WEBVTT - Danica De Giorgio | 15 February

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<v Speaker 1>Why on Sky News Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>This is de Nika di Georgio.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello and welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming up tonight, Labour's weekend of memes, jokes and gaffes.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank goodness, the Liberal Party has sorted out its leadership woes.

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<v Speaker 4>It's time to hold this government to account. LMPMP Garth

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<v Speaker 4>Hamilton is coming up. The Prime Minister sympathizes with the

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<v Speaker 4>praying muslim men who defied a New South Wales police

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<v Speaker 4>order before being moved on. I'll chat to Alex Ripchin

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<v Speaker 4>about this latest attempt to win over the Muslim vote,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'll catch up with Reform UK's candidate for London Mayor,

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<v Speaker 4>Laila Cunningham, wants to.

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<v Speaker 3>Boot out the woke and woeful Sadiq.

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<v Speaker 4>Khan, but first tonight, whoever said diversity was our strength?

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<v Speaker 4>The Daily Telegraph is reporting fourteen children in New South

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<v Speaker 4>Wales have been subjected to suspected forced marriages in the

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<v Speaker 4>past financial year.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of these are claims of unofficial ceremonies conducted by Islamic.

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<v Speaker 3>Clerics in backyards.

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<v Speaker 4>The Sunday Telegraph has obtained exclusive data under freedom of

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<v Speaker 4>information laws. It found underaged forced marriages in New South

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<v Speaker 4>Wales reported to the Department of Communities and Justice child

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<v Speaker 4>Protection hotline between twenty twenty four to twenty five have

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<v Speaker 4>almost doubled in the past financial year. There have been

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and seventeen reports recorded since twenty eighteen nineteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Last year, fourteen children were suspected of being forced to marry,

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<v Speaker 4>up from eight the financial year prior. And yet we

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<v Speaker 4>are supposed to believe that multiculturalism is working now we

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<v Speaker 4>have imported these problems into the country. A government source

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<v Speaker 4>told the paper they were aware of some Islamic only

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<v Speaker 4>marriages conducted by Muslim celebrants, mostly in the western suburbs

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<v Speaker 4>of Sydney, which are not legally registered. They said, I

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<v Speaker 4>feel fe confident in saying that there are a small

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<v Speaker 4>number of weddings organized by a girl's family taking place

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<v Speaker 4>in parts of Sydney within hardline conservative Islamic communities.

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<v Speaker 3>There are many marriages.

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<v Speaker 4>That wouldn't come up on the government's radar because they're

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<v Speaker 4>not official marriages and they are not registered. This of

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<v Speaker 4>course makes it harder for authorities to investigate as it's

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<v Speaker 4>heavily underreported.

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<v Speaker 3>So how many more are there? And the reality is

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<v Speaker 3>we don't know, we don't know how fast spread this is.

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<v Speaker 4>These figures pertain to New South Wales, so who's to

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<v Speaker 4>say it's not happening elsewhere in the country. Now, this

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<v Speaker 4>is child abuse and many of these young girls would

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<v Speaker 4>be terrified to even speak out. And this is not new,

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<v Speaker 4>especially in Sydney. It's just gotten worse. This was in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 5>This child is just fourteen years old and is about

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<v Speaker 5>to be married to a man twenty years her senior.

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<v Speaker 5>In a tiny room hidden at the back of a

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<v Speaker 5>suburban mosque. This shy teenager, dressed in a light blue headscarf,

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<v Speaker 5>sits anxiously. She's known the man she's about to marry

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<v Speaker 5>for just a few days.

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<v Speaker 6>Send you.

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<v Speaker 5>The groom is paid for the underage girl, handing over

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<v Speaker 5>a fourteen hundred and eighty dollars gold necklace in exchange

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<v Speaker 5>for his bride. While the girl's mother watches on. She's

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<v Speaker 5>given her full blessing.

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<v Speaker 4>Now imagine how terrified that child would have been and

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<v Speaker 4>mum gives the blessing seemingly under the banner of Islam.

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<v Speaker 4>The latest AFP national data shows there were one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and eighteen reports of forced marriage in the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four to twenty five financial year in Australia. That's up

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<v Speaker 4>from ninety one reports from the previous financial year. Not

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<v Speaker 4>just in backyards, but being forcibly taken overseas to get

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<v Speaker 4>married and then come back. And once again there's a

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<v Speaker 4>common denominator in all of this immigration. If this is

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<v Speaker 4>not get another rallying cry to fix what is a

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<v Speaker 4>broken system, then I don't know what is. We cannot

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<v Speaker 4>bring people into this country whose values and cultures are incompatible.

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<v Speaker 3>With our own.

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<v Speaker 4>New Liberal leader Angus Taylor said today that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>want a discriminatory immigration policy and that goes the same

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<v Speaker 4>for successive governments.

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<v Speaker 3>That's always been the case.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that this is exactly what we need,

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<v Speaker 4>and that includes people whose cultures have sex of radical Islam.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's not being racist. It's about identifying the key threats.

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<v Speaker 4>Just last year, a Muslim cleric in Western Sydney pushed

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<v Speaker 4>for sharia law in Australia.

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<v Speaker 7>We forget that there is a studio of a lost

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<v Speaker 7>panel TLA waiting to be established. We forget that every

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<v Speaker 7>single day that we live without the studio studio of

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<v Speaker 7>a we are being dishonored. We're being belittled. The blood

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<v Speaker 7>of the Muslims have become cheap.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got a glimpse this week of Muslim men at

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<v Speaker 4>Monday's anti Israel and Anti Australia rally when they defied

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<v Speaker 4>a move on notice and got on the ground and

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<v Speaker 4>started praying. They knew exactly what they were doing, and

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<v Speaker 4>in my opinion, that was a weaponization of religion. Yet

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<v Speaker 4>Labor has kept the welcome matt firmly open. It granted

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<v Speaker 4>three thousand visitor visas to Gazans with little to no

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<v Speaker 4>security checks. It welcomed back the Isis brides, and guess

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<v Speaker 4>what the brides are back for.

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<v Speaker 3>More Isis brides.

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<v Speaker 4>Still being held in northern Syria have applied for Australian

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<v Speaker 4>passports in an effort to return home. At least ten

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<v Speaker 4>women and children who were in Syrian camps have lodged applications.

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<v Speaker 4>So clearly the g Hardy romance didn't quite turn out

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<v Speaker 4>as expected. But who are we letting in? And who

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<v Speaker 4>have we let in? And just on those reports of

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<v Speaker 4>forced Islamic marriages, I have to ask where are the

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<v Speaker 4>so called feminists, the same men hating left who champion

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<v Speaker 4>the Me Too movement?

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<v Speaker 3>Where are they now?

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<v Speaker 4>What are their thoughts on the way some Muslim men

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<v Speaker 4>treat and depress underage girls. The misogyny that exists in

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<v Speaker 4>parts of Islam is astounding. Where is our Australian of

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<v Speaker 4>the Year, Grace Tame. I mean, she's been silent on

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<v Speaker 4>the plight of Jewish women and the rape of Jewish women?

