Speaker 1: Why on Sky News Australia.
Speaker 2: This is de Nika di Georgio.
Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, Labour's weekend of memes, jokes and gaffes.
Speaker 4: Thank goodness, the Liberal Party has sorted out its leadership woes.
Speaker 4: It's time to hold this government to account. LMPMP Garth
Speaker 4: Hamilton is coming up. The Prime Minister sympathizes with the
Speaker 4: praying muslim men who defied a New South Wales police
Speaker 4: order before being moved on. I'll chat to Alex Ripchin
Speaker 4: about this latest attempt to win over the Muslim vote,
Speaker 4: and I'll catch up with Reform UK's candidate for London Mayor,
Speaker 4: Laila Cunningham, wants to.
Speaker 3: Boot out the woke and woeful Sadiq.
Speaker 4: Khan, but first tonight, whoever said diversity was our strength?
Speaker 4: The Daily Telegraph is reporting fourteen children in New South
Speaker 4: Wales have been subjected to suspected forced marriages in the
Speaker 4: past financial year.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Some of these are claims of unofficial ceremonies conducted by Islamic.
Speaker 3: Clerics in backyards.
Speaker 4: The Sunday Telegraph has obtained exclusive data under freedom of
Speaker 4: information laws. It found underaged forced marriages in New South
Speaker 4: Wales reported to the Department of Communities and Justice child
Speaker 4: Protection hotline between twenty twenty four to twenty five have
Speaker 4: almost doubled in the past financial year. There have been
Speaker 4: one hundred and seventeen reports recorded since twenty eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 4: Last year, fourteen children were suspected of being forced to marry,
Speaker 4: up from eight the financial year prior. And yet we
Speaker 4: are supposed to believe that multiculturalism is working now we
Speaker 4: have imported these problems into the country. A government source
Speaker 4: told the paper they were aware of some Islamic only
Speaker 4: marriages conducted by Muslim celebrants, mostly in the western suburbs
Speaker 4: of Sydney, which are not legally registered. They said, I
Speaker 4: feel fe confident in saying that there are a small
Speaker 4: number of weddings organized by a girl's family taking place
Speaker 4: in parts of Sydney within hardline conservative Islamic communities.
Speaker 3: There are many marriages.
Speaker 4: That wouldn't come up on the government's radar because they're
Speaker 4: not official marriages and they are not registered. This of
Speaker 4: course makes it harder for authorities to investigate as it's
Speaker 4: heavily underreported.
Speaker 3: So how many more are there? And the reality is
Speaker 3: we don't know, we don't know how fast spread this is.
Speaker 4: These figures pertain to New South Wales, so who's to
Speaker 4: say it's not happening elsewhere in the country. Now, this
Speaker 4: is child abuse and many of these young girls would
Speaker 4: be terrified to even speak out. And this is not new,
Speaker 4: especially in Sydney. It's just gotten worse. This was in
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen.
Speaker 5: This child is just fourteen years old and is about
Speaker 5: to be married to a man twenty years her senior.
Speaker 5: In a tiny room hidden at the back of a
Speaker 5: suburban mosque. This shy teenager, dressed in a light blue headscarf,
Speaker 5: sits anxiously. She's known the man she's about to marry
Speaker 5: for just a few days.
Speaker 6: Send you.
Speaker 5: The groom is paid for the underage girl, handing over
Speaker 5: a fourteen hundred and eighty dollars gold necklace in exchange
Speaker 5: for his bride. While the girl's mother watches on. She's
Speaker 5: given her full blessing.
Speaker 4: Now imagine how terrified that child would have been and
Speaker 4: mum gives the blessing seemingly under the banner of Islam.
Speaker 4: The latest AFP national data shows there were one hundred
Speaker 4: and eighteen reports of forced marriage in the twenty twenty
Speaker 4: four to twenty five financial year in Australia. That's up
Speaker 4: from ninety one reports from the previous financial year. Not
Speaker 4: just in backyards, but being forcibly taken overseas to get
Speaker 4: married and then come back. And once again there's a
Speaker 4: common denominator in all of this immigration. If this is
Speaker 4: not get another rallying cry to fix what is a
Speaker 4: broken system, then I don't know what is. We cannot
Speaker 4: bring people into this country whose values and cultures are incompatible.
Speaker 3: With our own.
Speaker 4: New Liberal leader Angus Taylor said today that he doesn't
Speaker 4: want a discriminatory immigration policy and that goes the same
Speaker 4: for successive governments.
Speaker 3: That's always been the case.
Speaker 4: But I think that this is exactly what we need,
Speaker 4: and that includes people whose cultures have sex of radical Islam.
Speaker 4: And that's not being racist. It's about identifying the key threats.
Speaker 4: Just last year, a Muslim cleric in Western Sydney pushed
Speaker 4: for sharia law in Australia.
Speaker 7: We forget that there is a studio of a lost
Speaker 7: panel TLA waiting to be established. We forget that every
Speaker 7: single day that we live without the studio studio of
Speaker 7: a we are being dishonored. We're being belittled. The blood
Speaker 7: of the Muslims have become cheap.
Speaker 4: We've got a glimpse this week of Muslim men at
Speaker 4: Monday's anti Israel and Anti Australia rally when they defied
Speaker 4: a move on notice and got on the ground and
Speaker 4: started praying. They knew exactly what they were doing, and
Speaker 4: in my opinion, that was a weaponization of religion. Yet
Speaker 4: Labor has kept the welcome matt firmly open. It granted
Speaker 4: three thousand visitor visas to Gazans with little to no
Speaker 4: security checks. It welcomed back the Isis brides, and guess
Speaker 4: what the brides are back for.
Speaker 3: More Isis brides.
Speaker 4: Still being held in northern Syria have applied for Australian
Speaker 4: passports in an effort to return home. At least ten
Speaker 4: women and children who were in Syrian camps have lodged applications.
Speaker 4: So clearly the g Hardy romance didn't quite turn out
Speaker 4: as expected. But who are we letting in? And who
Speaker 4: have we let in? And just on those reports of
Speaker 4: forced Islamic marriages, I have to ask where are the
Speaker 4: so called feminists, the same men hating left who champion
Speaker 4: the Me Too movement?
Speaker 3: Where are they now?
Speaker 4: What are their thoughts on the way some Muslim men
Speaker 4: treat and depress underage girls. The misogyny that exists in
Speaker 4: parts of Islam is astounding. Where is our Australian of
Speaker 4: the Year, Grace Tame. I mean, she's been silent on
Speaker 4: the plight of Jewish women and the rape of Jewish women?
Speaker 4: What about backyard marriages? Is that something she cares to
Speaker 4: comment on?
Speaker 3: Or is she too.
Speaker 4: Busy disgracing herself from Gadagil to Gaza. The brave feminist
Speaker 4: warriors love to rail all sorts of trivial nonsense, but
Speaker 4: not issues like child marriage and mass rape of Jews.
