Speaker 1: Why On Sky News Australia. This is de Nika di Giorgio.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the program. Coming up tonight, Anthony
Speaker 2: Alberesi gets a reality check from real people as the
Speaker 2: Bush fights back against Labour's reckless energy policies.
Speaker 3: The cheapest form of new energy is renewables.
Speaker 4: Plus.
Speaker 2: The PM reveals when he'll meet with Donald Trump, you
Speaker 2: won't believe his laughable answer, and the Hunt for Desi
Speaker 2: Freeman enters day four as the AFP joins a search
Speaker 2: for the accused killer. But first tonight, The Bush fought
Speaker 2: back today against Anthony Albanesi's reckless energy policies and the
Speaker 2: damage caused by Labour's net zero magic carpet ride. Farmers
Speaker 2: did not hold back at The Herald's Sons Bush Summit
Speaker 2: in Ballarat, Victoria, as the PM took to the stage
Speaker 2: to answer questions by.
Speaker 5: A regional communities paying the cost for renewable energy?
Speaker 4: Where is the social license?
Speaker 6: Where is the regulation to protect our communities, value our
Speaker 6: farmland and preserve our environment? How can state and federal
Speaker 6: governments justify enabling companies like squad and.
Speaker 4: Energy to tear our communities.
Speaker 3: Apart so that there hasn't been a new cul fire
Speaker 3: power station begun for this century.
Speaker 1: That's just the truth.
Speaker 3: And there hasn't been any regulations stopping that. There is
Speaker 3: still nothing stopping that. Now someone wants to build a
Speaker 3: coal fire power station, they can go and do it.
Speaker 1: It hasn't happened.
Speaker 3: It hasn't happened because the markets term that doesn't stack up.
Speaker 1: We need ladies and gentlemen. Please.
Speaker 2: Well, he couldn't escape this, could he. Firstly, farmers are
Speaker 2: the collateral damage caught up in the race to renewables.
Speaker 2: Reckless governments want to carve up the land under the
Speaker 2: guise of saving the land from climate change. Make that
Speaker 2: make sense. And secondly, Anthony Albanezi is totally talking nonsense.
Speaker 2: Labor is shutting down coal plants with no plan B
Speaker 2: for energy generation to keep the lights on in this country.
Speaker 2: The Australian Energy Market Operator has warned the slow rollout
Speaker 2: of keyholes and wire projects will severely limit the amount
Speaker 2: of power big renewables can produce to replace Australia's soon
Speaker 2: to be shut coal plants and g it just got
Speaker 2: worse from there.
Speaker 3: For the PM, we do need energy, and the cheapest
Speaker 3: form of new energy is renewables.
Speaker 1: So that's the first point that I'll make.
Speaker 3: The science told us that climate change was real.
Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen, We'll have to stop if you keep interjecting.
Speaker 3: Told us that the science was real, and we are
Speaker 3: seeing we are seeing what the science told us would happen,
Speaker 3: which is more extreme weather events and more intense We've
Speaker 3: seen cyclones in nontropical areas like off the New South
Speaker 3: Wales north coast and off the Queensland coast. We're seeing
Speaker 3: an incret at the moment. We have drought, we have flooding,
Speaker 3: we have impact in South Australia and impact in Western Australia.
Speaker 3: People need to be treated with respect at and that
Speaker 3: is and that is what I am doing through my
Speaker 3: presence here, and I'll continue to engage.
Speaker 1: But I won't bullshit people.
Speaker 3: I won't say I won't say.
Speaker 2: Well, imagine going to the regions and professing climate change
Speaker 2: and the science. How tone deaf and out of touch
Speaker 2: is this guy in regional New South Wales right now
Speaker 2: there are plans to put up wind farms at a
Speaker 2: height of two hundred and seventy meters. It is literally
Speaker 2: ripping local towns apart over in Victoria, legislation past this
Speaker 2: week where farmers can be fined if they don't allow
Speaker 2: transmission workers onto their private property.
Speaker 4: So who is bsing? Who Prime Minister?
Speaker 2: Because I would say he is bsing all of us.
Speaker 2: We were told our bills were going to go down
Speaker 2: under renewables. Instead they are up by one thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: We were told we were going to get two hundred
Speaker 2: and seventy five dollars in energy bill relief. Instead that
Speaker 2: pledge disappeared into the never never. We were told labor
Speaker 2: has a plan to keep the lights on instead the
Speaker 2: heat of summer. We were told in New South Wales
Speaker 2: to turn off our appliances because the grid was not
Speaker 2: coping and the East Coast.
Speaker 4: Could run out of gas by next year.
Speaker 2: We were told Labour is on track to meet energy targets. Instead,
Speaker 2: experts warn Australia is on track to miss targets because
Speaker 2: of low investment and output in grid scale solar and wind.
Speaker 2: And not to mention, Australia needs ten thousand kilometers of
Speaker 2: high voltage transmission lines by twenty fifty, but the project
Speaker 2: is so far behind only half of it will be
Speaker 2: delivered in the next decade. And the cost of course
Speaker 2: will inevitably be passed on to consumers on top of
Speaker 2: every other energy increase under this government. And of course
Speaker 2: we were told we were building our renewables energy future.
Speaker 2: Instead I have lost count at the amount of projects
Speaker 2: which have gone bust or have been delayed in the
Speaker 2: last few months alone around the country.
Speaker 4: So again I will ask.
Speaker 2: The question who who is b s ing who Prime Minister?
Speaker 2: And then it was Victorian Premier just into Alan's turn
Speaker 2: to make her speech at the Bush Summit today and
Speaker 2: Gia went down like a lead balloon.
Speaker 8: Families, farmers, small business owners, to many.
Speaker 4: Many are doing it tough. Some of it is because
Speaker 4: of nature. Some of it is because of nature.
Speaker 9: The bush gives you something you simply can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 4: The fresh air, the quiet, the space. And that's why.
Speaker 5: Also we're supporting renewable energy projects as well that are
Speaker 5: driving investment.
Speaker 2: I mean, surely she had to expect this, and I
Speaker 2: think that this farmer really summed up the sentiment. Just
Speaker 2: into Alan is holding farmers at ransom, the noose around
Speaker 2: their necks, whether it be renewable energy zones, transmission lines,
Speaker 2: the emergency services tax.
Speaker 4: Once again as we're seeing around the country.
Speaker 2: It's the regions and the farmers, not the wealthy city
Speaker 2: elites whose lives are being destroyed by net zero. Labor
Speaker 2: is out running a tricky and dodgy experiment of transmission lines,
Speaker 2: giant wind turbines, green hydrogen, solar farms, and batteries. So PM,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, how about you listen to your
Speaker 2: own words, stop your own bs.
Speaker 4: And secure our future.
Speaker 2: Well, the Prime Minister has finally given us confirmation on
Speaker 2: when he will meet with US President Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Well, when you see it on your screens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's confirmed.
