Speaker 1: How I Welcome to the day Teller Error podcast on
Speaker 1: Brent reed On a bit snippling apologies, joined by Tyson
Speaker 1: Jackson Pam Whaling twice in Jackson, I got the struggle
Speaker 1: you out. I'm stuffed up anyway? You been good? Yeah? Good?
Speaker 1: What do you think I know? On Thursday? But it's
Speaker 1: near for it really yeah, it's for me.
Speaker 2: I love it, like all little bits and pieces in there.
Speaker 3: I like the memorabilia.
Speaker 1: I just realized I'd like to see the Queensland jersey somewhere.
Speaker 4: Please the Queensland half a scarf, Just half a scarf.
Speaker 1: We'll take that up. We don't deserve the jersey or
Speaker 1: scuff after where we played last Wednesday. Anyway, footy on
Speaker 1: the weekend we should start. Let's start with the Roosters
Speaker 1: Tigers game. Roosters a game they've been outstanding the past
Speaker 1: month or so. But the big news out of that
Speaker 1: game is probably Jerry Marno a couple of fractured bones
Speaker 1: in his hand need surgery to be out for four
Speaker 1: to five weeks. Huge blow for the for the rust
Speaker 1: of Joey, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Huge, huge blow.
Speaker 4: He's obviously probably their best player, isn't he so they're
Speaker 4: absolutely flying at the moment though, But over the last
Speaker 4: couple of years, do you reckon they've had so many
Speaker 4: injuries and then have just been able to cover them.
Speaker 4: They just have had such a bad run.
Speaker 2: But yeah, how long is he out for? Four weeks?
Speaker 1: Four to five weeks? Are saying surgery four to five weeks.
Speaker 1: So it is one area there that they are reasonably well.
Speaker 1: Billy Smiths out as well, I suppose, and Joey Joke's
Speaker 1: SU's still got I think a week to go on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was going to say the reason were deep there,
Speaker 1: but they've actually got some injuries.
Speaker 4: Yeahs as well as Yeah he's out too.
Speaker 3: And is suspended as well.
Speaker 1: Yes, yep. So concerned for you, Tys or not really?
Speaker 3: I think that the Rusters are saying to click clack.
Speaker 5: I think we've we saw similarly in twenty eighteen, twenty
Speaker 5: nineteen when they won the comps. So yeah, like I'm
Speaker 5: not too concerned because I think around the park they've
Speaker 5: got places to cover. I think if they end up
Speaker 5: having to put Michael Jennings in there, they can still
Speaker 5: get the job done or whoever they really call up
Speaker 5: with the Risks. It's almost like that penwith mentality next
Speaker 5: next man in. At the moment they're on so much
Speaker 5: of a high I think will take more than Joe
Speaker 5: Manto getting injured to.
Speaker 1: Really be a bad time to make a Penrith reference.
Speaker 1: But we'll get to their may.
Speaker 2: What's the draw like over the next couple of Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was playing.
Speaker 1: I don't think it really matters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so either.
Speaker 1: I mean Brandon's Smith's been back last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: I think he's been standing for the Brandon.
Speaker 3: Smith Victor Radley at second row.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is interesting. I always thought he was really
Speaker 1: good in the thirteen, but he's been greater on the edge,
Speaker 1: isn't he.
Speaker 5: I think just Robinson's fighting a way to fit kind
Speaker 5: of their best thirteen on the field. And that's I
Speaker 5: think with Connor Watson on there, because Connor has been
Speaker 5: playing out of his skin as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so they have the Dragons and then a bye,
Speaker 4: so that's during Origin and then Melbourne and then Manly.
Speaker 1: That's a big game that Melbourne. Yeah, Robbo's record against
Speaker 1: Craig Bellamy is horrific. I think he's lost a heap
Speaker 1: in a row.
Speaker 4: So that would be that would be Origin players backing up,
Speaker 4: So that's on the Saturday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they might rest a few both both those
Speaker 1: teams in that game. But yeah, the way they play,
Speaker 1: they just spit rampant at times, and you know, they
Speaker 1: they just got so much strike, haven't they, particularly they're
Speaker 1: outside backs. But the other guy, Angus Crichton's been killing it.
Speaker 1: He's close to doing a two year deal there. They
Speaker 1: expect that to be done in the next twenty four
Speaker 1: to forty eight hours. Obviously that's huge for them, but
Speaker 1: it means probably Satilly pana Leaves he played, he played
Speaker 1: sending us. Yeah, yeah, so, I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 1: is there any concerned that that might be a bit
Speaker 1: of a disruption for them?
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. Not. I don't think so.
Speaker 5: I mean, you're just like I said before, everyone's just
Speaker 5: striking at the right time. This is this is where
Speaker 5: kind of premierships are won and losses in this middle
Speaker 5: part of the season, especially round Origin. So I can't
Speaker 5: really see any disruption to the Roosters at the moment.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm the Tigers of what's memorable, memorized by what
Speaker 5: I'll get.
Speaker 1: To them.
Speaker 4: PTSD. Yeah, I don't think so either. I think yeah,
Speaker 4: I was. I had my doubts about the Rusters at
Speaker 4: the start of this year. I think maybe it was
Speaker 4: fair to just considering, you know, last year and they
Speaker 4: still kind of have the same roster. They added in
Speaker 4: Dom Young obviously, but wow, they've just really clicked together
Speaker 4: this year, even though they've obviously had some they've been
Speaker 4: pretty hit pretty hard with injuries in that back line.
Speaker 4: They're the type of team that you just trust to
Speaker 4: scrape through.
