WEBVTT - 🌟 Getting Inspired With Celebrity Hair Stylist Natalie Anne 🌟 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.280 Hey, beauties, It's Jamie, Joe and Jesse Masud and welcome 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.599 to Skinfluence, a podcast dedicated to beauty, fashion and self love, 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:29.080 turning your weakness into your uniqueness. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.720 Before we get started, we'd like to acknowledge the custodians 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.160 of the land on which we record, the Gadagal people 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:35.120 of the urination. 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:39.199 We have a very special guest on today's episode. Internationally 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.199 regarded as a leading hair artist, award winning expert, and 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:46.360 social media instructor, Natalie Ann regularly works on branded collaborations, 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.040 red carpets, runway shows, and global campaigns. 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.680 Founded in early twenty seventeen, Natalie Anne Haircare was developed 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:56.280 by Natalie Ann and her husband, Arthur James Adams. Following 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.600 years of personal and insolent struggles with products that promised 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.400 but didn't perform, Natalie and decided it was time to 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.000 simplify their hair care game and create a solution that 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.440 would bridge the gap between luxury and DIY. 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.920 Please welcome Natalie and onto skim Fluence. Thank you so 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.480 much for coming in. If you guys an know Nat 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.320 and me met, I don't know, maybe six yeah, well, 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.440 Nata know, I met like six years ago and She's 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:21.840 the first person to ever touch my hair besides like 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.000 my auntie, and I trust her with my life. 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.240 I feel so privileged, So thanks for coming in. 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.280 She and she's also done Jesse's hair a lot. She's 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.320 the only person I trust to do my wedding hair. 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.479 Like I've decided, Oh ya, get me doing my makeup, 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:35.280 you're doing my hair. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:36.000 I'm on it. 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.120 You once told me that you're going to do three 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:39.440 hairstyles for me my wedding day. 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:41.960 That's I mean, I don't even know what we would do. 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:43.160 You feel like if you're going to get me out 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:44.720 of retirement, you might as well put. 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:45.560 Me to retirement. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:50.440 Yeah, I don't do brides anymore. You're doing so that 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.760 it leaves me available to do my love. 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:54.440 Your best friends. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.800 Yes, that's well, Nat. 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.080 You have been in the industry for so so long 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.360 and you really have paid the way in Australia in 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.120 terms of like hairstyling. 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:04.919 Tell us a little bit about your journey. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:06.600 You told me before that you've been doing hair for 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:10.320 thirty twenty three years, because you're thirty seven, and that 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.480 is older than Jesse and my age. 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:13.880 So that's crazy. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.880 I started hairdressing when you were one that's not crazy. 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:20.160 And you were fourteen, I was fourteen. That's a family 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.359 of hairdressers, my stepmom, my Nan, you know, all of 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.600 them more hairdressers. So I think it was inevitable that 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.360 I was going to become a hairdresser. I feel like 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:31.840 hairdressing chose me, not the other way around. Every time 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.480 i'd go visit my dad on the weekends, you know, 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.360 I would be in a salon. So it was intoxicating, 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:41.800 the smell, the addicted you do. And I think I 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.600 was addicted to watching women like walk out feeling themselves. 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:46.200 I love. 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:47.120 That's such lovely. 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:48.960 So that's what really kind of inspired you to keep 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:50.880 going with it most definitely, Well, then, how did you 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.919 turn your love for hairdressing into an empire. You've got 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.400 amazing following on socials, You've styled the most incredible people 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:58.120 in the red carpet. 0:02:58.200 --> 0:02:59.400 Tell us a bit about that. 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:04.440 I'm super over ambitious, and you know anything that my 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:06.880 dad always told me. He's like, you know, if you're 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.799 going to be a garbage collector, make sure you own 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.280 the garbage, runny. If you're going to be a beauty therapist, 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:12.920 make sure. 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:17.480 You're so it didn't really matter like what I chose 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.440 to do in my life as long as there was 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:23.520 no ceiling or there was no cap And yeah, definitely 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.760 culturally that drives like that ambition and my family. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.080 I've hired my entire family, so I needed to make 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.560 sure that they were paid every week. I lied, my sister, 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:36.120 my cousins, my husband's in the business now brother, Yeah, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.920 my brother, yep. So We've had lots of loved ones 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.520 along the way, and I think that is really the 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:45.320 driving force of you know, keeping those milestones, like ticking 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:46.680 them off, which has been really good. 