Speaker 4: Oh good good, blink and you'll miss it.
Speaker 2: You'll find out if a meeting has been scheduled when
Speaker 2: you see it on your screens. So, in other words,
Speaker 2: there is no update, nada. There are still no formal
Speaker 2: plans for a meeting with our number one ally and
Speaker 2: ALBO is quite touchy on the subject. Haven't listened to
Speaker 2: his reaction. Would asked if Defense Minister Richard Miles was
Speaker 2: in Washington this week to try and broker that very meeting.
Speaker 3: Things that become an issue that just aren't. He went
Speaker 3: to the United States, he met the Vice President, he
Speaker 3: met the Defense Secretary. He met senior people in the
Speaker 3: Trump administration, and that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: And then he came home. That's a good thing.
Speaker 2: Well, it just seems that everyone's having White House meetings
Speaker 2: except for Albow. According to The Australian, Richard Miles was
Speaker 2: rushed to Washington for high level talks with US Vice
Speaker 2: President JD.
Speaker 4: Vance to reassure the White House.
Speaker 2: That Australia would lift its defense spending and pave the
Speaker 2: way for a meeting between Anthony Alberesi and Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: And last month, you recall Penny Wong was also rushed
Speaker 2: to Washington, DC as well on some sort of weird
Speaker 2: peacekeeping mission, and she came back empty handed. And look,
Speaker 2: who knows what even happened with Miles over there. Richard
Speaker 2: Miles claims that he had a formal meeting with his
Speaker 2: US counterpart, Pete Hegseth. Miles's office published an Instagram post
Speaker 2: showing the two of them photographed together alongside JD. Vance,
Speaker 2: but a US Defense official said, we can confirm that
Speaker 2: there was not a meeting.
Speaker 4: It was a happenstance encounter.
Speaker 2: And then hours later, the Chief Pentagon spokesperson, Sean Parnell
Speaker 2: told the Guardian that the encounter was in fact a meeting,
Speaker 2: walking back that previous statement and confirming it was coordinated
Speaker 2: in advance. But gee, this just shows to me sheer
Speaker 2: desperation by the Albenese government to try and shore up
Speaker 2: the relationship. And so really ALBINIZI is embarrassingly banking on
Speaker 2: a series of upcoming summers in the hope of catching
Speaker 2: up with Trump.
Speaker 3: It's summer season, which sounds glamorous, but isn't you spend
Speaker 3: more time on a plane than you do on the land.
Speaker 3: And so we have a range of meetings, whether it's
Speaker 3: a UN General Assembly as an APEC, so we'll be
Speaker 3: running into each other regularly.
Speaker 2: Running into each other like a casual hallway meeting. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's not the same as a formal sit down meeting.
Speaker 2: But then again, this isn't the first time the PM
Speaker 2: has gasled us into thinking that he's got it all
Speaker 2: under control.
Speaker 1: When we have a meeting, we'll have a meeting. Well,
Speaker 1: of course we will meetings.
Speaker 3: It'll be a range of meetings between now and the
Speaker 3: end of the year with President Trump.
Speaker 1: The confidence.
Speaker 3: I refer to my previous five three and twenty four
Speaker 3: entries to that same question.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Look, it all comes down to leadership in the end,
Speaker 2: doesn't it. So Albo can keep flying ministers over on
Speaker 2: bridging the gap meetings. The more he equivocates, the bigger
Speaker 2: the gap between our alliance gets. Let's go straight to
Speaker 2: Shadow Cabinet Secretary Andrew Wallace. Now, good to see you
Speaker 2: as always, andrews. I'll get to that meeting in a moment,
Speaker 2: but I want to start firstly with the scenes that
Speaker 2: we saw at the Herald sun Bush summit today where
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister was heckled by angry farmers over net zero.
Speaker 2: The PM says that he won't bs people on the
Speaker 2: issue his words, not mine.
Speaker 4: Is he.
Speaker 8: The election in twenty twenty two when he promised Australians
Speaker 8: on no less than ninety seven occasions that we were
Speaker 8: going to get a two hundred and seventy five dollars
Speaker 8: power reduction if all we did was just follow his lead.
Speaker 8: And clearly the electorate sucked it up.
Speaker 1: They voted for Anthony Albanesi and Labor and what have
Speaker 1: we got.
Speaker 8: We've got power bills which are now more than a
Speaker 8: thousand dollars than what we're expecting. So austrangs are doing
Speaker 8: a tough power bills have gone up. We had the
Speaker 8: figures come up during the week thirty nine percent. Gas
Speaker 8: has gone up by thirty eight percent. And it's only
Speaker 8: because now that the subsidies the Commonwealth government, now the
Speaker 8: election's over, the Commonwealth government subsidies are coming off that
Speaker 8: people are staying to feel the real pain in.
Speaker 1: These utility prices.
Speaker 8: The strangers have been sold a pup and I think
Speaker 8: they've all got buyers remorse.
Speaker 2: I agree, but even with the subsidies, I mean, it
Speaker 2: was just a case of you and I paying each
Speaker 2: other's energy bills, so it was never going to be
Speaker 2: the solutions to all of this in the first place.
Speaker 2: So I completely agree, and I see why farmers are angry.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: Look, as I just mentioned, who knows what was going
Speaker 2: on with Richard Marles and his alleged meetings in Washington,
Speaker 2: But it all seems to be part of this ploy
Speaker 2: to get Anthony Albanezi a meeting with Donald Trump. How
Speaker 2: many ministers is the Prime Minister sending over there? Why
Speaker 2: can't he put his big boy pants on and get
Speaker 2: on a plane to DC himself.
Speaker 8: Well, I think there's actually a legitimate question as to
Speaker 8: whether he really honestly wants a meeting with Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: You know, he says he does.
Speaker 8: He says he's trying to hook up this meeting. But
Speaker 8: it's been now two hundred and ninety six days since
Speaker 8: President Trump took office, and we are supposed to be
Speaker 8: one of, if not the closest ally of the United States.
Speaker 8: They certainly are to us, and yet President Trump and
Speaker 8: the Prime Minister can't seem to get a meeting together.
Speaker 8: But I think the Prime Minister is actually running scared
Speaker 8: here because he does not want an Oval office meeting
Speaker 8: like what happened to President Zelenski. He does, and mind
Speaker 8: you that the President would have a lot to attack
Speaker 8: the Prime Minister on his pos in relation to defense
Speaker 8: expenditure and the recognition of Fealestine.
Speaker 1: I think the Prime.
Speaker 8: Minister is very, very worried about an Oval office meeting.
Speaker 2: I completely agree with you, is absolutely terrified.
Speaker 4: But in the end, does he want to bridge the
Speaker 4: gap or not? That's the question. Now. Look, Iran's envoy
Speaker 4: had a job. That's his job. It's a leadership thing.
