WEBVTT - The U.S. Report | 26 September

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<v Speaker 1>This is the US Report with James Morrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening and welcome to the program. Here's what's coming

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<v Speaker 2>up tonight. Breaking news. Former FBI director James Comy has

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<v Speaker 2>been indicted. We'll find out what's happening. Plus what happened

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<v Speaker 2>at the Charlie Kirk Memorial. Brandon Divine was there. She'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell us all about this amazing experience.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's back.

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris's book tour is underway and well, no surprise,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going well. But first, what a week in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. To borrow a phrase, it was the

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<v Speaker 2>best of times with Donald Trump going to the UN

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<v Speaker 2>and absolutely sticking it to the globalists. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>the worst of times with a deranged leftist madman opening

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<v Speaker 2>fire on an ICE facility in Dallas, Texas. A star contrast,

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<v Speaker 2>to be sure, that illustrates the growing divide in America

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<v Speaker 2>between what the Trump administration is trying to achieve and

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<v Speaker 2>an increasingly violent and revolutionary and insurrectionary left that is

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<v Speaker 2>determined to stop him. Now, first, let's have a look

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<v Speaker 2>at Trump's visit to the UN, which escalator fails and

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<v Speaker 2>teleprompted disashes aside was frankly a triumph. He took on

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<v Speaker 2>a lot during his speech, which went for an entire hour.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it is true that someone at the UN

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<v Speaker 2>monkeyed with his teleprompter, well that was an own goal

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<v Speaker 2>for the ages, as the president's original speech was only

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to go for fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>While he was at the lectern, Trump laid out some

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<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable truths, but truths nonetheless, which may have horrified the

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<v Speaker 2>editorial writers at The New York Times in the Siday

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<v Speaker 2>Morning Herald, but which were also quietly acknowledged as fundamentally

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<v Speaker 2>correct by many more around the globe. First a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of what the president had to say about climate.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen eighty two, the executive director of the United

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<v Speaker 3>Nations Environmental Program predicted that by the year two thousand,

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<v Speaker 3>climate change would cause a global catastrophe. He said that

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<v Speaker 3>it will be irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust would be.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what they said at the United Nations. What

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<v Speaker 3>happened here we are Another unofficial stated in nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 3>nine that within a decade, entire nations could be wiped

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<v Speaker 3>off the map by global warming not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>And on the subject of migration, well he didn't miss here.

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<v Speaker 2>He pointed the finger at the UN for helping to

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<v Speaker 2>create the crisis at America's southern border.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only is the UN not solving the problems it should,

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<v Speaker 3>too often, it's actually creating new problems for us to solve.

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<v Speaker 3>The best example is the number one political issue of

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<v Speaker 3>our time, the crisis of uncontrolled migration. It's uncontrolled trees

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<v Speaker 3>are being ruined. The United Nations is funding an assault

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<v Speaker 3>on Western countries and their borders. In twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 3>the UN budgeted three hundred and seventy two million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>in cash assistance to support and estimated six hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four thousand migrants journeying into the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>And he took the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Global America belongs to the American people, and I encourage

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<v Speaker 3>all countries to take their own stand in defense of

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<v Speaker 3>their citizens as well. You have to do that because

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<v Speaker 3>I see it. I'm not mentioning names. I see it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I could call every single one of them. You're

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<v Speaker 3>destroying your countries. They're being destroyed. Europe is in serious trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>They've been invaded by a force of illegal aliens like

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<v Speaker 3>nobody's ever seen before. Illegal aliens are pouring into Europe.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody is ever and nobody's doing anything to change it,

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<v Speaker 3>to get him out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not sustainable.

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<v Speaker 3>And because they choose to be politically correct, they're doing

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<v Speaker 3>just absolutely nothing about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Summing up, the President had this to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Both the immigration and their suicidal energy ideas will be

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<v Speaker 3>the death of Western Europe. If something is not done immediately,

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<v Speaker 3>they cannot This cannot be sustained. What makes the world

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<v Speaker 3>so beautiful is that each country is unique. But to

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<v Speaker 3>stay this way, every sovereign nation must have the right

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<v Speaker 3>to control their own borders. You have the right to

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<v Speaker 3>control your borders.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely spot on. And there he was talking about Western

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<v Speaker 2>Europe in specific, but he could also have been talking,

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<v Speaker 2>I think about Australia. But it is this issue of

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<v Speaker 2>migration which Donald Trump campaigned on and which saw him

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<v Speaker 2>quickly meet his campaign promise to close and fix the

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<v Speaker 2>southern border, which is also acting like a red rag

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<v Speaker 2>to an increasingly violent and feral left that on its

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<v Speaker 2>fringes seems to be embracing the idea of political violence

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<v Speaker 2>at an alarming rate.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>In Dallas, two days ago, police alleged this man took

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<v Speaker 2>a sniper's rifle and opened a fire at an ICE facility,

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<v Speaker 2>taking aim at ICE agents, but instead only killing one

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<v Speaker 2>detainee and wounding two others. The cops say he scrolled

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<v Speaker 2>the words anti ICE on his shell casings, and that

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<v Speaker 2>a search of his home found more writings that were

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<v Speaker 2>both anti immigration enforcement and radically against the federal government.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this occurred not long after, of course, the assassination

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<v Speaker 2>of Charlie Kirk, again by what officials believed to have

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<v Speaker 2>been a crazed leftist, though war will come out through

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<v Speaker 2>that in the courts. But given the way the phrase

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<v Speaker 2>anti ICE is now a staple of leftist propaganda, it

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<v Speaker 2>feels like there is a bigger problem on the left.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just a few violent radicals on the fringes now,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's an entire culture, a violent rhetoric that is

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<v Speaker 2>seeking to normalize the use of violence, and it seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be working.

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<v Speaker 1>The assault on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Dallas facility comes amid a one thousand percent increase in

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<v Speaker 2>assaults on ICE officers, and there has been a series

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<v Speaker 2>of increasingly violent sieges and attacks on ICE facilities, as

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<v Speaker 2>well as a broader surge in political violence in general

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<v Speaker 2>from the left. Just a few days ago, we saw

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<v Speaker 2>a country club wedding in New Hampshire shot up by

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<v Speaker 2>someone yelling Free Palestine. And the scary thing is this

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<v Speaker 2>message of violence being pushed along all over the place

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<v Speaker 2>in politics and the media, and it is being normalized

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<v Speaker 2>in the culture. At Georgetown University in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 2>Where I went to school, incidentally, back before it became

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<v Speaker 2>a bastion of crazed progressivism, posters are appearing for a

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<v Speaker 2>new club with the phrase hey fascist catch, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the same slogan that was written on one of the

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<v Speaker 2>shellcasings of Charlie Kirk's alleged shooter in Washington. House Minority

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<v Speaker 2>leader Hakim Jeffries has called for ICE agent's identities to

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<v Speaker 2>be exposed despite the huge risk that poses to them

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<v Speaker 2>and their families.

