Speaker 1: Hey, beauties, It's Jamie, Joe and Jesse Masud and welcome
Speaker 1: to Skinfluence, a podcast dedicated to beauty, fashion and self love,
Speaker 1: turning your weakness into your uniqueness.
Speaker 2: Before we get started, we'd like to acknowledge the custodians
Speaker 2: of the land on which we record, the Gadagal people
Speaker 2: of the urination.
Speaker 1: We have a very special guest on today's episode. Internationally
Speaker 1: regarded as a leading hair artist, award winning expert, and
Speaker 1: social media instructor, Natalie Ann regularly works on branded collaborations,
Speaker 1: red carpets, runway shows, and global campaigns.
Speaker 2: Founded in early twenty seventeen, Natalie Anne Haircare was developed
Speaker 2: by Natalie Ann and her husband, Arthur James Adams. Following
Speaker 2: years of personal and insolent struggles with products that promised
Speaker 2: but didn't perform, Natalie and decided it was time to
Speaker 2: simplify their hair care game and create a solution that
Speaker 2: would bridge the gap between luxury and DIY.
Speaker 1: Please welcome Natalie and onto skim Fluence. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for coming in. If you guys an know Nat
Speaker 1: and me met, I don't know, maybe six yeah, well,
Speaker 1: Nata know, I met like six years ago and She's
Speaker 1: the first person to ever touch my hair besides like
Speaker 1: my auntie, and I trust her with my life.
Speaker 3: I feel so privileged, So thanks for coming in.
Speaker 1: She and she's also done Jesse's hair a lot. She's
Speaker 1: the only person I trust to do my wedding hair.
Speaker 2: Like I've decided, Oh ya, get me doing my makeup,
Speaker 2: you're doing my hair.
Speaker 4: I'm on it.
Speaker 1: You once told me that you're going to do three
Speaker 1: hairstyles for me my wedding day.
Speaker 2: That's I mean, I don't even know what we would do.
Speaker 4: You feel like if you're going to get me out
Speaker 4: of retirement, you might as well put.
Speaker 3: Me to retirement.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't do brides anymore. You're doing so that
Speaker 4: it leaves me available to do my love.
Speaker 3: Your best friends.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's well, Nat.
Speaker 1: You have been in the industry for so so long
Speaker 1: and you really have paid the way in Australia in
Speaker 1: terms of like hairstyling.
Speaker 3: Tell us a little bit about your journey.
Speaker 1: You told me before that you've been doing hair for
Speaker 1: thirty twenty three years, because you're thirty seven, and that
Speaker 1: is older than Jesse and my age.
Speaker 3: So that's crazy.
Speaker 4: I started hairdressing when you were one that's not crazy.
Speaker 4: And you were fourteen, I was fourteen. That's a family
Speaker 4: of hairdressers, my stepmom, my Nan, you know, all of
Speaker 4: them more hairdressers. So I think it was inevitable that
Speaker 4: I was going to become a hairdresser. I feel like
Speaker 4: hairdressing chose me, not the other way around. Every time
Speaker 4: i'd go visit my dad on the weekends, you know,
Speaker 4: I would be in a salon. So it was intoxicating,
Speaker 4: the smell, the addicted you do. And I think I
Speaker 4: was addicted to watching women like walk out feeling themselves.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 2: That's such lovely.
Speaker 1: So that's what really kind of inspired you to keep
Speaker 1: going with it most definitely, Well, then, how did you
Speaker 1: turn your love for hairdressing into an empire. You've got
Speaker 1: amazing following on socials, You've styled the most incredible people
Speaker 1: in the red carpet.
Speaker 3: Tell us a bit about that.
Speaker 4: I'm super over ambitious, and you know anything that my
Speaker 4: dad always told me. He's like, you know, if you're
Speaker 4: going to be a garbage collector, make sure you own
Speaker 4: the garbage, runny. If you're going to be a beauty therapist,
Speaker 4: make sure.
Speaker 5: You're so it didn't really matter like what I chose
Speaker 5: to do in my life as long as there was
Speaker 5: no ceiling or there was no cap And yeah, definitely
Speaker 5: culturally that drives like that ambition and my family.
