athletes 735 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 2: like Tino, like Pain, I don't think you eat him 736 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 2: for even if they can, you don't need him for 737 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: that long. 738 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: Coop hats off to blokes who make fifty and sixty 739 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: chatholate games that they are incredible, but then they're not 740 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: explosive players. Yeah, and like paying second stints this year 741 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: have been monumental. Been one of the secrets, one of 742 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: their secret sources made him coming off. I thought he 743 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: was fantastic and I thought, Zavie Wilson, hasn't he been 744 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 1: a fine Yeah, I thought, I thought, coming back from 745 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: his injury, he's been fantastic and. 746 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 2: He's been awesome, and he's making his Kiwi's debut as well. 747 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 2: It could have been in that New Zealand side, so 748 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: I shout out to him. 749 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the other at football in 750 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: a second. But Coop had with the boys in the 751 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: sheds after the game. 752 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 2: It was it was it was sad, like I was 753 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 2: in there last year as well, had a arm but 754 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: last year, I think, you know, getting beat by Penrith. 755 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 2: This year really hurt, like to go back to back losses. 756 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 2: And I've been in the I've been a part of 757 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: playing squads in twenty eighteen against the Roosters when we 758 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: got beat and that was. When you're in a playing squad, 759 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: it's it's hard to gauge like losses suck because you're 760 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 2: training all year to get to this moment, you know, 761 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 2: all the work that people got into. And then I've 762 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 2: been a part of winning ones as well, But I 763 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 2: actually found this one the hardest one because when you're 764 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 2: not in the playing squad and you see how gut 765 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: wrenching the boys are hurting, like what do you say? 766 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: Like it was, it was actually really tough in it, 767 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 2: and it was the boys were I haven't seen the 768 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: boys that shattered in a while, Like it was. It 769 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 2: was very sad vibes in there. I actually found like 770 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 2: I did find it hard to talk to a few 771 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: of the boys straight after, just because like you don't 772 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 2: know whether you want to lift the spirits up or 773 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 2: you don't know whether you want to just keep them, like, 774 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: just talk to them about how shit the feeling is. 775 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: Well. I was in the I was doing a little 776 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: bit of halves coaching of the Melbourne Storm. Was in 777 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: the sheds aft think I'd be forty nil by manly. 778 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: What was that? Probably a little somber, Yeah, I imagine 779 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: fair to say they're just sort of hiding in the 780 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: corner a little bit avoiding belly ache. Yeah, yeah, how 781 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: were they because oftentimes players are absolutely heartbroken and the 782 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: heartbreak doesn't go away, it just gets it just getting 783 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: gets numbed when you start to have a few beers. 784 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: How were they back to the hotel having a few drinks? 785 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 2: Like still still pretty sad, Like I wouldn't say that, 786 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 2: like we went overly hard, Like I sort of just 787 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 2: sat there and I just said to when you are 788 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 2: ready to go to bed, I'll sit here and drink 789 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 2: with his too. He's ready to go to bed. Really, 790 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 2: because there was they had a little bit of a 791 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 2: post GF a vent on with a lot of the 792 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 2: friends and family and sponsors and whatnot. But I mean 793 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 2: it was very much like throughout there'd be there'd be 794 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 2: there'd be half an hour spurts of like you know, 795 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 2: having a laugh, having a laugh, and then the next 796 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 2: half an hour one of the boys go we lost that, 797 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: man like, and then they relive those moments back over 798 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: in your head. I do not miss that feeling of 799 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 2: like you're reliving one or two movements where you think, 800 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 2: oh I could have done that, or like oh we 801 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 2: had them here but we didn't do that, like yeah, 802 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 2: so yeah, like to lose it. I was in the 803 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 2: uber home, I was, I was sitting there and I 804 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 2: was thinking, we don't reward like, we don't really reward 805 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 2: silver medals in in team sports, like in teen sports. 806 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 2: We don't like either your win or you're like basically 807 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 2: your wooden spoon, like it doesn't really matter. 808 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: In fact, they hit sometimes they get more maligned than 809 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: the teams who lose the qualifiers. 810 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking, like, would you rather than get 811 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: beat in a prelim because you still had a great 812 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 2: year than getting beat a grand final? Like not many 813 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 2: people can say they've played in two Grand finals. I 814 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 2: know they've gone back to back losses, but like the 815 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 2: hurt and the heartache, like there is there is not 816 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 2: much There is not much reward for getting there and 817 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: getting silver anymore, like. 818 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: Those of the week itself, leading in I mean, it's 819 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: a great week, leading in all ccelerations. But you're right 820 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: how it finishes, like I imagine, it tends to be 821 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: the thing you remember, like. 822 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 2: Heindi, Hendy played in one or two Grand finals. I 823 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 2: played in two, and I'd like, I wonder in hindsight, 824 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 2: like it must be. I was actually feeling a honding 825 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 2: because I was going, everyone takes a piece out of 826 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 2: hand if you not winning one. But seeing the boys 827 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: after that game lose to lose to like it must 828 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 2: be tough. I wonder if Hendi ever wishes like he 829 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 2: just didn't make one full start. 