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.200 Yes, how old? So fourteen years old? What age did 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:51.800 you decide I want to do this by myself? 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.119 Like I was twenty one when I left my sort 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.160 of job and started my own business, which is very 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.720 young when you think about it. But I was always 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.800 working from home, like on the side, you know, trying 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.600 to like make ends meet, because when you're a first 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.160 year apprentice, like you don't make much money. And I 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.080 was making two hundred and twenty dollars and three cents. Wow, 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.160 exactly that you do? You get it in a check 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:16.800 and it was in like this little envelope. You'd go 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.479 to the bank and cash it in. Yeah, so it 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.560 always had to do side hustles and jobs. Always work 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.000 from home. I was a nightclub promoter. 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:29.360 Oh yes, okay, yes. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.480 But also what it taught me is to basically build 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:36.200 a database, like create content. Like back then, I used 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.880 to take all of the club photos and send them 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:40.840 out to everybody. So I was like, if I do 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:44.480 their hair before they go to the club, I can 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.719 start building out that network money. That's how the hustle 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.800 sort of started, which is cool. Yeah, I started on 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:58.000 MySpace before Facebook couldn't my age, but I started on 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:02.360 MySpace through the data. So we had five thousand followers 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:06.200 on my Space but that's really good, and then a lot, Yeah, 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.520 it was huge. And then Facebook. Yeah that grew to 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:09.200 like a million. 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.599 Whoa, and then. 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.479 Instagram and then TikTok. I kind of I got guys, 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:15.120 I got too tired. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.880 You're established now that you you know. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.880 It's not really like a necessity to be growing your platform. 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:23.720 TikTok. 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:25.599 Tell us a little bit about your favorite people that 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:29.040 you've started on the red carpet, because if you guys 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.680 don't know, and that's just like a boss. She's traveled la, 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.120 She's done so many amazing people's hair, Like, give us 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:35.080 a few of your faves. 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.680 I think Desie Perkins. 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:42.360 One of my wow Desi Perkins is like my dream girl. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:44.920 I was obsessed with. 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:49.039 Her funny story on DESI. Actually she didn't find me. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:50.960 She didn't know who I was, but I was traveling. 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.520 I was doing a PR tour in Vegas, LA and Miami. 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.520 I think casually, casually, but I took my little brother 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.239 with me, and at the time he was twenty one. 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.479 He's a hustlers us. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.680 He's a hustler, So he was with me filming and 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:07.719 he wasn't twenty one in women in Vegas, so he 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:12.280 was so bored and he basically saw her and he's like, hey, nah, 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.960 that's Daisy Perkins. Something nut's not He's like it is. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.120 So he runs up to her just before she's going 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.680 into a lift. He's like, hey, how you doing. My 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.919 sister's like the most famous hairdresser, so like where he 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:27.000 did you need your hair done? And it's so funny. Sure, 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:28.640 I don't know why she said yes. 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:29.359 I love that. 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.440 She was just like so, I didn't know her brother 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.800 shoots her content, so I think she felt like this 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:40.000 is super cute, and she was just like, yeah, literally 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.760 in my DM the next five minutes going hey, actually 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.240 I wouldn't mind my hairstyled, I'm doing something or other 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.919 and that's what we did. It was so weird. I 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.080 think we did like this at the time. I had 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.960 a collaboration with Keller and we created these really cool accessories, 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.039 so I put them in her hair. We did like 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.080 a braided top nod and some like beachy ways. It's 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:05.640 so beautiful. Yeah, so that was fun. In recent times, 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:11.120 I just worked with Caroline Stanbury from Real Housewives. Yeah, 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.760 her men are just so funny. We did a double 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.880 like press day here that was really cool, like in 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:19.920 and out of like you know, the Morning Show and 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.120 all of like the radio networks. So we did a 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:26.320 couple of different looks full flog, but it was it 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:26.760 was fun. 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.280 That's so cool. You get to meet so many different people. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.840 So different, lots of different personalities. I love working with 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.000 boss women though. I think that sort of if you 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.040 would say, who's my favorite type of client, Like I 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:41.360 love women in business women like you, Yeah, but like 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:45.160 someone like Lily Galici, she's a boss. Like I remember 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.680 when I did her hair in HERLA she just did 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.800 not stop working and I remember thinking to myself, this 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.440 is so inspiring. Like she was at the time, she 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.920 was still doing her lashes. She's a lawyer. But you know, 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.760 there's so many things that you don't know about these influences. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.560 We have a whole other life. 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.600 Like help them create that business. 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.880 You know, what's fully involved in your business? What all 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:07.760 the aspects. 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.480 So we've got like multiple streams like to our business. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.000 We have our salon business, which is you know, it 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.400 kind of runs itself now that was hardcore for the 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.680 last ten years. We're celebrating our ten year sort of 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:22.400 anniversary this year. My sister now runs that business. She's 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.480 our head colorress and our color director's. Yeah, there's like 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:26.720 eight stylists in there. 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.840 It's iconic. Salon's iconic. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:30.720 It just looks, it's gorgeous. 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.120 It's just such a vibe in there. So many amazing 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:34.480 things have happened in that suthing. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:37.079 It really has like so many beautiful memories. Yeah, and 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.360 I do love it, but I feel like the next 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.040 chapter obviously, something I've been working on as a side 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.840 hustle for so many years, which is our product line, Yes, 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.160 Big Vibes. That is a completely different business. And that's 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.320 a different beast, you know, Like I've always wanted my 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.600 own product line, but being in product development you learn 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.440 so many different things, you know. I'm so happy and 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.880 grateful that I am a hairdresser, So you know, the 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.080 R and D is so much easier because I know 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.400 what needs to perform. I know the actives that I 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.560 want in there, like and also being in the marketing field, 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:11.360 I understand what makes the clients tick and what ingredients 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:15.440 they're looking for. So I think it definitely is something 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:19.800 that will be our focus for the next part of 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:20.560 our career. 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.360 But don't be too humble. You've been killing it your 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:24.040 prep and play. 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.000 Just want a major award, thank you? 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:27.000 So what was the award? 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.240 Tell me it was the Australian Hair Fashion Award the 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:30.680 Best New Hairstyling Products. 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:34.560 See, it is such a phenomenal goal. Yeah, And I 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.199 mean this is something that we've used multiple tubes of. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.240 Ourselves, but you have used. 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.960 And I feel like anytime just in one go Literally. 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:45.880 She's so every time she leaves the salon, I'm like, 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.120 do you guys need more prep? Do you need more chocolate? 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.520 Do you need more prep? It's a product that is 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:51.200 so versatile. 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.360 I remember, like you were redefining my curls and you 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:55.719 didn't have a curl care be like, oh, let's just 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:57.520 use prepp and play. You know, you don't usually use 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.280 it for redefining curls, and my hair had never been 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.640 that snatched ever, and you're like, wait a. 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.800 Second, I know, so since then, it's crazy. And this 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:09.160 is why I love working with you both. But you know, 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.600 I think working with the same girls over and over 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.640 and over and trying to like create new looks and 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.720 find new formulas or ways to get around it, but 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.880 that particular moment was like a game changer for me 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.520 because we never used it to redefine curls or fingercoil 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:26.640 or you know. And I love that. I feel like 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:30.600 I've learned so much working with both of you. Yeah, 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.160 just because you know your hair better than anyone else. 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:35.320 So I think that's such a curly thing. Yeah, Like, 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.520 and I always say it, I'm like, curly girls know 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.320 their hair better than us, so like take their lead 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.880 and just be their hands and absorb and try and understand. 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.320 And I think that's my favorite part of my job, 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.079 is really learning from my clients, like what they do 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.920 and their routine, and I think more hair dresses need 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.160 to lean into that like they've been born with this hair. 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:59.199 That's much great advice for hairdressers because so many women 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.480 with curly hair and men with curly hair really struggle 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.880 to find a hairdresser they can trust because they don't 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:04.600 listen to them. 