Speaker 4: I've hired my entire family, so I needed to make
Speaker 4: sure that they were paid every week. I lied, my sister,
Speaker 4: my cousins, my husband's in the business now brother, Yeah,
Speaker 4: my brother, yep. So We've had lots of loved ones
Speaker 4: along the way, and I think that is really the
Speaker 4: driving force of you know, keeping those milestones, like ticking
Speaker 4: them off, which has been really good.
Speaker 2: Yes, how old? So fourteen years old? What age did
Speaker 2: you decide I want to do this by myself?
Speaker 4: Like I was twenty one when I left my sort
Speaker 4: of job and started my own business, which is very
Speaker 4: young when you think about it. But I was always
Speaker 4: working from home, like on the side, you know, trying
Speaker 4: to like make ends meet, because when you're a first
Speaker 4: year apprentice, like you don't make much money. And I
Speaker 4: was making two hundred and twenty dollars and three cents. Wow,
Speaker 4: exactly that you do? You get it in a check
Speaker 4: and it was in like this little envelope. You'd go
Speaker 4: to the bank and cash it in. Yeah, so it
Speaker 4: always had to do side hustles and jobs. Always work
Speaker 4: from home. I was a nightclub promoter.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, okay, yes.
Speaker 4: But also what it taught me is to basically build
Speaker 4: a database, like create content. Like back then, I used
Speaker 4: to take all of the club photos and send them
Speaker 4: out to everybody. So I was like, if I do
Speaker 4: their hair before they go to the club, I can
Speaker 4: start building out that network money. That's how the hustle
Speaker 4: sort of started, which is cool. Yeah, I started on
Speaker 4: MySpace before Facebook couldn't my age, but I started on
Speaker 4: MySpace through the data. So we had five thousand followers
Speaker 4: on my Space but that's really good, and then a lot, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was huge. And then Facebook. Yeah that grew to
Speaker 4: like a million.
Speaker 6: Whoa, and then.
Speaker 4: Instagram and then TikTok. I kind of I got guys,
Speaker 4: I got too tired.
Speaker 3: You're established now that you you know.
Speaker 1: It's not really like a necessity to be growing your platform.
Speaker 6: TikTok.
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about your favorite people that
Speaker 1: you've started on the red carpet, because if you guys
Speaker 1: don't know, and that's just like a boss. She's traveled la,
Speaker 1: She's done so many amazing people's hair, Like, give us
Speaker 1: a few of your faves.
Speaker 4: I think Desie Perkins.
Speaker 1: One of my wow Desi Perkins is like my dream girl.
Speaker 2: I was obsessed with.
Speaker 4: Her funny story on DESI. Actually she didn't find me.
Speaker 4: She didn't know who I was, but I was traveling.
Speaker 4: I was doing a PR tour in Vegas, LA and Miami.
Speaker 4: I think casually, casually, but I took my little brother
Speaker 4: with me, and at the time he was twenty one.
Speaker 2: He's a hustlers us.
Speaker 4: He's a hustler, So he was with me filming and
Speaker 4: he wasn't twenty one in women in Vegas, so he
Speaker 4: was so bored and he basically saw her and he's like, hey, nah,
Speaker 4: that's Daisy Perkins. Something nut's not He's like it is.
Speaker 4: So he runs up to her just before she's going
Speaker 4: into a lift. He's like, hey, how you doing. My
Speaker 4: sister's like the most famous hairdresser, so like where he
Speaker 4: did you need your hair done? And it's so funny. Sure,
Speaker 4: I don't know why she said yes.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 4: She was just like so, I didn't know her brother
Speaker 4: shoots her content, so I think she felt like this
Speaker 4: is super cute, and she was just like, yeah, literally
Speaker 4: in my DM the next five minutes going hey, actually
Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind my hairstyled, I'm doing something or other
Speaker 4: and that's what we did. It was so weird. I
Speaker 4: think we did like this at the time. I had
Speaker 4: a collaboration with Keller and we created these really cool accessories,
Speaker 4: so I put them in her hair. We did like
Speaker 4: a braided top nod and some like beachy ways. It's
Speaker 4: so beautiful. Yeah, so that was fun. In recent times,
Speaker 4: I just worked with Caroline Stanbury from Real Housewives. Yeah,
Speaker 4: her men are just so funny. We did a double
Speaker 4: like press day here that was really cool, like in
Speaker 4: and out of like you know, the Morning Show and
Speaker 4: all of like the radio networks. So we did a
Speaker 4: couple of different looks full flog, but it was it
Speaker 4: was fun.
