1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:19,921 Speaker 1: Approche production. You exactly started this walk. 2 00:00:20,761 --> 00:00:24,081 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it, because mate, it's fucking huge. 3 00:00:24,121 --> 00:00:29,921 Speaker 1: I take my hat off to I'm so stoked for you. Yeah. Look, 4 00:00:30,001 --> 00:00:31,441 Speaker 1: I had a mate. 5 00:00:31,481 --> 00:00:34,121 Speaker 3: It's sad case. I had a mate and he sent 6 00:00:34,201 --> 00:00:36,601 Speaker 3: me your and Dave's podcast that you did on the 7 00:00:36,601 --> 00:00:40,121 Speaker 3: Fellon Show, and he said, check that guy out, he's 8 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: like you. And I watched it. Well, I looked at 9 00:00:43,801 --> 00:00:45,681 Speaker 3: the cover picture and then I missed him straight back. 10 00:00:45,721 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: I said, Fuck, this dude looks hardcore. Bro, I'm not 11 00:00:47,921 --> 00:00:50,801 Speaker 3: like him, but yeah, let's watch it. And I watched it, 12 00:00:50,961 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 3: and I was like, fuck, I am like him, you know, 13 00:00:53,641 --> 00:00:57,481 Speaker 3: other than obviously you went club life, but otherwise I 14 00:00:57,521 --> 00:00:59,161 Speaker 3: was just like, oh my god. And then and then 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:04,081 Speaker 3: you're talking about the cycle that you did, and and like, 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,121 Speaker 3: what got me, bro, was was when you were talking 17 00:01:07,161 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: about the cultural, the spiritual reverberation, that the feeling you got, 18 00:01:15,681 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: the the fucking energy you received whilst on that ride. 19 00:01:20,601 --> 00:01:23,001 Speaker 3: You didn't talk about the awareness you raised. You didn't 20 00:01:23,041 --> 00:01:26,001 Speaker 3: talk about how much was donated. You didn't talk about 21 00:01:26,241 --> 00:01:28,001 Speaker 3: that wasn't or I don't know if you might have. 22 00:01:28,161 --> 00:01:30,361 Speaker 3: I didn't even I didn't hear that part of it, 23 00:01:30,401 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: because all I. 24 00:01:31,161 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: Was very lightly was the fact was the energy. 25 00:01:34,441 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: That was what I was trying to achieve and getting 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,401 Speaker 2: to from from start to finish. 27 00:01:39,161 --> 00:01:42,321 Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and that's I was just like, fun, 28 00:01:42,401 --> 00:01:44,801 Speaker 3: that's what I need. That's literally what I need. And 29 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,761 Speaker 3: I said to my mate, I fuk I should do that? 30 00:01:46,801 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: And he goes, you should walk? 31 00:01:48,161 --> 00:01:48,561 Speaker 2: I know what? 32 00:01:48,601 --> 00:01:48,961 Speaker 4: Did he say? 33 00:01:49,441 --> 00:01:51,921 Speaker 3: You should scooter on a moped or something like that? 34 00:01:51,961 --> 00:01:55,321 Speaker 3: And I was like that and I said, and he 35 00:01:55,321 --> 00:01:57,041 Speaker 3: goes on bike then and I said, nah, no, no, 36 00:01:57,201 --> 00:01:58,401 Speaker 3: my hips can't handle that ship. 37 00:01:58,521 --> 00:01:58,961 Speaker 4: Fuck that. 38 00:01:59,401 --> 00:02:01,281 Speaker 3: I said, I'll walk though. Walking is easy. 39 00:02:03,241 --> 00:02:03,961 Speaker 1: Walking's easy. 40 00:02:04,001 --> 00:02:11,361 Speaker 2: I thought fucking words