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:05.520 They just have to listen. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.400 Let's hop into some trends because I'm dyning here with 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.079 your you know, yeah. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.400 What are some trends that you're seeing on the red 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:16.319 carpet a lot? Lately? 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.400 Red carpet is definitely a little bit more low key recently. 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:22.559 I don't know if you guys have noticed, but we're 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:30.040 seeing glassy, glossy, healthy, glazed, like juicy hair. Oh yeah, everything. Yeah, 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.600 It's like everything is blown out. Everything is really undone, understated, 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.640 and I feel like the garment is the hero, which 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.160 is really beautiful. I do love that about red carpet. 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.080 I think a really good hairstylist knows when to pull back. 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.720 It should be the final tip. It shouldn't be the moment. 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.600 It's always the one that just finishes the look. 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.760 Where do you think that kind of influence is coming from. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:54.560 I'm going to definitely still say the Kardashians, I think, Yeah, 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.920 where as much as people like to deny it, yeah, 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.720 it is they really they really paved the way. 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.800 I never you know, I kind of just dismissed that 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.720 in my head because I definitely don't want to admit 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:07.160 it either. 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:11.000 Yeah, but most people don't, you know, but I would 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:15.880 say that it's they are still the most referenced celebrity 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:17.480 in so. 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.400 When girls comings in your chair, they go, I want this, 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:20.800 and it's one of the you know. 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:24.000 If Kylie is you know, a blow dry or a 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.319 butterfly cart, you know, if Kim is doing a Mermaid 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.640 wave or the glass trend or something shiny, you know, 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.920 the biggest color transformations from black to blonde. But like, 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.240 don't do that. Yeah, I'm always kind of watching Chris 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.280 Appleton or you know, some of the other stylists and 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.120 just going, oh, did you really take her blonde? Why 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.440 would you do that to your whole entire headdressing community, 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.160 because it's going to haunt us for the next let's go. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.880 Yeah, then you guys, percussion, it's so fun. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:52.800 Yeah, think about that. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:54.640 It's crazy. It's domino effect. 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:59.080 So Undone kind of pulled back less about the structure, 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:00.440 less about the accessor it's. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.800 Less about the hair. Wow, it's just about it being healthy, 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:08.840 beautiful and really framing her face. You know deacloitage like 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.400 a little like one shoulder moment, but shiny healthy. I 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.160 think it's less about texture and more about gloss. 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.120 Question is that do you think their hair is actually 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.760 healthy or are their techniques that they like when you're 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:24.880 in the chair to make it look healthy. 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:30.240 It's definitely not the healthiest, but it's because you have 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.560 to understand like celebrities are like having the hair styled 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.920 all the times of day. You know, they might do 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:40.040 multiple looks a day, but at the same time, you 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.680 know it is being looked after h and axtension. 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:44.560 Yeah. 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.680 Models, I feel bad for models and actresses to be honest, 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.240 because their hair gets put through the ringer like they 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:51.040 don't have a lot. 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.520 Of I mean you would row. It's like, you know 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.680 how how aggressive was like being under that wig, for 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:57.760 how it's. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.040 Horrible being under a wig or getting onto set and 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.400 then being like, oh, we need a tongue your entire hair, 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.320 or yeah, we're going to straighten your head, Like you 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:06.400 don't have a lot of control over what's going on. 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.080 With the curl, so I can imagine for celebrities that 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.360 they would really have a lot of like damage that 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:12.440 they have to counteract. 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think having a really good 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.320 like hair care routine, Like I think most people are 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.600 so focused on their skincare routine and they always forget 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.560 their hair care routine, and it really should be a 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.080 part of your self care. So you know, it's having 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.920 a treatment ritual once a week, making sure you're wrapping 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:31.760 it up, even if it's for five minutes, shave your 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:33.240 legs and then rint it out, but just make sure 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.560 that you're caring, give you it a second. 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:38.760 I love it's such a big deal. I think curly 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.000 girls do that well because we have to. Yeah, so 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:41.760 everyone should. 