Speaker 3: That's so cool. You get to meet so many different people.
Speaker 4: So different, lots of different personalities. I love working with
Speaker 4: boss women though. I think that sort of if you
Speaker 4: would say, who's my favorite type of client, Like I
Speaker 4: love women in business women like you, Yeah, but like
Speaker 4: someone like Lily Galici, she's a boss. Like I remember
Speaker 4: when I did her hair in HERLA she just did
Speaker 4: not stop working and I remember thinking to myself, this
Speaker 4: is so inspiring. Like she was at the time, she
Speaker 4: was still doing her lashes. She's a lawyer. But you know,
Speaker 4: there's so many things that you don't know about these influences.
Speaker 3: We have a whole other life.
Speaker 4: Like help them create that business.
Speaker 2: You know, what's fully involved in your business? What all
Speaker 2: the aspects.
Speaker 4: So we've got like multiple streams like to our business.
Speaker 4: We have our salon business, which is you know, it
Speaker 4: kind of runs itself now that was hardcore for the
Speaker 4: last ten years. We're celebrating our ten year sort of
Speaker 4: anniversary this year. My sister now runs that business. She's
Speaker 4: our head colorress and our color director's. Yeah, there's like
Speaker 4: eight stylists in there.
Speaker 3: It's iconic. Salon's iconic.
Speaker 2: It just looks, it's gorgeous.
Speaker 1: It's just such a vibe in there. So many amazing
Speaker 1: things have happened in that suthing.
Speaker 4: It really has like so many beautiful memories. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: I do love it, but I feel like the next
Speaker 4: chapter obviously, something I've been working on as a side
Speaker 4: hustle for so many years, which is our product line, Yes,
Speaker 4: Big Vibes. That is a completely different business. And that's
Speaker 4: a different beast, you know, Like I've always wanted my
Speaker 4: own product line, but being in product development you learn
Speaker 4: so many different things, you know. I'm so happy and
Speaker 4: grateful that I am a hairdresser, So you know, the
Speaker 4: R and D is so much easier because I know
Speaker 4: what needs to perform. I know the actives that I
Speaker 4: want in there, like and also being in the marketing field,
Speaker 4: I understand what makes the clients tick and what ingredients
Speaker 4: they're looking for. So I think it definitely is something
Speaker 4: that will be our focus for the next part of
Speaker 4: our career.
Speaker 3: But don't be too humble. You've been killing it your
Speaker 3: prep and play.
Speaker 1: Just want a major award, thank you?
Speaker 3: So what was the award?
Speaker 4: Tell me it was the Australian Hair Fashion Award the
Speaker 4: Best New Hairstyling Products.
Speaker 1: See, it is such a phenomenal goal. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: mean this is something that we've used multiple tubes of.
Speaker 3: Ourselves, but you have used.
Speaker 2: And I feel like anytime just in one go Literally.
Speaker 4: She's so every time she leaves the salon, I'm like,
Speaker 4: do you guys need more prep? Do you need more chocolate?
Speaker 3: Do you need more prep? It's a product that is
Speaker 3: so versatile.
Speaker 1: I remember, like you were redefining my curls and you
Speaker 1: didn't have a curl care be like, oh, let's just
Speaker 1: use prepp and play. You know, you don't usually use
Speaker 1: it for redefining curls, and my hair had never been
Speaker 1: that snatched ever, and you're like, wait a.
