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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Pit Talk, brought to you by Shannons.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, the twenty twenty six Formula One season

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Speaker 1: is underway, with George Russell leading a Mercedes one two

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Speaker 1: to victory in Melbourne, but not every driver was thrilled

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Speaker 1: by their first experience of the new rules. How come

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Speaker 1: and what can be done about us? My name's Michael Lomonatto.

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Speaker 1: It's great to have your company and the company of

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Speaker 1: my co host. He was typing so hard and so

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Speaker 1: fast in the media center on Sunday he gave himself

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Speaker 1: permanent nerve damage. It's Matt Clayton.

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Speaker 2: Who would have thought that writing stories about Formula One

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Speaker 2: Michael would be almost as dangerous as driving a Formula

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Speaker 2: One car in twenty twenty six, But the ego. But

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Speaker 2: I probably had a better and more fulfilling weekend than

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Speaker 2: Fernando a Lotso or LARTs Stroll. But let's just say

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Speaker 2: that is the lowest possible bar that even in my

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Speaker 2: fatigued Monday post agp state, I can probably fall over

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Speaker 2: at this time of the afternoon, So not great. If

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Speaker 2: you're in Anton, Martin fan or I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you say you own that probably not so good bene

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Speaker 2: for you and I definitely.

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Speaker 1: Not you own you own the team and having a

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Speaker 1: great day no.

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Speaker 2: Matter what I think you are not.

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Speaker 1: We had a really interesting weekend in Melbourne, plenty to

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Speaker 1: talk about, as of course we predicted, given this was

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Speaker 1: the first race weekend under all these new regulations, both

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Speaker 1: chassis and engine, even some new sporting rules in there.

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Speaker 1: A new team in Cadillac, new driver in Avid lynn Blad,

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Speaker 1: lots of new stuff. Not a new pit building though

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Speaker 1: that's going to wait for another year. It can be

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Speaker 1: about next year's podcast. Yes, And so I thought, Matt,

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Speaker 1: we'd go through what lessons we learned from this weekend,

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Speaker 1: acknowledging of course that this coming weekend is the Chinese

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Speaker 1: Grand Prix. We're going to learn a lot more. And

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say the race is flow, thick and fast,

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Speaker 1: but they may well not give them the state of

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Speaker 1: the Middle East at the moment, and the Bahrain and

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Speaker 1: Sadi even Grand Prix that could be coming up a

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Speaker 1: little bit later, another story for another day.

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Speaker 2: Why I kick us off.

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Speaker 1: With the most wine, It MIGHTI you, the biggest lesson

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Speaker 1: that we've learned, because the big news was, of course,

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Speaker 1: the rule changes going into this weekend. That was what

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Speaker 1: we were all eager to see. Clearly proved controversial among

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Speaker 1: many drivers. They're not all drivers, but we got two

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Speaker 1: very different, let's say, glimpses into the potential of these

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Speaker 1: rules between qualifying and the race. My lesson, I think,

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Speaker 1: and police free to disagree with me, is that things

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Speaker 1: are not as bad as many of the drivers were saying.

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Speaker 1: We've heard some pretty dire commentary from Orlando Norris even

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Speaker 1: claiming last year's cars were better, even though if you

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Speaker 1: rewind to last December, I think every single driver was

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Speaker 1: happy to get out of those cars that were causing

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Speaker 1: them back damage, never mind the nerve damage of the

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Speaker 1: Asen Martin and Max for Staff and say, essentially it

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Speaker 1: sounded actually quite defeated on Saturday's essentially saying things like

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Speaker 1: there's no hope for these regulations. We're stuck with them

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Speaker 1: for a long time. George Russell was more optimistic, but

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Speaker 1: of course it would be winning from pole position. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's not as bad as all that negativity.

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Speaker 2: What did you think I would agree with that statement

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Speaker 2: simply because I was braced for the worst. And I

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Speaker 2: also think that after qualifying on Saturday, I think we

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Speaker 2: got the order of the grid was probably the correct

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Speaker 2: order of the grid. I don't think we've got any

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Speaker 2: crazy outliers, but the actual spectacle of qualifying was so unedifying.

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Speaker 2: And you know, you always talk about Albert Park and

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Speaker 2: featureless track. It's very quick these days because of the

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Speaker 2: redevelopment done in twenty two. But there are better race

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Speaker 2: tracks in Formula one bikele as you know, but that

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Speaker 2: sequence of corners was always an absolute highlight on the

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Speaker 2: calendar every time Forbula one came to Australia, and the

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Speaker 2: cars just looked, frankly a bit pathetic through there. They

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Speaker 2: my I guess pessivism about things wasn't helped by Saturday

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Speaker 2: being yeah, we got the correct grid, no silly outliers,

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Speaker 2: but I'm like, I'm not really enjoying this spectacle of this. Conversely,

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Speaker 2: business we're in here, right. We're sort of having this

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Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty six Australian Grand Prix we're really

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Speaker 2: Marvel film, quite frankly, because like I'm enjoying what I'm

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Speaker 2: watching to a degree, but I'm not one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: sure what's going on. This is the chat that I

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Speaker 2: was having with my daughter offline today in that I'll

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Speaker 2: sit and watching and go that was fine. Don't tell

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Speaker 2: me actually what happened or how we got here, because

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Speaker 2: I don't really know. And that was the confusing part

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Speaker 2: about the race in that because the way to drive

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Speaker 2: these cars is so different to anything we've seen previously.