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<v Speaker 4>Every single.

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<v Speaker 5>ICE agent who's engaged in this aggressive overreach, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>trying to hide their identities from the American people will

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<v Speaker 5>be unsuccessful in doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>This is America Head over at MSNBC. Well, it's even

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<v Speaker 2>more chilling there. They are pumping propaganda out on the

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<v Speaker 2>airwaves saying that ICE Immigration and Customs Enforcement is no

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<v Speaker 2>better than, or is in fact equivalent to the Nazi Gestapo.

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<v Speaker 6>Looking more and more like an American Gestapo.

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<v Speaker 7>They're huddled around the elevator banks in masks without identifying information.

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<v Speaker 7>What they're terrifying like these are Gestapo tactics.

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<v Speaker 6>But has created this years they've seen the kind of

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<v Speaker 6>fascist Ice Gestapo militias go around Latino American citizens in

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<v Speaker 6>places like La.

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<v Speaker 2>ICE agents masked ICE Gestapo agents getting more funding than

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<v Speaker 2>any other law enforcement agency in the history of the

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<v Speaker 2>United States.

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<v Speaker 8>Ice running gestopo like around our country. The Gestapo had

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<v Speaker 8>the same function.

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<v Speaker 6>It was there to draw distinction between us and them.

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<v Speaker 6>It was not federally, it was controlled from the by

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<v Speaker 6>the leader. And we're seeing disturbing similarities between this force

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<v Speaker 6>and the Gestapo.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, you know what happens next.

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<v Speaker 2>You call someone the Gestapo or Nazis long enough and

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<v Speaker 2>people start to take you seriously, and some of them

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<v Speaker 2>start to act out violently because in their twisted minds,

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<v Speaker 2>they not only believe this nonsense but also see violence

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<v Speaker 2>as an acceptable solution. That Donald Trump is onto them.

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<v Speaker 2>And he had a warning for the left a few

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<v Speaker 2>hours ago. Let's have a look at what he had

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<v Speaker 2>to say in the Oval Office.

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<v Speaker 8>Who do you hold responsible for the uptick in the

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<v Speaker 8>left wing violence radical left rhetoric.

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<v Speaker 3>The radical left is causing the problem. They're out of control,

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<v Speaker 3>they're saying things and they're really dumb people. The radical

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<v Speaker 3>left is causing this problem, not the right, the radical left,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's going to get worse, and ultimately it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to go back on them. I mean, bad things happen

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<v Speaker 3>when they play these games. And I'll give you a

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<v Speaker 3>little clue. The right is a lot tougher than the left.

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<v Speaker 3>But the right's not doing this. They're not doing it,

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<v Speaker 3>and they better not get them energized.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see it happen either.

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<v Speaker 2>But until the left decides to knock it off, I

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<v Speaker 2>fear it's only going to get worse before it gets better.

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<v Speaker 2>And guess what, they'll only have themselves to blame. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>joining me now is Sean Spicer. You know him well,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the former White House Press Secretary. To join me

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<v Speaker 2>tonight on the Usport Shawan, thanks so much for coming

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<v Speaker 2>on the program. We've got this breaking news about the

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<v Speaker 2>James Cully indictment. Tell us what we know so far,

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<v Speaker 2>what he's been charged with to the extent that we know,

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<v Speaker 2>and how is this being received, because I imagine a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people are going to be out there saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is just Trump and Pam Bondy trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>retribution on the left. But I think there's a bit

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<v Speaker 2>more to it than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, good to be with you, James.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, this is breaking right now. So the response is

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<v Speaker 7>somewhat as you would expect, meaning the people on the

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<v Speaker 7>right are celebrating it. The people on the left, I

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<v Speaker 7>think are likely reflexively saying this is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that if you want to.

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<v Speaker 7>Cut through all of the partisan responses on both sides,

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<v Speaker 7>here's what I would suggest to folks. There's an inspector

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<v Speaker 7>general at the each of the departments in agencies in

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<v Speaker 7>the United States, and that is a person who is

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<v Speaker 7>a lawyer, and their job is to kind of be

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<v Speaker 7>the watchdog within each agency. So whether it's the Department

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<v Speaker 7>of Homeland Security, the FBI, or the Food and Drug Administration,

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<v Speaker 7>they all have an inspector general. The inspector General of

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<v Speaker 7>the FBI did a report a while back that said

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<v Speaker 7>that there's no question that James Comy did, in fact

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<v Speaker 7>leak classified information to reporters to try to get favorable

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<v Speaker 7>stories and narratives out there against Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 9>So that is a known fact.

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<v Speaker 7>Then the question is what is a jury or a

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<v Speaker 7>grand jury in the United States willing to do. And

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<v Speaker 7>as you know, what we call the statute limitations here,

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<v Speaker 7>meaning the time you have to charge somebody for a

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<v Speaker 7>crime is coming up very shortly. The clearly the Eastern

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<v Speaker 7>District of Virginia US attorney has now it appears, gotten

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<v Speaker 7>a grand jury to indict him. That's the first step

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<v Speaker 7>in a process. That just means that there's enough to

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<v Speaker 7>go to trial. So this is the first step. There's

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<v Speaker 7>a saying in the United States that you can indict

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<v Speaker 7>a ham sandwich. The idea is there's really not a

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<v Speaker 7>high burden of proof. And I only say that just

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<v Speaker 7>to make clear to your audience that this is not

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<v Speaker 7>a conviction.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just the sort of the.