Speaker 4: There are reports of around eighty five Sharia councils operating
Speaker 4: in Britain. Let this be a warning to us diversity
Speaker 4: is not our st.
Speaker 3: Well. Thank goodness, the.
Speaker 4: Liberal Party has resolved its leadership woes and can get
Speaker 4: back to the job of holding this labor government to account,
Speaker 4: because this is who is in charge right now.
Speaker 6: I think in Australian politics it's important not only that
Speaker 6: you have a good government. And of course I think
Speaker 6: Anthony Albanesi projects a sea of tranquility in an age
Speaker 6: of uncertainty.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, sorry, what a sea of tranquility that was
Speaker 4: a Trade Minister Don Farrell who clearly is all at
Speaker 4: sea himself. And notice he had to look down and
Speaker 4: refer to his talking points this morning just to talk
Speaker 4: about his own leader. So let me summarize Labour's weekend
Speaker 4: for you. Anthony Albanesi was busy playing the gender card.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 9: I think people in the Liberal Party will despair that
Speaker 9: Susan Lee did as leader of the Liberal Party just
Speaker 9: months ago. It wasn't even given the opportunity to give
Speaker 9: one budget reply speech.
Speaker 1: It's up to the.
Speaker 9: Liberal Party, of course, to defend their own internal processes.
Speaker 3: But the truth is that if you.
Speaker 9: Look at the government and then what some see as
Speaker 9: the alternative government, my government has a majority of women
Speaker 9: in our caucus.
Speaker 4: Great to hear he now knows what a woman is
Speaker 4: now DEI. Politics and gender ideology never bodes well, and
Speaker 4: it's not what you at Homer thinking about. In the
Speaker 4: middle of a cost of living crisis, and when the
Speaker 4: standard of living has been crushed under labor, when bills
Speaker 4: are going up and immigration is at record levels, then
Speaker 4: there's the housing Minister Clare O'Neill, who was busy not
Speaker 4: dealing with the housing crisis, not dealing with the fact
Speaker 4: Labor has failed to achieve any of its housing targets,
Speaker 4: for dealing with her fridge.
Speaker 10: Did Susan Lay lose the Liberal leader ship because she's
Speaker 10: a woman. When a man takes on.
Speaker 2: A leadership role, authority.
Speaker 10: Is immediately gifted to him. But when a woman takes
Speaker 10: on a leadership role, everything's a bit different. They have
Speaker 10: to earn authority and earn it again and again and again.
Speaker 10: And one of the things I really noticed with Susan
Speaker 10: Lay was it so many of her male colleagues they
Speaker 10: just never actually accepted that she was their boss.
Speaker 4: Well, firstly, I'm distracted by the open fridge. Secondly, way
Speaker 4: to alienate male voters, And thirdly, Labor was always.
Speaker 3: Going to make the Liberal leadership spill about gender and
Speaker 3: identity politics when it knows what a woman is.
Speaker 4: Of course, now we know it's not about gender, it's
Speaker 4: about who's best for the job. And don't forget there
Speaker 4: were women within the Liberal Party ranks openly critical of
Speaker 4: Susan Lee too. Just sent a Nampajipper Price, Sarah Henderson
Speaker 4: and in the last few weeks new Deputy Jane Hugh.
Speaker 4: And then there's Don Farrell, who has admitted that he
Speaker 4: doesn't even know the rules of his own portfolio. This
Speaker 4: minister is responsible for overseeing the Parliamentary Expenses watchdog, but he's.
Speaker 3: Not quite sure about travel entitlements.
Speaker 6: I was negotiating a free trade agreement in Europe when
Speaker 6: this conversation took place, and I must admit I haven't
Speaker 6: caught up with the specifics of it since I got
Speaker 6: back at eleven o'clock last night. But each individual, each
Speaker 6: MP has to has to understand the rules and has
Speaker 6: to comply with the rules. That includes me and every
Speaker 6: other Member of Parliament.
Speaker 4: And in another sign of just how out of touch
Speaker 4: this minister is, he has suggested that his recent ninety
Speaker 4: thousand dollars tax payer bill to fly his wife and
Speaker 4: adult children around the country passes the pub test.
Speaker 6: Look. I could sit on my couch the beer watching
Speaker 6: the TV. I choose to go round the country and
Speaker 6: around the world to promote Australia. I'd ask you to
Speaker 6: have a look at my record in this regard one
Speaker 6: point three trillion dollars of trade, a record trade amount.
Speaker 6: Look at China twenty billion dollars worth of new trade.
Speaker 4: Wow, don look at me, I'm doing so much. Therefore
Speaker 4: I can just justify spending all of your money, please.
Speaker 4: And then finally, to cap off Labour's weekend, there's Chris Bowen,
Speaker 4: who's back with the memes again. The Climate Change and
Speaker 4: Energy Minister seems to think your bills going up is
Speaker 4: a joke.
Speaker 11: My question is to the Minister for Climate Change and Energy.
Speaker 11: My question is to Minister for Climate.
Speaker 12: My question is to the Minister for Climate, Minister for Climate.
Speaker 3: My question is to the Minister of Climate Change and Energy.
Speaker 13: Question change energy paraphrase is my favorite, Taylor. It's actually
Speaker 13: sweet all the time, and you spend on me. It's
Speaker 13: actually romantic. As the Speaker, I won't be thinking about
Speaker 13: the National Party on Saturday, even if they're thinking about
Speaker 13: me my Time's Day, because they've says it is just
Speaker 13: a little bit over the top as the Speaker.
Speaker 11: But I wish them all the best.
Speaker 4: I mean, he seems to think that questions about why
Speaker 4: you never saw that two hundred and seventy five dollars
Speaker 4: in energy bill relief is a big laugh some sort
Speaker 4: of Valentine's Day obsession. Does he think it's funny when
Speaker 4: mum and dad can't pay their bills. I mean, this
Speaker 4: is not a serious government, but unfortunately one which has
Speaker 4: been allowed to run off the lead while the Coalition
Speaker 4: and Liberal Party were in crisis. Now this is why
Speaker 4: the Liberal Party can't waste any more time. A longer
Speaker 4: way to change in leadership has come in Angus Taylor,
Speaker 4: a conservative, and already he's foreshadowing strong policies like on immigrations.
Speaker 2: Now our focus is on bringing people to this country
Speaker 2: who believe in our values, who come here because they
Speaker 2: know this is the greatest nation on earth. They want
Speaker 2: to contribute and they want to be part of our
Speaker 2: way of life. Now, if they reject our core beliefs,
Speaker 2: if they reject our focus onocracy, the rule of law,
Speaker 2: obeying the law, our basic freedoms, freedom of speech, freedom
Speaker 2: of religion, if they reject those things, the door must
Speaker 2: be shut.
