1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: The Sheffield Shield season, got the final, it deserved an 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: epic over five days, South Australia crown back to back champions. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Domesticated. I'm justin Edwards, Fox Crickets Nick Savages 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: alongside me. 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Nick. 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: What a Sheffield Shield Final. It was five days of 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: awesome cricket. 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: The two best states and the competition and Victoria dominated 9 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 3: the first couple of days. They got that first innings lead, 10 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 3: a little bit of a collapse early in the second 11 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 3: innings of South Australia and it was all about Alex 12 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 3: Carey and the fast ballers in that fourth innings. South 13 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: Australia back to back champions, first time in there one 14 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty history that been able. 15 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: To do it. So a really exciting time for the Redbacks. 16 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: What I love about South Australia is they're taking almost 17 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: the discards from other states. Guys like Jason Sanger, Henry 18 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Thornton who couldn't get Nathan McAndrew as well, couldn't get 19 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: an opportunity for New South Wales and here he is 20 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: Player of the match in the Shoeld Final. Ryan Harris 21 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: really seems to have to be able to get the 22 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: best out of these players that other states. 23 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: Weren't willing to give opportunities. 24 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: You have to actually go back a few years to 25 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 3: when South Astralia got bottom of the Shield ladder two 26 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: years in a row. They went nearly two years without 27 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: getting a win. Even it was around that time that 28 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: Jason Glessie was stood down. Michael Hassi was asked to 29 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: conduct a review and one of his main points was 30 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: don't be afraid to pinch players from other states. The 31 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: more popular states on the east, on the eastern coast 32 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 3: of Australia and then South Asraa took that on board. 33 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: They started taking the discards. The people were pushing for 34 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: spots and it's massively paid dividends. You don't want to 35 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 3: give my Cassi all the credit, but it was a 36 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: master stroke in the end. In that starting eleven in 37 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: that final South Australia, only one player was actually born 38 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: in South Australia, being. 39 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: Alex Carry at the Centurion. 40 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: The entire bowling attack was made out of Sydney great 41 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: cricketers at the start of their careers, so no exactly rights. 42 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: It's worked really well for South Australia and you know 43 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: a bit of a dynasty building here. Can they make 44 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 3: it a hat trick of titles next summer. 45 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, two in a row, the first time in the 46 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty four year history of this competition 47 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: that South Australia have won two Shield titles in a row. 48 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: And the start of this competition there are only three 49 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: states in South Astralia is one of them. They stoodn't 50 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: win to an a row back then. Alex Carey was 51 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: the high like the only century of the match and 52 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: second consecutive Shield final one hundred after he got one 53 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: last year as well. 54 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: Is a big game player. His test experience is rubbing 55 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: off there. He can stand up when the pressure's on. 56 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: I mean the a lot of great players haven't been 57 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: able to do that in Shield finals. Peter Hanskin was 58 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: the leading run scorer of the entire competition, but he 59 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: just couldn't knuckle down in that second innings and get 60 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: Victoria of the line. Alex Carey, I mean there was 61 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: that one stage where South Australia were effectively seven for 62 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: forty on. I mean the game was it felt basically over. 63 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 3: Then with the help of Nathan mc andrew, rebuilt that innings, 64 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: gave them a chance and the Ballers did the rest 65 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: and yeah, Cary, he's the best keeper batter in the 66 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: world at the moment. I feel maybe not a couple 67 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: of years ago wouldn't have been, but after that Ashes 68 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: series and another Shield Final one hundred, he's got to 69 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 3: be considered one of the best in the world at 70 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: the craft. 71 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 72 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: And what I love about Alex Carey is he's at 73 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: a point in his career where he doesn't need to 74 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: play shield cricket. If he didn't want to play, it 75 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: would be no skin off your nose. Yeah, you've had 76 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: a massive summer, can have a rest, but he comes 77 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: back to play shield cricket, not just to prepare for tests. 78 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: He plays shield cricket because he loves to play shield cricket. 