1 00:00:00,350 --> 00:00:01,670 Speaker 1: This is Brownie's Podcast! 2 00:00:10,110 --> 00:00:11,310 Speaker 2: This is Brownie's Podcast. 3 00:00:11,330 --> 00:00:14,210 Speaker 3: We're on holidays, gallivanting around the world, doing all sorts 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,820 Speaker 3: of risky stuff. And if you missed when Craig McRae 5 00:00:17,860 --> 00:00:20,299 Speaker 3: came on, it was legit fun because the season had ended. 6 00:00:20,579 --> 00:00:21,300 Speaker 4: He was loose. 7 00:00:21,660 --> 00:00:24,180 Speaker 1: We had a lot of laughs, dog. Fly was relaxed, 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:24,540 Speaker 1: wasn't he? 9 00:00:24,540 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: Relaxed. 10 00:00:25,540 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 5: Almost like edible relaxed. 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:27,620 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. 12 00:00:27,660 --> 00:00:29,570 Speaker 1: Like he'd been sprayed with mortine. 13 00:00:30,330 --> 00:00:31,660 Speaker 4: Yes, correct. Well done. 14 00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 5: What's coming up, John, on this episode? 15 00:00:33,620 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 6: Looking forward to Jack Carlson, looking forward to Fly. It's 16 00:00:36,300 --> 00:00:38,810 Speaker 6: going to be magnificent. And Brown Dog, well, Brown Dog's 17 00:00:38,830 --> 00:00:39,430 Speaker 6: just Brown Dog. 18 00:00:39,810 --> 00:00:46,100 Speaker 1: Yeah. In the studio, we've got Fly. Yes. Finally, a 19 00:00:46,180 --> 00:00:50,809 Speaker 1: credible guest, man. G'day, Dino. G'day. How you going? 20 00:00:50,830 --> 00:00:53,269 Speaker 4: The only man that answered our phone call all year. So, 21 00:00:53,310 --> 00:00:54,210 Speaker 4: how are you, mate? 22 00:00:54,250 --> 00:00:57,110 Speaker 1: I'm good. Brownie texted me. He says, oh, any chance 23 00:00:57,130 --> 00:00:58,750 Speaker 1: you can come in? I said, anything for you, Brownie. 24 00:00:58,850 --> 00:01:01,330 Speaker 1: Anything for you, mate. 25 00:01:01,410 --> 00:01:05,309 Speaker 5: Buddy Franklin has been ignoring this man. He's a premiership teammate. 26 00:01:05,330 --> 00:01:06,450 Speaker 1: Well, that's feedback, isn't it? 27 00:01:06,470 --> 00:01:07,050 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 28 00:01:07,069 --> 00:01:09,610 Speaker 7: I'm just glad you can bring guests in because I've 29 00:01:09,630 --> 00:01:10,709 Speaker 7: been doing this three years. 30 00:01:10,590 --> 00:01:11,380 Speaker 1: And got no one. 31 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,980 Speaker 6: Well, you He promised Clarko. He promised Mitch. He's promised Buddy. 32 00:01:16,700 --> 00:01:18,700 Speaker 6: It just has not delivered. The only time we got 33 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,910 Speaker 6: Mitch in, I actually rang Mitch directly. 34 00:01:20,990 --> 00:01:21,750 Speaker 4: I know, I know. 35 00:01:21,910 --> 00:01:23,870 Speaker 6: And so Mitch came in. That was last year. But 36 00:01:23,890 --> 00:01:26,370 Speaker 6: great to have you, mate. Premiership coach last year, of course. 37 00:01:26,410 --> 00:01:26,649 Speaker 4: But. 38 00:01:26,770 --> 00:01:29,020 Speaker 1: He's hanging on to that, aren't we? 39 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:29,660 Speaker 4: Unlikely. 40 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: Not participating in the finals in September. What are you 41 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,339 Speaker 1: doing yourself? She's 12 months is a long time for you. 42 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: Things change quickly. Yeah, still sort of working. There's lots 43 00:01:39,740 --> 00:01:41,940 Speaker 1: to be done. Trying to not stand still. 44 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,410 Speaker 4: Oh, so you don't just tools down for September? 45 00:01:44,580 --> 00:01:47,330 Speaker 1: No, there's lots to be done. There's sort of exit 46 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:50,610 Speaker 1: interviews with players and then try to acquire new staff 47 00:01:50,650 --> 00:01:51,330 Speaker 1: and all sorts of things. 48 00:01:51,630 --> 00:01:53,850 Speaker 3: Flyer, when you're here, what do you say to the 49 00:01:53,910 --> 00:01:56,410 Speaker 3: Collingwood fan listening that just needs some words from you? 50 00:01:56,770 --> 00:01:57,410 Speaker 5: What do you say to it? 51 00:01:57,450 --> 00:01:59,490 Speaker 1: Well, I'd like to think that the way we finished 52 00:01:59,510 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: the year was a good way to sort of exit. 53 00:02:01,860 --> 00:02:03,300 Speaker 1: If you're not going to play finals, at least we 54 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,500 Speaker 1: sort of got our game back on track and all those, 55 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,180 Speaker 1: you know, the Brisbane win with a minute to go with, 56 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,270 Speaker 1: you know, right to the last siren and winning those 57 00:02:12,310 --> 00:02:14,670 Speaker 1: games still is there for all to be seen. And 58 00:02:15,830 --> 00:02:19,870 Speaker 1: a year of challenges, many injuries and illness and all 59 00:02:19,889 --> 00:02:23,060 Speaker 1: sorts of things. And um yeah maybe maybe a year 60 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,820 Speaker 1: we might have had to have to be better next. 61 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,100 Speaker 6: Year how do you deal with senior players uh so 62 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,060 Speaker 6: obviously you've experienced as a player mate you understand the 63 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,810 Speaker 6: emotions and the ups and downs of going to the 64 00:02:32,930 --> 00:02:35,230 Speaker 6: climbing the mountain uh and then having to come back 65 00:02:35,310 --> 00:02:38,250 Speaker 6: and rebuild and go again um how do you deal 66 00:02:38,290 --> 00:02:40,750 Speaker 6: with the senior players and helping them with the emotions 67 00:02:40,830 --> 00:02:44,810 Speaker 6: and uh the challenges of motivation the challenge of conditioning 68 00:02:44,870 --> 00:02:45,850 Speaker 6: all those sorts of things. 69 00:02:45,790 --> 00:02:49,030 Speaker 1: Yeah i'd like to think that our senior players are 70 00:02:49,070 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: highly motivated like they're You think about Steele and Howie 71 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: and Pendles, if those three just in particular, they're hungry, 72 00:02:55,740 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: hungry athletes. Yeah, we're in a hurry to get rid 73 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,190 Speaker 1: of our experience in our industry for some reason. You know, 74 00:03:03,230 --> 00:03:06,710 Speaker 1: there's always an expiry date for everyone. But our last 75 00:03:06,750 --> 00:03:08,450 Speaker 1: game of the year, we had Ed Allen playing his 76 00:03:08,490 --> 00:03:10,970 Speaker 1: second game. He's a young kid from Perth, a high 77 00:03:11,070 --> 00:03:13,910 Speaker 1: pick for us. And, yeah, we want him to be 78 00:03:13,950 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: the next version of our midfield and gets a game. 79 00:03:17,260 --> 00:03:20,010 Speaker 1: And he comes to the first centre bounce. And they're 80 00:03:20,050 --> 00:03:23,990 Speaker 1: still side bottom 300 games. You know, Pendle's 400 games. 81 00:03:24,050 --> 00:03:25,950 Speaker 1: And he's in his second game. And Pendle comes up 82 00:03:25,970 --> 00:03:27,790 Speaker 1: to me and goes, oh, where do you want this, mate? 83 00:03:28,230 --> 00:03:30,230 Speaker 1: The first bounce against Melbourne. He goes, what do you mean? 84 00:03:30,250 --> 00:03:31,930 Speaker 1: He goes, where do you want the ball hit to? 85 00:03:31,950 --> 00:03:34,970 Speaker 1: Because you're the go-to. And he goes, ah, over there. 86 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,340 Speaker 1: And you can imagine this kid in his second game 87 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: getting told by a 400th gamer, you're the guy. And 88 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,010 Speaker 1: so our experience– Yeah, he's been enormous for us, and 89 00:03:44,030 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: we're not in a hurry to get rid of him. 90 00:03:45,390 --> 00:03:47,610 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, if you can get harness 91 00:03:47,670 --> 00:03:50,450 Speaker 1: in the right– with the right energy, yeah, it's a 92 00:03:50,470 --> 00:03:51,290 Speaker 1: weapon if you can have it. 93 00:03:51,530 --> 00:03:55,620 Speaker 7: Did you let form dictate that with– Pendles and also Steele? 