Speaker 4: Second, I know, so since then, it's crazy. And this
Speaker 4: is why I love working with you both. But you know,
Speaker 4: I think working with the same girls over and over
Speaker 4: and over and trying to like create new looks and
Speaker 4: find new formulas or ways to get around it, but
Speaker 4: that particular moment was like a game changer for me
Speaker 4: because we never used it to redefine curls or fingercoil
Speaker 4: or you know. And I love that. I feel like
Speaker 4: I've learned so much working with both of you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: just because you know your hair better than anyone else.
Speaker 4: So I think that's such a curly thing. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 4: and I always say it, I'm like, curly girls know
Speaker 4: their hair better than us, so like take their lead
Speaker 4: and just be their hands and absorb and try and understand.
Speaker 4: And I think that's my favorite part of my job,
Speaker 4: is really learning from my clients, like what they do
Speaker 4: and their routine, and I think more hair dresses need
Speaker 4: to lean into that like they've been born with this hair.
Speaker 1: That's much great advice for hairdressers because so many women
Speaker 1: with curly hair and men with curly hair really struggle
Speaker 1: to find a hairdresser they can trust because they don't
Speaker 1: listen to them.
Speaker 4: They just have to listen.
Speaker 3: Let's hop into some trends because I'm dyning here with
Speaker 3: your you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: What are some trends that you're seeing on the red
Speaker 2: carpet a lot? Lately?
Speaker 4: Red carpet is definitely a little bit more low key recently.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys have noticed, but we're
Speaker 4: seeing glassy, glossy, healthy, glazed, like juicy hair. Oh yeah, everything. Yeah,
Speaker 4: It's like everything is blown out. Everything is really undone, understated,
Speaker 4: and I feel like the garment is the hero, which
Speaker 4: is really beautiful. I do love that about red carpet.
Speaker 4: I think a really good hairstylist knows when to pull back.
Speaker 4: It should be the final tip. It shouldn't be the moment.
Speaker 4: It's always the one that just finishes the look.
Speaker 3: Where do you think that kind of influence is coming from.
Speaker 4: I'm going to definitely still say the Kardashians, I think, Yeah,
Speaker 4: where as much as people like to deny it, yeah,
Speaker 4: it is they really they really paved the way.
Speaker 1: I never you know, I kind of just dismissed that
Speaker 1: in my head because I definitely don't want to admit
Speaker 1: it either.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but most people don't, you know, but I would
Speaker 4: say that it's they are still the most referenced celebrity
Speaker 4: in so.
Speaker 1: When girls comings in your chair, they go, I want this,
Speaker 1: and it's one of the you know.
Speaker 4: If Kylie is you know, a blow dry or a
Speaker 4: butterfly cart, you know, if Kim is doing a Mermaid
Speaker 4: wave or the glass trend or something shiny, you know,
Speaker 4: the biggest color transformations from black to blonde. But like,
Speaker 4: don't do that. Yeah, I'm always kind of watching Chris
Speaker 4: Appleton or you know, some of the other stylists and
Speaker 4: just going, oh, did you really take her blonde? Why
Speaker 4: would you do that to your whole entire headdressing community,
Speaker 4: because it's going to haunt us for the next let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then you guys, percussion, it's so fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, think about that.
Speaker 4: It's crazy. It's domino effect.
Speaker 1: So Undone kind of pulled back less about the structure,
Speaker 1: less about the accessor it's.
Speaker 4: Less about the hair. Wow, it's just about it being healthy,
Speaker 4: beautiful and really framing her face. You know deacloitage like
Speaker 4: a little like one shoulder moment, but shiny healthy. I
Speaker 4: think it's less about texture and more about gloss.
Speaker 2: Question is that do you think their hair is actually
Speaker 2: healthy or are their techniques that they like when you're
Speaker 2: in the chair to make it look healthy.
Speaker 4: It's definitely not the healthiest, but it's because you have
Speaker 4: to understand like celebrities are like having the hair styled
Speaker 4: all the times of day. You know, they might do
Speaker 4: multiple looks a day, but at the same time, you
Speaker 4: know it is being looked after h and axtension.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Models, I feel bad for models and actresses to be honest,
Speaker 1: because their hair gets put through the ringer like they
Speaker 1: don't have a lot.