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Speaker 2: The fight at the front, on its face, was really fun.

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Speaker 2: It was really dramatic. There were lots of really big

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Speaker 2: overtakes and people getting their elbows out. It was really

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Speaker 2: really good TV. I'm not quite sure we one hundred

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Speaker 2: the energy deploid of these cars. What's more, I'm not

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Speaker 2: quite sure the participants in the race completely understood what

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Speaker 2: voyage of the unknown, and as the rule set and

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Speaker 2: the year gets more mature, there'll be just this sheer

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Speaker 2: amount of data that Formula one producers, right, there'll be

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Speaker 2: more things known than this weekend. This felt like a

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Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned George Russell being happier than most

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Speaker 2: the most with lastiest cars. So there's always going to

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Speaker 2: be vested interests if one at its core is the

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Speaker 2: thought was entertaining enough race didn't one hundred percent understand why,

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Speaker 2: because I don't think the participants do either, And maybe

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Speaker 2: less pessimism than I thought. But then how you feel

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Speaker 1: I think qualifying definitely demonstrated that. I don't think anyone,

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Speaker 1: even he wasn't particularly effusive effusive about the cars afterwards.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't too negative about them, but of course again

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't be. He took pole position, but by no

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Speaker 1: means was praising them because the challenge. You only have

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Speaker 1: very different. They have very different spectacles. Debatable whether or

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Speaker 1: not this year's pole app was even a spectacle. That's

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Speaker 1: not to diminish a the challenge of driving a Formula

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Speaker 1: one current General or B. Clearly this challenge that is

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Speaker 1: poorly understood by anyone who's not in the car, of

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Speaker 1: getting the lap right, the balance between deploying your energy,

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Speaker 1: We have some random, wacky ones, probably dating back all

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Speaker 1: when you had to use the ties you want to

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Speaker 1: start on. Yes, the qualifying spectacle has always remained I

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Speaker 1: that's diluted this year, and I think that that is

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Speaker 2: About to say exactly that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so I think your average in inverters in commas

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Speaker 1: Can it's twenty four race schedule, your average track will

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Speaker 2: It will look more normal.

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Speaker 1: But I think the thing I really want to drill

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Speaker 1: this a little bit, but I'm not convinced actually what

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Speaker 1: got that battery charge, You've got to get the overtake done.

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Speaker 1: If you don't, then you're vulnerable to the guy behind

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Speaker 1: the other driver can also fight back, which I like,

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Speaker 1: whereas with DRS. You're leading by a second and you're

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Speaker 1: and as Charlotte Claire said, a little bit different in

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Speaker 1: some ways, not necessarily positively different. But I'm willing to

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Speaker 1: of the season, could be a positive difference on Sundays.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned before the two worst words put together

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Speaker 2: in Formula one DRS train. At least we don't have

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Speaker 2: going to take slight issue with you here. This is

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Speaker 2: controversial for you and I know, but there's something about

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Speaker 2: DRS in Yes, it was inherently a bit false and

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Speaker 2: the weekend is I felt that with DRS, the operator

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Speaker 2: of the car was in charge of when it was deployed, right,

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Speaker 2: So hey, you used it tactically, Whereas I think the

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Speaker 1: down on Saturday evening Both McLaren and Ferrari in fact

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00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 1: just didn't seem to kick on in Q three, Yes,

436
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 1: both let's talk about Leclair and Piastre anyway, said pretty

437
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 1: much the same lap times they did in Q two,

438
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Speaker 1: where George Russell did find more time, So I think

439
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 1: that accounts with some of the gap, and then okay,

440
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 1: in race conditions, it's clear that Mercedes was the quicker car,

441
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 1: but not by that much. And okay, there's probably a

442
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 1: degree of Mercedes backing off at the end of the race,

443
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Speaker 1: but I think Ferrari probably did as well, because they

444
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,159
Speaker 1: didn't really gain at all in that second half. In

445
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 1: any way, I think it was clear the race that

446
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,920
Speaker 1: had been cooked by the time they got into the

447
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 1: second half of the race. But I actually think Ferrari

448
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,199
Speaker 1: is enough in the ballpark that I'm willing to be

449
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 1: hopeful perhaps that as we go to some different tracks

450
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Speaker 1: where characteristics are going to play different different cars, particularly

451
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Speaker 1: when we go to more street style tracks or tracks

452
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Speaker 1: just with more corners, probably where that Ferrari engine is

453
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,919
Speaker 1: so good out of the corners thanks to that small turbo,

454
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Speaker 1: great on track. And it's also just a recent historical

455
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 1: trait of Ferrari cars. To be honest, that I think Ferrari,

456
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Speaker 1: with a little bit of a helopment push as well,

457
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 1: because so much of this season is going to be

458
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 1: about development, can say that they're in the mix. I

459
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 1: think Ferrari, I'm not so dispirited to say that this

460
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,959
Speaker 1: is a Mercedes season. I think Ferrari can actually still

461
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Speaker 1: have a good crack at this.

