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Speaker 1: Approache Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Real Crime. I'm Adam Shand. Each week I'll

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Speaker 2: be taking you behind the scenes of the people and

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Speaker 2: the places that have made my thirty year career into crime.

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Speaker 2: Adam Shand has investigated bicky gangs as a journalist for years.

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Speaker 3: Aimed more on this, I'm joined by investigative reporter Adam Shand,

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Speaker 3: who's written a book on the Gangland killings.

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Speaker 2: You'll be hearing the stories of the cops, the robbers.

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Speaker 2: You're doing a lot of business back in those days.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I was.

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 3: We started moving a lot of marijuana and heroin when

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Speaker 3: I was about thirteen fourteen years old, very young. I

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Speaker 3: didn't even know really what it was.

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Speaker 2: Murderers, forensic pathologists, the police, the victims.

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Speaker 4: Recently, I've learned that actually, I think it's more to it.

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Speaker 4: There's more to it than that. I think there was

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Speaker 4: an active cover up, a deliberate cover up by the police,

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Speaker 4: and more evidence to support that is coming out.

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Speaker 2: All the rich tapestry of characters that I've been dealing

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Speaker 2: with over three decades.

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Speaker 1: And people often say, well, how can you cope with this?

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Speaker 1: I actually think that coping with death and the context

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Speaker 1: of my work is are pretty easier than some of

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Speaker 1: the work that you do as a clinician.

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Speaker 2: Real Crime with me Adam Shann coming to your favorite

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Speaker 2: podcast platform on Monday, June second to.

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Speaker 3: Tell you the truth My dream when I was a

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Speaker 3: kid to die fighting. If I died fighting beside my brothers,

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Speaker 3: that would have been the best day of my life.

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