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Speaker 1: Having a look at the the state budget handed down

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Speaker 1: by Stephen Mulligan yesterday, Miranda Starky CEO Counsel of the

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Speaker 1: Aging and she joins me, now, Miranda, good morning, Good morning, Matthew.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on it for older South Australians.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, you know we're obviously the cost of living

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Speaker 2: is what you know, the treasure is announced and I

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Speaker 2: think anyone that receives an extra cost of living concession

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Speaker 2: is going to be pleased to get that money in

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Speaker 2: their bank account when they weren't expecting it. So that

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Speaker 2: extra two hundred and forty three dollars and ninety cents,

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Speaker 2: but you know, the feedback that we're already seeing from

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Speaker 2: older South Australians to Kosher Essay is that that's not

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Speaker 2: going to touch the side. So you know, when when

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Speaker 2: the federal budget announced the three hundred dollars energy rebate

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Speaker 2: last month, people knew that that was less than was

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Speaker 2: provided last year and they were looking to see what

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Speaker 2: the state government would do. So Stective lead, this extra

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Speaker 2: two hundred and forty three dollars compared to five hundred

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Speaker 2: dollars last year is really just pretty much the same

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Speaker 2: level that older people on those low incomes and fixed

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Speaker 2: incomes and pensions and concessions. That's sort of what they

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Speaker 2: got last year. But meanwhile, all of the energy bills

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Speaker 2: have gone up. Growthery costs have gone up, fuel prices

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Speaker 2: have gone up. So people are already doing their sums.

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Speaker 2: They can see that it's maybe not letting them get ahead,

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Speaker 2: but no one wants to look a gift hors in

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Speaker 2: the mouth, and that's the feedback they're getting.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing, isn't it. I mean, two hundred

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Speaker 1: bucks at the end of the day, that's right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So it is coming. Yeah, but not enough, you say,

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Speaker 1: and still going to leave people short, especially your point

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Speaker 1: to the fact bills have gone up. Now, okay, electricity

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Speaker 1: bills are set to decrease a little, but everything else

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Speaker 1: has gone up as well, so that's going to be

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Speaker 1: eaten up very quickly.

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Speaker 2: Look, the advantage, at least of getting a lun sum

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Speaker 2: cash amount in your bank account is that you can

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Speaker 2: decide where it's most needed. So we did hear after

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Speaker 2: the federal budget some people would have preferred to not

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Speaker 2: have that off their electricity bill. They needed on their

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Speaker 2: gas bills, for example, So this at least gives people

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Speaker 2: or off their council rates, So this gives people the

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Speaker 2: chance to make those decisions about where it's most going

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Speaker 2: to be needed. I think we were disappointed to see

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Speaker 2: that there wasn't more investment in public housing. We would

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Speaker 2: have liked to see more for older people living in

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Speaker 2: country essay. I think that they might feel that they've

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Speaker 2: missed out again on measures that are going to make

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Speaker 2: a difference to their ability to age well in their regions.

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Speaker 2: We were really pleased for Matthew to see more investment

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Speaker 2: in ambulances, but particularly in the electronic patients management system.

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Speaker 2: This is very much long overdue. In South Australia, we've

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Speaker 2: had a clipboard system and a paper based records system

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Speaker 2: that our AMBOS has been using, while other states in

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Speaker 2: Australia are using live linked electronics records systems. So this

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Speaker 2: is finally going to bring us into the twenty first century.

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Speaker 2: And let's hope it also makes a difference to ramping

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Speaker 2: because we're going to be able to be more efficient,

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Speaker 2: better at triaging, better at understanding who that patient is

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Speaker 2: that's been looked after by paramedics. So we had been

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Speaker 2: advocating for this and we're really pleased to see that

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Speaker 2: it's been invested in.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that means once the ambulance gets to the hospital,

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Speaker 1: the records transfer automatically presumably, well, it.

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Speaker 2: Means that when the paramedics go to help someone, they

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Speaker 2: can instantly understand who that person is. They're linking into

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good thing. We've spoken about ambulances before.

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Speaker 1: You were hoping to have free ambulance cover for people

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Speaker 1: on the pension, Yes.

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Speaker 2: And we're really disappointed that that's been overlooked yet again.

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Speaker 2: Coda Essay has been calling for this for a long

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Speaker 2: time now. South Australia is the most expensive place to

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Speaker 2: live if you're an age pench and you need an ambulance.