in the first week, didn't you. 41 00:02:09,841 --> 00:02:14,161 Speaker 1: Ma that legan fiction was fu Yeah, yeah, you took off. 42 00:02:14,401 --> 00:02:16,641 Speaker 1: You got down there. Talk us through it. 43 00:02:16,641 --> 00:02:19,441 Speaker 2: Bro, I really want you to just open that up, 44 00:02:19,481 --> 00:02:22,841 Speaker 2: because yeah, you showed a lot on your page and 45 00:02:22,881 --> 00:02:25,321 Speaker 2: your story, but there's short moments that you know, you're 46 00:02:25,361 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: just trying to bring positivity and real and energy to 47 00:02:29,761 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: people that are following your story. I mean, your story 48 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: was it was gratefully. I thought it was fantastic. People 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,681 Speaker 2: were jumping on picking up. I watched your platform go 50 00:02:37,841 --> 00:02:40,081 Speaker 2: from a couple of hundred to a couple of thousand. 51 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,041 Speaker 2: I thought that was phenomenal because that was very organic. 52 00:02:44,761 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: People weren't just jumping on because you're, you know, a fad. 53 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,201 Speaker 2: You were somebody doing something amazing. People wanted to know you. 54 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,921 Speaker 1: You showed emotion. But I think beyond all that, and 55 00:02:57,001 --> 00:02:57,721 Speaker 1: you and I've had this. 56 00:02:57,721 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: Chat before about the moments that I would scream at 57 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,761 Speaker 2: the top of my lungs and cry and yell while 58 00:03:03,761 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: I was writing to relieve. 59 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: Deep down traumas touch. Let's get into that. Let's get 60 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: into the real trip of that walk. 61 00:03:17,881 --> 00:03:21,561 Speaker 3: So, I mean, there were days where it was all 62 00:03:21,601 --> 00:03:24,121 Speaker 3: sunshine and rainbows, you know what I mean, When it 63 00:03:24,201 --> 00:03:26,681 Speaker 3: was all good, you know, short walk, twenty five k, 64 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,681 Speaker 3: thirty k whatever. Other days there was fifty seven k's 65 00:03:30,721 --> 00:03:33,081 Speaker 3: in a day was my personal best, and fifty five 66 00:03:33,161 --> 00:03:37,641 Speaker 3: kilometers in fucking torrential rain all day was another sort 67 00:03:37,681 --> 00:03:41,601 Speaker 3: of best. As far as it went. There were times 68 00:03:41,601 --> 00:03:44,481 Speaker 3: where I would stop and question what I was even 69 00:03:44,521 --> 00:03:50,761 Speaker 3: fucking up to, Like like I'd post something and then 70 00:03:50,761 --> 00:03:53,801 Speaker 3: i'd watch my post again or the next day and 71 00:03:53,841 --> 00:03:56,361 Speaker 3: I'd listened to myself and I'd be like fuck, you 72 00:03:56,401 --> 00:04:02,801 Speaker 3: can never take that back. You're like putting yourself that's 73 00:04:02,801 --> 00:04:05,601 Speaker 3: on the internet now, it's never coming back for this walk. 74 00:04:05,601 --> 00:04:08,721 Speaker 3: I've never been on social media. One of my fears 75 00:04:08,841 --> 00:04:11,361 Speaker 3: was because my offender used it. Back then it was 76 00:04:11,561 --> 00:04:14,601 Speaker 3: as a camera, but he used to develop his own film. 77 00:04:14,641 --> 00:04:18,601 Speaker 3: So yeah, the camera was part of my abuse anyway. 