830 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: Heindi says all the time, says to Flitch and I 831 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 1: and he said, I'm not kidding, he said, I actually 832 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: just I can't stand ground. Final day, he said, when 833 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 1: they hand out the trophy at the end, he said, 834 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: I leave the room anyway. Fletch, a bloke Fletcher a 835 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: made of Fletchers, took a photo at a pub where 836 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: it was pumping and as they were giving the traphic, 837 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: he took a photo of Heindi, HENDI looks so sad. 838 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,280 Speaker 2: Oh I looked so sad. 839 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: All these people are jumping around having a great time 840 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: for he's just sitting there. 841 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 2: It's funny the person smoke packets postgame, like we jumped up. 842 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 2: We jumped on like a bus back to the hotel, 843 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 2: and some of the Broncos families were walking to the 844 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 2: but like their buses was picking up from the same spot, 845 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 2: which like timing wasn't perfect at that time. But I 846 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 2: was walking back with Billy's brothers, Jet and Harry Harry, 847 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 2: and because I played with Billy so I know the 848 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 2: family quite well, and I'm walking back and Harry was 849 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 2: that excited baite. Harry was screaming and he's walking surrounded 850 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 2: by like fifty of the Melbourne Storm friends and family, 851 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 2: and he's going, we did it, Coops, we did it. 852 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 2: And I'm going don't say we did it, because I'm 853 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 2: going back to. 854 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: The Melbourne going, oh god. 855 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 2: I remember Harry's mother and dad were looking back on 856 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 2: who's this one cup and I was like, that's not me, 857 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 2: it's Harry. But yeah, like I can't imagine the celebrations 858 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 2: that they're having up there at the moment. 859 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,760 Speaker 1: Deserve what what? What a year for prisoner sporting teams 860 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: and the AFL? What else was there? There was something 861 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: else as well. They wont Someone pointed them all out 862 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 1: to me. It's just you remember Bulldog reached in the 863 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: middle of the year. They won the Origin as well 864 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 1: and Bulldog of the Year just coming. What a terrible 865 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: what a terrible year for sporting teams just went boom 866 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom. 867 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Queen he goes in Queensland Cowboys. Yeah he started 868 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 2: rat like hammering all the Queensland and. 869 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bullog's curse, the Bullogrichy curse. 870 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know the Queensland side. Instead of tell 871 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 2: you what I think, it'd be a great time, to 872 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 2: a great week to be a Queenslander up there. It'd 873 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 2: be fun. I can't imagine Reecee Walsh because he was 874 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: a star before, right like while she was a big 875 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 2: star before. Obviously people loved him, not just for his 876 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 2: football ability, but like his swagger, his energy, his good 877 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 2: looking young blokes. A lot of a lot of girls 878 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 2: love him. So he's had a big following on social 879 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 2: media and whatnot. But up there now, after that performance, 880 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: the best game he's ever played, he will never buy 881 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 2: a beer in Queensland again. I will guarantee that. 882 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: What he's in for this next twelve months, Like I mean, 883 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: it was rees Mania anywhere it went anyway, Like you 884 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: know when they went to Newcastle for that week on 885 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: every training session the ground so they went was just 886 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 1: they packed sold out nights fans just to suit most 887 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: of them. See Reese Walsh And so what's going to 888 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: be next year? Like, because he's just gone to another 889 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: straight fear again. I can't wait to see the reaction 890 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: he gets in England. He will make a big splash 891 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: over there. 892 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 2: I not not that I worry for him or anything, 893 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 2: but I hope he's. I hope he's because a lot 894 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 2: of people will start just just suckling at the teat 895 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 2: of Reese Walsh. I really hope that he gets because 896 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 2: the only other comparison I can give to that sort 897 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 2: of stardom was Cameron Munster twenty twenty gf into probably 898 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 2: the greatest Origin performance series ever. Coops and Money. Money 899 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 2: really struggled the next year. He enjoyed himself over the 900 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 2: off season, but he really struggled. I think mentally really 901 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: struggled the next year as well. Given he's like his 902 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 2: profile went through the roof, flow absolutely through. He still 903 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 2: gets brought beers over there from his twenty twenty COVID 904 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 2: performance and. 905 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: I think even but I think money would say, I reckon, 906 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: it's only about half what Ree is going to get. 907 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think about half who I compare it to. 908 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: I think what's waiting for him this year as far 909 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: as national stardom probably warning. 