WEBVTT - #2150 Rushing to Nowhere - Christian Stewart 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:04.360 I get a your bloody superstars. I'll tell you what. 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.000 In Melbourne, folks, I don't know where you live, but 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:09.520 where I live in the thriving metropolis down the bottom 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:11.959 of austral the art well, almost the bottom, that would 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:15.120 really be Tazzy. Wouldn't shout out to Tazzy or seven 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:16.880 of you who listened to this over there. I hope 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.799 you're great. But right now I'm looking out the window 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:23.000 at the winbow, the window through the bamboo. See Wimbo 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.759 is a combination of window and bamboo. I'm looking through 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:29.280 the winbow and it's sunny, and it's beautiful, and it's 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:33.199 twenty degrees at ten o'clock, it's going to be grouse. 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.360 Christian Ray Stewart is today's guest. He is one of 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.519 my oldest friends. We've known each other for I'm going 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:46.879 to say thirty plus years. He is someone who's recently 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.760 been through a really interesting experience, and you know me, 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.320 I love hearing. 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:56.560 Other people's stories. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.160 I love learning about where they've been and what they've seen, 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.880 and perhaps most importantly, what they've been through and what 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:07.080 understanding and insight or experience they took away from that 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:11.280 event or that situation or that thing that they went through, 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.720 and Christian's recently been through something that I've spoken about 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:16.880 with him at the gym because he's one of my 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.760 training partners, spoken about this with him at the gym, 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.839 and I just think it's, let's be honest, fucking fascinating. 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.120 I don't fully get it. He doesn't fully get it. 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:32.040 And I'm just going to preface this conversation with these 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.520 two mates having a chat. That's it. It's not an interview, 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:41.360 it's not a presentation. We're not telling anyone what to 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.319 do or what not to do, and I expect to 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:48.680 learn as much as you. So, without further ado, Hello, 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:49.680 big boy, how are you? 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:51.360 I'm good mate? How are you? 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:55.080 Oh? Look, I'm great over here in Hampton. How's bo Marris? 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.760 How's the thriving metropolis of bo Maris? 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.960 All right, mate, I'm I'm tucked up on the beg 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:04.080 my little dog here, Murphy. I've just had a little 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.320 bit of a walk with him, a bit of breakfast, 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.360 jumped in the cold plunge, make got myself organized and 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:12.680 I've propped myself up on bear to have any yacht 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:14.840 to you. Good on you? Is it? 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:15.920 So? 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:17.720 It's Wednesday. You have Wednesdays off. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.600 Right, Yeah, I've got to be Wednesday at the moment, mate. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.680 So I'm working Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday off, Thursday, Friday and 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.600 then two days off. So just to give our listeners 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.920 to hang out, I'll just hang out and just relax 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:30.799 and you know rest. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.919 My one thing about dogs is they're just going to 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.320 love you. They're not going to talk back. They're just 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.040 going to sit next to your day and go, fuck, 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.160 You're great. Yeah, it doesn't matter what you do. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.120 He's just a champion. I've let him in the bed. Though. 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:48.240 Let's not tell your missus. Let's not tell the lovely 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.440 mirror who's probably going to listen to this and is 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:54.520 now mad at me. Sorry, Maren, Sorry, not sorry. So 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.160 let's just give people a little bit of an understanding 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.080 before we talk about your recent adventures. 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.679 What do you do? What's your job? We used to 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.240 be a personal trainer, amongst many things. But what do 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:05.840 you do now? 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:07.880 What do I do right now? Mate? I work for 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:12.160 a landscaping company. We look after high end homes all 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.560 around Melbourne. I work for a company that's been around 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:18.880 for about thirty years. I do sort of like a 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:22.200 bayside run. So I've got myself a van and normal 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.040 tools and go to homes and some of the guys 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:29.080 come in and you know, do a renovation on someone's garden, 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.560 put in paving the lights, put in new plants. And 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:37.240 my job is to keep the garden alive. So when 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.000 plants die or things are looking a bit so I'll 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:43.000 replace them and fertilize the lawn and you know, make 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.880 it look nice for the client and probably I reckon. 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:51.280 I do about four or five jobs a day, couple 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:54.680 jobs down the coast, look after some nice homes down 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.520 at Merrick's North, down at Porzy. 