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Speaker 2: In six states and territories it is completely free for

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Speaker 2: pensioners and we will keep advocating for this to be

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Speaker 2: brought in. In terms of the investment each year, it

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Speaker 2: about some of the other spending that goes on, and

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Speaker 2: we've just talked about how pensioners are feeling the tinch

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Speaker 2: and it's hard to make ends meat when you get

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Speaker 2: a big thousand dollars ambulance bill, you know, it can

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Speaker 2: of older people who need ambulances more than once.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. And public housing the other issue. Look, there's

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, we joined with Stay Costs in saying that

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Speaker 2: a thousand public housing properties a year is what we

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Speaker 2: need to be investing in and building in order to

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Speaker 2: meet the demand. You know. So we know, and I'm

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Speaker 2: fifteen or twenty years we have heard. So this is

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Speaker 2: this is a really serious problem. We need to be

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Speaker 2: putting major investment in and major numbers. We acknowledge that

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Speaker 2: there are a few hundred houses that are being added

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Speaker 2: through the development that's seating and no longer it's not

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Speaker 2: enough yet, it's not enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so more to be done there too, Miranda,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your insights. Thank for that this morning

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Miranda Starkey, CEO Council of the Aging Charles

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Speaker 1: Mountain RAA Senior manager of Safety and Infrastructure on roads

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Speaker 1: and everything else. Good morning, Charles. Are you happy with

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Speaker 1: what's in the budget?

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Speaker 3: Willie Matthew, Look, there were some good announcements in summary.

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Speaker 3: The ones that we particularly noted were the ten million

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Speaker 3: important first step to looking at extending our existing rail

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Speaker 3: developing metropolitan Adelaide the Riverland. There was a twenty million

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Speaker 3: another flooding episode coming into subsequent years. I'm also thirty

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Speaker 3: South Road. That's really were most welcome for people who

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Speaker 3: Nonetheless because that important corridor. The other one I think

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Speaker 1: We spoke just the other day about duplication, duplicating some

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Speaker 1: of the highways and no money for that.

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Speaker 3: No, there hasn't been, so that's obviously going to there's

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Speaker 3: something we'll have to continue to advocate for. I mean,

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, we understand these are

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Speaker 3: long tail projects, but it's obviously very critical that there

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Speaker 3: that groundwork done first up. In the same way that

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Speaker 3: there was a ten million dollars allocated for the Northern

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Speaker 1: All right. Another issue, Well, if I can just go

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Speaker 1: back to the railway for a sec you talk about

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Speaker 1: there's a report that was done by the Member for

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Speaker 1: Light in fact, Tony Piccolo on the future of the

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Speaker 1: But unless the government decides it wants to go ahead

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Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. So I mean the first step

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Speaker 3: So we've obviously been pushing to extend the line down

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Speaker 3: as I said, that key planning element that has to

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Speaker 1: The backlog of road maintenance. Charles, you've touched on this,

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Speaker 3: Well, I suppose that's the challenge. We've seen some investment

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Speaker 1: Somebody texting on the text line saying not much for

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Speaker 3: Yet that we do know. There is a big plan

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Speaker 3: really wherever we're seeing new land releases and developments, the

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Speaker 3: I mean the one just while we're talking public transport.

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Speaker 3: look at ways to decarbonize the bus and rail fleet.

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Speaker 3: I think that's really important part ultimately that will improve

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Speaker 3: that has not only environmental benefits, but because also amanity

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Speaker 3: benefits to in terms of reduced fumes and vibration and noise,

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Speaker 3: particularly for buses that throw up and down the residential streets.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, I appreciate time, Charles, Thank you, Thanks makin Charles

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Speaker 1: Mountain there Ura Senior Manager Safety and Infrastructure. Will Frogly,

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Speaker 1: CEO Master Builders, say morning, Will. I saw you on

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Speaker 1: the news the other day. You couldn't get the smile

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Speaker 1: off your face. Couldn't wipe that off at all with

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Speaker 1: the announcement out at Seaton.

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Speaker 4: Gitty. Absolutely, Matthew, That's something I've been campaigning for from

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Speaker 4: pretty much day one when I started at Master Buildings Association,

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Speaker 4: so I was obviously thrilled to see that announcement. It's

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Speaker 4: something that I've been discussing with the Premier and Treasure

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Speaker 4: of dating back to when they're in opposition, and that

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Speaker 4: was a really great result. I mean, for me, the

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Speaker 4: budget was really a solid one with no nasty surprises.

