1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: You start. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: Jason Lawrence P. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 3: Cheesy's in the house, Superintendent Wayne Cheese man our friendly 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 3: police office. 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 4: That morning. 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 5: Cheer Cheesy, Good morning. Everyone's been happening in the wild 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 5: western Melbourne. 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Same thing. Really, it's the police are still out there 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, arresting more than more people than ever. 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Good news is we've seized more knives than we ever have, 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: over fifteen thousand this year, So that is. 12 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 5: It's sort of good news but sort of bad news. 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 5: They're all out there, right, Yeah. 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: No, you're right. Anyone shouldn't be out there indeficially. 15 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 5: Is anyone putting their knives in those silly little bins? 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: There actually have been, really, there have been machetes. Has 17 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: been several thousand machetes handed in. I don't know whose hands, 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: I don't know the right people are handing them in. 19 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: But but and he's having an effect, believe it or not. 20 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 5: Great. 21 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: But these are the ones that the officers on the 22 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: beat seizing from people, right. 23 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: So these fifteen thousand are separate to the one. These 24 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: are the ones where we're doing search warrants and we're 25 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: searching people under our different powers and having quite a 26 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: bit of success. 27 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: Of One of the debates that's happening right now Cheese 28 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: is around Jack's Law, which is in Queensland, brought in 29 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: on the back of a horrendous death involving a teenager there. 30 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: It gives police the powers to wand wand people on 31 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: the streets. 32 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: Like a metal detechnique. 33 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: It's effectively what the state opposition is calling for the 34 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: government to bring in. Here would something like that change 35 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 2: the game? 36 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: So we have we have similar powers under what we 37 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: call these omni operations where we get areas declared so 38 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: we can we can have that leading up to protest 39 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: activity we have around the side. We are running that 40 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: operation in the CBD across the CBD for the next 41 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: six months leading up to Christmas in the new year, 42 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: because we know the influx of people and the influx 43 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: of young people into the. 44 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: City and you can just ward people occurring. 45 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we can if the area has been designated. 46 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: And is that where you're finding these kids that are 47 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: caring knives and stuff? Is a train station, a shopping centers, right, to. 48 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: Be honest, everywhere it's in shopping centers, it's in train stations, 49 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: it's in the streets, in schools. 50 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 6: And are they protesting, like we're not protesting in the 51 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 6: literal sense, But are they objective when you go up 52 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 6: to them and say, hey, we're going to search you. 53 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: No, they don't. It's a different culture now, so people 54 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: are a lot more confident around the police now. So 55 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: there is a there is a definite lack of respect 56 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: towards the police, and there's no fear of the police 57 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: probably like there was when I was younger. But generally 58 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: if we have the power, they comply. But generally they 59 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: know when we have power and when we don't, and 60 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: if we don't have it, they they know that. 61 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 4: They know they find. 62 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 6: A machete on someone, are they what's the consequence for 63 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 6: that person? 64 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: Well, it can be depending on their history and if 65 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: they're on bail and all this. But if it's just 66 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: a one off piece, I think it could be someone 67 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: to go to court down the track. 68 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: A lot of that confidence kids, especially even younger than sixteen, 69 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: have is because of how social media has empowered them. 70 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: Do you think in this is just a random question 71 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: of random thought, but the social media band which comes 72 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: in in what ten days time? I think eighteber ten yep, 73 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: will that have any impact? Do you think on how kids, 74 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: especially under sixteen are thinking and behaving potentially, because there 75 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: are a number when it comes to policing. 76 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: So there's no doubt that social media has influence and 77 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: there's a connection through social media. It's not always the 78 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: sites that are influencing. It can be the dialogue between people. 79 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: And what we're finding is there's a lot of networked 80 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: youth defending. So the networks talk together, not necessarily looking 81 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: at something on Instagram or on YouTube, but that definitely 82 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: does it. 83 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: But this could break a network potentially. 84 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: This could have an influence where probably it's not as 85 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: glorified some of the behaviors we're seeing. 86 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: Well, the videos that I see online of the kids 87 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: breaking into houses half the time, they're not even stealing anything. 88 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: They just want to go like, look, we're in someone's house, 89 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: waving a machete everywhere. 90 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,279 Speaker 5: It's like stupid, crazy, crazy. 91 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 3: Thirteen twenty four ten is our number. Cheesey's in the house. 92 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: Any questions, give us a ring. We're going to take 93 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: some calls and then Lauren's got something that we need a. 94 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: Question about Clint. 