1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: On Scorne US Australia. This is the Wader Panalty Show. 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panety Show. Coming 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: up tonight Victorian Labor MP's attempt to discredit the author 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 2: of a report detailing systematic raughting and criminality on big 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: bill projects across the state. The panel will be here 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: to discuss that. Shortly, the Great Douglas Murray joins me 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: before the first ad break and we discuss everything from 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: celebrity virtue signaling to the UK following Australia in implementing 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: social media bands for under sixteens. Mihrowitz will have the 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: latest from the US, including Stephen Colbert being called out 11 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: for misinformation, and later in the hour, Kinsey Schofield would 12 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: join me with the latest royal and celebrity news and 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: we never forget Lefties losing it tonight featuring transactivist still 14 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: In Mulvainy who has a new role on Broadway. 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: In fact, Helby Marlow tanned. 16 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: But First Victorian Premier Justenter Alan threatened to end a 17 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: press conference early as she was grilled by reporters on 18 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 2: the CFMEU corruption scandal. 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 4: Several Victorian MPs. 20 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: Have urged the premiere to call a Royal commission into 21 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: alleged criminality and corruption on. 22 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 4: The state's big bill projects. 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: It follows the latest allegations of systematic routing at work sides, 24 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: with a review estimating the MEU's actions have cost taxpayers 25 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: upwards of fifteen billion dollars. Have a listen as just 26 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: Ina Alan is grilled by a reporter overclaims people unreporting 27 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: incidents amid fears of retribution. 28 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 5: The same to Jeffrey Watsons, they don't feel they can 29 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 5: report it because they have already uprooted their lives for 30 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 5: fear of people that are no longer in the cfenergy. 31 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 5: They are consoling the CFMU. 32 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 6: If you look to I'll make two points on this, 33 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 6: and can I ask that you retract that last point? No, no, no, 34 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 6: you're not. Could I ask that you retract that last comment. 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 6: This is an incredibly serious matter that I'm working incredibly 36 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 6: hard on. I'd for this press conference to continue us 37 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 6: that you retract that last observation. 38 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 4: Let's bring in the panels. 39 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: Sky News contributors Proue McSween and Caroline do Rosso prue 40 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: this is as grim as it gets. We are talking 41 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: about precedented levels of corruption all of the taxpayers expense. 42 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: If this report is accurate, we're talking anywhere between fifteen 43 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: and thirty billion dollars some estimates of taxpayer funds being squandered, 44 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: being defrauded. 45 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 7: And she's acting like a cornered rat. You know, she 46 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 7: can run, but you can't hide from this. I think 47 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 7: this will be her come to Jesus moment where she's 48 00:02:53,480 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 7: going to have to accept that through inept conduct, she 49 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 7: has purposefully as the Infrastructure Minister overlooked or whatever we 50 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 7: can call it. We don't know yet the actions of 51 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 7: these thugs, and we just need to know what's going on. 52 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 7: We know that there's billions of dollars that have been lost, 53 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 7: We know that she's been she's sort of literally in 54 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 7: bed with the CFMU because we know her husband was 55 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 7: a member of it. But this whole labor brand stinks 56 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 7: now we know, and it's going to affect a federal 57 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 7: labor as well, because the point is that they are 58 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 7: irretrievably linked to the unions, They rely on them for money, 59 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 7: and frankly, this is going to be a real national 60 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 7: issue as well. I just don't see it labor escaping 61 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 7: from it. 62 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: Myself, Caroline, we now have the shameful situation where members 63 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: of the disintal government, including the Police Minister, the Attorney General, 64 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: are shooting the messenger trying to smear the report writer 65 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: here rather than address the substance of this comprehensive one 66 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty six page report that has been written 67 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: by Jeffrey Watson sc Do you think that strategy is 68 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: going to be successful by just mudding the waters and 69 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 2: trying to cast this corruption fighter as some sort of 70 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: attention seeker. 71 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 5: No, it's not going to work. And I think the 72 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 5: point that Proo made about just Into being the cornered rat, well, 73 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 5: actually it's the whole government, because they're all accountable for this. 74 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 5: This is a whole government. There's a cabinet, there's obviously 75 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 5: those close confidence of just Into Allen. They are all 76 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 5: they are all equally responsible. So this here is just 77 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 5: an exercise in flinging around as much proverbial as possible 78 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 5: and hoping some of it will stick. The simple fact 79 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 5: of the matter is this is not the first Union related, 80 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 5: you know, alleged corruption issue in Victoria. So I think 81 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 5: for the public it's kind of like, well, here's just 82 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 5: the next edition in the saga that we have been seeing, 83 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 5: you know, for some time, so they can try that, 84 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 5: but I think obviously ultimately the public will see this 85 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 5: as obfuscation. And the other point that pre made, which 86 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 5: I thought was important, was about the impact it has 87 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 5: for federal labor, but also the opportunity it gives to 88 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 5: the federal coalition. And we see Tim Wilson, who's already 89 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 5: speaking about in this huge amount of funds that have 90 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 5: gone from taxpayers, both state and federal taxpayers to essentially 91 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 5: paper over these massive budget black holes in Victoria. And 92 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 5: I think, you know, maybe if Victorians, you know, are 93 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 5: in denial about the answer, I'm sure that taxpayers elsewhere 94 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 5: around the country would really like to know where their 95 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 5: hard end is going. 96 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: Well, Victoria has the biggest state debt in the country 97 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: and we can see why because it's the level of 98 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: ineptitude is unrivaled. 99 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: Now, let's stay in Victoria. 100 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: The We've lost the Australian Motorcycle Grand Prix after almost 101 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: three decades at Phillip Island. 102 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 4: This follows the Allen. 103 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: Government's refusal to move it to albert Park. South Australian 104 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: Premiere Peter Malanascus has announced it will be held in 105 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: Adelaide from twenty twenty seven. Prou This event was enormous 106 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: for the Basque coast. The attracted ninety three thousand fans 107 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: last year. It pumps more than fifty million into the 108 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: economy every year and it's gone. It's going to be 109 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: in South Australia from next year. 110 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 7: Yes, well, it's all part of the decay of Victoria, 111 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 7: isn't it interesting though? I was looking at the annual 112 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 7: report last year and it said that it actually cost 113 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 7: the government seven hundred million dollars in subsidy. So you know, 114 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 7: we know that this government down there and labor generally 115 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 7: don't know how to add up. So maybe in fact 116 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 7: that is true. We don't know really what it is subsidizing. 