1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: Today on Fear and Greed. Exit polls suggest that there's 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: an early swing to the ALP in pre poll voting, 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: BHP searches for a new CEO and the real meaning 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: of ANZAC Day. Welcome to Fear and Greed Daily business 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: news for people who make their own decisions. It is Friday, 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: the twenty fifth of April twenty twenty five. ANZAC Day. 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Are Michael Thompson and Good Morning Sean Aylmer. 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Good morning Michael, Sean. 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: It is a shorter show this morning as we observe 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: ANZAC Day. The main story. The early polling signs for 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: the federal opposition are not particularly. 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: Good, not at all. One million people voted in the 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: first two days in pre polling. Early exit polls conducted 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: by news Corps suggest a swing towards the government of 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: four percent. The most likely result until now has been 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: a minority government, but with you know, a million Australians 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: having voted and that sort of swing, there is a 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: real chance of a majority government. News Corps surveyed four 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: thousand people in nineteen battleground states in all jurisdictions except 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: Western Australia and the Australian Capital Territory. They basically did 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 2: two hundred people in each of those nineteen battleground electorates. 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 2: So I said, states deny meant electorates nineteen battleground electorates 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: two hundred and each, and they saw this massive swing 24 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: to the LP. Now early days and one sort of 25 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: exit poll does not make an election. However, the signs 26 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: are not at all positive for the opposition. 27 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: No, certainly not. The other interesting thing in all of 28 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: that is just how many people have taken advantage of 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: pre poll voting. Because one million people and maybe it's 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: the fact that in different parts of the country there 31 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: are school holidays on at the moment, so people are 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: kind of maybe working different routines and able to get 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: in and vote early. But a million people. 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: I would have thought schooldays would actually play down. I 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: mean you would think that people would wait for polling 36 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: day because they're on holidays. Yet a million people and 37 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: that was the first two days, so we had yesterday 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: as well. 39 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: That is staggering, enormous, enormous. And still on politics, Labor 40 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: has promised to establish a critical minerals reserve as leverage 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: with the Trump administration over tariffs. This is interesting. 42 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: Australia will spend one point two billion dollars establishing a 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 2: national stockpile of minerals needed in products as diverse as 44 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: electric batteries, computers, military equipment, et cetera. Now, the globe generally, 45 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: the White House specifically, but the globe generally is trying 46 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: to break China's strangle hold over global supplies of many, 47 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: many of these critical minerals. Australia has a stack of them, 48 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: and Prime Minister Anthony Albernezi is basically saying, well, we 49 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: have a competitive advantage here. Thus I'm going to establish 50 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: a critical Minerals strategic reserve to purchase and whole minerals 51 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: like lithium, rare earths, nickel, cobalt, graphite, that will be 52 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: done via special agreements with local producers. It's strategically quite significant. Now, 53 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: oppositionally a Petter Dutton. He didn't to be honest, he said, 54 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 2: he said, I was just re announcing an old policy, 55 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: which might be right. He isn't exactly against it, so 56 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: he mean he didn't come out and say no, that's 57 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: a dumb policy or any stretch. I think the strategy 58 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: behind it, I think both sides of politics see these 59 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: importance in that. 60 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, they would both probably agree that it is sound. 61 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: How did local markets perform yesterday after a fairly good 62 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: night on Wall Street? 63 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, the S and PA s X two hundred hell 64 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: on to its gains of Wednesday to close up more 65 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: than half a percent, just under seventy eight h sorry, 66 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: just under eight thousand points. The uranium stocks Paladin and 67 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: Energy dbla best name stock on the Yes, mind your 68 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: boss Energy is another uranium stock like that one. 69 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: Tough. 70 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: They all did well. The energy companies were among the worst. 71 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: Woodside was down a couple of percent. Healthcare and materials 72 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: companies Brace did well. If you look at the large caps, Westpac, 73 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: ain Z, Mcquarie, and Rio all up around one percent. 74 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: Wiset Global jump three percent for the three days of 75 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: trading this week, The Boss was up more than two percent, 76 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: the best weekly gain this year. You mentioned Wall Street. 77 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: It did follow a very strong not on Wall Street. Now, 78 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal en Reuter's were reporting that the 79 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: Trump administration is looking at lurering Tarretts on imported Chinese 80 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: goods pending talks with Beijing. The numbers they're talking about, 81 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: it's fifty to sixty five percent. Good news for financial markets. 82 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: If that happens, Yeah, absolutely, all right, We've still got 83 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: a bit to cover. It is a shorter show today, Sean, 84 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: and no newsletter today as well, no Fear and Greed 85 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: daily newsletter. But it will be back on Monday and 86 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: back every day well forever forever. Basically it goes on 87 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: for eternity. So if you haven't signed up had Along 88 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: to Fearangreed dot com today, you pop your email addressing 89 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: and you'll get that on Monday, Sean. We'll be back 90 00:04:51,720 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 1: in a moment with the rest of the day's business news, Sean. 91 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: BHP will soon start a search for a new chief executive, 92 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: with kee lieutenants already jostling for position to succeed Boss 93 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: Mike Henry at the top of the world's biggest minor. 94 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: The understanding at bhps that Henry is now heading towards 95 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: the end of his tenure, according to company insiders, as 96 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: reported by Bloomberg. They emphasized that no decision has been 97 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: made Bloomberg's reporting that a change could come as soon 98 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: as early next year. The internal front runners of the 99 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: role seemed to be Geraldine Slattery, who heads the company's 100 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: Australian minds, chief financial officer of Vandita Pant, a guest 101 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: on our show previously, and ragna Ud, who runs the 102 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: commercial team. The chief executive search will also include external candidates, 103 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: no doubt, but I think running BHP, in perhaps running CBA, 104 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 2: they are the two blue ribbon jobs in corporate Australia. 