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<v Speaker 4>What about backyard marriages? Is that something she cares to

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<v Speaker 4>comment on?

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<v Speaker 3>Or is she too.

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<v Speaker 4>Busy disgracing herself from Gadagil to Gaza. The brave feminist

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<v Speaker 4>warriors love to rail all sorts of trivial nonsense, but

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<v Speaker 4>not issues like child marriage and mass rape of Jews.

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<v Speaker 4>There are reports of around eighty five Sharia councils operating

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<v Speaker 4>in Britain. Let this be a warning to us diversity

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<v Speaker 4>is not our st.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. Thank goodness, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Liberal Party has resolved its leadership woes and can get

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<v Speaker 4>back to the job of holding this labor government to account,

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<v Speaker 4>because this is who is in charge right now.

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<v Speaker 6>I think in Australian politics it's important not only that

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<v Speaker 6>you have a good government. And of course I think

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<v Speaker 6>Anthony Albanesi projects a sea of tranquility in an age

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<v Speaker 6>of uncertainty.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, sorry, what a sea of tranquility that was

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<v Speaker 4>a Trade Minister Don Farrell who clearly is all at

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<v Speaker 4>sea himself. And notice he had to look down and

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<v Speaker 4>refer to his talking points this morning just to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about his own leader. So let me summarize Labour's weekend

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<v Speaker 4>for you. Anthony Albanesi was busy playing the gender card.

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<v Speaker 8>Well.

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<v Speaker 9>I think people in the Liberal Party will despair that

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<v Speaker 9>Susan Lee did as leader of the Liberal Party just

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<v Speaker 9>months ago. It wasn't even given the opportunity to give

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<v Speaker 9>one budget reply speech.

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<v Speaker 1>It's up to the.

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<v Speaker 9>Liberal Party, of course, to defend their own internal processes.

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<v Speaker 3>But the truth is that if you.

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<v Speaker 9>Look at the government and then what some see as

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<v Speaker 9>the alternative government, my government has a majority of women

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<v Speaker 9>in our caucus.

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<v Speaker 4>Great to hear he now knows what a woman is

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<v Speaker 4>now DEI. Politics and gender ideology never bodes well, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's not what you at Homer thinking about. In the

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<v Speaker 4>middle of a cost of living crisis, and when the

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<v Speaker 4>standard of living has been crushed under labor, when bills

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<v Speaker 4>are going up and immigration is at record levels, then

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<v Speaker 4>there's the housing Minister Clare O'Neill, who was busy not

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<v Speaker 4>dealing with the housing crisis, not dealing with the fact

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<v Speaker 4>Labor has failed to achieve any of its housing targets,

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<v Speaker 4>for dealing with her fridge.

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<v Speaker 10>Did Susan Lay lose the Liberal leader ship because she's

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<v Speaker 10>a woman. When a man takes on.

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<v Speaker 2>A leadership role, authority.

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<v Speaker 10>Is immediately gifted to him. But when a woman takes

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<v Speaker 10>on a leadership role, everything's a bit different. They have

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<v Speaker 10>to earn authority and earn it again and again and again.

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<v Speaker 10>And one of the things I really noticed with Susan

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<v Speaker 10>Lay was it so many of her male colleagues they

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<v Speaker 10>just never actually accepted that she was their boss.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, firstly, I'm distracted by the open fridge. Secondly, way

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<v Speaker 4>to alienate male voters, And thirdly, Labor was always.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to make the Liberal leadership spill about gender and

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<v Speaker 3>identity politics when it knows what a woman is.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, now we know it's not about gender, it's

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<v Speaker 4>about who's best for the job. And don't forget there

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<v Speaker 4>were women within the Liberal Party ranks openly critical of

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<v Speaker 4>Susan Lee too. Just sent a Nampajipper Price, Sarah Henderson

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<v Speaker 4>and in the last few weeks new Deputy Jane Hugh.

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<v Speaker 4>And then there's Don Farrell, who has admitted that he

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't even know the rules of his own portfolio. This

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<v Speaker 4>minister is responsible for overseeing the Parliamentary Expenses watchdog, but he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not quite sure about travel entitlements.

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<v Speaker 6>I was negotiating a free trade agreement in Europe when

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<v Speaker 6>this conversation took place, and I must admit I haven't

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<v Speaker 6>caught up with the specifics of it since I got

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<v Speaker 6>back at eleven o'clock last night. But each individual, each

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<v Speaker 6>MP has to has to understand the rules and has

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<v Speaker 6>to comply with the rules. That includes me and every

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<v Speaker 6>other Member of Parliament.

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<v Speaker 4>And in another sign of just how out of touch

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<v Speaker 4>this minister is, he has suggested that his recent ninety

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars tax payer bill to fly his wife and

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<v Speaker 4>adult children around the country passes the pub test.

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<v Speaker 6>Look. I could sit on my couch the beer watching

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<v Speaker 6>the TV. I choose to go round the country and

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<v Speaker 6>around the world to promote Australia. I'd ask you to

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<v Speaker 6>have a look at my record in this regard one

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<v Speaker 6>point three trillion dollars of trade, a record trade amount.

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<v Speaker 6>Look at China twenty billion dollars worth of new trade.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, don look at me, I'm doing so much. Therefore

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<v Speaker 4>I can just justify spending all of your money, please.

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<v Speaker 4>And then finally, to cap off Labour's weekend, there's Chris Bowen,

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<v Speaker 4>who's back with the memes again. The Climate Change and

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<v Speaker 4>Energy Minister seems to think your bills going up is

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<v Speaker 4>a joke.

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<v Speaker 11>My question is to the Minister for Climate Change and Energy.

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<v Speaker 11>My question is to Minister for Climate.

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<v Speaker 12>My question is to the Minister for Climate, Minister for Climate.

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<v Speaker 3>My question is to the Minister of Climate Change and Energy.

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<v Speaker 13>Question change energy paraphrase is my favorite, Taylor. It's actually

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<v Speaker 13>sweet all the time, and you spend on me. It's

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<v Speaker 13>actually romantic. As the Speaker, I won't be thinking about

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<v Speaker 13>the National Party on Saturday, even if they're thinking about

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<v Speaker 13>me my Time's Day, because they've says it is just

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<v Speaker 13>a little bit over the top as the Speaker.

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<v Speaker 11>But I wish them all the best.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he seems to think that questions about why

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<v Speaker 4>you never saw that two hundred and seventy five dollars

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<v Speaker 4>in energy bill relief is a big laugh some sort

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<v Speaker 4>of Valentine's Day obsession. Does he think it's funny when

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<v Speaker 4>mum and dad can't pay their bills. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 4>is not a serious government, but unfortunately one which has

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<v Speaker 4>been allowed to run off the lead while the Coalition

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<v Speaker 4>and Liberal Party were in crisis. Now this is why

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<v Speaker 4>the Liberal Party can't waste any more time. A longer

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<v Speaker 4>way to change in leadership has come in Angus Taylor,

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<v Speaker 4>a conservative, and already he's foreshadowing strong policies like on immigrations.