94 00:03:55,630 --> 00:03:57,860 Speaker 7: Because I know that sort of Mitch probably is a 95 00:03:58,020 --> 00:04:00,500 Speaker 7: bit similar with Gunston and Bruce. Like at one stage 96 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 7: it looked like those two guys weren't going to go 97 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 7: on and now they've got one-year deals. Was it something 98 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 7: that you said, we'll see how the year plays out, 99 00:04:07,700 --> 00:04:09,060 Speaker 7: see how their bodies are holding up and then make 100 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:09,420 Speaker 7: a call? 101 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were slightly different because Steele started the year 102 00:04:11,980 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: recently in average form at his high levels. But Pendles, 103 00:04:16,180 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: it's the same with the captaincy with Pendles. I just 104 00:04:17,820 --> 00:04:19,500 Speaker 1: said to him, mate, this is yours for as long 105 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,860 Speaker 1: as you want it. And we've got a relationship. I 106 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,850 Speaker 1: know he's not going to... you know, take us for 107 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,690 Speaker 1: granted in this sense. Like, he knows his body well. 108 00:04:28,710 --> 00:04:31,089 Speaker 1: He knows what he's capable of. He's still really hungry 109 00:04:31,110 --> 00:04:33,870 Speaker 1: in the mind, and as long as he is, you know, 110 00:04:33,970 --> 00:04:35,620 Speaker 1: this is your career moment. We'll back you in. 111 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,020 Speaker 3: Hey, Fly, are you and the other coaches in the 112 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: league looking at Sam Mitchell going, this young little son 113 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:42,050 Speaker 3: of a. 114 00:04:44,970 --> 00:04:46,790 Speaker 1: Well, not so much that. I worked with Sam for 115 00:04:46,790 --> 00:04:50,510 Speaker 1: 12 months, and funnily enough, before, he was given the 116 00:04:50,529 --> 00:04:53,690 Speaker 1: job to take over from Clarko while I was at Hawthorne. 117 00:04:54,610 --> 00:04:56,130 Speaker 1: And I hadn't had the job at Collingwood, so we 118 00:04:56,150 --> 00:04:58,070 Speaker 1: were talking a lot in coffees, and I'm just listening, 119 00:04:58,089 --> 00:04:59,609 Speaker 1: and he goes, I'm going to be really aggressive with 120 00:04:59,630 --> 00:05:01,690 Speaker 1: the offence, and I think the next premiership's going to 121 00:05:01,710 --> 00:05:03,980 Speaker 1: be one through offence. I thought, I like this. I 122 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,820 Speaker 1: get the Collingwood job, I go, I'm taking it. Absolutely. 123 00:05:07,860 --> 00:05:10,220 Speaker 6: Which you've done, and it does help you with Nick 124 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,060 Speaker 6: Dacos and the team. Tell us about the Dacos effect. 125 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: Look... I'd laugh this year when he's really taking the 126 00:05:18,180 --> 00:05:20,150 Speaker 1: piss out of the game against Brisbane. He's kicking goals 127 00:05:20,170 --> 00:05:23,890 Speaker 1: from everywhere and changing the scoreboard just from his influence. 128 00:05:24,490 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm in awe of him. I really am. I said 129 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: after the game, I'm going to tell my grandkids I 130 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,710 Speaker 1: coached Nick Dacos because this kid, he's– I coached– oh, 131 00:05:34,730 --> 00:05:38,089 Speaker 1: was that Richmond with Dusty? We played with so many greats, Brownie. 132 00:05:38,570 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: This guy, he's got all those attributes of Ablett and 133 00:05:42,620 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: other parts, but he's an elite runner, absolute elite runner. 134 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,500 Speaker 1: And that's a game changer in the current footy because 135 00:05:49,779 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: he'll be here and the next minute he's trying to 136 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:53,620 Speaker 1: rest down the road. And it's high speed running too, 137 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:54,550 Speaker 1: isn't it? Intense. 138 00:05:55,940 --> 00:05:59,390 Speaker 6: So would he win a– so Steele's side bottom was 139 00:05:59,430 --> 00:06:01,849 Speaker 6: always regarded as a high speed runner for a long. 140 00:06:01,730 --> 00:06:06,089 Speaker 4: Period of time. Would he beat Steele in a running test? 141 00:06:06,330 --> 00:06:08,729 Speaker 1: Well, a couple of years ago he did. He came 142 00:06:08,770 --> 00:06:11,650 Speaker 1: back from– after we lost to Sydney in the prelim 143 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,180 Speaker 1: and he came back and won the time trial. 144 00:06:13,380 --> 00:06:14,450 Speaker 4: Yeah. He's 21. 145 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:19,820 Speaker 1: Yeah. What's something quirky about him that people might not know? 146 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:20,020 Speaker 6: Dirt. 147 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 7: Has he got an OCD or does he do something 148 00:06:22,580 --> 00:06:24,910 Speaker 7: funny pre-game? 149 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:29,450 Speaker 1: He's quite a little shy little young man and we 150 00:06:29,490 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: love that about him. He apparently goes over to your 151 00:06:31,690 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: friend's house and plays Game Boy. 152 00:06:32,900 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: I know that. 153 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,100 Speaker 6: Do you still live with mum and dad? 154 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: I think he does. 155 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: That's charming, John. 156 00:06:39,740 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: It's charming. 157 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 4: Well, of course you would do that. Mum can do 158 00:06:43,940 --> 00:06:44,930 Speaker 4: the washing for you. 159 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,370 Speaker 1: Free rent. 160 00:06:46,390 --> 00:06:46,870 Speaker 4: Free rent. 161 00:06:47,650 --> 00:06:51,810 Speaker 6: Do you feel like you can't abuse it because it 162 00:06:51,850 --> 00:06:54,230 Speaker 6: must be an unbelievable feeling to have this chess piece. 163 00:06:54,950 --> 00:06:57,250 Speaker 6: Do you have to be careful with your coaching not 164 00:06:57,270 --> 00:06:59,330 Speaker 6: to pull the rest of the team out of whack? 165 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: Yes and no. I'm I just openly say, mate, we'll 166 00:07:03,980 --> 00:07:05,620 Speaker 1: play Nick where we need to win the game. And 167 00:07:05,660 --> 00:07:08,219 Speaker 1: he knows that. So I often get, we have the 168 00:07:08,260 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: team meeting and then we have these walkthroughs and then 169 00:07:10,860 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: I get Nick with Pendle, say, Pendle's come over here. 170 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,820 Speaker 1: And we have a separate meeting. This week we're going 171 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,820 Speaker 1: to do this. Can you just make sure he's okay? 172 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,140 Speaker 1: And so the team don't really know at times, but 173 00:07:22,180 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: we make the game around Nick a lot. 174 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 7: Darcy Moore's been a great captain for your footy club. 175 00:07:25,780 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 7: Who do you see being the next heir apparent? 176 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: Well, we'd like to think there's a few, but Nick's 177 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: not in our leadership group yet. And you'd think we're 178 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,990 Speaker 1: probably at that stage where we're progressing towards that next 179 00:07:39,020 --> 00:07:41,690 Speaker 1: generation of who's the young one coming through. And I'd 180 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:43,550 Speaker 1: be surprised if he's not somewhere in the mark. But 181 00:07:44,950 --> 00:07:47,370 Speaker 1: he's probably the obvious one because I think Darcy might 182 00:07:47,390 --> 00:07:48,810 Speaker 1: have three or four or five years left. 183 00:07:48,970 --> 00:07:49,310 Speaker 4: Who knows? 184 00:07:50,690 --> 00:07:51,260 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably him. 185 00:07:51,890 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 6: What about Jordan Ngoi? Is he going to be back 186 00:07:54,100 --> 00:07:56,620 Speaker 6: to his full strength? Bloody hope so. 187 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,870 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. He's a star, isn't he? 188 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,060 Speaker 4: But I've had those groins. I can relate to it. 189 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:06,860 Speaker 6: And he's debilitating, that injury, groins, stomach issues, in terms 190 00:08:06,900 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 6: of his power. 191 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:09,170 Speaker 4: And his real strength is his power. 