WEBVTT - The Consistency Debate 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:10.920 How I Welcome to the day Teller Error podcast on 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.320 Brent reed On a bit snippling apologies, joined by Tyson 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.800 Jackson Pam Whaling twice in Jackson, I got the struggle 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:22.320 you out. I'm stuffed up anyway? You been good? Yeah? Good? 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.520 What do you think I know? On Thursday? But it's 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:27.720 near for it really yeah, it's for me. 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.200 I love it, like all little bits and pieces in there. 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:31.600 I like the memorabilia. 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.639 I just realized I'd like to see the Queensland jersey somewhere. 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.520 Please the Queensland half a scarf, Just half a scarf. 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.120 We'll take that up. We don't deserve the jersey or 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.600 scuff after where we played last Wednesday. Anyway, footy on 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:46.680 the weekend we should start. Let's start with the Roosters 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.880 Tigers game. Roosters a game they've been outstanding the past 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.559 month or so. But the big news out of that 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.160 game is probably Jerry Marno a couple of fractured bones 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.800 in his hand need surgery to be out for four 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.080 to five weeks. Huge blow for the for the rust 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:02.240 of Joey, Yeah. 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:03.000 Huge, huge blow. 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:07.680 He's obviously probably their best player, isn't he so they're 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.120 absolutely flying at the moment though, But over the last 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:12.040 couple of years, do you reckon they've had so many 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.920 injuries and then have just been able to cover them. 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.639 They just have had such a bad run. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.479 But yeah, how long is he out for? Four weeks? 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.639 Four to five weeks? Are saying surgery four to five weeks. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:29.360 So it is one area there that they are reasonably well. 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.520 Billy Smiths out as well, I suppose, and Joey Joke's 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:36.280 SU's still got I think a week to go on. Yeah, 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.360 so I was going to say the reason were deep there, 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.560 but they've actually got some injuries. 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.559 Yeahs as well as Yeah he's out too. 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:45.480 And is suspended as well. 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.840 Yes, yep. So concerned for you, Tys or not really? 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.160 I think that the Rusters are saying to click clack. 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.480 I think we've we saw similarly in twenty eighteen, twenty 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.480 nineteen when they won the comps. So yeah, like I'm 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.320 not too concerned because I think around the park they've 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.520 got places to cover. I think if they end up 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:05.200 having to put Michael Jennings in there, they can still 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.400 get the job done or whoever they really call up 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.680 with the Risks. It's almost like that penwith mentality next 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.560 next man in. At the moment they're on so much 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.520 of a high I think will take more than Joe 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:15.560 Manto getting injured to. 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.600 Really be a bad time to make a Penrith reference. 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:19.919 But we'll get to their may. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.400 What's the draw like over the next couple of Yeah, 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:24.480 it was playing. 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:25.600 I don't think it really matters. 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:27.080 Yeah, I don't think so either. 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:30.440 I mean Brandon's Smith's been back last couple of weeks. 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.880 I think he's been standing for the Brandon. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.200 Smith Victor Radley at second row. 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.320 Yeah, which is interesting. I always thought he was really 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.160 good in the thirteen, but he's been greater on the edge, 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:40.520 isn't he. 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.240 I think just Robinson's fighting a way to fit kind 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:46.680 of their best thirteen on the field. And that's I 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.040 think with Connor Watson on there, because Connor has been 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:50.280 playing out of his skin as well. 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:54.799 Yeah, And so they have the Dragons and then a bye, 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:58.680 so that's during Origin and then Melbourne and then Manly. 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:02.440 That's a big game that Melbourne. Yeah, Robbo's record against 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.239 Craig Bellamy is horrific. I think he's lost a heap 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:06.720 in a row. 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.720 So that would be that would be Origin players backing up, 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:11.720 So that's on the Saturday. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:13.760 Yeah, so they might rest a few both both those 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.440 teams in that game. But yeah, the way they play, 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.200 they just spit rampant at times, and you know, they 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.160 they just got so much strike, haven't they, particularly they're 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.400 outside backs. But the other guy, Angus Crichton's been killing it. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.560 He's close to doing a two year deal there. They 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.519 expect that to be done in the next twenty four 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:35.320 to forty eight hours. Obviously that's huge for them, but 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.760 it means probably Satilly pana Leaves he played, he played 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:43.400 sending us. Yeah, yeah, so, I mean, I don't know, 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.400 is there any concerned that that might be a bit 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.760 of a disruption for them? 