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.000 Do you work on any Do you work on any 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.600 places that are worth more than twenty million? 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:07.640 No ah, ah, No, there's a couple of big places 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:08.280 down in Portsy. 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:12.760 There's some fancy joints down there, isn't there. 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:14.960 Yeah, there's some big there's a lot of money down there. 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:19.000 But we've got some really wealthy clients in the Gowries. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.160 A place up in I think up in in the 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.400 city there, it's an old home that's been around for 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:28.479 many years. Yeah, Yet there's a lot of staff. There's 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:32.599 like I think nearly forty staff, you know, so it's busy. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.920 It's busy, long days, but it's good. It's outside, being in, 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.520 being in nature and being amongst the wind and the 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.080 trees and the birds, which I like. So it's good. 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:42.400 You and I. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:49.320 You and I were talking recently about communication in nature 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.680 and the way that animals communicate and even trees communicate, 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:58.560 and yeah, and getting energy, like not metaphorically, not pretend, 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:02.719 but actually getting energy back from your environment and being 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:03.680 around trees. 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:07.160 Do you think do you think for you. 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.520 That that's part of your kind of mental health management? 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:15.960 Yeah, one hundred percent. I feel I reckon better when 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:20.440 I'm outside, like that vibe when you go camping or 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:24.720 you're fishing, or you often do you you know, your 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.640 morning walks along Hampon Beach with your bare feet, something 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.640 makes you feel better. There's a vibe. I think there's 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.840 an energy, there's a flow of something out there that 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.040 definitely makes your soul feel better. You know. I think 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.400 wilder the weather sometimes the better for me. 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.240 I love it. 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:47.800 Isn't it isn't it interesting how much we fucking hurry 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:49.520 to nowhere in particular. 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:51.040 Exactly? 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.080 You know the other day I was down there, As 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.440 you say, I walk often get to go. 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:58.320 Did you do bare feet when you walk? 0:05:58.560 --> 0:05:58.800 Yeah? 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:00.679 Yeah, I get to the beach, I take my shoes 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.080 and side don't walk bare feet there. 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:02.960 I walk in shoes. 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:04.159 But I. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:09.520 Get you know where green Point is, where South Road 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:13.000 meets Beach Road. Often I get there, take my shoes off, 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:17.599 and then I walk basically back up to Sandy your club, 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.520 as much as I can in the soft sand, which, 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.440 by the way, everyone, if you want to burn a 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.920 few extra calories, don't walk on a firm surface. Walk 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.840 on a soft, moving surface like sand. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:34.680 Does that make you feel though? Yeah, I watched that bit. 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:40.840 Yeah, like I just had this moment the other day, 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:43.480 really the other day. You know, people say that it 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.000 was two years ago. No, it was not last week. 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.159 It was a week before, so maybe ten days ago, four. 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:49.719 Ten days ago. 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.159 And I, you know, I have to get in because 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:54.760 of my maniac. I have to get in my ten 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:58.720 thousand steps a day. And one of the downsides I 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:03.120 think of, like organization and structure and to do lists 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:09.400 and box ticking and achieving and moving forward. It's all 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.480 good unless you wake up in the middle of all 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.560 the achieving and box ticking and moving and you know, 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:19.840 and go I'm not that fucking happy, or I'm busily 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.640 heading in this direction. But you know, we get to that, 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.840 we get wherever we wanted to go, and then we go, ah, 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.840 that's not it. So I have to pull myself up 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:34.000 and realize I'm sometimes rushing to nowhere in particular. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.680 That might be the name of today's show. But anyway, 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:39.120 do you do list? 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.880 So are you a list boy? I'm mating you go mate, 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:44.280 I'm going to do that, or I can't be there. 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:45.520 I mean, obviously we work. 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.560 Yeah, we've spoken about this. Actually, that's a good question. 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.000 Mary Harper is a fucking whorl chair. Like if there 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:52.800 was an Olympics for writing lists. 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:57.360 She's you know, she's at she's the goat. 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.120 But I was walking down right near you know, where 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.280 the monument is down there there at the end of 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:04.960 South Road. 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:06.120 I was walking right near there. 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.680 There's a ramp that departs from the car park down 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.200 I was walking past down that like thirty miles an hour, 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.040 like swinging my arms and you know, being. 