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<v Speaker 2>Now our focus is on bringing people to this country

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<v Speaker 2>who believe in our values, who come here because they

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<v Speaker 2>know this is the greatest nation on earth. They want

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<v Speaker 2>to contribute and they want to be part of our

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<v Speaker 2>way of life. Now, if they reject our core beliefs,

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<v Speaker 2>if they reject our focus onocracy, the rule of law,

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<v Speaker 2>obeying the law, our basic freedoms, freedom of speech, freedom

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<v Speaker 2>of religion, if they reject those things, the door must

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<v Speaker 2>be shut.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a really great start, but the window of

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity is slim. The Liberal parties in the middle of

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<v Speaker 4>an identity crisis. Who is it and what does it

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<v Speaker 4>stand for? A Sky News pulse YUGAV poll put the

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<v Speaker 4>Coalition vote at a catastrophic low of nineteen percent this week,

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<v Speaker 4>as behind One Nation on twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Now this isn't just a plan.

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<v Speaker 4>To save the Liberal Party, but Angus Taylor has to

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<v Speaker 4>try and win back voters who have abandoned the party

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<v Speaker 4>for One Nation, and I've got to say credit to

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<v Speaker 4>Pauline Hanson for being the only politician to put issues

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<v Speaker 4>like immigration, like who we're bringing into the country front

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<v Speaker 4>of the agenda. In the nine months since the election,

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<v Speaker 4>Australia changed, but the Liberal Party never caught up and

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<v Speaker 4>One Nation took advantage in one No wonder Pauline Hanson

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<v Speaker 4>is the most favored politician in the country, but now

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<v Speaker 4>the Liberal Party is going to have to work with

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<v Speaker 4>her as well as the Nationals and finally we're starting

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<v Speaker 4>to see strong coalition unity.

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<v Speaker 14>So it's just some downright common sense that Angus is

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<v Speaker 14>getting back to getting back to our values as Australians,

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<v Speaker 14>pulling the leaders without having to spend more of your

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<v Speaker 14>money to solve the nation's problems. That's common sense. That's

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<v Speaker 14>what the Nationals will sign up to with the coalition

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<v Speaker 14>and I think Angus has proven that pretty strongly in

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<v Speaker 14>his first outing.

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<v Speaker 3>This moment demands more than just a leadership change. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a good start.

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<v Speaker 4>As I said, let's hope the Liberal Party does not

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<v Speaker 4>squander it again because right now Labor is taking us

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<v Speaker 4>all for fools.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's bring in.

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<v Speaker 4>LMP and p Garth Hamilton. Now, Garth, good to catch

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<v Speaker 4>up with you. Thank you so much for joining me.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's start with the Liberal leadership. Is Angus Taylor the

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<v Speaker 4>right man for the job? I know that you were

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<v Speaker 4>a big backer of Andrew Hasty and we haven't had

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<v Speaker 4>you on the show since he pulled out of the

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<v Speaker 4>leadership challenge. But are you satisfied with Friday's outcome?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh?

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<v Speaker 12>Absolutely, I'm not looking backwards for a second. I think

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<v Speaker 12>Angus has absolutely hit the right note right from the

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<v Speaker 12>get go. Australia is a place for people who want

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<v Speaker 12>to be here. What a perfectly sensible statement. If you

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<v Speaker 12>don't love it, leave it. Goodness me, I'm so grateful

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<v Speaker 12>that Angus has come out and really been clear about

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<v Speaker 12>that right from the get go. As you pointed out,

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<v Speaker 12>immigration is an issue that we really needed to deal

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<v Speaker 12>with early on in this term, and he's clearly going

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<v Speaker 12>to do.

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<v Speaker 11>That right away.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I couldn't agree more and I do think it

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<v Speaker 4>was great to hear him talking about our values and

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<v Speaker 4>saying that are people I mean his Friday, So there

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<v Speaker 4>have people who've come into this country who.

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<v Speaker 3>Hate our values and I think.

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<v Speaker 4>You know you welcome that, you welcome that sort of

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<v Speaker 4>rhetoric because it's a rhetoric we.

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<v Speaker 3>Haven't heard from for a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got to say, Garthaman, the window of opportunity is

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<v Speaker 4>quite slim. The Liberal Party needs to turn this around

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<v Speaker 4>pretty quickly. When can we start actually seeing some genuine

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<v Speaker 4>policy announcements.

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<v Speaker 12>Look, I think they will be coming very quickly, but

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<v Speaker 12>the main thing you're going to see is that bedrock

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<v Speaker 12>labe by Angus on immigration. Clearly this is a place

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<v Speaker 12>for people who want to be here. On the economy,

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<v Speaker 12>we need to be very sensible with our spending and

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<v Speaker 12>it needs to be putting Australians first. And look when

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<v Speaker 12>you see interest rates going up, this is a sign

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<v Speaker 12>that these things aren't in play. And I think Angus

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<v Speaker 12>is best placed, I really do, of anyone on our

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<v Speaker 12>side to leaders through these difficult economic times.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I mean he was also on the front

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<v Speaker 4>foot speaking about the economy today as well. Getting back

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<v Speaker 4>to those basics, he's going to be announcing his front

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<v Speaker 4>bench soon. Do you expect to get a role on

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<v Speaker 4>the Angus Taylor front bench.

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<v Speaker 12>No, I'm very happy being the Member for Groom. I'll

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<v Speaker 12>leave it to Angus to choose what he wants, Tanika.

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<v Speaker 12>I've been on your show right throughout this term, leading

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<v Speaker 12>the way on quite a few policy issues. From net

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<v Speaker 12>zero spoke about immigration policy. I've been very happy to

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<v Speaker 12>speak out and make sure that people knew the Liberal

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<v Speaker 12>Party was still in touch with Australia. Now we've got

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<v Speaker 12>Angus at the helm. I think he's going to take

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<v Speaker 12>the lead on that and that's going to be fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're not going to You're not worried if you

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<v Speaker 4>don't get a spot. You want a spot, Let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh look anyway, any politician who tells you it doesn't

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<v Speaker 12>they don't want to spot his line to here. But

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<v Speaker 12>I've learned a lot in this game. The best thing

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<v Speaker 12>you can do is do your best and leave everything

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<v Speaker 12>else to chance.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, no fair, Colin, You're right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you've been very much on the front foot

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<v Speaker 4>on so many of these issues. How do you now

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<v Speaker 4>look to claw back votes from one nation? I know

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<v Speaker 4>that Pauline Hansen was very critical even of the leadership

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<v Speaker 4>change on Friday, but clearly that there is a problem there.