Speaker 4: This is a really great start, but the window of
Speaker 4: opportunity is slim. The Liberal parties in the middle of
Speaker 4: an identity crisis. Who is it and what does it
Speaker 4: stand for? A Sky News pulse YUGAV poll put the
Speaker 4: Coalition vote at a catastrophic low of nineteen percent this week,
Speaker 4: as behind One Nation on twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Now this isn't just a plan.
Speaker 4: To save the Liberal Party, but Angus Taylor has to
Speaker 4: try and win back voters who have abandoned the party
Speaker 4: for One Nation, and I've got to say credit to
Speaker 4: Pauline Hanson for being the only politician to put issues
Speaker 4: like immigration, like who we're bringing into the country front
Speaker 4: of the agenda. In the nine months since the election,
Speaker 4: Australia changed, but the Liberal Party never caught up and
Speaker 4: One Nation took advantage in one No wonder Pauline Hanson
Speaker 4: is the most favored politician in the country, but now
Speaker 4: the Liberal Party is going to have to work with
Speaker 4: her as well as the Nationals and finally we're starting
Speaker 4: to see strong coalition unity.
Speaker 14: So it's just some downright common sense that Angus is
Speaker 14: getting back to getting back to our values as Australians,
Speaker 14: pulling the leaders without having to spend more of your
Speaker 14: money to solve the nation's problems. That's common sense. That's
Speaker 14: what the Nationals will sign up to with the coalition
Speaker 14: and I think Angus has proven that pretty strongly in
Speaker 14: his first outing.
Speaker 3: This moment demands more than just a leadership change. It's
Speaker 3: a good start.
Speaker 4: As I said, let's hope the Liberal Party does not
Speaker 4: squander it again because right now Labor is taking us
Speaker 4: all for fools.
Speaker 3: Let's bring in.
Speaker 4: LMP and p Garth Hamilton. Now, Garth, good to catch
Speaker 4: up with you. Thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 4: Let's start with the Liberal leadership. Is Angus Taylor the
Speaker 4: right man for the job? I know that you were
Speaker 4: a big backer of Andrew Hasty and we haven't had
Speaker 4: you on the show since he pulled out of the
Speaker 4: leadership challenge. But are you satisfied with Friday's outcome?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 12: Absolutely, I'm not looking backwards for a second. I think
Speaker 12: Angus has absolutely hit the right note right from the
Speaker 12: get go. Australia is a place for people who want
Speaker 12: to be here. What a perfectly sensible statement. If you
Speaker 12: don't love it, leave it. Goodness me, I'm so grateful
Speaker 12: that Angus has come out and really been clear about
Speaker 12: that right from the get go. As you pointed out,
Speaker 12: immigration is an issue that we really needed to deal
Speaker 12: with early on in this term, and he's clearly going
Speaker 12: to do.
Speaker 11: That right away.
Speaker 4: Look, I couldn't agree more and I do think it
Speaker 4: was great to hear him talking about our values and
Speaker 4: saying that are people I mean his Friday, So there
Speaker 4: have people who've come into this country who.
Speaker 3: Hate our values and I think.
Speaker 4: You know you welcome that, you welcome that sort of
Speaker 4: rhetoric because it's a rhetoric we.
Speaker 3: Haven't heard from for a long time.
Speaker 4: I've got to say, Garthaman, the window of opportunity is
Speaker 4: quite slim. The Liberal Party needs to turn this around
Speaker 4: pretty quickly. When can we start actually seeing some genuine
Speaker 4: policy announcements.
Speaker 12: Look, I think they will be coming very quickly, but
Speaker 12: the main thing you're going to see is that bedrock
Speaker 12: labe by Angus on immigration. Clearly this is a place
Speaker 12: for people who want to be here. On the economy,
Speaker 12: we need to be very sensible with our spending and
Speaker 12: it needs to be putting Australians first. And look when
Speaker 12: you see interest rates going up, this is a sign
Speaker 12: that these things aren't in play. And I think Angus
Speaker 12: is best placed, I really do, of anyone on our
Speaker 12: side to leaders through these difficult economic times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean he was also on the front
Speaker 4: foot speaking about the economy today as well. Getting back
Speaker 4: to those basics, he's going to be announcing his front
Speaker 4: bench soon. Do you expect to get a role on
Speaker 4: the Angus Taylor front bench.
Speaker 12: No, I'm very happy being the Member for Groom. I'll
Speaker 12: leave it to Angus to choose what he wants, Tanika.
Speaker 12: I've been on your show right throughout this term, leading
Speaker 12: the way on quite a few policy issues. From net
Speaker 12: zero spoke about immigration policy. I've been very happy to
Speaker 12: speak out and make sure that people knew the Liberal
Speaker 12: Party was still in touch with Australia. Now we've got
Speaker 12: Angus at the helm. I think he's going to take
Speaker 12: the lead on that and that's going to be fantastic.
Speaker 4: So you're not going to You're not worried if you
Speaker 4: don't get a spot. You want a spot, Let's be honest.
Speaker 12: Oh look anyway, any politician who tells you it doesn't
Speaker 12: they don't want to spot his line to here. But
Speaker 12: I've learned a lot in this game. The best thing
Speaker 12: you can do is do your best and leave everything
Speaker 12: else to chance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no fair, Colin, You're right.
Speaker 4: I mean you've been very much on the front foot
Speaker 4: on so many of these issues. How do you now
Speaker 4: look to claw back votes from one nation? I know
Speaker 4: that Pauline Hansen was very critical even of the leadership
Speaker 4: change on Friday, but clearly that there is a problem there.
Speaker 4: You have been bleeding votes to one nation. What do
Speaker 4: you do to win back that support.
Speaker 12: Well, once we establish those clear policy foundations on the
Speaker 12: things that matter to people and energy, on immigration, on
Speaker 12: the economy, I think then we have to turn to
Speaker 12: everyone on the right of politics, no matter where they are,
Speaker 12: and say come with me. And I think Angus is
Speaker 12: going to do that. He's going to tell people, you know,
Speaker 12: we've got a long way to go to the election,
Speaker 12: but right now we have to be a credible opposition
Speaker 12: to mister Albinizi. And if you need to wear your
Speaker 12: own shirt for a while, wear it for a while.
Speaker 12: But on these fights we have to have with labor
Speaker 12: right here, right now, come with us, and I think
Speaker 12: will show that strength over time, we will show the
Speaker 12: direction that we're heading in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look good to hear, as I said, it's a
Speaker 4: great start to hear Angus Taylor really firing on all
Speaker 4: fronts when it comes to those issues that I think
Speaker 4: a lot of conservative voters have been tearing their hair
Speaker 4: out about for so long. I want to ask you,
Speaker 4: I just spoke earlier about these reports of the Daily
Speaker 4: Telegraph that fourteen children in New South Wales have been
Speaker 4: subjected to suspected force marriages in the past financial year.
Speaker 4: These are unofficial ceremonies conducted by Islamic clerics in backyards.
