WEBVTT - Danica De Giorgio | 29 August 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:07.960 Why On Sky News Australia. This is de Nika di Giorgio. 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:11.560 Hello and welcome to the program. Coming up tonight, Anthony 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:15.320 Alberesi gets a reality check from real people as the 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:18.840 Bush fights back against Labour's reckless energy policies. 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:24.120 The cheapest form of new energy is renewables. 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:26.320 Plus. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.319 The PM reveals when he'll meet with Donald Trump, you 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:33.120 won't believe his laughable answer, and the Hunt for Desi 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.600 Freeman enters day four as the AFP joins a search 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.040 for the accused killer. But first tonight, The Bush fought 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:44.600 back today against Anthony Albanesi's reckless energy policies and the 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:49.200 damage caused by Labour's net zero magic carpet ride. Farmers 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:52.280 did not hold back at The Herald's Sons Bush Summit 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.840 in Ballarat, Victoria, as the PM took to the stage 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.240 to answer questions by. 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:01.120 A regional communities paying the cost for renewable energy? 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:02.920 Where is the social license? 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:06.119 Where is the regulation to protect our communities, value our 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:09.720 farmland and preserve our environment? How can state and federal 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.640 governments justify enabling companies like squad and. 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:14.800 Energy to tear our communities. 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:21.880 Apart so that there hasn't been a new cul fire 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:26.720 power station begun for this century. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:28.280 That's just the truth. 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.960 And there hasn't been any regulations stopping that. There is 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.720 still nothing stopping that. Now someone wants to build a 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:41.080 coal fire power station, they can go and do it. 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:42.160 It hasn't happened. 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:48.760 It hasn't happened because the markets term that doesn't stack up. 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.240 We need ladies and gentlemen. Please. 0:01:56.080 --> 0:02:00.240 Well, he couldn't escape this, could he. Firstly, farmers are 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:03.440 the collateral damage caught up in the race to renewables. 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.720 Reckless governments want to carve up the land under the 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:11.000 guise of saving the land from climate change. Make that 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:16.520 make sense. And secondly, Anthony Albanezi is totally talking nonsense. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:20.600 Labor is shutting down coal plants with no plan B 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:24.119 for energy generation to keep the lights on in this country. 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:28.280 The Australian Energy Market Operator has warned the slow rollout 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:32.520 of keyholes and wire projects will severely limit the amount 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:37.000 of power big renewables can produce to replace Australia's soon 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.440 to be shut coal plants and g it just got 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:41.640 worse from there. 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:46.680 For the PM, we do need energy, and the cheapest 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.480 form of new energy is renewables. 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.639 So that's the first point that I'll make. 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:59.800 The science told us that climate change was real. 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.240 Ladies and gentlemen, We'll have to stop if you keep interjecting. 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:10.560 Told us that the science was real, and we are 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:14.320 seeing we are seeing what the science told us would happen, 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:20.360 which is more extreme weather events and more intense We've 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:26.160 seen cyclones in nontropical areas like off the New South 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:30.560 Wales north coast and off the Queensland coast. We're seeing 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:35.119 an incret at the moment. We have drought, we have flooding, 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:40.680 we have impact in South Australia and impact in Western Australia. 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:54.720 People need to be treated with respect at and that 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.040 is and that is what I am doing through my 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.920 presence here, and I'll continue to engage. 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:02.640 But I won't bullshit people. 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.920 I won't say I won't say. 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.480 Well, imagine going to the regions and professing climate change 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:14.240 and the science. How tone deaf and out of touch 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.400 is this guy in regional New South Wales right now 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.479 there are plans to put up wind farms at a 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.840 height of two hundred and seventy meters. It is literally 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:27.479 ripping local towns apart over in Victoria, legislation past this 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.440 week where farmers can be fined if they don't allow 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.040 transmission workers onto their private property. 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:37.240 So who is bsing? Who Prime Minister? 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:41.200 Because I would say he is bsing all of us. 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.800 We were told our bills were going to go down 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.560 under renewables. Instead they are up by one thousand dollars. 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:49.839 We were told we were going to get two hundred 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:53.440 and seventy five dollars in energy bill relief. Instead that 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:57.360 pledge disappeared into the never never. We were told labor 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.160 has a plan to keep the lights on instead the 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.480 heat of summer. We were told in New South Wales 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.479 to turn off our appliances because the grid was not 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.440 coping and the East Coast. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.200 Could run out of gas by next year. 