Speaker 2: Iran's envoy has left the country after being expelled this week.
Speaker 4: Of course, amid.
Speaker 2: Revelations around orchestrated anti Semitic attacks. He referred on X
Speaker 2: to quote the occupation, apartheid and genocide by the illegitimate
Speaker 2: Israeli regime and that at the airport there were quite
Speaker 2: wild scenes.
Speaker 4: Have a listen and Massa, how do.
Speaker 5: You feel being expelled from Australia? Nothing in particular part
Speaker 5: of the job.
Speaker 1: Pack of stenographers.
Speaker 8: You repeat the lines of the Australian government.
Speaker 1: You should be better than that.
Speaker 4: You be aware of government's alleged involvement in these activities.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not so you would be sleiss.
Speaker 4: Acquisition Andrew, what do you make of this?
Speaker 2: And has labor gone far enough to defend this country
Speaker 2: against the attacks bay Iran?
Speaker 8: Well, there's been a lot said this week Deneka about
Speaker 8: labors in action, but let's just look at it again.
Speaker 8: We have been calling out senior leaders of the coalition
Speaker 8: have been calling out for the IRGC, the Iranian Revolutionary
Speaker 8: Guard Corps to be listed as a terrorist organization for
Speaker 8: two and a half years, you know. And some people
Speaker 8: might say, well, what's the benefit in them doing that
Speaker 8: or this strain government doing that.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the benefit is.
Speaker 8: It is actually once a listed terrorist organization is enacted
Speaker 8: in the law, it's illegal to provide direct or indirect
Speaker 8: financial support or any type of other support to a
Speaker 8: listed terrorist organization. So all of these groups and individuals
Speaker 8: that are out they're flying hes Bala or Hamas or
Speaker 8: the Iranian flags, if it's a listed terrorist organization, then
Speaker 8: they would be committing very very serious offenses because they're
Speaker 8: supporting a listed terrorist organization.
Speaker 1: I think our law enforcement at a state.
Speaker 8: Level needs to really crack down harder on this. But
Speaker 8: I tell you what's really concerning me is that there's
Speaker 8: this significant unease. Now we've got a foreign state actor
Speaker 8: that has committed the most egregious foreign influence attacks and
Speaker 8: terrorist attacks in Australia. They're trying to break down social
Speaker 8: cohesion in Australia. And yet this is the same country
Speaker 8: that provides financial support to Hamas, and this is the
Speaker 8: same organization that is running Gaza, to which the Prime
Speaker 8: Minister are only two weeks ago has said, well, you
Speaker 8: know they want to reward Hamas with Palestinian recognition.
Speaker 2: Well, and not just Humas Hesbala, the Hoodi Rebels as well.
Speaker 4: It's all been financed by Iran.
Speaker 2: So that's why it's batchels me that the PMS equivocated
Speaker 2: on this. Andrew Wallace, We've got to leave it there.
Speaker 2: Good to see he was always Thanks so much for
Speaker 2: joining me. Well look, let's turn now to the hunt
Speaker 2: for accused killer Desi Freeman, four days after he allegedly
Speaker 2: shot and killed two police officers in Victoria's High Country.
Speaker 2: Let's go live now to our reporter Georgie Dickinson, who's
Speaker 2: in Poor Punker this evening.
Speaker 4: Georgie, what's the latest.
Speaker 10: Good evening to you, Zanika.
Speaker 9: Well, the latest is this man hunt is still on
Speaker 9: for Desi Freeman. It has now been eighty hours since
Speaker 9: he was last seen and police have been trying to
Speaker 9: hunt him down over the past eighty hours, but still
Speaker 9: he is at large. Now one of the major developments
Speaker 9: that we have seen is overnight there was a raid
Speaker 9: on a property in Poor Punker and after raid we
Speaker 9: saw a woman in a teenager be arrested. Now those
Speaker 9: people are Deisi Freeman's wife and his teenage son. They
Speaker 9: were arrested. They were taken into questioning by authorities. They
Speaker 9: have not faced any charges at this stage, but then
Speaker 9: they were later released. But this just gives you a
Speaker 9: sense of the lengths police officers are going to to
Speaker 9: ensure they can track down the man allegedly responsible for
Speaker 9: the killing of those two police officers on Tuesday morning,
Speaker 9: Neil Thompson and the Dim Devat. But they have been
Speaker 9: tackling some very torrential conditions. As you can say, it
Speaker 9: has just started raining and it really hasn't stopped raining
Speaker 9: since Tuesday morning. Just about an hour ago we were
Speaker 9: hit with lightning, wind and hail, So there's certainly not
Speaker 9: prime conditions for authorities that are trying to track down
Speaker 9: this accused killer. But we did hear from the Chief Commissioner,
Speaker 9: Mike Bush a little earlier on today we are.
Speaker 11: Not leaving here until this person is in custody. In fact,
Speaker 11: if that person is listening, it really is time to
Speaker 11: lay down your firearms and give yourself up.
Speaker 9: Last night we saw memorials for those fallen officers at
Speaker 9: the local police station where they were both working at
Speaker 9: the time that they were killed. And so, Danika, the
Speaker 9: hunt is certainly still on for Desi Freeman. As I mentioned,
Speaker 9: it has just started raining again for another night. We've
Speaker 9: seen special operations coming in and out of here all
Speaker 9: day this afternoon, we saw the police shopper up again,
Speaker 9: and just moments ago we saw a convoy of cars
Speaker 9: enter this mobile command center here behind me, all.
Speaker 2: Right, George, you really appreciate your updates.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Let's get more analysis on this now.
Speaker 2: Joining me is Victoria's shadow police minister, David Southwick.
Speaker 4: David, thank you for your time.
Speaker 2: Let's start with the deadly police shooting and this ongoing
Speaker 2: manhunt Adams. We've just heard clearly police are throwing all
Speaker 2: of its resources into finding this man.
Speaker 12: Grad to be with you, Denika. Look, this is such
Speaker 12: a tragedy. You've got two police officers killed in the
Speaker 12: way that they have been killed. You've got obviously all
Speaker 12: police resourcing being thrown at this particular event right now.
Speaker 12: And I've visited a number of stations today and met
Speaker 12: with a number of police officers that are absolutely gutted
Speaker 12: at the moment that they don't know where to put themselves.
Speaker 12: I mean, it's such a tragedy, but they're putting on
Speaker 12: their uniforms and they're going to work and they're doing
Speaker 12: what they have to do. A number of police have
Speaker 12: been asked to go in and replace shifts in Port Punkah.
Speaker 12: So you've got police right across the state that are
Speaker 12: being recruited on this particular manhunt at the moment, and
Speaker 12: they just want to see an into this. It is
Speaker 12: a horrific situation. It's a shame also that it's taken
Speaker 12: a tragedy like this to bring people together, which they have.
