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Speaker 1: Apologie Production. I need your advice. Are you okay? What happened?

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Speaker 1: Promise it won't be too much. Bring it in.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to our Bestie segment.

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Speaker 1: This is the place for you. Hello, everybody, Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to our Bestie Advice segment. If you didn't listen to

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Speaker 1: yesterday's episode, please go and listen to it and don't forget.

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Speaker 1: We're in your ears four times a week Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and Friday. But today is when we listen to or

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Speaker 1: we read out an anonymous submission of someone wanting some

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Speaker 1: best advice. So maybe you have someone in your life

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Speaker 1: that you're struggling with, or you don't have anyone to

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Speaker 1: go to, or you're just wanting an unbiased opinion. This

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Speaker 1: is the place to bring in. And this is the

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Speaker 1: exact advice that I would give Tiana or Tiana would

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Speaker 1: give me if we were coming to each other with

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Speaker 1: this problem. Absolutely. All righty, what have we got today?

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go? Shall we a bit of a backstory.

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Speaker 2: I had a very traumatic breakup and past relationship that

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Speaker 2: eats away at me still six years later. The relationship

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Speaker 2: was awful, but this person still holds something over me

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Speaker 2: and a part of me that will always be with them.

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Speaker 2: A few years ago, my new partner and I went

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Speaker 2: away to Bali.

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Speaker 1: I've always been a.

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Speaker 2: Very spiritually curious person and was so excited to book

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Speaker 2: into Bali as I heard it was a very spiritual place.

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Speaker 2: I have never tried reiki before and wasn't one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent sure, but I was sold on it. As with

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Speaker 2: everything spiritual, I was so excited to give it a shot.

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Speaker 2: The night before my appointment, my partner and I had sex,

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Speaker 2: and for some reason I could not get my ex

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Speaker 2: out of my head while we were at it. I

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Speaker 2: felt so guilty. Afterwards, my reiki session was amazing, and

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Speaker 2: the heeler pinpointed so many things that I was working

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Speaker 2: through that I nearly vomited were At the end of

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Speaker 2: the session, he told me that he knew that I

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Speaker 2: had been thinking about my ex while having sex with

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Speaker 2: my current partner and that I needed to be more

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Speaker 2: present when sleeping with him. I thought I was going

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Speaker 2: to the grave with that thought and was so taken

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Speaker 2: back that he knew. I think about that all the

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Speaker 2: time and will definitely be returning to this healer. He's

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Speaker 2: definitely the real deal. What do you guys think I

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Speaker 2: should do.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I believe that healer knew he's almost

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Speaker 1: like psychic as well. Yeah, wow, that's really that's invasive.

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Speaker 1: I was hoping that the reiki healer would clear the

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Speaker 1: stuff from her ex to like clear energetically and unplug

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Speaker 1: help you unplug from him. But six years later, there's

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Speaker 1: still a plug in there. I'm wondering what that is, Like,

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Speaker 1: was there stuff left unsaid undone? Did he break up

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Speaker 1: with you and you didn't feel like you were finished?

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Speaker 1: Have you spoken to anyone else about this to try

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Speaker 1: and clear it. I've done some breath work to try

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Speaker 1: and like move it through, But is there something there,

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Speaker 1: like did you feel like that relationship wasn't done? I

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Speaker 2: I have had experiences where I've had moments like this

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Speaker 2: where I have been almost like stuck in limerens about somebody.

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Speaker 2: And Limbrens is when you basically are like it's almost

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Speaker 2: like a fixation on somebody. And so for me in

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Speaker 2: the past when this has happened, like I was wildly

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Speaker 2: in love with somebody for like seven years, and what

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Speaker 2: I noticed throughout that journey was that I was stuck

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Speaker 2: on the idea of them, on the idea of them.

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Speaker 2: the side of me that came out when I was

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Speaker 2: so stuck on it because I held on to hope.

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Speaker 2: It was like, even though I knew things were done

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Speaker 1: The loop entirely. And how do you do that well?

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Speaker 2: Processing the hurt? Yeah, so like breath work and yeah, crying, crying,

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Speaker 2: letting it out, processing all of the thoughts and feelings,

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Speaker 2: letting the anger out if you're angry, letting the hurt out, letting.

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Speaker 1: The love out, like all of it.

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Speaker 2: Like you've got to be willing to feel all of

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Speaker 2: protect yourself in that sense. It's almost like reparenting yourself

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Speaker 2: of like, this is not good for me, it didn't

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Speaker 1: Question though, if I put myself in her shoes and

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Speaker 1: Steve was feeling like this about an ex partner, like,

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Speaker 1: I would just want to know. I want to know

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Speaker 1: Of course, I want him to be open and be like,

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Speaker 1: I just want that transparency of like what's going on

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Speaker 1: and give him what he deserves, give the relationship what

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Speaker 1: it deserves when your head's elsewhere, So like, would you

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Speaker 2: Like, oh see, that's a hard one because what you

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Speaker 1: Is so true. It's like this feels a bit of betrayal. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: This is now this listener, This submissioner's responsibility is to go, okay, like,

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Speaker 2: am I still wildly in love with this person? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that I cannot give this new person something, because if

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Speaker 2: that's the case, then that's a whole lot of conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's unfair.