117 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 8: But no, it's always had. 118 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: Victoria's had that reputation. 119 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 7: Of being the sports capital and they normally do their 120 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 7: sports events well. So it's a big loss for them 121 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 7: and a loss of ego, I suppose. 122 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 4: Oh, enormously. 123 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: I mean, we pride ourselves on being the sports capital 124 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: of the country and this is certainly a blow to that. 125 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: Now to this astonishing story talking about tax pay funds 126 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: being squandered, and this is more sinisen than that this 127 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: is a single mother from Western Sydney. She's now won 128 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: her legal fight against EAT Safety Commissioner Julie Inmanngrant over 129 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: a bid to block a post criticizing the existence of a. 130 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 4: Queer club in a Melbourne primary school. Primary school. 131 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: The mother, who herself is bisexual, had hosted a fifty 132 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: three second video to x in May twenty twenty four 133 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: that was critical of a primary school's decision to host 134 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: a queer club for its students. Eight days later, the 135 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: platform received a removal notice from the E Safety Commissioner's office. 136 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 4: Caroline. 137 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: Now, this mum appealed the takedown order. Good on her 138 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: for doing that most people wouldn't bother. She won in 139 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: the Administrative Appeals Tribunal, but then, using our taxpayer funds, 140 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: Julian mcgrant appealed the tribunal's decision in the Federal Court, 141 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: which yesterday dismissed her appeal, hopefully marking the end of 142 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: this two year battle. I just cannot believe one the 143 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: takedown order in the first place, but after this single 144 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: mum challenged it and won to then appeal it to 145 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 2: the Federal court. What is happening in the office of 146 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: the E Safety Commissioner. 147 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 5: I find this absolutely repulsive, absolutely repulsive, and you're totally 148 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 5: right about the initial takedown order. This lady had an 149 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 5: opinion about something that was happening at her children's school, 150 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 5: so that there is a perfectly valid criticism for her 151 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 5: to have. You know, we still do have free speech 152 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 5: in this country. Even if that's free speech is you know, 153 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 5: not convenient for the E Safety Commissioner. But tutos to 154 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 5: this lady for standing up for herself and pushing back 155 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 5: because too many people just cop it in the neck. 156 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 5: And I'm very, very glad to see this because this 157 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 5: is not the first time that the E Safety Commissioner 158 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 5: has been taken out for essentially exceeding the exceeding the 159 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 5: remit of what is her job to do. The other 160 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 5: thing and obviously I was a litigation lawyer for a 161 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 5: long time. You know, when you're talking about the government, 162 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 5: the government has to behave as a model litigate. It 163 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 5: is their job to behave to a standard that is 164 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 5: greater than what is expected from the ordinary person. And 165 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 5: the fact that this was appealed into the federal court 166 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 5: is to me, it is just a disgrace. That is 167 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 5: our money paying for that if it has gone to 168 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 5: the federal court, and I'm not sure if there has 169 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 5: been a costs order awarded yet there may be costs 170 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 5: now that the taxpayer will also have to bear paying 171 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 5: for this mother's cost, as frankly it should do, but 172 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 5: it shouldn't have had to have. It shouldn't had to 173 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 5: have done because this appeal shouldn't have got this far. 174 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 5: So we have got governments getting involved or bureaucrats getting 175 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 5: involved in all areas of our lives that are frankly 176 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 5: in none of their business. And I hope at some 177 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 5: point Julie Immigrant stops leading with her chin true. 178 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: I have written in the past, and sadly I'm probably 179 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: going to have to write again in the future that 180 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: the EASE Safety Commission is a leftist activist and she 181 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: has behaved as such in that role, and that is 182 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: just not good enough. This was a Liberal Party appointment, 183 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: another mistake, and. 184 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 4: She has misused that. 185 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: Office, in my opinion, repeatedly. This is just one example. 186 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: There are plenty of others we've covered over the years. 187 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: Is this something that the coalition should start talking about, 188 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 2: because we've seen them be on a unity ticket when 189 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: it comes to the Safety Commissioner, whether it's bans on 190 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: under sixteen's or other measures she's sought to implement. They've 191 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: been a little bit too frightened to actually take a 192 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: stand for free speech, free expression, particularly when it comes 193 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: to social media. 194 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 7: Well, you know, clearly she is responsible for overreach in 195 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 7: so many areas. But you can bet your botton dollar 196 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 7: that the Liberal Party had done focus groups and a 197 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 7: lot of parents were talking about their concerns about their access, 198 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 7: their kids' access to pawn and various other things on 199 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 7: social media. This is probably why the Liberals have installed 200 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 7: this had installed this woman, And now of course she's 201 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 7: concerning herself and wasting taxpayer money on things like this 202 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 7: when the money should be spent on what is being 203 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 7: taught in our schools. When you think about what the 204 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 7: issue is here with this mother and why she took 205 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 7: it on, is that there is an indoctrination in our 206 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 7: schools that is so concerning a grooming of our children, 207 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 7: and I just think the focus now needs to be 208 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 7: more on that than anything else. 209 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: Prue McSween, Caroline de Rosso, thank you so much for 210 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: your time tonight. Joining me now is the author of 211 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 2: International bestsellers, including his latest work on Democracies and Death Coults. 212 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 4: Douglas Murray, welcome back to the program. 213 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: Let's start with French President Emmanuel mccron, with an approval 214 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: rating of sixteen percent. He has blasted social media platforms, 215 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: claimbing their free speech arguments are rubbish. He said he 216 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: wanted totally transparent algorithms and that free speech is bs 217 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: if nobody knows how you are guided through it. 218 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 9: Because I mean, free speech is a pure bullet. If 219 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 9: nobody knows how you are guide that schools is so 220 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 9: called free speech, especially when it's to be guided from 221 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 9: one hated speech another weted speech. I just want to 222 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 9: have a transparent road schools these different speeches, and I 223 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 9: won't buy the way to other sort of public order. 224 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 9: I want to avoid the recist speech, hated speech. 225 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: It seems Douglas that Emmanuel Macron says free speech as 226 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: a threat to public order. 