Speaker 4: It's up from eight to the year before Garth. My
Speaker 4: argument is that we've imported this, and again, immigration is key.
Speaker 4: It comes down to immigration policy. Now we'll point out
Speaker 4: the majority of Muslims live peacefully in this country. But
Speaker 4: I am talking about a radical sect of Islam that
Speaker 4: is incompatible with our values.
Speaker 3: What do we do about it?
Speaker 12: Well, I think we have to acknowledge it is incompatible.
Speaker 12: I'm one of the few guests you'll have who has
Speaker 12: lived un there Sharia law. During my time in Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 12: I could have lived there very well off quite frankly,
Speaker 12: but the contrast and the idea of trying to raise
Speaker 12: my kids under some of these sort of laws was
Speaker 12: just too much for.
Speaker 11: Me to think.
Speaker 12: And I came to Australia came back home. There is
Speaker 12: such a difference and we have to acknowledge that. And look,
Speaker 12: diversity of background is a wonderful thing. It's really interesting,
Speaker 12: But as a nation we need unity of purpose. Unity
Speaker 12: is about where we're going and it's about tomorrow. And
Speaker 12: unless we have that, and I'm talking not just individually
Speaker 12: but in the little groups around Australia, then we will
Speaker 12: never be our full potential.
Speaker 3: No, that's it, and I do agree.
Speaker 4: I think it comes down to a lot of acknowledgment
Speaker 4: that we have brought some people in whose values are
Speaker 4: incompatible with the Western democracy in particular. And you know,
Speaker 4: some who hate us, some who hate our values, and
Speaker 4: some who have no interest in assimilating into the this
Speaker 4: great country. So you know, we have to actually raise
Speaker 4: the point. We can't dance around it. That is absolutely key.
Speaker 4: Just on the Isis brides, there are some still being
Speaker 4: held in northern Syria. They've now applied for Australian passports.
Speaker 3: In an effort to return home. We're talking Garth.
Speaker 4: At least ten women and children who were in Syrian camps.
Speaker 4: They've lodged applications. Look, here we go again. You know,
Speaker 4: the Jahati romance doesn't quite work out. They want to
Speaker 4: come back here to the country in which they betrayed
Speaker 4: when they left here to go to the death cult.
Speaker 4: What's your response to this look.
Speaker 12: I have a lot of sympathy for the children. I
Speaker 12: imagine they've been raised in very difficult circumstances. The truth is, however,
Speaker 12: these mothers left Australia. The chose to go to join
Speaker 12: an army that was fighting against people who share our values,
Speaker 12: that wanted to violently fight against us. They made that choice.
Speaker 12: And this isn't a choice that's compatible with living in
Speaker 12: Australians society. This isn't a you can't be a a
Speaker 12: member of VIIs and live down the end of the
Speaker 12: street and everyone be happy about it. This is something
Speaker 12: that is completely against our way of life, and they
Speaker 12: chose that. And they've spent time sadly in these camps,
Speaker 12: which would be an absolute hotbed of fundamentalism and all
Speaker 12: the sort of things that we try to avoid when
Speaker 12: we're looking at people who want to come to Australia.
Speaker 12: So I think I don't have much sympathy in these
Speaker 12: situations for these women. I'm sorry they've made their decision.
Speaker 12: They chose not to be Australians, they chose not to
Speaker 12: support us at a pivotal time in history, and I
Speaker 12: can't see something that says why they should be back here.
Speaker 4: No, I agree. I've got no sympathy for them either.
Speaker 4: They knew what they were doing when they left this
Speaker 4: wonderful country of ours to go and join the death cult. Sorry,
Speaker 4: no sympathy on MI end either. Garth Hamilton, always nice
Speaker 4: to chat with you.
Speaker 3: Thanks very much for joining me on the program. Really
Speaker 3: appreciate it well.
Speaker 4: Joining me now is forming New South Wales Police Minister
Speaker 4: David Elliott and Verb Communications Mcsweetenhi to both of you.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for joining me on the show.
Speaker 3: Boy. It's been a big couple of days, hasn't it.
Speaker 3: Let's of course start with.
Speaker 4: The liberal leadership Angus Taylor. I think he's come out
Speaker 4: firing on all fronts personally pro and I think that
Speaker 4: this is exactly what conservative bases needed to hear.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 15: Absolutely, I think he's done really well. And I was
Speaker 15: never a huge fan. I have to say, I don't
Speaker 15: think he's a great media performer or hasn't been up
Speaker 15: till now. And I was more of a hasty fan,
Speaker 15: even though I know he pulled out.
Speaker 3: But I think.
Speaker 15: Taylor has scripped it with both hands, and this is
Speaker 15: starting to say the things that we've been dying to
Speaker 15: hear about immigration, about the economy, all these things that
Speaker 15: have been bothering us so much that Susan didn't ever enunciate.
Speaker 3: And you know, we've.
Speaker 15: Got this pile on from you know, the usual suspects
Speaker 15: in labor about anti women. I mean these morons, these
Speaker 15: imbeciles in the back room who obviously think Gigley schoolboys,
Speaker 15: who are just smart us, yeah, who are in self
Speaker 15: team women. You know the fact that we want women
Speaker 15: vote based on what the policies are. How dare you
Speaker 15: insinuate that we vote for women because they're women, you know,
Speaker 15: I mean we want policies, we want things that we
Speaker 15: can relate to. And if Angus keeps going the way
Speaker 15: he is going, I think he's as long as he
Speaker 15: gets a good pick of the front bench. He needs
Speaker 15: really strong performers, you know, just Center needs to be
Speaker 15: their Hasty needs their Garth Hamilton.
Speaker 3: It's Garth's brilliant, So there's.
Speaker 15: Plenty of strong performers there if he has the medal
Speaker 15: to do so.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I do want to talk about the whole
Speaker 4: issue of gender gender with the Liberal Party in a moment.
Speaker 4: But David, we finally have an outcome it is Angus Taylor.
Speaker 4: Is he the one that's going to take this party
Speaker 4: forward to really have some sort of an impact at
Speaker 4: the next election.
Speaker 11: Well, he's going to have to.
Speaker 16: I mean, obviously he's going to have a massive challenge with
Speaker 16: the Pharao by election. And if the Liberal Party loses
Speaker 16: the Pharao bye election, that will put immediate pressure on
Speaker 16: Angus Taylor. I think his first seventy two hours can
Speaker 16: safely be seen as a pass. I think that he's steadied.
Speaker 16: He steadied the ship already and that was an early
Speaker 16: challenge for him and he's done it. I like Proue,
Speaker 16: think that now it comes down to who is going
Speaker 16: to surround himself with. He needs to prove that he's
Speaker 16: a pluralist and he's going to have to have moderates
Speaker 16: as well as sender right and his own right wing
Speaker 16: faction in the shadow cabinet. He's going to need to
Speaker 16: make sure that he keeps the nice balance between Western
Speaker 16: Sydney and regional New South Wales and of course some
Speaker 16: of the other states which are going to be key
Speaker 16: to our victory. And quite frankly, now he has to
Speaker 16: rebuild the party because the party structure has been found
Speaker 16: wanting in recent times.