79 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: He loves representing South Australia. You know, people go off 80 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: to the IPL and that's fine. I'm sure Kerry would 81 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: be at the IPL if he hadn't been in the 82 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: auction and got a deal. 83 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: But I love. 84 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: Players like this. Matthew Wade was the same. He loved 85 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: playing for his state. He loves playing shield cricket when 86 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't need to, and I think it might ask 87 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: him at some point, but I think this actually winning 88 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: back to back Sheffer'd Shield titles. Alex Krey would actually 89 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: consider one of his career highlights. He's been in World 90 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: cut winning squads. He's one Ashes series, but the way 91 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: he loves representing South Australia as only South Australian born 92 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: South Australian in that eleven it's just as a Sheffield 93 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: Shield fan, it just fills my heart with warmth. 94 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: Well, they would have supported him through the entire to 95 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: the first half of his career as he was making 96 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: a name for himself in Australian cricket. South Australia ones 97 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: giving him those opportunities and giving him those chances, and 98 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: he feels an obligation to pay them back of course. 99 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: And as you said, a lot of the players his 100 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: teammates and the Test sight are off in the PSL 101 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: of the IPL. Scot Boland also played that final, similar 102 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: for Victoria. He was in that Victorian set up for 103 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: a decade before getting his Test debut. 104 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: He also feels as though this is a good chance 105 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: to hopefully. 106 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: Get the Nut title and pay back all the effort 107 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: they've put in for him, and Alex carry now hopefully 108 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: gets a bit of a breakheut of what's gonna be 109 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 3: a massive summer next year, and he just loves South 110 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: Astralian cricket. 111 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: He wants them to win. 112 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: Titles and it's really great to see him not only 113 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: contributing but winning them those games with big scores. 114 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: The came moment of that Shield Final was the start 115 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: of Day four when South Australia were in all sorts 116 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: of travel and not just one hundred from Alex Carey, 117 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: but sixty from Nathan McAndrew, first ever Sheffield Shield half 118 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: century and three wickets in each innings with the ball. 119 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: Player of the match. 120 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: For a guy that couldn't get a game for New 121 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: South Wales a few years ago, comes across to South 122 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: Australia and he's become such an important player for them. 123 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: Stood up now that Brendan Doggett has been both injured 124 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: and playing Test cricket, he's been their leading wicket taker 125 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: this year. 126 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: Is he in best? 127 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: The player of the match and Shield Finals is always 128 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: in Test conversations, but he has elevated himself. Not quite 129 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: to the level of Star Cummins, Hazelwood and Boland and 130 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: Nissa the rung down, but he is right up there 131 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: in contention in that. 132 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: Next lot of fast ballers. 133 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: We spoke about in the last episode that we recorded 134 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: who was going to step up in that final because 135 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: players who do perform in finals get test op worth double. 136 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: Any wickets and runs in the seer final, they're worth double. 137 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 3: And it has that feeling because we've spoken to death 138 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: about this massive summer schedule that Australia has next year. 139 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: There's gonna be twenty tests in the span of about 140 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: ten months and Australia's aging bowling attack is not gonna 141 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: be able to do that. Like as much as we 142 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: love star Hazel Cummins, we've seen that they are vulnerable. 143 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: They're not going to be able to do that test 144 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: up to test, up to test. 145 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: Hazewld and Cummins played what one test between them in 146 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: the whole Ashes exactly. 147 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: The opportunities are there. 148 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: Brendan Doggert got his chance this summer and I think 149 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: particularly for the Ashes too. I think Nathan McAndrew is 150 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: very much a chance that I think he's got the 151 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: skill set to do really well over the UK. I 152 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: think he's done a bit of county cricket in the 153 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: past and done so quite successfully. Ferguson neil as well. 154 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: He wasn't on the winning side, but bold and batted 155 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: really well in this match as well. And he's obviously been, 156 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: like McAndrew, a very consistent performer over. 157 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 2: The last few years. 158 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: So do not be surprised at the two of them 159 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: are in that Ashes squad in fourteen months time, because 160 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: I think they've got the skill set to do it 161 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: and they have the experience at Shield level to convert 162 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: that into Test wickets. 