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<v Speaker 4>You have been bleeding votes to one nation. What do

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<v Speaker 4>you do to win back that support.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, once we establish those clear policy foundations on the

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<v Speaker 12>things that matter to people and energy, on immigration, on

0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.000
<v Speaker 12>the economy, I think then we have to turn to

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<v Speaker 12>everyone on the right of politics, no matter where they are,

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<v Speaker 12>and say come with me. And I think Angus is

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<v Speaker 12>going to do that. He's going to tell people, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>we've got a long way to go to the election,

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<v Speaker 12>but right now we have to be a credible opposition

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<v Speaker 12>to mister Albinizi. And if you need to wear your

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<v Speaker 12>own shirt for a while, wear it for a while.

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<v Speaker 12>But on these fights we have to have with labor

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<v Speaker 12>right here, right now, come with us, and I think

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<v Speaker 12>will show that strength over time, we will show the

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<v Speaker 12>direction that we're heading in.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, look good to hear, as I said, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>great start to hear Angus Taylor really firing on all

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<v Speaker 4>fronts when it comes to those issues that I think

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of conservative voters have been tearing their hair

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<v Speaker 4>out about for so long. I want to ask you,

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<v Speaker 4>I just spoke earlier about these reports of the Daily

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<v Speaker 4>Telegraph that fourteen children in New South Wales have been

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<v Speaker 4>subjected to suspected force marriages in the past financial year.

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<v Speaker 4>These are unofficial ceremonies conducted by Islamic clerics in backyards.

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<v Speaker 4>It's up from eight to the year before Garth. My

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<v Speaker 4>argument is that we've imported this, and again, immigration is key.

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<v Speaker 4>It comes down to immigration policy. Now we'll point out

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<v Speaker 4>the majority of Muslims live peacefully in this country. But

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<v Speaker 4>I am talking about a radical sect of Islam that

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<v Speaker 4>is incompatible with our values.

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<v Speaker 3>What do we do about it?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I think we have to acknowledge it is incompatible.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm one of the few guests you'll have who has

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<v Speaker 12>lived un there Sharia law. During my time in Saudi Arabia,

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<v Speaker 12>I could have lived there very well off quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 12>but the contrast and the idea of trying to raise

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<v Speaker 12>my kids under some of these sort of laws was

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<v Speaker 12>just too much for.

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<v Speaker 11>Me to think.

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<v Speaker 12>And I came to Australia came back home. There is

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<v Speaker 12>such a difference and we have to acknowledge that. And look,

0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:30.320
<v Speaker 12>diversity of background is a wonderful thing. It's really interesting,

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<v Speaker 12>But as a nation we need unity of purpose. Unity

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<v Speaker 12>is about where we're going and it's about tomorrow. And

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<v Speaker 12>unless we have that, and I'm talking not just individually

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<v Speaker 12>but in the little groups around Australia, then we will

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<v Speaker 12>never be our full potential.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's it, and I do agree.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it comes down to a lot of acknowledgment

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<v Speaker 4>that we have brought some people in whose values are

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<v Speaker 4>incompatible with the Western democracy in particular. And you know,

0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.040
<v Speaker 4>some who hate us, some who hate our values, and

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<v Speaker 4>some who have no interest in assimilating into the this

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<v Speaker 4>great country. So you know, we have to actually raise

0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.960
<v Speaker 4>the point. We can't dance around it. That is absolutely key.

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<v Speaker 4>Just on the Isis brides, there are some still being

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<v Speaker 4>held in northern Syria. They've now applied for Australian passports.

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<v Speaker 3>In an effort to return home. We're talking Garth.

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<v Speaker 4>At least ten women and children who were in Syrian camps.

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<v Speaker 4>They've lodged applications. Look, here we go again. You know,

0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:26.720
<v Speaker 4>the Jahati romance doesn't quite work out. They want to

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<v Speaker 4>come back here to the country in which they betrayed

0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.520
<v Speaker 4>when they left here to go to the death cult.

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<v Speaker 4>What's your response to this look.

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<v Speaker 12>I have a lot of sympathy for the children. I

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<v Speaker 12>imagine they've been raised in very difficult circumstances. The truth is, however,

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<v Speaker 12>these mothers left Australia. The chose to go to join

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<v Speaker 12>an army that was fighting against people who share our values,

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<v Speaker 12>that wanted to violently fight against us. They made that choice.

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<v Speaker 12>And this isn't a choice that's compatible with living in

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<v Speaker 12>Australians society. This isn't a you can't be a a

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<v Speaker 12>member of VIIs and live down the end of the

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<v Speaker 12>street and everyone be happy about it. This is something

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<v Speaker 12>that is completely against our way of life, and they

0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:10.639
<v Speaker 12>chose that. And they've spent time sadly in these camps,

0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:16.080
<v Speaker 12>which would be an absolute hotbed of fundamentalism and all

0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.640
<v Speaker 12>the sort of things that we try to avoid when

0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:20.640
<v Speaker 12>we're looking at people who want to come to Australia.

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<v Speaker 12>So I think I don't have much sympathy in these

0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:26.800
<v Speaker 12>situations for these women. I'm sorry they've made their decision.

0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:30.600
<v Speaker 12>They chose not to be Australians, they chose not to

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<v Speaker 12>support us at a pivotal time in history, and I

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<v Speaker 12>can't see something that says why they should be back here.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I agree. I've got no sympathy for them either.

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<v Speaker 4>They knew what they were doing when they left this

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<v Speaker 4>wonderful country of ours to go and join the death cult. Sorry,

0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.880
<v Speaker 4>no sympathy on MI end either. Garth Hamilton, always nice

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<v Speaker 4>to chat with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks very much for joining me on the program. Really

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate it well.

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<v Speaker 4>Joining me now is forming New South Wales Police Minister

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<v Speaker 4>David Elliott and Verb Communications Mcsweetenhi to both of you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for joining me on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Boy. It's been a big couple of days, hasn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's of course start with.

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<v Speaker 4>The liberal leadership Angus Taylor. I think he's come out

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<v Speaker 4>firing on all fronts personally pro and I think that

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<v Speaker 4>this is exactly what conservative bases needed to hear.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 15>Absolutely, I think he's done really well. And I was

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<v Speaker 15>never a huge fan. I have to say, I don't

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<v Speaker 15>think he's a great media performer or hasn't been up

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<v Speaker 15>till now. And I was more of a hasty fan,

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<v Speaker 15>even though I know he pulled out.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think.

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<v Speaker 15>Taylor has scripped it with both hands, and this is

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<v Speaker 15>starting to say the things that we've been dying to

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<v Speaker 15>hear about immigration, about the economy, all these things that

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<v Speaker 15>have been bothering us so much that Susan didn't ever enunciate.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, we've.

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<v Speaker 15>Got this pile on from you know, the usual suspects

0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:53.680
<v Speaker 15>in labor about anti women. I mean these morons, these

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:57.480
<v Speaker 15>imbeciles in the back room who obviously think Gigley schoolboys,

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<v Speaker 15>who are just smart us, yeah, who are in self

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<v Speaker 15>team women. You know the fact that we want women

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<v Speaker 15>vote based on what the policies are. How dare you

0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:12.399
<v Speaker 15>insinuate that we vote for women because they're women, you know,

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<v Speaker 15>I mean we want policies, we want things that we

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<v Speaker 15>can relate to. And if Angus keeps going the way

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 15>he is going, I think he's as long as he

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<v Speaker 15>gets a good pick of the front bench. He needs

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<v Speaker 15>really strong performers, you know, just Center needs to be

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<v Speaker 15>their Hasty needs their Garth Hamilton.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Garth's brilliant, So there's.