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.520 Oh, I don't know. Not. I don't think so. 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.640 I mean, you're just like I said before, everyone's just 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.960 striking at the right time. This is this is where 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.000 kind of premierships are won and losses in this middle 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.880 part of the season, especially round Origin. So I can't 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.800 really see any disruption to the Roosters at the moment. 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:07.600 I'm I'm the Tigers of what's memorable, memorized by what 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:08.160 I'll get. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:08.520 To them. 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.240 PTSD. Yeah, I don't think so either. I think yeah, 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.200 I was. I had my doubts about the Rusters at 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.760 the start of this year. I think maybe it was 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:21.400 fair to just considering, you know, last year and they 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.400 still kind of have the same roster. They added in 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:29.000 Dom Young obviously, but wow, they've just really clicked together 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:32.520 this year, even though they've obviously had some they've been 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.120 pretty hit pretty hard with injuries in that back line. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.479 They're the type of team that you just trust to 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:39.120 scrape through. 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.960 It's interest for that back line. Because the world card 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.280 and all this, I suppose is Mark. I've got to 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.600 get his name right. I've financially done here. So let's 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:51.560 look at No. One. Ni Tawasi, the rugby young Wallaby's kid, 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:55.760 is the russ signing for next year. They're trying to 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.280 get he's going to the Olympic Olympics. We believe we're 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.840 going to the Olympics with the seventh team. The rooster 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.599 are trying to get an exemption for him to sign 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:07.240 for them and then after the Olympics are over, come 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.679 back and play for them. Now, normally this wouldn't be allowed, 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.520 right because there's a June thirty cutoff. You've got to 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:16.000 be signed and registered before June thirty. I think that 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.240 obviously today's July won. As I said, they're trying to 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.080 get an exemption for him come back and play. Do 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:22.919 we have an issue with that? Do you have a 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.520 concern that they make an exception for they're automating excepts 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.080 for the russ which Josua Lee to play before he 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.440 was eighteen. Now you've got potentially Mark Norngan. It's no 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.719 longer need to ARSI coming back and helping them in 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.440 the run in the finals. Any concerns, I don't think 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:39.880 it's fair. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:41.239 I think that's a rule for a reason. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.640 Yeah, I agree with that. I don't I don't think. 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.039 I don't think they need him. So what's it's like, 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.200 we're just bringing someone in to say we've got him 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.960 for this year, like and realistically, well, I think. 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.960 The idea is get him in so you can upscale 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.320 him so he's ready next for the start of the 0:05:58.320 --> 0:05:58.640 next year. 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.880 There's no rules you can't start training with them. There's 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.440 no rule against that because clubs bringing people to train. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.760 With them all the time. So people who does Mark take. 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.640 Out of that rooster's side At the moment, I can't 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.880 really see anyone. When Joey comes back, Sowali comes back, 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.600 he'll be in there. When man Who comes back, he'll 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.760 be in there. Tupo and Dom Young aren't going anywhere. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.000 You're not moving him to fullback, So where are you 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:23.839 using him? You're just bringing him in to be an 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.080 extra number. I think for the Rusters there's no point 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:27.760 going through the headache of trying to get him over 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:28.200 as well. 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:29.640 What are your thoughts. 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:35.280 I'm a bit with you. The only issue is if 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.680 they get an injury potentially comes into contention, If you're 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.120 give him the exemption so he's allowed to play potentially, 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.479 then you know, I think it probably creates a little 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:44.680 bit an unfair. 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:45.680 That's what I think. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.120 If he's going to be eligible to play, yeah, then 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.279 I think that that's not really fair. 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.400 If they went on a horrid injury runs, it's a 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.239 different story. Right now, they've lost all their outside backs. 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.200 You can kind of be like, well, maybe they could 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.599 use him, but there's no need for him currently. So 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.480 in three months time, when their team's probably going to 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.640 be more healthy than it is right now, there's gonna 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:09.640 be no need for him then either. 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.440 Yeah, let's talk about your Tigers I've been pretty good 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:14.400 the last few weeks. This was a bit of a 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.800 slap in the face. Were you obviously a couple of 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:18.880 sin binsuring the game? 