78 00:04:18,801 --> 00:04:19,361 Speaker 4: So I was. 79 00:04:19,281 --> 00:04:22,281 Speaker 3: Worried about facial recognition. I don't fucking know him still 80 00:04:22,281 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 3: being out there whatever anyway. So I'm new to social media. 81 00:04:25,481 --> 00:04:27,321 Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck, I'm putting myself right out there. I'm 82 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:27,961 Speaker 3: so vulnerable. 83 00:04:28,001 --> 00:04:28,681 Speaker 4: This that. 84 00:04:30,601 --> 00:04:32,321 Speaker 3: Is this the right thing to do is in it, 85 00:04:32,481 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: you know. And this was all in the first couple 86 00:04:33,961 --> 00:04:34,361 Speaker 3: of weeks. 87 00:04:34,801 --> 00:04:35,961 Speaker 1: We had this conversation. 88 00:04:36,041 --> 00:04:37,961 Speaker 2: And remember remember you were saying to me, Bro, I've 89 00:04:37,961 --> 00:04:38,961 Speaker 2: got to start this page. 90 00:04:38,961 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: You know, what do I do? And how did I 91 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,001 Speaker 1: go about it? 92 00:04:41,081 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: And it was, you know, most people our age, or 93 00:04:45,721 --> 00:04:48,161 Speaker 2: you know, in this generation, pretty switched on when it 94 00:04:48,161 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: comes to using your platforms and social media. 95 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: You were very raw, you you were legit when we 96 00:04:53,561 --> 00:04:55,041 Speaker 1: first started talking about this war. 97 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,081 Speaker 2: You you were nervous, you didn't you didn't know how 98 00:04:58,161 --> 00:04:59,561 Speaker 2: best to go about it at all. 99 00:05:00,801 --> 00:05:01,961 Speaker 1: Yeah, you did a great job. 100 00:05:03,241 --> 00:05:05,361 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it ended up it ended up awesome. 101 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,961 Speaker 3: It ended up awesome, And I've become, i guess, in 102 00:05:09,041 --> 00:05:11,361 Speaker 3: the end of quite a natural chatting to my phone 103 00:05:11,481 --> 00:05:13,601 Speaker 3: and walking down the road like a madman. You know, 104 00:05:14,081 --> 00:05:16,361 Speaker 3: I sort of put it into it, fucking mad man. 105 00:05:16,521 --> 00:05:25,001 Speaker 4: Yeah, I challenge anyone else and New's having a cow 106 00:05:25,081 --> 00:05:26,921 Speaker 4: call competition, mate, I'll smoke you. 107 00:05:27,361 --> 00:05:30,241 Speaker 3: I had Cocky Cocky's messaging me, going, how the fuck 108 00:05:30,241 --> 00:05:30,841 Speaker 3: are you doing that? 109 00:05:33,241 --> 00:05:36,001 Speaker 2: You'd be walking along for anyone that didn't see Sam's journey, 110 00:05:36,121 --> 00:05:39,601 Speaker 2: So let me put in prospective. Obviously, New Zealand's got 111 00:05:39,601 --> 00:05:42,921 Speaker 2: plenty of cattle, especially the South. 112 00:05:44,281 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: Every time he'd walk. 113 00:05:45,721 --> 00:05:48,361 Speaker 2: Past a fence or gate, he had this thing where 114 00:05:48,361 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: he'd talk to the cow. 115 00:05:50,521 --> 00:05:54,041 Speaker 1: And they would fucking just all come over to me. 116 00:05:55,001 --> 00:05:57,281 Speaker 1: It doesn't happen like that. You know, you're a strange 117 00:05:57,961 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: cow whisperer. My thing was with the goats. 