192 00:08:09,630 --> 00:08:12,210 Speaker 1: Yeah, we wrestled this year probably for five or six 193 00:08:12,250 --> 00:08:13,610 Speaker 1: weeks in the middle of the year. He didn't train. 194 00:08:13,730 --> 00:08:15,630 Speaker 1: He was not training. He was doing straight line running 195 00:08:15,650 --> 00:08:17,130 Speaker 1: and then going, oh, no, he's right to go and 196 00:08:17,570 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: put him out and go, he's not right to go. 197 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: He can only do 85% of what he's capable of. 198 00:08:21,820 --> 00:08:23,380 Speaker 1: So time will tell on that, yeah. 199 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 5: Hey, Fly, when does Jake Stringer start? 200 00:08:25,380 --> 00:08:30,290 Speaker 1: LAUGHTER Right, just nice. 201 00:08:30,330 --> 00:08:32,069 Speaker 4: Good start. Real good start. 202 00:08:32,190 --> 00:08:34,030 Speaker 1: I'm trying to trick you. 203 00:08:34,309 --> 00:08:38,390 Speaker 4: Tell us about getting recognised now. Oh, mate. 204 00:08:38,550 --> 00:08:43,250 Speaker 1: I was the least recognised. This is a true story. 205 00:08:43,450 --> 00:08:46,670 Speaker 1: We win a premiership and then, you know, well done, Browning, 206 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: and well done, Acura and Rossi, and well done, the 207 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: ball boy or the water carrier. And then the second year, 208 00:08:53,660 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: they started to know a few more names. We went 209 00:08:55,179 --> 00:08:58,359 Speaker 1: Sean Hart and all these– The third year, like, they'd 210 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: started the– this is our own supporter base. Yeah. You're 211 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: number four. You're number four. And quite often they'd call 212 00:09:05,300 --> 00:09:06,500 Speaker 1: me Marcus Hashcroft anyway. 213 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 214 00:09:07,420 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: So I'm not used to that. And for most of 215 00:09:09,220 --> 00:09:12,540 Speaker 1: my life, I didn't really care about attention. But, oh, boy, 216 00:09:12,590 --> 00:09:13,250 Speaker 1: that's changed now. 217 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,310 Speaker 7: Fly, there was some deja vu last week involving Jack Yennevan, 218 00:09:17,330 --> 00:09:19,130 Speaker 7: but this time you didn't have to actually put up 219 00:09:19,150 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 7: with it. 220 00:09:19,470 --> 00:09:22,230 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. What were you thinking? You've been there and 221 00:09:22,270 --> 00:09:24,630 Speaker 1: seen it before. Yeah. I was going to buy him 222 00:09:24,670 --> 00:09:28,910 Speaker 1: a beer at the pub last night. Yeah. That cheeky boy. 223 00:09:28,929 --> 00:09:32,189 Speaker 1: I like cheeky. I really like cheeky. I do. I 224 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:33,620 Speaker 1: live in cheeky. 225 00:09:33,780 --> 00:09:36,939 Speaker 6: Because you're a cheeky character. 226 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: No, I love it. I wish I could be more 227 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,220 Speaker 1: cheeky in press conferences. My media team, Tash, is probably 228 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: going to listen to this. She tries to rein me 229 00:09:44,420 --> 00:09:46,569 Speaker 1: back in because I want to be cheeky. I think 230 00:09:46,610 --> 00:09:49,050 Speaker 1: it's good as long as it's respectful. I think there's 231 00:09:49,090 --> 00:09:52,330 Speaker 1: a fine line between arrogance and disrespectful and I don't 232 00:09:52,410 --> 00:09:53,349 Speaker 1: like living in that space. 233 00:09:53,550 --> 00:09:54,329 Speaker 4: Yeah. 234 00:09:54,470 --> 00:09:55,590 Speaker 1: But I do like cheeky. 235 00:09:56,590 --> 00:09:59,970 Speaker 2: Ginnivan, so when he was with Collingwood, the whole big. 236 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,860 Speaker 5: personality thing, that wasn't a problem. 237 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:03,420 Speaker 1: Big personality? 238 00:10:03,620 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: Like, you know, just his social media presence and it 239 00:10:05,820 --> 00:10:08,250 Speaker 3: was the Guinea show a lot when he's around. 240 00:10:08,260 --> 00:10:11,770 Speaker 1: Well, I think there's always a fine line on it. Whatever's... 241 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,580 Speaker 1: attracting attention away from the team, they become grey. And 242 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: we lived it, didn't we, Brownie? Absolutely. 243 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,660 Speaker 5: Handstands. 244 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,819 Speaker 4: Well, handstands are okay. It's when it starts to go 245 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:26,300 Speaker 4: to disrespect. 246 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 6: Comments in the media. But he wasn't doing handstands during 247 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,580 Speaker 6: a game. That was for the fans after the game. 248 00:10:32,660 --> 00:10:34,239 Speaker 6: It's when it starts to cross over into. 249 00:10:35,780 --> 00:10:37,300 Speaker 4: Maybe insults on opposition. 250 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: Those sorts of things. I know he copped a lot 251 00:10:39,980 --> 00:10:42,380 Speaker 1: of flack because this is Acker now, leading into a 252 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,739 Speaker 1: grand final, we mentioned Nigel Lapp with broken ribs, and 253 00:10:44,780 --> 00:10:47,700 Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, we've given away trade secrets. So 254 00:10:47,940 --> 00:10:50,780 Speaker 1: when it starts to come at your team fabric, this 255 00:10:50,820 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: game's hard enough. When you tear your own apart, that's 256 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,940 Speaker 1: when I know Lee in particular, he was big on that. 257 00:10:55,179 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 4: What about the challenges of the younger generation with social media? 258 00:10:58,580 --> 00:11:03,140 Speaker 1: Yeah. Honestly, if I could change one thing in society, 259 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: and it's good to hear the government are trying to 260 00:11:04,980 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: make some regulations around this, I reckon you should have 261 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,110 Speaker 1: identity for your social profile. You know, have accountability to 262 00:11:12,130 --> 00:11:15,010 Speaker 1: your social profile. You can't be, you know, sexy legs 263 00:11:15,090 --> 00:11:18,530 Speaker 1: at 69 and send you a message. I think accountability 264 00:11:18,550 --> 00:11:22,510 Speaker 1: because it's really bad. Trolling stops. People have to put 265 00:11:22,530 --> 00:11:24,690 Speaker 1: their name to it, right? Everyone's blue tics. 266 00:11:24,950 --> 00:11:25,990 Speaker 4: Show your licence. 267 00:11:26,230 --> 00:11:29,380 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have your licence and whatever attached to you. 268 00:11:29,460 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: And if you want to make a comment, then you're 269 00:11:30,860 --> 00:11:34,300 Speaker 1: accountable to that. But I think it's really bad. Some 270 00:11:34,380 --> 00:11:36,660 Speaker 1: of the stuff that I know personally that I've received, 271 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,300 Speaker 1: death threats and all this other stuff, you go, oh, man, 272 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,459 Speaker 1: what's going on here? This is not well. And I 273 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: know a lot of our players in particular have had 274 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: to completely shut out because it's really started to affect 275 00:11:48,220 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: their life personally. 276 00:11:49,580 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 4: Sexy legs at 69. I wish I had done that. 277 00:11:52,300 --> 00:11:54,330 Speaker 1: He missed out on it. 278 00:11:54,370 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 6: Sorry. 279 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,410 Speaker 1: You went with Big Booty Brown. At Hotmail.com, sorry. You 280 00:11:59,450 --> 00:12:01,610 Speaker 1: know we all had one of those back then. I've 281 00:12:01,630 --> 00:12:04,190 Speaker 1: still got a Hotmail account. What was your first Hotmail address? 282 00:12:04,210 --> 00:12:04,729 Speaker 4: Can you remember it? 283 00:12:04,990 --> 00:12:07,849 Speaker 1: No, it definitely wasn't sexy. I legit still use a 284 00:12:07,850 --> 00:12:09,260 Speaker 1: Hotmail account. People giggle at me. 285 00:12:09,270 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: What is it? 286 00:12:10,110 --> 00:12:12,870 Speaker 7: Oh, it's cam underscore brown 51 at Hotmail.com. That's what 287 00:12:12,890 --> 00:12:15,010 Speaker 7: I had at school. Hey, Fly, you've been the best. 288 00:12:15,470 --> 00:12:17,430 Speaker 7: team in the competition for the last couple of years 289 00:12:17,470 --> 00:12:18,910 Speaker 7: at winning close games. 