910 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, it's gone past regular 911 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 2: because Nathan Clear has been huge profile as well, But 912 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 2: this is another level again because there's. 913 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: More than football. That's his swagger and attitude, that's his 914 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: rock star looks, all those things people just love. But yeah, 915 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: your spot on. I think the Broncos be there now, 916 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: going right up. We're going to just put some things 917 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: in place because this is going to start to get 918 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: fucking crazy. 919 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 2: Well, I reckon it's more his manager, because I think 920 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 2: Broncos are going to want to They're going to want 921 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 2: to cash in on whilst she's brand a little bit. 922 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 2: I think it needs to be a little bit of 923 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 2: like he needs to get looked after by his management 924 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 2: and like helping him with the right direction. But also 925 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 2: like if I'm him, you'd want him almost bumping blokes 926 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 2: like Munster and be like mate, like a bit of 927 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 2: advice from leaders have been there in that similar position before. 928 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: But for the Broncos, it's about like every way, every 929 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: away game, like getting off the bus. It's like it's 930 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 1: sports version of boodle mania. So Jack, oh, Jack, I. 931 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 3: Was just going to say too, did you see that 932 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 3: when the stock market opened on Monday or Tuesday? I 933 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 3: can't tell because of the long weekend, but see the 934 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,479 Speaker 3: Broncos share price went up by fifty cents incredible after 935 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 3: the win. 936 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: So it's it's worth one hundred and eighty million now. 937 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 5: The club, it was, yeah, well they're they're they're the 938 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,280 Speaker 5: biggest brand in NRL. They've got like they smash everyone 939 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 5: out of the water in terms of members, like out 940 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 5: of the game. 941 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 2: I can't. I was doing some stuff out there with 942 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 2: JARCHI pregame interview on some of the punters. Mate struggled 943 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 2: to find a storm supporter in Manly yesterday. Yeah, Mate, 944 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 2: I went in Manly yesterday to catch up with mate. 945 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 2: Poor old Harry Grant, even through his in the depths 946 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 2: of his heartache, he sent me a text early in 947 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 2: the morning, Mum and Dad are going over to Manly tomorrow. 948 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 2: Would you like to catch up with him and absolutely Gasi, 949 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 2: the Pig and Margie. So we went in there and 950 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 2: as I text text the pig of course that's his nickname, 951 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 2: his dad. Yeah, but he is an In fact, ap. 952 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: Pig was there with with his brother mate. What about 953 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: how they talk to each other. So Pig's here with 954 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: his Harry's uncle, who's his brother. They just one They've 955 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 1: only got one name for each other's cocked. 956 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 957 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: Do you want to be cockhead? You sweet cocked? What 958 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 1: did you drink godhead? Yeah, mate, I'll just get us 959 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,240 Speaker 1: some mid strengths, cockhead, and he came back and cocked. 960 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,320 Speaker 1: There was no miad strengths. I've got your light cock it. 961 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't drink a lot. 962 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 2: But it's not just them, mate, because I spun this yard. 963 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 2: Remember when me and Harry were up to port earlier 964 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,399 Speaker 2: in the year to see his grand pig, to see 965 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 2: Pig's dad, Harry's grandpa. It's they go up there once 966 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 2: year playing the Cockhead Cup, which is a golf day 967 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 2: that they all do up there. But the brothers everyone, 968 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 2: He's got a brother whose name monkey unless his nickname. 969 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 2: Obviously they got pig Monkey, they got Billy John, and 970 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 2: they got George and every they all talked to each 971 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 2: other's game cockhead, Hey, coh. 972 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: See someone took a sign to the game Harry's mates 973 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,479 Speaker 1: when you put your hand up if you think Harry 974 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: is a. 975 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 2: Cocka mate they do that every big game. Harry's in. 976 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 2: That guy and his name's Nell aka the Tadpole. He 977 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 2: the Tadpole makes a sign in his Iride first Origin 978 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 2: series he said Harry's a wanker, and then the following 979 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 2: Origin series made another sign that said Harry is still 980 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 2: a wanker. Like my favorite ever sign is Sammi Verrel's debut. 981 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 2: All the boys from Avalon went up and they had 982 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 2: a sign and said sam Verels likes Blue car Keys 983 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 2: but like a play on words of Boka keys and 984 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 2: they but they put it on the coverage. They put 985 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 2: it on the because obviously they came am and didn't 986 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 2: know what they were like getting at, and it was like, 987 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 2: there it is, look at Sammy Belle's friends have found 988 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 2: me out there advertising the Blue car kis. 989 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: Oh merely yesterday made Broncos fans people traveling over to 990 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 1: New Zealand for the game as well. Yeah, kiwis everywhere, 991 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: but Broncos fans. 992 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they were saying about a Sydney team, I 993 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 2: wonder what it's going. 