Speaker 1: It's interest for that back line. Because the world card
Speaker 1: and all this, I suppose is Mark. I've got to
Speaker 1: get his name right. I've financially done here. So let's
Speaker 1: look at No. One. Ni Tawasi, the rugby young Wallaby's kid,
Speaker 1: is the russ signing for next year. They're trying to
Speaker 1: get he's going to the Olympic Olympics. We believe we're
Speaker 1: going to the Olympics with the seventh team. The rooster
Speaker 1: are trying to get an exemption for him to sign
Speaker 1: for them and then after the Olympics are over, come
Speaker 1: back and play for them. Now, normally this wouldn't be allowed,
Speaker 1: right because there's a June thirty cutoff. You've got to
Speaker 1: be signed and registered before June thirty. I think that
Speaker 1: obviously today's July won. As I said, they're trying to
Speaker 1: get an exemption for him come back and play. Do
Speaker 1: we have an issue with that? Do you have a
Speaker 1: concern that they make an exception for they're automating excepts
Speaker 1: for the russ which Josua Lee to play before he
Speaker 1: was eighteen. Now you've got potentially Mark Norngan. It's no
Speaker 1: longer need to ARSI coming back and helping them in
Speaker 1: the run in the finals. Any concerns, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's fair.
Speaker 2: I think that's a rule for a reason.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that. I don't I don't think.
Speaker 5: I don't think they need him. So what's it's like,
Speaker 5: we're just bringing someone in to say we've got him
Speaker 5: for this year, like and realistically, well, I think.
Speaker 1: The idea is get him in so you can upscale
Speaker 1: him so he's ready next for the start of the
Speaker 1: next year.
Speaker 5: There's no rules you can't start training with them. There's
Speaker 5: no rule against that because clubs bringing people to train.
Speaker 3: With them all the time. So people who does Mark take.
Speaker 5: Out of that rooster's side At the moment, I can't
Speaker 5: really see anyone. When Joey comes back, Sowali comes back,
Speaker 5: he'll be in there. When man Who comes back, he'll
Speaker 5: be in there. Tupo and Dom Young aren't going anywhere.
Speaker 5: You're not moving him to fullback, So where are you
Speaker 5: using him? You're just bringing him in to be an
Speaker 5: extra number. I think for the Rusters there's no point
Speaker 5: going through the headache of trying to get him over
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts.
Speaker 1: I'm a bit with you. The only issue is if
Speaker 1: they get an injury potentially comes into contention, If you're
Speaker 1: give him the exemption so he's allowed to play potentially,
Speaker 1: then you know, I think it probably creates a little
Speaker 1: bit an unfair.
Speaker 2: That's what I think.
Speaker 4: If he's going to be eligible to play, yeah, then
Speaker 4: I think that that's not really fair.
Speaker 5: If they went on a horrid injury runs, it's a
Speaker 5: different story. Right now, they've lost all their outside backs.
Speaker 5: You can kind of be like, well, maybe they could
Speaker 5: use him, but there's no need for him currently. So
Speaker 5: in three months time, when their team's probably going to
Speaker 5: be more healthy than it is right now, there's gonna
Speaker 5: be no need for him then either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about your Tigers I've been pretty good
Speaker 1: the last few weeks. This was a bit of a
Speaker 1: slap in the face. Were you obviously a couple of
Speaker 1: sin binsuring the game?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Was this this huge step back? Or was this because
Speaker 1: they had the teams they've beat and they hadn't I
Speaker 1: think there was the Titans and the Raiders, two teams
Speaker 1: who hadn't exactly been playing well, and then the next
Speaker 1: three weeks they've got tough games in the Melbourne. After this,
Speaker 1: I think they were cranella. So this is a real
Speaker 1: test the next three weeks. Was this worse than you'd
Speaker 1: hoped to be?
Speaker 5: Or every year that I see that rooster's game get
Speaker 5: brought up, I'm always kind of scared because I don't
Speaker 5: know what it is. But no matter how good we're
Speaker 5: doing at a time, how poorly roosters doing vice versa,
Speaker 5: they always just managed to put a score on us.
Speaker 5: I'm not one to believe in those kind of myths
Speaker 5: or anything, but it just does happen. But look, I
Speaker 5: thought after that first half the completions were quite high.
Speaker 3: The Tigers, just like the Risks were just better. I
Speaker 3: think there were. Then the second half comes along and
Speaker 3: you bring.
Speaker 5: In there at one point there's eleven on the field
Speaker 5: and silly penalties. I think they've got eleven twelve simbinnings
Speaker 5: now for the year. Like it just adds up and
Speaker 5: it compiles.
Speaker 2: It's frustrated, frustrating.
Speaker 5: I think yesterday, yesterday, yesterday's ones were I mean, Appys
Speaker 5: was a bit of a spear tackle, like I can
Speaker 5: kind of see.
Speaker 3: I didn't really.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought appy Appys was probably a simbitnting, just
Speaker 5: like from what we've seen consistent consistency. But then yeah,
Speaker 5: the adam do we want to he gets hit by
Speaker 5: his own player and just swung around. He doesn't actually
Speaker 5: drop on the back of the hip. I just think, yeah,
Speaker 5: I like the hip drop rule, but they've just got
Speaker 5: to be a bit more polish on it because like,
Speaker 5: what what is a hip drop like? Because he's been hit,
Speaker 5: swung around and then like basically he hasn't tried to
Speaker 5: drop back. He's just been swung around the back of
Speaker 5: it and and ended up falling back, which happens in footy.