Speaker 4: Of I mean you would row. It's like, you know
Speaker 4: how how aggressive was like being under that wig, for
Speaker 4: how it's.
Speaker 1: Horrible being under a wig or getting onto set and
Speaker 1: then being like, oh, we need a tongue your entire hair,
Speaker 1: or yeah, we're going to straighten your head, Like you
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of control over what's going on.
Speaker 1: With the curl, so I can imagine for celebrities that
Speaker 1: they would really have a lot of like damage that
Speaker 1: they have to counteract.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think having a really good
Speaker 4: like hair care routine, Like I think most people are
Speaker 4: so focused on their skincare routine and they always forget
Speaker 4: their hair care routine, and it really should be a
Speaker 4: part of your self care. So you know, it's having
Speaker 4: a treatment ritual once a week, making sure you're wrapping
Speaker 4: it up, even if it's for five minutes, shave your
Speaker 4: legs and then rint it out, but just make sure
Speaker 4: that you're caring, give you it a second.
Speaker 2: I love it's such a big deal. I think curly
Speaker 2: girls do that well because we have to. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: everyone should.
Speaker 1: It's like the best feeling having a hair care moment,
Speaker 1: I think people. But I hate that people complain about
Speaker 1: how expensive hair care is, but they spend so much
Speaker 1: on skincare.
Speaker 3: That's a double standard.
Speaker 4: It's so funny because everyone's like, oh, you know, why
Speaker 4: don't you do more brushes? And I'm like, because they
Speaker 4: don't sell, And.
Speaker 3: They're like, what do you mean see you buy one?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 4: How many makeup brushes do you own?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 4: You are twenty thirty forty and my comedy hair brushes
Speaker 4: three one.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, maybe a dead Maine.
Speaker 4: I think maybe a Natalie and yeah that's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But I also think we need more hair influences
Speaker 4: explaining those little moments like why is it important? What
Speaker 4: do you use this brush for? Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know, so that's good.
Speaker 1: You get me kick up the butt to do a
Speaker 1: bit better with my hair influencing.
Speaker 4: We should we should do we should do definitely more
Speaker 4: education around that one.
Speaker 1: Hundred per Okay, this is I'm excited to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite hair accessory trend right now? I feel
Speaker 1: like hair accessories are always in and out.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they use more than others.
Speaker 1: My favorite was bos for a while, but I do
Speaker 1: think they're on the out.
Speaker 4: I don't know, you don't know, bows, bows, bows and
Speaker 4: more bows, like I just shot still come to your
Speaker 4: campaign for Bleini and like it's bo obsessed. You know,
Speaker 4: we just did fashion Week and we styled the whole
Speaker 4: event with bows. Yea, yeah, it was like the whole
Speaker 4: thing is bos. I don't think. I don't actually think
Speaker 4: bows ever leave. They just get.
Speaker 6: Smaller, yeah, or they get bigger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I feel like a fashion week so may
Speaker 4: we're seeing like really oversized bows and then now, I
Speaker 4: mean in our most recent show, it was really delicate,
Speaker 4: tiny baby bows, so like even like you you know,
Speaker 4: if you're watching the AI filters, they've got like little
Speaker 4: makeup baby bows. Filter. We recently did a show and
Speaker 4: an incredible nail artist basically did our baby bow moment
Speaker 4: on the nails. That's c they were like one meter
Speaker 4: length long bows.
Speaker 2: I did see that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't I don't think they're on that out.
Speaker 4: I think they're are.
Speaker 3: They really human?
Speaker 1: A date? What do you have any other hair accessory
Speaker 1: things you like right now that are trending.
Speaker 4: I've never been a fan of headbands. Why head shape
Speaker 4: is it's eas for me? Like I hate that they
Speaker 4: don't sit right and they're like a bow forward, and
Speaker 4: you know, maybe it's me.
Speaker 2: I feel attacked. I wore a headband last week.
Speaker 4: But do you like them? She puts it over anything.