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:13.640 We were told Labour is on track to meet energy targets. Instead, 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.919 experts warn Australia is on track to miss targets because 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:22.200 of low investment and output in grid scale solar and wind. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.600 And not to mention, Australia needs ten thousand kilometers of 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:30.279 high voltage transmission lines by twenty fifty, but the project 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.159 is so far behind only half of it will be 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.159 delivered in the next decade. And the cost of course 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:40.200 will inevitably be passed on to consumers on top of 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:45.080 every other energy increase under this government. And of course 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.159 we were told we were building our renewables energy future. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.680 Instead I have lost count at the amount of projects 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.440 which have gone bust or have been delayed in the 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.960 last few months alone around the country. 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:58.839 So again I will ask. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:02.920 The question who who is b s ing who Prime Minister? 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.440 And then it was Victorian Premier just into Alan's turn 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.400 to make her speech at the Bush Summit today and 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.200 Gia went down like a lead balloon. 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:16.800 Families, farmers, small business owners, to many. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.880 Many are doing it tough. Some of it is because 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:29.000 of nature. Some of it is because of nature. 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:33.000 The bush gives you something you simply can't find anywhere else. 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:42.280 The fresh air, the quiet, the space. And that's why. 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:46.000 Also we're supporting renewable energy projects as well that are 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:47.000 driving investment. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.560 I mean, surely she had to expect this, and I 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:56.880 think that this farmer really summed up the sentiment. Just 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:01.080 into Alan is holding farmers at ransom, the noose around 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:05.520 their necks, whether it be renewable energy zones, transmission lines, 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.120 the emergency services tax. 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.120 Once again as we're seeing around the country. 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.240 It's the regions and the farmers, not the wealthy city 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:17.200 elites whose lives are being destroyed by net zero. Labor 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.960 is out running a tricky and dodgy experiment of transmission lines, 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:26.200 giant wind turbines, green hydrogen, solar farms, and batteries. So PM, 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.920 I'll tell you what, how about you listen to your 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:34.160 own words, stop your own bs. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.840 And secure our future. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.640 Well, the Prime Minister has finally given us confirmation on 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.480 when he will meet with US President Donald Trump. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.520 Well, when you see it on your screens. 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:53.320 Yeah, no, it's confirmed. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.440 Oh good good, blink and you'll miss it. 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:58.720 You'll find out if a meeting has been scheduled when 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:02.200 you see it on your screens. So, in other words, 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.200 there is no update, nada. There are still no formal 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:10.320 plans for a meeting with our number one ally and 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:14.160 ALBO is quite touchy on the subject. Haven't listened to 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:17.400 his reaction. Would asked if Defense Minister Richard Miles was 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:21.040 in Washington this week to try and broker that very meeting. 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:26.880 Things that become an issue that just aren't. He went 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:31.520 to the United States, he met the Vice President, he 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:36.640 met the Defense Secretary. He met senior people in the 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.200 Trump administration, and that's a good thing. 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.120 And then he came home. That's a good thing. 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.040 Well, it just seems that everyone's having White House meetings 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.640 except for Albow. According to The Australian, Richard Miles was 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:53.000 rushed to Washington for high level talks with US Vice 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:53.800 President JD. 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.160 Vance to reassure the White House. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.280 That Australia would lift its defense spending and pave the 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:03.120 way for a meeting between Anthony Alberesi and Donald Trump. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.600 And last month, you recall Penny Wong was also rushed 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.120 to Washington, DC as well on some sort of weird 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:13.520 peacekeeping mission, and she came back empty handed. And look, 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.360 who knows what even happened with Miles over there. Richard 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.760 Miles claims that he had a formal meeting with his 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:23.440 US counterpart, Pete Hegseth. Miles's office published an Instagram post 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:27.640 showing the two of them photographed together alongside JD. Vance, 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.640 but a US Defense official said, we can confirm that 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.080 there was not a meeting. 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.120 It was a happenstance encounter. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.000 And then hours later, the Chief Pentagon spokesperson, Sean Parnell 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.760 told the Guardian that the encounter was in fact a meeting, 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.920 walking back that previous statement and confirming it was coordinated 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.280 in advance. But gee, this just shows to me sheer 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.440 desperation by the Albenese government to try and shore up 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:58.320 the relationship. And so really ALBINIZI is embarrassingly banking on 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.800 a series of upcoming summers in the hope of catching 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:02.600 up with Trump. 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:08.080 It's summer season, which sounds glamorous, but isn't you spend 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.680 more time on a plane than you do on the land. 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.880 And so we have a range of meetings, whether it's 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:20.360 a UN General Assembly as an APEC, so we'll be 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.280 running into each other regularly. 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:28.000 Running into each other like a casual hallway meeting. I mean, 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.240 that's not the same as a formal sit down meeting. 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.400 But then again, this isn't the first time the PM 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.000 has gasled us into thinking that he's got it all 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:37.840 under control. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.160 When we have a meeting, we'll have a meeting. Well, 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.560 of course we will meetings. 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:47.760 It'll be a range of meetings between now and the 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.200 end of the year with President Trump. 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:52.520 The confidence. 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.840 I refer to my previous five three and twenty four 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.000 entries to that same question. 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:01.400 Yeah. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.360 Look, it all comes down to leadership in the end, 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.440 doesn't it. So Albo can keep flying ministers over on 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:10.680 bridging the gap meetings. The more he equivocates, the bigger 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:18.360 the gap between our alliance gets. Let's go straight to 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.400 Shadow Cabinet Secretary Andrew Wallace. Now, good to see you 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.840 as always, andrews. I'll get to that meeting in a moment, 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:26.840 but I want to start firstly with the scenes that 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.160 we saw at the Herald sun Bush summit today where 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.760 the Prime Minister was heckled by angry farmers over net zero. 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.040 The PM says that he won't bs people on the 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.560 issue his words, not mine. 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:38.880 Is he. 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.400 The election in twenty twenty two when he promised Australians 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.679 on no less than ninety seven occasions that we were 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.760 going to get a two hundred and seventy five dollars 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:58.080 power reduction if all we did was just follow his lead. 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.839 And clearly the electorate sucked it up. 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.480 They voted for Anthony Albanesi and Labor and what have 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:05.920 we got. 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:09.000 We've got power bills which are now more than a 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:14.080 thousand dollars than what we're expecting. So austrangs are doing 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.520 a tough power bills have gone up. We had the 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:21.520 figures come up during the week thirty nine percent. Gas 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:25.240 has gone up by thirty eight percent. And it's only 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.439 because now that the subsidies the Commonwealth government, now the 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.560 election's over, the Commonwealth government subsidies are coming off that 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.720 people are staying to feel the real pain in. 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:36.079 These utility prices. 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.160 The strangers have been sold a pup and I think 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:40.560 they've all got buyers remorse. 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.200 I agree, but even with the subsidies, I mean, it 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:44.800 was just a case of you and I paying each 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:46.640 other's energy bills, so it was never going to be 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.920 the solutions to all of this in the first place. 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.400 So I completely agree, and I see why farmers are angry. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:53.679 Now. 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.840 Look, as I just mentioned, who knows what was going 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.959 on with Richard Marles and his alleged meetings in Washington, 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.520 But it all seems to be part of this ploy 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.839 to get Anthony Albanezi a meeting with Donald Trump. How 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.400 many ministers is the Prime Minister sending over there? Why 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.000 can't he put his big boy pants on and get 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.120 on a plane to DC himself. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.160 Well, I think there's actually a legitimate question as to 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:21.240 whether he really honestly wants a meeting with Donald Trump. 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.280 You know, he says he does. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.480 He says he's trying to hook up this meeting. But 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.880 it's been now two hundred and ninety six days since 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:33.959 President Trump took office, and we are supposed to be 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:38.000 one of, if not the closest ally of the United States. 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.560 They certainly are to us, and yet President Trump and 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.480 the Prime Minister can't seem to get a meeting together. 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:48.199 But I think the Prime Minister is actually running scared 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.320 here because he does not want an Oval office meeting 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:55.280 like what happened to President Zelenski. He does, and mind 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.080 you that the President would have a lot to attack 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.360 the Prime Minister on his pos in relation to defense 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.520 expenditure and the recognition of Fealestine. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.120 I think the Prime. 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.960 Minister is very, very worried about an Oval office meeting. 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.680 I completely agree with you, is absolutely terrified. 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.040 But in the end, does he want to bridge the 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.480 gap or not? That's the question. Now. Look, Iran's envoy 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.040 had a job. That's his job. It's a leadership thing. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.480 Iran's envoy has left the country after being expelled this week. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:23.560 Of course, amid. 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:27.760 Revelations around orchestrated anti Semitic attacks. He referred on X 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:32.160 to quote the occupation, apartheid and genocide by the illegitimate 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.080 Israeli regime and that at the airport there were quite 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:36.040 wild scenes. 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.920 Have a listen and Massa, how do. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:44.760 You feel being expelled from Australia? Nothing in particular part 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:45.560 of the job. 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:46.640 Pack of stenographers. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:51.680 You repeat the lines of the Australian government. 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.320 You should be better than that. 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:58.680 You be aware of government's alleged involvement in these activities. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.400 No, I'm not so you would be sleiss. 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.200 Acquisition Andrew, what do you make of this? 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.640 And has labor gone far enough to defend this country 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.200 against the attacks bay Iran? 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:15.320 Well, there's been a lot said this week Deneka about 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.440 labors in action, but let's just look at it again. 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.120 We have been calling out senior leaders of the coalition 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:28.640 have been calling out for the IRGC, the Iranian Revolutionary 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.960 Guard Corps to be listed as a terrorist organization for 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.600 two and a half years, you know. And some people 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.160 might say, well, what's the benefit in them doing that 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:39.640 or this strain government doing that. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.040 I'll tell you what the benefit is. 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:46.440 It is actually once a listed terrorist organization is enacted 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:51.240 in the law, it's illegal to provide direct or indirect 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.520 financial support or any type of other support to a 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:59.440 listed terrorist organization. So all of these groups and individuals 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:03.800 that are out they're flying hes Bala or Hamas or 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:10.400 the Iranian flags, if it's a listed terrorist organization, then 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:14.520 they would be committing very very serious offenses because they're 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.440 supporting a listed terrorist organization. 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.920 I think our law enforcement at a state. 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:25.200 Level needs to really crack down harder on this. But 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.120 I tell you what's really concerning me is that there's 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:34.920 this significant unease. Now we've got a foreign state actor 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:40.720 that has committed the most egregious foreign influence attacks and 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.800 terrorist attacks in Australia. They're trying to break down social 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.840 cohesion in Australia. And yet this is the same country 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:53.520 that provides financial support to Hamas, and this is the 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:58.800 same organization that is running Gaza, to which the Prime 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:02.280 Minister are only two weeks ago has said, well, you 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:06.800 know they want to reward Hamas with Palestinian recognition. 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:11.000 Well, and not just Humas Hesbala, the Hoodi Rebels as well. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:12.879 It's all been financed by Iran. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.800 So that's why it's batchels me that the PMS equivocated 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.360 on this. Andrew Wallace, We've got to leave it there. 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.080 Good to see he was always Thanks so much for 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.639 joining me. Well look, let's turn now to the hunt 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:26.640 for accused killer Desi Freeman, four days after he allegedly 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:30.040 shot and killed two police officers in Victoria's High Country. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.280 Let's go live now to our reporter Georgie Dickinson, who's 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:34.639 in Poor Punker this evening. 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:36.760 Georgie, what's the latest. 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:39.280 Good evening to you, Zanika. 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.919 Well, the latest is this man hunt is still on 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.879 for Desi Freeman. It has now been eighty hours since 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.639 he was last seen and police have been trying to 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:52.520 hunt him down over the past eighty hours, but still 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.320 he is at large. Now one of the major developments 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.600 that we have seen is overnight there was a raid 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.919 on a property in Poor Punker and after raid we 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.639 saw a woman in a teenager be arrested. Now those 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:08.440 people are Deisi Freeman's wife and his teenage son. They 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.960 were arrested. They were taken into questioning by authorities. They 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:15.240 have not faced any charges at this stage, but then 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.520 they were later released. But this just gives you a 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.679 sense of the lengths police officers are going to to 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.879 ensure they can track down the man allegedly responsible for 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:27.399 the killing of those two police officers on Tuesday morning, 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.640 Neil Thompson and the Dim Devat. But they have been 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.040 tackling some very torrential conditions. As you can say, it 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.600 has just started raining and it really hasn't stopped raining 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.679 since Tuesday morning. Just about an hour ago we were 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:45.040 hit with lightning, wind and hail, So there's certainly not 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.359 prime conditions for authorities that are trying to track down 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.760 this accused killer. But we did hear from the Chief Commissioner, 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:55.760 Mike Bush a little earlier on today we are. 0:18:55.680 --> 0:19:02.520 Not leaving here until this person is in custody. In fact, 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:06.240 if that person is listening, it really is time to 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.200 lay down your firearms and give yourself up. 