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:19.920 Yeah? 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.559 Was this this huge step back? Or was this because 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.760 they had the teams they've beat and they hadn't I 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:29.520 think there was the Titans and the Raiders, two teams 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.480 who hadn't exactly been playing well, and then the next 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.480 three weeks they've got tough games in the Melbourne. After this, 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:37.960 I think they were cranella. So this is a real 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.960 test the next three weeks. Was this worse than you'd 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:42.560 hoped to be? 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.080 Or every year that I see that rooster's game get 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.960 brought up, I'm always kind of scared because I don't 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:50.920 know what it is. But no matter how good we're 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.160 doing at a time, how poorly roosters doing vice versa, 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:54.960 they always just managed to put a score on us. 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:57.440 I'm not one to believe in those kind of myths 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.960 or anything, but it just does happen. But look, I 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:05.960 thought after that first half the completions were quite high. 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.600 The Tigers, just like the Risks were just better. I 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.600 think there were. Then the second half comes along and 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:12.400 you bring. 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.480 In there at one point there's eleven on the field 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:18.400 and silly penalties. I think they've got eleven twelve simbinnings 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.960 now for the year. Like it just adds up and 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:21.640 it compiles. 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.680 It's frustrated, frustrating. 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:32.280 I think yesterday, yesterday, yesterday's ones were I mean, Appys 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.200 was a bit of a spear tackle, like I can 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:34.720 kind of see. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:35.520 I didn't really. 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.160 Yeah, I thought appy Appys was probably a simbitnting, just 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:45.160 like from what we've seen consistent consistency. But then yeah, 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.360 the adam do we want to he gets hit by 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.240 his own player and just swung around. He doesn't actually 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.440 drop on the back of the hip. I just think, yeah, 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.120 I like the hip drop rule, but they've just got 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.800 to be a bit more polish on it because like, 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.360 what what is a hip drop like? Because he's been hit, 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:04.040 swung around and then like basically he hasn't tried to 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.040 drop back. He's just been swung around the back of 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.640 it and and ended up falling back, which happens in footy. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.520 Like you know, I think if we're trying to prevent 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.240 all injuries, like you're gonna get a head knock sometimes 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.320 just by having a good tackle and ramming someone into 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.360 the floor. You can't stop every hip drop, you can't 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:21.360 stop every head knock. 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:25.199 Like we just needs to be polish on it. At 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:26.080 what costs though. 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.280 Pam, Like you're telling me if if you know Stefano, 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.559 Stefano is coming up to tackle someone, puts a good 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:35.320 midshot on him, drives him into the floor, they get 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:37.360 whiplash and hit their head. Are we going to start 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.520 penalizing him for that? Are we going to start penalizing Uh? 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.360 You know, Dominic Young has great leg drive, and that's 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.679 why people are getting dragged around the back if they're 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:50.280 not intentionally dropping their hip on someone like he's swung 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.600 around there, not to try and drop him. 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:53.560 Drop himself down. 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:55.480 I don't feel I just feel there has to be, 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:57.880 you know, a bit more polish on it, a bit more, 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.360 a bit more black and white than what they're is. 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:02.840 See. I have an issue with you. You know you 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.200 said I think you use the word consistency before. You're 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.760 never going to get consistency. I hate that word. It's impossible. 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.520 You've got different people in the box, different people in 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:16.720 the bunker, different people have different views. I look at that, Adam, 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.120 do you tackle and I go, well, you know, I don't, 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:22.480 I don't necessarily have a problem, Like if you. 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.760 Don't think that's that's a hip drop to me because 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.880 his legs are out, because as. 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.040 Well he tried to drop down on the back of 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:31.679 him though he. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.440 Dropped himself from falling back either I don't. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:40.520 Know whether or not. Then yeah, it's just that's the 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:42.439 issue for me because I think the issue at the 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:46.480 moment is the sinbinnings are so like, as I said, 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.880 you're never going to have consistency, but they're so wildly inconsistent. 