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<v Speaker 7>Green light to go to trial. And that's what is

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<v Speaker 7>happening now. So we are in that process.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no question.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think that Comy did in fact share information

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<v Speaker 7>that he was not privileged to do so. And the

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<v Speaker 7>question is now will he plead out on that, because

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<v Speaker 7>that's where I think this gets interesting. Do Comy or

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<v Speaker 7>his associates say it's not worth going to trial, or

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<v Speaker 7>do they try to plead down to something. I think

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<v Speaker 7>this is where it gets.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I want to move on though, to some of

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<v Speaker 2>this other stuff that we've been seeing this week. I

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<v Speaker 2>spoke at the top of the program about this horrific

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<v Speaker 2>attack at this ice facility in Dallas and the eyes

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<v Speaker 2>of political violence from the left here that seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be really afflicting the nation at the moment. Now we've

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<v Speaker 2>just seen Vice President jd Vance offer up incredibly scathing

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<v Speaker 2>rebuke of Gavin Newsom, basically accusing the Democrat governor of

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<v Speaker 2>encouraging crazy people to go after law enforcement. Here he was,

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<v Speaker 2>here's a little bit of this.

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<v Speaker 10>When Democrats like Gavin Newsom did say that these people

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<v Speaker 10>are part of an authoritarian government. When the left wing

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<v Speaker 10>media lies about what they're doing, when they lie about

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<v Speaker 10>who they're arresting, when they lie about the actual job

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<v Speaker 10>of law enforcement, what they're doing is encouraging crazy people

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<v Speaker 10>to go and commit violence. You don't have to agree

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<v Speaker 10>with my immigration policies, you don't have to agree with

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<v Speaker 10>Donald Trump's immigration policies, But if your political rhetoric encourages

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<v Speaker 10>violence against our law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go straight to hell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean straight to hell is a pretty strong

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<v Speaker 2>thing to say. But I think he's right here, Shan.

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<v Speaker 2>The left is really turning up the temperature so hot

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<v Speaker 2>on the political climate in the United States, aren't They absolutely.

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<v Speaker 7>Look for the last week after the assassination at Charlie Kirk,

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<v Speaker 7>we've heard them talk about both sides and violence on

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<v Speaker 7>both sides. But the bottom line is, immediately after that,

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<v Speaker 7>we've had ice agents, ice vehicles, ice property, had rocks, projectiles,

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<v Speaker 7>bottles thrown at it, and the left says nothing. These

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<v Speaker 7>are government officials doing their job following the law in America.

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<v Speaker 7>If you don't like the law, you change it, you

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<v Speaker 7>vote for change, you elect new people, you petition your government.

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<v Speaker 1>But the left is silent.

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<v Speaker 7>And here's what the media is failing to tell you.

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<v Speaker 7>I did a cursory search of all of the social

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<v Speaker 7>media of the leaders Chuck Schumer, had Keem, jeffries Aoc.

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<v Speaker 7>None of them will say, do not attack an ICE agent,

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<v Speaker 7>do not attack an ICE facility. Violence is never acceptable.

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<v Speaker 7>They love to use words like let's turn down the volume,

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<v Speaker 7>let's turn down the rhetoric, but they won't condemn their

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<v Speaker 7>own side, and the media in this country is complicit

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<v Speaker 7>in allowing it to go on. The Vice President James

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<v Speaker 7>is absolutely correct on this. This is ridiculous. If you're

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<v Speaker 7>going to say that violence is unacceptable, then admit it.

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<v Speaker 7>Right now, your side is coming after ice agents doing

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<v Speaker 7>their job, fulfilling their legal obligation, and the left is silent.

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<v Speaker 7>And to the Vice President's point, James, when you tell

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<v Speaker 7>people their thugs, their KGB operators, they're like Nazis, They're

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<v Speaker 7>like Hitler the Gestapo. What do you think is going

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<v Speaker 7>to happen at some point if somebody believes that the

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<v Speaker 7>threat is big enough because the Democrats, the leaders of

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<v Speaker 7>the Democrats have told them that, then it is your

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<v Speaker 7>almost obligation to say, well, then I must stop it,

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<v Speaker 7>I must do something, because that's what the left has done.

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<v Speaker 7>They've got these people believing that it's their obligation, in fact,

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<v Speaker 7>to some degree, their duty to take.

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<v Speaker 9>Action, and they own this.

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<v Speaker 7>All of the blood of those people that died yesterday

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<v Speaker 7>is on the leaders of the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we've seen the news that the president has

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<v Speaker 2>officially named Antifa a terrorist organization. Now is called antifa

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<v Speaker 2>because it supposedly means anti fascist, but they act pretty fascist.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you think this is going to go because

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<v Speaker 2>once the left claims it doesn't even exist, but people

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<v Speaker 2>are posting on social media guidelines that antifa itself is

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<v Speaker 2>put out about how to raise an insurrection and how

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<v Speaker 2>to hold a riot successfully.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 7>I had Harmeat Dillon on my show yesterday. She's the

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<v Speaker 7>Assistant Attorney General for several rights. She walked through the

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<v Speaker 7>whole process how she prosecuted some of these folks. Look,

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<v Speaker 7>at the end of the day, one of the things

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<v Speaker 7>that's really interesting is the left wants to pretend this

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<v Speaker 7>is a morphoist group of people that we have no

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<v Speaker 7>idea who they are. It's a loose group of people that,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, there's no common thread. But when you look

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<v Speaker 7>at the funding, there is a common thread. We can

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<v Speaker 7>get to who's funding it. Why do all the tents

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<v Speaker 7>that these antifa antifa sites and rallies look the same.

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<v Speaker 7>How's faying for the the you know, equipment and the weaponry.

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<v Speaker 7>Somebody's paying for it. It is got to have some

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<v Speaker 7>kind of command and control, some kind of leadership, and

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<v Speaker 7>Donald Trump is instructing the federal government for the first

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<v Speaker 7>time to actually go after it to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 7>But that's like saying that the mafia back in the

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<v Speaker 7>nineteen seventies eighties was a sort of an amorphous group.

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<v Speaker 7>There's always a leadership, there's always somebody that's paying for it,

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<v Speaker 7>there's someone that's coordinating.

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<v Speaker 1>The command and the control.

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<v Speaker 7>And Donald Trump is making our government look at this

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<v Speaker 7>in a realistic way for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Sean, I mean, I'm glad you mentioned the mafia because,

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<v Speaker 2>of course the racketeering and organized crime Organization at RICO.

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<v Speaker 2>The RICO statutes were used to get the mafia precisely

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<v Speaker 2>because of that. Do you think the same sort of

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<v Speaker 2>RICO statutes, the same sort of anti mafia statutes could

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<v Speaker 2>be used by the Justice Department to shut down Antifa?

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<v Speaker 9>Well?