163 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: We'll move on to Fergus O'Neil. He's in a similar 164 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: mold to Nathan McAndrew. What he did really well was 165 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: not only his bowling, but he's batting in this match 166 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: as he's batting has been so good all summer. Well, 167 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: he was able to bat at. 168 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: Seven, I mean it was a role that Will Sutherland 169 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: had done in the past. For whatever reason, he slid 170 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: down to eight nine. 171 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: Quite for Victoria. 172 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: Fergus Neil, he's averaging in the high thirties this summer 173 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: in the Shield and we look at the top ten 174 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: names on the run scorers, they're all averaging mid thirties 175 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: and Fergus Neil's just on par with them. Essentially, Yes, 176 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: against the older ball, but regardless, he looks strong with 177 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: about He's basically an all round her now and that 178 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: co I think goes a long way and pushing his 179 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: chances for a Test caller. Because Alex Carey is getting 180 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: more chances at Test se number six, there's a spot 181 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 3: there at seven. Perhaps it's Bo Webster's. He's probably the 182 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 3: first name there. But if they needed a bowling a 183 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: rounder for team balance, whether it be in India, we 184 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: know a lot of weird things happens with citing eleven 185 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: in India, there's every chance that they might need it 186 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: as a second quick also providing some valuable runs. So 187 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: if he can keep improving as batting as well as 188 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: keeping his bowling as consistent as it has been, he's 189 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: every chance of helping his chances for Test debut. 190 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: I do think that is his path into the Test team, 191 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: sort of as the successor to Nisa as a bowling 192 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: all round up. We know the air speed everyone we 193 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: talked to death about Fergus only is too slow for 194 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: Test cricket. But if he's get chipping in with the 195 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: odd half century as well as being a frontline bowler, 196 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: I think that is his path into the Test team 197 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: in a similar way that Nissa did, maybe not as 198 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: a guy that's going to play sixty tests, but a 199 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: guy that might pay twenty super important tests for Victoria. 200 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: This was a real missed opportunity for them. We have 201 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: spoken all year on this show about how they are 202 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: the best team in the competition. They get the home 203 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: final lock that in with a couple of rounds to go, 204 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: and they miss their optunity on the big stage. 205 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: They slipt up. They tripped at that final hurdle. 206 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: We just spoke before about how they were in such 207 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: a dominant position, they just let that partnership grow. They 208 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: couldn knock over the tail quickly and then the top bar, 209 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: and that fourth innings just couldn't step up. They just 210 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: couldn't get the runs. Hanskom was there only when who 211 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: got past thirty I think in that fourth inning. 212 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: So that moment at the end of day four when 213 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: Hanskimb and Harris were in, and if those two got 214 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: to stumps, Victoria would have been strong favorites going into 215 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: day five. They both got out and Victoria sent the 216 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: two night watchmen in, who both got three to stumps. 217 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: So that was a fine decision. But if those two 218 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,239 Speaker 1: had been at stumps, the two guys with test experience. 219 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: You got to get them out on next day before 220 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: you can get into the tail. That would have changed 221 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: the game entirely. 222 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: No, exactly right, So it is a shame for Victoria. 223 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: But Will Sutherland spoke about afterwards that he does feel 224 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: that this team is building towards something really good, really strong, 225 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 3: and look at the squad. There's so many young players 226 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 3: there who are still developing their craft. Olli peak Campbell Kellaway. 227 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 3: We've seen Sam Harper develop into a really exciting opening player, 228 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: and a lot of the quick balls are in their 229 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: mid twenties as well. They are still building towards a 230 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 3: really strong Victorian side, and they've missed a lot of 231 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: opportunities over the last few years. I've made the final 232 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: a few times without getting it done. But I think 233 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: as well subtle and said during that post match presentation, 234 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: you know it's not all about one match. 235 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: He's going to define this team. 236 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: No doubt They're gonna be that final again next year 237 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: because they are a really strong side. 238 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: The controversy out of the Sheffield Shield finally, if you 239 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: can call it that, the injury sub and so to 240 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: explain what happens Sam Mali. It was selected over Mitch 241 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: Perry for Victoria, which was a really tight selection call. 242 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: Samily then injures his hamstring. 