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:19.040 And listening to a podcast, yeah, learning things in the podcast. 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:22.360 And then I just stopped for a minute and I 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.080 looked out there was no one around me. 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.160 It was absolutely beautiful. 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.200 I took my headphones off, like that's a dumb thing 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:30.720 walking in nature with headphones on. 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.560 I think you've got to take them off because nature 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:33.520 is the soundtrack. 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:38.440 And and I just sat my ass down there, and 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.640 there's all these rocks that go down to the water, 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.720 and so I literally went down to the edge of 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:45.800 the water. I took my shoes and socks off, put 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.800 my I wear shorts anyway, but I put my feet 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.840 just in the water. And then within about two minutes, 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.360 like my brain's going, come on, mate, that's good. You've 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.400 had a bit of nature, right, Oh, come. 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.559 On, we go on, let's go, got shit to do. 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.240 And I could just feel this inner conflict of like 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.200 I don't know what it is, but my spirit or 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.000 my soul or my whatever gone. No, just stay here, 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.560 just leave your feet in the water. Just look out there, 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.920 and for fox sake, stop thinking yet. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.920 Craig, just a little Craig on your shoulder, going hey mate, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:18.720 let's go. We've got things to do. We've got to train, 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.600 we've got to go and eat some food and be busy. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.600 You've got to you got to shut that little guy off. 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.040 I reckon, You've got to learn those skills it. 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:30.640 Is, don't you reckon it? Oh? 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:35.880 And in our culture we're busy and productive. And it's like, 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.640 you know, when you say to people sometimes how are. 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.680 You or how have you been? They don't tell you 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.640 how they've been. They tell you how busy they are. 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:45.839 How are busy? 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:46.640 No? 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.120 I don't know. No, I don't want to like a 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.680 list of your achievements. I mean, how are you? 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:52.199 How are you? 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:52.520 Though? 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:54.679 People don't even know what to do? 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.280 And do you reckon too many people when you say 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.280 how you go and come up and go I tear 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.679 off how the work day? How many people go, No, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:07.080 I'm good? You often hear how are you? I've had 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.640 a cold and I had a terrible night's sleep, and 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:13.080 this person's giving me the shits and I've got a headache. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.320 You know, you don't often hear that, though, do you. 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:22.680 I'm having a Yeah, that's but that's that is absolutely true. 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.560 But like I think women are much better at this, 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:33.080 being like more readily emotional and available and open and honestly, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.559 obviously it depends if you're getting off the bus. It's 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.040 probably not the best timing, but in general terms, you know, 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.960 if there's space, but I've been doing this a lot 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:46.600 with blokes, whereas I go, hey, doing mate, or and 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.000 they go yeah, all good, yep, yep, and then I 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.640 just let that settle and then I go and then 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:52.680 I just look in their eyes. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.440 I go, yeah, cool story, but how are you though? 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.079 Yeah? 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.760 And then quite often they more than fifty per cent 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:01.800 of the time, they start telling me about some bad 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.880 shit that's happening, or some stress or something about their 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.160 kids or their you know, their partner or their yeah, 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:11.080 and I just think, and you can't be all things 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:16.200 for all people, But isn't it amazing when you just 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.440 you know, give people whatever it is three minutes, four 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:24.360 minutes where you're just you're holding space. 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.959 I hate that term, but you are. 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.520 You're holding space for them, and you're making them the 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.400 center of your attention focus for three or four minutes, 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.640 coming from a place of compassion. 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.560 And then people I've. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.720 Had many dudes cry when I go, yeah, I don't 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.600 believe you, what's really going on? 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.600 Sorry, once you do open that door, I think being 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:53.680 a good listener is just a skill, you know, really 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.200 really hearing people. Once you get through that, all good 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.440 and really, how are you? And just sitting there and 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.520 listening to people is very important, you know. 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:06.920 I understand. Oh wow, is this the first part you've 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.000 ever done podcast? 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:10.720 Yeah? 