118 00:06:00,361 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: I had goats and hundreds and hundreds of goats just 119 00:06:03,761 --> 00:06:06,041 Speaker 2: all along the roadside, and you could see him and 120 00:06:06,081 --> 00:06:07,121 Speaker 2: the Sammis had come. 121 00:06:07,001 --> 00:06:09,041 Speaker 1: Past, it wouldn't fucking Budge wouldn't move. 122 00:06:09,601 --> 00:06:12,721 Speaker 2: But yet my bike, the sound of my bike, which 123 00:06:12,761 --> 00:06:14,401 Speaker 2: wasn't loud, but they picked up on it. 124 00:06:15,201 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: They would scamp us. 125 00:06:16,241 --> 00:06:18,121 Speaker 2: So next minute, I've got all these fucking goats just 126 00:06:18,201 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: running all out in front of me, and the big 127 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,841 Speaker 2: billy goes with these horns, and it was fucked up. 128 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,161 Speaker 1: You, on the other hand, you had them all on 129 00:06:25,201 --> 00:06:28,241 Speaker 1: their knees made mewing to you, like bowing again. 130 00:06:30,361 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a couple of lambs, lambs coming up 131 00:06:33,481 --> 00:06:38,881 Speaker 3: and barring at me, horses caught in a few horses. 132 00:06:40,961 --> 00:06:41,721 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good. 133 00:06:41,761 --> 00:06:44,121 Speaker 3: It was good. But you know, those are the things 134 00:06:44,121 --> 00:06:47,041 Speaker 3: that I was posting. You know, there wasn't. I wasn't 135 00:06:47,041 --> 00:06:50,161 Speaker 3: posting the times. I was sat under trees crying. You know, 136 00:06:50,241 --> 00:06:53,921 Speaker 3: I wasn't posting the times I was fucking rubbing the 137 00:06:53,921 --> 00:06:56,041 Speaker 3: fucking out of my carves at three o'clock in the afternoon, 138 00:06:56,121 --> 00:06:59,201 Speaker 3: chicking Google Maps, and I've still got fifteen k's to go, 139 00:06:59,641 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? I wasn't posting the times. 140 00:07:03,561 --> 00:07:06,921 Speaker 3: I mean, I'd take a photo of my feet in 141 00:07:07,001 --> 00:07:09,801 Speaker 3: a bath of water, you know, or my blisters, but 142 00:07:10,281 --> 00:07:12,001 Speaker 3: you know those feet would stay in that water for 143 00:07:12,001 --> 00:07:17,521 Speaker 3: about another four hours, you know what I mean? Like, Yeah, 144 00:07:18,441 --> 00:07:20,281 Speaker 3: it was a lot, bro It was a lot, you know, 145 00:07:22,601 --> 00:07:27,801 Speaker 3: you know, missing the kids, like fuck, I missed I 146 00:07:27,881 --> 00:07:34,041 Speaker 3: missed three birthdays. Three birthdays, yeah, three missed three birthdays brother, 147 00:07:34,081 --> 00:07:36,481 Speaker 3: And it was looking like at the start, it was 148 00:07:36,521 --> 00:07:37,001 Speaker 3: looking like. 149 00:07:36,961 --> 00:07:39,041 Speaker 1: I was going to miss Christmas because we weren't in 150 00:07:39,081 --> 00:07:39,881 Speaker 1: a position for everyone. 151 00:07:39,921 --> 00:07:42,281 Speaker 3: We couldn't find anywhere anywhere for everyone to come up 152 00:07:42,441 --> 00:07:43,401 Speaker 3: to the finish line. 153 00:07:43,601 --> 00:07:45,681 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about this then when this was going 154 00:07:45,721 --> 00:07:48,561 Speaker 2: to be a big thing for you, and I actually was. 155 00:07:48,801 --> 00:07:52,801 Speaker 2: I really felt for him because I got the birthdays. 156 00:07:52,801 --> 00:07:54,921 Speaker 2: I missed my daughter's birthday while I was on the road, 157 00:07:54,961 --> 00:07:57,241 Speaker 2: and you know, like thankfully I was hoping for Chris. 