243 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: We've heard now it's a Grade two hamstring strain and 244 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: Mitch Perry is injury subbed in, which is as per 245 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: the rules, and Mitch Perry goes on to take a 246 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: wicket with his very first ball. So Ryan Harris was 247 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: critical of this. It's a rule we've had the whole 248 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: year in the Sheffield Shields, initially on a trial basis, 249 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: what do you think of it? 250 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: In a Shield final and it's played a pivotal role. 251 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of the rule. 252 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: I would like to see it at Test level because 253 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 3: the alternative we saw last year during the English summer 254 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: when Chris Wokes walked out with his broken arm in 255 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: a sling having to bat out to try and save 256 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: the game. 257 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: We don't want to see that scenario. 258 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 3: Risha Pant had a similar situation early in this series 259 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: yet to bat with one leg. Essentially, I prefer this 260 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: as an alternative, and they have rules in place. It 261 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: has to be a switch done before day two and 262 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 3: the opposition is allowed to make a strategic switch in response. 263 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: So I see that as a really good alternative that 264 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: just forcing into players to bat essentially, and we see 265 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 3: how detrimental can be if a team is down a bowler, 266 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 3: essentially trying to make someone ball through the pain, resulting. 267 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: In longer term injuries. I like the rule. 268 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 3: I think it does still need tinkering, and I probably 269 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: will be tinkering with over the next couple years. 270 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: I would like to see at test level. 271 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: Eventually it can result in some fascal scenes as he 272 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: saw in the Shield final where Ben Roh was being 273 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: sent out as a substitute fielder at one stage to 274 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: make up the eleven. I get that, but I think 275 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 3: it's better than an alternative. Personally. 276 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: I like the rule in Shield Cricket because we talk 277 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: about the dual role of Shield cricket, which is, yes, 278 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: it's winning and the title, but also to develop players 279 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: for the Test team, and nobody gets developed by somebody 280 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: being out of the team and nobody coming in to 281 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: replace them, not just for the team that that happened 282 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: to with a person that gets the opportunity like Mitch 283 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: Perry gets the opportunity to come in, but also for 284 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: the opposition, because say Alex Kerry is a prospective Test player. 285 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: Had he got a century against a depleted attack, that 286 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: would be a mark against him. So I get one 287 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: hundred hours against a depleted attack, so he gets the 288 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: opportunity to do it against a full attack. I don't 289 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: want to see an injury sub in Test cricket, where 290 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: winning is absolutely everything. I think built into your selection 291 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: of the eleven should be contingencies for what happens in 292 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: the case of an injury. So an all rounder is 293 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: valuable to your team because they can fill a role 294 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: if a bowler goes down, not even if a bowler 295 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: goes down with injury. If a bowl is just bowling bad, 296 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: you can go to your round it and you have 297 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: options like that or you're The reason you know tail 298 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: end is practiced batting so much is because if they're 299 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: required that which could be in the case of an injury, 300 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: it could just be in the case of batting collapse. 301 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: So I don't mind the rule in shield cricket. I 302 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: don't want to see it in Test cricket. 303 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: I think you're right. 304 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: Another is at this stage with how it's played out, 305 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: there are opportunities for Test sites to exploit it as 306 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: that which Victoria did not do He was no extreme 307 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: at hamstring injury, but the rule does leave it open 308 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: to be manipulated one hundred percent, and Ben Stokes flagged 309 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: that during the England series he was asked about the 310 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: injury and he basically, I don't like it because I 311 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 3: feel like we would try and exploit it as well 312 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: as the opposition would. So yeah, perhaps you're right test level, 313 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: it's not quite ready, but I think it does play 314 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: an important role definitely at Shield level. I think far 315 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: too often before we've seen games decided by moments like that, 316 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: and it's. 317 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: Benefited New Souf Well a lot this summer. 318 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 3: I think two or three times they had to bring 319 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 3: in a substitute player for an injury. Seann Abbott was 320 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: the first to go off Will Saltzman during a game 321 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 3: with the SCG. The Blues had a lot of bad 322 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: luck throughout this summer. Clear up the reason they didn't 323 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: make the final. They've got a lot of bigger issues there. 324 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: But it has a role to. 325 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 3: Play in the Shield And while it was a bit 326 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 3: silly in the Shield Final this time around and it 327 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: did definitely aid Victoria's cause, I think it's really important. 