Speaker 11: You know, we stuffed up local government last year.
Speaker 16: So now it's timing to make sure he's got the
Speaker 16: right party president, the right state directors across the state,
Speaker 16: people that he trusted will give him full and frank
Speaker 16: advice and might be playing silly factional games.
Speaker 4: How do you think he'll go in Farah because obviously
Speaker 4: one Nation they are looking to field a candidate there.
Speaker 4: This is going to be a big first test of
Speaker 4: his leadership.
Speaker 3: What's the state of place?
Speaker 11: It will come down to the candidate.
Speaker 16: I mean, he will want Justin Clancy the state, the
Speaker 16: very popular state member who has just been elected Deputy
Speaker 16: leader under Kelly Sloane here in New South Wales. If
Speaker 16: Justin Clancy is the candidate, I think will hold the
Speaker 16: seat and we might even increase our majority because he's
Speaker 16: got a very strong personal following in.
Speaker 11: Some of the New South Wales.
Speaker 16: If Justin doesn't run, I think that we're very vulnerable
Speaker 16: in Farah and it will come down to how much
Speaker 16: of that one nation vote we're seeing on the polls
Speaker 16: translate to ballot papers.
Speaker 4: Well, this will be the first test and I think
Speaker 4: all eyes will be on that. That'll be very very
Speaker 4: fascinating to see if the polls are actually correct, how
Speaker 4: one nation does and of course a big test of
Speaker 4: the leadership of Angus Taylor.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about gender.
Speaker 4: As I mentioned earlier, Labor's already throwing up the gender card.
Speaker 4: I mean, oel for goodness sake, unloading her groceries and
Speaker 4: the fridge, and you know, commenting on gender a lot
Speaker 4: of nonsense. But now the founder of a liberal women's
Speaker 4: network has resigned from the organization and quit the party altogether,
Speaker 4: two days of course, after Susan Lee was toppled. Charlotte Mortlock,
Speaker 4: a former Sky News colleague of mine who founded Hillmer's
Speaker 4: Network four years ago to boost female representation of the Liberals.
Speaker 4: She has quit a comes a week after the party's
Speaker 4: new South Wales branch dumped a planned vote on gender
Speaker 4: quotas and improve as.
Speaker 3: Charlotte Morlock had worked on the proposal with five other
Speaker 3: Liberal women.
Speaker 4: But I think you alluded to this earlier gender quotas
Speaker 4: and that's not what the Liberal Party is based on.
Speaker 15: For goodness, it isn't and it's insulting to women. This
Speaker 15: is what annoys me so much. You've got the Labor
Speaker 15: Party of course seizing on this because you know it's
Speaker 15: the party of the mean girls. Let's face it, it knows
Speaker 15: how to dish dirt so well, these beautiful, cultured, gentle
Speaker 15: women who have empathy for all the other women in town. Well,
Speaker 15: I tell you, sis, we hate the fact that you're
Speaker 15: a bunch of bullies, feral bullies from a school yard.
Speaker 15: And you know you don't even know what a woman is.
Speaker 15: That's the you know, what is a woman? To the
Speaker 15: Labor Party, I put it, damn will know. So don't
Speaker 15: talk to us, don't talk down to us as women
Speaker 15: and tell us that we can't possibly have empathy and
Speaker 15: put a vote to the Liberal Party. You're a bunch
Speaker 15: of I was going to say fight us W with
Speaker 15: saying something with W, but I won't.
Speaker 3: You all know it's a bit too early for that
Speaker 3: for that one.
Speaker 4: No, but you're right as well. It's basically saying that
Speaker 4: a woman.
Speaker 3: Cannot succeed unless there is a.
Speaker 4: Gender quota actual and I mean the fact that the
Speaker 4: New South Wales branch, I mean your branch was even
Speaker 4: considering gender quotas at one point.
Speaker 16: It's hard to say you're the Party of merit unless you've.
Speaker 11: Got testicles right, because that's exactly what they're saying. We
Speaker 11: believe in equality here, we believe in equality there, except
Speaker 11: for gender, because we're going to run some now.
Speaker 16: I try to be objective when it comes to quotas everywhere,
Speaker 16: whether it be for age, for gender, whatever, I'm open
Speaker 16: minded on an objective about it. However, as proven you
Speaker 16: have already identified the biggest people, the biggest demographic opposed
Speaker 16: to gender quotas are women with sons, because the women
Speaker 16: with sons will come to me and say, and regularly do,
Speaker 16: I don't want a mean girl taking the opportunity that
Speaker 16: my son has rightly worked for fair enough, and they're
Speaker 16: they're the ones. I mean, it's funny, it's it's you know,
Speaker 16: it's left wing men. It's moderate women who when there's
Speaker 16: a conservative male needs to be replaced by a female.
Speaker 16: But when there's a when there's a moderate male, doesn't
Speaker 16: you know we should policy exactly and so, But the
Speaker 16: great challenge for the Liberal Party was always we can't
Speaker 16: say that we're the party of meritocracy unless, of course you're.
Speaker 15: Talking about exactly what was arguing about Susan Lee and
Speaker 15: the fact why because she didn't perform exactly do.
Speaker 4: His little bit later polling, it's been an absolute disaster.
Speaker 3: It's got nothing to do with genders.
Speaker 4: It's all to do with how bad basically she didn't
Speaker 4: have the cut through.
Speaker 3: Nothing to do with gender.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the Trade Minister Don Farrell and that
Speaker 4: quote that I played you earlier about him talking.
Speaker 3: About the Prime Minister one of his worst.
Speaker 4: But he's admitted that he doesn't even know the rules
Speaker 4: of his own portfolio and yet he's the minister responsible
Speaker 4: for overseeing the Parliamentary expenses watchdog and he's so out
Speaker 4: of touch. He suggested that he's recent ninety thousand dollars
Speaker 4: tax paid bill to fly his wife and adult children
Speaker 4: around the country actually passes the pub test.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Don, but what planet is he living on?
Speaker 3: What pub is he going to? That's what I want
Speaker 3: to know.
Speaker 15: But the thing is I had a look and apparently
Speaker 15: these federal politicians spent between forty to sixty days away
Speaker 15: from their families in Canberra. So he must love his
Speaker 15: family a hell of a lot that he's got to
Speaker 15: have them, you know, tied like an umbilical court around
Speaker 15: his travel luggage case, because I.
Speaker 11: Mean, he must be taking them everywhere.
Speaker 15: There's no justification for it, and I just think it's
Speaker 15: just a raud. They're all on it and they don't
Speaker 15: want to criticize each other. He of courses in charge
Speaker 15: of the mob that sets the rules, but he doesn't.
Speaker 11: Know the rules.