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.920 It's like the best feeling having a hair care moment, 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.520 I think people. But I hate that people complain about 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.600 how expensive hair care is, but they spend so much 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:49.280 on skincare. 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:51.160 That's a double standard. 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.360 It's so funny because everyone's like, oh, you know, why 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.640 don't you do more brushes? And I'm like, because they 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:56.560 don't sell, And. 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:57.960 They're like, what do you mean see you buy one? 0:14:58.000 --> 0:14:58.120 Bro? 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:59.680 How many makeup brushes do you own? 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:00.640 Exactly? 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.640 You are twenty thirty forty and my comedy hair brushes 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:05.960 three one. 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:07.600 Yeah exactly, maybe a dead Maine. 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:11.360 I think maybe a Natalie and yeah that's it. 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:12.240 Yeah, that's so. 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:16.440 Yeah. But I also think we need more hair influences 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.560 explaining those little moments like why is it important? What 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:21.640 do you use this brush for? Yeah? 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:23.560 You know, so that's good. 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:24.840 You get me kick up the butt to do a 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.440 bit better with my hair influencing. 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.720 We should we should do we should do definitely more 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.400 education around that one. 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.160 Hundred per Okay, this is I'm excited to hear your thoughts. 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.560 What's your favorite hair accessory trend right now? I feel 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.720 like hair accessories are always in and out. 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.240 Sometimes they use more than others. 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:43.880 My favorite was bos for a while, but I do 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:44.760 think they're on the out. 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.360 I don't know, you don't know, bows, bows, bows and 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.520 more bows, like I just shot still come to your 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:55.280 campaign for Bleini and like it's bo obsessed. You know, 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.840 we just did fashion Week and we styled the whole 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.720 event with bows. Yea, yeah, it was like the whole 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.080 thing is bos. I don't think. I don't actually think 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.360 bows ever leave. They just get. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.320 Smaller, yeah, or they get bigger. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.960 Yeah, so I feel like a fashion week so may 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:15.360 we're seeing like really oversized bows and then now, I 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:19.240 mean in our most recent show, it was really delicate, 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.320 tiny baby bows, so like even like you you know, 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.400 if you're watching the AI filters, they've got like little 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:29.400 makeup baby bows. Filter. We recently did a show and 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.960 an incredible nail artist basically did our baby bow moment 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.480 on the nails. That's c they were like one meter 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:36.840 length long bows. 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:37.760 I did see that. 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.320 Yeah, so I don't I don't think they're on that out. 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:41.960 I think they're are. 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:42.480 They really human? 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.400 A date? What do you have any other hair accessory 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:46.200 things you like right now that are trending. 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:50.640 I've never been a fan of headbands. Why head shape 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.520 is it's eas for me? Like I hate that they 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.720 don't sit right and they're like a bow forward, and 0:16:58.040 --> 0:16:59.600 you know, maybe it's me. 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:01.960 I feel attacked. I wore a headband last week. 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.480 But do you like them? She puts it over anything. 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.239 I put it over my ears and then I like 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:08.720 having my hair over the top. 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:10.840 That's what it looks cute, very nineties than cute. 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:11.600 Yeah, that's when. 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.879 It looks like like the structured headbands. I know, it's like, 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.280 you know the structured headbands. They do that to the ears. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.960 like the Blair woldof. 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.520 Head should I do think from an accessory point of view, 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.240 it's layering the accessories. I think if you're gonna wear 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.520 one cuff, it's like boring, But if you do like 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.240 five cuffs, it's got cool. 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:32.680 Okay, yeah, that's cute. 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:34.320 I really love gold cuffs in the me too. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:34.760 Now. 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.480 Now, specifically for the curly girls, what's a curly hair 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.239 trend that you're seeing a lot of and do you 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:40.320 like it or not like it? 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:45.600 I think the biggest curly hair trend for me is experimentation. 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.320 So I feel like everyone over the last say four 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:53.639 or five years really narrowing their routine, their finger coiling, 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.360 their denman coiling there. You know, they're really understanding their 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.800 hair type. So now I feel like they understand how 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.160 to read define their hair properly. They're being a little 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:04.080 bit more experimental. 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:05.840