Speaker 5: Like you know, I think if we're trying to prevent
Speaker 5: all injuries, like you're gonna get a head knock sometimes
Speaker 5: just by having a good tackle and ramming someone into
Speaker 5: the floor. You can't stop every hip drop, you can't
Speaker 5: stop every head knock.
Speaker 3: Like we just needs to be polish on it. At
Speaker 3: what costs though.
Speaker 5: Pam, Like you're telling me if if you know Stefano,
Speaker 5: Stefano is coming up to tackle someone, puts a good
Speaker 5: midshot on him, drives him into the floor, they get
Speaker 5: whiplash and hit their head. Are we going to start
Speaker 5: penalizing him for that? Are we going to start penalizing Uh?
Speaker 5: You know, Dominic Young has great leg drive, and that's
Speaker 5: why people are getting dragged around the back if they're
Speaker 5: not intentionally dropping their hip on someone like he's swung
Speaker 5: around there, not to try and drop him.
Speaker 3: Drop himself down.
Speaker 5: I don't feel I just feel there has to be,
Speaker 5: you know, a bit more polish on it, a bit more,
Speaker 5: a bit more black and white than what they're is.
Speaker 1: See. I have an issue with you. You know you
Speaker 1: said I think you use the word consistency before. You're
Speaker 1: never going to get consistency. I hate that word. It's impossible.
Speaker 1: You've got different people in the box, different people in
Speaker 1: the bunker, different people have different views. I look at that, Adam,
Speaker 1: do you tackle and I go, well, you know, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily have a problem, Like if you.
Speaker 4: Don't think that's that's a hip drop to me because
Speaker 4: his legs are out, because as.
Speaker 3: Well he tried to drop down on the back of
Speaker 3: him though he.
Speaker 2: Dropped himself from falling back either I don't.
Speaker 1: Know whether or not. Then yeah, it's just that's the
Speaker 1: issue for me because I think the issue at the
Speaker 1: moment is the sinbinnings are so like, as I said,
Speaker 1: you're never going to have consistency, but they're so wildly inconsistent.
Speaker 1: Like you can narrow the gap between between you narry
Speaker 1: the level of inconsistency, but I think at the moment
Speaker 1: it's so wildly inconsistent. You know. I see some hip
Speaker 1: drops and I go, well, how's that going? Not in
Speaker 1: the bin? Then you see one potentially like that where
Speaker 1: you go, well, that's a bit linebore he goes to
Speaker 1: the bin. That's the issue for me. I don't I
Speaker 1: hate people talking about consistency drives me nuts because you'll
Speaker 1: never get at me right, and it's just like having
Speaker 1: two different officials in the in the bunk, then they
Speaker 1: never never going to necessarily agree. Some referees on the field,
Speaker 1: they're never going to be on the same page. But
Speaker 1: you need to reduce you need to have it at
Speaker 1: least minimal inconsistency. At the moment, it feels like to me,
Speaker 1: the inconsistency is just huge across games. So that's what
Speaker 1: I think they've got to work out. They've got to
Speaker 1: try and you know, but I mean, obviously it's been
Speaker 1: an issue all weekend, the sin beinnings and the six agains.
Speaker 1: Wayne brought it up last week with Paul Crawley in
Speaker 1: an interview on Fox Fox website on Fox Sports. Sorry,
Speaker 1: Ricky brought it up on Saturday night. Robbo's brought it
Speaker 1: up now, And yeah, I think there's been talking about
Speaker 1: summits and all sorts of stuff, which we tend this
Speaker 1: happens every year, right, see the issue over the six again.
Speaker 1: You're talking about getting rid of the six again, right,
Speaker 1: So six agains are given when a team infringes, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe infringes in the field of place, generally when line
Speaker 1: or you're coming off your line. It's in place for
Speaker 1: penalty and we're just going to see penalty.
Speaker 2: Blower, I know who wants to see that, not me.
Speaker 2: We had that and it was boring exactly, it's so bad.
Speaker 4: And this if we're getting more six agains, that just
Speaker 4: means we would get the same amount of penalties.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I watched the start of Origin. I'm a Queenslander, right,
Speaker 1: and people were bluing about the six agains at the
Speaker 1: start of Origin. I watched them back. They were if
Speaker 1: they weren't six agains, they were dead, said penalty, So
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have penalties given for them. So I don't
Speaker 1: know you.
Speaker 3: I like the six again.
Speaker 5: I think the game's gone better since and we were
Speaker 5: the game was yeah, like and I think that this
Speaker 5: starts to prove it the viewerships up. Look at the
Speaker 5: success the games had. Melbourne had ninety thousand, Las Vegas
Speaker 5: was packed. You know that that comes off the back
Speaker 5: of the new rules that have been brought into speed
Speaker 5: up the game. You talk to someone who hasn't watched
Speaker 5: the game of rugby league before and you show them.
Speaker 3: They're liking how fast it is.
Speaker 5: How how lack of stops there are, you know, things
Speaker 5: like that, and we're going to start to get to
Speaker 5: a point like rugby union where it is slow stop start,
Speaker 5: you know, stop starts off starting.
Speaker 1: Will you play the game, you play it on the
Speaker 1: six again? Do you when you're playing? Do you when
Speaker 1: six games are given?
Speaker 3: I hated if I'm on defense.
Speaker 1: Do you have any idea what they're for that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, like, yeah, look, and I aproably wouldn't
Speaker 5: say this whatever. I'm a serial pest around the ruck.
Speaker 5: I like laying on the ruck.
Speaker 3: Oh look, I tried to get out. I do talk
Speaker 3: to the referees. Yeah, so my good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, like they're they're helpful, you know, and
Speaker 5: they're better if you're getting penalties every three sets there.