290 00:12:19,050 --> 00:12:19,309 Speaker 4: Yes. 291 00:12:19,690 --> 00:12:22,100 Speaker 7: Some people say, oh, it's luck, but it's not when 292 00:12:22,140 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 7: you do it so consistently. Well, and even this year, 293 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,060 Speaker 7: you know, two draws and you come from behind, win 294 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:30,540 Speaker 7: against North, you beat Adelaide, you beat Carlton, you continued 295 00:12:30,860 --> 00:12:32,980 Speaker 7: to win those close games. Now, as a coach, you 296 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,730 Speaker 7: probably prefer not to be in a close game. 297 00:12:34,750 --> 00:12:37,170 Speaker 1: Yep. But how do you get it done all the time? Yeah, 298 00:12:37,210 --> 00:12:39,050 Speaker 1: I learned some good lessons this year about what do 299 00:12:39,070 --> 00:12:43,250 Speaker 1: you reward. We were 54 points down and came back 300 00:12:43,309 --> 00:12:46,590 Speaker 1: and it was just unbelievable. And I challenged why we're 301 00:12:46,610 --> 00:12:48,609 Speaker 1: in this position more than the reward, the behavior. And 302 00:12:48,929 --> 00:12:53,540 Speaker 1: I won't do that again. We drew a game against 303 00:12:53,620 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: Fremantle and I thought our effort and our talent Want 304 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: and fight was there, so I rewarded effort. 305 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:58,900 Speaker 8: Right. 306 00:12:58,940 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: How do we keep doing it? There's definitely a method 307 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,490 Speaker 1: to it. You train it all the time, don't you? Yeah, 308 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,370 Speaker 1: we do. I think it's easier to come from behind 309 00:13:06,390 --> 00:13:08,610 Speaker 1: than it is to hold leads. I think that's reality. 310 00:13:09,290 --> 00:13:11,189 Speaker 1: The modern game is very difficult to hold a lead. 311 00:13:11,230 --> 00:13:12,730 Speaker 1: You look at Sydney just last weekend. 312 00:13:12,750 --> 00:13:15,410 Speaker 6: Is it because of the rules? The AFL have encouraged... 313 00:13:15,429 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 6: high-flow games? No, I think we take more risk. You just, like, 314 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 6: if I can only refer to ourselves, we're four goals down. 315 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 6: I'd rather lose by 10. Let's just go. 316 00:13:24,980 --> 00:13:25,540 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 317 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 7: What about Sydney's last quarter against GWS? They just spat 318 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 7: forward and rolled the dice. 319 00:13:29,820 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: And then, particularly if you've got a home crowd, that 320 00:13:32,059 --> 00:13:34,670 Speaker 1: momentum is like, you watch the players, they grow an 321 00:13:34,830 --> 00:13:37,910 Speaker 1: extra leg. So momentum's a big thing in footy. I'd 322 00:13:37,929 --> 00:13:40,670 Speaker 1: love to know how to hold it, that four-goal lead more, 323 00:13:40,690 --> 00:13:42,790 Speaker 1: and we're going to work over the pre-season, potentially trying 324 00:13:42,809 --> 00:13:48,069 Speaker 1: some stuff. But when you're behind, it's, yeah, against Brisbane, 325 00:13:48,090 --> 00:13:49,470 Speaker 1: that was one of our better wins for the year. 326 00:13:49,490 --> 00:13:50,110 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was amazing. 327 00:13:50,150 --> 00:13:52,110 Speaker 1: Yeah, kicking three goals in four minutes, what it was. 328 00:13:52,150 --> 00:13:53,290 Speaker 1: So those things are exciting. 329 00:13:53,309 --> 00:13:55,130 Speaker 7: You've got to stay, sorry, Tino, you've got to stay 330 00:13:55,170 --> 00:13:57,819 Speaker 7: calm in big moments. And I think a lot of 331 00:13:57,929 --> 00:14:01,020 Speaker 7: the Collingwood players do that. They know what's going on 332 00:14:01,059 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 7: around them and what they are required to do. Is 333 00:14:03,020 --> 00:14:06,020 Speaker 7: that something that a mindfulness coach or psychologist works with? 334 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,699 Speaker 1: No, we're just present to the moment. We talk about 335 00:14:08,740 --> 00:14:11,500 Speaker 1: just being present, you know, manage this moment really well. 336 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: We talk about... 120 minutes of the game. We want 337 00:14:13,940 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: to manage the seconds. We got to that point in 338 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:18,220 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. I noticed you said we'd 339 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,620 Speaker 1: lost the aura, Bernie, halfway through the year. You're so 340 00:14:20,700 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: the bitch. 341 00:14:20,950 --> 00:14:21,250 Speaker 4: Come on, mate. 342 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,530 Speaker 1: You can't be saying that. That's your friend. 343 00:14:22,730 --> 00:14:23,729 Speaker 4: I lost a close game. 344 00:14:23,770 --> 00:14:25,330 Speaker 1: Say sorry. One close game. 345 00:14:25,450 --> 00:14:28,830 Speaker 4: Apologise. Well, I get criticised if I go too easy 346 00:14:28,850 --> 00:14:29,390 Speaker 4: on me boys. 347 00:14:29,410 --> 00:14:30,530 Speaker 1: So I've got to be saying. 348 00:14:31,010 --> 00:14:32,750 Speaker 6: I've got to be seen to be balanced and every 349 00:14:32,810 --> 00:14:35,890 Speaker 6: now and again I've got to go that far, too 350 00:14:35,930 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 6: far that way just to balance everyone and go, he's 351 00:14:38,500 --> 00:14:40,060 Speaker 6: not favouring me because I've got four teammates. 352 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: Why are you looking to fly? 353 00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:42,540 Speaker 1: Why are you looking to fly? He wouldn't look at 354 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:43,980 Speaker 1: me in the eye if he said that. We had 355 00:14:44,020 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: lunch the day before and then he goes on the 356 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,340 Speaker 1: next night, we've lost his aura, I go, no, here 357 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:48,410 Speaker 1: we go. 358 00:14:48,420 --> 00:14:48,980 Speaker 2: Come on, man. 359 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 6: I thought someone's going to take a photo of me 360 00:14:50,710 --> 00:14:52,210 Speaker 6: having lunch and fly. 361 00:14:52,530 --> 00:14:56,290 Speaker 4: But I've got four coaches, four teammates. As AFL coach, 362 00:14:56,310 --> 00:14:57,230 Speaker 4: which is pretty extraordinary. 363 00:14:57,530 --> 00:15:00,350 Speaker 1: Who's your favourite? Don't say it. Be careful. 364 00:15:00,390 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 6: Well, the reigning premiership coach. Yes. But who's the hardest 365 00:15:05,660 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 6: to coach against? I know you won't answer this, but 366 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 6: who's your best record against? 367 00:15:10,860 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: Oh, maybe Carlton, I think. 368 00:15:12,460 --> 00:15:15,660 Speaker 4: Maybe Carlton, yeah. Oh, yes, you've had some big games. 369 00:15:15,710 --> 00:15:19,130 Speaker 1: Yeah, those Carlton games have been amazing. And this time 370 00:15:19,170 --> 00:15:21,670 Speaker 1: last year, we were both heading into prelims, Carlton up 371 00:15:21,730 --> 00:15:25,130 Speaker 1: at the Gabba and us down here in Melbourne. And 372 00:15:25,510 --> 00:15:27,190 Speaker 1: Vossie and I spoke to each other and we go, 373 00:15:27,210 --> 00:15:30,820 Speaker 1: imagine if we both win. Melbourne will go nuts in 374 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: terms of Carlton-Columb grand final. But we've had some incredible battles. 375 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:34,060 Speaker 6: Yeah. 376 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,420 Speaker 1: Yeah, this year and last year and the year before, 377 00:15:36,460 --> 00:15:39,260 Speaker 1: it's been... Yeah, we just match up really well against 378 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:39,620 Speaker 1: each other. 379 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 7: If you were sitting in a cafe and a carjacking 380 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 7: flipped up in front of you, would you take off 381 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:46,460 Speaker 7: after that? 382 00:15:46,740 --> 00:15:49,170 Speaker 1: Good question. I won my last fight by 150 metres 383 00:15:49,270 --> 00:15:50,940 Speaker 1: running the other way. 384 00:15:52,910 --> 00:15:55,470 Speaker 3: Is the feeling of a close win as a coach 385 00:15:55,510 --> 00:15:57,690 Speaker 3: better than it was as a player or the same? 386 00:15:58,430 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I don't recall having this many close games. 