328 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: Okay, in our last episode. 329 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: This has been our biggest topic of discussion all year, 330 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: the Australian Top seven. We're going to name our Australian 331 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: Top seven for their next Test match, which is Bangladeshi 332 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: in August, and I'm taking it with a view to 333 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: South Africa in October as well. I'm sure we both 334 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: have Travis Head opening the batting. Who is opening the 335 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: batting alongside him? 336 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: For you? This is difficult for me because I'm a 337 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 3: big fan of Jake WEATHERALLDO. I really like him as 338 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: an opener, but at this stage I'm backing Matt Renshaw 339 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: for that gig. He obviously hasn't played Test cricket for 340 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: a few years, but he's matured a lot as a 341 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: player and a person, and in all three formats he's 342 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: contributing a lot for Queensland and the Brisbane Heat and 343 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: I just feel that he'd be a really good accomplish 344 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: for Travis Head. 345 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: At the top. I am Matt Renshaw as well. 346 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: I think while his shield numbers in terms of total 347 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: runs don't stack up as much, is because he hasn't 348 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: played as many because he's been playing with Australia. He 349 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: was at the t twenty World Cup. He played for 350 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: the one days at the start of the summer. I'm 351 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: him opening the banning as well. However, I'm perhaps not. 352 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm not giving up on Jake Weather. 353 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: Or just yet. 354 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: I don't think his international career is over. You're number three. 355 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: I also pondered over this one for a while, but 356 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 3: purely because of I don't see a stronger alternative. I'm 357 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: sticking with Manus Lavish and it's approaching our three is 358 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: since he got a Test one hundred, which is pretty 359 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: wilful for Australia. Number three like that wouldn't have been 360 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: acceptable a generation to go, but we saw at the 361 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: start of the summer he was just a class above 362 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: everyone else in the Sheffield Shield at start. Obviously the 363 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 3: form dipped off in the ashes and drew in the 364 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: second half of the Shield, but he has what eleven 365 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: test hundreds, and that experience is so valuable rather than 366 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: going on essentially a wild card or a new name 367 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: at number three, which is such an important spot. 368 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: So just his. 369 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: Experience keeps him there. But he needs runs, purely, he 370 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: needs runs. 371 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: I am Manus at three as well. 372 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: Tensatively, I sort of was like, I can't we need 373 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: to try something else. But then no, I didn't nowhere 374 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: else to go. The only other thing I thought about 375 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: was sticking with Weatherorld and having Renshaw at three because 376 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: renchal combat anyway, is the most first tail batsman in Australia. 377 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: That's what I thought about. But I'm just sticking with 378 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: Manus for now. 379 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure we both have Steve Smith at number four 380 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: your number five. 381 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: Also, maybe he's not controversial Cameron Green. I yeah, he's 382 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: had an awful summer, a really bad summer. 383 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: He would know that. 384 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: But I think he has the talent to be a 385 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: great Test cricket. I still think that talent's there. He 386 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: finished the summer with a shield hundred in Sydney in 387 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: what proved, you know, really important knock for him after 388 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 3: a bad summer. 389 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: But he contributes to the ball. 390 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: He's a gun in gully and I still think he 391 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: has the makings of a great Test cricketer. 392 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: So I'm sicking with him for now. I think. 393 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: What you've said is what the selectors are most likely 394 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: to go with. I've gone in a different path. I 395 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: wrestled with this one for a long time. I thought 396 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: about I thought about Pete Hanscombe. See if you shild 397 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: leting run score. I thought about Green, I thought about 398 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: dropping Renshort down to five. I've ended up with Curtis 399 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: Patterson from New South Wales. I think that one hundred 400 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: and seventy three not out that he scored in Shield. 401 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: That's the best innings anybody's played in Shield cricket. Maybe 402 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: Alex Cary's one hundred final overtakes it, but I think, 403 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: and then my thinking is all in the next twelve months. 404 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm not thinking any longer term than next year's ashes. 405 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: So the next twelve months we know all the big 406 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: series there and a World chest Championship final likely as well, 407 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: so I'm not worried about age for this twelve months. 408 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm having Curtis Patterson. I love certainly starting there. 