Speaker 5: First of all, teams are going to be better at
Speaker 5: stopping because there's more breaks and more time to kind
Speaker 5: of recover, Like you see some of the scorelines we're
Speaker 5: having and things like that. It's good for the game,
Speaker 5: it's good for the quality of the Game's good for
Speaker 5: the insane. It's more fun to play. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 5: want to if a team's on a roll. A six
Speaker 5: again is a lot better than getting a penalty, kicking downfield,
Speaker 5: letting someone reset their whole defensive line and go again.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, enough of that, Enough of that, because we all
Speaker 1: agree we'll end up talking about consistency and it drives
Speaker 1: me insane. Let's get some love the Queensland because the
Speaker 1: Cowboys I've forgotten this. I think they lost five and
Speaker 1: the r at one point they won five with their
Speaker 1: last six past six and I mean I know Pend
Speaker 1: had a lot outside of the Cowboys. That was a
Speaker 1: big win win on Sunday. I mean they've they have
Speaker 1: turned the corner.
Speaker 2: Do anyone get this tip right?
Speaker 4: I think if you look at the Ladd think it's
Speaker 4: pretty safe to say though, if you tip Penrith at
Speaker 4: home right, because that's a pretty safe tip.
Speaker 3: I read.
Speaker 1: Look at the ladder. Now the Cowboys are done. They're
Speaker 1: in the eight because they've won. There's all those teams
Speaker 1: that one eight, seven, eight games. I think they've won nine.
Speaker 1: Because they've only had one ye from member, I think
Speaker 1: you can lock them away. They were top eight team
Speaker 1: now the Cowboys. So they really turned turned it around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just at the start of the year. They're too excited.
Speaker 1: What true with the Cowboys?
Speaker 3: I was just asking me in a week's time like that,
Speaker 3: we've seen it. The last couple of they've been good.
Speaker 1: The last as I said, the last six, five of
Speaker 1: the last six.
Speaker 3: I think were good. The last two weeks we said,
Speaker 3: we said.
Speaker 4: Wonders about consistency, Like yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Just yeah, they're good at times other times that they're not.
Speaker 5: I really like Todd Payden as a coach, and like,
Speaker 5: I think there's definitely that potential to be, like you said,
Speaker 5: that lock for the top eight, but it's so heavily
Speaker 5: contested at the moment you've got mainly on the fringe.
Speaker 3: There, you know.
Speaker 5: I just think you've got to wait a couple of
Speaker 5: weeks see it out. Because five wins is great. We've
Speaker 5: seen teams go from five wins this year to go
Speaker 5: to four losses in a row like it does happen.
Speaker 5: So I'm not not too excited just yet.
Speaker 4: We've got Manly this week in Townsville.
Speaker 1: That's a big game because there are two teams locked
Speaker 1: in that race.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I buy.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because Penrith I think it lost three. I
Speaker 1: think I heard this morning I lost three that passed
Speaker 1: five potentially Penrith, which is very unpendithed. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: mean again, they've got Cleary to come back and assorted others.
Speaker 1: There's no real concern there is there, I don't think.
Speaker 3: So they're too far up the Ladder as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm not thinking for them of the Ape,
Speaker 1: but is there a concern that maybe maybe they're finally
Speaker 1: hitting a wall.
Speaker 5: I don't think they win the camp this year, but yeah,
Speaker 5: I'd probably be more inclined to back the Rooss to
Speaker 5: win the compover the Panthers.
Speaker 4: Interesting a different team than I think Cleary back.
Speaker 2: I don't think that they're done anywhere near it yet.
Speaker 1: He's loving his life at the moment we go on Instagram,
Speaker 1: his places even marry.
Speaker 2: Up on the so sweet dream in the Blue Mountains.
Speaker 1: It may never come back. A couple yea Dragons Dolphins.
Speaker 1: I was at this game yesterday. This was a good
Speaker 1: win for the Dragons because they actually had the breeze
Speaker 1: behind them. It was a reasonable breeze won in the
Speaker 1: first half and they did nothing with it. And the
Speaker 1: second half they were into the breeze and they just
Speaker 1: were all over the Dolphins. And you know, again there
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are there in a bit of a war.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeh, Dragons have been breezingly well. They're in the
Speaker 1: mix right for the Top Bay, which would be an
Speaker 1: amazing toe. He's done a great job shamp flanning him
Speaker 1: with this team and Jade and Sewey yesterday backing up
Speaker 1: from Origin, he was so good, ended up at the
Speaker 1: centers when they lost finger fee guy at some point
Speaker 1: in the game that to reshuffle. He was unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Jaden saw he needed that performances.
Speaker 1: We did because I actually thought he was I thought
Speaker 1: he might give way for Dave Feeder. I heard, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take Yeah, but you know it's hard to He's
Speaker 1: got to be in there somewhere after the way played yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4: It's amazing the difference in the Dragons, Isn't it just
Speaker 4: how they're just playing tough again. They're just a little
Speaker 4: bit more exciting. They just seem to be getting it
Speaker 4: just a little bit better, a little bit better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just week.
Speaker 1: On Weekmax said yesterday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about the dol What about the Dolphins? What
Speaker 4: do we think about them? Do we think there was
Speaker 4: a lot of talk that they had a pretty soft
Speaker 4: draw to start there, to start the year. Do we
Speaker 4: think that we've seen the best of them now?
Speaker 1: Well? I think it's the issue they've got, is right.
Speaker 1: No Fleggler, No, Tommy, Gilbert Fleggler probably won't play this year.