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, But more than that, James, it's not just the statute,

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<v Speaker 7>it's the leadership, right. So when I was talking to

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<v Speaker 7>Hermeat Dyllon, she was it's a question of willpower and leadership, right.

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<v Speaker 7>So I think that your question about the specific law

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<v Speaker 7>is important. But if you're not willing to at least

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<v Speaker 7>look into this and figure out what they've done, you're

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<v Speaker 7>right they use that Rico statue to go after the mob,

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<v Speaker 7>to talk about how there is something bigger at stake

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<v Speaker 7>that we needed to address. I think absolutely that kind

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<v Speaker 7>of a statue can be used. But what is reassuring

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<v Speaker 7>as an American is that a leader of our government

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<v Speaker 7>and that flows all the way down to not just

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<v Speaker 7>Donald Trump, but to Pam Bondi, Attorney General, and Harmet Dellon,

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<v Speaker 7>the Assistant Attorney General, and others at that level. The

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<v Speaker 7>FBI under Cash Pttel are willing to go after it

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<v Speaker 7>and to prosecute it because that's been the view of

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<v Speaker 7>the last several administrations, which is we don't even need

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<v Speaker 7>to look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean, We're gonna have to leave with there, Seawan Spicer,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for your insights and check out

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<v Speaker 2>the Sean Spicer Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course. Now, thank you so much for your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Now, I am thrilled to be joined by Miranda Devine.

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<v Speaker 2>You know her well from the New York Post and

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<v Speaker 2>from her books The Big Guy, How a President and

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<v Speaker 2>his Son sold Out America and of course Laptop from Hell. Branda,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for joining me tonight on the

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<v Speaker 2>US Report. Big breaking news about the indictment of James Comy,

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me what do we know? How is this being received,

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<v Speaker 2>and how is the media trying to spin this as

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<v Speaker 2>being about Trump retribution and not about claims that he

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<v Speaker 2>lied to Congress, which is a pretty serious matter.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, thanks James.

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<v Speaker 11>It really is huge news and honestly, just broke very

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<v Speaker 11>shortly ago in New York and so the immediate reaction

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<v Speaker 11>so far.

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<v Speaker 8>Hasn't been voluminous other than.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, it's too cast kind of doubt on whether

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<v Speaker 11>or not this is legitimate and whether this is Trump

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<v Speaker 11>weaponizing the FBI, just as he complained that his predecessor

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<v Speaker 11>weaponized the FBI. But the fact is that James Comey,

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<v Speaker 11>the former FBI director, was instrumental in this crossfire hurricane,

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<v Speaker 11>this Russia hoax. He set out to entrap the president,

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<v Speaker 11>and he really was responsible for crippling the first three

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<v Speaker 11>years of Donald Trump's first term. So naturally, Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 11>who fired him probably too late, is up for blood

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<v Speaker 11>and has been for many years. But that doesn't help

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<v Speaker 11>you in the courts. And these are legitimate indictments brought

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<v Speaker 11>down by a grand jury. They are for making a

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<v Speaker 11>false statement, which is slightly different from perjury, and also

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<v Speaker 11>obstruction of justice, and we believe they are to do

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<v Speaker 11>with Comy's testimony exactly five years ago to Congress in

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<v Speaker 11>which he was asked about leaks of classified information to

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<v Speaker 11>do with the Russia hoax, which he himself admitted ended

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<v Speaker 11>up leading to the establishment of an independent investigator in

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<v Speaker 11>Robert Mueller, which really tied up the Trump administration. He

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<v Speaker 11>Comy said he had hoped that would happen, but whether

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<v Speaker 11>or not, you know, they seem to think that they've

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<v Speaker 11>got him on lies, and certainly it was enough for

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<v Speaker 11>a grand jury to agree. The grand jury apparently was

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<v Speaker 11>given three charges and only decided on two, the other

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<v Speaker 11>one throughout what I think was perjury.

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<v Speaker 8>So let's see where it goes. I think there's been.

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<v Speaker 11>A lot of internal turmoil in the Department of Justice.

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<v Speaker 11>There are a lot of Biden holdovers, even Obama holdovers there,

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<v Speaker 11>and Attorney General Pam Bondi.

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<v Speaker 8>Has really been tackling a.

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<v Speaker 11>Lot of it's sort of internal warfare and has been

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<v Speaker 11>sacking people left, right and center. And it was only

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<v Speaker 11>a couple of weeks ago that Donald Trump issued a

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<v Speaker 11>truth social addressed specifically to his Attorney General, Pam What

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<v Speaker 11>are you doing a lot of people aren't happy because basically,

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<v Speaker 11>people like James Comy and Adam Schiff are not Nothing's

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<v Speaker 11>going to happen to them. That's the word that they're

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<v Speaker 11>going to get away with it. And because the statute

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<v Speaker 11>of limitations on these Comy perjury or false statement claims

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<v Speaker 11>due to run out on Tuesday, September thirty, really the

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<v Speaker 11>time was of the essence and they needed to get

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<v Speaker 11>these charges out before then. And so I guess Donald

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<v Speaker 11>Trump was hurrying her up and had heard that there

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<v Speaker 11>was turmoil and that there were there were prosecutors who

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<v Speaker 11>were refusing to go ahead with this Comy prosecution. But

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<v Speaker 11>Donald Trump installed his own prosecutor in the Eastern District

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<v Speaker 11>of Virginia, a former lawyer called Lindsay Halligan, and she

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<v Speaker 11>was only installed on Monday, and lo and behold, three

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<v Speaker 11>days later, here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's fascinating all of these investigations into what everybody

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<v Speaker 2>who was investigating and trying to take down Trump even

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<v Speaker 2>before he became president the second time have found. Because

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<v Speaker 2>we've also had this week news that the FBI when

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<v Speaker 2>they rated John Bolton's DC office. We remember when that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>a number of weeks ago found classified documents. Now you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned Adam Shift before. He was one of the people

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<v Speaker 2>who said, well, you know, this is a huge problem

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<v Speaker 2>for Donald Trump because there was classified material at Mara Lago.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's a classifying authority. This would seem to say that, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this exposes the left and the Democrats and say, well

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<v Speaker 2>John Bolton should be treated just the same as they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to treat Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, And look that case, the Bolton case is still

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<v Speaker 11>to go through the courts, but certainly the allegations are

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<v Speaker 11>that he had classified material in his office and I

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<v Speaker 11>think in his home, and presumably he was using that

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<v Speaker 11>material to write his book.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it was like inside.