387 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: We won 19 of our games decided by under a 388 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,859 Speaker 1: goal in the last year. 389 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:08,540 Speaker 4: Crazy stuff. 390 00:16:08,860 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: Amazing. Some of those wins, jeez, you feel so energised 391 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, even just recently that Brisbane game was 392 00:16:15,620 --> 00:16:19,050 Speaker 1: a remarkable win. So I've got to say the coaching, yeah. 393 00:16:19,130 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: And since the 6-6-6, it feels like big leads are 394 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: gettable now. Like you can get back from 40 points. 395 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:25,420 Speaker 4: They are. 396 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,500 Speaker 1: Do you feel that? Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. And 397 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: that's the momentum shift that, you know, you've got to 398 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,740 Speaker 1: go back to a central position where everybody's, you know, 399 00:16:33,780 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: you can't flood back. So, you know, incentive bounces can 400 00:16:36,620 --> 00:16:39,180 Speaker 1: be such a weapon. Yeah, hard to stop. 401 00:16:39,300 --> 00:16:42,050 Speaker 7: We're seeing more coaches coaching from the boundary now. Is 402 00:16:42,650 --> 00:16:45,870 Speaker 7: that an advantage or I know you sort of do 403 00:16:45,890 --> 00:16:46,530 Speaker 7: a little bit of both? 404 00:16:47,210 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: I think the boundary for me is the intimate relationship. 405 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: connection straight away like i've got pendles next to me 406 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: and he's about to go on pendles make that happen 407 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,500 Speaker 1: do that whatever yeah he's asking me questions and you 408 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,970 Speaker 1: can action it from the box you threw a phone 409 00:17:00,010 --> 00:17:02,510 Speaker 1: and hoping to get some you don't see eye contact 410 00:17:02,590 --> 00:17:04,670 Speaker 1: you don't see tone you don't see energy you must 411 00:17:04,710 --> 00:17:06,730 Speaker 1: have trust in your coaches though you can't do it 412 00:17:06,770 --> 00:17:09,369 Speaker 1: down there without that yeah and and i wouldn't be 413 00:17:09,410 --> 00:17:12,450 Speaker 1: doing that without the enormous trust of hayden skipworth and 414 00:17:13,109 --> 00:17:16,780 Speaker 1: and Scott Selwood and Ruffy and Lepper with his strategy stuff. 415 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,260 Speaker 1: So you've got to have that. If you don't have that, 416 00:17:18,300 --> 00:17:20,699 Speaker 1: you can't do it. But, yeah, we have a lot 417 00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: of strategy before the game, funnily enough, that we go to. 418 00:17:23,380 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 7: So if you want to look at a holistic approach 419 00:17:25,780 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 7: to the game, you'll duck upstairs to do that? 420 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,179 Speaker 1: Funnily enough, I've got vision behind me. Right. And I 421 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,859 Speaker 1: know my eyes aren't great as what they used to, 422 00:17:33,890 --> 00:17:35,929 Speaker 1: but you don't miss too much. You miss probably the 423 00:17:36,170 --> 00:17:39,109 Speaker 1: intimacy of the stoppages, which you can go back and 424 00:17:39,130 --> 00:17:41,150 Speaker 1: look at. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you don't miss much, 425 00:17:41,210 --> 00:17:45,530 Speaker 1: and I prefer the contact and the energy and the 426 00:17:45,590 --> 00:17:48,170 Speaker 1: go get them. That's my approach. 427 00:17:48,190 --> 00:17:50,090 Speaker 6: So when you're watching the game, what do you look for? 428 00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:51,949 Speaker 6: Do you look for the flow? Do you look for 429 00:17:51,970 --> 00:17:55,820 Speaker 6: the contest? What's your main priority? You're standing on the sideline, 430 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,430 Speaker 6: I guess, as we all go and watch the footy, 431 00:17:57,470 --> 00:18:01,340 Speaker 6: don't we? And everyone watches through a different lens. What 432 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:02,300 Speaker 6: do you mainly look for? 433 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,890 Speaker 1: I look for connection. connection in defense and offense. And 434 00:18:07,350 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: later in the year, I felt like we tightened the 435 00:18:09,220 --> 00:18:11,220 Speaker 1: screws on how we wanted to move the ball, which 436 00:18:11,260 --> 00:18:15,609 Speaker 1: helped us defend better. We had a couple of moments 437 00:18:15,650 --> 00:18:18,450 Speaker 1: this year where we strayed. And I use that language 438 00:18:18,470 --> 00:18:21,409 Speaker 1: like a strayed cat. Don't stray from the plan. If 439 00:18:21,450 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: you're going to kick it pointing that way, kick it 440 00:18:23,630 --> 00:18:25,740 Speaker 1: that way. Where are you guys pointing that way? And 441 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden we're all over the shop. 442 00:18:27,580 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: So I look for those connection pieces. 443 00:18:29,780 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 4: Well, Lee was big on that. 444 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,580 Speaker 6: And I could sense, I was a younger fellow coming 445 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,180 Speaker 6: through and Fly is one of the experienced guys. 446 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,420 Speaker 4: I could sense the frustration there. 447 00:18:38,180 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 6: With some of the veterans at times when we would always, 448 00:18:41,380 --> 00:18:44,010 Speaker 6: quite often when we'd play at home, the opposition team 449 00:18:44,050 --> 00:18:45,530 Speaker 6: would train after us at the Gabba. 450 00:18:45,550 --> 00:18:46,530 Speaker 4: We'd allow them to train. 451 00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:49,590 Speaker 6: So they'd be standing on the sidelines the night before 452 00:18:49,609 --> 00:18:53,490 Speaker 6: a game and we'd be, Lee would practice our kick-out 453 00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:57,060 Speaker 6: drill in front of the opposition team and the veterans 454 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 6: would get shitty. You know, like, don't worry about it, boys, 455 00:18:59,340 --> 00:19:01,900 Speaker 6: don't worry about it. If we know what each other 456 00:19:01,940 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 6: are doing, I don't care what the opposition knows. 457 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad you just heard his lethal word. 458 00:19:06,340 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 4: I know. 459 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 5: Because it's pretty good, man. 460 00:19:08,220 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 4: Have you got one? 461 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,940 Speaker 1: No, but can I tell a story about every game 462 00:19:10,980 --> 00:19:13,219 Speaker 1: that we play together? He's a 19-year-old kid with his 463 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: shaved head and hadn't changed much in a long time. 464 00:19:15,820 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 4: That's right. 465 00:19:16,420 --> 00:19:20,210 Speaker 1: We were about to run out. He's breathing fire. I 466 00:19:20,430 --> 00:19:23,050 Speaker 1: used to just like having fun, so I'd be cracking 467 00:19:23,070 --> 00:19:25,570 Speaker 1: jokes and things. He'd grab me just before we'd go 468 00:19:25,590 --> 00:19:29,210 Speaker 1: through the race. Every single game... I mean, my little mate. 469 00:19:29,490 --> 00:19:33,060 Speaker 1: I won't do your voice, but he goes, run and 470 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: buy me, fly. Run and buy me. And so this 471 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,139 Speaker 1: is what I knew. So I'd get out there at 472 00:19:38,180 --> 00:19:40,260 Speaker 1: the start of the game, and you used to come 473 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: and rough me up. My opponent was trying to rough 474 00:19:41,780 --> 00:19:44,649 Speaker 1: me up. So I'd start on one half-forward flank and 475 00:19:44,690 --> 00:19:48,189 Speaker 1: run across the other side. And as I'm running, my 476 00:19:48,210 --> 00:19:49,889 Speaker 1: opponent's trying to chase me. And then I'd hear this. 477 00:19:50,340 --> 00:19:55,500 Speaker 1: He'd drop the elbow into his ribs every single game. 478 00:19:55,540 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 4: How good. 479 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:57,860 Speaker 1: Every single game. 480 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: Oh, my God. 481 00:19:59,030 --> 00:20:03,450 Speaker 6: Who did the best lethal impression? Because Sam takes great 482 00:20:03,470 --> 00:20:05,530 Speaker 6: pride in it. So last year he walked out as 483 00:20:05,550 --> 00:20:06,330 Speaker 6: the Logies host. 484 00:20:06,730 --> 00:20:07,310 Speaker 4: This is Peggy. 