409 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: I love to see a little bit more consistency from 410 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: him in the red bull stuff. He was the best 411 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: one day better and domestic cricket this summer, but he 412 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: just wasn't converting enough starts into big scool cricket. 413 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: That's his white bull runs. 414 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: Because I think fifty other cricket and Test cricket close, 415 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: I think they're even closer together in terms of what 416 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: you need to do as a batsman than one day 417 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: cricket and T twenty cricket, and his one day form 418 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: bumped him above Handskim for me, so I'm hoping he 419 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: can translate. Just but just pretend it's fifty. 420 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: Have a match. 421 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: But like that, you get one hundred, you won't get 422 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: out number six. We both have Alex carry a batting six. 423 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: Even though that we could keep it normally, go seven, 424 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: he went up to six. Did fine, you're number seven, 425 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: bo Webson. He's always performed in the Test side. Every 426 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: time he's had a chance. They he's contributed. No big 427 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: hundreds or anything, but he has so often rescued that side, 428 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: particularly in the West Indies and the Caribbean tour. He 429 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: was unlucky to miss out during the first half the 430 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: Ashes series. 431 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: He gets his chance back in and nails it once 432 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: again with a few wickets important runs for me. 433 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: He's a great number seven. 434 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: I think he balances the side really well and his 435 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: value will be massive. I think during the Border Gavescot Trophy, 436 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 3: I think he's versatility, thinking about anywhere from three down 437 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: to eight really and he can bol a bit of 438 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: off spin on those turning decks. I think he's a 439 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 3: muscle in that side for India, but he's just performed 440 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 3: too well to ignore him. 441 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: Again. 442 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: I am Bo Webster as well at number seven, so 443 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm Cameron Green not in my eleven right now. I'm 444 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: not writing him off entirely. I think he'll be certainly 445 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: on the plane to South Africa in the squad. 446 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 2: He'll probably be in the squad for Bangladesh as well. 447 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: Just right I just want to see a little bit more, 448 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: and I don't even know what I want to see 449 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: because he goes back to Sheld Cricket and he gets 450 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: one hundred. It's just I think I can't drop bow Webster. 451 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: I can't stomach moving Green up in the order any 452 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: higher than six. So I don't want him at five. 453 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: I'll have Patterson or Hanskim or someone else at five. 454 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: So at the moment, I'm Green out, which I don't 455 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: think the selectors will do. I think Green will begin. 456 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 457 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: I think we saw Green at three last year, which 458 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: I didn't like. 459 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 2: A lot of people didn't like. 460 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 3: He got I think one solid booking fifty in the 461 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 3: West Indies, but the way that he throwed that summer 462 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 3: I dropped from three down to five, down to seven. 463 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: I think finished up at number eight during the Sydney Tests. 464 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 3: It was a really sort of perfect example of how 465 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: far his batting had dropped in how unreliable. 466 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: He was in that Test side. But I just think 467 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: he's a gun. He's a gun. 468 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: He looks so good when he's on and I think 469 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 3: he can be a match in both thousands of the game. 470 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think him and Webster the same side 471 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 3: will work really well. 472 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: I can tell you with both of this we both struggled, 473 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: so it's not going to be an easy thing for 474 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: the selectors to pick. Heading into that Test in Bangladesh 475 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: coming up, we speak, We go inside the South Australian 476 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: Sheffield Shield winning camp and we speak to their quick, 477 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: Henry Thornton. Well, it is our great privilege to be 478 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: joined by one of the winners of the Sheffield Shield 479 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: South Australian Quick, Henry Thornton. Henry, thanks so much for 480 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: joining us. We get the first and most important things 481 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: out of the way. First, did you find somewhere to 482 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: celebrate on a Monday afternoon in Melbourne? And who was 483 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: best on ground in the celebrations. 484 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 3: We did? 485 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were lucky enough because the game kind of 486 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 4: finished early enough, so yeah, we had a fair crack 487 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 4: at it. We were in the sheds with our families 488 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 4: and partners who had traveled across for the game. We're 489 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 4: in there for about a few hours and then yeah, 490 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 4: we did find somewhere to Yeah, to let loose last night. 