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Speaker 1: This is the Fits In with Kate Richie podcast. We

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Speaker 1: had an incredible chat on the show yesterday. We had

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Speaker 1: the pleasure of an amazing guest, doctor Vince Hurley. He is,

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Speaker 1: of course the man that we saw and that everybody

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Speaker 1: hopefully saw on Q and A earlier in the week.

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Speaker 1: He had some very strong opinions, highly educated opinions.

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Speaker 2: Man, we need to listen to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's a criminologist at Macquarie University. If you

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Speaker 1: did miss the chat, I really encourage you to go

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Speaker 1: and have a listen with There's an extended podcast that

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Speaker 1: you can find. But before we ended our chat with

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Speaker 1: him yesterday, he had some really important things to say too,

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Speaker 1: or messages to women and family. This was it here.

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Speaker 3: I would just like to say to all girls and

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Speaker 3: women out there listening that there are people in society

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Speaker 3: that love and care for you.

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Speaker 2: And no matter how hard.

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Speaker 3: It might be to break that bond, you and your

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Speaker 3: children deserve far better.

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Speaker 1: I keep seeing the faces of women on the front

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Speaker 1: of the newspaper. Who sorry that I keep seeing the

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Speaker 1: It's just upset, I understand, and I'm just sorry.

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Speaker 3: Is that.

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Speaker 1: Is that what encourages? What? Sorry? What encourages a woman

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Speaker 1: to do what it is she should do, or what

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Speaker 1: we all think that she should do, is stand up

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Speaker 1: to the offender to keep herself safe, and then by

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Speaker 1: doing that she becomes less safe. Yeah, exactly, And I

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Speaker 1: just hope that people listening, you know, there's always this

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Speaker 1: discussion about I can't believe that that person would stay

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Speaker 1: with that person, or why don't they just up and go. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that any of the news that we've

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Speaker 1: seen lately about women being attacked by their ex partner

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Speaker 1: and not the amount of support that they need to

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Speaker 1: make the right decision for themselves and for their family

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Speaker 1: because they absolutely it's their God given right to feel safe.

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Speaker 1: Don't ever, don't ever question why somebody stays with somebody.

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Speaker 2: You did such a great job.

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Speaker 1: Oh it was so easy being guided by someone who

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Speaker 1: knew exactly what they were talking about.

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Speaker 3: Pet was incredible, extremely brave by you, Kate to you know,

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Speaker 3: show us that emotion and look, I also want to

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Speaker 3: apologize yesterday as well, and a lot of people made

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Speaker 3: me aware in that chat because I was asking, and

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Speaker 3: I know that this is a chat that you'll be

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Speaker 3: having with your daughter may very soon about you know,

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Speaker 3: even you know, leading her out in public, you know,

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Speaker 3: with what's going on at the moment, Kate. But I

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Speaker 3: totally understand, and a lot of people made me aware

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Speaker 3: that the number one chat that I should be having

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Speaker 3: is with my two boys. And I totally understand that

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Speaker 3: we are having that. My wife and I, Belinda, are

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Speaker 3: sitting down with the boys. It's actually, do you know.

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 3: We received an email from Houston's High School with the

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Speaker 3: Right Journey and the passage and they said, you know,

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Speaker 3: these are some of the points that you can sit

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Speaker 3: down with your boys to talk about. But that is

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Speaker 3: the number one issue at the moment. Is incredible that

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Speaker 3: males now need to talk to each other about this.

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Speaker 3: We need to get on the front foot because women

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Speaker 3: have been screaming out for this for so long, for

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Speaker 3: so long, and no one has been listening. So fellas

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Speaker 3: you need to stand up. You need to be a

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Speaker 3: man and talk to friends. And if you know about

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Speaker 3: stuff like this, you need to do something about it.

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Speaker 2: I think fits. I mean, I step back when you

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Speaker 2: say apology because I don't think it's an apology required

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Speaker 2: from you, because I think, like all of us, especially

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Speaker 2: in my position, I'm learning. I'm learning at one hundred

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Speaker 2: miles an hour, and I think everybody, as this conversation continues,

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Speaker 2: is in the same boat. We're all gaining understanding, and

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Speaker 2: I suppose it's sometimes it feels like it's too late

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Speaker 2: and we should have thought about this earlier and there

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Speaker 2: should have been great at consideration earlier. But we're all

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Speaker 2: piecing this together, which is so crucial at the moment.

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Speaker 3: So, well, it's the big thing now, right, Okay, So

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Speaker 3: awareness is there? This is the most awareness that we've

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Speaker 3: known about violence towards women, I think ever in the

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Speaker 3: whole debate that we've had.

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Speaker 1: Kate, Well, it's certainly the most we've been talking about

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Speaker 1: it and being allowed to talk about it and say

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Speaker 1: it loudly.

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Speaker 3: You get doctor Vince on yesterday, Kay, And this is

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Speaker 3: the thing. This man made more sense in two minutes

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Speaker 3: on Q and A. But where do we go from here? Okay?

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Speaker 3: So Anthony Alberanezi now is now going to spend a

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Speaker 3: billion dollars over the next five years, But are they

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Speaker 3: going to take it a step further? And we talk

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Speaker 3: about politicking all the time, but you know what, if

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Speaker 3: you want to stay in power, mister ALBERSI. I think

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Speaker 3: you and your government you have a great opportunity here

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Speaker 3: to make a difference, to make a real difference. And

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Speaker 3: we'll be watching you over the next few years.

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