105 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Henry has done this since the start of 106 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. How successful would you raise his time? 107 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: That's a tricky question because it's been through a lot 108 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: of Like they tried to take a couple of companies 109 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: in Anglo American didn't come off. They did take over 110 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: OZ Minerals, so that worked. Commodity prices have fallen. Their 111 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 2: BHP really rises and falls on commodity prices. If you 112 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: do it purely on share price terms, you would not 113 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: say Mike Henry. It's necessarily been one of the best CEOs, 114 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: but he certainly held the company together through a difficult patch. 115 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Indeed. Now, sleep device maker ResMed says it has 116 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: received an exemption from Donald Trump's trade tariffs, sending its 117 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: share price up eight percent. 118 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: It means it's exports for manufacturing hubs in Australia and 119 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: Singapore will dodge the trade War Chief executive Mick Farrell 120 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: conceded nothing was certain under the current US administration, and 121 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: the company is doubling its US manufacturing footprint with a 122 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: new plant in California in case it also ResMed also 123 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: outlined a slightly disappointing earning's result for the March quarter, 124 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: but the idea that it would escape tariffs was what 125 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 2: put a rocket under its share price. 126 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: Now, of course, it is ANTAC Day today, Sean, and 127 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: you might be listening to this on the way to 128 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: a dawn service as a day that has a very 129 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: special meaning for a lot of Australians. It's one hundred 130 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: and nine years old, though commemorates the Australian and New 131 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: Zealand Soldiers expedition that set out to capture the Gallipoli 132 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: Peninsula in nineteen to fifteen. 133 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and ten years ago. It's part of 134 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: Australian law. A few other things would match it. ANZAC, 135 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: of course, stands for the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps. 136 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: Typically it starts with a commemorative service at dawn. Now 137 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: the reason is at dawn because that was the attack 138 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: time at Glipoli. Includes famous the Anzac biscuits my favorite 139 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: growing up oatmeal. They Anac biscuits were originally square, you know, 140 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: I didn't know that now around roundish and of course 141 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: ends with the traditional game of two up. The last 142 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: surviving Anzac was Alexander William Campbell, who passed away on 143 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: sixteen May two thousand and two. Unlike other countries engaged 144 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: in World War One, conscription wasn't introduced into Australia, So 145 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: all Australians who fought in World War One and that 146 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: Glipoli were volunteers. And I think that, in a sense 147 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: is why we hold the day so, dear tourist, it 148 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: was actually people putting their hand up, volunteering to go 149 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: and take on the enemy. 150 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: Turning into international news now, Sean, and I mean, obviously 151 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about Anzac Day, but it's just reminded that 152 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: conflict are still kind of raging elsewhere in the world. 153 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: Russian air strikes targeting Kiev killed at least nine people 154 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: into more than seventy others yesterday and the deadliest and 155 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: the largest bombardments of the Ukrainian capital in months now. 156 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 2: Ukraine State Emergency Service said forty two people were hospitalized, 157 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: including six children after ballistic missiles and drones struck apartment 158 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: buildings in Kiev, home to nearly four million residents. According 159 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 2: to the Financial Times, strikes also hit several other cities 160 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: across seven regions in the country. The attacks came a 161 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: day after President Donald Trump admonished Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski 162 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: for refusing to make concessions to secure peace and go 163 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: along with a proposal for the US to recognize Russia's 164 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: occupation of Crimea, the Black Sea peninsula that Moscow annexed 165 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen. 166 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: Finally, sewan Nesla, the world's biggest food company, is booming 167 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: on the back of higher chocolate and coffee prices, with 168 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: the Swiss Group saying sales in the March quarter were 169 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: higher than expected. 170 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: So organic sales are up only two point eight percent 171 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: as in but that's a lot higher than forecasts. And 172 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: when we are talking about tens of billions of dollars 173 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: two point eight percent, there's a lot of money chunk 174 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: where it all comes from. Well, confectionery chocolate up nine percent, 175 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: fair coffee five percent. Now this comes on the top 176 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: of record prices for cocoa beans and coffee, and I think 177 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: coffee is it's close to oric. I can't think of 178 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: the top of my head, Michael, which one it is. 179 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: Nesle's interesting company. It's Swiss based. Up share price up 180 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: to seventeen percent this year. It's been one of the 181 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: real boom companies in that food sector, and mostly on 182 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: the back of coffee and chocolate. 183 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: Sean, your interview today is coming up next in the 184 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: Fear and Greed playlist. It is actually a conversation that 185 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: we recorded two years ago now and published it then 186 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: and we haven't released it again since then, but it 187 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: is worth revisiting today. You're speaking with Matt McLaughlin who 188 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: runs a company called Matt McLachlan Battlefield Tours, and it 189 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: is just such an interesting conversation about taking people around 190 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: the world to all of these locations, to the Western Front, 191 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: to Gallipoli of course, and the significance of it and 192 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: why people almost feel the need to do a pilgrimage. 193 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it's very spiritual. 194 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And it's a really really powerful conversation. Well 195 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: worth a listener at some point today if you get 196 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: a chance just to have a listen to that one. 197 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: It is coming up next in the Fear and Greed 198 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: playlist or you can find it at the website Fearangreed 199 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: dot com dot au. Thank you very much, Sean, Thank you, Michael. 200 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: It is Friday, the twenty fifth of April twenty twenty five. 201 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: Make sure you're following the podcast and enjoined us online 202 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: of course, on LinkedIn, Instagram, x TikTok and Facebook. I'm 203 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: Michael Thompson and that was Fear and Greed. Have a 204 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: great day.