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Speaker 1: Apoche production.

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Speaker 2: There was this guy from South Australia that I did

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Speaker 2: time with in Pebridge and we got to know each other.

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Speaker 1: What a crazy story.

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Speaker 2: This guy met a childhood friend that I went to

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Speaker 2: school with and they got married and she was from

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Speaker 2: Muwey and Victoria, where I come from. Oh wow, he

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Speaker 2: got out of jail. I got out of jail. I'm

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Speaker 2: in this little country town called Erica. I'm shooting up,

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Speaker 2: I'm drinking, I'm smoking. I'm not in a good place, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm not in a good blak. And this car falls

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Speaker 2: up and it was a Statesman with South Australian red

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Speaker 2: Jack Bates on it and he gets out and I

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Speaker 2: don't know this dude, so I walk out with a

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Speaker 2: baseball bat. Dawn gets out of the car and I

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Speaker 2: recognized her. Then it all clicked who this dude was.

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Speaker 2: And he looked at me and said, no, I'm not leaving.

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Speaker 2: He bro, I'm not leaving here.

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Speaker 1: Man. You've got two choices.

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Speaker 3: Cannie.

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Speaker 1: You can get in the backseat of the car. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to knock you the fuck out and I'll put

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Speaker 1: you in a book, and you're coming back with me.

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Speaker 2: Wow, And he said, and he walked across and he

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Speaker 2: told the person at the caravan part, you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: your airback. And he brought me back to Adelaide. He

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Speaker 2: brought me to Adelaide and for the first time, he

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Speaker 2: put me up. They put me up, they supported me.

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Speaker 2: I've got a job. I got off the gear. I

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Speaker 2: got clean. That was hard worked because I did a

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Speaker 2: cold turkey. I didn't do any medication enough and I

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Speaker 2: just I'd had enough. I knew when I came here

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Speaker 2: that something better was going to happen in my life.

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Speaker 1: Mane.

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Speaker 2: I came here with a passion. And I say this

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Speaker 2: to Tracy and I were only talking about it last night.

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Speaker 2: So when I came here thirty years ago to South Australia,

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Speaker 2: I'm coming down off the gear.

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Speaker 1: I'm hanging out.

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Speaker 2: I have anxiety, depression, post traumatic stress. I'm scared. I

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Speaker 2: don't know anybody except two people. And I said, just

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Speaker 2: this bloke that Sparah, I said, Brus and I'm sitting

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Speaker 2: at his kitchen table here in Adelaide. I said, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to change my life. I'm going to make a difference.

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Speaker 2: He looked at me and he said, yeah right.

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Speaker 1: Bro had another.

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Speaker 3: Bomb broken and you just stayed, just just dribblings.

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Speaker 1: One of the funny things.

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Speaker 2: One of the funny things about it, But I actually

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Speaker 2: caught up with the same person I haven't seen now

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Speaker 2: for probably fifteen years, and I actually caught up to

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Speaker 2: him and he said to me, you did it, didn't you?

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Speaker 1: Bro?

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Speaker 2: He chose chat same blow, He said, you did it, bro,

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Speaker 2: didn't you?

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Speaker 1: It changed your life of where you are now? I said, yeah, man, I.

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Speaker 4: Said, where where's he? If you don't mind asking? Is

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Speaker 4: he in a good spot in life? Is is he

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Speaker 4: somebody that or is he can.

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Speaker 1: Do where he was?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Where you know? And how do you feel about that?

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Speaker 4: Like knowing that they sort of rescued you from a

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Speaker 4: terrible place, but yet you must have the utmost respect

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Speaker 4: for him, but.

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Speaker 1: He's still in that same world. Yeah, and were able

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Speaker 1: to break the cycle of.

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Speaker 2: He acknowledged the same thing, you know, he said, Man,

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Speaker 2: he said, I don't know, He said, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: He said, Look, you've come, I'm still here.

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Speaker 4: And it'd be hard to look that man in the

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Speaker 4: eyes knowing he saved you. Literally it is put his

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Speaker 4: fucking heart and soul in a meaning you didn't know

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Speaker 4: on behalf of his partner.

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Speaker 1: It is man, it is so because that's really powerful

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Speaker 1: right there. Bro.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I came here thirty years ago to build a family.

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Speaker 2: That's something that I always wanted. Was Yeah, as I

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Speaker 2: always said to people, I was the bad person. I

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Speaker 2: just got a bit loss. And then you know, with

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Speaker 2: everything that was piled on top of it, with the

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Speaker 2: abuse and everything and everything.

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Speaker 1: I really I last.

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Speaker 2: And today sitting here talking with you, I built that

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Speaker 2: family and I've got beautiful grandchildren.