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<v Speaker 15>Plenty of strong performers there if he has the medal

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<v Speaker 15>to do so.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, And I do want to talk about the whole

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:39.840
<v Speaker 4>issue of gender gender with the Liberal Party in a moment.

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<v Speaker 4>But David, we finally have an outcome it is Angus Taylor.

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<v Speaker 4>Is he the one that's going to take this party

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<v Speaker 4>forward to really have some sort of an impact at

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<v Speaker 4>the next election.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, he's going to have to.

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<v Speaker 16>I mean, obviously he's going to have a massive challenge with

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<v Speaker 16>the Pharao by election. And if the Liberal Party loses

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:01.159
<v Speaker 16>the Pharao bye election, that will put immediate pressure on

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 16>Angus Taylor. I think his first seventy two hours can

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<v Speaker 16>safely be seen as a pass. I think that he's steadied.

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 16>He steadied the ship already and that was an early

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 16>challenge for him and he's done it. I like Proue,

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<v Speaker 16>think that now it comes down to who is going

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<v Speaker 16>to surround himself with. He needs to prove that he's

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<v Speaker 16>a pluralist and he's going to have to have moderates

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<v Speaker 16>as well as sender right and his own right wing

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 16>faction in the shadow cabinet. He's going to need to

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<v Speaker 16>make sure that he keeps the nice balance between Western

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<v Speaker 16>Sydney and regional New South Wales and of course some

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 16>of the other states which are going to be key

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 16>to our victory. And quite frankly, now he has to

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<v Speaker 16>rebuild the party because the party structure has been found

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<v Speaker 16>wanting in recent times.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, we stuffed up local government last year.

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<v Speaker 16>So now it's timing to make sure he's got the

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<v Speaker 16>right party president, the right state directors across the state,

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 16>people that he trusted will give him full and frank

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 16>advice and might be playing silly factional games.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you think he'll go in Farah because obviously

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 4>one Nation they are looking to field a candidate there.

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<v Speaker 4>This is going to be a big first test of

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:06.880
<v Speaker 4>his leadership.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the state of place?

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<v Speaker 11>It will come down to the candidate.

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<v Speaker 16>I mean, he will want Justin Clancy the state, the

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 16>very popular state member who has just been elected Deputy

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:21.399
<v Speaker 16>leader under Kelly Sloane here in New South Wales. If

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.240
<v Speaker 16>Justin Clancy is the candidate, I think will hold the

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:27.360
<v Speaker 16>seat and we might even increase our majority because he's

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 16>got a very strong personal following in.

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<v Speaker 11>Some of the New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 16>If Justin doesn't run, I think that we're very vulnerable

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 16>in Farah and it will come down to how much

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<v Speaker 16>of that one nation vote we're seeing on the polls

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<v Speaker 16>translate to ballot papers.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this will be the first test and I think

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 4>all eyes will be on that. That'll be very very

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<v Speaker 4>fascinating to see if the polls are actually correct, how

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 4>one nation does and of course a big test of

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<v Speaker 4>the leadership of Angus Taylor.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about gender.

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<v Speaker 4>As I mentioned earlier, Labor's already throwing up the gender card.

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 4>I mean, oel for goodness sake, unloading her groceries and

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 4>the fridge, and you know, commenting on gender a lot

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.879
<v Speaker 4>of nonsense. But now the founder of a liberal women's

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 4>network has resigned from the organization and quit the party altogether,

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 4>two days of course, after Susan Lee was toppled. Charlotte Mortlock,

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 4>a former Sky News colleague of mine who founded Hillmer's

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 4>Network four years ago to boost female representation of the Liberals.

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<v Speaker 4>She has quit a comes a week after the party's

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 4>new South Wales branch dumped a planned vote on gender

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<v Speaker 4>quotas and improve as.

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<v Speaker 3>Charlotte Morlock had worked on the proposal with five other

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 3>Liberal women.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think you alluded to this earlier gender quotas

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 4>and that's not what the Liberal Party is based on.

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<v Speaker 15>For goodness, it isn't and it's insulting to women. This

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 15>is what annoys me so much. You've got the Labor

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 15>Party of course seizing on this because you know it's

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 15>the party of the mean girls. Let's face it, it knows

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:55.360
<v Speaker 15>how to dish dirt so well, these beautiful, cultured, gentle

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 15>women who have empathy for all the other women in town. Well,

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 15>I tell you, sis, we hate the fact that you're

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 15>a bunch of bullies, feral bullies from a school yard.

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<v Speaker 15>And you know you don't even know what a woman is.

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 15>That's the you know, what is a woman? To the

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 15>Labor Party, I put it, damn will know. So don't

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 15>talk to us, don't talk down to us as women

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.239
<v Speaker 15>and tell us that we can't possibly have empathy and

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 15>put a vote to the Liberal Party. You're a bunch

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 15>of I was going to say fight us W with

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 15>saying something with W, but I won't.

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<v Speaker 3>You all know it's a bit too early for that

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 3>for that one.

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<v Speaker 4>No, but you're right as well. It's basically saying that

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 4>a woman.

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<v Speaker 3>Cannot succeed unless there is a.

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 4>Gender quota actual and I mean the fact that the

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:43.360
<v Speaker 4>New South Wales branch, I mean your branch was even

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 4>considering gender quotas at one point.

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<v Speaker 16>It's hard to say you're the Party of merit unless you've.

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:53.919
<v Speaker 11>Got testicles right, because that's exactly what they're saying. We

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:56.919
<v Speaker 11>believe in equality here, we believe in equality there, except

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:58.679
<v Speaker 11>for gender, because we're going to run some now.

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<v Speaker 16>I try to be objective when it comes to quotas everywhere,

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 16>whether it be for age, for gender, whatever, I'm open

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 16>minded on an objective about it. However, as proven you

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 16>have already identified the biggest people, the biggest demographic opposed

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 16>to gender quotas are women with sons, because the women

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:21.439
<v Speaker 16>with sons will come to me and say, and regularly do,

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 16>I don't want a mean girl taking the opportunity that

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 16>my son has rightly worked for fair enough, and they're

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 16>they're the ones. I mean, it's funny, it's it's you know,

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 16>it's left wing men. It's moderate women who when there's

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 16>a conservative male needs to be replaced by a female.

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 16>But when there's a when there's a moderate male, doesn't

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 16>you know we should policy exactly and so, But the

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 16>great challenge for the Liberal Party was always we can't

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 16>say that we're the party of meritocracy unless, of course you're.

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 15>Talking about exactly what was arguing about Susan Lee and

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 15>the fact why because she didn't perform exactly do.