491 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 5: It was good based on ground. I'm going to go 492 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 5: Betty min Enti. He's pretty good at it. 493 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 3: And the team flew back to Adelaide this morning. What 494 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 3: to the next couple of days look like for yourself 495 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: and the teammates. 496 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 4: We're just going to keep celebrating. We're just going to 497 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 4: keep celebrating. I think there'll be a few cold yeers 498 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 4: floating around. So we've got a parade this afternoon down 499 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 4: at Random Wall, so we're going to do that and 500 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 4: then yeah, let the good times role. 501 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 5: We'll go to end the season awards night tomorrow night. 502 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 5: So yeah, we'll just keep partying. Lost pretty good at the. 503 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: Moment and the celebrations began. You played a key moment 504 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: you took the last week hit. I think that was 505 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: scenes every club cricket in the country can relate to. 506 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: When you take the last week it, everybody around you 507 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: tell her. 508 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: It's what it was like to be in the middle 509 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: of that throng. Ah. 510 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 4: Honestly, so many people asking me yesterday and I still 511 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 4: don't believe it, like in terms of it just did shock. 512 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 5: It's again like it's days like yesterday. 513 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 4: Why you play cricket, right, And I guess it's why 514 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 4: you as a kid. You dream of opportunities like that 515 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 4: and for it to come to fruition. 516 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 5: Was just amazing. So yeah, our group so special. 517 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 4: We love each other and you would have seen it 518 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 4: in the scenes yesterday when I took that final wicket. 519 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 4: Everyone was just so happy that we got the shield 520 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 4: and brought it back to South Australia. 521 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 3: If we go back a couple of days, Victoria had 522 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: gotten a sizable first innings lead about sixty odd runs, 523 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 3: and then the South Stralian top order stumbled a little 524 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: bit early and then Nathan McAndrew walked out. Was there 525 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: a moment where you felt that maybe the game was 526 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 3: slipping away from South Australia a little bit? 527 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 5: Yeah? 528 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 4: Sorry, I just lost it for two seconds, but yeah, 529 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 4: talking about Nathan McAndrew, mate, he battered like Bradman. 530 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 5: He was amazing and cares as well. He just showed 531 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 5: why he's. 532 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 4: He's a testkeeper for a reason, right, So every time 533 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 4: he comes back and plays, who else he performs. He's 534 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 4: so great to have around the group. But yeah, Maka 535 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 4: obviously one player player of the final and thoroughly deserved 536 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 4: a beat bold outstanding Lee but also that innings yests 537 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 4: to get us out of trouble was insane. So yeah, 538 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 4: lucky to have both of them in our team. The 539 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 4: great guys and they fight and they do anything for 540 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 4: our team. 541 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: You had a great final as well, Henry three wickets 542 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: in both innings. 543 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 2: You've really built a roster. 544 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: Of depth in South Australia with you quicks. There was you, 545 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: Nathan McAndrew, Jordan Buckingham and Liam Scott the all rounder 546 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: all in the top twenty. Wic could take is for 547 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: the Shield this season and led by your coach Ryan Harris, 548 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: another great quick. You've really built such a great depth 549 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: in your fast bowling stocks and you all seem to 550 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: work off each other really well. 551 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 5: Yeah we do. I think that's just the culture that 552 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 5: we wanted to build at Sucker. 553 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 4: Rhino's obviously come in his second year in the role 554 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 4: and he's gone back to back but. 555 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 5: That's just what he's built. 556 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 4: I feel like anyone who comes into our team does 557 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: their role really well, does their job really well. And 558 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 4: I think like last year when we won it, we 559 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 4: use twenty three out of twenty six squad members, so 560 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 4: it takes a full squad to win trophies. 561 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 5: And that's something we speak about, is you're playing in 562 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 5: our team, the right to play in our. 563 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 4: Team, and if you are playing in our team, everyone has. 564 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 5: Full faith and that you're going to get it done. 565 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 5: So yeah, it's amazing. 566 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: Look, we obviously it's really hard to leave guys out 567 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 4: as well, like I got left out last year in 568 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 4: the final, but you know, totally understood it. And whoever 569 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 4: goes in and does a job, they just get it done. 570 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 5: So I think that's what we're building and it's pretty 571 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 5: special to be able to do it and keep this. 572 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 4: If we can keep this group together, we're going to 573 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 4: probably you know, hopefully win a few more titles. 574 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 3: During the postmatch presentation, Nath mc andrews spoke about how 575 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: it was particularly special to go back to back because 576 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: it was proof that last year it wasn't a fluke. 