227 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 10: Yes, well, I have to say, for once I agree 228 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 10: with President Macron. He's right that we do need some 229 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 10: kind of idea of what the algorithms are doing on 230 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 10: certain platforms. The idea that they're particularly disfavoring him is 231 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 10: doubtless the reason why he's decided to raise this. Now, 232 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 10: nobody seems to mind when the algorithms are screwed, as 233 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 10: long as they're screwed in their own direction. And unfortunately, 234 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 10: what tends to happen is that when a political leader 235 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 10: feels some kind of heat, feels that the news is. 236 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: Going in a direction they don't want it to go. 237 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 10: It's become incredibly easy to blame social media platforms and 238 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 10: disinformation and much more. I'm all for transparency, and I'm 239 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 10: all for the platforms actually being able to reveal to 240 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 10: us effectually, you know, when we're having things held from us, 241 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 10: when we're having things pushed our way we haven't necessarily 242 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 10: asked for. But I don't think people should call for 243 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 10: it just because they're feeling some political heat on their 244 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 10: own side. And I think that's exactly what President MACRONI 245 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 10: is doing. 246 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: Now let's go to the UK, where this call on 247 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: the Jeremy Weinshow has gone viral. Listen to the reaction 248 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: of the host when the caller mentions being stabbed twice 249 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: in London? 250 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 11: Are you really saying you'd be less of a risk 251 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 11: there than you would be in Tower Hamlet's on what basis, well. 252 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 9: I've been stabbed twice in London's advice to see, that's. 253 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: A big city. Sadly that happens sometimes there you. 254 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: Go, Douglas, it's a big city. Sometimes that happens. Not 255 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: much sympathy there from the host. 256 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 10: No, I mean, nobody does get much sympathy in modern 257 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 10: Britain if they've suffered a crime like a stabbing, because 258 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 10: it doesn't really fit the narrative. It's in the same 259 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 10: way that people have been saying, of course for years 260 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 10: with terrorist attacks, we mustn't really focus on the victims 261 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 10: and we've got to just sort of push forward. As 262 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 10: Sadik Khan might say, these are all just things you've 263 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 10: got to put up with in the modern, wonderful, diverse 264 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 10: and multicultural, pluralistic city. 265 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that is the case. 266 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 10: And I think it's remarkable that we see in a 267 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 10: moment like that, not just a victim of crime mentioning it, 268 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 10: but this profound lack of sympathy in the commentating class. 269 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 10: And when people wonder, well, why is that, it's simply 270 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 10: because such things reveal very uncomfortable truths, and the unveil 271 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 10: the kind of uncomfortable truths that really any journalists should 272 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 10: want to look at. 273 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the job of the media. 274 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 10: Class is not simply to sort of stroke everyone's presumptions 275 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 10: and make them all feel good. It's actually meant to 276 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 10: be to look at problems like that, tease them out 277 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 10: in the open, and try to address how to solve them. 278 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: But that's about the last thing. 279 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 10: That much of the commentating class in the UK, as 280 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 10: in many other countries, actually wants to do. 281 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: Now, Douglas, I've been keen to get your take on 282 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: the scandal that in golf Manchester United co owner Sir 283 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 2: Jim Ratcliffe after he said this Ford you. 284 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 12: Can't have an economy with nine million people on benefits 285 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 12: and huge levels of immigrants coming in. I mean that 286 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 12: the UK has been colonized. It's costing too much money. 287 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 12: It will cause, it will cause the UK has been 288 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 12: colonized by immigrants, really. 289 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: Isn't it, Douglas. Jim has since apologized. He said if 290 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 2: his language offended some people, he was sorry. What do 291 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: you make of the comments? And was an apology necessary? 292 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 13: Well? 293 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 10: This is a classic again, a classic thing of modern 294 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 10: Britain and much of the modern West. What he said 295 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 10: is his own opinion very many people will agree with him. 296 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 10: Some people might disagree with some of the wording, but 297 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 10: much of the facts of what he said is just indisputable. 298 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 10: But no, we never do get to that. We never 299 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 10: do get to the facts or the actual discussion. What 300 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 10: we've had instead for the last week has been the 301 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 10: great modern British pastime of shooting the messenger. 302 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: That everybody up to and including. 303 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 10: The Prime Minister of the UK has decided to talk 304 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 10: about this, to decide to condemn his remarks. We've had 305 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 10: our brilliant Foreign Secretary as well as Prime Minister across 306 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 10: the airwaves saying nobody should have used these words. 307 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: Do they have nothing better to do? 308 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 10: Is their job really to be like anyone else on 309 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 10: x just showing their own political stance and trying to 310 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 10: silence somebody else's speech. It's absolutely typical. Do you get 311 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 10: into this shoot the messenger mode? And if anyone doubts that, 312 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 10: by the way, since making those comments so, Jim has received, 313 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 10: among other things, an unbelievable pasting across the British media, 314 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 10: the commentating class and much more, accusing him of tax 315 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 10: dodging and much more. He has contributed by the accounts 316 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 10: I've seen hundreds of millions of pounds in taxes to 317 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 10: the UK, sometimes more than one hundred million I think 318 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 10: in one year. That is an enormous amount that the 319 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 10: exchequer has gained from him. But of course people don't 320 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 10: want to go to the question that he has raised 321 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 10: among others, which is people who don't. 322 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: Pay their way in society. 323 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 10: Instead, they've tried to decide that he is particularly guilty 324 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 10: of not paying his way in society. As I say, 325 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 10: it's not just shooting the messenger in cases like this, 326 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 10: it's shooting in and then then jumping up and down 327 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 10: on his body. I mean, it's absolutely obscene and I 328 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 10: wish that at some point modern Britain has grown up 329 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 10: enough to actually have the sort of debate which he 330 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 10: raised and get down to the issues that he's raised 331 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 10: instead of this stupid prancing around the language policing, which 332 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 10: is all we ever hear Douglas. 333 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: Given that the attacks have continued, and in fact one 334 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: could argue that bullies have been emboldened by the apology. 