485 00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:09,169 Speaker 1: Peggy says hi, by the way. 486 00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:11,889 Speaker 6: Yeah, his first two steps, or his first step he 487 00:20:11,910 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 6: did as Lee, he's got an unbelievable Lee Matthews walk. 488 00:20:15,140 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 4: This year, he went to the next level. 489 00:20:16,940 --> 00:20:19,860 Speaker 6: He walked out the whole way to the microphone as 490 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 6: Lee Matthews, which a lot of people wouldn't have realised. 491 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,380 Speaker 1: It was just pretty much real. 492 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,530 Speaker 3: For me, he was a dynasty teammate to do a 493 00:20:27,570 --> 00:20:28,470 Speaker 3: drinking session with. 494 00:20:28,690 --> 00:20:29,449 Speaker 1: I know, I know. 495 00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:30,190 Speaker 4: Not Pike. 496 00:20:30,290 --> 00:20:32,770 Speaker 1: I know, Bossy and I had some great times and 497 00:20:32,790 --> 00:20:35,030 Speaker 1: footy trips and we'd nestle in and let all the 498 00:20:35,070 --> 00:20:36,970 Speaker 1: young guys do all the crazy stuff. And finally, we 499 00:20:37,010 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: used to run the show and So when you got 500 00:20:39,380 --> 00:20:43,100 Speaker 1: to run the show, others had to do all the consequences. So, obviously, 501 00:20:43,220 --> 00:20:44,660 Speaker 1: I had some good time. But we had a great 502 00:20:44,859 --> 00:20:48,659 Speaker 1: time in New Orleans with Brownie. Oh. Can I share? Yeah, 503 00:20:48,869 --> 00:20:50,629 Speaker 1: of course. Nothing's off limits. 504 00:20:50,650 --> 00:20:51,850 Speaker 4: This is unbelievable. 505 00:20:51,890 --> 00:20:55,530 Speaker 1: This is your life, Brownie. That's right. No, we were 506 00:20:55,550 --> 00:20:57,630 Speaker 1: in New Orleans and having a good time. And about 507 00:20:57,690 --> 00:21:00,010 Speaker 1: three days in, we'd get up and– If I said 508 00:21:00,030 --> 00:21:01,990 Speaker 1: I had room together, go down and normally Brownie would 509 00:21:02,010 --> 00:21:03,630 Speaker 1: be at the bar early just to keep it warm 510 00:21:04,210 --> 00:21:07,540 Speaker 1: and make sure the tap's still running. And one day 511 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: he's not there. I'm going, oh, no, we're in trouble. 512 00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:11,060 Speaker 1: Brownie's not at the bar. And so we went and 513 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,629 Speaker 1: got our Subway for breakfast, lunch, and all of a 514 00:21:14,630 --> 00:21:17,230 Speaker 1: sudden out of this big barber shop comes big John Brown, 515 00:21:17,810 --> 00:21:21,410 Speaker 1: him and Tim Donning. I'm going, is that Brownie? And 516 00:21:21,450 --> 00:21:23,310 Speaker 1: what he's done is he's gone to a barber. He's 517 00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: shaved his head bald and had the barbell mohawk like 518 00:21:27,180 --> 00:21:30,100 Speaker 1: full length. Do you ever find out that? 519 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,459 Speaker 4: I'll be able to give it. 520 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:32,540 Speaker 1: I'll be able to find it. 521 00:21:32,619 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 4: I'll be able to give it to you. 522 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,340 Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. Yeah, you had the mohawk and Tim 523 00:21:36,380 --> 00:21:37,220 Speaker 1: Noddy had one too? 524 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,179 Speaker 4: That's right. 525 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,350 Speaker 1: Possum got a peroxide blonde one. Like Mr. T. He 526 00:21:41,369 --> 00:21:42,190 Speaker 1: looks like Mr. T. 527 00:21:42,190 --> 00:21:44,610 Speaker 4: Mr. T. So that was our footy trip haircut. 528 00:21:44,710 --> 00:21:46,750 Speaker 3: Fly, how do you think your old mate is going 529 00:21:46,790 --> 00:21:47,710 Speaker 3: in the media industry? 530 00:21:47,730 --> 00:21:48,310 Speaker 5: Do you like his work? 531 00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:51,410 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going well. No, he's going well. 532 00:21:51,430 --> 00:21:51,850 Speaker 4: What is this? 533 00:21:51,890 --> 00:21:55,340 Speaker 5: Some highlights. And I'll just play you a little grab. 534 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 5: Any criticism you have, bring it up. Just have a listen. 535 00:21:57,700 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: I think he's lost his mojo, hasn't he? 536 00:21:59,340 --> 00:22:01,060 Speaker 6: And they've really been able to do it with a 537 00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:03,500 Speaker 6: makeshift forward line. Charles come from the Gold Coast Suns, 538 00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 6: and obviously Jack. 539 00:22:05,740 --> 00:22:09,510 Speaker 4: Gunston has come back from Brisbane. They've done really well, 540 00:22:09,530 --> 00:22:09,890 Speaker 4: but they. 541 00:22:09,790 --> 00:22:13,669 Speaker 1: Wouldn't... Mate, that wasn't... Good play, Gunston. Mate, that wasn't... No, no, no. 542 00:22:13,710 --> 00:22:16,690 Speaker 4: LAUGHTER That was a G. That was a G. 543 00:22:17,130 --> 00:22:21,140 Speaker 1: I've got a distinctive voice. Any feedback for that, Graeme? 544 00:22:21,260 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: You said, we've lost our aura. That's right, yeah. 545 00:22:25,619 --> 00:22:29,540 Speaker 6: I'm on the way out. Quickly, this is a podcast. Obviously, 546 00:22:29,740 --> 00:22:30,869 Speaker 6: some people do listen to it. 547 00:22:30,869 --> 00:22:33,250 Speaker 1: Yes, mate. We got career best numbers last week. We do. 548 00:22:33,290 --> 00:22:37,570 Speaker 6: Career best numbers. You were a pioneer because you and Acker, 549 00:22:37,690 --> 00:22:39,930 Speaker 6: I think. Did you and Acker have a podcast or 550 00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:40,590 Speaker 6: one of the first ones? 551 00:22:40,590 --> 00:22:43,189 Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't called a podcast. We actually had a 552 00:22:43,260 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: pre-recorded show that went to, yeah, around the country. What? 553 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 4: What was it called? 554 00:22:47,460 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: Accra Macca Show. 555 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 4: Oh! 556 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:50,850 Speaker 3: Oh, boy. 557 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:56,429 Speaker 1: That's amazing. On what station? We went through the– no, 558 00:22:56,450 --> 00:22:57,210 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what now. 559 00:22:57,470 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 4: Was it Triple M? 560 00:22:58,330 --> 00:23:02,470 Speaker 1: No, we ended up there, but it went across mainly Queensland. 561 00:23:02,910 --> 00:23:05,620 Speaker 1: I kill for highlights of the Akramaka show, man. Well, 562 00:23:05,630 --> 00:23:08,540 Speaker 1: there's many highlights. Not many we can put to air. 563 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:09,420 Speaker 4: You kicked off air. 564 00:23:09,660 --> 00:23:11,740 Speaker 1: I know. I said to him only last year. I said, okay, 565 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: you know it was the Akramaka. You know what– if 566 00:23:13,540 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: we didn't now be the Macca and Acacia he didn't like. 567 00:23:16,740 --> 00:23:18,659 Speaker 3: That mate thank you so much for coming in we're 568 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,909 Speaker 3: going to end with 20 questions in 60 seconds oh 569 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,070 Speaker 3: boy okay and hey Beck you might want to get 570 00:23:23,130 --> 00:23:25,710 Speaker 3: a tight shot on his face that's a lot of 571 00:23:25,730 --> 00:23:29,030 Speaker 3: pressure fly this is serious shit okay these questions are 572 00:23:29,050 --> 00:23:30,310 Speaker 3: going to make Ray Martin look. 573 00:23:30,210 --> 00:23:32,270 Speaker 5: Like a putz do you understand okay here we go 574 00:23:32,570 --> 00:23:33,629 Speaker 5: quick answers. 575 00:23:33,820 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: Hey what like can I say more than one word 576 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: absolutely okay. 577 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 5: But we'll move on real. 578 00:23:37,619 --> 00:23:44,170 Speaker 3: Quick dogs or cats cats beer or wine Both. 579 00:23:44,770 --> 00:23:45,610 Speaker 5: God or science? 