Speaker 12: Police have been overwhelmed with flowers and tributes to the
Speaker 12: very stations. We had one situation where a principal brought
Speaker 12: a number of their kids to the station. The principle
Speaker 12: broke down in tears and hugg the police. At the moment.
Speaker 12: It's a terrible time, but it's a stark reminder how
Speaker 12: dangerous the job is and also what an important job
Speaker 12: Victoria Police do in keeping us all safe.
Speaker 4: Oh look, absolutely spot on.
Speaker 2: And I just want to talk about resourcing because I
Speaker 2: know that this weekend there's a pro Palestine rally in Melbourne,
Speaker 2: but there's also an anti immigration rally at the same time.
Speaker 2: Is this going to be taking away frontline resourcess from
Speaker 2: this man hunt?
Speaker 12: Absolutely? Denika and police said to me today, give us
Speaker 12: a break. You know what is happening is, as I've
Speaker 12: just said, you've got police being asked to a ten
Speaker 12: Port punker to find this individual, and at the same
Speaker 12: time police also need to come from right across the
Speaker 12: state to babysit these protesters and police just want the
Speaker 12: opportunity to focus on their job and a break from
Speaker 12: the traumas that they're having to deal. As I've said,
Speaker 12: on many occasions, we've had some twenty two thousand eight
Speaker 12: hour police shifts just to run these protests. Victoria the
Speaker 12: protest capital in the nation. Everyone should have a right
Speaker 12: to protest, but I think wake up to those protesters
Speaker 12: right now, Now is not the time you want to
Speaker 12: have the opportunity to do it. Do it once we've
Speaker 12: found this this killer, this murderer. That's what should happen
Speaker 12: right now.
Speaker 1: And I think.
Speaker 12: It's just bad form for anybody wants to protest at
Speaker 12: a time when police should be focused on catching this killer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt officers are going to be stretched once again,
Speaker 2: but right now it's just the worst timing.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: Look, David, we saw very angry scenes today at the
Speaker 2: Herald sun Bush Summer in Ballarat. Farmers heckled both the
Speaker 2: Prime Minister and Premier just into Alan Overnet zero.
Speaker 4: Just this week, legislation that will.
Speaker 2: Slap Victorian farmers with massive fines if they block transmission
Speaker 2: companies from actsessing their land pass through the Upper House.
Speaker 4: That's surely a huge blow to farmers.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 12: It is on top of the emergency services tax that
Speaker 12: they're being hit with. Farmers Feed Us and the fact
Speaker 12: that our farmers have been completely neglected both federally and
Speaker 12: state by their leaders and now being told that people
Speaker 12: can just come on to their land forget about you
Speaker 12: know that it's your land, and just do what they
Speaker 12: like and if you don't do it, they'll cut the
Speaker 12: padlocks and they'll find you. That's not what should be happening.
Speaker 12: We would reverse that under a liberal national government going forward,
Speaker 12: and we said farmers should have rights on their land.
Speaker 12: Farmers should be able to go about their business, and
Speaker 12: certainly if governments want to be able to bring power
Speaker 12: lines and whatever on the land, they should be working
Speaker 12: with farmers, not telling them what they're going to do
Speaker 12: and forcing them into it.
Speaker 4: No, I completely agree with you.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the farmers that are really the collateral
Speaker 2: damage right now for this net zero crusade. But you go,
Speaker 2: I just want to ask you about Justinta Allen's plans
Speaker 2: for treaty negotiations with the First Nations People Assembly wrapped
Speaker 2: up this week. Now you're vowing not to support this
Speaker 2: legislation which was meant to be introduced into Parliament.
Speaker 4: This week but it's been delayed.
Speaker 2: But I just think the main concern really is that
Speaker 2: Victorians don't know what this treaty means. There's nothing on
Speaker 2: the table, but Victoria's premiere is forging ahead well.
Speaker 12: In all of the tragedies that we're dealing with at
Speaker 12: the moment, we should be trying to unite people and
Speaker 12: not divide them, and that's what this is doing. It
Speaker 12: won't close the gap, it won't fix a single thing.
Speaker 12: It will just create another bureaucracy that we don't need
Speaker 12: right now. And all the Jesus Cinderellan is doing is
Speaker 12: trying to divert away from the situations, the crime, the debt,
Speaker 12: the state of disrepair that Victoria is in right now.
Speaker 12: And just Cinderellen should wake up to herself, stop dividing
Speaker 12: Victorians and start uniting them and let's ensure in a
Speaker 12: cost of living crisis people can afford to put on
Speaker 12: the table. And this is not the way to be
Speaker 12: able to go about doing it. We had a voice
Speaker 12: referendum that failed. We all need to move on. Sure,
Speaker 12: we need to do more to help our indigenous communities.
Speaker 12: This won't do a single.
Speaker 2: Thing, No it won't. And you know, just get this
Speaker 2: sense that it's victorians. I'm going to be paying for this,
Speaker 2: and the state's already in.
Speaker 4: A lot of debt.
Speaker 2: So let's see what happens. David Southwick, good to see
Speaker 2: you again, Thanks so much for joining ours the show.
Speaker 2: We're coming up after the break my panel. We'll discuss
Speaker 2: Tony Burk's double standards condemning planned anti immigration rallies this weekend.
Speaker 2: Joining me now is Skytys contributor Tina McQueen and New
Speaker 2: South Wales Independent MP Tanya Mahalo. Hi to both of
Speaker 2: you as always, thanks for joining me. Now we've got
Speaker 2: to start, of course with the Bush summit that we
Speaker 2: saw today where the Prime Minister and Justinta Allen were heckled.
Speaker 3: Have a look and I'll continue to engage, but I
Speaker 3: won't bullshit people. I won't say I won't.
Speaker 5: Say courting renewable energy projects as well, but a driving investment.
Speaker 2: And it was so bad the Prime Minister was even
Speaker 2: chased out of town by farmers on tractors.
Speaker 4: Well they didn't want him there, did they, Tina.
Speaker 6: No, And finally some pushback, you know, thankfully. And now
Speaker 6: he must know what it feels like to only get
Speaker 6: thirty four percent of the vote. You know, the penny
Speaker 6: maa farmily dropped. It really rattled him. I could tell
Speaker 6: he was really rattled, you know. But we've had the news,
Speaker 6: the the West Australian and the Queensland Liberal Party, I've
Speaker 6: all put motions to withdraw from Paris, stop them their zero.
Speaker 6: So this was ant unexpected, this reaction. But look, I
Speaker 6: think it was wonderful to see that's some honesty, honest
Speaker 6: reaction from the public, not some sanitized viewing area. So
Speaker 6: it was good good to see him under pressure. I
Speaker 6: do it is going to change anything in the gaul
Speaker 6: of him to just say, you know, how const effective
Speaker 6: wind farms were. I mean, why do you think people
Speaker 6: are just going to see they're not?