Speaker 1: Gilbert won't play this year. I think that it strips
Speaker 1: your depth, right, And I reckon the other issue that
Speaker 1: the Dolphins have gone a little bit and I think
Speaker 1: people started to work well. I think they've known all year,
Speaker 1: but they're getting exposed a bit. I love katoa right,
Speaker 1: great player. It's going to be a superstar. Cody Nick
Speaker 1: Rivers had a great year, but you look at their
Speaker 1: misstackle count on a weekly basis, said to Hals, they
Speaker 1: miss a lot of tackles, and you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know where else I go because I think
Speaker 1: you can't. Those two guys have been great for them,
Speaker 1: but they missed so many tackles and they're just going
Speaker 1: to get targeted all year and from now on and
Speaker 1: they're going to get caught out at times. I reckon
Speaker 1: so but Wayne's done a good job with them. But
Speaker 1: and now to put me, they're actually in dangerous slipping
Speaker 1: out of the eight, which is we're all wrapping them
Speaker 1: in the top four.
Speaker 2: I don't think they.
Speaker 4: Had to send a predicted team, predicted top eight and
Speaker 4: did you have them in the ape?
Speaker 1: Did actually before the seasons started.
Speaker 2: Recently, we had to do it.
Speaker 6: I hadn't no idea I had four teams, four teams
Speaker 6: of equal points from seventh to ninth or tenth, and
Speaker 6: they were one of the four teams and they missed
Speaker 6: out and pour and against.
Speaker 1: It was a thriller, it was.
Speaker 4: Around.
Speaker 5: I think, look, I don't think that you can draw
Speaker 5: a line through them just yet. What I'd really be
Speaker 5: interested to see is, even though if the responsibility should
Speaker 5: be on Katola and nikkorihema to be making those tackles,
Speaker 5: I'd love to see their second roles really step off
Speaker 5: and help them out.
Speaker 3: That's what the roosters have done really well.
Speaker 5: Like I said, Victor Bradley going onto that edge has
Speaker 5: almost been a master stroke because he's protecting that defensive
Speaker 5: edge and although he's great in in the in the middle,
Speaker 5: the edge is the hardest spot to defend. So I
Speaker 5: feel for these halves, especially a young half like younger
Speaker 5: than me, pretty young, so you know, camera but yeah,
Speaker 5: I think you know, if you have Kfusi out there,
Speaker 5: if you can move Kfusi back to that edge, and
Speaker 5: you can really get their second role to aim up,
Speaker 5: that'll lock them down defensively.
Speaker 3: They'll have to make less tackles and then obviously less
Speaker 3: tackles missed.
Speaker 1: I like that cool. A couple of the games for
Speaker 1: the word and couple of the results the Broncos that
Speaker 1: may have lost. There's a three in a row they've
Speaker 1: lost there in a hole of broncos. Yeah, the massive hole.
Speaker 2: Let me just have.
Speaker 1: Kevy rested obviously rested these origin bugs in the weekend.
Speaker 1: But now tenth, the tenth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're out of the eight.
Speaker 4: Out of the eight, the tenth. Yeah, it doesn't look good.
Speaker 4: Let me just look up their draw for the next
Speaker 4: couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: I think as long as they make the eight and
Speaker 1: they have everyone fit, because Reynolds will be back at
Speaker 1: some point later in the year, I think they can
Speaker 1: win the comp from out of the eight, from sorry,
Speaker 1: out of the top four. I think the issue for
Speaker 1: them is at the eight. The issue at the moment
Speaker 1: is there are a chance of missing the eight.
Speaker 3: Mm.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think if if all pans out, well, Kevy
Speaker 5: looks like a genius. And I saw some people say
Speaker 5: that in the long run, what Kevy is doing now
Speaker 5: is going to work.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you have to win games.
Speaker 4: They've got a pretty decent draw to finish, so let
Speaker 4: me so they've got.
Speaker 2: Penrith next week.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's tough.
Speaker 2: It's a tough. Then they've got the Dragons the Knights.
Speaker 1: Is that origin dragons?
Speaker 4: So that is yeah, that's dragons origin in Origin, and
Speaker 4: then they've got the Knights the week after and then.
Speaker 1: Bord Pong back by then. I'd imagine that's around twenty. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think he's background twenty meant to.
Speaker 4: Be Titans, Cowboys in Townsville by Para Dolphins and then
Speaker 4: Storm to finish.
Speaker 1: There was a good draw. Well, Melbourne may rest everyone
Speaker 1: last round, so you're a chance here.
Speaker 3: They need to be.
Speaker 5: They need to be in the eight though before the
Speaker 5: last round. They can't depend on it the last round.
Speaker 1: I don't mind that draw. I think that's a there's no.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they should win most of those games if they're
Speaker 4: going to.
Speaker 2: Make the eight.
Speaker 3: They need to.
Speaker 1: They just they just need to get everyone back and
Speaker 1: playing because at the moment they just look like a
Speaker 1: team that's just out of sorts. Colbo is pretty good
Speaker 1: in this game, do we does he come straight back
Speaker 1: in for Cobba straight in for your coach is obviously out,
Speaker 1: so maybe they shuffle valve of the wing and stick
Speaker 1: Cobbo on big latrell or well, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Depends what depends what Billy wants to do. Do we think,
Speaker 4: what do we think about you know where Queensland is?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got was the other option you can bring in,
Speaker 1: but he.
Speaker 4: Was he had a bit of a rough yeah on
Speaker 4: the weekend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think Cobb has got to come in.
Speaker 1: He's a big, powerful human.
Speaker 3: It just depends on the dynamic that Billy wants.
Speaker 5: I guess if he wants that, If he wants that
Speaker 5: back on the bench, like I said to you when
Speaker 5: he got announced first time, it needs to be Cobbo.
Speaker 5: There's you're not going to carry another back on the bench,
Speaker 5: I don't think. But again, if you're looking at bringing
Speaker 5: a similar game that you brought into game two, you
Speaker 5: just move the ideal think would be just of Cobo
Speaker 5: into that starting team and they're keeping a similar bench.
Speaker 4: It seems like a pretty straightforward swap, right, I mean
Speaker 4: the wing is a good winger vowel.
Speaker 1: Formerly the best winger in the world, I would think
Speaker 1: back in the day. But you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: you lose too much there. If you're well, I think
Speaker 1: you know, someone's a handful in your position. I'd like
Speaker 1: to see him back in the team, but obviously depends
Speaker 1: on how he's feeling and how his injury was. Because
Speaker 1: Billy said he was taking some painkillers and stuff and
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons he was out of the team.
Speaker 1: Obviously his coat got injured in that Melbourne win on
Speaker 1: Saturday night over camera. I think the Storm of four
Speaker 1: points clear now, yeah, but you know what, I watched them.
Speaker 2: I'm impressive, but.
Speaker 1: They just went close games. They've never really I've never
Speaker 1: really sat back and looked at them and thought, man,
Speaker 1: they've been so good tonight. But they're doing it that.
Speaker 1: There's no peraps, no Monster again at the weekend. And
Speaker 1: as I said that the minor Premiership, is it over?
Speaker 1: Do we think it's over the morning?
Speaker 3: Not after this? When this Saturday rolls around, they've got
Speaker 3: the Tigers are.
Speaker 1: Like like it's a dangerous game for the Storm. Apparently
Speaker 1: the Tigers are a twenty point better team than.
Speaker 3: Like the Tigers. Well, like, he's scared if I'm Melbourne
Speaker 3: coming there.
Speaker 1: Let's suspect Melbourne's a different story to who have you
Speaker 1: played there? Titans?
Speaker 5: The Titans shots the top of the ladder. We've beat
Speaker 5: them there in around two right, You're so right.
Speaker 4: No, I think, yeah, geez, they're incredible. We talk about
Speaker 4: it every year though, don't we. I honestly thought with camera,
Speaker 4: but you know, you think it every year With Cameron
Speaker 4: Munster out though, I thought, you know, they might struggle,
Speaker 4: it might be you know, and by struggle I mean
Speaker 4: sixth yeah, which is probably about as bad as a.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like are capable of. But yeah, I love they
Speaker 2: can find it, find a talent.
Speaker 1: So he've been playing great at six Yeah.
Speaker 5: Just I had a conversation a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 5: our Ourgin camp about who the genuine fourteens are in
Speaker 5: the competition, and yeah, I said it's him and Connor Watson.
Speaker 5: I'm probably down to genuine fourteen. So I'd be happy
Speaker 5: to put anywhere on the field and have him do
Speaker 5: a job. Even when he played on the wing earlier
Speaker 5: this year. Just so realized he's like he's a Melbourne
Speaker 5: Storm player. Exactly what a Melbourne Storm player is.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about the the Sharks on on what they
Speaker 1: on Friday? Was it Friday or Sideline? I shouldna Yeah
Speaker 1: against the dogs, the Dogs, how good are they going
Speaker 1: I think I think locked them into the top eight.
Speaker 1: Now the Dogs, well we say.
Speaker 2: It every week, we do. Yeah, we declared that, we
Speaker 2: declared it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we just it's more and more like affirmations
Speaker 4: that we're that we're right.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The way that this team has turned around is just incredible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're tough, kick and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love to love to see.
Speaker 1: It so strong defensively.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and just to be able to to ice that win.
Speaker 4: This was just another big statement game, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: But the what do you think about the Sharks?
Speaker 1: I felt for I really felt for Nico Hines, I know,
Speaker 1: so tough for him. Had the chance to win that
Speaker 1: game and it wasn't It wasn't a hard field goal
Speaker 1: two weeks Yeah, he should have ice that.
Speaker 4: I think even I think he would know that too.
Speaker 1: That's what killed him this game. There was the starter
Speaker 1: was twelve years down after no time at all. And
Speaker 1: there's been an issue for them for weeks now. Their
Speaker 1: starts have been horrible and Fitz He's obviously prides himself
Speaker 1: on that on defense. The defense earlier in games has
Speaker 1: just been his. Nico's field goal at ten, I.
Speaker 3: Mean you should you know it wasn't a lot of
Speaker 3: pressure either.
Speaker 1: No, it's one he should have got. And you could
Speaker 1: see him after the game. He just sunk to the turf.
Speaker 1: He was pretty deflated. Nick, Do you think he's a
Speaker 1: bit what about Matt Burton's boot?
Speaker 2: It's been a tough year.
Speaker 3: It's a bit rattled.
Speaker 1: How can you not be he just got draw from Origin.
Speaker 1: You've had two weeks and we've had a chance to
Speaker 1: one send the game to Golden Point and the second
Speaker 1: week to win it and you're fluffed them both. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he's.
Speaker 5: Rattled, but you can't you can't put all the onus
Speaker 5: on Nico, Like, no, he's not the only player on that.
Speaker 1: But you know, the great players always take it on themselves,
Speaker 1: right do you think the great players always go as
Speaker 1: much as much as other players say you mate, it's
Speaker 1: not your fault, or you know we you know we
Speaker 1: needed to help you. You always go, you know, the
Speaker 1: the great players always go, well I should have won
Speaker 1: that for Yes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he'll he'll definitely be thinking that. Yeah, I've
Speaker 5: got no doubt he will be thinking that. But I
Speaker 5: think there's there's a couple of other players on that
Speaker 5: team at the moment that they have to so kind
Speaker 5: of own up to how poorly the.