462
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Speaker 2: This is where we've got to with Ferrari. We go

463
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 2: it's not as bad as we thought, as opposed to

464
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Speaker 2: just giving them actual praise like less bad. So that's

465
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Speaker 2: all good. But you're right about I think. I don't

466
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Speaker 2: think anyone was surprised to see Mercedes at the front.

467
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Speaker 2: I think the fact that Ferrari made them work for

468
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 2: it and perhaps exceeded our expectations is a good sign

469
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Speaker 2: for what's to come. And you mentioned the fact that

470
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Speaker 2: that car was the most predictable thing that happened in

471
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Speaker 2: the Grand Prix on Sunday was that Charlote Clair was

472
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Speaker 2: in the lead at turt One, And we were talking

473
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Speaker 2: about this, you know, three or four days beforehand. If

474
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Speaker 2: for the sake of the spectacle, we're actually hoping that

475
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Speaker 2: a Ferrari wouldn't qualify the front row, they'd be second,

476
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Speaker 2: third row, because we know that thing is an absolute

477
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Speaker 2: rocket ship off the line, and were it not for

478
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Speaker 2: charloa Cler getting to turn one in front, then the

479
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 2: whole narrative of the race probably up to the point

480
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Speaker 2: where there's the Hagi safety car like eleven. I think

481
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Speaker 2: it was the opening ten laps of the race were

482
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Speaker 2: made by the first two hundred and seventy meters because

483
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Speaker 2: the Ferrari got to turn white in front, and that's

484
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Speaker 2: going to be I don't think that's a trait that's

485
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Speaker 2: going away necessarily. I think, you know, they may suffer

486
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Speaker 2: in race trim because of it, but you get the

487
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Speaker 2: feeling this could be a season where Ferrari are more

488
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Speaker 2: dictating things from the front of races early than perhaps

489
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Speaker 2: we've seen in previous years. And then what that does

490
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 2: for We know Charlotte Clair's quality. We also know Lewis

491
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Speaker 2: Hamilton can get a bit of a peppitie step when

492
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: you know things are looking pretty good. He's got something

493
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Speaker 2: to be optimistic about. It was nice to see optimistic

494
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: Lewis this week. I've haven't seen that for a while.

495
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Speaker 2: It's a bit a bit doom and gloom. Even when

496
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Speaker 2: he didn't finish on the podium, he was still very

497
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: positive about things. But I think the the hierarchy of

498
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: the teams is not a surprise, but maybe the fact

499
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Speaker 2: that Ferrari seems to be more in the ballpark than

500
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Speaker 2: we thought as a starting point, I think is really

501
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Speaker 2: good for the narrative of the season because we know

502
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Speaker 2: there's no issue there in terms of the driver quality.

503
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Speaker 2: And I like these two lineups in a head to

504
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Speaker 2: head with each other. That's what it turns into because

505
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 2: they're so different. You've got the Antonelli inexperience and youth

506
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Speaker 2: and the Russell's like, we think he can do this,

507
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,239
Speaker 2: but we're not entirely sure. Leclair, to me, has been

508
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Speaker 2: a world champion hiding in playing sight for years. He

509
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: just hasn't had the equipment to do it in and

510
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 2: we know Lewis Hamilton's CV. So if that's what it

511
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Speaker 2: ends up becoming, it's actually a really good narrative for

512
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Speaker 2: Formula One to see the two biggest, probably strongest teams

513
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Speaker 2: going head to head in a battle, coming at it

514
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Speaker 2: from really different directions.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I did enjoy Lewis Hamilon the return of the

516
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Speaker 1: old Lewis Hamilton this weekend. Ye rus is back fairly

517
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Speaker 1: close in face to Charles, which is fine, you know,

518
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: this weekend when everyone's learning a lot. I think I

519
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: think Leclair is a little bit his adaptability, he's maybe

520
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: a little bit underestimated. I think he's just very good

521
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Speaker 1: at getting the most from the car, and I think

522
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Speaker 1: maybe that's just not appreciated because as be honest, it's

523
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: never been a position to really show it off like that.

524
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Speaker 1: I mean, of course we have to ask for schol of.