Speaker 4: When the science he was talking about the change have
Speaker 4: tone death is it.
Speaker 6: Exactly when these people a lot of their lives have
Speaker 6: been ruined by wind farms and you know, transmission.
Speaker 2: Grids exactly believe and it really is the farmers who
Speaker 2: are suffering from this race to renewables. They're the ones
Speaker 2: who've got these hideous transmission lines raising their properties. And
Speaker 2: you don't hear in New South Wales there's that fight
Speaker 2: in the regional town because they've got wind farms of
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy meters going up, so it's literally
Speaker 2: ripping towns apart.
Speaker 4: Tenure.
Speaker 13: Well, i've got to say watching that footage, my first
Speaker 13: thoughts were, hell, hath no fury like a farmer's score.
Speaker 4: Yes, so true.
Speaker 13: They have really come out fighting and our bridge was
Speaker 13: fantastic to see and look they've got a fight. They've
Speaker 13: got to fight because it's about their survival. They're being
Speaker 13: hit from every angle when it comes to this government.
Speaker 13: Their prime agricultural land is being pushed into a forced
Speaker 13: upon them to make it renewable lands and solar and
Speaker 13: wind farms everywhere.
Speaker 10: They're now getting fined.
Speaker 13: The just sint al And government has announced that if
Speaker 13: you don't accept transmission lines onto your farm proper, you
Speaker 13: will be fined up to ten two one thousand dollars
Speaker 13: as outrageous.
Speaker 4: On top of that super tax.
Speaker 13: Okay, if you've got farms now thirty percent tax on
Speaker 13: unrealized paper games. So they've attacked from an angle. And
Speaker 13: of course high energy prices are costing the viability of
Speaker 13: these farms.
Speaker 10: Farms just can't operate.
Speaker 13: Like this, and you've got they've got to find Susan.
Speaker 6: He said all the right things today, but not a
Speaker 6: single policy. Now, with her opportunity, she should have said
Speaker 6: we will withdraw from.
Speaker 2: Well, she was asked about it, and she's housed on it,
Speaker 2: and she didn't have an art.
Speaker 4: She did not have an answer on it.
Speaker 13: They're not going to change's out of the moderate liberals.
Speaker 6: They're not going to She's not even a moderate. She's
Speaker 6: got no convictions at all.
Speaker 4: She's worse than a moderate.
Speaker 2: No, she's not going to change a policy to appease
Speaker 2: the MODERATESI it's very very clear, But I'm going to
Speaker 2: say here is an example of real leadership. Have a
Speaker 2: listened to the US President on wind farms this week.
Speaker 12: They're ugly, they don't work, they kill your birds, they're
Speaker 12: bad for the environment, and if you look.
Speaker 7: At them from a house, your house is worth less
Speaker 7: than fifty percent.
Speaker 14: So I'm trying to have.
Speaker 4: People learn about wind real fast.
Speaker 7: And I think I've done a good job, but not
Speaker 7: good enough because some countries are.
Speaker 8: Still trying and they're destroying themselves.
Speaker 1: Those are countries that are really destroying themselves.
Speaker 14: I hope they get back to fossil fuel.
Speaker 4: I mean, spot on.
Speaker 2: What a shame, Tina that our prime minister doesn't share
Speaker 2: that common said.
Speaker 6: Well, I assure you that our prime minister's comments will
Speaker 6: be forwarded to the President's office, so he knows exactly
Speaker 6: where Albaneazy stands and the difference in their two views.
Speaker 12: You know, like.
Speaker 6: A wonderful just common sense policies, like what a great leader.
Speaker 2: Well, remember he went to the UK a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago and he said it in front of the
Speaker 2: It was from the European Council, who I mean, look,
Speaker 2: Europe's gone absolutely nuts with wind farms. But he said
Speaker 2: it to them that they are complete waste of place.
Speaker 13: Was ugly in France, you know, that's what he said.
Speaker 13: But he knows that he's got a big battle himself
Speaker 13: because it's the inner city elites in the US, very
Speaker 13: similar to our situation, that are imposing these wind farms
Speaker 13: on the regional rural communities.
Speaker 4: It's got the same problem.
Speaker 13: I was in New York Upstate New York recently where
Speaker 13: you had farmers there are fighting back.
Speaker 4: But New York.
Speaker 13: City all the legislators there want wind farms. So he
Speaker 13: knows the problem he has. He knows the ugly. We
Speaker 13: know the ugly. But like it's a battle for us,
Speaker 13: it's a battle in the US as well.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, the absolute monstrosities, as I said, two hundred and
Speaker 2: seventy meter wind farms up in going up in New
Speaker 2: South Wales.
Speaker 6: Absolutely staring size of Santa Point tasn Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just out of control. Now that we've
Speaker 4: got to talk about.
Speaker 2: The Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke and the Multicultural Affairs
Speaker 2: Minister An Ali both issued a joint statement this week
Speaker 2: condemning planned anti immigration rallies this weekend, saying there is
Speaker 2: no place in our country for people who seek to
Speaker 2: divide and undermine our social cohesion. We stand with Modern
Speaker 2: Australia against these rallies. Nothing could be less Australian. Well,
Speaker 2: let's talk about what's more or less Australian.
Speaker 4: We can week out Teina.
Speaker 2: We have seen these anti Israel protests, terror flags being
Speaker 2: being flown around the country. You've got the eye of
Speaker 2: Toller of Iran, his portrait being hurld down the Harbor
Speaker 2: Bridge and holding the Australian flags, the anti Australia.
Speaker 6: Those protests they go up Market street, the trams are
Speaker 6: stopped a stopped, while they have right away every single weekend.
Speaker 6: I can't believe the hypocrisy in these people. It makes
Speaker 6: me sick. You know, if they really don't want these rallies,
Speaker 6: cancel all those rallies, it's disgraceful.
Speaker 2: Well, I just think Tony Burk's looking after his own electric.
Speaker 13: Of course he is, He absolutely is looking after his
Speaker 13: own electric, but at what expense. I mean, I can't
Speaker 13: believe that he could make a statement to suggest these
Speaker 13: rallies are going to be on Australia and the idea
Speaker 13: that they're in some respects frightening certain communities too and
Speaker 13: making it think that there's something.
Speaker 4: Terrible about these rallies.
Speaker 13: Look, let's have a look at David Chrisaveli in Queensland.
Speaker 13: He hasn't condemned them, he's a multicultural minister, has refused to.
Speaker 10: Condemn them, and I noticed New South Wales.
Speaker 13: Premier and the state Multicultural Minister have not followed Tony
Speaker 13: Burkean and Ali in condemning these rallies. So I think
Speaker 13: they're out on their own to some extent Tony Burkean
Speaker 13: and Ali in terms of condemning this, because everybody else
Speaker 13: can see that this is just an opportunity for people
Speaker 13: to come together who want to share a passion and
Speaker 13: love for Australia and it doesn't matter what they're buying.