335 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: Was the apology a mistake? Should he have stuck to 336 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: his guns? 337 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 10: No, absolutely, he shouldn't have apologized, But I mean I 338 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 10: can see why he did, because the howling, screaming mob 339 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 10: that comes down on somebody when they say something this. 340 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 10: I mean, one of the things in the last week 341 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 10: has been that his club has, you know, foreign players, 342 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 10: and people are trying to pretend that his comments would 343 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 10: effectively keep foreign players out of his football club. Well, 344 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 10: the players in his football club highly paid, very unusual 345 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 10: types of migrant, aren't they. They're people who have paid, 346 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 10: for instance, three hundred pounds a week. 347 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: Now. 348 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 10: I don't think anyone in Britain has a problem with 349 00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 10: very highly skilled, high performing athletes of football coming to 350 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 10: the UK. That's not what his comments referred to. They 351 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 10: refer to the people who come to a country take 352 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 10: advantage of welfare benefits, don't pay in and only take out. Well, 353 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 10: is that not something worth mentioning? Is a taxpayer who 354 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 10: pays more than their share in taxes? Are very large 355 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 10: share in taxes? Are they not allowed to have a 356 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 10: view about any of this? Is everyone just meant to 357 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 10: roll over and apologize endlessly? No, I wish he hadn't 358 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 10: given in. I understand why he did. But as ever, yes, 359 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 10: as you say, Reta, the bullies are simply emboldened and 360 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 10: unfortunately means that fewer people as ever will actually come 361 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 10: out and say what they think at a time when 362 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 10: more people need to come out and say what they 363 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 10: think about things that are incredibly unjust and unfair to 364 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 10: the majority of the public. 365 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: Staying in the UK, where the Kiostama government plans to 366 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: follow in Australia's footsteps and implement a ban on under 367 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: sixteens accessing social media, how do you. 368 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 4: See this policy, Douglas. There's a lot of well. 369 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 2: Meaning people who support it because they think social media 370 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: does great harm to young people, but I can see 371 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: it having all sorts of unintended consequences as well. 372 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: It sure does. 373 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 10: I mean, I don't trust the British government of this 374 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 10: day is to do almost anything well, let alone policing 375 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 10: the Internet. I think there are several issues here, I 376 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 10: mean clearly, and the work of Jon Van Height and 377 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 10: others has shown this clearly. The use of social media 378 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 10: has some very negative effects on people when they're in 379 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 10: their teens, particularly when they're in the age of sort 380 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 10: of thirteen plus and starting to think about their image. 381 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: And there's just. 382 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 10: Terrible effects, particularly on young girls. And the data all 383 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 10: proves that whether or not that should mean that there 384 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 10: should be some in a social media ban, or whether 385 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 10: it means which is what I would prefer that schools 386 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 10: and parents and others are better at making sure that 387 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 10: kids aren't on their phones endlessly. I'd rather prefer the latter, 388 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 10: it has to be said. But yes, the unintended consequences 389 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 10: of all of this sort of thing are almost limitless 390 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 10: in their number. 391 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: And as I say, I mean. 392 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 10: Who in the British government would you trust to do 393 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 10: such a thing anything but ineptly. This is a government 394 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 10: that can't even do a do a deal to give 395 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 10: away islands Mauritius without being incredibly inept about it and 396 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 10: ending up paying through the nose for it. So no, 397 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 10: I don't trust them to manage to get on top 398 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 10: of social media anymore than I managed to expect them 399 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 10: to manage to get on top of anything else. 400 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: Before you go, Douglas, I loved your piece in the 401 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: New York Post this week on the uprisings we are 402 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 2: seeing in certain blue cities in America. You were at 403 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: the radical lefteris who are objecting to any and all 404 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: ICE operations are blurring a most important line between. 405 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 4: Legal and illegal. 406 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: Can you just explain what you mean by that and 407 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 2: about this hill the Democrats have chosen to die on, 408 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: which is protecting illegal immigrants at all costs. 409 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 10: Well, it's quite amazing actually when you think about it, 410 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 10: because it's not just ended up with protecting illegal immigrants, 411 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 10: it's protecting illegal immigrants who've carried out crimes. I mean, 412 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 10: there have been ice officers who've been trying to detain 413 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 10: people who have committed rapes and other crimes since being 414 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 10: in the US illegally, and they find a whole load 415 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 10: of sort of liberal tends to be women strangely standing 416 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 10: in their way and trying to stop them carrying out 417 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 10: this act. 418 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: This is a. 419 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 10: Terrible strategic mistakeer part for everything else by the activists left. 420 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 10: Most people, including Democrats, actually do not want illegal foreign 421 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 10: criminals who've committed crimes in the US to be allowed 422 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 10: to remain in the US unbothered after breaking in and 423 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 10: then committing crimes. To make this a hill to die 424 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 10: on is a quite extraordinary thing. 425 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: And the thing that I. 426 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 10: Mentioned in that piece in the New York Post, which 427 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 10: I just have said for years about the migration issue 428 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 10: in all of our countries, is please can we remember 429 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 10: that the difference between legal and illegal immigration is the law. 430 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 10: And if you decide that the law is an unimportant concept, 431 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 10: or it's something you can throw away, or that somebody 432 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 10: who has come to the US completely legally and paid 433 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 10: lawyers and done all the endless paperwork is effectively to 434 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 10: be regarded in the same as somebody who walked across 435 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 10: the southern border in the Biden years and then started 436 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 10: committing crimes in the US. Sorry, but you haven't just 437 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 10: lost me, You'll have lost the majority of the American public. 438 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,239 Speaker 10: And when people on the left end up saying things like, 439 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 10: you know, how could Donald Trump have been elected with 440 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 10: a popular vote? Guys, this is how. It's because you 441 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 10: choose absolutely terrible hills to die on, and Donald Trump's 442 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 10: going to kill you at the polls each time. 443 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 2: And Douglas, we say that particularly from the celebrity class. 444 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 2: Just recently at the Grammys, the number of artists who 445 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: talked about immigrants, no differentiation between illegal and legal immigrants, 446 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 2: and that famous line of Billie Eilish, no human is 447 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: illegal on stolen land. That seems to be the mantra 448 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: of the modern leth of the moment. 449 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 10: Douglas, it's crazy, reta I mean, I think that these 450 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 10: actors and others who we see doing this performative thing, 451 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 10: I think they imagine that they're like Oscar Schindler in 452 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 10: Shindler's List or something, or you know, they're the sort 453 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 10: of heroic person hiding Jews in the attic in some 454 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 10: Second World War movie. I think they're totally divorced from reality. 455 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 10: We already knew that, of course, but I think they're 456 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 10: seeing themselves in this sort of unbelievably heroic light. 457 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: And sorry, but this isn't that situation. It just isn't 458 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: at all. 459 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 10: And unfortunately, the celebrities have decided that somehow, you know, 460 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 10: a foreign criminal is somehow like a Jew in the Holocaust, 461 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 10: although not all of them seem to like Jews all 462 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 10: that much anymore, but let's put that aside for a moment. 463 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 10: And the federal agents of Ice are the kind of 464 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 10: Nazi stormtroopers, and therefore that they the great Hollywood celebrity class, 465 00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 10: are the only things standing between barbarism and civilization. 