525
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Speaker 1: This was the same people making the strategy decisions on

526
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Speaker 1: the pit wall understood in I understood to some extent

527
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: the gamble they took not stopping that first BSc and

528
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: then the second one. Unfortunately the pit lane was closed,

529
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Speaker 1: and I mean there's some debate about whether or not

530
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: Hamilton could have entered pit lane. They just went ready

531
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Speaker 1: for it. But it just feels like that we already

532
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: know what the handicap on Ferrari season is and it

533
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: may not be the car, probably the pitwall. But let's

534
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Speaker 1: see how they go in the next couple of races.

535
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Speaker 1: But I think reason if you're a Ferrari fan, to

536
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Speaker 1: at least be a little bit cautiously optimistic that this

537
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: year is still on the track the team would have

538
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Speaker 1: hoped for last year. Now, before I ask you what

539
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: your next lesson is, let's go to Move of the

540
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Speaker 1: Week brought to you by Shannon's a lot of it

541
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Speaker 1: for me to one boasted of the amount of overtaking

542
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Speaker 1: this week, and I think they said it was one

543
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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty up from forty or forty odds last

544
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Speaker 1: year the Stralian Grand Prix, so well, obviously the rules

545
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Speaker 1: are working, no asterisks required. But what caught your eye.

546
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Speaker 2: What court why eye? Was something that I didn't realize

547
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: that had happened until probably two hours actually after the race.

548
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: So to peel the curtain back here, Michael and I

549
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,719
Speaker 2: standing in the as per tradition, standing in the Albert

550
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Speaker 2: Park Media Center window watching the cars file out for

551
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Speaker 2: their practice starts on the reconnaissance laps, and then I

552
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: see the medical cargo barreling out and obviously because Oscar

553
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 2: Piastre has been on the way there. But what I

554
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: didn't see off the actual start of the race, because

555
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: I was too busy pecking words into my laptop at

556
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: the time about Oscar Piastre was the move of the

557
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 2: week is Franco Colopinto not completely rear ending Len Lawson

558
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 2: off the start line. And when you saw the replay

559
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: of that, you knew it was close by watching the

560
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: reaction of the podium finishes in the cooled down room afterwards,

561
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Speaker 2: where it's obviously the first time they had seen it

562
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Speaker 2: as well, and Liam Lawson's car just did not move

563
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Speaker 2: off the line. How Franco Colopinto missed Lawson, missed anyone

564
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Speaker 2: else and didn't hit the pitball on the inside. There's

565
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Speaker 2: a good fortune and good judgment, whatever you want to

566
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Speaker 2: describe it as. We avoided a very very nasty accident

567
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: through a bit of a stroke of luck. The move

568
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Speaker 2: of the week to me is Franco Colopinto's reflexes on

569
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: very limited evidence, very very well suited to driving in

570
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Speaker 2: Formula One, because when you saw that back on the

571
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Speaker 2: replay from multiple angles, I still can't believe those two

572
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Speaker 2: cars didn't make contact.

573
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Speaker 1: It is remarkable, isn't it. And I think you know,

574
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Speaker 1: I'm probably guilty of this as well. I was always

575
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Speaker 1: thinking we're talking about that. We've been talking about the

576
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Speaker 1: risk of the starts for quite a few weeks. Andrea

577
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Speaker 1: Staler was one of the few to really say we

578
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: need to think about this, but several others did. But

579
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Speaker 1: it was a lot of it was talked about because

580
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Speaker 1: the cars at the very back of the grid wouldn't

581
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Speaker 1: have the time to make their It was comical hearing

582
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: in real life at the first time their cars rev

583
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Speaker 1: up to maximum screaming for ten seconds off getting away

584
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Speaker 1: that because they'd arrived last, they wouldn't have the time

585
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Speaker 1: to do that, they'd probably get worse starts. But Lawson,

586
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Speaker 1: I think was eighth on the grid, thereabouts in the middle,

587
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Speaker 1: let's say, pretty much in the middle, which means that

588
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Speaker 1: by the time those guys who did start at the

589
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Speaker 1: back got going, they're already up to speed by the

590
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Speaker 1: time they get to laws them Like. It wasn't as

591
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Speaker 1: if it was a rear ending in your local shopping

592
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Speaker 1: car park. This would have been an enormous highway style accident.

593
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: And I think that suddenly, you know, maybe we're fortunate

594
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: that that's happened in that way, because it feels like

595
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: the lesson to be learned there is We've got to

596
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: take it seriously because we've got quite lucky to have

597
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: missed something that could have been more significant. So I

598
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: think that is a good call. I'm very happy with

599
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: that one. I'm going to go maybe even slightly more

600
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: left field than that is Move of the Week. I

601
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: was going to give it to Charlotte Clair for his

602
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: great off the start line threading of the needle, because

603
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Speaker 1: as good as the Ferrari car was. He also I

604
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: think didn't have very much battery power, so they're all

605
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: affected by not a lot of battery but just slicing

606
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Speaker 1: between Isaac Adder and George Russell. Needed a little bit

607
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: of cooperation or not silliness from those ahead, and he

608
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: did a good job. But I'm going to go and

609
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: give my move of the week I think to the

610
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Speaker 1: whole Aston Martin team, at least Fernando Alonso, but the

611
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: whole Aston Martin team for effortlessly I think shifting one

612
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the blame for their problems on to

613
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Speaker 1: Honda in weekend long campaign. Now let's look, let's up

614
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: there around the bush. Clearly the Hondre engines unreliability is

615
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: the first order problem of this car. I'm not sure

616
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: I believe what Adrian Nui and Fernando Alonso was saying,

617
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: which is if it had any other engine, essentially it

618
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: would be leading the race, so it'd be right at the front.