580 00:23:47,010 --> 00:23:47,410 Speaker 1: Science. 581 00:23:47,890 --> 00:23:48,730 Speaker 5: Kick or hand pass? 582 00:23:49,330 --> 00:23:49,510 Speaker 1: Kick. 583 00:23:49,570 --> 00:23:51,380 Speaker 3: I'm going to turn your mic up so it sounds 584 00:23:51,410 --> 00:23:56,260 Speaker 3: more dramatic. Who's most likely to say a smart-ass comment 585 00:23:56,300 --> 00:23:56,980 Speaker 3: at a team meeting? 586 00:23:57,940 --> 00:23:59,619 Speaker 1: Steel side bottle. Yes. 587 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,540 Speaker 3: Have you ever thought about disabling that stupid annoying camera 588 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 3: in the coach's box? 589 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 6: Yes. 590 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,430 Speaker 5: If you could bring one person back from the dead, 591 00:24:07,450 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 5: who would it be? 592 00:24:08,730 --> 00:24:13,030 Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali. Oh, yes. 593 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,460 Speaker 3: If you could choose between another flag or keeping a 594 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:16,740 Speaker 3: big toe, which would you choose? 595 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:17,740 Speaker 4: A flag. 596 00:24:18,380 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 5: Same question, but with a single testicle. 597 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:25,490 Speaker 1: I'll keep the testicle. 598 00:24:29,290 --> 00:24:31,750 Speaker 2: Who's the coolest celebrity Collingwood fan you've ever met? 599 00:24:31,770 --> 00:24:31,830 Speaker 8: Oh. 600 00:24:33,710 --> 00:24:34,190 Speaker 4: Rob Lowe. 601 00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:38,570 Speaker 1: Oh. She's... No, I'm going to pass on that. 602 00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:39,950 Speaker 5: Do you have a good singing voice? 603 00:24:40,350 --> 00:24:40,530 Speaker 6: No. 604 00:24:41,210 --> 00:24:43,330 Speaker 3: When you're alone in the car with your dog shit 605 00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:45,670 Speaker 3: singing voice, what band do you like to sing to? 606 00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:47,950 Speaker 1: Chili Peppers. Yes. 607 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 5: Do acts of breathtaking kindness make you cry? 608 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:52,220 Speaker 4: Yes. 609 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 3: If you had a dream where you and your partner 610 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,660 Speaker 3: were actual magpies and you had a magpie baby but 611 00:24:58,020 --> 00:24:59,580 Speaker 3: the head of it had a human head and it 612 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 3: was Eddie McGuire. 613 00:25:01,260 --> 00:25:05,310 Speaker 1: Would you tell your therapist? LAUGHTER Yes. 614 00:25:07,570 --> 00:25:08,790 Speaker 5: Do you know what a nipple cripple is? 615 00:25:08,830 --> 00:25:09,230 Speaker 8: Yes. 616 00:25:09,810 --> 00:25:11,700 Speaker 5: Is it true that you once gave the Prime Minister 617 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,500 Speaker 5: a nipple cripple? 618 00:25:12,540 --> 00:25:12,780 Speaker 8: No. 619 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 5: Do you take care of your nipples? 620 00:25:15,369 --> 00:25:15,609 Speaker 4: Yes. 621 00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:18,590 Speaker 3: What dirty drive-through do you eat alone in your car, 622 00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:20,330 Speaker 3: secretly away from your family? 623 00:25:20,530 --> 00:25:23,190 Speaker 1: Lots of Macca's ice creams on the way home. 624 00:25:23,730 --> 00:25:24,580 Speaker 4: Sunday up, brother. 625 00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:27,060 Speaker 5: Ever legally done magic mushrooms? 626 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 8: No. 627 00:25:29,140 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: Do you want to illegally do magic mushrooms? 628 00:25:34,260 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 5: Final question. Favourite Spice Girl? 629 00:25:38,350 --> 00:25:38,790 Speaker 4: Sporty. 630 00:25:38,850 --> 00:25:40,830 Speaker 1: Yeah. There you go, mate. Did all the heavy lifting. 631 00:25:40,869 --> 00:25:42,670 Speaker 1: He's posh every day of the week. Well answered. 632 00:25:42,770 --> 00:25:43,350 Speaker 4: Fly, man. 633 00:25:43,369 --> 00:25:45,179 Speaker 1: We love this so much. Thank you for coming in. 634 00:25:45,390 --> 00:25:45,870 Speaker 4: Thank you, mate. 635 00:25:45,890 --> 00:25:46,470 Speaker 1: Thanks, guys. 636 00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:49,100 Speaker 2: This is Brownies Podcast. Back after the ads. Follow us, too, 637 00:25:49,150 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: at Brownies Podcast. This is Brownies Podcast. 638 00:25:52,580 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 4: We're on holidays. 639 00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. 640 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: If you missed our tribute to Jack Carlson, he's the 641 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 3: succulent Chinese meal guy. He's given us a lot of 642 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: joy as one of the great orators. 643 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,780 Speaker 4: Do not touch my penis. 644 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,110 Speaker 5: Enjoy this tribute. 645 00:26:04,820 --> 00:26:06,869 Speaker 3: But I hate doing this, you guys. We're going to 646 00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:09,070 Speaker 3: start on a very somber tone. 647 00:26:09,230 --> 00:26:09,970 Speaker 5: Oh, no. 648 00:26:10,150 --> 00:26:12,030 Speaker 1: Oh, no. We've lost one of the greats. 649 00:26:13,270 --> 00:26:17,950 Speaker 3: Australia's preeminent meme and our hero, Jack Carlson, 82, valet, 650 00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:20,850 Speaker 3: rest in peace. Dog, what this man has done for 651 00:26:20,869 --> 00:26:24,510 Speaker 3: the English language, what he's done for our hearts, what 652 00:26:24,550 --> 00:26:25,889 Speaker 3: he's done for a nation in many. 653 00:26:25,730 --> 00:26:26,430 Speaker 5: Ways, Brodie, huh? 654 00:26:27,150 --> 00:26:27,430 Speaker 4: He was. 655 00:26:28,570 --> 00:26:31,150 Speaker 1: He was a leader. He was a leader. He was courageous. 656 00:26:31,710 --> 00:26:34,060 Speaker 3: And, Bec, just a reminder to hold the people you 657 00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:36,300 Speaker 3: love close today, you know, because they can be gone 658 00:26:36,340 --> 00:26:36,899 Speaker 3: in an instant. 659 00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:40,700 Speaker 7: They certainly can. And I don't know what Democracy Manifest is. 660 00:26:41,820 --> 00:26:42,780 Speaker 7: I don't think anyone does. 661 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,700 Speaker 6: It's become iconic. It's become a cultural movement. Landmark, hasn't it? 662 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,270 Speaker 5: In light of that. 663 00:26:50,290 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 4: When you think back, when you bring it up. 664 00:26:51,930 --> 00:26:52,230 Speaker 1: Yeah. 665 00:26:52,410 --> 00:26:57,450 Speaker 5: Please enjoy a tribute to Jack Carlson, gone. 82 Vale. 666 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 7: I sit down inside the car. 667 00:26:59,280 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: I'm under arrest. 668 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,139 Speaker 4: Look, I'm under what? 669 00:27:04,180 --> 00:27:09,180 Speaker 8: Gentlemen, this is Democracy Manifest. 670 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 5: You alright, John? 671 00:27:11,220 --> 00:27:17,070 Speaker 1: Democracy. Have a look at the headlock here. 672 00:27:19,150 --> 00:27:20,830 Speaker 4: Get your hand off my penis! 673 00:27:20,850 --> 00:27:23,130 Speaker 1: Get your hand off my penis! Get your hand off 674 00:27:23,170 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: my penis! 675 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 8: This is the bloke who got me on the penis before. 676 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,910 Speaker 8: Why did you do this? For what reason? What is 677 00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:41,659 Speaker 8: the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal? Oh, 678 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 8: that's a nice headlock, sir. Oh, yes. 679 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:52,940 Speaker 9: I see that you know your judo well. And you, sir, 680 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,220 Speaker 9: are you waiting to receive my limp penis? Are you 681 00:27:56,260 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 9: waiting to receive my limp penis? Are you waiting to 682 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,900 Speaker 9: receive my limp penis? 