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.800 Last night we saw memorials for those fallen officers at 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:16.960 the local police station where they were both working at 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.439 the time that they were killed. And so, Danika, the 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.879 hunt is certainly still on for Desi Freeman. As I mentioned, 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.800 it has just started raining again for another night. We've 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:29.840 seen special operations coming in and out of here all 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.879 day this afternoon, we saw the police shopper up again, 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.439 and just moments ago we saw a convoy of cars 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:39.160 enter this mobile command center here behind me, all. 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.080 Right, George, you really appreciate your updates. 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:43.920 Thank you so much. Let's get more analysis on this now. 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.160 Joining me is Victoria's shadow police minister, David Southwick. 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:49.359 David, thank you for your time. 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.280 Let's start with the deadly police shooting and this ongoing 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:56.360 manhunt Adams. We've just heard clearly police are throwing all 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.440 of its resources into finding this man. 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:02.520 Grad to be with you, Denika. Look, this is such 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:08.320 a tragedy. You've got two police officers killed in the 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:11.919 way that they have been killed. You've got obviously all 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:15.399 police resourcing being thrown at this particular event right now. 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.720 And I've visited a number of stations today and met 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.639 with a number of police officers that are absolutely gutted 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:25.760 at the moment that they don't know where to put themselves. 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:27.879 I mean, it's such a tragedy, but they're putting on 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:29.800 their uniforms and they're going to work and they're doing 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.600 what they have to do. A number of police have 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:37.320 been asked to go in and replace shifts in Port Punkah. 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.639 So you've got police right across the state that are 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.840 being recruited on this particular manhunt at the moment, and 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.280 they just want to see an into this. It is 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:50.640 a horrific situation. It's a shame also that it's taken 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:54.280 a tragedy like this to bring people together, which they have. 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:59.679 Police have been overwhelmed with flowers and tributes to the 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:04.320 very stations. We had one situation where a principal brought 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:06.880 a number of their kids to the station. The principle 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.600 broke down in tears and hugg the police. At the moment. 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:12.800 It's a terrible time, but it's a stark reminder how 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:16.840 dangerous the job is and also what an important job 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.280 Victoria Police do in keeping us all safe. 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:21.359 Oh look, absolutely spot on. 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.359 And I just want to talk about resourcing because I 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:27.879 know that this weekend there's a pro Palestine rally in Melbourne, 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:31.520 but there's also an anti immigration rally at the same time. 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:35.680 Is this going to be taking away frontline resourcess from 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:36.600 this man hunt? 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:41.040 Absolutely? Denika and police said to me today, give us 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:44.560 a break. You know what is happening is, as I've 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:47.760 just said, you've got police being asked to a ten 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:51.960 Port punker to find this individual, and at the same 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.600 time police also need to come from right across the 0:21:55.640 --> 0:22:00.199 state to babysit these protesters and police just want the 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:03.760 opportunity to focus on their job and a break from 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:06.160 the traumas that they're having to deal. As I've said, 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.720 on many occasions, we've had some twenty two thousand eight 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:13.320 hour police shifts just to run these protests. Victoria the 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:16.479 protest capital in the nation. Everyone should have a right 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:20.040 to protest, but I think wake up to those protesters 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:22.840 right now, Now is not the time you want to 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:25.360 have the opportunity to do it. Do it once we've 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:29.400 found this this killer, this murderer. That's what should happen 0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:29.920 right now. 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:30.720 And I think. 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:34.119 It's just bad form for anybody wants to protest at 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:37.560 a time when police should be focused on catching this killer. 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:40.960 Yeah, no doubt officers are going to be stretched once again, 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:44.120 but right now it's just the worst timing. 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:44.600 Now. 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:47.040 Look, David, we saw very angry scenes today at the 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:50.199 Herald sun Bush Summer in Ballarat. Farmers heckled both the 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:53.160 Prime Minister and Premier just into Alan Overnet zero. 0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:55.560 Just this week, legislation that will. 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:59.200 Slap Victorian farmers with massive fines if they block transmission 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:02.639 companies from actsessing their land pass through the Upper House. 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:05.880 That's surely a huge blow to farmers. 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:07.400 Absolutely. 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:09.639 It is on top of the emergency services tax that 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:13.879