994 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: To be like. It's awesome. 995 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 2: Who made the game has not been stronger in everywhere. 996 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: And big thank you to the Whollow Sport Boys, to Jacko. 997 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: Me and Jack went to the Stain. We did a 998 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 1: bit of stuff there with the Hallow Sports Boys, Tommy 999 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: and Eddie fantastic. 1000 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,760 Speaker 4: There was a live crew down there. There are their listeners. 1001 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: I was. 1002 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 4: I was in there in the lineup beforehand. 1003 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 3: As it was getting started, and Ge Whizz was about 1004 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty of them just ready to go. 1005 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 4: I reckon. I would have hated to be in the stain. 1006 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 3: Beyond six o'clock because it was three beers and they 1007 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 3: were all lathered up at three o'clock. 1008 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: Painters they called punters and dribblers and dribblers. It would 1009 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: have been dribbling. 1010 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Like with that late Grand Final. 1011 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 2: I got out to there, I got out of the stadium. 1012 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 2: I did be out there for three point thirty. People 1013 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 2: were that maggot. I have not seen so many drunk 1014 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 2: people in one place. I was going, the game's got 1015 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 2: to be earlier because some people would not have seen. 1016 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 2: I promise you now, some people would not have made 1017 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 2: it to seven thirty eight o'clock with how I saw 1018 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 2: them patrolling around a Core stadium at three point thirty. 1019 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 2: There were people that were literally getting carried. 1020 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but keeps now. I think you want the broncost 1021 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 1: to go back to Brisbane that night, like in the 1022 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: height of the and amonium. You want them to be 1023 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: able to jumple a plane quickly get back and get 1024 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,800 Speaker 1: to Brisbane Airport where they'd just be tens of thousands 1025 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: a bit. 1026 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 2: Imagine that's what you were a love like you guys 1027 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 2: jump straight on the bus went back to Newcastle. When 1028 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 2: we went in twenty twenty, we couldn't go anywhere. But 1029 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 2: what was sick was we had a charter flight. Then 1030 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 2: we had to get back to the accommodation anyway because 1031 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 2: you had to isolate and whatnot back then. But being blind, 1032 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 2: everyone's got their rings on carrying the trophy onto the 1033 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 2: charter flight with all the friends and family, like there 1034 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 2: is something special about that. Having to travel the next 1035 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 2: morning when like the adrenaline starts to kick out. 1036 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: Of the systems make places so hung over it. 1037 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 2: I saw about seven thirty in the morning the Broncos 1038 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 2: boys got back to their hotel, had to pack and 1039 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 2: then go on their flight back to Brizzi, and there 1040 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 2: was that like reporters out the front, like mate, what 1041 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 2: are you feeling? And I felt for the boys because 1042 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 2: like you could tell the had just started getting sucked 1043 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 2: out of them and like the adrenaline body would have 1044 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 2: started feeling. The body was a bit soret what they've 1045 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 2: just been through too. 1046 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you get the physical punishment taking a throw 1047 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: on loudmouth soup in yourself. 1048 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, I've got some stuff for you. Actually, 1049 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 2: because I've got here, I want to there's a couple 1050 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 2: I want to show you first all the picture. Now, 1051 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen this or not, but 1052 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 2: the funny thing about this is, obviously, while she they've 1053 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 2: leant right into the toilet water stuff. Obviously it's performance 1054 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 2: enhancing in their eyes. But what I love about what 1055 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 2: match did they brought a toilet? They brought a toilet 1056 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 2: mug into the sheds after the game and Madge and 1057 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 2: while she was sculling for Rex's out of it, which 1058 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 2: I thought was funny. But the best part about it 1059 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,240 Speaker 2: is while she would have had to have packed that mug, 1060 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 2: hoping that they'd won so he could do that before 1061 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 2: we gain. 1062 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly so if they got beat and he would 1063 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: have pulled him out, he wouldn't have. 1064 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 2: You couldn't. You couldn't have been caught on photo drinking 1065 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 2: out of it. 1066 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: If he certainly must have had a good feeling about 1067 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:54,919 Speaker 1: the game. 1068 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 2: It was so because that you must be confident to 1069 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 2: do that. Shand Or in twenty twenty did that. Brought 1070 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 2: he bought all the goggles. You know how everyone wears 1071 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 2: the goggles now and smokes our cigars like the NBA. 1072 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 2: Shandor bored all of that, but he wasn't playing, and 1073 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 2: he didn't tell anyone he'd done it. He bought it 1074 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 2: all and had it in the sheds ready in case 1075 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 2: we'd won. If we'd lost, it probably would have just 1076 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 2: burnt it like I never want a big caught with it. 1077 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: In the eighty nine Grand Final, Kerry Hemsley was there. 