Speaker 1: I put it over my ears and then I like
Speaker 1: having my hair over the top.
Speaker 6: That's what it looks cute, very nineties than cute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when.
Speaker 2: It looks like like the structured headbands. I know, it's like,
Speaker 2: you know the structured headbands. They do that to the ears. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: like the Blair woldof.
Speaker 4: Head should I do think from an accessory point of view,
Speaker 4: it's layering the accessories. I think if you're gonna wear
Speaker 4: one cuff, it's like boring, But if you do like
Speaker 4: five cuffs, it's got cool.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, that's cute.
Speaker 3: I really love gold cuffs in the me too.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Now, specifically for the curly girls, what's a curly hair
Speaker 2: trend that you're seeing a lot of and do you
Speaker 2: like it or not like it?
Speaker 4: I think the biggest curly hair trend for me is experimentation.
Speaker 4: So I feel like everyone over the last say four
Speaker 4: or five years really narrowing their routine, their finger coiling,
Speaker 4: their denman coiling there. You know, they're really understanding their
Speaker 4: hair type. So now I feel like they understand how
Speaker 4: to read define their hair properly. They're being a little
Speaker 4: bit more experimental.
Speaker 2: Which beautiful they want to play?
Speaker 4: They want to play, they want to put it up.
Speaker 4: I'm like, we're seeing so many girls actually wear their
Speaker 4: natural texture up, which is we've been dying how many
Speaker 4: times we have to preach this finally exactly well.
Speaker 1: I mean even in Bridle, I'm seeing so many more
Speaker 1: natural curly girls wear their natural hair to their wedding,
Speaker 1: which is stunning.
Speaker 4: Or like what I did for Olivia that was.
Speaker 1: Stunning, and I just recreated that on TikTok like a
Speaker 1: similar kind of updo. Because I went to a wedding
Speaker 1: over the weekend, I was going to say the same thing.
Speaker 1: I think that just girls men, they're actually just wearing
Speaker 1: their hair. That's the biggest trend for curls. People actually
Speaker 1: just love it. I love that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's taken Australia a really long time, but I
Speaker 4: think your testament to why that's happening, you know, because
Speaker 4: there is educators like you that are like confident and
Speaker 4: have taken their followers on a journey to be like,
Speaker 4: you know what, it's okay to wear your hair curly. Yes,
Speaker 4: for many years, it wasn't. It was unpref professional. It
Speaker 4: was not like I know when I was growing up,
Speaker 4: swat we have my hair curly? Like you looked messy.
Speaker 4: That's what they said. They're like, have you done your hair? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I'm like so mean it will. Back then, it wasn't
Speaker 4: like it was like it was an expeciation to blow
Speaker 4: dry your hair as a part of your uniform basically,
Speaker 4: So I am all here for it, and I'm very
Speaker 4: happy that curly girls are embracing their curls.
Speaker 3: I love it too.
Speaker 1: That's you know, that's what we're all about here.
Speaker 2: We've been loving doing rapid fire rounds, especially with our guests.
Speaker 2: It's really fun just to like get to know you,
Speaker 2: but in like short format, okay, super simple responses, simple
Speaker 2: one word answers, or you can elaborate a little bit
Speaker 2: just to get to know you more and your thoughts
Speaker 2: on hot topics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like off the top of your head. Just
Speaker 1: fire them off your nails. Are they your secret weapon?
Speaker 1: Do they make hairstyling better?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Show them, show them they're so good.
Speaker 4: And yes, my kids bombs are clean to.
Speaker 2: People ask you that they really do?
Speaker 3: What's so fun?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 4: That's my basiveliness?
Speaker 2: But ever, yeah, I'm sure it is.
Speaker 3: She takes that ladies.
Speaker 2: Okay, dream client jayl Jayla, come on, but can I
Speaker 2: ask what you what would.
Speaker 4: You do anything?
Speaker 3: Anything?
Speaker 4: Everything? To be honest with you, I'd actually probably take
Speaker 4: her back to natural.
Speaker 3: That would be like go through.