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<v Speaker 11>The room or something, which was veryy Donald Trump was.

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<v Speaker 11>John Bolton was very sore because Donald Trump got rid

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<v Speaker 11>of him and he thought that he was a crazy

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<v Speaker 11>warhawk and just wanted more blood and mayhem. And that

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<v Speaker 11>was true enough. I mean, he's an old neo con

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<v Speaker 11>and that's not what the MAGA base wants anymore and

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<v Speaker 11>certainly not what Donald Trump favors.

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<v Speaker 8>And so they fell out quite spectacularly.

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<v Speaker 11>And John Bolton wrote this warts an all book, and

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<v Speaker 11>you know, it's very different a president having classified material

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<v Speaker 11>or former president, because he's perfectly entitled to classify or

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<v Speaker 11>declassify anything he likes.

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<v Speaker 8>And so that's what Donald Trump claimed.

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<v Speaker 11>And in the end, Donald Trump was not prosecuted for

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<v Speaker 11>handling classified information. The person who was guilty, well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 11>certainly there was information that the prosecutor, the special prosecutor

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<v Speaker 11>looking into him, Robert hurfound that there was plenty of

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<v Speaker 11>evidence to show that Joe Biden had squirreled away classified

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<v Speaker 11>information that he should not have, including during the time.

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<v Speaker 8>When he was senator.

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<v Speaker 11>And yet he's Robert hurstaid, but we're not going to

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<v Speaker 11>go ahead and charge him because yeah, it's unlikely a

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<v Speaker 11>jury would find him guilty because that'd set him as

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<v Speaker 11>an elderly man with a poor memory.

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<v Speaker 8>So he got away with that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we all remember all the photos and vision of

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<v Speaker 2>all those boxes stacked up next to the classic Corvette

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<v Speaker 2>and Delaware. Hey, Miranda, before I let you go, the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why I wanted you on the show when we origin.

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<v Speaker 2>What I originally invited you on this week was to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the Charlie Kirk memorial, which you had the

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<v Speaker 2>privilege to attend. And I still want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that a bit. You were there in the arena. I

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<v Speaker 2>just love you know we spoke about this before, but

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<v Speaker 2>I love you to share with our viewers your feelings

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.360
<v Speaker 2>and your thoughts about what happened there in that arena,

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 2>because it was such a special thing. Your perspective on

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Charlie Kirk and his legacy, and what those hundreds of

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:04.400
<v Speaker 2>thousands of people who were there and the millions were

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:07.399
<v Speaker 2>watching are going out now and doing in terms of

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 2>taking that positive conservative message out to America in the world.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I was actually right opposite the arena.

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<v Speaker 11>In the Fox set up, but yeah, it looked an

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 11>incredible occasion. And I think Erica Kirk's speech in which

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 11>she forgave the murderer of her husband the assassin, was

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.199
<v Speaker 11>something that none of us will see again. And I

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 11>certainly have never felt the emotion that everyone in that

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 11>room felt. And it's I think the ripple effect going

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 11>from Charlie Kirk's assassination has really affected the entire country.

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 11>And I've heard from people in.

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 8>Australia and across the world as well that he was really.

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<v Speaker 11>A modern day martyr, and he was you know, he

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:01.679
<v Speaker 11>was a conservative youth leader, but he was also a

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 11>Christian evangelist, and he reached many people on campuses. He

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 11>would just go and he would debate them civilly and

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 11>courteously and just put up facts. And he has been

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 11>so badly character assassinated during the period before his death

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 11>until he was finally assassinated. And I think that a

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 11>lot of people now.

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:31.160
<v Speaker 8>Are looking back at his words and the thousands of hours.

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 11>Of videotape that was made of his debates and his

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 11>speeches and his books and his daily podcast and seeing

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.159
<v Speaker 11>oh they were wrong, that they were lied to, that

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 11>the media lied and said that you were stone gaze,

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 11>or that he was racist. None of that was all

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.159
<v Speaker 11>taken out of context and twisted. So he really had

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 11>a message of love, and he was a warrior, conservative warrior,

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 11>but he was really about people, you know, encouraging young

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 11>people to get married and have children and lead a

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 11>happy and fulfilling life, and particularly to young men, just

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 11>like the young men who ended up murdering him.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Maranda, thank you so much for your time. Thank

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 2>for joining me on the US sport, always appreciating that.

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Don't go anywhere, because you know why, when I'll be

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 2>joined by Gerard Baker, editor at large with the Wall

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Street Journal. But first I just had to bring you

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 2>this amazing bit of trolling by the White House where

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 2>they've installed a new gallery of presidents, a wall of fame.

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>There you see them, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, w Trump

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 2>the first time around, Joe Biden. Hey wait, no, no, no,

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 2>look at that they put up a picture of the

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 2>auto pen. Absolute gold. Gerard Baker coming up after the break.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the program, and I'm thrilled now to

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 2>be joined by Gerhard Baker, the Wall Street Journal's editor

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 2>at large.

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<v Speaker 1>Gerard, Welcome to the program.

0:28:58.240 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 2>I want to have a chat with you because you've

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 2>written an another fantastic piece in the Journal talking about

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 2>the Charlie Kirk assassination and the aftermath, particularly what happened

0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>on social media. And I just want to quote this

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 2>a little bit here, where you write, our newly democratized

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 2>digital discourse seems on track to turn into a French

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Revolution style terror. Now, Geord, I think you're on the

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 2>right track here, and I've also heard others say this

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.959
<v Speaker 2>feels very much akin to the late Czarist era in Russia,

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 2>which was also shot through with political violence. But how

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 2>does America stop from falling into a spiral of retribution,

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 2>because it seems to me that right now both sides

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of have to step back from this abits, but

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 2>neither has an appetite to tap the brakes.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts of all of this.

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<v Speaker 12>Yep, you're right, James, Thanks again for having me. It's

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 12>a great pleasure to be with you.

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 9>As z Eva, it is.

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 12>It's a problem, and I know it's a problem in Australia,

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 12>it's a problem in the UK. It's a problem in

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 12>many other countries too. The particular problem, James, and thank

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 12>you for referencing the columns is what I wrote about.

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 12>What I wrote about this last week was how the

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 12>particular phenomenon that if you like that, the kind of

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 12>logic of social media and indeed digital media more generally,

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 12>actually accentuates the extremism because it incentivizes, it incentivizes the

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 12>most extreme, the most if you're like, unreasonable, the most

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 12>hard line position on both sides. Most the vast majority

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 12>of Americans, as with Australians and other people around the.