Speaker 3: He doesn't know the rules, and we've really confused. So
Speaker 3: he's always been a joke that blow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then he described Anthony Alberneezy as a man
Speaker 4: with like a sea of tranquility where I got that
Speaker 4: poetry from.
Speaker 12: But that's one of his worst life.
Speaker 4: But the fact that he said, oh, you know, look
Speaker 4: at me upset the record.
Speaker 3: I travel around, look at me.
Speaker 4: I'm doing deals here and there, as if it's some
Speaker 4: sort of justification for spending this much money on entitlements.
Speaker 16: What really infuriates me is that we have soldiers deployed
Speaker 16: for six twelve months overseas.
Speaker 11: Do you think their wives get a family reunion package?
Speaker 11: Good point, So, don that's great, you spent forty days overseas.
Speaker 16: I spent one hundred and eighty days overseas when I
Speaker 16: was an army officer as a peacekeeper. My wife didn't
Speaker 16: even get a free train trip. So I think that
Speaker 16: that is quite an insult, and I think that it
Speaker 16: highlight to the fact that Dawn doesn't live in the
Speaker 16: real world. Setting aside the fact that he spent his
Speaker 16: pre parliamentary life as a Union official, we have to
Speaker 16: remember also that he also owns a vineyard, so he's
Speaker 16: the original Chardona socialist. However, does he allow his managers
Speaker 16: at that vineyard to take ninety thousand dollars out of
Speaker 16: company farms whether they can go to Okay, he doesn't,
Speaker 16: I can guarantee. I don't know for a fact, but
Speaker 16: I will put the kids on. He doesn't know now
Speaker 16: behave the way that he is as a minister, and
Speaker 16: so I do I do find I mean, I think
Speaker 16: in twelve years in parliament, I used my family and
Speaker 16: travel vouchers. Wants to fly my wife to Canberra to
Speaker 16: meet Prince William once in twelve years and it cost
Speaker 16: about two hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: It's a big difference two hundred dollars versus.
Speaker 16: And I help why it should be there, because sometimes
Speaker 16: there is an expectation on families to do stuff.
Speaker 11: But ninety thousand dollars. Yes, I drink at a lot
Speaker 11: of pubs.
Speaker 4: I'm going to the exactly, yeah, and you could be
Speaker 4: there with the sea of tranquilities. We actually this leads
Speaker 4: really nicely. We're all mass out of time, but I
Speaker 4: want to ask you about this. Ahead of the seventy
Speaker 4: fifth anniversary of the introduction of the National.
Speaker 3: Service Conscription Conscription Scheme, there are calls.
Speaker 4: To bring it back to shape a new generation of
Speaker 4: young ossies.
Speaker 3: This is David Webster. He fought in Vietnam.
Speaker 4: He's told the Australian it made him the man. He
Speaker 4: became a one star general in the Australian Army, a husband, father,
Speaker 4: granddad in the security of his home life. He believes
Speaker 4: that this controversial program was the best thing that ever
Speaker 4: happened to him, and of course his calls echo that
Speaker 4: of former Prime Minister Tony Abbott. David, I'll start with you,
Speaker 4: as somebody who has served.
Speaker 3: Do we bring it back?
Speaker 11: I'm not a fan. First of all, it's very very
Speaker 11: cost prohibitive.
Speaker 16: Secondly, you have professional soldiers having a babysit, people that
Speaker 16: don't want to be there.
Speaker 11: However, there is an opportunity for us.
Speaker 16: To expand a whole lot of programs that are out there.
Speaker 16: My personal view, expand the gap year program that encourages
Speaker 16: kids to go from school, have a year in the army,
Speaker 16: and then maybe say to them, right, if you stay
Speaker 16: on as an active reservist, we'll cover your hexstead.
Speaker 11: If you stay on.
Speaker 16: As an active reservist, well then we'll continue that tax
Speaker 16: free pay that you've acquired. But I was actually having
Speaker 16: lunch today with two very senior form military officers, and
Speaker 16: nobody wants to turn the army into a dumping ground
Speaker 16: for the crap of society, because that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 11: We get a job, you're going to go together the end.
Speaker 15: But whether it is the crap or you know, job seek,
Speaker 15: one hundred thousand people between sixteen and twenty who are
Speaker 15: on the public teeth, why couldn't we at least train
Speaker 15: them and okay, set up another get some people like
Speaker 15: you retirees and I wouldn't doub you in, but people
Speaker 15: who've been in the army or navy or whatever, and
Speaker 15: train them because it will teach them self respect, give
Speaker 15: them massfiction, teamwork, all the things that.
Speaker 3: Are so important.
Speaker 4: Well, and I personally think that we should send the
Speaker 4: repeat offenders, the repeat juvenile offenders go go love you
Speaker 4: give a bit of time from the army and let's
Speaker 4: see if they.
Speaker 3: Repeat offend again. Great to have you both on great
Speaker 3: discussion day. Thanks Promixtween. Thank you very much for joining me.
Speaker 4: After the break that Prime Minister sympathizes with the praying
Speaker 4: muslim men who de fighted a new South Wales police
Speaker 4: order before being moved on, I'll chat to Alex Ripchin
Speaker 4: about this latest attempt to win over the Muslim vote.
Speaker 4: Welcome back will Australia descended into a farce over the
Speaker 4: past week, not even two months after the Bondi massacre,
Speaker 4: we saw those dreadful scenes in Sydney where protesters attacked
Speaker 4: police angry about the visit of Israeli President Isaac Herzog.
Speaker 4: In Melbourne, the CBD was also hijacked by the anti Israel,
Speaker 4: anti Australia mob. Death to Herzog was graffited at the
Speaker 4: University of Melbourne and protesters even held signs.
Speaker 3: Which read abolish Australia.
Speaker 4: Joining me now is Executive Council of Australian Jury co
Speaker 4: CEO Alex Ripchin. Alex, thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 4: As always, is this not the type of behavior that
Speaker 4: the Bondai massacre taught us was so dangerous.
Speaker 17: Well, this is That's what we've seen for two and
Speaker 17: a half years, and we know that the genesis of
Speaker 17: the horrific terrorist attack that devastated my community was the
Speaker 17: incitement on the streets of Sydney, these rabid street protests
Speaker 17: which have defamed and dehumanized Jewish Australians consistently weak in
Speaker 17: week out. We know that it didn't begin with a
Speaker 17: terror attack. It ended with a terror attack, and so
Speaker 17: to see it continuing even after the attack, it's disgusting,
Speaker 17: it's shameful, it's depressing in a way. But no one
Speaker 17: is really surprised by this because we know we're dealing
Speaker 17: with a fanatical movement that, as they displayed there with
Speaker 17: their signs and graffiti, hate Israel. It's not about policies,
Speaker 17: it's about wishing to see the destruction of the state.