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Speaker 4: I've been I've been going to these budget lock ups

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Speaker 4: for years and trust me, there's nothing worse than going

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Speaker 4: in there and being blindsided by some great vick new

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Speaker 4: tax hike or something of that nature that you know

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Speaker 4: is going to do a lot of damage to you industry.

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Speaker 4: So from that, from that perspective, it was just a good,

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Speaker 4: solid budget. And you know, there's our industry is a

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Speaker 4: massive industry. Were directly employee more than eighty thousand South

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Speaker 4: Australians and I think budget days are a reminder of

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Speaker 4: how many areas of the state we tached, because for example,

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Speaker 4: if there's a new school to be built, that's going

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Speaker 4: to employ people, public housing, skills, whatever it might be.

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Speaker 4: So really for me, the budget focused heavily on three

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Speaker 4: key areas, health of course, but also housing and skills.

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Speaker 4: There was I think about eight hundred and forty million

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Speaker 4: allocated housing to boost supply and improve affordability. Stamp gu

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Speaker 4: was obviously a massive wind, but then there were those

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Speaker 4: very significant announcements around Seat and then also down at Norlanger,

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Speaker 4: which was really good to see. You know, a bolishing

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Speaker 4: stamp duty for first home buyers is a big help,

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Speaker 4: but there's no silver bullet in fixing this housing crisis.

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of different factors that are combining

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Speaker 4: to put pressure on prices and really significant investment in water,

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Speaker 4: sewage and other infrastructures really needed for those greenfield developments,

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Speaker 4: particularly in Northern Adelaide, and we expect to see more

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Speaker 4: clarity around that when the state government's housing roadmaps announced

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Speaker 4: in the couple of weeks, so we're really looking forward

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Speaker 4: to some clarity there. You know, those your last person

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Speaker 4: you interviewed made some really good points about the need

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Speaker 4: to coordinated infrastructure planning, so there was some stuff in

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Speaker 4: there about looking what they're going to do out North,

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Speaker 4: which is going to be a big help, but a

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Speaker 4: really big obvious question as well as who's going to

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Speaker 4: build all these homes. You and I, Matthew, we've discussed

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Speaker 4: on numerous occasions that trade is shortage. It's real, and

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Speaker 4: it's not going away anytime soon. There's a massive two

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Speaker 4: point three billion dollars allocate for skills, and it's really

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Speaker 4: important that that funding is maximized. A lot of money

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Speaker 4: is being spent to attract people into apprenticeships, but the

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Speaker 4: completion rates are still pretty poor, and master builders would

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Speaker 4: really like to see a lot of that money allocate,

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Speaker 4: or significant amount of that money allocated to helping mature

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Speaker 4: age south astrange into the industry. So a mature age

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Speaker 4: person counts as twenty one and over, and once they've

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Speaker 4: become twenty one, they've become a lot more expensive to

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Speaker 4: employers and apprentice So we know that every single day

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Speaker 4: southat who don't need to be convinced to learn a trade,

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Speaker 4: they really they've made up their minds and they want

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Speaker 4: to learn a trade of being turned away because they're

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Speaker 4: seen as too old and too expensive. At twenty one plus,

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Speaker 4: we think in the middle of a massive skill shortage,

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Speaker 4: as a travesty. So I think that's a really good

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Speaker 4: opportunity there.

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Speaker 1: All right, public housing and of course same deal you

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Speaker 1: need trade is to build them. But quite a number

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Speaker 1: of groups saying disappointing to see not much more being

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Speaker 1: done in terms of public housing. We need much more

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Speaker 1: of it. But again who's going to build them is

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Speaker 1: the key issue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously Massfield supports construction of public housing. I think

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Speaker 4: there was about four hundred at seat And alone, so

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Speaker 4: there is some in there. Obviously, the more the better

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Speaker 4: we'd see. I guess if there's one positive about this

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Speaker 4: tradeing shortage is that it's a fantastic time for anyone

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Speaker 4: to get into the industry. If you want an opportunity

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Speaker 4: to be an apprentice, people are always hiring Masterfield. It's

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Speaker 4: uncommon for us to have twenty odd vacancies at one

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Speaker 4: point in time for the new apprentices. So if you

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Speaker 4: want to get into the industry, the demand's clearly there

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Speaker 4: and you can get in, get started, and pretty soon

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Speaker 4: you can be earning really good money.

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Speaker 1: All right, there we go, Well, thank you for your

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Speaker 1: time anytime. We'll prugly there. CEO Master Builders Essay