158 00:07:57,241 --> 00:07:59,561 Speaker 2: But I actually I had my fortieth on the Nuther Boar. 159 00:08:00,241 --> 00:08:02,401 Speaker 2: I was cycling across the null bar on my own 160 00:08:02,681 --> 00:08:03,921 Speaker 2: for my fortieth birthday. 161 00:08:04,081 --> 00:08:05,841 Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it. 162 00:08:06,001 --> 00:08:10,481 Speaker 2: But you know, you're talking about a time where you 163 00:08:10,561 --> 00:08:12,281 Speaker 2: need to be home with the family, you know, like 164 00:08:12,321 --> 00:08:15,521 Speaker 2: it's Christmas Day and here you are sacrificing that your 165 00:08:15,561 --> 00:08:18,761 Speaker 2: family's sacrificing their dad not being there for you to 166 00:08:18,921 --> 00:08:20,641 Speaker 2: raise awareness. 167 00:08:21,521 --> 00:08:22,841 Speaker 1: Around sexual abuse. 168 00:08:23,321 --> 00:08:27,121 Speaker 2: And that that right there shows character, that right there 169 00:08:27,201 --> 00:08:30,241 Speaker 2: shows strength, that right there puts it in perspective of 170 00:08:30,281 --> 00:08:33,401 Speaker 2: your commitment to what you were trying to do. 171 00:08:34,001 --> 00:08:40,161 Speaker 1: We talk about redemption. That's a powerful redemption right there. Yeah, 172 00:08:40,161 --> 00:08:43,161 Speaker 1: you know I sold, I sold my tools. 173 00:08:44,241 --> 00:08:46,921 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was willing to go without Christmas with the 174 00:08:46,921 --> 00:08:50,961 Speaker 3: family that with our original budget when we actually started 175 00:08:51,001 --> 00:08:54,601 Speaker 3: walking before, we got some some generous and I'm so 176 00:08:54,681 --> 00:08:56,641 Speaker 3: appreciative to everyone that that donated to the give a 177 00:08:56,681 --> 00:08:59,121 Speaker 3: little because they got us through. We would have been 178 00:08:59,161 --> 00:09:02,041 Speaker 3: stuck halfway basically, well, we would have been stuck about Taupo, 179 00:09:02,081 --> 00:09:03,481 Speaker 3: halfway up the north. We would have ran out of 180 00:09:03,521 --> 00:09:07,441 Speaker 3: money completely. But you know, I was willing to catch 181 00:09:07,481 --> 00:09:08,721 Speaker 3: a bus when I got to the top. I was 182 00:09:08,721 --> 00:09:10,921 Speaker 3: going to get to the top. None of my family 183 00:09:10,921 --> 00:09:12,321 Speaker 3: were going to be there, none of my friends were 184 00:09:12,361 --> 00:09:12,921 Speaker 3: going to be there. 185 00:09:13,281 --> 00:09:14,321 Speaker 1: I was going to get to the top. 186 00:09:14,401 --> 00:09:16,401 Speaker 3: Then I was going to hitch hike back one hundred 187 00:09:16,401 --> 00:09:18,281 Speaker 3: and thirty kilometers to the town called Kaititia. 188 00:09:18,641 --> 00:09:22,081 Speaker 2: And he and he hiked back. You just walked from 189 00:09:22,121 --> 00:09:24,561 Speaker 2: the fucking bottom of New Zealand top and you still 190 00:09:24,561 --> 00:09:28,521 Speaker 2: have a fucking hitch hike home with New Zealand. 191 00:09:28,561 --> 00:09:31,801 Speaker 1: Seriously, this man's just fucking an idol to the country. 192 00:09:32,201 --> 00:09:33,761 Speaker 1: Give the man a fucking helicopter. 193 00:09:34,481 --> 00:09:36,801 Speaker 3: What I was going to sit on a bus mate 194 00:09:37,081 --> 00:09:38,601 Speaker 3: seven hour? I was going to sit on a bus 195 00:09:38,641 --> 00:09:40,161 Speaker 3: for seven and a half hours to get home. 196 00:09:40,281 --> 00:09:41,081 Speaker 1: Oh God, bless you. 197 00:09:42,161 --> 00:09:44,281 Speaker 3: And that was booked in for New Year's Eve. So 198 00:09:44,321 --> 00:09:46,041 Speaker 3: we booked that ticket because we didn't want to lose it. 199 00:09:46,041 --> 00:09:48,521 Speaker 3: But we never needed to use it because we had 200 00:09:48,561 --> 00:09:52,041 Speaker 3: some generous donations and also the foundation that I was 201 00:09:53,281 --> 00:09:55,681 Speaker 3: sort of ended up promoting too. I get my counseling 202 00:09:55,721 --> 00:09:58,321 Speaker 3: through and they're the biggest service provider of sexual abuse 203 00:09:58,361 --> 00:10:01,361 Speaker 3: trauma counseling in New Zealand. They come to the party 204 00:10:01,481 --> 00:10:03,881 Speaker 3: and they gave me some some generous donations as well. 205 00:10:03,921 --> 00:10:05,841 Speaker 3: They ended up putting U through about five or six 206 00:10:05,881 --> 00:10:08,641 Speaker 3: grand through, which was amazing, you know. So that that 207 00:10:08,721 --> 00:10:11,681 Speaker 3: meant that my family could be there at the end. Yeah, 208 00:10:12,321 --> 00:10:14,641 Speaker 3: you know, we had a special time in the Far 209 00:10:14,721 --> 00:10:16,881 Speaker 3: North for that for that last week. You know, I 210 00:10:17,001 --> 00:10:19,681 Speaker 3: got to spend Christmas Day with them. It also meant 211 00:10:19,681 --> 00:10:21,281 Speaker 3: that I got to power through the walk and I 212 00:10:21,361 --> 00:10:24,721 Speaker 3: pushed a bit harder and I finished the day day 213 00:10:24,721 --> 00:10:26,041 Speaker 3: and a half earlier than expected. 214 00:10:26,081 --> 00:10:28,081 Speaker 2: So how awesome is that little bit of a help 215 00:10:28,081 --> 00:10:30,601 Speaker 2: I mean, I've got to be honest. I was blessed 216 00:10:30,641 --> 00:10:32,521 Speaker 2: with I mean, don't get me wrong with my wife. 217 00:10:32,561 --> 00:10:35,121 Speaker 2: And I had to go into a fair bit of 218 00:10:35,161 --> 00:10:37,761 Speaker 2: debt to to do the walk, to do the right 219 00:10:37,921 --> 00:10:40,481 Speaker 2: because you know, anyone of the things that just going 220 00:10:40,521 --> 00:10:43,001 Speaker 2: out and doing something like that is cheap. You're leaving 221 00:10:43,001 --> 00:10:45,481 Speaker 2: a whole family behind. They've got to they've got to survive. 222 00:10:45,521 --> 00:10:48,521 Speaker 2: There's bills to pay, you know, you're on the road, 223 00:10:48,721 --> 00:10:50,161 Speaker 2: there's so much more. 224 00:10:50,401 --> 00:10:54,041 Speaker 1: Like people have no idea, you know. 225 00:10:54,081 --> 00:10:57,601 Speaker 2: And I was blessed with assistance with one of my bikes, 226 00:10:57,881 --> 00:11:02,201 Speaker 2: actually two of my bikes. I had, you know, wonderful 227 00:11:02,241 --> 00:11:04,161 Speaker 2: people along the way that would pay for a night's 228 00:11:04,161 --> 00:11:08,641 Speaker 2: accommodation hotel in advance. So when I got there, you know, 229 00:11:08,721 --> 00:11:12,041 Speaker 2: things like that, and you never forget those people. And 230 00:11:12,041 --> 00:11:16,721 Speaker 2: and you know, there was just the hardcore battler out 231 00:11:16,761 --> 00:11:18,721 Speaker 2: there that would look in and just say, I want 232 00:11:18,761 --> 00:11:20,441 Speaker 2: to do something to help this person. 233 00:11:20,481 --> 00:11:22,761 Speaker 1: And they're the people that you're doing it. 234 00:11:22,721 --> 00:11:25,081 Speaker 2: Like you do it for everyone, but the little people 235 00:11:25,121 --> 00:11:27,601 Speaker 2: were I found that the little people were the ones 236 00:11:27,641 --> 00:11:31,041 Speaker 2: that wanted to help the most, not the corporates or 237 00:11:31,081 --> 00:11:31,721 Speaker 2: anybody like. 238 00:11:31,641 --> 00:11:33,761 Speaker 1: No one gave a fuck, you know, but. 239 00:11:33,761 --> 00:11:36,561 Speaker 2: The actual person that was out there just doing their 240 00:11:36,641 --> 00:11:39,361 Speaker 2: best struggling was the one that had fined five or 241 00:11:39,361 --> 00:11:42,321 Speaker 2: ten bucks to help you shout your feed at a 242 00:11:42,361 --> 00:11:48,081 Speaker 2: place or you know, and that that idea is priceless.