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 4>His little bit later polling, it's been an absolute disaster.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got nothing to do with genders.

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 4>It's all to do with how bad basically she didn't

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 4>have the cut through.

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 3>Nothing to do with gender.

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 4>Let's talk about the Trade Minister Don Farrell and that

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 4>quote that I played you earlier about him talking.

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 3>About the Prime Minister one of his worst.

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 4>But he's admitted that he doesn't even know the rules

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 4>of his own portfolio and yet he's the minister responsible

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 4>for overseeing the Parliamentary expenses watchdog and he's so out

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 4>of touch. He suggested that he's recent ninety thousand dollars

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 4>tax paid bill to fly his wife and adult children

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 4>around the country actually passes the pub test.

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, Don, but what planet is he living on?

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 3>What pub is he going to? That's what I want

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 3>to know.

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 15>But the thing is I had a look and apparently

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 15>these federal politicians spent between forty to sixty days away

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 15>from their families in Canberra. So he must love his

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 15>family a hell of a lot that he's got to

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 15>have them, you know, tied like an umbilical court around

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 15>his travel luggage case, because I.

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 11>Mean, he must be taking them everywhere.

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 15>There's no justification for it, and I just think it's

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 15>just a raud. They're all on it and they don't

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 15>want to criticize each other. He of courses in charge

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 15>of the mob that sets the rules, but he doesn't.

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 11>Know the rules.

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.239
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't know the rules, and we've really confused. So

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 3>he's always been a joke that blow.

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then he described Anthony Alberneezy as a man

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 4>with like a sea of tranquility where I got that

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 4>poetry from.

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 12>But that's one of his worst life.

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 4>But the fact that he said, oh, you know, look

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 4>at me upset the record.

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 3>I travel around, look at me.

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:32.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm doing deals here and there, as if it's some

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 4>sort of justification for spending this much money on entitlements.

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 16>What really infuriates me is that we have soldiers deployed

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 16>for six twelve months overseas.

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 11>Do you think their wives get a family reunion package?

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 11>Good point, So, don that's great, you spent forty days overseas.

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 16>I spent one hundred and eighty days overseas when I

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 16>was an army officer as a peacekeeper. My wife didn't

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.719
<v Speaker 16>even get a free train trip. So I think that

0:30:57.760 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 16>that is quite an insult, and I think that it

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 16>highlight to the fact that Dawn doesn't live in the

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 16>real world. Setting aside the fact that he spent his

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 16>pre parliamentary life as a Union official, we have to

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 16>remember also that he also owns a vineyard, so he's

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 16>the original Chardona socialist. However, does he allow his managers

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 16>at that vineyard to take ninety thousand dollars out of

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 16>company farms whether they can go to Okay, he doesn't,

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 16>I can guarantee. I don't know for a fact, but

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 16>I will put the kids on. He doesn't know now

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 16>behave the way that he is as a minister, and

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 16>so I do I do find I mean, I think

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 16>in twelve years in parliament, I used my family and

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:39.239
<v Speaker 16>travel vouchers. Wants to fly my wife to Canberra to

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 16>meet Prince William once in twelve years and it cost

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 16>about two hundred dollars.

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 3>It's a big difference two hundred dollars versus.

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 16>And I help why it should be there, because sometimes

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 16>there is an expectation on families to do stuff.

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 11>But ninety thousand dollars. Yes, I drink at a lot

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 11>of pubs.

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to the exactly, yeah, and you could be

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 4>there with the sea of tranquilities. We actually this leads

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 4>really nicely. We're all mass out of time, but I

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 4>want to ask you about this. Ahead of the seventy

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 4>fifth anniversary of the introduction of the National.

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Service Conscription Conscription Scheme, there are calls.

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 4>To bring it back to shape a new generation of

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 4>young ossies.

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 3>This is David Webster. He fought in Vietnam.

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 4>He's told the Australian it made him the man. He

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 4>became a one star general in the Australian Army, a husband, father,

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 4>granddad in the security of his home life. He believes

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 4>that this controversial program was the best thing that ever

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 4>happened to him, and of course his calls echo that

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 4>of former Prime Minister Tony Abbott. David, I'll start with you,

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 4>as somebody who has served.

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Do we bring it back?

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 11>I'm not a fan. First of all, it's very very

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 11>cost prohibitive.

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 16>Secondly, you have professional soldiers having a babysit, people that

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 16>don't want to be there.

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 11>However, there is an opportunity for us.

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 16>To expand a whole lot of programs that are out there.

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 16>My personal view, expand the gap year program that encourages

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 16>kids to go from school, have a year in the army,

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 16>and then maybe say to them, right, if you stay

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 16>on as an active reservist, we'll cover your hexstead.

0:32:57.880 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 11>If you stay on.

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 16>As an active reservist, well then we'll continue that tax

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 16>free pay that you've acquired. But I was actually having

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 16>lunch today with two very senior form military officers, and

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 16>nobody wants to turn the army into a dumping ground

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 16>for the crap of society, because that's what's going to happen.

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 11>We get a job, you're going to go together the end.

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 15>But whether it is the crap or you know, job seek,

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 15>one hundred thousand people between sixteen and twenty who are

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 15>on the public teeth, why couldn't we at least train

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 15>them and okay, set up another get some people like

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 15>you retirees and I wouldn't doub you in, but people

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:38.239
<v Speaker 15>who've been in the army or navy or whatever, and

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 15>train them because it will teach them self respect, give

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 15>them massfiction, teamwork, all the things that.

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 3>Are so important.

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 4>Well, and I personally think that we should send the

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 4>repeat offenders, the repeat juvenile offenders go go love you

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 4>give a bit of time from the army and let's

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 4>see if they.

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<v Speaker 3>Repeat offend again. Great to have you both on great

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:59.479
<v Speaker 3>discussion day. Thanks Promixtween. Thank you very much for joining me.

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<v Speaker 4>After the break that Prime Minister sympathizes with the praying

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 4>muslim men who de fighted a new South Wales police

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 4>order before being moved on, I'll chat to Alex Ripchin

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:11.280
<v Speaker 4>about this latest attempt to win over the Muslim vote.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back will Australia descended into a farce over the

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 4>past week, not even two months after the Bondi massacre,

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:26.280
<v Speaker 4>we saw those dreadful scenes in Sydney where protesters attacked

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 4>police angry about the visit of Israeli President Isaac Herzog.

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<v Speaker 4>In Melbourne, the CBD was also hijacked by the anti Israel,

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 4>anti Australia mob. Death to Herzog was graffited at the

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 4>University of Melbourne and protesters even held signs.

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<v Speaker 3>Which read abolish Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>Joining me now is Executive Council of Australian Jury co

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<v Speaker 4>CEO Alex Ripchin. Alex, thank you so much for your time.