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Speaker 2: As the receiving partner, it's like, wow, this person is

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Speaker 1: Feels like betrayal.

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Speaker 2: So I'm thinking, yeah, it depends like where this woman

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, do you still have feelings for your ex?

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Speaker 2: What she said is like, it's a very traumatic breakup

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Speaker 1: There, there's something there that there's.

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Speaker 1: To go back. So that's what we would probably recommend doing.

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Speaker 1: Then it's like I would do. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: breath keeps getting through to me because trauma is stored energy,

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Speaker 1: and being able to sematically move that through breath, I

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Speaker 1: Maybe if there is still feelings there, I think it

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Speaker 1: might be a conversation you have yourself first, but then

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Speaker 1: Just transparency such a high value of mine. If things aren't,

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Speaker 1: if you're not talking about everything, there's an invisible energetic

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Speaker 1: of something else. But yeah, there's definitely some work to

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Speaker 2: I love that you mentioned breath work because I remember

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Speaker 2: when I went through a really serious breakup last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I came to one of your events and you held

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Speaker 2: and loved. And that was really really hard healing.

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Speaker 1: Then you really healing yet another breathwork. We went to

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Speaker 1: see this for what it is. I can. Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: like another unplug. Yeah it was. It's been a couple

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Speaker 1: I forgot about that.

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Speaker 2: Everything that happened in that relationship made sense. I can

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Speaker 1: And there's been a couple of unplugs throughout that time,

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Speaker 2: And you know what, it's a process as well. Like

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Speaker 2: when you go through a breakup, you're grieving someone that's

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Speaker 2: not dead, Like you literally grieve being with that person,

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Speaker 2: spending time with them, the vision that you created.

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Speaker 1: In your life you thought you were to have with them.

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Speaker 2: And when there's pain there too, everything is so much

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Speaker 2: more heightened. So you're dealing with grief, you're dealing with

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Speaker 2: a sense of addiction to that person, and you're dealing

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Speaker 2: there's so many layers to it. So just be kind

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Speaker 2: to yourself on the journey of letting go, but then

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Speaker 2: also making sure that you're honoring your current partner as well,

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Speaker 2: because it's not just you that's involved.

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Speaker 1: It's so I wonder if there's anything I don't know

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Speaker 1: if this is off topic, but anything in your current

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Speaker 1: relationship that you're comparing or you feel like it's missing

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Speaker 1: that you got from the other one. Yeah, that you

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Speaker 1: could bring forward and say, hey, like this is really

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Speaker 1: and that maybe you're trying to get that from the

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Speaker 1: X because you used to enjoy that or want that,

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Speaker 1: desiring it, but you haven't fully acknowledged.

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Speaker 2: That, haven't acknowledged that it's important thing. Yeah, wanting more

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Speaker 2: of that now?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, So that could be a cool conversation to

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Speaker 1: have with yourself and then your current partner two. I

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Speaker 1: like that, hmm. Very cool with love and update. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely a tough one. It is really tough, super tough,

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Speaker 1: and every breakup and every don'tatpic and situation is just

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Speaker 1: so different.

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Speaker 2: But you know, something that we say to each other

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Speaker 2: all the time is that you can feel something and

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Speaker 2: not have to act on it. And I think sometimes

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Speaker 2: that is almost permission alone to know that whatever it

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Speaker 1: It's okay that it's there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to act on it. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: necessarily mean that you want to go back, No, it's

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Speaker 2: just true. You can be heartbroken, and you can have pain,

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Speaker 2: and you can have still have moments where maybe you're

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Speaker 2: moments where it pops up randomly. It doesn't mean anything, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't have to mean anything if you don't

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Speaker 2: attach meaning to it exactly. Give yourself permission to feel

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Speaker 2: it as it comes, let it go and be willing

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Speaker 2: to do that work not only for you but for

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Speaker 2: your current partner. Then spend and choose to spend time

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Speaker 2: with That's beautiful advice.

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Speaker 1: Oh we hope this helps, and as always we love updates.

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Speaker 1: If you guys must slide into our DMS or send

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Speaker 1: another anonymous sumission, we would love to hear where you

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Speaker 1: are and what you're doing with it. But we're definitely

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Speaker 1: looking for some breathwork. Yeah maybe the first at what

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Speaker 1: take love it? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: All right, ladies, we'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye