WEBVTT - Why We’re Ending The Jamo & Dylan Show - #279 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:03.720 Welcome to person number one podcast. 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:06.240 You're listening to The Jamo and Dylan Show. 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:08.959 Yeah, yeah, we're on the way that dance bra little 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:09.960 Man trip before. 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:12.959 Gooday, guys, and welcome back to another episode of The 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.640 Jammo and Dylan Show. Thank you for your patience. You've 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:17.479 been very good throughout this process. 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.159 Yes, yes, we haven't filmed in a while. No, we 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.640 haven't done some audio episodes, but this is the first 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.799 time we've filmed an EPP in a month two months, 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:26.320 I don't. 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:28.640 Know, and will be one of the last times. 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.840 It will be the second last episode. All good things 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:33.920 come to an end, unfortunately. 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:36.760 So obviously you can tell by the title that we 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.760 will be wrapping up the show, an ultimate episode obviously, 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:42.440 like there was a part of us that wanted to 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.559 go on forever. But yeah, all good things come to 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:45.000 an end. 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:48.240 And look, we don't know what the future holds. Yeah 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.239 we don't know what's happening in five ten years, but 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:54.120 for the time being, a conclusions here indeed, So not 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:56.640 this week, No, in two weeks time for the final leap, 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:57.680 we'll go through it all. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.160 So this will be the penultimate episode, the second to last. 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.360 This is just going to explain why. You know, we 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.280 want the last episode to be happy, to be reminiscent, 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:11.720 that's not going to have details of why it's happening. Yeah, 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:13.080 that's what we're doing for this one. 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:13.400 Yeah. 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.039 Yeah, so this episode will just be explaining why it's 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.039 all ending, and also another few things too that will 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.920 prop it in because obviously you guys just love us 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.800 chit chatting, and yeah. 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:25.600 It's sad times. 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:30.080 Styl and I are both sad about this for sure, 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:34.240 the ending of it. And like I said, like there's 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.800 a part of me that thought this could happen one day, 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:39.440 and then there's also another part that. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:41.600 Was thinking we might go on forever and ever. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.560 Yeah we could be doing this eighties, I know what 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:43.880 you mean. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:46.240 So, yeah, it's been tough. 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:49.240 Like we've known about this for a couple of months now, 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.520 so it's been very hard to keep it under wraps. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.600 And like throughout the whole journey, we've told you guys 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.800 nearly everything, like we probably told you ninety five percent 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:00.480 of it life. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.559 Yeah, we've let you in. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.200 Yes, there's been ups, there's been downs, Like it's been 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:11.520 a lot of series losses, victory, there's been it's been 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.400 an incredible journey and like we've grown and done so 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.640 many things, and you've bro you've genuinely watched us grow 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.240 up on camera, like we were just little boys when 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:21.760 we started. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:22.200 Yep. 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.840 And like we've said this before, there's episodes that we 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:29.639 will watch back and we'll cringe and you think, gee, 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.080 I don't even believe that now, or like I'm not 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.320 the same person. It genuinely feels like a different person. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:35.600 Yeah. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.680 Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with that. It's not going 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:38.919 to read the growth along the way. 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.280 So yeah, Like I took a moment a few days 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.280 ago to go back through and just look at like 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.640 how we started episodes back in the day, just like 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:52.320 weak and cringey and like no confidence in ourselves. And yeah, 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:56.160 we've grown so much throughout this process and it's going 0:02:56.200 --> 0:03:00.000 to be sad to end, but onto bigger things. 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:01.320 Who knows if they'll be better? 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.640 Oh yeah, we don't know that yet. 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.000 We're going to be doing it happens, So yeah, like 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.640 I've mentioned, we're sad. You might hear in our voice 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:13.920 a bit. You know, it's been an emotional period for 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.119 us and you might have seen us been weaning off 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.560 the episodes to make this break a bit easier. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.480 Yeah, So I want to thank all of you guys. Firstly. 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.520 I'll do a bigger thank you towards the end. But yeah, 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.280 but a journey it's been. It's been incredible, mate. 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.440 From I think our first one got like eight hundred views, 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:35.880 our first party ever, and. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:36.760 Then I reckon it cracked. 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.520 Then it dropped over that Christmas period and we're only 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.120 getting one two hundred views. Yeah, and then before you 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.040 know what, TikTok comes along and just bang. 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.920 So all of this stuff will save a lot of 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.800 the journey of Jamal and Dylan for next episode. 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:52.560 We don't want you guys to. 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.040 Watch this and not watch the last one, right, that's 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.000 one of our fears. Yeah, we want you guys, whether 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.640 you've listened to two episodes or two two hundred and 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:04.000 eighty episodes, we want you guys to be a part 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.720 of the last episode and go through the journey with us, 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.119 because we're going to I was thinking about it today. 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.760 I remember for our hundredth episode, my Auntie made that 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.320 book for it. I remember, I've still got. 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:17.599 I'm going to bring it down. We can read through 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:18.360 the book, look at. 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.880 The guests we had on and it's to eighty not out. 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:23.040 It's too eighty not out. 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:23.599 We're tiring. 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:28.560 Yeah, you know what I mean. Tiring hurts. Yeah, just 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.360 broaken a couple of toes and can't be to the meantime. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.320 But to eighty not out Yeah, great strike rate. 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.240 Yeah exactly. So No, we've we've done very well. 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.960 It's been we've been going since October twenty nineteen with 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:45.120 the podcast, so it's been about six years. Very long journey. Yeah, 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:49.080 over half a decade. Yeah, so oh wow, it's been incredible. 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.560 But yeah, there are like a few different factors as 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.000 to why it was ending. I'll let you take it away. 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.479 Deal just with your thoughts and your feelings behind it. Yeah. 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.280 Well, when we it was a few months ago, I 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:06.080 think we could both feel it was coming to an 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.040 end in a way. Yeah, And I think from my end, 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.320 it's more I've probably, as I said to you when 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.120 we were talking about it, I think I've stayed in 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.560 it longer than I would have just for the facts 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.320 of our friendship. So because it is fun, You're doing 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.320 things with your best mate, You're getting to hang out, 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.159 it's exciting. So I think that aspect kept me in 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.839 it longer than I would have Yeah, just for the 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:30.440 fact if you don't want to let your friend down, 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.000 you know, you want to be consistent. You started something together, 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.080 and would you say so we were consistent. We were 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.120 and like always wanted to be consistent. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.040 The fact it was like a weekly thing that we 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.479 can always catch up. And I've said this for it 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.520 felt like therapy almost. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:47.000 Yeah. I know, you're mean, if you had. 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:48.880 Stuff going on in life, which we both have over 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:50.840 the years, you can chat, you could come and not 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:52.440 even necessarily talk about. 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:53.720 That, Yeah, but just have a release. 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:53.960 Yeah. 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.920 Yeah, as much as an entertainment. 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.960 Show, it was also a release for us. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.600 It's a bit of therapy, you say, for you personally, 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.280 like a bit of the passion that was once there 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:07.440 started to die off. 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:13.200 I don't know about I still enjoy this aspect of it, 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.160 like the podcasting side. I like doing the ads, the 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:22.000 brand deals. I think it's more just the like social 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:26.160 media influencery side that I'm not. I've tried my best 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.200 to develop it, but it's just not for me. My 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:33.600 passion doesn't lie there. And yeah, I just felt what 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.120 more can you do? You know what I mean? It 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:40.440 feels like I feel like we were almost with the potty. 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.120 We were on something too early in a way, you know, 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:45.720 we were like one of the first to do it, 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.280 and it was this big thing early on. We were 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.600 getting so many views and it was like we didn't 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:53.960 really have anyone to guide us early when we were 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:54.920 like smashing it. 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.160 We didn't know how to handle it when we had 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.000 the influx of all and it was. 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:04.320 So new in and in Australia itself that like agencies 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.040 and things didn't really know what to do with it either. 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.240 To be honest, at that stage in twenty nineteen twenty twenty. 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.320 You guys wouldn't know as much about this. 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.000 But the agency side of things is interesting because we 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:18.840 joined agencies that went bankrupt yes earlier. We made decisions 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.440 that we thought might have been right at the time 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.640 and felt right. And one of the agencies a lot 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:28.080 of other people who were really successful and booming during 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.240 that time, joint YEP failed and then you're just left 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:32.040 in You. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.480 Just don't have any guidance and it's one of those 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.080 you know. It's also the fact, I think with TikTok 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:42.000 in Australia, you don't get paid just off the views. 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.160 You know, we've gone through it before, if we were 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.200 in America throughout this time period, the money we would 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.760 have made would have been significant. Yeah, lot from that 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:51.840 aspect of it alone. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.640 The other thing as well, So financially we have been funding. 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:58.600 We've been putting a lot of our own money into 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:02.160 this show for a long time. So like from the equipment, 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.960 we haven't been given anything. No, really, Like there's been 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.040 brand deals that we've worked for. Some brand deals you 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:10.720 get paid quite well, yes, and then some you're. 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:12.000 Doing a lot of work for not much. 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:17.880 And it's very like it comes and goes in waves. Yeah, 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.000 so we it's very periodic. The money. It's lump sums. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.760 We might have three months of decent pay and then 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.840 you might have no brand deals for a couple of months. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:30.160 And at the age we are now, like yes, you know, 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.439 deal with twenty six, I'm twenty five, you kind of 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.079 need to look at it as like like it's been 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.920 a great hobby, where's the next step we elevate it? So, 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.199 you know, me like four, since I was twelve, I've 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.760 been making videos even younger, but I was putting them 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:47.920 out to YouTube and stuff. 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:51.800 And we kind of spoke about this like it was 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:53.559 it started off as. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:57.079 A YouTube channel that I had and then like you're 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.360 a funny, funny bloke man, thank you BD. So in school, 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.440 I remember I was trying to convince dial to like 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.400 ye on my YouTube videws or bro, like you'd be 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.920 good on the podcast, like And I actually tried to 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.280 start a podcast before we. 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.160 Try to do a podcast, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.240 I had one called Jamo and Friends yep, similar to 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.280 Dylan Friends over in Victoria, but they started around the 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.800 same time. And I just had like a couple of 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:23.480 mates on to chat. I had Dalton on. 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:23.880 Yes. 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.480 I only did like one or two, maybe two or 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.679 three episodes and then. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:30.920 Packed that in. 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:32.480 It was kind of just getting a feel for the 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.440 podcast world because it was something that was so new 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:36.520 and not. 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.840 Very people who had explored it, not in person, not 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:40.520 in w WA, not in Australia. 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.360 So I wanted to do something like that and like 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.840 I thought of everyone in the world, and no one 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:46.680 was better than you. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.240 Yep. So I asked you and it. 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.640 Took a little bit of convincing yes, because we tried, 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.000 tried about a year before. 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:55.920 And we did one or two EPs maybe and then 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.120 it just happened. 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.920 Like you said, you're not that way in line to 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.760 putting yourself out there for the whole world to see. 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:04.080 Yeah. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:05.760 So I've been proud of you. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:10.440 Thank you, because like it's always felt like it was 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.440 my dream to start with Yes, and then it became 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:18.319 our dream one after one, after a decent period of us, 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.640 you know, putting out episodes, and when we started to 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:25.720 gain a bit of traction, especially with TikTok, we looked 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.120 at each other like, what's going on? 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:28.800 Hang on, there's something here. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:32.200 It's exciting. It's like opportunities come your way. You're getting 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.640 to meet people, You're in situations you'd never been, and. 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.320 We were doing things where we were like, hang on, 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.600 this is way better than what we would be doing 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:41.360 at a normal job. 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:41.880 Yeah. 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:43.120 So then no doubt about it. 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.080 Get that thought in your head of gee, if we 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.280 really push ourselves and work hard and try our best 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.120 to make this a thing, then who knows where you 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.760 could be Yep. So through doing that, like there was 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.400 like you guys wouldn't see it, but there was days 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.480 where we were starting at eight am and deal was 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.959 leaving it for five six just doing heat. We were 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:07.120 working through merch drops like that's we'd never had any 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.200 help a part of asking a couple of questions to people. 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.880 Never had any help with merch drops with the podcast 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.319 has been us the entire. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.640 Time, figuring it all out on the go, the editing, I. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.480 Do it, deal does it. And we have a couple 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.760 of other people. Dan Hickey shout out to him. I'll 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.600 give him a big wrap in the final episode. Oh 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:28.440 what a feller bro. We've had Mo Tamney over east 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.120 who's done some thumbnails. We've had paren Kerno he's done yep. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.040 Like We've had people along the way who've really helped us. 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.920 And I think it's really important that the listeners who 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.800 might not know who they are, like get to know 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.360 them and understand what they've done and helped us with. 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.640 But yeah, back on track to wide or ended. 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:51.320 So yeah, basically, there was just one day where we 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.440 both kind of felt like we were drifting, not in 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:54.480 a friendship way. 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:58.000 Oh yeah, it's not to do people. It's not to 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.800 do with our friendship isn't effective in any way, shape 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.839 or form. There's no there's nothing see us hanging out 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.199 for the rest of the year. We've got big plans. 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.280 Because quite often that that's what's happening. 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.760 Happen and then there's a breakdown and at all here 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.120 luckily that our friendship's been so strongly. 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:18.160 Yes, no business, that's what's carried it through because to 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.520 be honest, so many shows that I've listened to or 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.320 watched and you know, they've fallen apart and then the 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:24.880 friendship falls apart and there's a. 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.280 Whole and it maybe it also helped it because there 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:28.840 wasn't that much money involved. 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:29.920 Yeah, that wasn't a fact. 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.400 But also we were friends before it. Yeah, I feel 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.360 like a lot of social media they become friends because 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.840 so then not to say those are not authentic friendships, 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:40.680 because some of them. 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.560 Are, but we already had the foundation. 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.760 Yeah, you're gonna you know, it's it's going to crack 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.560 if your friendship's based on things like that. 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.160 So yeah, like we said, started off as almost like 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.600 a passion project and then just blossomed into something beautiful 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.360 which gave us memories and we'll speak on. 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.319 The memories will go through next step. But there's been 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.800 some crazy Yeah, we don't want to touch on situations 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.120 you've never ever been in normal life, man. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.559 And it's given us friendships with people, oh for sure, 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.960 and whether they're what you'd call like a micro friendship, 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.280 like people that you can just ask things or like 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.600 catch up with them here and then, or then people 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.760 that you've genuinely become mates with across the journey. And 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.360 there's also been other people like Fraser King, like he's 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:23.880 helped us. 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.240 Yeah, but there's people that you meet. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:26.839 That help you. 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.480 AFL girl won't say her name because of what you know, 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:33.880 did an order to try and get us in something 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.360 the memory. Yeah, so like we've got all these stories, 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:38.319 will tell next week. 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:42.360 But yeah, essentially we both felt like it was. 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.960 Starting not to like rot away that sounds morbid, but 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.360 like it just was sty fade away. 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:50.120 Yeah. 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.640 So then and there was a few things, like you said, 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:56.200 because you're not that much on the social media, like 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.040 you're not inclined to be posting that type of stuff. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.079 It was kind of this thing with me where I 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.760 really wanted us to just be like all chips in 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.120 and try and go for it. Yeah, but I knew 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.520 that there was something within the shield that just isn't there, 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.680 and sometimes if it's not there, it's not there, not there, and. 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:17.240 You tried your best. Like that's what I'm happy about. Yeah, Yeah, 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.840 that's why I'm happy. We gave it like a real 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:24.479 consistent Like we were consistent for like five years every week. 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.720 Bro, And I know, like there was times where we'd 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.280 film a video and you were like a bit reluctant 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.480 and then you pushed through. Sometimes they'd bang and then 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:34.120 we'd get like things from that. 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.920 The videos that bang are the ones you don't expect 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.240 to at all. Yeah, That's what I've found throughout this. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.640 Then one of the toughest things we ever did, which 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.040 I'm proud of both of us for doing it, was 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.720 the live show. So yes, we went over each we 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:53.680 did a live show both like anxious, scary, felt like weird, 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.440 and we did it and some of you guys loved it, 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.440 and that was something where we had opportunities to continue 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:00.960 to do. Yeah. 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.520 Yeah, but we have to respect each other's boundaries. 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:08.280 So like, although I really struggled during the experience, and 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.720 I struggled on stage, to be quite honest. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.640 So yeah, I know it was tough though, No, no, no, 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.680 Like we were good and we were even told by 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:21.200 like professional comedians who we're friends, who said festivals, like 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:24.360 they don't do festivals, yeah, because they're just' said like 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.240 even I don't do a mate like that. They were like, 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.080 that's a really tough first. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:32.920 First thing to do live yeah, and like I said, like, 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.400 we respect each other's opinions and whatnot. So it's something 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.240 that deal didn't really want to do again, and that's fine, 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.680 but it also could stunt the growth. So I know 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.520 that you wanted to do the podcast because you enjoyed that, 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.160 but some of the other things that aren't as glamorous 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.480 or like Ana's in line with you, you didn't want 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.000 to do and that's fine. So yeah, I just I 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.680 sent youll a message and I thought about it for 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.320 a couple of days, and I was just thinking, if 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.400 we really because this takes a lot of our time 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.840 as well, So it really does like if we don't 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.280 have as much time because you know, we're having to 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.880 work to keep things afloat, if we don't have as 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.040 much time and we don't have the money to pay 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.200 people to help us, like a lot of people gets tough. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:18.520 Bro. A lot of people see. 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.040 Us on TikTok and Instagram and just assume that because 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:23.280 we have lots of followers, make a lot of money. 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.280 I think it's a common myth within the industry. There 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.560 is there's a lot of people making a lot of money, 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.800 for sure, but there's a lot of people not making 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.280 as much money as you would think at all. 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.440 Bottom feeders b for sure. You do a lot of 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:35.680 work for not much reward. 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.240 And I hear a lot about it in the comedy space, 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.240 where there's stand up comedians who do twenty five years 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.440 and they're just staying afloat the entire time. 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:44.680 Yep. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.000 So yeah, like I'm not ashamed of ending at all, 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.360 because some people would be like, ohh, I knew they'd 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:52.520 end one day, they'd end. 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.480 Everythink comes to an end, exactly. But Friends came to 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:56.200 an end as well. 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.880 Yeah, exactly, true, great show, great show. Still talks about that. 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.600 And yeah, so Dylan and I had a chat about it, 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.560 really open and honest, and that was the main thing 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:11.040 was we can be transparent and like, although there was 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.639 that disconnect for a bit there where you didn't like 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.080 you knew it was falling apart a bit, yeah, yeah, 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.800 but you were sticking in it because you knew how much. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.040 Just to stay consistent, Yeah, just to not let let 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:24.479 you down, you know. That's the thing. 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:29.320 Yeah, And that's I guess a testament to both of us. 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.640 I never say die attitude and you're. 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:33.960 Mum was more just out of loyalty. Yeah, I was 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.239 just like we're doing this, like yeah, get up and 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:36.920 do it like. 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:42.080 So, yeah, it's tough, but yeah, it's a big move 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.919 for both of us. And what's next you might be 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.320 asking A lot of it's unknown. I mean, Deal has 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.919 been studying in the background, so he's got some goals 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:51.280 and stuff. 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:52.480 See how I go at the end of the year 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.040 finishing UNI, so see what I can turn that into. 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.000 And you've got a big move coming up. Which ye, 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.200 So this I guess has worked its way. 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:02.159 It's definitely. 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:09.280 Yeah. So the move itself was something that I guess 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.840