683 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,310 Speaker 1: How dare you get your hand on me? 684 00:28:11,310 --> 00:28:12,609 Speaker 4: Ta-ta! 685 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:14,730 Speaker 5: Point in words, ta-ta. 686 00:28:14,890 --> 00:28:17,609 Speaker 7: That's one of the greatest remixes since Follow the Fish 687 00:28:17,790 --> 00:28:19,169 Speaker 7: or Swedish House Mafia. 688 00:28:19,210 --> 00:28:20,030 Speaker 4: Not a dry eye. 689 00:28:20,510 --> 00:28:22,260 Speaker 6: Not a dry eye in this studio. 690 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,940 Speaker 5: John, I can see that affected you, brother. 691 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 4: It did. Well, I'll be heading... I suggest that we 692 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 4: head out in. 693 00:28:29,420 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 6: I suppose in memoriam and in honour of the great 694 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 6: man Jack Carlson today and have a Chinese meal. Anywhere 695 00:28:34,140 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 6: around Australia, we know that the Chinese restaurant is only 696 00:28:37,460 --> 00:28:40,330 Speaker 6: just around the corner. No matter where you are, drop 697 00:28:40,350 --> 00:28:41,890 Speaker 6: in there, even if it's just a spring roll. 698 00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:43,170 Speaker 4: Maybe even a dumpling. 699 00:28:43,210 --> 00:28:44,550 Speaker 6: If you want to go the whole hog and go 700 00:28:44,570 --> 00:28:47,580 Speaker 6: sweet and sour pork, Or a lemon chicken, my two favourites. 701 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 702 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 6: You know, feel free to do that as well. But 703 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,180 Speaker 6: Jack Carlson, iconic, 82 years young he was. And that 704 00:28:54,790 --> 00:28:57,750 Speaker 6: footage and that audio that Dino's played for us today, 705 00:28:58,070 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 6: that came from outside a Fortitude Valley restaurant in 1991. 706 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 6: Jack Carlson, who was a serial prison escapee. 707 00:29:09,020 --> 00:29:09,570 Speaker 1: A legend. 708 00:29:09,620 --> 00:29:14,290 Speaker 6: A legend. I won't have anything less than that. But also, too, 709 00:29:14,350 --> 00:29:16,780 Speaker 6: he was a theatre. He was a dramatic theatre actor. 710 00:29:19,140 --> 00:29:23,900 Speaker 3: I said a legend, but John said a legend, yes. 711 00:29:24,660 --> 00:29:26,910 Speaker 1: Sorry, Dean. You're not wrong. 712 00:29:26,930 --> 00:29:28,530 Speaker 7: All week I'm just going to say to people, get 713 00:29:28,550 --> 00:29:31,130 Speaker 7: your hand off my penis. 714 00:29:31,390 --> 00:29:32,410 Speaker 1: And wherever you. 715 00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:36,650 Speaker 3: Are around the country, whether it be anywhere, you know. 716 00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:39,270 Speaker 2: Just raise a fried rice to that great. 717 00:29:39,290 --> 00:29:39,770 Speaker 4: Great mess. 718 00:29:40,060 --> 00:29:43,100 Speaker 6: From Perth, wasn't he, Si? I tell you, it was iconic, though. 719 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 6: It stood the test of time. 1991, can you believe it? 720 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,380 Speaker 6: Chris Reason was the reporter. 721 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:47,700 Speaker 8: Yeah. 722 00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:49,490 Speaker 4: So iconic that even. 723 00:29:50,250 --> 00:29:53,130 Speaker 6: The great Darren Flindale, who calls the races in New 724 00:29:53,150 --> 00:29:55,590 Speaker 6: South Wales, at Warwick Farm a couple of years ago, 725 00:29:55,610 --> 00:30:00,410 Speaker 6: there's a horse called Democracy Manifest, and Darren Flindale went 726 00:30:00,450 --> 00:30:01,170 Speaker 6: to work on it. 727 00:30:01,230 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 4: It's written by James McDonald. 728 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 6: It was the favourite, so he thought there's going to 729 00:30:04,460 --> 00:30:06,420 Speaker 6: be a fair opportunity I can have some fun with this. 730 00:30:06,860 --> 00:30:10,239 Speaker 7: Democracy Manifest is getting his split, and McDonald's starting to 731 00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:11,740 Speaker 7: execute his judo there. 732 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,020 Speaker 1: On the favourite. And Democracy Manifest moved up to join 733 00:30:15,060 --> 00:30:18,910 Speaker 1: Italian Informant. They beat off acidity, and then came Real Key. 734 00:30:18,930 --> 00:30:22,150 Speaker 7: It's Democracy Manifest in front with 100 metres to run 735 00:30:22,370 --> 00:30:26,210 Speaker 7: from Italian Informant. But gentlemen, this is Democracy Manifest. 736 00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:28,250 Speaker 9: Succulent Chinese meals all around. 737 00:30:29,290 --> 00:30:31,210 Speaker 1: LAUGHTER It's a great call. 738 00:30:31,450 --> 00:30:34,170 Speaker 7: I'd love to hear commentators do a little bit more 739 00:30:34,210 --> 00:30:37,130 Speaker 7: of that with names of horses and stuff. 740 00:30:37,330 --> 00:30:40,630 Speaker 3: Can you believe that that one minute of audio in 741 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:42,970 Speaker 3: 1991 would just have such a second life and like 742 00:30:43,060 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: international dog? 743 00:30:44,210 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 5: Well, because it's. 744 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: So good and it's just so rogue. Yeah. And makes 745 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: no sense whatsoever. Yeah. 746 00:30:51,060 --> 00:30:55,940 Speaker 4: It doesn't. If you look up on the internet, democracy manifesto. 747 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 4: It's just absolute dribble. 748 00:30:58,540 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 6: Trying to find the meaning of democracy manifest. 749 00:31:01,780 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 4: Good luck. 750 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,900 Speaker 1: Get your hand off my pinot noir. 751 00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:06,460 Speaker 2: Oh, come on. 752 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: That's a great name for a wine. 753 00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: Vale, another tribute to Jack later. 754 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 4: I think it should be a state funeral, Dana. 755 00:31:11,980 --> 00:31:14,090 Speaker 1: Yeah, it should be, mate. If the Premier's listening, get 756 00:31:14,110 --> 00:31:14,710 Speaker 1: your act together. 757 00:31:15,290 --> 00:31:18,270 Speaker 2: I'm not sure which state, but come on. 758 00:31:18,550 --> 00:31:22,050 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be Queensland, so Anastasia Palaszczuk. Free catering. 759 00:31:22,090 --> 00:31:22,950 Speaker 4: No, she's gone. 760 00:31:26,730 --> 00:31:28,340 Speaker 2: What are we serving with the free catering? 761 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,060 Speaker 1: It's got to be Chinese. 762 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: It's got to be, man. 763 00:31:31,340 --> 00:31:33,110 Speaker 1: It has to be. 764 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,710 Speaker 2: This is Brownies Podcast. Back after the ads. Follow us, too, 765 00:31:35,770 --> 00:31:39,130 Speaker 2: at Brownies Podcast. Hey, we're done for the year. 766 00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:41,190 Speaker 3: Degenerates, we've had so much fun. Thank you for listening. 767 00:31:41,210 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 3: Especially thank you to our WhatsApp thread. 768 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:43,620 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 769 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 5: The OG listeners. But this little show is growing. 770 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,300 Speaker 2: It's growing. 771 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 3: It is. 772 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,660 Speaker 7: Thanks for listening, and we'll come back bigger and better 773 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:49,940 Speaker 7: next year. 774 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 4: We love you, Degenerates. No doubts. 775 00:31:51,340 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 6: We'll get a listener party going next year. No question 776 00:31:53,740 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 6: about it. Sorry we couldn't get that done because Brown 777 00:31:55,980 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 6: Dog never turns up to them, so we're a bit 778 00:31:57,860 --> 00:31:59,260 Speaker 6: concerned about committing. 779 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: And we ran out of budget because of the lawyer fees. 780 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,500 Speaker 4: You're correct. That's right. 781 00:32:03,540 --> 00:32:04,260 Speaker 1: They were expensive. 782 00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: See you later. 783 00:32:04,940 --> 00:32:05,190 Speaker 4: See you.