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<v Speaker 4>As always, is this not the type of behavior that

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<v Speaker 4>the Bondai massacre taught us was so dangerous.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, this is That's what we've seen for two and

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<v Speaker 17>a half years, and we know that the genesis of

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 17>the horrific terrorist attack that devastated my community was the

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:12.240
<v Speaker 17>incitement on the streets of Sydney, these rabid street protests

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 17>which have defamed and dehumanized Jewish Australians consistently weak in

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 17>week out. We know that it didn't begin with a

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 17>terror attack. It ended with a terror attack, and so

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 17>to see it continuing even after the attack, it's disgusting,

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 17>it's shameful, it's depressing in a way. But no one

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:30.919
<v Speaker 17>is really surprised by this because we know we're dealing

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 17>with a fanatical movement that, as they displayed there with

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 17>their signs and graffiti, hate Israel. It's not about policies,

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 17>it's about wishing to see the destruction of the state.

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 17>It's about hating this country and wanting to wipe away

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 17>the democracy and the freedoms that we all hold deer

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 17>in this country. So there's no surprise here. But ultimately,

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 17>even their extremism, even their provocations, couldn't dampen a brilliant

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 17>trip by the President. I think it achieved everything that

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 17>he sought to do. It comforted the community, It recalibrated

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.360
<v Speaker 17>the relationship between the two countries. We look forward to

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 17>better days ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Look absolutely, and you know it was so worthwhile having

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 4>him here to go to Bondi and to visit people,

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 4>to speak to the grieving community. I mean, it was

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 4>just so important to have his presence here in Australia.

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 4>I want to ask you about this because we saw

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 4>in Sydney, of course, that deliberate active defiance when Muslim

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 4>men began praying as they were given an order to

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.879
<v Speaker 4>move on. And it happened again in Melbourne this weekkend

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 4>have a look at this, okay, and but once again

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 4>the Prime Minister has shown that he does not have

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.359
<v Speaker 4>the interests of Australian Australians at heart.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a look.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm very empathetic about the hurt that's being felt by

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.720
<v Speaker 9>the Muslim community of prayers being disrupted.

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<v Speaker 5>You so you concern specifically around that element.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that is an issue that needs addressing because

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 9>I think people need to have a right to practice

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 9>their faith in peace. And you know some of the footage,

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 9>of course, you need to be careful about footage because

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 9>you don't get to see the full picture.

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, and that was what happened in Melbourne. We've got

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 3>the audio on that.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you say to what the Prime Minister said,

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we saw these deliberate acts of defiancy. I

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 4>think it was weaponizing religion, saying well, we were praying,

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 4>but they're in the middle of a police order to

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 4>move on. What do you make of the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 4>going into.

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<v Speaker 17>Bat Look, firstly, I think it's dangerous to preempt any investigation,

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 17>and there's a lot of social media footage usually posted

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 17>for a particular purpose to drive an agenda, and I

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 17>think that needs to be looked at very carefully and

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:08.720
<v Speaker 17>investigated to see how this transpired. But on the face

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<v Speaker 17>of it, no one would dispute the right of free

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 17>prayer and the right to assemble and practice one's faith

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.479
<v Speaker 17>in this country. As a person of faith myself, that's

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:21.799
<v Speaker 17>to me something sacred. But prayer is a solemn, personal,

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 17>deeply private app that is done in a particular time,

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 17>in a particular place. And I think that the scenes

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:31.320
<v Speaker 17>that we saw by the town hall in a protest area,

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 17>in an extremely tense environment which police were doing their

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 17>best to de escalate. Was it essential to pray in

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 17>that spot at that time? Couldn't have been done ten

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 17>meters down the road, outside the protest zone, outside the

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 17>presence of the police. It looks very much like an

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 17>orchestrated stunt to create animosity, to drive further division in

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:52.760
<v Speaker 17>the community, to further demonize the police and somehow depict

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:56.280
<v Speaker 17>them as being uniformly Islamophobic. You know, there were people

0:38:56.320 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 17>online far left commentators referring to these images as the

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 17>Rodney King moment in Australia. They wanted to be that

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 17>the Rodney King moment in LA led to days of horrific, violent, deadly, rioting, destruction,

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:12.800
<v Speaker 17>really destroying that city, and they want to see the

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 17>same thing replicated here. So to me, it looks like

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 17>a stunt, and I think it needs to be separated

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 17>out from the right of prayer, which is sacred in

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 17>which no reasonable person would question. But that is something different.

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 17>No rights are unlimited. No one has the right to

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 17>pray in public in an area that the police are

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 17>trying to clear for their own safety.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I couldn't agree more with you, absolutely spot on,

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 4>And you know, obviously there's going to be an investigation

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:39.880
<v Speaker 4>now but still there was a move on notice in place,

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 4>and that's what we have to keep in mind.

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.240
<v Speaker 3>I just want to ask you about this very interesting.

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 4>Investigation in the Australian inside the Palestine Action Group, and

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 4>I've got to say the findings of this are quite concerning.

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 4>The pro Palestine protesters who orchestrated this week's violent Sydney rally,

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 4>gloated about Israel's humiliation hours after October seven, and started

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 4>organizing demonstrations while terrorists were still slaughtering civilians in their homes.

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 3>It says.

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 4>What is less clear about the Palestine Action Group is

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:08.800
<v Speaker 4>who else is behind it, the source of its funding,

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 4>and how entwined it is with the disparate groups that

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 4>have joined its protesters. I mean, Alex we've seen people

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 4>like Josh Lee's for example, but when you hear that

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 4>in the Australian, how concerning is the depths of the hate.

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 4>This goes beyond justin anti Israel protest.

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<v Speaker 17>Again, we've seen this in plain sight for so long now,

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:34.280
<v Speaker 17>and as October seven was unfolding, and the Jewish community

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 17>and all decent human individuals in this country, around the world,

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 17>we're looking on mortified, fearful, anxious at the scenes of

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 17>women being dragged off by the heron to captivity, families

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.879
<v Speaker 17>bound together and burned alive, to one hundred and fifty

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 17>people dragged into captivity as Palestinian civilians paraded in the

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 17>streets and beat their bodies and cursed them. We all

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 17>felt this extreme fear and terror and anxiety at that time.

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 17>But the Palatine Action Group in josh Please put in

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 17>a form one notice to organize a protest, and it

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 17>wasn't to show sympathy for those people these are supposedly

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 17>peace activists. It was to revel in it. It was

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 17>to refer to this as the humiliation of Israel, and

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:15.279
<v Speaker 17>any notion that these people are peace activists just evaporated

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 17>on that day. These people yearn for war, they want war.

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 17>They cheer on Iranian rockets and hoodie drones and Hummas

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.839
<v Speaker 17>terror operations. They simply want Israel to lose in this war.