466 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, but if civilization were. 467 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 10: Actually reduced to such a stage, among other things, we'd 468 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 10: be absolutely down and swanee if we had to rely 469 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 10: on Billie Eilish and co. 470 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: To be our only line of defense. 471 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 4: Douglas Murray, thank you for your time. 472 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: It's a pleasure as always. Reata thank you. 473 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 4: Still to come. 474 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: Left is Losing It, plus the latest from the US, 475 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 2: including Stephen Colbert being called out for misinformation. 476 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 4: Mi Horowitz is up next. 477 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: You're watching the Red of Pannehy Show, and it's time 478 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: for Lefties Losing It. 479 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: And here is Ice. 480 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: Age actor John Leguizamo railing against Ice, saying that if 481 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: you support a country's immigration laws being observed, then you 482 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: must hate immigrants and you can't eat their food. 483 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 14: If you don't like Latin people and you don't like 484 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 14: us speaking Spanish, and you don't like us being here, 485 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 14: then you can't eat our chocolate because we gave you that. 486 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 14: You can't eat our vanilla, Get off it. You can't 487 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 14: have our tomato sauces or ketchup because we brought the 488 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 14: world tomato and tomato sauces. You can't have anything spicy 489 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 14: or hot because we gave the world chilis. Get your 490 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 14: hands off of it. You can't eat corn or popcorn 491 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 14: because we gave you that. You can't eat our squashes, 492 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 14: no zucchini, nothing because that's ours, no beans. 493 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 5: We give the world all the beans. 494 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: That's right. 495 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: Now to another actor in comic Kumal nan Gianni, who 496 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: gets all teary assuming that people believing in migration laws, well, 497 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: that means that migrants are demonized. 498 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 9: I think the demonization of immigrants is so contrary to 499 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 9: what America tells itself it is. I mean, the idea 500 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 9: these people have come from all over the world. 501 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 14: Fight for a better life for themselves and their family, 502 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 14: and the fact that we're. 503 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 10: They were demonizing them, to me, it's really really heartbreaking. 504 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: South the only ones demonizing immigrants are the Democrats who 505 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: conflate illegal and legal migrants like laws mean nothing. Now, 506 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: this is a celebrity losing it that I did not 507 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: expect to say. I always saw Dave Chappelle as a 508 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: largely sane, old school left b but no, he has 509 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: succumbed to the woke mind virus. Here he is visiting 510 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 2: a memorial and paying his respects to Alex Pretty. 511 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 4: This is the dude. 512 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle is paying tribute to a man who repeatedly 513 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: clashed with law enforcement, who was violent and came to 514 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: these protests with a gun. An Extramo pick your heroes 515 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: a little more carefully. Democrats now too transactive is still 516 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 2: a mulvainy who has made his Broadway debut, stepping into 517 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: the role of Anne Bolin in the musical six, And 518 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: in typical Dylan style, he's playing the victim and finding 519 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: all sorts of similarities between himself and a Bolin. 520 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 3: I think some people might consider me to be a 521 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 3: slightly polarizing woman, sure, and I'm playing Anne Boleyn, who 522 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: famously was also quite polarizing. And I think there's something 523 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: really beautiful about getting to embody this woman who was 524 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 3: a little bit ahead of her time, and I think 525 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: a lot of bit misunderstood. 526 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: Well, there you go, Dylan mocking womanhood is just like 527 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: the Queen of England being beheaded for treason by Henry 528 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: the Eighth. Obviously we should be grateful to Dylan and 529 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: the production's writer are taking this historical figure seriously. 530 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 13: The six. 531 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 3: Is that Toby Marlowe is. 532 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 5: Tran It's twenty twenty six. 533 00:31:59,360 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 15: Name. 534 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: Let's bring in documentary filmmaker and political commentator Army Horowitz. Army, 535 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: I trust you've already purchased your tickets. 536 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 15: Oh, no question about it. I mean, look, I can't 537 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 15: get enough of botherwing general that. I think it's so awful. 538 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 15: The days totally track the bring in guilt and moment 539 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 15: of God. Just the whole thing's a joke, but it's funny. 540 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 15: I don't bring the remember the time when you were 541 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 15: so popular that he actually like a massive I don't 542 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 15: want to think what beer company it was, but brought 543 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 15: him in represents them died. 544 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 8: Things have weary change. Well the better, I would say. 545 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he almost destroyed bud Light. I mean they lost 546 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: something like a billion dollars. It was reported from the 547 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: backlash of that, and it's taking them a long time 548 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 2: to recover. Now, let's talk about more important matters. Earlier today, 549 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 2: a grandmother, Felicia Cook, gave a very memorable speech of 550 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: the White House to mark Black History Month. 551 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 4: This is something thought you thank. 552 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 11: God for this President. I am filled my cup brothers 553 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 11: over because he allowed his constituents, his people to come 554 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 11: to my house to interview me, to talk about the 555 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 11: murder of my grandson. It seemed like nobody cared wein 556 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 11: marshay Rally and nobody heard me. Democrats get mad at 557 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 11: me until this Republican seeing his constituency, his people out 558 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 11: there to interview me in my home. Have you ever 559 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 11: heard of a thing? Then they invited me twice before 560 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 11: Congress to testify for the beautiful bill that's gonna change 561 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 11: crime in the district. If you kill somebody, okay, you 562 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 11: take a life, you do life, just that simple. 563 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: Do a us crime, you do us time, just that simple. 564 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: And then we need National Guard, and which we did 565 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: years ago. 566 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 11: He brought it on. 567 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 4: I love him. 568 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 11: I don't want to hear none of you got to 569 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 11: say about their racist stuff. And don't be looking at 570 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 11: me on the news, hate knowing me because I'm standing 571 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 11: up for somebody that deserves that to stand up for. 572 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 12: Get off the. 573 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: Man's back, Let him do his job. He's doing the 574 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: right thing. 575 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 5: Pick up off of it. 576 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 4: And Grandma said it. I mean, I just love her. 577 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: I think the White House should hire her as a spokesperson. 578 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 4: Of some type. She is brilliant. 579 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: She articulated so much in so few words and in 580 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 2: such a powerful fashion. 581 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 15: And I think she represents more and more of the 582 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 15: black community. Fankl right, I think more. There's a maybe 583 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 15: even a silent Ma Jordy that thinks along the line 584 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 15: that she does. Good for her, her name to be 585 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 15: an allps of all young black men and women across 586 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 15: the country. And that's somebody like Waste Grifford, like Nicole 587 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 15: Hanna Jones or Iramax Canny. 