619
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: But we don't know, to be fair with them, we

620
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 1: don't know exactly how good it is because the end

621
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: keeps breaking down. But I just thought it was remarkable

622
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: how quickly, how quickly it went straight toward Honda's done it,

623
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: Adrian Nuei claiming that they didn't know Honda was behind

624
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: until visiting the factory last November, despite I think he

625
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: literally years of reporting rumors that Honda was behind, despite

626
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: him working for the previous Honda Works team at Red

627
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: Bull Racing and seeing them dissolve and reform. And then

628
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm just gone to try and find the quote from

629
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: Fernando Alonso after practice, when I think he completed a

630
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: grand total of something like that, didn't run an FP one,

631
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: not much learning, to be honest, he said, Unfortunately, and

632
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm adding a little bit of emphasis here, but if

633
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: you listen to audio, his emphasis also there. Unfortunately, the

634
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: Honda issue in FP one and some Honda issues as

635
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: well in FP two a little bit limited our number

636
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: of laps today, and that was not needed because we

637
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: need to recover, and then asked about his prospects for

638
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: the rest of the weekend, which actually competed more laps

639
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: in the race than I expected. Must be the nerve damage.

640
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just drive the car. It's more

641
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: of a question for Honda, and then said it was

642
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: disappointed that despite Honda supplying only one team they've run

643
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: out of parts already at round one. So move of

644
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: the week the blame goes to Honda.

645
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: Yes, they didn't so much just throw Honda under the bus.

646
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: They reversed the bus back over Honda several times on

647
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: the way out. But man, the comedy, the unintentional comedy

648
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: moment of the entire weekend was Adrian Neue's press conference

649
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: to talk about how bad things were Aston Martin and

650
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: Honda and the microphone that he was using just basically

651
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't work and just get falling over. It was an

652
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: absolute joke of a press conference. And yeah, we made

653
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: the very very unkind analogy on I think it was Thursday,

654
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: whatever day that was where the press Copperatece worked for

655
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: twenty minutes, which was probably more lapse. So we actually

656
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: figured that Aston Martin would go to do over the

657
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: course of the Grand Prix, Lancetroll had Lancetro was playing

658
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: a bit of cricket on the weekend that he did

659
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: a few laps. He came in and had a cup

660
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: of two, jumped out, they fixed a few things on

661
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: the car and then he went back out again. So

662
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: we've now got a mandatory beverage breaks in Formula one.

663
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: It is an absolute embarrassment for everything that's going on there.

664
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: No may whether you want to point the blame at

665
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: Aston Martin or hondro It or falls in the embarrassment basket.

666
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: It is pretty wifle.

667
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: It is great, but things can only well. I say

668
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: things can get better. Sometimes things gets worse before they

669
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: get better. Sometimes things get worse before they get worse.

670
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: So I'll have to wait and see how it goes

671
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: in Aston Martin. But let's get back to our lessons

672
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: from the Australian Grand Prix. Matt, what else did you

673
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 1: learn this weekend?

674
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: Let's go a little left field here. I wasn't one

675
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: hundred percent convinced about the whole avidlynd Blood thing. I've

676
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: got to be okay, very good in not necessarily because

677
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: I thought that he was worthy of being in Formula one.

678
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: But some times you see these guys in F two

679
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: and you're like, eh, you know, like there's something there,

680
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: but it's not super consistent. And he was incredibly impressive

681
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: with what he did on track. He was also incredibly

682
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: impressive with just how he handled the entire thing. You

683
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: have to remember he's eighteen years old, right, and I mean,

684
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: I know the grid Sku's younger, and these guys come

685
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: in so ready now you're not worried that they're going

686
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: to be some sort of risk to their rivals or

687
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: what have you. But I thought, you know, even obviously

688
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: Lawson had the compromise start, we never really got to

689
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: see how he was going to race, But I thought

690
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: Limblad was incredibly impressive given the complexity of driving these cars. Yes,

691
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: a track that he'd been on inn F two before,

692
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: but still it's a completely different challenge. I wasn't expecting

693
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: him to be terrible by any means, but he was

694
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: really really quite impressive given the stakes, his age, his experience,

695
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: And that car looked halfway decent, didn't it.

696
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it did. I think, as we mentioned, whether or

697
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: that's all power unit or the car actually just looks

698
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: a bit better put together than it certainly didn't testing.