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:53.640 Like you can narrow the gap between between you narry 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.280 the level of inconsistency, but I think at the moment 0:10:56.559 --> 0:11:00.400 it's so wildly inconsistent. You know. I see some hip 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.600 drops and I go, well, how's that going? Not in 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.880 the bin? Then you see one potentially like that where 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.040 you go, well, that's a bit linebore he goes to 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.400 the bin. That's the issue for me. I don't I 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.559 hate people talking about consistency drives me nuts because you'll 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:17.679 never get at me right, and it's just like having 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.960 two different officials in the in the bunk, then they 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.120 never never going to necessarily agree. Some referees on the field, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.000 they're never going to be on the same page. But 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.760 you need to reduce you need to have it at 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:33.080 least minimal inconsistency. At the moment, it feels like to me, 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:37.079 the inconsistency is just huge across games. So that's what 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:38.840 I think they've got to work out. They've got to 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.720 try and you know, but I mean, obviously it's been 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.480 an issue all weekend, the sin beinnings and the six agains. 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.199 Wayne brought it up last week with Paul Crawley in 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:51.400 an interview on Fox Fox website on Fox Sports. Sorry, 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.440 Ricky brought it up on Saturday night. Robbo's brought it 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.959 up now, And yeah, I think there's been talking about 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.679 summits and all sorts of stuff, which we tend this 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.800 happens every year, right, see the issue over the six again. 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.120 You're talking about getting rid of the six again, right, 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:12.880 So six agains are given when a team infringes, you know, 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:17.560 maybe infringes in the field of place, generally when line 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.160 or you're coming off your line. It's in place for 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.080 penalty and we're just going to see penalty. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:23.960 Blower, I know who wants to see that, not me. 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:30.120 We had that and it was boring exactly, it's so bad. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.560 And this if we're getting more six agains, that just 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.400 means we would get the same amount of penalties. 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:34.720 Yeah. 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.560 I watched the start of Origin. I'm a Queenslander, right, 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.319 and people were bluing about the six agains at the 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.200 start of Origin. I watched them back. They were if 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.480 they weren't six agains, they were dead, said penalty, So 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.120 you wouldn't have penalties given for them. So I don't 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:48.520 know you. 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:50.120 I like the six again. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.440 I think the game's gone better since and we were 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.559 the game was yeah, like and I think that this 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.640 starts to prove it the viewerships up. Look at the 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:02.480 success the games had. Melbourne had ninety thousand, Las Vegas 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.920 was packed. You know that that comes off the back 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.120 of the new rules that have been brought into speed 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.080 up the game. You talk to someone who hasn't watched 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:11.640 the game of rugby league before and you show them. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:13.160 They're liking how fast it is. 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.520 How how lack of stops there are, you know, things 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.400 like that, and we're going to start to get to 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.320 a point like rugby union where it is slow stop start, 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:22.760 you know, stop starts off starting. 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:24.840 Will you play the game, you play it on the 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:29.320 six again? Do you when you're playing? Do you when 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:30.400 six games are given? 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:31.920 I hated if I'm on defense. 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:33.200 Do you have any idea what they're for that? 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:33.680 Yeah? 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:37.240 Yeah, you know, like, yeah, look, and I aproably wouldn't 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:39.079 say this whatever. I'm a serial pest around the ruck. 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:40.040 I like laying on the ruck. 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.319 Oh look, I tried to get out. I do talk 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.640 to the referees. Yeah, so my good. 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:53.000 Yeah, but yeah, like they're they're helpful, you know, and 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:56.360 they're better if you're getting penalties every three sets there. 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.520 First of all, teams are going to be better at 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.319 stopping because there's more breaks and more time to kind 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.679 of recover, Like you see some of the scorelines we're 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.640 having and things like that. It's good for the game, 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.240 it's good for the quality of the Game's good for 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.560 the insane. It's more fun to play. Yeah, I don't 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:14.600 want to if a team's on a roll. A six 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.840 again is a lot better than getting a penalty, kicking downfield, 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:20.080 letting someone reset their whole defensive line and go again. 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:21.200 Yeah. 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:25.000 Okay, enough of that, Enough of that, because we all 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.560 agree we'll end up talking about consistency and it drives 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.000 me insane. Let's get some love the Queensland because the 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:34.200 Cowboys I've forgotten this. I think they lost five and 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:35.680 the r at one point they won five with their 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.680 last six past six and I mean I know Pend 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:40.800 had a lot outside of the Cowboys. That was a 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.400 big win win on Sunday. I mean they've they have 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:44.240 turned the corner. 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:45.600 Do anyone get this tip right? 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:49.440 I think if you look at the Ladd think it's 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.840 pretty safe to say though, if you tip Penrith at 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.440 home right, because that's a pretty safe tip. 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:56.080 I read. 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.200 Look at the ladder. Now the Cowboys are done. They're 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.480 in the eight because they've won. There's all those teams 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.080 that one eight, seven, eight games. I think they've won nine. 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.800 Because they've only had one ye from member, I think 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:09.680 you can lock them away. They were top eight team 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:13.360 now the Cowboys. So they really turned turned it around. Yeah, 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.800 just at the start of the year. They're too excited. 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:17.840 What true with the Cowboys? 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:19.840 I was just asking me in a week's time like that, 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.040 we've seen it. The last couple of they've been good. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.080 The last as I said, the last six, five of 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:24.720 the last six. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.800 I think were good. The last two weeks we said, 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:28.360 we said. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:33.400 Wonders about consistency, Like yeah, I. 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:37.680 Just yeah, they're good at times other times that they're not. 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:39.680 I really like Todd Payden as a coach, and like, 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.560 I think there's definitely that potential to be, like you said, 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.040 that lock for the top eight, but it's so heavily 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.480 contested at the moment you've got mainly on the fringe. 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.120 There, you know. 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:51.360 I just think you've got to wait a couple of 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.440 weeks see it out. Because five wins is great. We've 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.080 seen teams go from five wins this year to go 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.760 to four losses in a row like it does happen. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.560 So I'm not not too excited just yet. 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.359 We've got Manly this week in Townsville. 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.280 That's a big game because there are two teams locked 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:06.880 in that race. 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:08.080 Yeah, And then I buy. 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.520 It's interesting because Penrith I think it lost three. I 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.080 think I heard this morning I lost three that passed 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:17.600 five potentially Penrith, which is very unpendithed. Yeah, but I 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.320 mean again, they've got Cleary to come back and assorted others. 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:22.800 There's no real concern there is there, I don't think. 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:26.520 So they're too far up the Ladder as well. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.720 Yeah, no, I'm not thinking for them of the Ape, 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.440 but is there a concern that maybe maybe they're finally 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:33.160 hitting a wall. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.880 I don't think they win the camp this year, but yeah, 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.400 I'd probably be more inclined to back the Rooss to 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.000 win the compover the Panthers. 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:45.840 Interesting a different team than I think Cleary back. 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.240 I don't think that they're done anywhere near it yet. 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.400 He's loving his life at the moment we go on Instagram, 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.320 his places even marry. 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:57.640 Up on the so sweet dream in the Blue Mountains. 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:04.320 It may never come back. A couple yea Dragons Dolphins. 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.520 I was at this game yesterday. This was a good 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:10.200 win for the Dragons because they actually had the breeze 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.600 behind them. It was a reasonable breeze won in the 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.320 first half and they did nothing with it. And the 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.480 second half they were into the breeze and they just 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.760 were all over the Dolphins. And you know, again there 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.080 the Dolphins are there in a bit of a war. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:27.359 Maybe yeh, Dragons have been breezingly well. They're in the 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.760 mix right for the Top Bay, which would be an 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:31.800 amazing toe. He's done a great job shamp flanning him 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.439 with this team and Jade and Sewey yesterday backing up 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.879 from Origin, he was so good, ended up at the 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:41.640 centers when they lost finger fee guy at some point 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.440 in the game that to reshuffle. He was unbelievable. 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:46.359 Jaden saw he needed that performances. 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.680 We did because I actually thought he was I thought 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:52.960 he might give way for Dave Feeder. I heard, yeah, 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.320 I'll take Yeah, but you know it's hard to He's 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.400 got to be in there somewhere after the way played yesterday. 0:17:59.080 --> 0:17:59.800 Yeah, I agree. 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:03.439 It's amazing the difference in the Dragons, Isn't it just 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.760 how they're just playing tough again. They're just a little 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.879 bit more exciting. They just seem to be getting it 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.639 just a little bit better, a little bit better. 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:11.520