588 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 8: Good for her. 589 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 15: And yes, Donald sump no udoubtedly Donald thomp said a 590 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 15: lot of black lines in Washington, DC. We call her 591 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 15: the national God. 592 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 8: So good on her. 593 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 15: And I'm so glad he brought there and there for 594 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 15: Black and Free Month. He represents the best of the 595 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 15: black community. I'm here for it. 596 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 2: I think it's been one of the most underreported stories recently, 597 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 2: the fact that there has been a dramatic drop in 598 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 2: violent crime in the US in the past twelve months, 599 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: around twenty percent drop in the murder right, and like 600 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: you said, a lot of that is in blue cities, 601 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: in areas dominated by Black Americans, and they're the ones 602 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 2: whose lives are being saved, and yet there seems to 603 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 2: be very little reporting of that at all. 604 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 4: Now I want to talk about JD. Vance. 605 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 2: He's shared his thoughts on Alexandria Kasia Cortez's performance in 606 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 2: Europe when she floundered on the world stage at the 607 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 2: Munique Security Conference. 608 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 4: Here's a little reminder of what happened with IOC. 609 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 14: Should the US actually commit US troops to defend Taiwan 610 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 14: if China were to move. 611 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 16: You know, I think that. 612 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 15: This is such a you know, I think that. 613 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 6: This is a. 614 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 16: This is of course, a very. 615 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 4: Long standing. 616 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 16: Policy of the United States. 617 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 2: Well, the Vice President has shared his thoughts on the 618 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: congresswoman's embarrassing performance. 619 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 17: Well, I think it's a person who doesn't know what 620 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 17: she actually thinks. And I've seen this way too much 621 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 17: in Washington with politicians where they are given lines, and 622 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 17: when you ask them to go out to the lines 623 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 17: they were given, they completely fall apart. Because look, does AOC. 624 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: Does anybody really. 625 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 13: Believe that AOC has very thoughtful ideas about the global 626 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 13: world order or about what the United States should do 627 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 13: with our policy in Asia or our policy in Europe. 628 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 17: No, this is a person who is mouthing the slogans 629 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 17: that somebody else gave her. 630 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 2: It's hard to disagree with jd Vance there Iosa has 631 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: talked about as the future of the Democrats. But those 632 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 2: of us who've observed her closely since she burst onto 633 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 2: the scene, well, we weren't surprised by that performance in Munich. 634 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 15: Yeah, we're definitely not surprised. But look, let me push 635 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 15: back on the wife's pards were just a second look, 636 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 15: is she an idiot? Yes, of course she But did 637 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 15: she and global war view that she can articulate generally 638 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 15: she does like look obviously general anything by Taiwan and China, right, 639 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 15: because she's she is a jew little baron. But she 640 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 15: does have a this this this Marxist pointed view on 641 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 15: how the globe should be light, an anti capital, pro 642 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 15: market view, and we I don't want to discount that 643 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 15: because that's a powerful voice in the US congres than 644 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 15: possibly want and wanting for the present pushing that viewpoint. 645 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 15: A perfect example of that encapsulated it's our common of Venezuela. Yes, 646 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 15: she's really there's no Venezuela is not south of the equator. 647 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 15: But she'd makeing a larger point because she's trying to 648 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 15: create this strife between the South and the North. That's 649 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,479 Speaker 15: why she said that, right, because she wants to create 650 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 15: the battle like geopolitical, economic, social battle reale between the 651 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,479 Speaker 15: South and the North. That's what I mean by that. Look, 652 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 15: she's gonna stay the Democratic Party, right, is this going 653 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 15: to dent her popularity the Democratic Party. We don't not 654 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 15: one iota. Okay, do not see keep on, you know, 655 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 15: I know we're talking about we're talking about the Gavin 656 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 15: Newsom and Kamala Harris. But don't sleep on her because 657 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 15: every before we've seen in twenty twenty six, she is 658 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 15: consistently the top five. Which is why you start the 659 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 15: Democratic establishment in the Democratic media talking horror. 660 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 8: Knew it because they are scared to dat that she might. 661 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 15: We thin and and kind of coalesce that leftist, that leftist, 662 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 15: well aware Macomo and and Gavin Newsom, and then he 663 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 15: slip in and become the winner of Democrat fairly. 664 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 2: Well, we've got Mandani in New York. Why not AOC 665 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 2: across America? 666 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 4: No? 667 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 2: Uh now, I mean it appears that soon to be 668 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 2: unemployed Steving Colbert is at war with CBS again. 669 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 4: He made claims about the network. 670 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 2: Trump, the SSA, everyone's censoring him is a victim, but 671 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 2: it turns out that was not the case. CBS released 672 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 2: a statement clarifying what happened, and now Colbert has fired 673 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 2: back at his own network again. Tell me what's happening here, army. 674 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 2: This is all about an interview with a Texas Democrat. 675 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 15: Yeah, so what happened was what happened is is, look, 676 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 15: there's this rule the FCC will call equal time. It 677 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 15: basically it means that when when you are covering a 678 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 15: political race, you have to give equal time for the 679 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,919 Speaker 15: other person or people in the ring. And yes, look 680 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 15: you can you can question the wisdom of that in general, 681 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 15: and that's fine, but that is the FCC rule that 682 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:37,479 Speaker 15: is there. 683 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 8: All right. 684 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 15: So when you interviewed the the Democratic interviewed the Democratic 685 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 15: uh uh not first wanting to the Democratic nomination for 686 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 15: the Senate in the Democratic Party that he would have 687 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 15: to give equal time of Jasmine Clockett. You don't want 688 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 15: to do that, which I think is really interesting. I 689 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 15: think with that show the number of things. First of all, 690 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 15: he doesn't want he knows he thinks Texans in playing, 691 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 15: that's that raised him playing. He does not want the 692 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 15: probably the person in all of Congress wandering for that 693 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 15: steed of being the nominee. 694 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 8: He's got a shot if he wants. 695 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 15: No ready to kind of put his his thumb on 696 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 15: the scale of that primary. He was also kind of 697 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 15: retailing and selling his ideas the FCC h bandvs. From 698 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,439 Speaker 15: from from playing that interview that's a complete and total 699 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 15: life obviously back down and when became public what was 700 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 15: literally going on even And this is the guy who 701 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 15: has every for five year strength, every single year, his 702 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 15: layings have been plumbiting, and so he's manufacturing his crisis 703 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 15: for number of reasons. 