1078 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 1: Big front rail used used to be a bike. He 1079 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: used to ride Harley Davison's everywhere he played. He played 1080 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,760 Speaker 1: the first half and got replaced at halftime. He's watching 1081 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: the game in the stands by that stage. Had the 1082 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: shower he's ready to go. We're ten minutes ago. He goes, mate, 1083 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,919 Speaker 1: this is in the bag. It might have been less 1084 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: five minutes ago. This is in the bag. So he 1085 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,800 Speaker 1: went up to the dressing room and brought down the 1086 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 1: champagne ready and then Canberra scored. 1087 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 2: No way, mate, who am I thinking about right now? 1088 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 2: Fletch no, no, no, somebody see me. Thid I was 1089 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 2: out doing a talk at the locker room, which is 1090 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 2: the pub across from a call before the game. Were 1091 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 2: doing like a Q and a thing. Right before the 1092 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 2: Grand Final, Sammy Thoide said in that twenty twenty three 1093 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 2: GF when they got beat he was up in the 1094 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 2: corporates and then he went, you know, I'm going down 1095 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 2: to the sheds now and I have a beer in 1096 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 2: the sheds for the end of the game. He went 1097 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 2: down with that fifteen twenty minutes to go and missed 1098 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 2: all the Nathan clearage, try, try, try, and then when 1099 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,919 Speaker 2: they come back in obviously like obviously he realized before 1100 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 2: they come back in because he would have heard the heartbreak. 1101 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 2: But he went down and was sitting in the shed 1102 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,359 Speaker 2: sinking beers and just didn't realize that they just had 1103 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 2: formed this massive company because you look back, Ezra men 1104 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 2: scored three tries. They were like three or four tries ahead. 1105 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 1: Mate. One of the greatest stories of all time, Jacktas 1106 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: alluded to Fletcher tells, was when Fletcher was captain of 1107 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: Souths and would have been two thousand and three, two 1108 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: thousand and two or something. Anyway, Paul Ammick is the 1109 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,359 Speaker 1: coach of South and they'd been having a horrid run 1110 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: and they're playing Broncos at home. Broncos are attacking their 1111 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: line with like thirty seconds to go. Anyway, Broncos come 1112 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 1: up with an error. Anyway, both Wayne and Lane Mack 1113 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,359 Speaker 1: go well, game's over and they go. Both of them 1114 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 1: hop in the lift. Meanwhile, there's both of them hop 1115 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: in the lift. Paul Stringer takes a ball up from 1116 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: South Gordon gets a one on one, stool throws out 1117 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 1: the wing and they score. Right. Paul lang Mack and 1118 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: Wayne are in the lift going down. They've seen none 1119 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: of it right and Wayne Wayne goes, are good on 1120 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 1: your lingers and he's go mate, Wayne, thanks very much mate. Anyway, 1121 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,240 Speaker 1: they go down and lame Mack goes down into the sheds. 1122 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 1: He can hear all the noise from the crowd, but 1123 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 1: he doesn't know. He just thinks they're all celebrating. He 1124 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 1: Fletch said, they go up the race, right, and as 1125 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 1: he's going up the race, Wayne's there and he go here, 1126 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,240 Speaker 1: good on your Fletch, and he he thinks that Wayne 1127 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: knows they've lost. He goes fuck off. Its still being 1128 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 1: smart ass, right, So Wayne is oblivious to the fact 1129 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: as well. Mate. Fletch goes up, turns, goes in the 1130 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,879 Speaker 1: south dressing room and laying is in there with Champagne gains. Yeah, 1131 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 1: fucking beauty. They had to break the news that beg beaten. 1132 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,880 Speaker 2: Ah, that is all the time, that would be you CBS. 1133 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 1: Okay, can I ask you some just things before we 1134 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,959 Speaker 1: finish up things? I don't know if whether he can answer, 1135 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: but these are really big things, Peraps are three sixty. 1136 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: I get the feeling. I just get the gut. Philly's 1137 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,879 Speaker 1: on his way out of Melbourne. What do you think 1138 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 1: that's a good question. 1139 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1140 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 2: I don't really, It's hard. It's hard to know with 1141 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,720 Speaker 2: Paps because he is like, uh, he's quite like different 1142 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 2: in that sense where he could sort of like be 1143 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 2: interested by Rubby. Through sixty he went to Oakhill College 1144 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 2: and rugby background as well. It's hard to get a gauge, 1145 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 2: like I really actually struggle to get a gauge because 1146 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 2: I I wouldn't be surprised if you did, though, and 1147 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 2: you do get that sort of They've always had like 1148 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 2: a bit of a relationship where you go like bits 1149 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 2: and pieces where he's been hurt and that's sometimes they've 1150 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 2: they've looked to offload him in different times. 1151 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 1: I look that that does look like a bit of 1152 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: a difficult relationship at times, perhaps in the storm. There's 1153 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 1: been periods that you know, there was times that I 1154 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: remember they offered him around that time and no one 1155 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: took him. And then he had periods where he was 1156 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: injured and they wanted him to get back on the 1157 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: field but he couldn't. So there's there's been times have 1158 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: been a little problematic. 