Speaker 1: What about him? He had a chakra on Friday night
Speaker 1: a couple honestly, some of some of the players he
Speaker 1: came up with diabolical. But yeah, it's just really tough
Speaker 1: time for Nick Owen. He'll come out of the other side.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's really good footballer, but he just.
Speaker 3: Block out the noise. I heard the Bulldogs fan.
Speaker 5: We're giving it to a two point where Stephen Crydon
Speaker 5: have to chase after him up the tunnel to kind
Speaker 5: of just to have his head up. Like yeah, that
Speaker 5: I think, Like, like I said before, I'm all for
Speaker 5: heckling our games. You know, it's all a bit of fun,
Speaker 5: but don't don't make it personal, you know, like, enjoy
Speaker 5: the win, be be graceful in victory. Because when he
Speaker 5: puts on a Blues jersey, every wrong, all those same
Speaker 5: supporters that give it to him will be cheering for him.
Speaker 4: So like if they run into him in this photo,
Speaker 4: they'd be like, heines and you don't want.
Speaker 5: To see you don't want to see another player get
Speaker 5: I guess, you know, piled on just for game because
Speaker 5: when he said his best he is a Dally Medal winner.
Speaker 5: He is up the top of the players in the
Speaker 5: n RL. Like, let him, let him do that. You enjoy,
Speaker 5: enjoy your win at the game. Don't go heckling someone
Speaker 5: running up the tunnel after he's just missed the field goal.
Speaker 5: I think that's just poor tastes. And I love the
Speaker 5: Doggies fans the most, one of the most passionate in
Speaker 5: the the NRL.
Speaker 3: But I don't like seeing that.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the Blues jersey. What about the women's origin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is the result. Revenge, sweet revenge goodness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was.
Speaker 4: It was quite tough to watch as a Blues fan.
Speaker 4: But just an aside from that, I mean the so
Speaker 4: News had such a good win in Game one and
Speaker 4: then these real next comprehensive thought, very very comprehensive the Blues.
Speaker 4: You know, it was wet weather footy once again and
Speaker 4: they just didn't play to their conditions. It was terribly
Speaker 4: frustrating to watch, just considering yeah, well I'm talking, you
Speaker 4: can have yourself.
Speaker 1: We have video listeners from across the globe.
Speaker 4: We do, we do, but the yeah, they just didn't
Speaker 4: play to their conditions and it Yeah, Queensland just absolutely
Speaker 4: killed it. This is what happens when Queensland's backs against
Speaker 4: the wall, isn't it.
Speaker 1: You've got to be ready for warning.
Speaker 4: But the issue is, I think is yeah, there was
Speaker 4: just so many errors, so many just things like this
Speaker 4: that were just didn't really make much sense. I feel
Speaker 4: for Rage Pierson. She's a she's such a great chick.
Speaker 4: She just she really had a tough night. Amat had
Speaker 4: a really tough night in She had made some real
Speaker 4: bad mistakes there too, and it was just compounded. But yeah,
Speaker 4: so now I think there's going to be it's just
Speaker 4: kind of called the coaching into question as well. So
Speaker 4: now that's three losses in the last four series for
Speaker 4: New South Wales, so well, that's exactly right. So I mean,
Speaker 4: this is the this is the first three game series
Speaker 4: that we've had, so you know, there might be a
Speaker 4: little bit of grace given there to Kylie Hilda just
Speaker 4: based on that alone. But yeah, there's been a lot
Speaker 4: of calls I think for a bit of change.
Speaker 3: You need to you need to complete sets. That's that's
Speaker 3: what it is.
Speaker 5: They completed like one or two sets in the first
Speaker 5: twenty minutes of that game. As a fan, it was
Speaker 5: hard to watch and I thought the first two games
Speaker 5: of Women's Origin we were awesome.
Speaker 3: Look were they were great and like to watch this
Speaker 3: one was almost like, what's what's happened? What was happening
Speaker 3: this Blues team, which they should have.
Speaker 5: Won game too. They won game one comfortably. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: see it in the NRL every week. If you can't
Speaker 5: complete sets, if you're completing under seventy five percent, you're
Speaker 5: not filming football games.
Speaker 4: It was like, I think they completed it was like
Speaker 4: sixty percent or something.
Speaker 2: It was terrible. It was really bad that it is.
Speaker 2: And the.
Speaker 1: She was great Ali Briginshaw in this game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, she's just the old stage for this for
Speaker 4: this team.
Speaker 3: But the.
Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna say the thing is is after game
Speaker 4: two so obviously that was or that was wet weather footy.
Speaker 4: That was the worst conditions you could see. It was
Speaker 4: just absolutely belting down the whole game. But afterwards New
Speaker 4: South Wales kind of said, oh, you know we are
Speaker 4: you know, the wet weather footy doesn't really suit us
Speaker 4: where you know, a fast team, we like to score
Speaker 4: a lot of points.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: This was wet again, and it was always it was
Speaker 4: known for quite a while it was going to be
Speaker 4: wet again, So you've got to adjust to what their
Speaker 4: conditions are if you know that it's going to be
Speaker 4: this kind of Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't like Grez. We're a fast team. We don't
Speaker 5: like playing in the world. Well, it's like, what are
Speaker 5: you going to do? You play a winter sport like
Speaker 5: the majority of the year, Like, look, look at the
Speaker 5: last three weeks we've had in Sydney.