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 9>World, they don't want political violence, they don't.

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 12>Really want open partisan ship, really polar They don't hate

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 12>their opponents, they don't hate the rest of the country.

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 12>But unfortunately, those voices don't get much of a hearing, frankly,

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 12>because they're just not that interesting. The more extreme you are,

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 12>the more radical you are, the more frankly violent you are,

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 12>at least verbally, the more of a hearing you're going

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 12>to get, the more you tend to dominate the debate.

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<v Speaker 9>What can we do about that? Look, I think I don't.

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 12>I really don't think the answer, James is regulation of

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 12>social media. You know, these people are out there, They're

0:30:57.680 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 12>going to be there, people are going to find that

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 12>information as they want. I think part of it is

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 12>we just, you know, when we get terrible events like

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 12>the murder of Charlie Kirk or the assassination attempts on

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 12>Donald Trump, or you know, we had another event this week, James,

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 12>as you know, these shooting at this ice facility down

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 12>in Dallas.

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<v Speaker 9>People have got to step back.

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 12>And it really is important for people on both sides,

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 12>but right now it is important for the left because

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 12>a lot of this violence is coming from the left.

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 12>They have to come out and say unequivocally, we condemned this.

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 12>There is no place for this violence, there is no justification,

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 12>and by the way. It's not enough to say, oh,

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 12>we can theemn violence, but by the way, Charlie Kirk

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 12>was a fascist, or oh, by the way, you know,

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:37.239
<v Speaker 12>we condemn violence, but these ice people are you know,

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 12>a murderous, horrible, murderous people.

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.239
<v Speaker 9>You can't do that. You have to come out and

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 9>you have.

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 12>To dial down the rhetoric and say, look, we don't

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 12>we disagree. We're entitled to disagree. We have a disagreement

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 12>with the ballot box and in public, but we don't

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 12>in any way condone the kind of not just the

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 12>violence itself, but the conditions that lead to the violence.

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 9>We don't have that in America right now, and is

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 9>very dangerous.

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>It is dangerous.

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 2>And I agree with you, and I feel like there's

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 2>this sort of funny thing that's happened now where the

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 2>sides have shifted on these sorts of issues, because now

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 2>suddenly have the right talking about, you know, speech being

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>potentially violent and using the language of the left, and

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 2>the left doing what they've always accused the right of

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 2>being violent and so on.

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 1>But what strikes me.

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 2>About this social media thing that you're talking about is

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>how many people felt that it was okay to post

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.479
<v Speaker 2>really horrible things, and so many people who were like

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, teachers and people who were in very sort

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 2>of liberal kind of communities and so on thinking it's okay.

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Is the thing about the social media not just that

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 2>it encourages, but also it lets us see what people

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 2>really think. And maybe this has been sitting there under

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 2>the surface, you know, in these kind of you know,

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 2>supposedly peace, love and mung being left communities for a

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 2>long time.

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I think there is something to that.

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 12>Look again, I think what it is to be fair,

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 12>the vast majority of lets democratic officials, the vast majority

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 12>of people in the media who comment and come at

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 12>it from a very different political viewpoint from you and

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 12>I come at it from a very left wing viewpoint,

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 12>have said you know, I've been pretty clear, pretty unequivalent.

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 12>They certainly haven't celebrated Charlie Kirk's murder. They haven't condone it.

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 9>They haven't.

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 12>Actually they've been careful not even to say most of them,

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 12>you know, while he was murdered, I'm sorry about that, but.

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 9>He was a bad guy.

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 12>But again, it is these people, it is a certain

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 12>category of people. Some of them are quite prominent commensators.

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 12>You've seen some of that. But the worst of all, James,

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 12>it's just these kind of nobodies. By the way, some

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 12>of them may not even be real people, for all

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 12>we know, there could be bots. These kind of nobodies

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 12>are just crop up out of nowhere, and they know

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 12>that the one way they can get attention is by

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 12>saying something terrible. And I've seen, and I don't even

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 12>want to share it with your viewers, I've seen some

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:51.719
<v Speaker 12>terrible things about Charlie Kirk and celebrating the murder. And

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 12>the reason you know we're talking about this, James, is

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 12>because we're talking about it because those people got the

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 12>attention by doing the most obscene, violent, you know, anti democratic,

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:06.719
<v Speaker 12>really disgraceful thing. So that is the problem. And unless

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 12>those people are marginalized, and unless the language, unless that

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 12>the ferocity of the language is dialed down on both sides.

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 12>But right now, particularly by the left, you keep going

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 12>on about this country falling prey to a fascist dictatorship,

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 12>then I do think they are going to be They

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 12>have to be held responsible to some extent for creating

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 12>a climate of in which at least political violence is

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:28.720
<v Speaker 12>seen as an option by some people.

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Well earlier in the program, I played a kind of

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 2>a mashup of a lot of commentators on FSNBC, the

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:39.280
<v Speaker 2>very left wing network. They're saying ice agents, immigration agents

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 2>are the Gestapo, they are just like Hitler, they are

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, Nazis, they are all of this.

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>This sort of rhetoric.

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 2>And again I hate to use the sort of you know,

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 2>words or violence kind of thing that we've always heard

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>from the left, but it would seem that if you

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 2>keep pumping this into the culture, you're going to have

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 2>a minority, a small number of people. But in a

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 2>country of three hundred million people off you know, who

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 2>might decide to act were already seeing that. This seems

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 2>to me a real problem.

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 9>It is.

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 12>Look, and if you think about it, and you know,

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 12>I hesitate to put this, I'll pose this very carefully.

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 9>But if you really believe, if you really.

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 12>Believe that America is in the grip of a fascist dictatorship,

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 12>and there's a lot of this commentary about from very

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 12>serious people, supposedly serious people, if you really believe that

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 12>Donald Truck, if you believe this is Weimar, Germany nineteen

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:30.839
<v Speaker 12>thirty just ninety thirty three, and that you know, people

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 12>are going to be taken off the streets and are

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 12>going to lose their liberties and are going to be

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 12>murdered and all this kind of stuff.

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 9>If you really believe that, then there is a certain logic.

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.240
<v Speaker 12>We've all played that kind of you know, that intellectual game, James,

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 12>you know that we kind of you know, if you

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:46.760
<v Speaker 12>could go back and murder Hitler before he became Chancellor

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 12>of Germany in nineteen.