577 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: There's a dynasty building here in South Australia. Is that 578 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 3: the feeling among the group that it felt really special 579 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 3: to justify and back it up in consecutive years. 580 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've always spoken about building something really special. Now 581 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 4: obviously going back to back helps that. But if we 582 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 4: can keep this group together, we're all great mates off 583 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: the field, we love playing with each other. If we 584 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: can keep them all together, kind of the sky's the limit. 585 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 4: And we also, you know, we really like to produce 586 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 4: some Australian players as well, and I think winning winning 587 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 4: trophies helps that. 588 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 5: So we're moving in the right direction. 589 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 4: And hopefully this is you know, we can add some 590 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 4: more silverware along the way. 591 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: Talking about the great bond that you have with your teammates, Henry, 592 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: does some of that come from the fact that quite 593 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: a lot of you are not South Australian born and bred. 594 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: You've come from other states because you weren't getting the 595 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: opportunity in your home states. South Australia have extended that 596 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: opportunity to you. And there's you, there's Jason Sanger, Henry Hunt, 597 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: Liam Scott even was from another state. Like all these 598 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: guys that come from other states and South Australia are 599 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: giving you that opportunity and you've all just seized it 600 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: with both hands. 601 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a pretty unique situation, right. 602 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 4: So we're all obviously well, there's a fair few of 603 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 4: us who have come from into state looking for an opportunity, 604 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 4: and I guess that's probably galvanized our team. We're all 605 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 4: a great bunch of blokes as well, and I think 606 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 4: that really helps in a team environment. 607 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 5: We're all also very invest sit in each. 608 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 4: Other's success, like we actually genuinely want people to do well. 609 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 4: And you know, I think you would have seen that 610 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 4: yesterday when all of our players who you know, our 611 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 4: squad members who weren't in the Shield squad were there. 612 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 4: They flew down to Melbourne. They stayed the week. 613 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 5: So yeah, it's an amazing culture that we're building. 614 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 4: But it's also it's just it's great to see guys 615 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 4: get an opportunity, right, Like I didn't get an opportunity 616 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 4: a New so Huales and then you know went through Victoria. 617 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 4: Now I'm at South Australia, so I think, you know, 618 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: you got to go somewhere. We're going to get an 619 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 4: opportunity and it's just great to do it with a 620 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 4: great bunch of blokes who've done it the hard. 621 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 5: Way, gone through club cricket. 622 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 4: And I think that's probably why you saw the raw 623 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 4: emotion yesterday of us on the field, because we know 624 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 4: how hard it is to get in a system and 625 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: have success. 626 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: And he touched on how important is to produce Australian players. 627 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: We saw your teammate Brendan Doggett make us test abut 628 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 3: during the Ashes. 629 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 2: He helped Australia win that series. 630 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 3: Who else from your squad would you love to see 631 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: inn a baking Green Caps some time over the next 632 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: eighteen months. You yourself have had a couple of Australia opportunities, 633 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: have nailed that and no doubt would be really eager 634 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: to push for that spot. But who else for your 635 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: teammates do you think is ready for that next step? 636 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 4: I think Nathan McAndrew is, and I think he should 637 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 4: be in the conversation. 638 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: I don't know why he's not in the conversation. 639 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 4: He's a guru, he's so skillful with the ball he's 640 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 4: got he's got a great motor, he can bowl anywhere. 641 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 4: And yeah, I think Nathan mc andrew, I'd love to 642 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 4: see our batters like I think Jason Sugger and Nathan McSweeney. 643 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 5: I'd love to see them push push for the national. 644 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 4: Selection, but at the moment it's a bit weird because 645 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 4: we kind of feel like if we keep winning stuff, 646 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 4: it's going to kind of take care of itself. So 647 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 4: hopefully if we keep winning trophies, we can get you know, 648 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 4: three or four South Australians in that team. 649 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: Plenty of South Australians in the National Conversation. I'm sure Henry, 650 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: we might let you go and give your voice a break. 651 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 1: I can tell it's been a big night of celebrating. 652 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us, and congratulations on your 653 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: chef you shield title. 654 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 4: Nah, thanks boys, I appreciate it. Yeah, we're gonna have 655 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 4: a few more beers to recond