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:14.200 Like as in this, Yeah, well you're good at this. 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:19.000 You're good. People are going to go no fuck also 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.520 like bloody Landscape. But how much wisdom as you got? 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.640 But don't you learn more from not talking and just listening? 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:27.280 Oh? 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:31.400 Yeah, that is we Yeah, don't you reckon like just 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:34.120 sitting in silence, I mean, not sitting in silence on 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.960 the I don't know, dressed with a pair of rainbow 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.839 clothes on. You know, But you just learn more from 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.800 being a good listener unless talking. Do you agree? 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.320 I feel like you're saying that directly to me, and 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.560 now I'm a bit scared. I do I fire that 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.520 arrow straight at your mate. Yeah, I'll take that. I'll 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.199 take that. Pretty hard to do a podcast without talking 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.240 a bit, though, But that's right, No, I'm fucking with you. 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:00.520 I totally agree. 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:05.600 Hey, son, can I just interrupt though? 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.720 Yeahive mate, it's a chat, there's no interview. 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.520 Yeah all right, that's good. What about when we first met? Remember, 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:17.040 like I think I was like twenty five, I reckon 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.840 twenty four to twenty five? Yeah, you were a couple 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:23.120 of years older than me, and I had no idea 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.000 what I was doing, well, sort of. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:30.520 I mean what I think is fascinating about you and 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.160 many other people, but fascinating about you is when I 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.280 first met you. And I was quite good at figuring 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:38.840 people out, I couldn't really figure you out because you 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.680 were like a fucking. 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:41.600 Dog with three dicks. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.520 You were all over the shop, and you were funny, 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.920 and you had good people skills and you were likable, 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.880 but you kind of didn't know what you wanted to. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.679 Do with your life. But you did a bit, but 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.839 you didn't. And but we're all young and dumb to 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:56.440 an extent. 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:58.040 It's fun times. 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:00.600 And so how long. 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.960 Did you How long did you work at Harper's give 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:05.840 or take, like as a trainer? 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:11.040 I reckon probably maybe five years, I think being Bluff 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.200 Road where we train now you know video store there, 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:18.120 maybe four or five years. And we went off and 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.640 we did sort of explored. I think we did a 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.480 couple of we did a couple of camps together, yeah, 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.880 are and one at the prom and then I moved 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:28.760 on and started doing other stuff, you know, working at 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.120 other centers there for a while. 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:34.800 But yes, I don't want to throw you under the 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:38.680 bus straight away, but I do feel like you had 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.840 been working with me for not that long and I 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.560 got a phone call. I think it was a Saturday morning. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:52.640 He wa is going, I'm at the Sandringham Hospital. Can 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:56.120 you come and pick me up? Because you'd been because 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.600 you've been bluing with some blokes in a car park 0:14:58.720 --> 0:14:59.200 or something. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:02.920 Do you remember that. 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.360 Sort of there's a little bit of alcohol involved, but 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:10.800 I can't remember. It might have been. Yeah, I did 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.960 a few of them, not many, but you know I'm not. 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:15.400 Don't go out looking for trouble, but. 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:18.160 You don't anymore. 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.840 No, Well, I remember I think I rang you and 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.520 said I can't come in today. I'm at the hospital. 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.240 I've just had my head punched in. Can you come 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:30.520 and pick me up? Something along those lines. 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.480 Yeah. How many times did I do that for mates? 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.640 Quite a few? What was I going to say to you? 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:37.720 I think? 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.280 Also another interesting part of your story worth sharing, just 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:46.120 to give our listeners context and insight, is that you 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:51.040 went through school and you grew up dealing with dyslexia, 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:55.640 and reasonably kind of high level dyslexia, if there's such 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:59.600 a thing. But but you really really struggled with reading 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:05.680 and write. What are your memories around that, good, bad, terrifying. 