1159 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,399 Speaker 2: If I had to put money on it, I would 1160 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 2: I'd probably go, Yeah, I think I reckon. That's just 1161 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 2: that's just my instinct. 1162 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 1: Okay, if he announces he's going to go and it 1163 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: doesn't start till next October, do you think the Melbourne 1164 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: storm will keep him there or do you think so 1165 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: far along a girl will go in and they'll make 1166 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: you free to go. I would say, don't want to 1167 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: lose Sewer as well. 1168 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they've got Sower anyway locked up for 1169 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 2: a little bit. 1170 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 1: So I. 1171 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 2: I reckon he go. I reckon he go, but because 1172 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 2: I think I think Rugby want him to go. Now, 1173 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 2: that's what I think the same thing with Lomax. They're 1174 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 2: saying if he's well, I'm pretty sure he's already basically done. 1175 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 2: I think if he goes, they're wanting him to play 1176 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,800 Speaker 2: rugby for that six months, either in Japan or France 1177 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 2: and then get that instinct back because you've got to 1178 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 2: learn the gap like. They don't want it to come 1179 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 2: over without any sort of rugby base. So I think 1180 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 2: that the players that Rugby three sixty who want to buy, 1181 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 2: I imagine that they're going to want to get out 1182 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 2: straight away. 1183 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: Okay, who are going to put your money on? With Munster? 1184 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 1: There's talked or the Wallaby's looking at him, but I 1185 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: just can't see that. Okay, but Wallaby's Perth stay at Melbourne. 1186 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,760 Speaker 1: What do you think with Munster? It sounds like Perth 1187 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: Perth will come in big for him. 1188 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised I think Melbourne. I reckon, 1189 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,879 Speaker 2: I think he'll stay. If you asked me like six 1190 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 2: months ago, I would have I think Melbourne, and I 1191 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 2: think I think they need to figure out what they're 1192 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 2: going to do with Papenhausen first, because if papenhous and 1193 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 2: if perhaps is like if Perhaps says, oh, look I 1194 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 2: want to go to rugby, which if they're going to 1195 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:51,800 Speaker 2: throw a lot of money a perhaps, I wouldn't be 1196 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 2: surprised if he does, because like he has had some 1197 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 2: lingering injuries around, but they could potentially shift Monster to 1198 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 2: full back and open it up for Pezzant and Hughsey 1199 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,319 Speaker 2: in the Hearts. So that's what makes me think they 1200 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 2: want to. They want to. They want to sort Peraps 1201 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 2: out first. In terms of what he wants to. 1202 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 1: Do, I don't know. I think at this point in 1203 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 1: his career and he's had sort of hip injuries in 1204 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 1: that I don't know if he could play for that 1205 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,879 Speaker 1: long term. But anyway, Nelson, Okay, Nelson, do you think 1206 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 1: he's about to leave Melbourne because there's lots of reports 1207 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: that he's created the storm is over. Have you heard anything? 1208 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:27,760 Speaker 2: No, I haven't heard anything. 1209 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,479 Speaker 6: I haven't really heard anything about any of those boys, 1210 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,799 Speaker 6: they're pretty they're pretty good at keeping it like in 1211 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 6: how people think, like boys in the locker room going like, 1212 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 6: you know, talking about contract stuff. 1213 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 2: No one actually ever does. Like it's such a surprise 1214 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 2: to even the playing group when a boy goes, you know, 1215 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 2: I'm actually signing here, I'm signing that, because no one 1216 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,319 Speaker 2: really has the balls to ask people up front, like 1217 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 2: are you are you thinking about going to union? Because 1218 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 2: it's awkward, but I reckon Nelson will go. I think 1219 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 2: Nelson will go, yeah, Yeah, they've had I think this 1220 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 2: year's just been a bit of a weird like it's 1221 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 2: he's always they've always had a bit of a relationship 1222 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 2: where he's almost started in reserve grade, but then like 1223 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 2: by the end of the year has really come good 1224 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 2: and they've mended that relationship. But I feel like it hasn't. 1225 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 2: It hasn't this year given the suspension. I think if 1226 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 2: he'd come back in this that side and then hadn't 1227 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 2: got suspended and was really impactful in their final series, 1228 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 2: I would have said yes. 1229 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 1: But I think I think his sheer size, which was 1230 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 1: his greatest advantage under these new rules, it has become 1231 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 1: a disadvantage for him. Yea, that ability to get down 1232 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 1: against those smaller blokes and make those tackles. He's just 1233 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: clipping everyone high and yeah, some of that it's just 1234 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 1: body position for him. He's find it hard to get 1235 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: in the proper tackle position. 1236 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard because the game is so quick now too. 1237 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 2: You don't have that much time to actually react with 1238 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 2: your defense like you you can't. Sometimes it's hard for 1239 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 2: him to actually even get down quick enough to hit them. 1240 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 2: So it is it has been quite tough for him. 1241 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 1: Any final words on the Grand Final. I just want 1242 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 1: to do a big chip well only once again to 1243 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 1: the Brisbane. 