Speaker 17: It's about hating this country and wanting to wipe away
Speaker 17: the democracy and the freedoms that we all hold deer
Speaker 17: in this country. So there's no surprise here. But ultimately,
Speaker 17: even their extremism, even their provocations, couldn't dampen a brilliant
Speaker 17: trip by the President. I think it achieved everything that
Speaker 17: he sought to do. It comforted the community, It recalibrated
Speaker 17: the relationship between the two countries. We look forward to
Speaker 17: better days ahead.
Speaker 4: Look absolutely, and you know it was so worthwhile having
Speaker 4: him here to go to Bondi and to visit people,
Speaker 4: to speak to the grieving community. I mean, it was
Speaker 4: just so important to have his presence here in Australia.
Speaker 4: I want to ask you about this because we saw
Speaker 4: in Sydney, of course, that deliberate active defiance when Muslim
Speaker 4: men began praying as they were given an order to
Speaker 4: move on. And it happened again in Melbourne this weekkend
Speaker 4: have a look at this, okay, and but once again
Speaker 4: the Prime Minister has shown that he does not have
Speaker 4: the interests of Australian Australians at heart.
Speaker 3: Have a look.
Speaker 9: I'm very empathetic about the hurt that's being felt by
Speaker 9: the Muslim community of prayers being disrupted.
Speaker 5: You so you concern specifically around that element.
Speaker 9: I think that is an issue that needs addressing because
Speaker 9: I think people need to have a right to practice
Speaker 9: their faith in peace. And you know some of the footage,
Speaker 9: of course, you need to be careful about footage because
Speaker 9: you don't get to see the full picture.
Speaker 3: Okay, and that was what happened in Melbourne. We've got
Speaker 3: the audio on that.
Speaker 4: What do you say to what the Prime Minister said,
Speaker 4: I mean, we saw these deliberate acts of defiancy. I
Speaker 4: think it was weaponizing religion, saying well, we were praying,
Speaker 4: but they're in the middle of a police order to
Speaker 4: move on. What do you make of the Prime Minister
Speaker 4: going into.
Speaker 17: Bat Look, firstly, I think it's dangerous to preempt any investigation,
Speaker 17: and there's a lot of social media footage usually posted
Speaker 17: for a particular purpose to drive an agenda, and I
Speaker 17: think that needs to be looked at very carefully and
Speaker 17: investigated to see how this transpired. But on the face
Speaker 17: of it, no one would dispute the right of free
Speaker 17: prayer and the right to assemble and practice one's faith
Speaker 17: in this country. As a person of faith myself, that's
Speaker 17: to me something sacred. But prayer is a solemn, personal,
Speaker 17: deeply private app that is done in a particular time,
Speaker 17: in a particular place. And I think that the scenes
Speaker 17: that we saw by the town hall in a protest area,
Speaker 17: in an extremely tense environment which police were doing their
Speaker 17: best to de escalate. Was it essential to pray in
Speaker 17: that spot at that time? Couldn't have been done ten
Speaker 17: meters down the road, outside the protest zone, outside the
Speaker 17: presence of the police. It looks very much like an
Speaker 17: orchestrated stunt to create animosity, to drive further division in
Speaker 17: the community, to further demonize the police and somehow depict
Speaker 17: them as being uniformly Islamophobic. You know, there were people
Speaker 17: online far left commentators referring to these images as the
Speaker 17: Rodney King moment in Australia. They wanted to be that
Speaker 17: the Rodney King moment in LA led to days of horrific, violent, deadly, rioting, destruction,
Speaker 17: really destroying that city, and they want to see the
Speaker 17: same thing replicated here. So to me, it looks like
Speaker 17: a stunt, and I think it needs to be separated
Speaker 17: out from the right of prayer, which is sacred in
Speaker 17: which no reasonable person would question. But that is something different.
Speaker 17: No rights are unlimited. No one has the right to
Speaker 17: pray in public in an area that the police are
Speaker 17: trying to clear for their own safety.
Speaker 4: Look, I couldn't agree more with you, absolutely spot on,
Speaker 4: And you know, obviously there's going to be an investigation
Speaker 4: now but still there was a move on notice in place,
Speaker 4: and that's what we have to keep in mind.
Speaker 3: I just want to ask you about this very interesting.
Speaker 4: Investigation in the Australian inside the Palestine Action Group, and
Speaker 4: I've got to say the findings of this are quite concerning.
Speaker 4: The pro Palestine protesters who orchestrated this week's violent Sydney rally,
Speaker 4: gloated about Israel's humiliation hours after October seven, and started
Speaker 4: organizing demonstrations while terrorists were still slaughtering civilians in their homes.
Speaker 3: It says.
Speaker 4: What is less clear about the Palestine Action Group is
Speaker 4: who else is behind it, the source of its funding,
Speaker 4: and how entwined it is with the disparate groups that
Speaker 4: have joined its protesters. I mean, Alex we've seen people
Speaker 4: like Josh Lee's for example, but when you hear that
Speaker 4: in the Australian, how concerning is the depths of the hate.
Speaker 4: This goes beyond justin anti Israel protest.
Speaker 17: Again, we've seen this in plain sight for so long now,
Speaker 17: and as October seven was unfolding, and the Jewish community
Speaker 17: and all decent human individuals in this country, around the world,
Speaker 17: we're looking on mortified, fearful, anxious at the scenes of
Speaker 17: women being dragged off by the heron to captivity, families
Speaker 17: bound together and burned alive, to one hundred and fifty
Speaker 17: people dragged into captivity as Palestinian civilians paraded in the
Speaker 17: streets and beat their bodies and cursed them. We all
Speaker 17: felt this extreme fear and terror and anxiety at that time.
Speaker 17: But the Palatine Action Group in josh Please put in
Speaker 17: a form one notice to organize a protest, and it
Speaker 17: wasn't to show sympathy for those people these are supposedly
Speaker 17: peace activists. It was to revel in it. It was
Speaker 17: to refer to this as the humiliation of Israel, and
Speaker 17: any notion that these people are peace activists just evaporated
Speaker 17: on that day. These people yearn for war, they want war.
Speaker 17: They cheer on Iranian rockets and hoodie drones and Hummas
Speaker 17: terror operations. They simply want Israel to lose in this war.
Speaker 17: That's why they were so opposed to a ceasefire when
Speaker 17: it happened, and they kept protesting afterwards. So you know,
Speaker 17: sections of the press and society and the political class
Speaker 17: seek to rehabilitate these people as being peace activists. They're
Speaker 17: anything but and anyone who's actually paying attention and wants
Speaker 17: to see them for what they are, they don't even
Speaker 17: disguise it. It's so evident, it's so apparent. Look at
Speaker 17: their posters, look at the timing of their rallies, look
Speaker 17: at what they say and do these are anti democratic,
Speaker 17: anti Western, anti Australian, anti Israel and certainly anti peace.
Speaker 8: Oh.