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:10.520 Well, obviously I didn't really look forward to going to school, 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.440 but I just had to adapt, you know, I just 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:16.120 sort of fell into and like back then, so I 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.200 mentioned me the other day, like the way they tested 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.760 whether you had a comprehension issue or you were dyslexic 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:28.000 was pretty wishy washy compared to today's days. You know, Yeah, 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.560 how did I navigate that space? I just fell into 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:35.480 playing lots of sport, like obviously art and music. I 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:42.320 became quite popular. I just remember being singled out a 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.560 lot in class and just purely not understanding what was 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:49.920 going on. Like like being in class and reading everybody's 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:54.920 reading a book. Teacher would say, okay, Stuart's stand up, 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.560 can you please read the next chapter? And I wouldn't. 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.320 It was like ants sometimes just you know, fall off 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.520 the page or and all the numbers on, you know, 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.600 like we're on page fifty seven. I get to page 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:10.520 fifty seven, paragraph too, and all the words would blend 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:12.639 blend in together, and then other kids thought I was 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.760 being funny, and it was you know, stand up, go 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.159 have a detention or leave the classroom. So I just 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.560 had to navigate that and just pretty much win it, 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:24.159 you know. So I just sort of fell into the 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:28.600 sports side and a bit of music, and I think 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:33.159 I got to maybe Form five, I don't know what 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:38.600 the year eleven, eleven, eleven, Yeah, okay, I got to 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:40.159 I think about a couple of months into that and 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.080 I said to my parents I'm done. So I got 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:50.800 out of all things, fell into a headdressing apprenticeship, which 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:52.840 is pretty funny. 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:57.399 You've cut my hair at the gym, yeah, more than 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:58.280 once or twice. 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.800 Yeah, it's coming handy. So I think I just got 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:03.399 to the point where I had enough, mate, you know, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.440 it was sort of not a waste of time and money, 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:10.040 but it was time to move on into the into 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:13.280 the hairdressing world. You know what, I know what I know. 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.639 What I noticed about you is for as long as 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.960 I've known you, Like, think about this, everyone, how you 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:25.040 won't really get this because you've only this is your debut, right, 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.080 But I've sat here literally thousands of times doing this. 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.639 I've never had a debutante. 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:35.480 More aid back or more like this is if you 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.439 and I were just talking on a zoom call with 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:38.320 no one listening. 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:40.679 This is what it would be. 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:45.960 And for you, like you've always managed to build connection 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.080 with people, build rapport, be. 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:52.040 Funny, like funny, funny, funny. 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:56.600 And just laughing. We've had some rippers. I know. It's 0:18:56.680 --> 0:19:00.360 like sometimes you and I say stuff, but we don't 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.680 actually talk. There's a lot of action. There's a lot 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:05.520 of yeah, I don't know. 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:09.119 Well, I think, yeah, there's I don't really want to 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:09.880 open that door, but. 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:11.040 Fuck it, let's open the door. 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.280 But I mean, do you know what I mean? 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.760 Well, yeah, because you and I will see something and 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:20.800 we both think similarly in some ways. It might be 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.560 a person doing something, or it might be something just 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:26.879 and we look at each other and I know both. 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:32.359 The other way. You go out checked that out, and 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.280 I've just got to walk off. I can't even look 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:36.720 in that direction to you or I know, whatever the 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:38.760 situation is, because I just fall over. 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:41.480 I don't I don't want to be at all like 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:42.960 and I wouldn't be. I don't want to be mean 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:43.920 or judge you or whatever. 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:47.520 But sometimes I just see something when we're at the gym, 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.080 and I think, oh God, I hope he doesn't see that, 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:51.600 because I hope you see that. 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.320 Yeah. I hope he doesn't look at that, because then 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:55.840 I'm fucked and I can't. 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.760 I always got in trouble for laughing in class, and 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:03.960 I I wasn't laughing at all to be rude or disruptive. 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.080 I just couldn't fucking And then when I started, then 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.119 I'd get in a bit of trouble. I was worse. 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.359 I'm like, I start to lose my shit and I 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.000 put my head in my hands, and then they'd get 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:19.119 angry and angry understandably, and then you know, I'm. 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:22.000 Fuckinging out loop you just can't get out, yeah, laughing 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:23.800 loop or no, yeah. 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.520 Yeah, I'm one of those I don't know ten percent 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:28.600 five per cent of people like you, I think too, 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:35.160 which you fucking you laugh when you shouldn't laugh. It's inappropriate, 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:37.680 And even in the moment you go, I know this 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:42.399 is inappropriate, but I fucking I can't. I literally can't, 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.120