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Speaker 1: High Scrollers is produced on Gaddigle Land.

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Speaker 2: We pay our respects to the traditional custodians of this

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Speaker 2: country and elders past and present.

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Speaker 1: We extend our respect to any first nations Aboriginal and

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Speaker 1: Torres Strait Island of people joining us today.

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Speaker 2: Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land.

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Speaker 1: I got something that I need to ask you about

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Speaker 1: because I think there's something that everyone's got wrong. And

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Speaker 1: it's about demerit points.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, an interesting way to start the class

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Speaker 2: about this episode.

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Speaker 1: About demerit points.

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Speaker 2: Everyone, demerit points, you know what, That's what you come

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Speaker 2: here for. You come here for the real hot topics, well,

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Speaker 2: the topics that just you dye and to know about.

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Speaker 2: And I reckon that the top not at the top

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Speaker 2: of this maybe second or third on the list demerit points.

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Speaker 2: So let's chat about it.

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Speaker 1: People have got demerit points wrong. Why did you know

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Speaker 1: that you have no demerit points? And then you gain them, You.

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Speaker 2: Gain them, and you can gain up to thirteen and

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Speaker 2: then you lose your license.

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Speaker 1: Everyone that I talk to thinks you start with thirteen

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Speaker 1: and then you lose de merit.

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Speaker 2: And so it's in the name demerit and so everyone's like,

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Speaker 2: it's not a merit point, it's a demerit point. You're

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Speaker 2: getting a point for doing the wrong thing.

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Speaker 1: It makes no sense, right because everyone that I speak

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Speaker 1: to about it is like, yeah, I've lost this many points,

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Speaker 1: but don't lose points, you gain them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I see what you're saying, Like I lost four points.

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Speaker 1: You didn't lose four points, you gained four point.

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Speaker 2: No, they did lose four points because they've got thirteen.

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Speaker 2: See here's the tricky thing, because I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: You're gaining the four points, but they lost four.

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Speaker 1: Points out of the thirty. No.

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Speaker 2: See, how do I explain this? How do I dumb

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Speaker 2: it down? Because I know what I'm trying to say,

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Speaker 2: but I can't say it. The words aren't for me.

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Speaker 2: So when they say I lost four points, that actually

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Speaker 2: is still correct terminology and the correct way to say it.

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Speaker 2: Because but they haven't lost four demerit points, but they've

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Speaker 2: lost four of their thirteen points.

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Speaker 1: See, but I have zero points.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, But you have an allocation of up to thirteen.

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Speaker 2: So if you gain four demerit points, you have lost

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Speaker 2: four points.

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Speaker 1: Why does it have to be that way. Why can't

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Speaker 1: everyone just have thirteen and then you lose them and

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Speaker 1: when you get to zero, then you've lost your license.

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Speaker 1: Why do you have to get to thirteen?

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Speaker 2: Because I think if you get more than thirteen, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, but what happens then, because if you get

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Speaker 2: twelve to jail, I don't think you go to jail.

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Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is like, if you were at

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Speaker 2: twelve and then you know on double demerits, let's say

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Speaker 2: you got six demerit points for whatever you did wrong,

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Speaker 2: then you're at eighteen demerit points, even though the limit

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I got another question. While we're

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Speaker 1: on the topic of double demerits. You know how when

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Speaker 1: it's double demerits long leaking, jove bug and safe, why

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Speaker 1: don't they just do double demerits all the time?

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Speaker 2: Then? I think it desensitizes everyone. And I think at

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Speaker 2: the point is is that more accidents happen on those

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Speaker 2: weekends because more people are on the roads and more

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Speaker 2: people are likely to drink drive. True, So I think

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Speaker 2: that's probably the answer. They're sorry, I get it. You

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Speaker 2: probably wanted me to go back and forth with you

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Speaker 2: there and go. I don't know, but.

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Speaker 1: I and also I also think about speeding cameras. Uh huh,

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Speaker 1: Like I know there's obviously rules around them, you know

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Speaker 1: how they have to have like the two warning signs

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Speaker 1: they are. They just slow it down.

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Speaker 2: This is so funny. I love this episode. The speed

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Speaker 2: cameras are not there to trick you into catching you speeding.

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Speaker 2: It's put in problem areas so that everyone slows down.

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Speaker 2: They need you to know about the slop speed cameras.

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Speaker 1: Wh don't we just have them everywhere so then everyone

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Speaker 1: just drives normal? Why don't people just drive fucking normal?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Agree, normal, but speed cameras are yeah, put in

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Speaker 2: places I am.

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Speaker 1: Normal the whole America troop because there's this really old clip.

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Speaker 1: Surely everyone knows Cheryl and Barnes.

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Speaker 2: I don't reckon everyone does.

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Speaker 1: There's Cheryl and Barnes. Just look her up and there

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Speaker 1: was this clip that she made like years and years ago,

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Speaker 1: like in the YouTube days, because that's how long Cheryln's

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Speaker 1: been around for Shout out Chryln. By the way, not

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Speaker 1: that I think she listens to every episode of ours.

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Speaker 2: I don't think she listens to any episode.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to send this to her because she

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Speaker 1: always picks on me on my lives. And so it

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Speaker 1: was in the era of a lot of the big

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Speaker 1: American YouTubers like doing a coming out video. People are

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Speaker 1: gonna find this funny because you just got to know Chryln.

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Speaker 1: So there was like, who was in it, Tyler Oakley,

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Speaker 1: I'm gay, I'm gay, I'm by and then she goes

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Speaker 1: and I'm normal like you.