704 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 8: And by the way, not to discount one of the 705 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 8: reasons is he's he's. 706 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 15: Kind of the war with Paramount and CBS himself because 707 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,760 Speaker 15: he doesn't like Barry Wise wanting CBS News, he doesn't 708 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 15: like having a Dave Ellison, David Elison wanting Sky in Paramount. 709 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 8: Right. 710 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 15: I think this is another way of him trying to 711 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 15: create a controversy. Keep them the palms, he have them 712 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 15: the spotlight. Frankly, I think he look, he knows that 713 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 15: he's fading to obscurity these looking for the next gig. 714 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,760 Speaker 8: I'm probably looking to get fired. So yeah, he's creating 715 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 8: this controversy. 716 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 2: Now sticking with a painfully unfunny, tedious, afflicted late night 717 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 2: TV host. The New York Post reports Jimmy Kimmel will 718 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 2: be headlining a twenty five thousand dollars per ticket LA 719 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 2: fundraiser for House Democrats next month, and that's just the 720 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 2: cheap tickets Army. Higher priced tickets range from forty four 721 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 2: thousand dollars for the Leader's Circle to three hundred and 722 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars per ticket for the Jeffries three hundred level. 723 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel is billed as the event's special guest, and 724 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 2: you'll get great value for your money. You're gonna have 725 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi there and Hakim Jeffries. This is just shows 726 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 2: how in touch Democrats are with the common man. 727 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:57,479 Speaker 4: Army. 728 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 15: We are let my check here for three hundred thousand 729 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 15: dollars because what I kneel? Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel another person 730 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 15: fanning into obscurity enough. 731 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 8: You've forced me to do a bunch. 732 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 15: Of late night you know, number crunching, and like did 733 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 15: Colbert in the last five years, he has seen every 734 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 15: single year his wading or plummeting. Why they would choose him, 735 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 15: It does show how out of touch they are. Right, 736 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 15: if that is Jimmy Kimmel is a draw for a 737 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 15: Democratic high priced ticket is beyond my understanding. Look, they 738 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 15: own Hollywood, right, Hollywood and the media. Democratic Party. They 739 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 15: couldn't choose something more relevant than Jimmy Kimmel. 740 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 8: It just showed. 741 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 15: Yeah, you're right, they don't know what's happening. They don't 742 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 15: have their their finger on the pulset Move America. This 743 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 15: kind of hears it. 744 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 2: Me, Harwitz, thank you so much for your time. Still 745 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 2: to come, we'll have all the latest. 746 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 4: Role and celebrity news. 747 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 2: Including RFK Junior and Kid Rock topless fitness video. Kinsey 748 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 2: Schofield joins me next. 749 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 4: Welcome back. 750 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 2: Joining me now is celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, 751 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 2: let's start with Meghan Markol. She's been snapped sporting a 752 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 2: massive diamond ring, which experts say is likely in the 753 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 2: six to seven carrot range woof and worth around two 754 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand US. 755 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 4: Kinsey. 756 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 2: This comes amid claims Meghan never liked the engagement ring 757 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 2: that Harry gave her. 758 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 18: I mean, is this woman ever happy and content? She 759 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 18: tells us she's in pursuit of joy? Does that just 760 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 18: mean a bigger rock? This story taps into the long 761 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 18: running narrative around Megan Mirkel and the engagement ring from 762 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 18: Prince Harry. Remember, Harry designed that ring himself, using diamonds 763 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 18: from Princess Diana's collec so symbolically it was always very sentimental. 764 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 18: Meghan has modifated it multiple times, a resetting the band 765 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 18: and altering the design, which sparked conversation that she was 766 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 18: very hard to please. So with her now wearing an 767 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 18: even bigger rock it appears that she's not honoring that 768 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 18: original piece visually. 769 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 16: I think this feeds into the. 770 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 18: Ongoing criticism that the Sussex Bran leads heavily into you know, 771 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 18: Hollywood luxury and what's trending rather than tradition. 772 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 2: Now, US Health Secretary RFK Junior and singer songwriter Kid 773 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 2: Rock have appeared together in a topless video promoting what's 774 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 2: been dubbed the Rockout Workout, which includes hitting the gym, 775 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 2: soaking in the sauna, and taking cold plunges and more. 776 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 4: Have a look. 777 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 14: Answers at the top. 778 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 16: The dancers the Prinz are got. 779 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:06,280 Speaker 15: Back comfort. 780 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 16: All the crafts. 781 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 4: The credit. 782 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 2: Credit was RFK taking a cold plunch in his jans 783 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,760 Speaker 2: there and were they're working at in the sauna. 784 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 4: I mean, when I've got a lot of questions about this. 785 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 18: Clip, I mean, yes, uh, I can't justify the never 786 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 18: nude is what they called that on the show arrested development, 787 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 18: there was one guy that was always in denim. 788 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 16: That's a never nude I guess, but RFK. 789 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 18: His entire political identity has been built around personal wellness, 790 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 18: you know, physical resilience. 791 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 16: This is on brand. 792 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 18: He's visibly demonstrating that this is what is important to him, 793 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 18: and this is why we should listen to what he 794 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 18: has to say, whether people love it or hate it. Politically, 795 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 18: it's effective because voters respond to authenticity and energy. 796 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 16: The man is running in jeans in a pool. 797 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 18: And yeah, I do think compared to other Washington leadership, 798 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 18: the fact that the health Secretary is visibly healthy is 799 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 18: exactly the point of public recognizing. 800 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 2: Having a health secretary that actually looks healthy. I think, yeah, 801 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 2: it's something new we're trying, but I like it. Now, 802 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 2: let's talk about our own Nicole Kidman. She may have 803 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 2: a new man in her life, and Keith Urban is 804 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 2: said to be fuming about it. Appears Nicole has caught 805 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 2: the attention of MGM Results chairman Paul Salem, who has 806 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 2: expressed interest in dating the star, and a source close 807 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 2: to Urban has said that Keith is raging at the 808 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 2: idea of Nicole being linked to anyone so quickly, and 809 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 2: the fact that he is an older, distinguished multi millionaire 810 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 2: is only fueling that anger and jealousy at the prospect 811 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 2: of them getting together. Kinsey, He's got absolutely no right 812 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 2: to be feeling any which way because didn't he couple 813 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 2: up with some younger woman almost immediately Allegedly. 814 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 16: That's what Yeah, allegedly, that's what the rumors are. 815 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 18: I mean, the way this marriage reported Leenda doesn't sound 816 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 18: like it was in a great place for a while, 817 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 18: so it wouldn't shock me if Keith has some regrets 818 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 18: down the line. When you split from someone like Nicole Kidman, 819 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 18: you're not just leaving a spouse, You're leaving one of 820 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 18: the most respected and powerful women in the industry. And 821 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 18: if Nicolan's up with someone hugely successful, are influential, suddenly 822 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 18: the optics change fast, and what might have felt like 823 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 18: freedom for this guy starts looking like a major miscalculation. 