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 17>That's why they were so opposed to a ceasefire when

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 17>it happened, and they kept protesting afterwards. So you know,

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 17>sections of the press and society and the political class

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:38.439
<v Speaker 17>seek to rehabilitate these people as being peace activists. They're

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 17>anything but and anyone who's actually paying attention and wants

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 17>to see them for what they are, they don't even

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 17>disguise it. It's so evident, it's so apparent. Look at

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:47.799
<v Speaker 17>their posters, look at the timing of their rallies, look

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:50.879
<v Speaker 17>at what they say and do these are anti democratic,

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 17>anti Western, anti Australian, anti Israel and certainly anti peace.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, absolutely they don't want peace, and that they keep

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 4>coming back for more. And you know there's already some

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 4>sort of level of peace right now in this war,

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:06.720
<v Speaker 4>but back home they don't want this. Alex Ripchen, always

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 4>great to have your insights. Thank you very much for

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 4>joining me on the show. Really appreciate it. Coming up

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:14.360
<v Speaker 4>after the break, a deep dive into One Nation's rise.

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Kevin Donnelly will give me his take next Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 15>Well.

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 4>I spoke earlier about One Nation leader Pauline Hansen's favorability rating.

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 4>Author and culture critic Kevin Donnelly has written a very

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 4>interesting article online called wake Up to Woke, It's Time Australia.

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 4>In it, he writes, the surge of support for One

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 4>Nation is further evidence, if one was needed, that Australian

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 4>society is undergoing significant cultural change as millions of Australians

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:47.760
<v Speaker 4>seek an alternative to self seeking political parties that ignore

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 4>the will of the people. And Kevin joins me now, Kevin,

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 4>good to see you. What's changed in your views?

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<v Speaker 1>An expression, Benika, the culture is upstream of politics. And

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>what that means is politicians, the media. They all talk

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 1>about politics every day, every week, you know whether there's

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 1>a new leader or what the policies are. But what

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:14.799
<v Speaker 1>we have to understand and we need to take a

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>longer term view, is that culture is upstream of politics.

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 1>So when you look at Australian society, if you're compare

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:27.240
<v Speaker 1>to what we were like under the time Robert Menzies

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 1>was Prime Minister, that was a very conservative time. It

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 1>was after the war, after the depression. People were more

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 1>attuned to patriotism, to being part of society where there

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:43.839
<v Speaker 1>were conservative values. As I said, if you look at

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 1>GoF Whitlam, there was a radical change. You remember his

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 1>slogan it's time it was all about when he got

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:57.399
<v Speaker 1>into government, quite radical change in terms of gender, homosexuality policies,

0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 1>the pill, Vietnam moratorians. Now, what's happened over the last

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:07.880
<v Speaker 1>ten twenty years is that the major political parties have

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:13.240
<v Speaker 1>not realized that culture has changed. A lot of mainstream voters.

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:17.959
<v Speaker 1>They want continuity, they don't want radical change. They want

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 1>a focus on family, community and pride in being Australian

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's all fundamentally changed. And liberal parties, the Liberal

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Party and the Labor Party are responsible for that, and

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:33.799
<v Speaker 1>that's why people are flocking for One Nation.

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 3>And I mean I spoke about this earlier too.

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:38.279
<v Speaker 4>I feel even just in the last few months, even

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:41.440
<v Speaker 4>since Bondi Australia change, it was a pivotal moment, but

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:43.840
<v Speaker 4>the Liberal Party never caught up. And I think that

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 4>One Nation has absolutely capitalized on this when it comes

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 4>to you know, issues like immigration, people who are bringing

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 4>in you also, and I found this point interesting too.

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 4>You write about conservatism in a modern world.

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 3>And that's a really good question.

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 4>We're having this debate now about what the Liberal Party

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 4>looks like, what does it stand for?

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 3>So what does it mean to be conservative now?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I have to be careful, Veneka, and I've been

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 1>attacked for being male, pale and stale, and a lot

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 1>of people don't like talking about the past. I mean

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 1>ts Eliott, the English poet said it very well. We

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:27.840
<v Speaker 1>want continuity as well as change. We need to respect

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 1>our past institutions, way of life. We are a Western

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:36.840
<v Speaker 1>liberal democracy that didn't happen by accident, or didn't happen overnight.

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 1>It goes back to federation. In Australia, it goes back

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to and I often talk about seventeen eighty eight, the

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 1>arrival of the first fleet. Two of the books that

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:52.720
<v Speaker 1>arrived were the King James Bible and Blaxton's Laws of England.

0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>And what that meant is at the new colony. Eventually

0:45:56.200 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Australia we inherited that cold more broadly, our political, our legal,

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:08.360
<v Speaker 1>our religious from United Kingdom and from Europe, that Western

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:13.719
<v Speaker 1>liberal democracy and Christianity. So we time escape that. Now

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 1>it does change, it does evolve. Edmund Burke many consider

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the father of conservatism. He understood that you need to

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 1>have change. But what he argued, and he was talking

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 1>about the French Revolution at the time, you want evolution,

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:32.719
<v Speaker 1>you don't want revolution. And you only have to look

0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 1>at what's happening to a lot of young people with

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the gender and transgenderism debate to see the problem you

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 1>have when you jump into a new policy without thinking

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:45.240
<v Speaker 1>of the consequences.

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 3>That's a really good point.

0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 4>We've got less than a minute left, but just very

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 4>quickly is political correctness killing politics again?

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:57.919
<v Speaker 1>You know I've written about political correctness, about being wote ideology.

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>What we have to be aware and politicians need to

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 1>be aware that the way societies change has to be understood.

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 1>And the reality is many years ago it happened with

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:16.399
<v Speaker 1>German radical really duce. He argued in the West that

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:20.359
<v Speaker 1>the Barrack people will never storm the barricades. So if

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you want to radical change, if you want cultural Marxism,

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 1>you take the long march through the institutions. And what

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Paul Enhanson has realized is that she has to focus

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:38.400
<v Speaker 1>as people want, on family, community, nation, more conservative values.

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 4>Yes, you're absolutely a spot on, a fascinating analysis and yep,

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<v Speaker 4>so true to what's going on right now. Kevin Donnelly

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<v Speaker 4>got to leave it there. Good to see. Thanks very

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<v Speaker 4>much for joining me, stay with me. Coming up, Denik

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<v Speaker 4>has done of the week.

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<v Speaker 3>That's next. Welcome back time Now for Denika's.

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<v Speaker 4>Dud of the Week, which goes to Ali Andrea Acazio Cortez. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>this week, the Democrat representative was Ben touted as the

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<v Speaker 4>party's next big thing when it comes to foreign policy.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, she was going to go onto the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Stage in Munich and impress everyone, impress the Democrats for

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<v Speaker 4>a run at twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here is her take on foreign policy.

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<v Speaker 10>Would and should the US actually commit US troops to

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<v Speaker 10>defend Taiwan if China were to move.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I think that.

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<v Speaker 8>This is such a you know, I think that.

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<v Speaker 12>This is a.

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<v Speaker 8>This is of course, a very long standing policy of

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<v Speaker 8>the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>The wheels are ticking, but there's nobody home. And I've

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<v Speaker 4>got to say that she may even make Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 4>look coherent. And gee, that's saying something. If that's the

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<v Speaker 4>best the Democrats have got, very much, so good luck.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that is it from me. I'll be back Friday

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<v Speaker 4>at eight pm for Opinionated.

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<v Speaker 3>Up next is the McPherson Angele. Goodnight,