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Speaker 1: And I never thought this was possible.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen years ago, I kept doing what I said before,

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Speaker 2: sim look setting yourself up for failure. I would go

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Speaker 2: out and get that good job and then go to

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Speaker 2: the hub. I would go out and get that good woman,

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Speaker 2: go and screw someone else. I would go out and

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Speaker 2: get this, and do this, go out and get this,

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Speaker 2: go out and achieve everything I ever wanted in my life.

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Speaker 1: And fucking do everything I could to fuck it up. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was very successful at that, and about fourteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: I ended up homeless. I'm in my fifties and I'm

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Speaker 1: under a bridge. I've got nothing. I've got no income

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Speaker 1: because I actually had a severe workplace injury.

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Speaker 2: I was on work cover. They'd stop paying me. Then

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Speaker 2: the doll wasn't paying me. So here in South Australia

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Speaker 2: we get fucked. We get ten cents for our cans

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Speaker 2: and our bottos that you do yes, so then it

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Speaker 2: was five cents. So here I am walking around creek beds,

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Speaker 2: looking at rubbish bins, doing what I could to find

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Speaker 2: a feet. I sit back today and in hindsight, I

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Speaker 2: could have raced out and got a bit more help

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Speaker 2: than I did. But I guess I just kicked into

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Speaker 2: my old prison ways and I became inverted.

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Speaker 1: Would you say you became a survivor.

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Speaker 4: I mean you're a survivor again of your environment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, back to survivor and again. That went on

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Speaker 2: for quite a while. A few weeks. I was blessed

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Speaker 2: enough to get a unit here in Salisbury and South Australia.

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. I remember the first night I

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Speaker 2: slept in that year. I slept on the carpet. I'll

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Speaker 2: never forget that carpet. I didn't have a knife for FORKSP.

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Speaker 4: Did it matter like knowing that you had this home,

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Speaker 4: this place to call home?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the beautiful lady the rest of it, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: she didn't. She didn't see anything except I think she

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Speaker 2: knew I needed help. You know. Her name was Ricky.

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget her. It's a beautiful lady. And I

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Speaker 2: think that she just seen that I needed a hand up.

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Speaker 2: So she said I could have the flat. I got up,

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Speaker 2: and I remember as I put it. I borrowed a pen,

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Speaker 2: a bit of paper from the newsagent. I wrote a

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Speaker 2: reference with my left hand and a reference with my

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Speaker 2: right hand.

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Speaker 1: And I was a good bloke, and you write your

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Speaker 1: own reference. I had to get invented, bro, I had

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Speaker 1: to survive. I was getting invented again.

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Speaker 2: Wow. And I went to the housing what they call

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Speaker 2: on the Housing trust her here I think they call

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Speaker 2: on the Housing Commission in Victoria, like the housing.

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Speaker 1: People that look after you.

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Speaker 2: We can go and the bond so you can get

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Speaker 2: assistance with four weeks bond and two weeks around or something.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: I go to these people here in Salisbury and I said, hey,

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Speaker 2: guess what, I'm living homeless under a bridge and I've

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Speaker 2: got somewhere to live. Can you please give me or

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Speaker 2: even lend me the bond and the rent? And they

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Speaker 2: said no. I said what they said, we can't help you,

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Speaker 2: mister kay, I said, what do you mean, you can't

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Speaker 2: help me? You see what I didn't know, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know whether a lot of people realize, is that

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Speaker 2: if you want assistance from the housing, I don't know

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Speaker 2: about any other state. I'm only talking about here in sales, right.

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Speaker 2: If you want assistance from the housing, you need to

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Speaker 2: have an income. You see, if you don't have an income,

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Speaker 2: they won't help you. And she said to me, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's changed since then. We're going

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Speaker 2: back forteen years, so maybe it's not. If you do

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Speaker 2: not have an income, they will not give you the

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Speaker 2: bond or the rent. The girl said to me, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: I can't help you. I hear you, but I can't

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Speaker 2: help you. And I said to her, I said, darlan,

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Speaker 2: if you send me back to that bridge, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if I'm coming out from under there tomorrow. And

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Speaker 2: she said, look, I'm sorry, I can't help you. So

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Speaker 2: I got up and I started to leave. I put

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Speaker 2: my hand on the door, and the lady in the

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Speaker 2: cubicle next to us was the manager, and she turned

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Speaker 2: herround and said, mister Kate, you get your ass back here.

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Speaker 2: And then she turned around and said to the girl,

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Speaker 2: you get the check made up for him, and you

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Speaker 2: do it now. So they gave me the check and

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Speaker 2: I moved in. I remember I stayed in that platform

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Speaker 2: three years and I bought the biggest ass cheese cake

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Speaker 2: I could ever buy, and trust in South Australia Allsbrey

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Speaker 2: to say thank you Jee's on that day, I.

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Speaker 4: You know, shows the sort of heart that you've got.

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Speaker 4: That that right there, that's that's that's a special thing.

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