699
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: In testing it was hard to place, I suppose, so

700
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: maybe it's just a somewhat obscure, but it looked arguably

701
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: near the head of the midfield. I think has probably

702
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: emerged front of the midfield by the end of the weekend,

703
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: but Racing Bulls was right there. Obviously. World Points contender.

704
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't thought. I thought you'd very well. I thought, also,

705
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: I've been a little bit skeptical of linn Blad's rapid

706
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: elevation to Formula one. I thought his F two season

707
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: last year was pretty ordinary. There is this vibe now

708
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: in F one that it's not F two results anymore,

709
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: it's about you. You get him in for practice, you

710
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: see how they go in a testing of a previous car,

711
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: and you read into that because F to become a

712
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: bit random, I guess, or that they were usually good

713
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: teams are not necessarily there anymore, or whatever the case.

714
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: That seems to be it. But nonetheless, it seems like

715
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: we know now there was some reporting, wasn't it, that

716
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: this was sort of helmet Marco's last action was to

717
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: unilaterally promote him when no one else at Red Bull

718
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: thought he was ready and so and then Hart Marco was.

719
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: He left in the commas. So I was a little

720
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: bit skeptical, and I thought, actually that meant there was

721
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: a bit of pressure on him to prove his elevation.

722
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: But on the evidence of the first weekend, I think

723
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: he did very well. I'd like you say, we are

724
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: missing that comparison with Lawson a little bit this weekend.

725
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: He was that qualified by Lawson, but not by much.

726
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: And Lawson will be a good bar you know. He's

727
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: a tough racer and he's pretty quick as well. But

728
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: I thought, considering he's also the only rookie, it's not

729
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: like last year we had six and it was all

730
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: you know, I think we were sort of anticipating a

731
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: tough ride for all of them and they could be

732
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: compared and whatever. I think he fit in pretty well

733
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: as a new guy on the grid.

734
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: He did. I was also pleased to know that we

735
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: had lots of it's Sussex versus Chelmsford commentary outside of

736
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: the outside of the top six, So add that to

737
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: your big go card for every coverage this year. Enjoyed

738
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: that took not but he was impressive. I wasn't expecting

739
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: him to be terrible by any means, but a victory

740
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: lap for Helbert Marco he might have to come back.

741
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: Yes, remarkable first race in probably twenty years without helmet

742
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: marker at the racetrack. Considering I don't think he ever

743
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: missed one time, so it was living with him. Not sure.

744
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: Well, a few journalists where he was giving you unscripted

745
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 2: soundbites and he wasn't supposed to be giving the journals,

746
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: but we wished that a little bit. But Red Bull

747
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, it's just odd when they turn up

748
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: to Melbourne and there's no Christian Order and there's no

749
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: helmet Marco and there's no I mean, there's another new

750
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: teammate for Max for Staffan, but that's not exactly new.

751
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: But it felt very very different.

752
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: Yes, well, let me give you one other lesson of mine,

753
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: and I thought felt very different. In a not unrelated note,

754
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: that the guy who's in the same car as Max

755
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: for Staffen did okay, which is real shock. Isaac hadja

756
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: from the beginning of the weekend, in fact looked like

757
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: he had a good handle on the car. And this

758
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: is important to say, not just in the context of

759
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: the previous how many were there three teammates in the

760
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: last twenty five weekends that a Max of Staffin had

761
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 1: three previous drivers occupants of that car struggling, but also

762
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: even in pre season testing, while there was no obvious

763
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: signs of struggle other than that crash in the rain

764
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: in Barcelona in what feels like one hundred years ago,

765
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: it was only about a month ago, I think, but

766
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: didn't ever really look like he was on the Staffan's

767
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: pace throughout testing. Perhaps he wasn't because of course, for

768
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: Stappen dropped the car in Q one, so there was

769
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: no direct comparison by the time Hadjo got to Q three.

770
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: But he got to Q three, which was very impressive.

771
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: He qualified right up the front on the second row,

772
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: had a shot at leading the race, but ran out

773
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: of batteries. Everyone seemed to now the run to the

774
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: first turn and was really right there in the opening

775
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: stage of the race. I don't know. He probably wouldn't

776
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: have finished on the podium. I suppose that seemed really

777
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: locked down by Ferrari the last opportunity there, but probably

778
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: would have finished a pretty comfortable fifth by the end

779
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: of the race. Would have been a really good start.

780
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: I wrote it after qualifying on the Fox Sports website.

781
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: That's the first time any Red Bull racing drivers qualified

782
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: so well that he isn't Maxi Stappen obviously. Since the

783
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: Azerbaijan Grand Prix of twenty twenty four, I think it

784
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: is you go to go really back all the way

785
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: to Sergeio prayers. I wish I had it open for

786
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: me now so I can get these stats real. It's crazy,

787
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: real good drought breakers that he achieved over the course

788
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: of qualified. Yeah, and important as well, just in the

789
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 1: context that we shouldn't forget what Red Bull Racing's doing there,

790
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: which is supporting maxwas staff at all costs and the

791
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: reason they have a second driver, Yes, it is because

792
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: they're bledsho under the rules, but they just want someone

793
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: there to pick up the pieces that Max might very

794
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: occasionally drop. This weekend, he dropped a lot of pieces.

