1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Approache Production. 2 00:00:11,121 --> 00:00:15,121 Speaker 2: Welcome to Real Crime. I'm Adam Shand. Each week I'll 3 00:00:15,121 --> 00:00:17,681 Speaker 2: be taking you behind the scenes of the people and 4 00:00:17,761 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: the places that have made my thirty year career into crime. 5 00:00:21,321 --> 00:00:25,001 Speaker 3: Adam Shand has investigated bicky gangs as a journalist for years. 6 00:00:25,081 --> 00:00:28,241 Speaker 3: Aimed more on this, I'm joined by investigative reporter Adam Shand, 7 00:00:28,281 --> 00:00:30,441 Speaker 3: who's written a book on the Gangland killings. 8 00:00:30,961 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: You'll be hearing the stories of the cops, the robbers. 9 00:00:33,681 --> 00:00:36,441 Speaker 2: You're doing a lot of business back in those days. 10 00:00:36,481 --> 00:00:37,681 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I was. 11 00:00:38,161 --> 00:00:38,481 Speaker 3: I was. 12 00:00:39,161 --> 00:00:43,081 Speaker 4: We started moving a lot of marijuana and heroin when 13 00:00:43,081 --> 00:00:45,681 Speaker 4: I was about thirteen fourteen years old, very young. I 14 00:00:45,721 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 4: didn't even know really what it was. 15 00:00:48,281 --> 00:00:51,641 Speaker 2: Murderers, forensic pathologists, the police, the victims. 16 00:00:51,961 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 5: Recently, I've learned that actually, I think it's more to it. 17 00:00:56,561 --> 00:00:57,801 Speaker 5: There's more to it than that. 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,081 Speaker 6: I think there was an active cover up, a deliberate 19 00:01:01,161 --> 00:01:04,961 Speaker 6: cover up by the police, and more evidence to support 20 00:01:05,241 --> 00:01:06,481 Speaker 6: that is coming out. 21 00:01:06,681 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: All the rich tapestry of characters that I've been dealing 22 00:01:09,481 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: with over three decades. 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: And people often say, well, how can you cope with this? 24 00:01:14,161 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: I actually think that coping with death in the context 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,081 Speaker 1: of my work is are a pretty easier than some 26 00:01:18,161 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: of the work that you do as a clinician. 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: Real Crime with me Adam Shann coming to your favorite 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 2: podcast platform on Monday, June second, to. 29 00:01:27,521 --> 00:01:30,521 Speaker 4: Tell you the truth My dream when I was a 30 00:01:30,601 --> 00:01:35,721 Speaker 4: kid to die fighting. If I died fighting beside my brothers, 31 00:01:36,121 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 4: that would have been the best day of my life.