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 9>Thirty three, would you do it? Would it be the

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 9>right thing to do?

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 12>And most of us probably say, I mean, obviously it's

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 12>a ridiculous hypothetical question, but most of it would say,

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 12>you know what, yeah, of course murdering Hitler would have

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 12>been a reasonable thing to do if it would have

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 12>saved you know, the lives of millions of people. So

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 12>if you really believe and I don't, of course, and

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 12>I think this language is extreme, but if you really

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 12>believe that Donald Trump is another Hitler and that we're

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 12>going to have a Nazi essentially a kind of fascist

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 12>dictatorship in the United States, then actually, you know, some

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 12>of those people, you don't have to be a crazy,

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 12>you know, deranged disordered extremists. You could just think, you

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 12>know what, it's my duty to stop this country falling

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 12>into the hands of another adult Hitler. That's why that

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 12>language is so dangerous, because you really have.

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 9>To die about it.

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 12>And that's the problem, James, is this language has been

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 12>prevalent on all sides in American politics for a very

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 12>long time. The left accusing the right of accusing Republicans

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 12>of wanting to kill people by taking away their health care.

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:43.840
<v Speaker 12>You know, sometimes the right accusing liberals and progressives of

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 12>wanting to cancel people and destroy their freedoms, this kind

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 12>of stuff. It just this is a country right now, James,

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 12>that feels increasingly like the initiatives, the momentum is being

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<v Speaker 12>driven by the most extreme voices on both sides. That again,

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<v Speaker 12>that is that's good Win.

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<v Speaker 2>Will Girard, that's my being concerned. That's why I to

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<v Speaker 2>have you on a chat about it. But on that

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 2>baby Hitler game, I always turned around say well what

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 2>about a baby Jean Jacques Rousseau might have saved some

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 2>problems with that too. Thanks so much for your time, Gerard,

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 2>really appreciate it. Now stick around because you know that

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 2>cringe Kamala Harris interview that's been doing the rounds. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna do a deep dive with Adam Coleman on

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<v Speaker 2>that next. But first, this is hilarious. You know how

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump was very cross indeed about his treatment at

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<v Speaker 2>the UN. Well New York voiceover and lipsick actor Branson

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<v Speaker 2>Gates has reimagined the president's complaints about the UN as

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<v Speaker 2>if they were coming from a guy who's about to

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<v Speaker 2>get cut off at the bar.

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<v Speaker 3>The United Nations was an escalator that on the way up,

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<v Speaker 3>stopped right in the middle. If the first lady wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>in great shape, she would have fallen. But she's in

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<v Speaker 3>great shape. We're both in good shape, we both still.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's all that didn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>This is These are the two things I got from

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<v Speaker 3>the United Nations. A bad escalator and a bad teleprompter.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, mister President. You don't have to go home, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can't stay here. Kamala cringe in a tick. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to the program, now thrilled to be joined by

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<v Speaker 2>my good friend Adam B. Coleman, the founder of Wrong

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<v Speaker 2>Speak Publishing an author of the book The Children We

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<v Speaker 2>Left Behind. Adam, thanks so much for coming on. I

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<v Speaker 2>know we've got to talk about Kamala Harris's new book,

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<v Speaker 2>which is set to cause some major headaches for Camp Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>A new excerpts lifted the lid on the infamous Maga

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 2>hat moment when Joe Biden put on the cap and

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 2>she wrote, he took it. I thought, don't put it on.

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:54.720
<v Speaker 2>He put it on. Cameras clicked. Within hours, the picture

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<v Speaker 2>was all over Joe Biden in a Maga hat with

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<v Speaker 2>the caption Biden endorses Trump. Harris Adam tell us how

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<v Speaker 2>this book is starting to make waves already in the

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<v Speaker 2>Biden camp, which I think is pretty embarrassed by some

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<v Speaker 2>of the revelations in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I mean, this book just highlights what a lot

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 13>of us have already suspected. And actually I think it

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 13>was just a bad secret. Everyone knows that Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 13>and Joe Biden didn't get along like that. We saw

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<v Speaker 13>from the very beginning, and we saw it especially at

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<v Speaker 13>the bitter end when they said Joe don't come on

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<v Speaker 13>the campaign trail with us.

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 4>He was a liability.

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<v Speaker 13>So from the very start we saw that this relationship

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<v Speaker 13>wasn't all that solid in the first place.

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<v Speaker 4>But over time you would hear rumors.

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<v Speaker 13>Coming from the White House and other politicals talking about

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<v Speaker 13>some risks between the different staffs and different offices. So

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<v Speaker 13>it doesn't surprise me that Joe Biden would put the

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<v Speaker 13>Maga hat on even though being advised not to do it.

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<v Speaker 13>That's it as a jab or as a joke, or

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<v Speaker 13>maybe he did it because he was too snout to

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<v Speaker 13>realize that what he was putting on.

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<v Speaker 2>So who knows, who knows, who knows, But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got all of this great material now coming out

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 2>from Camala's book tour. She did a big interview with

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<v Speaker 2>MSNBC in which well she went from strengths to strengths.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean here she was labeling Donald Trump a tyrant.

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<v Speaker 14>Right now, we are dealing with, as I called him

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<v Speaker 14>at my speech on the Ellipse, a tyrant. We used

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<v Speaker 14>to compare the strength of our democracy to communist dictators.

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<v Speaker 14>That's what we're dealing with right now, Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>But my favorite bit Adam was here when he said

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<v Speaker 2>that they wouldn't pick Pete boodhage Ed's the Transportation secretary

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<v Speaker 2>as a running mate because he was gay, because it

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<v Speaker 2>was too risky.

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<v Speaker 14>Hell is to this to be a black woman running

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<v Speaker 14>for president of the United States and as a vice presidential.

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<v Speaker 8>Running mate a gay man.

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<v Speaker 14>With the stakes being so high, it made me very sad,

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<v Speaker 14>but I also realized it would be a real risk

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<v Speaker 14>no matter how. You know, I've been an advocate and

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<v Speaker 14>an ally of the LGBT community my entire life, So

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 14>it wasn't about it wasn't about it right, So it

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<v Speaker 14>wasn't about any any prejudice on my part.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam so much for the Party of Inclusion there. I

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<v Speaker 2>love that bit though, where she like you could see

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<v Speaker 2>her brain realizing that she's just said something really bad

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<v Speaker 2>and she tries to walk it back.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think.