Speaker 3: This week's supposed to be raining all week as well.
Speaker 5: Oh the weeks it's sorry we lose the week's raining
Speaker 5: because when it's honey, we're gonna win score points.
Speaker 1: Silly.
Speaker 4: It's not the best and they needed to be a
Speaker 4: bit of an adjustment there.
Speaker 1: So when does women's comps start? When do we start?
Speaker 4: So July twenty five, Yeah, it's a few weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, about three weeks. Yeah, which is good.
Speaker 1: So who's the hot favorite winner this year?
Speaker 4: So the Knights have won the last two competitions. Have
Speaker 4: had a change of coach this year though, so the
Speaker 4: Knights coach Ron Griffiths, so he's gone to the Warriors
Speaker 4: for next year, which is interesting.
Speaker 2: And then the Knights have Ben.
Speaker 4: Jeffries, who was Cowboys coach last year. I like the Titans.
Speaker 4: The Titans made the Grand Final last year. The coach
Speaker 4: by Karen Murphy absolutely stacked. Actually, in the first in
Speaker 4: the three women's Origin games, it was Titans players who
Speaker 4: really saw Jamie Chapman who had the outstanding game in
Speaker 4: game one. Game two, lo And Brown kicked that field
Speaker 4: goal for Queensland. She's a Titans player. And then Shannonmato
Speaker 4: was player of the match in game three. They all
Speaker 4: play for the Titans. I think it's a pretty big indication.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Sota. Okay, first, turn to what you're
Speaker 1: watching this week? Who wants to go first? Because I
Speaker 1: love your show of Watching.
Speaker 2: The Bear.
Speaker 1: How good is this show The Bear?
Speaker 4: So binged it actually over the weekends.
Speaker 2: Has just started. Yeah, so it's about if you haven't.
Speaker 1: Seen it, time watch at some point.
Speaker 4: Some of the episodes not that long actually this season
Speaker 4: they're about half an hour or so, so it's a
Speaker 4: bit easier to binge. But the yes, it's about a
Speaker 4: chef and he suffers with like PTSD, anxiety, all these things,
Speaker 4: and he comes home to Chicago to take over his
Speaker 4: family's restaurant and then so it's all of the the
Speaker 4: relationship stuff that happens in between, then all the people
Speaker 4: that work at the restaurant, all of the family issues,
Speaker 4: and it's just a wonderful show. The way they do
Speaker 4: it is just incredible. The storytelling is so good. It's
Speaker 4: just little pieces of things kind of put together. It's funny,
Speaker 4: it's be dark.
Speaker 1: Cookie shows such a good show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love.
Speaker 4: Cooking too, so this is just right at Maley.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you got, Tyson? You've got back in time.
Speaker 3: I went back and.
Speaker 5: I started watching small Villain's.
Speaker 2: Like I was watching Smallville in high school.
Speaker 1: But let me just how small.
Speaker 5: I hate I hate saying this, but I was scrolling
Speaker 5: on TikTok my.
Speaker 3: Kids and yeah, like a little edite came off.
Speaker 2: Don't one.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I was in.
Speaker 2: Nine.
Speaker 1: I was still an old man, that's the one.
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, I started watching small Ville because I
Speaker 5: saw an editor on TikTok and I was like, this
Speaker 5: looks like a nice show.
Speaker 1: What do you thought?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's look, I'm not really beyond the superhero stuff,
Speaker 5: like a bit too unreally stick for me. I like
Speaker 5: that exist like that man, that man's kind of like
Speaker 5: he's real.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's good. It's it's different.
Speaker 5: It's probably a bit more slower to my liking because
Speaker 5: it's a very speinning book, speeding.
Speaker 4: Our special effects hold up from what is that twenty
Speaker 4: four years ago?
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I'm a fan of the I'm not going
Speaker 3: to say older stuff because yeah, I like that.
Speaker 5: It's not too I guess I say it's not too
Speaker 5: c G. I basically just see a big C on
Speaker 5: the screen, but it's not too c G. I based,
Speaker 5: And I haven't actually got to the part where he's
Speaker 5: like fully entrenched in being Superman.
Speaker 1: So it still works.
Speaker 3: He's still Discovery early days, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Well, I watched a movie this week and
Speaker 1: it was it's called Trigger Warning. It's got Jessica Elbow
Speaker 1: and jess Graber, who I'm sure you're a big fan of.
Speaker 1: Just the thing about it is she plays like a
Speaker 1: an s a s A former army. You know, she's
Speaker 1: an expert in tactical warfare and martial arts and stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, if you know Jessica Elbow and what she's
Speaker 1: done in the past, I just found it's a little
Speaker 1: difficult to grasp.
Speaker 3: You really, are you a hater? Every time I'm on here.
Speaker 3: You're just you're not.
Speaker 1: I'm not enjoying the I'm not telling people not to watch.
Speaker 1: I'm just just saying, reduce her expectations. Jessica's not going
Speaker 1: to win. She's not going to win an Academy Award
Speaker 1: to this look. I watched the whole movie. It was
Speaker 1: just different. You know, she's looks in the army and
Speaker 1: it's not really her goal. Is it her genre? She
Speaker 1: just tried to try something new. Anyway, it was okay,
Speaker 1: it was possible. She's good and fantastic four she's very
Speaker 1: good and fantastic for very good, What's into the Blue
Speaker 1: A trigger warning, She's not so good. She's okay, not
Speaker 1: so good. On that note, thanks for joining us. Thanks,
Speaker 1: thanks guys, and we'll see you next week.
Speaker 4: M