795
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: He crashed, and Isaac Kadja did what Red Bull Racing

796
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: probably probably the maximum, let's be honest, for Red Bull

797
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: Racing by qualifying that car in the second drive.

798
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not a lot of requirements in that position description.

799
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 2: You know, if you're putting a job out there, really

800
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: it's just you know, just just be there with your

801
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: dustpad and brusher and just sweep up if maxwistab and

802
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: drops and he crumbs, and Isaac Kajar did that. Cathy third,

803
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: as you said, probably look like a nailed on top five,

804
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: but for the unreliability, really good sign. Also can't say

805
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: I'm super surprised with him because there's something something I

806
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: really enjoy about him is that he is his own

807
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: harshest critic in he holds himself incredibly accountable. And I've

808
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: felt how to say this diplomatically, Ah, let's just you

809
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: can you can rethrow my Deploymacy. The previous occupants of

810
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: that seat, shall we say, going back to back you

811
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: twenty four or whatever you were talking about it, it

812
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: always seemed to be something or somebody else's fault most

813
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: of the time. And I think that Isaac will probably

814
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: beat himself up a fair bit when things his fault,

815
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: and he probably also will do that when they're not.

816
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, really good sign for him. And yeah, I

817
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: really redbel might have two competent drivers in its car.

818
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: Imagine, yes, imagine, I mean we over the course of

819
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: this sort of review, it feels like we almost have

820
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: all top four teams with fully competent lineups this year,

821
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: which is really remarkable. I've pulled up those statistics for you.

822
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: Here go you like these an Anie could stat Isaac

823
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: Kadja is the first Red Bull Racing driver to qualify

824
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: inside the top ten on their debut since Max Forstaffan

825
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen at the Spanish from Prison.

826
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

827
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: Third on the grid is the best starting position for

828
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: the second Red Bull Racing cars in Sergio pairs at

829
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four Belgian Grand Pre nearly six hundred

830
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: days prior Wow, and it was the first time for

831
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: stap and had been quite out qualified by his teammates

832
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: since the twenty twenty four hours of by Jiangrandbrix. That's

833
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: what I was thinking of. So some long old droughts

834
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: broken by Isaac Cadja, which I think can only be

835
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: a good sign. I mean, touch wood. If there's any

836
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: new you right now, shame if you're in the car.

837
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: But it seems like a good sign for the start

838
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: of his Red Bull Racing career, which is good news

839
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: for that team as well as attempts to build itself

840
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: up under these rules. Matt, last lesson from you for

841
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: the weekend.

842
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 2: We're thirty eight minutes into this. I don't know whether

843
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: this is a lesson or a lament. Michael. Do we

844
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: have the Oscar Piastric conversation at this point because we

845
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: have with the Fox Sports we probably should, well we

846
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: probably should thirty eight minutes in and we've not really

847
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 2: mentioned him yet because of Yeah, it was I don't

848
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: think I've ever heard one hundred and thirty five thousand

849
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: people gasp and then be completely silent, or whatever the

850
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: crowd was onside that, I can't remember. At the same time,

851
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: it was astonishing what happened before the race. It would

852
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: have been a terrible set of circumstances at any race track,

853
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: but to do it in the first race of the season,

854
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: when you've just come off a season where you've led

855
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: for two thirds of it, and the amount the color

856
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: palette of Albert Park last weekend was so interesting, and

857
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: it was this mixture of green and gold and orange,

858
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 2: and then in an absolute instant, half an hour before

859
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: the race, it felt like everybody was inappropriately dressed. They

860
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: should have been in black because Albert Park was incomplete

861
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: morning at this point. There's a part of me that

862
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: still can't quite believe it. But I mean, where do

863
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: we unpick this, because it's not a matter of simply

864
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 2: pointing the finger at the car in this situation or

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Speaker 2: the driver. It was, unfortunately a bit of column at,

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Speaker 2: a bit of Columbarie, wasn't it. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think it was, which feels very uncharacteristic. Yes, you know,

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Speaker 1: you had such an uncharacteristic crash and qualifying from Max

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Speaker 1: and then backed it up with usually the rock solid,

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00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: dependable Osco Piastre. It's spinning out on the reconnaissance Lamb. Yes,

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00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: said there was a little bit of unexpected engine behavior,

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00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: but also you just on the curbs, and ultimately that's

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Speaker 1: down to him. If he wasn't on the curb, he

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00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't have crashed, notwithstanding out having used the curb for

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Speaker 1: pretty much every lap that he undertook at Albert Park.