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<v Speaker 13>It doesn't surprise me that she put her foot in

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<v Speaker 13>her mouth, you know, to say that she didn't pick

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<v Speaker 13>pick Buddha Chez because he's gay, but because how other

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:52.839
<v Speaker 13>people might make it difficult for him, and so I'm

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 13>just doing him a favor by not choosing him. It

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<v Speaker 13>just shows a love of cowardice that Kamala Harris is

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<v Speaker 13>and many of the Democrats who are in power.

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<v Speaker 2>Are listen to Scott Bessant, who is the Treasury Secretary

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<v Speaker 2>and an openly gay man, talking about what Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>had say.

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<v Speaker 1>Three things Maria.

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<v Speaker 15>First, it shows her emphasis on identity politics, and the

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 15>American people have moved on too. It shows how low

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 15>regard she holds the American people that they shees just

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 15>a terrible candidate. And three, you wouldn't pick Pete Budajette

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<v Speaker 15>because he might have been the worst Transportation secretary in history.

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<v Speaker 2>And Adam, it strikes me here that the real thing

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<v Speaker 2>is that, you know, the Republican President Donald Trump, who

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<v Speaker 2>supposedly this monster, has appointed the highest ranking gay official,

0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 2>openly gay official in American history. Kamala Harris is saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't do that because it's too risky. Which side

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<v Speaker 2>of politics is really the politics of merit and inclusion here?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, actually the side of politics right now about merit

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 13>inclusion is coming from the right. But what I would

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 13>say is this is about identity matters only when it

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 13>matches your persuasion, only when it matches the language that's

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 13>coming from that particular person. If this particular person is

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 13>black and conservative and they're the first of whatever, they

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 13>don't count. And that's how you end up with unremarkable

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 13>presidential candidates like Kamala Harris, who from even when I

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 13>was a Democrat, thought she was an unimpressive.

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<v Speaker 4>Politician, even as a senator. So this is what ends

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<v Speaker 4>up happening.

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<v Speaker 13>People like Kamala Harris become a symbol of something rather

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<v Speaker 13>than a person. So we don't get to judge her

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:50.320
<v Speaker 13>on which he is capable of doing, which isn't very much.

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 4>We have to look at her as a.

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<v Speaker 13>Symbol of some sort and symbolic politics surrounding identity is

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:04.240
<v Speaker 13>a failure, and it's failure even from their own choices.

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<v Speaker 13>I ourpously chose not to choose people to judge.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they purposely chose that. They purposely chose to pick

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:15.080
<v Speaker 2>somebody on identity, not merit. But Kamala Harris seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be suffering from this insane relevant deprivation syndrome because now

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:22.479
<v Speaker 2>she's also been on the view, of course, talking about

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<v Speaker 2>her voice being president in history.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a look.

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<v Speaker 14>It is the closest presidential race in the twenty first

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<v Speaker 14>century in terms of the outcome. We don't say that again,

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:36.399
<v Speaker 14>but he likes to say over and over again, he's

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 14>got a mandate and well, and that's part of why

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:43.160
<v Speaker 14>I wrote this book, because history will talk about this race.

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<v Speaker 14>It is part of American history, and it was important

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 14>to me that when history is written, that my voice

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<v Speaker 14>be present.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I sort of recall it being a

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:56.879
<v Speaker 2>bit of an electoral college blow up. But you know

0:44:57.000 --> 0:45:00.879
<v Speaker 2>what about this her voice being president history. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the ego and the delusion here, Adams.

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<v Speaker 13>Well not just delusion. You know, what she is doing

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 13>is very much so loser rhetoric. Only losers talk about

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 13>how close they came to winning.

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 4>And you know what winners do. Win. Winners win, It

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter if it's by an ench or not. They won.

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:22.440
<v Speaker 13>And so what she is doing is going around with

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:28.320
<v Speaker 13>this book with loser language, giving loser conversations to loser

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 13>networks and loser TV shows, and they're all clapping their

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 13>hands sympathetic to her because.

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 4>You were just so close.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh if only these races just came out and voted

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 13>for you, just one more time. Like she ran a doomed,

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:46.280
<v Speaker 13>doomed campaign. Everyone knew that this was going to happen.

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 13>No person who could actually win an election presidential election

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.840
<v Speaker 13>would actually take on the challenge that she did. She

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 13>was set up to fail because the Democrats didn't realize

0:45:57.000 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 13>that Joe Biden was too senile. They were too egotistical

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:02.840
<v Speaker 13>to think that he could win against President Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam, You're absolutely right. We're gonna have to leave it there.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I always like to say, the view is

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 2>for losers. The US Report is for winners. So thank

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 2>you for coming on the US Report that has always

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 2>now don't go anywhere. And if you didn't get enough

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Kamala there after the break, you're gonna love what I've

0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:23.319
<v Speaker 2>got for Only in America. But first, Ilhano mar the

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Smali American congressman from Minnesota. Well, check out what happened

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 2>when Donald Trump was asked about her in the Oval

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Office just a few hours ago.

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 3>I think you know, I met the head of Somalia.

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<v Speaker 8>Did you know that? And I suggested that maybe he'd

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:42.360
<v Speaker 8>like to take her back. He said, I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. This is the most fun administration in history.

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<v Speaker 2>Now stick around for some more fun because Only in

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<v Speaker 2>America is next. Welcome back to the program, and now

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<v Speaker 2>it's time for a little segment we like to call

0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Only in America. Hey, we've had a bit of fun

0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 2>with Kamala's new book tonight, but check this out radio show.

0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Kyle and Company decided to have their own fun with

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 2>the audio version the audiobook of Kamala's bedoiirs by slowing

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 2>it down.

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:24.879
<v Speaker 13>I've been going through the Kamala Harris audiobook last night.

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<v Speaker 1>The Way to Do It as Torture says. That is

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 1>my evil brain decided maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>If we slow it down.

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 1>She sounds strong.

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<v Speaker 4>If you want me to give you a little sam

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<v Speaker 4>In the.

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<v Speaker 14>Summer of twenty one, during her final trip to.

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<v Speaker 7>Shifton as German Chancellor, it'll be a point where.

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<v Speaker 8>I hosted other that will not be back for the rest.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they were serving mimosas, to.

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<v Speaker 1>Say the least.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, that's all the time we've got for this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Go enjoy a mimosa, or, better yet, a steak sandwich

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<v Speaker 2>and bloodyberry in a steak sandwich. Until next time, Bye bye,