Speaker 13: Is I think there were a lot of people have
Speaker 13: multicultural background that will be at these rallies.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 2: But the thing is what's happened right now in our
Speaker 2: country is if you wave the Australian flag you're passionate
Speaker 2: about this country, suddenly you're labeled far right. It's not
Speaker 2: far right to love your country. It's not far right
Speaker 2: to be waving the Australian flag. We should be proud
Speaker 2: of our flag.
Speaker 6: On the extreamers to be pron o flag.
Speaker 4: No, but that's a problem.
Speaker 2: And I just feel like that joint statement implied that
Speaker 2: you demonizing people.
Speaker 4: I just think it's you know, again, Tody.
Speaker 2: Burke wants to have a look at what's un Australian,
Speaker 2: have a look at the madness going on with these
Speaker 2: pro Palestine protests. Week in week out, so big weekend ahead,
Speaker 2: no doubt. Tenam Acqueen Tanya Mahalo. Good to see you
Speaker 2: both as always. Thank you so much for joining me
Speaker 2: on the show. We'll stay with us. Coming up after
Speaker 2: the break, we'll go live to London for more details
Speaker 2: on Nigel Faraja's plans for mass deportations. Plus i'll speak
Speaker 2: with National's leader David Little Proud. He was in the
Speaker 2: audience today watching on as the PM was heckled at
Speaker 2: the Bush.
Speaker 4: Summit in Ballarat. That's next.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Reform UK leader Nigel Faraj, who's outlined
Speaker 2: his blueprint, declaring he would deport six hundred thousand migrants
Speaker 2: over five years if elected.
Speaker 8: If you come to the UK illegally, you will be
Speaker 8: detained and deported and never ever allowed to stay period.
Speaker 2: Joining us now is Samara Gill, host of Triggered with
Speaker 2: Samara Gill. Great to catch up with you, Thanks so
Speaker 2: much for joining me on the show. I've got to
Speaker 2: say Farage means business. I mean he's Becky's political career
Speaker 2: on being tough on borders. What's been the response to
Speaker 2: his mass deportations announcement?
Speaker 10: Great to see Denika.
Speaker 15: Look the UK is in the middle of Farage Mania
Speaker 15: right now. He is the answer because Britain is an
Speaker 15: absolute mess. You've got crime soaring, You've got people getting
Speaker 15: stabbed on the street, left, right and center, You've got
Speaker 15: phones getting nicked, shoplifting, his rife, inflation is through the roof.
Speaker 15: I mean, our so called free healthcare system is breaking
Speaker 15: apart at the scenes.
Speaker 10: And Reform UK is really deadly serious about this plan.
Speaker 15: They wanted to port those six hundred thousand people over
Speaker 15: five years.
Speaker 10: And the fact is the British.
Speaker 15: Public is with him because Britain has really had enough here.
Speaker 15: On top of all that, we've had fifty thousand small
Speaker 15: boat migrants that have landed in the UK in the
Speaker 15: past year. Whole communities are understrained, and let's be honest,
Speaker 15: Australia has seen this all before. I mean, you're remember
Speaker 15: those Gillard Rudd years where we had twenty five thousand
Speaker 15: people arrived by boat. It was total chaos and it
Speaker 15: took Tony Abbott's resolve to put an end to it,
Speaker 15: and thank god that he did.
Speaker 10: Farage is very much cutting through.
Speaker 15: He's reading the pulse of what the people want and
Speaker 15: millions are sort of behind him with this plan. But
Speaker 15: meanwhile we've had Kirstamer, our own Prime minister rush off
Speaker 15: to Washington last week to defend Ukraine borders instead of ours.
Speaker 10: It's ludicrous, It's absolutely ludicrous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just goes to show that his priorities are
Speaker 2: just so wrong right now for the United Kingdom. But
Speaker 2: I mean, god, some of those stats are just shopping
Speaker 2: on boat arrivals.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: Look, I've got to say, Samara, this is astonishing. Lawyers
Speaker 2: for the UK's Home Office have argued that the rights
Speaker 2: of migrants trump.
Speaker 4: Those of people in Epping.
Speaker 2: Of course, the Bell Hotel in Epping was used as
Speaker 2: a migrant hotel, but the Hope Secretary is not only
Speaker 2: fighting a court ruling blocking the housing of migrants there,
Speaker 2: but Apartment now thinks that locals rights well don't seem
Speaker 2: to matter.
Speaker 15: Samara, Well, exactly, it is really state versus the people here.
Speaker 15: And that's really what makes it so shocking, because you've
Speaker 15: got these ordinary, hard working families in Epping, which is
Speaker 15: a sort of small town in Britain. They're taxpayers, most
Speaker 15: of them have lived there their whole lives, and they're
Speaker 15: standing up and they're saying we don't want our local
Speaker 15: hotel being turned into migrant housing. This is a phenomenon
Speaker 15: that's going on all over the country now to deal
Speaker 15: with the crisis that we're going through. And look, they're
Speaker 15: not standing up just because they don't like illegal migrants.
Speaker 15: I mean there were multiple instances of men at that
Speaker 15: particularly particular hotel who lived there and have been charged
Speaker 15: with sexual assault offenses against miners.
Speaker 10: So this is really serious.
Speaker 15: I feel like the British people's kindness was taken for
Speaker 15: weakness here and they finally had to stand up and
Speaker 15: say no more. So they went to court for the
Speaker 15: closure of the hotel. They actually won and that really
Speaker 15: should have been the end of it. But instead of
Speaker 15: respecting the ruling, our Home Secretary has turned around.
Speaker 10: And appealed it.
Speaker 15: So the audacity to say that migrants' rights trumps the
Speaker 15: rights of the locals, that's where the labor government here
Speaker 15: is standing at the moment.
Speaker 10: It's absolutely outrageous.
Speaker 15: I mean, when you come here, because we're still part
Speaker 15: of the ECHR, which is the Human Rights Act, you
Speaker 15: get a four star hotel, you get free healthcare, you
Speaker 15: get a free iPhone, and you get free three meals
Speaker 15: a day on the taxpayer dime. That's what you get
Speaker 15: as an illegal migrant if you come over on a boat.
Speaker 15: So you can see why people are coming over in
Speaker 15: droves over from France, by the way, a safe country.
Speaker 15: We're at breaking point. We're in breaking point over here.
Speaker 15: We can't take any more of it.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you're getting that the luxuries of
Speaker 2: life when you're a migrant, no wonder they keep coming back.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's half of the problem. Now, look, let's
Speaker 2: pivot because the second season of With Will Love Megan
Speaker 2: has been released on Netflix, of course, which sees the
Speaker 2: Duchess of Sussis tell you her incredible life style and
Speaker 2: cooking tips.