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Speaker 1: Very unfortunate, very awkward. I was sure because of his

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Speaker 1: helmet for this weekend and there's a lot of bright

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Speaker 1: yellow or something on there. I'm sure it was Norris advice,

879
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: I possibly the Oscar, and then of course it was

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00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was just a little bit

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00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: of me preparing to cover my home race speaking there,

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Speaker 1: but that's what it looked like because of that helmet

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00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: to me. Anyway. I wonder if the lesson here though,

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00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: is yet to be learned. I mean, Oscar's certainly learned

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00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: some kind of lesson out of all of this, out

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00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: of the curbs maybe, but is that he will Well,

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00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: let's find out this is the lesson bounce back from this,

888
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: because It's remarkable, isn't it that much like last year?

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00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: He's going to start the season or round two with

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00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: practically no points. Last year exactly where I was going. Yeah, correct,

891
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: this year it's zero points. He's only I think it's

892
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: at ten points behind Lando Norris think he's got ten

893
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: points this week he did, but still of course twenty

894
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: five points behind tidally to a Drussell. And that's the

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Speaker 1: that we want to keep an eye on, at least

896
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: for now, until it becomes clear whether or not McLaren

897
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: is in the title fight or will be in the

898
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: title fight. But the lesson may be that he's got

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00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: to dig deep again. Last year he took the lead

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00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: by after the fifth round in Saudi Arabia, so who

901
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: took him four weekends to overhaul that twenty three point deficit.

902
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: It's obviously a very different context this year, but funny

903
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: that he should be engaging in the exact same sort

904
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: of comeback two years in a row.

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00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: Well, and the fact that we're going to Shanghai a

906
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: week after Melbourne that we did last year. He won

907
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: there last year. All of these analogous things you could

908
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: look at from twenty twenty five to twenty twenty six.

909
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: But the difference for me this time is that last

910
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 2: year he in McLaren were in a comfortable one too

911
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: last year and they were clearly the class of the field,

912
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: and at the end, towards the end of the race,

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Speaker 2: Norris survived a range shower and Piastre didn't necessarily and

914
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: drop down the order, but McLaren it was pretty clear

915
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 2: they had a significant advantage, so it looked like it

916
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: was going to be a race between the two of them.

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Speaker 2: We can't say that about McLaren right now for reasons

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Speaker 2: that we've discussed earlier this podcast. There's certainly not in

919
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: that position of ascendency yet and yet might be the

920
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: key word in that, because there's a big story to

921
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: unfold here, but I don't think it's all. Look, he

922
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: was the better of the two McLaren drivers the entire

923
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: weekend until we got to race Daty. He was faster

924
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: and every single practice session all the elements of qualified

925
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: higher on the grid. Norris just seemed. Norris wasn't quite

926
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: in for stappad level grumpy, but he was certainly grumpy

927
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 2: of the most about the cars, and obviously, when you've

928
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: come off a world championship. You've got the most to

929
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: lose if things aren't going your way. But it's not

930
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: all doom and gloom. But man, of all the races

931
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Speaker 2: to do that in, given the expectation and the build up,

932
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Speaker 2: and I mean, you know, you've been doing this event

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Speaker 2: for a million years. Same with me. I don't think

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Speaker 2: I've ever seen Daniel Ricardo was incredibly popular. Mark Webber

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Speaker 2: was popular for what if one was back in twenty

936
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: ten to twelve or thirteen. Whenever he finished, there was

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00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: something just different about the way that felt this weekend.

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Speaker 2: And to just see the air come out of the

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Speaker 2: balloon before the race even began and we didn't actually

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Speaker 2: get to see it play out, was a pretty disparting.

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Speaker 1: He's clearly collected a pretty broad constituency of fans. I

942
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: think Oscar Piastre there's nothing, there's nothing interesting about him.

943
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Speaker 1: So I think everyone not that there really was any

944
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: about Daniel Riccardo, either me, even Mark Weber. I guess,

945
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: but I guess generally the constituency of the sports audience

946
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: has changed as a result, as you say, And you know,

947
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: I got to admit the Orange and Green Caps they

948
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: kind of worked weally, those colors in my head don't work,

949
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: but I thought they looked good. So it's a shame

950
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: that they were all for nothing and the Australia curse continues.

951
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: We get to rupt about it again next year. Matt.

952
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: That's still no home podium at a World Championship Grand Prix,

953
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: sad state affairs. Also still no victories for Osco Piastree

954
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: since that Burger dearly did late last year to give

955
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: away free burgers.

956
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: Well that maybe maybe the real curse, maybe there's a

957
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: story and that he might need to go vegetaria or so.

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959
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,880
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00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,440
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961
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Speaker 1: email if you like, and just mentioned the podcast. But

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00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: at six pm on Sunday Eastern daylight time. As it

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Speaker 1: still is, there's also a sprint on Saturday at two

969
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: pm if you want extra racing, and who knows how

970
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,480
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Speaker 1: Clayton and me, Michael Lamonato. Thanks very much for your company.

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