Speaker 4: Look, absolutely they don't want peace, and that they keep
Speaker 4: coming back for more. And you know there's already some
Speaker 4: sort of level of peace right now in this war,
Speaker 4: but back home they don't want this. Alex Ripchen, always
Speaker 4: great to have your insights. Thank you very much for
Speaker 4: joining me on the show. Really appreciate it. Coming up
Speaker 4: after the break, a deep dive into One Nation's rise.
Speaker 3: Kevin Donnelly will give me his take next Welcome back.
Speaker 15: Well.
Speaker 4: I spoke earlier about One Nation leader Pauline Hansen's favorability rating.
Speaker 4: Author and culture critic Kevin Donnelly has written a very
Speaker 4: interesting article online called wake Up to Woke, It's Time Australia.
Speaker 4: In it, he writes, the surge of support for One
Speaker 4: Nation is further evidence, if one was needed, that Australian
Speaker 4: society is undergoing significant cultural change as millions of Australians
Speaker 4: seek an alternative to self seeking political parties that ignore
Speaker 4: the will of the people. And Kevin joins me now, Kevin,
Speaker 4: good to see you. What's changed in your views?
Speaker 1: An expression, Benika, the culture is upstream of politics. And
Speaker 1: what that means is politicians, the media. They all talk
Speaker 1: about politics every day, every week, you know whether there's
Speaker 1: a new leader or what the policies are. But what
Speaker 1: we have to understand and we need to take a
Speaker 1: longer term view, is that culture is upstream of politics.
Speaker 1: So when you look at Australian society, if you're compare
Speaker 1: to what we were like under the time Robert Menzies
Speaker 1: was Prime Minister, that was a very conservative time. It
Speaker 1: was after the war, after the depression. People were more
Speaker 1: attuned to patriotism, to being part of society where there
Speaker 1: were conservative values. As I said, if you look at
Speaker 1: GoF Whitlam, there was a radical change. You remember his
Speaker 1: slogan it's time it was all about when he got
Speaker 1: into government, quite radical change in terms of gender, homosexuality policies,
Speaker 1: the pill, Vietnam moratorians. Now, what's happened over the last
Speaker 1: ten twenty years is that the major political parties have
Speaker 1: not realized that culture has changed. A lot of mainstream voters.
Speaker 1: They want continuity, they don't want radical change. They want
Speaker 1: a focus on family, community and pride in being Australian
Speaker 1: and that's all fundamentally changed. And liberal parties, the Liberal
Speaker 1: Party and the Labor Party are responsible for that, and
Speaker 1: that's why people are flocking for One Nation.
Speaker 3: And I mean I spoke about this earlier too.
Speaker 4: I feel even just in the last few months, even
Speaker 4: since Bondi Australia change, it was a pivotal moment, but
Speaker 4: the Liberal Party never caught up. And I think that
Speaker 4: One Nation has absolutely capitalized on this when it comes
Speaker 4: to you know, issues like immigration, people who are bringing
Speaker 4: in you also, and I found this point interesting too.
Speaker 4: You write about conservatism in a modern world.
Speaker 3: And that's a really good question.
Speaker 4: We're having this debate now about what the Liberal Party
Speaker 4: looks like, what does it stand for?
Speaker 3: So what does it mean to be conservative now?
Speaker 1: Well, I have to be careful, Veneka, and I've been
Speaker 1: attacked for being male, pale and stale, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't like talking about the past. I mean
Speaker 1: ts Eliott, the English poet said it very well. We
Speaker 1: want continuity as well as change. We need to respect
Speaker 1: our past institutions, way of life. We are a Western
Speaker 1: liberal democracy that didn't happen by accident, or didn't happen overnight.
Speaker 1: It goes back to federation. In Australia, it goes back
Speaker 1: to and I often talk about seventeen eighty eight, the
Speaker 1: arrival of the first fleet. Two of the books that
Speaker 1: arrived were the King James Bible and Blaxton's Laws of England.
Speaker 1: And what that meant is at the new colony. Eventually
Speaker 1: Australia we inherited that cold more broadly, our political, our legal,
Speaker 1: our religious from United Kingdom and from Europe, that Western
Speaker 1: liberal democracy and Christianity. So we time escape that. Now
Speaker 1: it does change, it does evolve. Edmund Burke many consider
Speaker 1: the father of conservatism. He understood that you need to
Speaker 1: have change. But what he argued, and he was talking
Speaker 1: about the French Revolution at the time, you want evolution,
Speaker 1: you don't want revolution. And you only have to look
Speaker 1: at what's happening to a lot of young people with
Speaker 1: the gender and transgenderism debate to see the problem you
Speaker 1: have when you jump into a new policy without thinking
Speaker 1: of the consequences.
Speaker 3: That's a really good point.
Speaker 4: We've got less than a minute left, but just very
Speaker 4: quickly is political correctness killing politics again?
Speaker 1: You know I've written about political correctness, about being wote ideology.
Speaker 1: What we have to be aware and politicians need to
Speaker 1: be aware that the way societies change has to be understood.
Speaker 1: And the reality is many years ago it happened with
Speaker 1: German radical really duce. He argued in the West that
Speaker 1: the Barrack people will never storm the barricades. So if
Speaker 1: you want to radical change, if you want cultural Marxism,
Speaker 1: you take the long march through the institutions. And what
Speaker 1: Paul Enhanson has realized is that she has to focus
Speaker 1: as people want, on family, community, nation, more conservative values.
Speaker 4: Yes, you're absolutely a spot on, a fascinating analysis and yep,
Speaker 4: so true to what's going on right now. Kevin Donnelly
Speaker 4: got to leave it there. Good to see. Thanks very
Speaker 4: much for joining me, stay with me. Coming up, Denik
Speaker 4: has done of the week.
Speaker 3: That's next. Welcome back time Now for Denika's.
Speaker 4: Dud of the Week, which goes to Ali Andrea Acazio Cortez. Now,
Speaker 4: this week, the Democrat representative was Ben touted as the
Speaker 4: party's next big thing when it comes to foreign policy.
Speaker 3: Okay, she was going to go onto the world.
Speaker 4: Stage in Munich and impress everyone, impress the Democrats for
Speaker 4: a run at twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Well, here is her take on foreign policy.
Speaker 10: Would and should the US actually commit US troops to
Speaker 10: defend Taiwan if China were to move.
Speaker 5: You know, I think that.
Speaker 8: This is such a you know, I think that.
Speaker 12: This is a.
Speaker 8: This is of course, a very long standing policy of
Speaker 8: the United States.
Speaker 4: The wheels are ticking, but there's nobody home. And I've
Speaker 4: got to say that she may even make Kamala Harris
Speaker 4: look coherent. And gee, that's saying something. If that's the
Speaker 4: best the Democrats have got, very much, so good luck.
Speaker 4: Well that is it from me. I'll be back Friday
Speaker 4: at eight pm for Opinionated.
Speaker 3: Up next is the McPherson Angele. Goodnight,