Speaker 4: Now, Samara, I've got to say, you've taken one for
Speaker 4: the team.
Speaker 2: You have watched it for us, so please give us
Speaker 2: your verdict.
Speaker 15: I had to sit through five grueling hours of this,
Speaker 15: and purely for journalistic purposes, but I really felt like
Speaker 15: I'd had some sort of lobotomy afterwards because.
Speaker 10: It was it was horrendous.
Speaker 15: I mean, let's be honest, it's been an utter desire uster.
Speaker 15: Like we've had critics saying, oh, it's painfully contrived, its
Speaker 15: tone deaf, it's boring, it's intolerable. I mean one reviewer
Speaker 15: even said that it feels like watching kind of carefully
Speaker 15: curated inauthenticity. I mean it was not in her real home,
Speaker 15: so it's a fake home. It was recycled footage, and
Speaker 15: it was Megan pretending to be some sort of lifestyle guru,
Speaker 15: which we know she isn't.
Speaker 4: We know that she.
Speaker 15: Doesn't have any ties with her family on either side.
Speaker 10: They've broken away.
Speaker 15: They kind of live in this very insular golden gated
Speaker 15: community in Montecito, and everyone's asking where is Harry. I mean,
Speaker 15: he's absolutely nowhere. We just see a couple of like
Speaker 15: really creepy photos of him in the corner and some
Speaker 15: cat that she made for him. I think even he
Speaker 15: doesn't want to be part of the circus anymore. I mean,
Speaker 15: she wanted to be this new Gwyneth Paltro with her
Speaker 15: own Goop style empire, but she is really serving us nothing.
Speaker 15: She comes across like sort of a Montecito Marie Antoinette,
Speaker 15: that's what they're calling her over here, lecturing the peasants
Speaker 15: from her California mansion.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 2: I absolutely love that, And you're right, I feel like
Speaker 2: Harry is now at the point where he's is completely embarrassed.
Speaker 4: By his own wife.
Speaker 2: I mean as seriously, Samara girl, you're brilliant. Thank you
Speaker 2: very much for joining me on the show this evening.
Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. Stay with us back in a moment
Speaker 2: with the winners and losers of the week, including the
Speaker 2: politician who struggles to define what a woman is. That's next,
Speaker 2: welcome back. Let's bring in National's leader David little Proud. Now,
Speaker 2: good to see you, David, thanks for joining me. Let's
Speaker 2: talk about the Bush Summit in Ballarat today. You were
Speaker 2: in the audience, you saw the Prime Minister and Justina
Speaker 2: Alan getting heckled.
Speaker 4: What did you think, Yeah.
Speaker 16: Oh look there was palpable anger outside before they even
Speaker 16: got there, and then palpable angle inside from those that
Speaker 16: came to listen to the Prime Minister and the Premier,
Speaker 16: and they showed absolute contempt. They basically said, suck it up,
Speaker 16: we're here to listen, but not do anything about it.
Speaker 16: They're basically going to ramp up this all renewables approach
Speaker 16: that is tearing up the communities of right across this country,
Speaker 16: regional communities. They're tearing up your food security, pushing up
Speaker 16: your food prices, taking away the productivity of our farm land,
Speaker 16: all on this reckless race where there is not a
Speaker 16: country of the industrial scale of the size of Australia
Speaker 16: that is running on all renewables approach. In fact, they
Speaker 16: have had a gat in Portugal and Spain and they
Speaker 16: got to seventy seven percent renewables of their grid and
Speaker 16: they actually lost their entire grid for over a week
Speaker 16: because they don't have this thing called baseload power. And
Speaker 16: this ideology is destroying our economy and you're seeing it.
Speaker 16: The economics is catching up with you. Every time you
Speaker 16: open your electricity bill every quarter, you should see Anthony
Speaker 16: Alberanezi and Chris Baron's face on it, because this ideology
Speaker 16: is costing you a lot more. With this thing called
Speaker 16: the capacity investment scheme. Chris Baron keeps telling us that
Speaker 16: renewables are the cheapest, so we're going to go on
Speaker 16: all renewables approach. Well, if it's so cheap, why does
Speaker 16: the Australian taxpayer have to subsidize tens of millions of
Speaker 16: dollars to underwrite a price for these renewable companies, many
Speaker 16: of which are multinationals from overseas, to make billions out
Speaker 16: of the Australian taxpayer and be subsidized for it. I
Speaker 16: would have thought it could have gone into the market.
Speaker 16: It would be the cheapest form of energy and we
Speaker 16: would see that in our energy bill. So we haven't
Speaker 16: seen that. All we're seeing is your energy bill continue
Speaker 16: to go up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just on this magic carpetright fantasy into the
Speaker 2: never never right now under this net zero scheme. I
Speaker 2: thought it was interesting today that the Prime Minister even
Speaker 2: had the nerve to talk about climate change science in
Speaker 2: front of regional I just think he was completely tone deaf.
Speaker 2: But the reality is, David, it's regions that are really
Speaker 2: suffering from net zero.
Speaker 4: It's not the inner city elites.
Speaker 2: You know, they're not building these wind farms in the
Speaker 2: middle of Sydney's CBD. They're building them out in the
Speaker 2: regions and razoring up the land.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 16: And this is the thing is they have had to
Speaker 16: go in Sydney at north Head and Zalie Stegel was
Speaker 16: the first one to rail against it and to actually
Speaker 16: say that it wasn't in the right in the right
Speaker 16: place for her community. But she's happy to put her
Speaker 16: head on a pillow now and she's done over regional Australians.
Speaker 16: I just say to your city viewers, please just appreciate
Speaker 16: the burden you're asking us to bear. In regional Australia,
Speaker 16: it is tearing communities apart. There are fusion lines that
Speaker 16: have just been lit where people don't talk to one anymore.
Speaker 16: I've seen families. I sat in Molong in New South
Speaker 16: Wales where an eighty five year old man was worried
Speaker 16: that his two sons won't talk to get talk again
Speaker 16: before he dies. These renewable projects have just torn his
Speaker 16: family apart and all on this reckless race. And the
Speaker 16: Prime Minister lecturing us about the environment. We are the
Speaker 16: greatest stewards of our environment, our farmers because our farmer's
Speaker 16: profit loss is intrinsically tied to the health of their land.
Speaker 16: That's how they make money, and they are the best
Speaker 16: stewards of that land. And the Prime Minister come out
Speaker 16: there showing contempt and looking down his nose telling them
Speaker 16: how they should be living. Is one that shows that
Speaker 16: he really doesn't understand what's happening in regional Australia. He came,
Speaker 16: he ticked a box and he left. We just sent
Speaker 16: to Alan and basically they left no confidence whatsoever in
Speaker 16: those communities out there.
Speaker 4: No, that was very very clear.