95 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 6: But before we get to Clint, I've got a quick 96 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 6: question for you, cheese Now we have cameras in our house, 97 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 6: like oh sorry, on the outside of our house like 98 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 6: many people, and we get a little thing that sets off. 99 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 6: We've got like a little sectioned off area, and we 100 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 6: get a little notification on our phone if there's an 101 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 6: intruder that comes up intruder. And the other day I 102 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 6: got a thing saying intruder alert, and it was we've 103 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 6: got some flats next to us, and it was a 104 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 6: guy who had run and jumped their back fence like 105 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 6: he'd clearly had he was in a rush to get 106 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 6: away from someone. And with this vision of this guy 107 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 6: who looked like he'd just robbed someone's house or done something, 108 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 6: but he hadn't done anything to our house, what should 109 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 6: I do with that vision? Should I go to my 110 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 6: local police station and say, I don't know if this 111 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 6: is going to be helpful to you, but this guy's 112 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 6: clearly on the run from someone. 113 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: He had a backpack full of stuff, So I guess 114 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: anything can help if there's an investigation going on. So 115 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: you could ring your local police station and say, my 116 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: alarm was triggered. I have some vision. If it's of 117 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: interest to anyone, here's my number. 118 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 4: Let me know. 119 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: We can then do some internal comms. We will know 120 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: what's going on in the area, so it could be helpful. 121 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 5: So always hand that over. 122 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 4: If we have your partner. More cop would have been 123 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: all over it. 124 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 5: He called me more cop persistent when. 125 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 4: You sounded like Paul just then. 126 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: But I guess to your point, if there was a 127 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: report from a neighbor of a breaking enter or something 128 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: that aid that investigation, definitely help you. 129 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 5: She was climbing over a back fence into a lane 130 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 5: way with the. 131 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 4: Bag falls thirteen twenty four ten. 132 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: If you got a question for the cheese, what's Clinton? 133 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 5: Healks kind of funny. 134 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 6: He called me yesterday in an absolute flap cheese and 135 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 6: he was driving down highway to Geelong and there's all 136 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 6: the cameras, some of them are attached to bridge, and 137 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 6: there's some free standing ones. 138 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 5: And he called me and said, hey, Loss, this is. 139 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: Your area, isn't it. That's your sort of hood. 140 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 6: You know those cameras highway. 141 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 4: Just because he's your friend. He's not here to are they. 142 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 6: Filming inside the car? I said, oh, it depends. I 143 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 6: think the ones on the bridge is a speed cameras. 144 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 6: And he goes so glasy he goes because I was 145 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 6: eating some pineapple out of the tub, and I'm a 146 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 6: bit concerned that I'll be charged as a distracted driver. 147 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 6: Am I allowed to be eating while I'm driving? And 148 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 6: I said, oh, cheese is in tomorrow? 149 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 5: We'll ask him. That's so embarrassing you won't text me. 150 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: But it's a good question. Can I be charged or 151 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: fined with eating pineapple behind the wheel? 152 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 1: So you there's two parts to it. No, you would 153 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: be very you will not be charging eating food in 154 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: the car or having a drink or whatever. But if 155 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: you had too handfuls of pineapple and you were steering 156 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: with your knees rexample, if you could get charged with 157 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 1: careless driving, right. 158 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: But if you're getting a massive accident and it was 159 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: because you dropped bloody kebab sauce on you and look down. 160 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: Then it could be declared careless. 161 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 6: Yeah rightch cabab is too hard to eat in the car, that's. 162 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: Care cheesehe no going? You be the new campaign of 163 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: a Christmas no go. 164 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: Little cheeseburger is fine, right, Little Cheeseburger's time, little cheap 165 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: that's a too bad job. 166 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 5: And then you're asking the cheese man. 167 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: Cheese Superintendent Wayne Cheeseman is in the house. We're doing 168 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: pray the paper this morning. Hey Cheesey, thanks for coming 169 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: in pleasure. 170 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 4: Is this last time I got cheesy? This is the 171 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: last time I got Cheesey in this ship mate. 172 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: Thank you. 173 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 4: You have been the best addition to this show. We 174 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 4: love having you on me. 175 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: Can I just say to everyone who's been listening on 176 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: the community and to you and your team, Merry Christmas, 177 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: Happy New Year. Thanks for all the support you give 178 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: to Victoria Police. It's really refreshing. It's really nice, and 179 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of everybody, but I wish you were a 180 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: safe and happy New Year. 181 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 4: Christ and all the best everyone. 182 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 5: You next year, yes, will you come back? 183 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're back next year. 184 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: I'm driving in here and bloody Rachel and ross across 185 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: the road and they go, jesus here, I'll be like, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yes, 186 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: it has just gone a minute, all right, Jason. 187 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 5: Lauren Lauren wake up feeling good. Following them on the socials, 188 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 5: m