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Speaker 2: I just love it. She literally she used to say

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Speaker 1: You have no Chryln anyway. I don't know. I saw

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Speaker 1: it pop up on TikTok and it was when we

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Speaker 1: were in America. I'm then the whole tripe. I just

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Speaker 1: it made me realize how much I use the word

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Speaker 1: normal in my everyday language. And then to the whole truth,

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, that is so normal. Normal anyway, fucking

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Speaker 1: drive safely everyone. That is the key messaging of this episode,

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Speaker 1: sponsored by New South Wales Roads. It's no, it's not,

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Speaker 1: it's over there, like no.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: If you thought that you start with points and lose them,

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Speaker 1: you're wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but technically you do lose points.

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Speaker 1: But you start with zero end if you go on

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Speaker 1: to like your service New South Wales app or whatever

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Speaker 1: app you use.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Do the other states have apps?

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Speaker 2: Who knows?

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Speaker 1: Did you know?

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Speaker 2: I heard Victoria doesn't do double demerits?

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Speaker 1: Don't they?

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Speaker 2: That's not a thing?

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Speaker 1: And don't they not have tolls?

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong here, but they don't have tolls.

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Speaker 2: Came with the fuck down there because the amount of

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Speaker 1: Yes, I have been driving for the last two years

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Speaker 1: for this podcast and it costs me, Yeah, forty bucks

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Speaker 2: he'd get and then he just would pay it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So I didn't think about it because it was so

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Speaker 2: you can set the amount that loads onto it. So

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Speaker 1: The last people that live there, because it costs me

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Speaker 2: You know why we pay tolls right? And how that works?

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Speaker 2: Because I didn't know this and they found it really interesting.

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Speaker 2: So from my understanding, the government has employees a construction

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Speaker 2: So basically the government goes, hello, we need you to

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Speaker 2: I hate it, but I found it interesting.

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Speaker 1: I thought I just went to the government and they

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Speaker 1: use it for whatever the fuck they want.

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Speaker 2: I think that they must take a cut of some sort.

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Speaker 2: And also, don't quote me. It could be fucking wrong.

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Speaker 2: Half the shit I saund on this podcast I make up.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, this is a fake news podcast. If I'd ever

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Speaker 1: seen what I was just confidently saying everything that is

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Speaker 1: so wrong.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, as I was saying in News South Wales,

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Speaker 1: we have the service New South Wales app. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: go on to it and then you can literally just

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Speaker 1: many points you do have. And then if you've never

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Speaker 1: gotten like a fine or whatever, you've got zero.

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Speaker 2: Have you got any fines? No ever in your life?

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Speaker 1: Parking fines. Yeah, I've gotten parking plants, but never got

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, So you've never lost any Tomerit points.

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Speaker 1: No, I've never gained any because it's zero. But it

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Speaker 2: Lost my license.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize you have to gain them in the app.

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Speaker 2: Right. Okay, yeah, yeah, sorry to go back to America again.

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Speaker 2: But have you found that since you have gotten home

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Speaker 2: it's not so bad on the roads. Yeah, But on

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Speaker 1: At the shops, I haven't really hoped anywhere noticed.

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Speaker 1: Have been walking around my house, I.

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Speaker 2: Have been walking on the wrong side of the path.

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Speaker 1: I hate it over there, I hate it. I hate

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Speaker 1: going on the other side, like, yeah, they drive on

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Speaker 2: So oh yeah, that's what you're saying, so you know, okay, yes,

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Speaker 2: But what I have learned is I feel you can

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Speaker 1: Right? What?

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Speaker 2: Why are we? Why are we laughing at that team?

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Speaker 2: Sorry? I can I just look at someone and go American.

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Speaker 2: Talk and he was, yeah, you know what's funny is

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Speaker 2: The strangest thing happened. I get a DM later that

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Speaker 1: It was the same guy that I saw at Sydney

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Speaker 1: They are all the way over at the domestic side.

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Speaker 1: They're not just there, like you don't just walk out

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Speaker 2: Second, what the bloody heck are you going on about?

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Speaker 2: I think you landed at an awful time, because my.

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Speaker 1: I must have my mind was seamless, No, mine was chaos.

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Speaker 2: Did you do uber X or the other one the

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Speaker 1: The driver yeah, which I was short, but the line,

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Speaker 2: A really awful time anyway, because I.

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Speaker 1: Got up that you have to pick up the car

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Speaker 1: at the other side of the airport. Yeah, and there's

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Speaker 1: no like true, there's no shuttle bus or anything to

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Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. I reckon. I got off my plane

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Speaker 2: and was in my Uber within about twelve minutes.

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Speaker 1: No, I was there for an hour and a half.

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Speaker 2: Crazy, Yeah, and I just got my Uber. I did

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Speaker 2: I find and there.

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Speaker 1: Must be a new thing, the uber x thing where

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Speaker 1: you don't book and there's like staff there from Uber

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Speaker 1: and they like tell you where to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Melbourne does it really well too in Melbourne and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've got that zone or the zones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you go to the zone, you know what. Lax

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Speaker 2: was great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good.

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Speaker 2: They have a huge car park and everyone goes there.

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Speaker 2: First of all, we had to get on a shot

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Speaker 2: and then it's like row twenty one abcd EF, you know,

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Speaker 2: Uber and then it says, oh sorry, no we select.

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Speaker 2: So it said where would you like to be picked

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Speaker 2: that someone else has booked. Yeah, so just so seamless.

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Speaker 2: As I said, some things they do in that country,

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Speaker 2: I think this is genius, and other things I go,

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Speaker 2: what the bloody fucking heck is going on in here?

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Speaker 1: To that? I love anyway, See you next Tuesday,