Speaker 2: It was such a tone deaf speech today, David Little Proud,
Speaker 2: We've got to leave it there. Nice to see you
Speaker 2: as always, Thank you so much for joining me on
Speaker 2: the show. Well, it is that time of the week
Speaker 2: where we saw the winners from the losers and helping
Speaker 2: me to do that. This week is a former New
Speaker 2: South Wales police minister, David Elliott. Good to see you, David,
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on this segment. Now this week
Speaker 2: is Asio of course, for finding out about Iran's involvement
Speaker 2: in anti Semitic attacks.
Speaker 7: Homies, They're fantastic and how good are they identified the
Speaker 7: fact that it was Indeed, as we all knew, anybody
Speaker 7: that sat into security briefing in the military or the
Speaker 7: police or foreign affairs, we all knew that Iran had
Speaker 7: it there in they're all about to be able to
Speaker 7: commit domestic terrorist accidents here in Australia, and they did it,
Speaker 7: and they called it out and I actually got this
Speaker 7: begrudging respect for the Prime Minister because he made that
Speaker 7: announcement through gritted teeth. He did not like that. And
Speaker 7: Bob Carr, who was sipping tea with the Iranian ambassador.
Speaker 7: Only a couple of weeks ago would have hated it.
Speaker 7: But good on Asio. They are my winners. They identified
Speaker 7: the threat, they called it out, and I suspect advised
Speaker 7: the government that the ambassador should be expelled.
Speaker 2: Well, thank goodness for Asio and not thank goodness for
Speaker 2: the Labor government no on this matter. Now, look, I
Speaker 2: had to give my winner this week to Bob Catter
Speaker 2: because he put Australia first. Now, I don't like what
Speaker 2: he did yesterday with that Channel nine journalist, and if
Speaker 2: you missed it, here was a bit of.
Speaker 10: That if you've got leberties heritage yourself.
Speaker 14: Oh, Mike, don't say that because that irritates me and
Speaker 14: I punch blokes in the mouth for saying that. Don't
Speaker 14: you dare say that? My family have been in this
Speaker 14: country for one hundred and forty years.
Speaker 4: Now, David, I don't agree with that.
Speaker 2: I don't like what he did, but I want to
Speaker 2: point you to the context of why he blew up
Speaker 2: at that nine journal He was actually defending his country
Speaker 2: and our values.
Speaker 14: Have a look, because this country is fed up with
Speaker 14: your Oh we.
Speaker 4: Must be nice to everybody.
Speaker 14: Well, I'm not particularly nice to people that crossed the border,
Speaker 14: invaded another country and murdered over twelve hundred people.
Speaker 1: Tick the boxes.
Speaker 14: Do they have democracy?
Speaker 1: Do they have a rule of law?
Speaker 14: Do they have Christianity or some similar belief system. Do
Speaker 14: they have egalitarian traditions? Do they have industrial awards? Now,
Speaker 14: if they don't tick the boxes, they don't come here.
Speaker 14: If you have anti Australian sentiments, then get the hell
Speaker 14: out of my country.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's fair enough. What do you reckon?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think what we need to ask ourselves is
Speaker 7: and it comes down to a whole lot of stuff
Speaker 7: going on in Australia at the moment and around the
Speaker 7: world of the United States, the United Kingdom at the
Speaker 7: moment as well. What's pushed the center ground to have
Speaker 7: these opinions? Yep? Why have they worken up all of
Speaker 7: a sudden and decided right, that's people that are protesting,
Speaker 7: People are expressing opinions like that that never would have
Speaker 7: behaved like that in the past.
Speaker 2: No, I completely agree with you, But I think we've
Speaker 2: let some people into this country, some who hate us,
Speaker 2: some who hate our values, and some who don't want
Speaker 2: to assimilate, and that is a conversation we need to have.
Speaker 4: It's not racist to talk about it.
Speaker 2: Now you'll loser this week Tony Burke for his double
Speaker 2: standards on protest.
Speaker 7: Tony, you're the Minister for Citizenship and you've got out,
Speaker 7: You've gone out this week and said don't go to
Speaker 7: way rally that celebrates citizenship. Now I'm not going to
Speaker 7: the rallies on Sunday because I'm a bit nervous about
Speaker 7: the type of people that are attending. Like I would
Speaker 7: have warned Bob Carr not to go to the pro
Speaker 7: Palestinian rally because you'll be marching alongside epitaphs of the Ayatola.
Speaker 7: But Tony, you can't say don't go to a rally
Speaker 7: representing and celebrating citizenship and be quiet and silent on
Speaker 7: a rally two or three weeks ago that was celebrating
Speaker 7: a terrorist organization. Because that's what he's done. And he
Speaker 7: used to be one of the smart ones. We sort
Speaker 7: of thought, oh well, if you've got to have a
Speaker 7: labor MP, you might as well have Tony Burke, and
Speaker 7: he has brought the whole labor partty tradition of citizenship,
Speaker 7: the Bob Hawk attitude, the Ben Shiffley attitude, the John
Speaker 7: Curtain attitude of citizenship into complete disrepute.
Speaker 2: I completely agree with you, and I just think he's
Speaker 2: looking after his electorate.
Speaker 4: That's absolutely all about.
Speaker 7: Exactly send of his electorate to probably going to be
Speaker 7: calling out next Sunday.
Speaker 2: Absolutely agree with you now, my louser. This week I
Speaker 2: had to give it to the Queensland Shadow Treasurer and
Speaker 2: former Minister for Women Shannon Fenterman, who still doesn't know
Speaker 2: what a woman is.
Speaker 5: L ANDP have sunk to a new loan. LMP minister
Speaker 5: actually stood up in the Parliament and said, in order
Speaker 5: to protect women, you need to know how to define
Speaker 5: a woman. Well, I can define a woman. It's not
Speaker 5: something I'm ashamed of. I just take an inclusive approach.
Speaker 5: I mean, L ANDP hate it. So let's be honest.
Speaker 5: This isn't about protecting women. This is Trump style ideology
Speaker 5: imported straight from the US into Queensland politics.
Speaker 4: Please.
Speaker 2: She says she knows what a woman is, but she's
Speaker 2: taken an inclusive approach. Therefore she doesn't actually know what
Speaker 2: a woman is.
Speaker 4: And it's not Trump policies.
Speaker 2: It's actual biology, Shaddon, it's biology.
Speaker 4: You can't change that fact.
Speaker 7: And she's misled the people because she said the LNP
Speaker 7: would hate her. Yeah, they love her. I love it,
Speaker 7: they will love it. I know the LNP and Queensland
Speaker 7: well enough to know that I'll be saying.
Speaker 1: Stay where you are exactly.
Speaker 4: David Elliott, good to have you on, Thank you so
Speaker 4: much for joining us.
Speaker 2: Good to see you, Thank you for your company. I'll
Speaker 2: be back on Sunday night. Steve Price is next.
Speaker 1: Good night,