1244 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 2: I want to a video. 1245 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,040 Speaker 1: It's been oh okay the video just it's been a 1246 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: long time between the from the Golden years but all 1247 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 1: under the Broncos you got back there well under Magic, 1248 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 1: good stuff. Shout out to him what he got for 1249 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: you saw this. 1250 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 2: But the boys like while she and all that went 1251 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 2: like Instagram live, TikTok live after the game and they 1252 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,919 Speaker 2: were like, that's dangerous. I love it, but I reckon 1253 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 2: that's that funny because it's so good for the fans 1254 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 2: like who were sitting at home drunk, just like they 1255 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 2: were messaging all the boys going, look, take your shirts off. 1256 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 2: But there's some funny there's a there's just a funny 1257 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 2: thing where they went after Buzz roll feel quite heavily. 1258 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 5: So I wasn't sure if you'd seen it yet. So 1259 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 5: I wanted to just play one of my favorite partner. Okay, 1260 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 5: Jordan Ricky just kept going. 1261 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 7: Anyone got Jordan Ricky's had a few goes a Buzz. Yes, 1262 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 7: I've heard Buzz talk about it. But Buzz understands buzzes 1263 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 7: and old journey mate. He's pretty thick and he knows 1264 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 7: that if you're going to have a shot one way, 1265 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 7: it's a boomerang, it's going to come back. 1266 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think he has a big problem with 1267 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 1: it at all. 1268 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 2: It is I can't wait for them to get in 1269 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 2: to say it like it would be so funny when 1270 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 2: they get I wonder what Buzz did. I wonder if 1271 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,439 Speaker 2: he did he have an article about them or something. 1272 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 1: I think it was about how through the year. You 1273 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 1: know he's saying about Madge, saying about you know, he 1274 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 1: trained him too hard and he's over the top, and 1275 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 1: you know Madge was critical. I'm sorry, Buzz was really 1276 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 1: critical of Madge of some of the training, the fact 1277 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 1: you took them on a boat cruise, all those things. 1278 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: I think he wrung Madge and I think Madge basically 1279 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 1: told Buzz to get fucked and sort of things escalated 1280 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 1: from there. 1281 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 2: I wonder if anyone gave him Madge's number. I reckon 1282 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 2: someone would have said. I wonder, because, like I remember 1283 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 2: when we were on Monday celebrations after the camp, we 1284 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 2: were prank calling so many people, like just so many, 1285 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 2: not like journals, but like other head coaches and ship like. 1286 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 2: We just ring them and be like and they knew 1287 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 2: it was us because I could hear the music and 1288 00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 2: shit in the background. They didn't, no one really cared. 1289 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 2: They thought it was funny, but we just like spray them. 1290 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 2: And then I wonder if I wouldn't be surprised if 1291 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 2: some of those Bronx boys got Mago and then just 1292 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 2: started to prank call them. 1293 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 1: But it wouldn't surprise me. The Australian cyber his name, 1294 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 1: I tear what how good is the the postseason rep 1295 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 1: stuff gonna be h It's gonna be good. In a 1296 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 1: second show, talk about the summer on the Tonga sides. 1297 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: But the Australians had great Spine selections, Nathan Cleary, Munster, 1298 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,440 Speaker 1: Mitch Moses, Tommy did and how he grant, Blake Browley 1299 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: on deboo, Well done Blake, Dylan Edwards, Reese Walsh, my 1300 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:35,400 Speaker 1: God Megastar and Ethan Strange on aboo first call up 1301 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Rep Football World Underweath and well done Mark. Now I'm 1302 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,360 Speaker 1: going to say as well, they've picked him, you know, 1303 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 1: well under Kevy's picking him to Shibasaki. What a turnaround 1304 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 1: the career. Jacob Preston, Klum and Tonguey has picked as 1305 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 1: well from debutants. Good on your boys. 1306 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, think it's a good one. And they're saying that 1307 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 2: because I believe they haven't confirmed it yet, but Xavier 1308 01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 2: Coats and Zachlomax were picked, but apparently they're both out 1309 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 2: with some sort of injury, so they're saying Bradman Best 1310 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 2: and josh Ada Carr will come in, which that's awesome, 1311 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 2: great for the Fox. Oh the friend of the Potty. 1312 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 5: But he's gotten back to remember he said a few 1313 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 5: weeks back when we had him on, he said, I'd 1314 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 5: love to get back to that rapp arena. 1315 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 2: So if that is the case, shout out to him 1316 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 2: because that's. 1317 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: Sick, looked at the Kiwi side, goes for that, saying 1318 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 1: you don't need to run through the Kuwi side. It's fantastic. 1319 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 1: I look at the national rankings. Australia's number one, mate, 1320 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 1: We're not number one. Kuhi is the number one. Well 1321 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:27,919 Speaker 1: Key is number one. 1322 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 2: Man Husey's buster. He's got to get a shoulder surgery. 1323 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 2: But shout out to Kieran Foran who has He's done 1324 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 2: about three retirement speeches. Now he's backcording back out of retirement. Sorry, 1325 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 2: put up a picture before in this same and he 1326 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 2: goes when your country calls you go, oh goodness. 