824 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 2: Yes, we could be looking at a new Hollywood power 825 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 2: couple if this romance blossoms. 826 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 4: Now, let's talk. 827 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 2: About a bombshell study from all Sides revealing that Apple 828 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 2: News's editorial team has been deliberately excluding conservative media outlets 829 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,839 Speaker 2: from the popular apps handpicked top stories, Kinsey, this has 830 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 2: been obvious, obvious, The data on this is astonishing. 831 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 4: What else can you tell me? 832 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,240 Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean critics saying Apple News excludes conservative outlets. 833 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 18: It's not a new complaint, as you said, But the 834 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 18: significance here is the study from all sides attempting to 835 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 18: quantify it. 836 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 16: The real power issue is distribution. 837 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 18: When a default news app on millions of phones elevates 838 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 18: only certain outlets and sidelines others, that shapes national coverage. 839 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 16: And that's a big responsibility. 840 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 18: So the debate isn't just biased, its platform influence and 841 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 18: who effectively controls the front page of digital information for 842 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 18: everyday Americans. Apples should be held accountable for stirring the 843 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 18: pot when they do. 844 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 8: Well. 845 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,359 Speaker 2: Absolutely, because so many people now get their news from 846 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 2: their device. 847 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 4: They get it from social media as well, but they. 848 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,760 Speaker 2: Are often getting their news from from their Apple phone. 849 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 2: And if it's curated to be feature only leftist publications, 850 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 2: then you get a very warped view of the world, Kinsey. 851 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 18: And it can be dangerous if you are seeing that 852 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 18: Ice did this to a certain individual and then you 853 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 18: don't have the other outlet's perspective, you might jump in 854 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 18: your car and run and go fight a protest when 855 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 18: you haven't seen the whole side of the story. And 856 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 18: now you're just increasing the rage, increasing the controversy, and 857 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,839 Speaker 18: increasing your own personal seat like danger, and you could 858 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 18: be jeopardizing other people's safety as well. So I do 859 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 18: think that it's something we should seriously have a conversation 860 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 18: about why is this allowed. 861 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 11: Now? 862 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 2: The billionaire founder of the Victorious Secret Empire is being 863 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 2: deposed as part of a congressional investigation into the Epstein files. 864 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 2: Les Wexner was questioned about his long term relationship with Epstein, 865 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 2: who served as his personal financial advisor from the late 866 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 2: nineteen eighties until at least two thousand than seven. Wegser's 867 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 2: name appears more than four thousand times in the documents 868 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,800 Speaker 2: released by the Department of Justice. 869 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 4: He told the panel he was conned. 870 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 2: By Epstein, that Epstein lived a double life and that 871 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 2: he regretted ever knowing the and I quote clever, diabolical 872 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 2: master manipulator Kinsey. Is that enough are people scrutinizing this 873 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 2: relationship a little bit more these days? 874 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,840 Speaker 18: I mean, let's just be honest, no one's having a 875 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,800 Speaker 18: harder time than Andrew mountbount and Windsor. I think people 876 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 18: were done with Westler a long time ago. There's just 877 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 18: been something. The entire brand has been tainted by his 878 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 18: previous association. But you know, what I can say is 879 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,280 Speaker 18: that the Clintons are at least mentioned in the Epstein 880 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 18: files three thousand less times. So that's something for Hillary 881 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 18: to celebrate, as she's denying any association whatsoever. 882 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 2: On television, Yes, I saw her being interviewed by the 883 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,879 Speaker 2: BBC and she said there are no links between her 884 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 2: and Bill and Gilaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein except for 885 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 2: the fact that Gilaine was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding and 886 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 2: all those plane rides that Bill took on the Lolita Express. 887 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,359 Speaker 2: And what's Delayne being honored by the Clinton Foundation. I mean, 888 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,240 Speaker 2: the list is long, but apparently nothing to see. 889 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,919 Speaker 4: There before you go. 890 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 2: Forbes has reported that Disney netted one hundred and seventy 891 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,959 Speaker 2: million US dollars on its twenty twenty five live action 892 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 2: Snow White remakes starring Rachel Zieglash is a favorite of ours. 893 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 2: The film has failed to make back that three hundred 894 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 2: and thirty six million the company spent making it. Kinsey, 895 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 2: we've spoken about this plenty of times. Has Disney finally 896 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,760 Speaker 2: learned its lesson? Or are we going to keep seeing 897 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 2: these lefty projects that nobody wants. 898 00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 4: To watch. 899 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 18: That they've finally learned their lesson. But I also don't 900 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 18: think it's just Disney. I think Rachel Zegler hopefully has 901 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 18: learned her lesson. I'm not seeing her get much work lately. 902 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 16: Either. When you go on these political tie. 903 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 18: Rades, whether it be on talk shows, interviews, or Twitter, 904 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,440 Speaker 18: and you have hot takes, you are going to alien 905 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 18: eight fifty percent of the country. And people told her, 906 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 18: they expressed that through ticket sales. They said, you know, 907 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 18: we're not going to put up with you. We're not 908 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,919 Speaker 18: going to reward you for, you know, for being ugly 909 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 18: about us. So I think Rachel Zegler hopefully learned her 910 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 18: lesson here as well. 911 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 2: But will she be impacted because we've seen actresses and 912 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 2: actors do this over the years. They come out with 913 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 2: these hard left positions, very outspoken about it, and it 914 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 2: may alienate half the population, sometimes more, but they keep 915 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,720 Speaker 2: getting the roles because everyone in Hollywood agrees with them. 916 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 18: But Rachel, I mean, I think that people were so 917 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 18: appalled by her behavior because remember Disney asked her to 918 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 18: tone it down, and she did the opposite. She got 919 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 18: on Twitter and started going off, and I think that 920 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 18: the industry realized she's hard to control. She doesn't listen, 921 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,399 Speaker 18: she is a liability, and we haven't seen her work. 922 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 18: She ran off to London to do the stage and 923 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 18: we haven't seen her work in Hollywood since. 924 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 8: Well. 925 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 4: She is kind of uniquely unlikable. I think that adds 926 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 4: adds to that, and I think they're punishing her for 927 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 4: not listening. 928 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 2: Disney told her to pull her head in and she 929 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 2: did it, and I think that's what the punishment is, 930 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 2: rather than her bizarre opinions. Can zisco Field, thank you 931 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 2: so much for your time tonight, and that's all the 932 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 2: time we have. 933 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,720 Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere. Year's Night is up next