1327 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 1: I'll read out a few names from firstly somehow and 1328 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 1: what a test match this is going to be twenty 1329 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 1: sixth of October, sun called Stadium Toma versus Somemo So 1330 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: Summer Mariatta a young guy who gets his start from 1331 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 1: the Aiders Blais to Lungey, Brian Toto, Dean Marin, Isaac Tungo, 1332 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 1: your own Lui, Josh Papal Junior Bola married to Lungey Paynehasse, 1333 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 1: Roger Toulvasushik, Simmy Sosagi tailor may teroror may That's just 1334 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: some of the names in there. 1335 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,479 Speaker 2: That's that's as good as side of smow as ever had. 1336 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 2: But not just big names, like they're all in great 1337 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 2: forms right, Like you've got those Raiders players, they've all 1338 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 2: they probably should have made a Grand Final this year. 1339 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 2: And then you've got some of those some of those 1340 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 2: like Bizer and. 1341 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 1: Have listened to this, have listened tongue and if there 1342 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 1: was a World Cup tomorrow, mate, I'd have a splash 1343 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,520 Speaker 1: on some on tong to win it. Listen with Paul Alamodi, 1344 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 1: Adam Vanila, Blake, who's skipper walled under him, Mofoda Waker, Leahalissima, 1345 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 1: Lehi Hoppawadi, Ellie Katowa, Isaiah Katowa. And the jewel the crown, 1346 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 1: the jewel in the crown, I should say, from the 1347 01:02:53,360 --> 01:03:02,800 Speaker 1: Sharky's police Cafusi Tolukla man Isaiah Yongi Well, Pini, Jason Tamalano, 1348 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:07,520 Speaker 1: Robert Toya, Daniel Tupo, Big Stefano gets to start, Dimitric 1349 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 1: Wayanger and and sorry, Dimitric Vaimonga and Siwa wog my god, 1350 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what a squat tend to think. 1351 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 2: Ham can't play because of his shoulder too like that's 1352 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 2: that would be the great that's the best forward pack, 1353 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 2: like that is one of the best forward packs. And 1354 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 2: they've always lacked creativity in the spine. But now you've 1355 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,720 Speaker 2: got young blokes like Katowa Lehi Hopwadi who were just 1356 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 2: setting the world on fire at the moment, any young 1357 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 2: as well. It's I wonder how they fit them both in. 1358 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. They've got to have him in there, 1359 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 1: but I think probably i'd say young ear be full back. 1360 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 1: I'd say LeHo go on the wing. But but Isaiahkatoa, 1361 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 1: and he's the one. Like they've Tonga have had great 1362 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 1: backs and they've had great forwards, but they've needed that 1363 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: spine to be right now, this bloke that's crazy, this 1364 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 1: bloke who is going to end up as one of 1365 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,919 Speaker 1: the greatest players of all time. He's going to wing 1366 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 1: mate with him steering the side. They are going to 1367 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 1: win a World Cup in his time there. 1368 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,480 Speaker 2: I'm exited. I'm actually very very excited to watch that 1369 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 2: tongue and somehow were playing against each other. Yep, that'd 1370 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 2: be I'll tell you right now that if people should 1371 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 2: get their tickets to that, because the atmosphere I was 1372 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 2: at that test last year where Tonga is and Australia 1373 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 2: played out of Combank and I haven't felt atmosphere like it, 1374 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 2: and that was just from the Tonguan fans. None of 1375 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 2: the Aussies were really insane anything. So Tonga and Sama 1376 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 2: are at either ends of the stadium, that'll be as 1377 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,400 Speaker 2: good as rugby league atmosphere, if not atmosphere in the 1378 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 2: world as you have ever seen. I'm that excited. I 1379 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 2: could swear and. 1380 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 1: Go on good, just do it. 1381 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 2: Go fuck yourself, mate, Dad. 1382 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,919 Speaker 1: And as I said before, mate the coup week side, 1383 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 1: it goes without yes saying it's fantastic to him. Stacey 1384 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 1: Jones too well under stage coach and the team. Finally 1385 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 1: he weld unto all the clubs, the coaches weld under 1386 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 1: all the fans. This, in my opinion, has been the 1387 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 1: greatest seasonal football I've ever seen. The players have just 1388 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 1: been outstanding. It's been just been a joy to watch 1389 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,080 Speaker 1: and makes you proud to be a rugby league men. 1390 01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,680 Speaker 5: And shout out to all our back fences, all of 1391 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 5: our back fancs who listen each week to the Backstage 1392 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 5: the Family podcast. Everything we love your your contribution does 1393 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 5: not go unnoticed. 1394 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,120 Speaker 1: And we've got some big ones coming up. We've got 1395 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 1: Jason Rowles coming up the Ryles files. 1396 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 2: We've got Dylan Walker, amongst many more guys that shrap yourself. 1397 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 1: In mate, And I'll tell you what we'll get Madge 1398 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 1: to in the next couple of weeks. You want to 1399 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 1: get Madge as well, we'll land Madge. 1400 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 2: All right, we'll see if we. 1401 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 1: We'll get him. 1402 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 4: Do't worry you, reckon. 1403 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 1: We'll get him. We'll get him. 1404 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 2: We'll get him, and if we don't, what do we do. 1405 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 1: We'll call free sacking. 1406 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:44,919 Speaker 2: If we don't, we'll turn on him and we'll start 1407 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,000 Speaker 2: bagging him just like buzz. 1408 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: We will have you good ones. Thanks jack O.