Speaker 4: The curb curls. I love that she has hustled her
Speaker 4: ass off. She has like regardless of what people think
Speaker 4: of her, like she's always been the underdog, and I
Speaker 4: hate it. She's like one of the most talented dancers, singers, performers, actresses.
Speaker 4: She's like a triple threat. Anyway, that's mine.
Speaker 2: You hate the that's the one word.
Speaker 4: I hate it.
Speaker 3: She's hot fire, she is hot. Come on, we can't
Speaker 3: deny that she's hot. Okay, what's your favorite hair tool?
Speaker 4: Oh? My volumeizing home.
Speaker 2: Full stop, the comb.
Speaker 6: I do like the COVID just I can't function with that.
Speaker 3: It's very good. It's very good.
Speaker 2: All right now? Favorite hair product? Yeah say that and
Speaker 2: I agree?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 1: What hair trend do you currently hate?
Speaker 4: Pammy?
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 4: The Pammy Anderson?
Speaker 1: Oh to die?
Speaker 2: Like you're over the b blow.
Speaker 4: Dry will know. It's like people think they know nineties.
Speaker 4: That's not nineties, Like that's not nineties. Like Pummy is
Speaker 4: textured and sexy and beautiful, but then Kim's rendition of it,
Speaker 4: I feel like, is the one that needs to go away.
Speaker 4: It's like done to death. It was beautiful, but it's
Speaker 4: like three years old. We're done.
Speaker 3: We're done.
Speaker 2: Okay, your biggest hair health don't.
Speaker 4: Diet? Yeah. I feel like when people go on hardcore
Speaker 4: binge diets and lose a lot of weight, they lose
Speaker 4: a lot of hair. Oh yeah, So I think when
Speaker 4: girls are like really worried about their waist, they forget
Speaker 4: what it's going to do to their skin and their hair.
Speaker 1: That's a really big one that I completely forgot about.
Speaker 4: You'll see a lot of hair loss.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, what's your biggest hair health to do?
Speaker 1: What do you really want everyone to start doing?
Speaker 4: Increase your fatty acids in your diet. Yeah, so like
Speaker 4: high A mega threes, like you know, fish, fish oil
Speaker 4: and like loads of it.
Speaker 2: So it really comes from within. What you're filling your
Speaker 2: body with really will affect your hair, your skin, and
Speaker 2: you're just beauty I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And hydration always I need to be better at that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. All right.
Speaker 2: Who's your favor beauty content creator at the moment or
Speaker 2: like someone that you look up to?
Speaker 4: Oh, it's good for me, you always, She's always paving
Speaker 4: the way, always will be, I think, because she has
Speaker 4: given everyone else an amazing platform.
Speaker 1: She has I as well. From Hudder three videos here
Speaker 1: posted on her page. They all hit like two three
Speaker 1: million views. One hit twenty million views, which is you know,
Speaker 1: Unspeakable only had maybe ten k at the time.
Speaker 3: And I went, wow, exploded.
Speaker 2: Love women who help women.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't think people realize what she did
Speaker 4: for creators.
Speaker 3: But just in the entire beauty community in general, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she changed really the game in a strep.
Speaker 3: Massively, massively. Okay, I have a funny one.
Speaker 1: What do you think of everyone cutting their hair off
Speaker 1: right now to their shoulters.
Speaker 4: I think they're going to regret it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we agree. I'm so done with the bobs.
Speaker 1: I mean, it looks really good on some people, and
Speaker 1: then when you if you have a round face shape,
Speaker 1: I'm like, girl, why are you stop doing?
Speaker 3: Don't do it?
Speaker 4: Look, I don't get me wrong. I think everyone can
Speaker 4: rock our short haircut. It's just the right haircut. And
Speaker 4: it should never be impulsive. It should never be breakup hair.
Speaker 4: If you break up with your man, the worst thing
Speaker 4: you could do, don't cut your hair hair off, Like,
Speaker 4: that's not a thing. Don't do that.
Speaker 2: I were talking about, like unless he.
Speaker 4: Really liked short hair. And then all of a sudden
Speaker 4: he got short hair. That's the only time breakup hair is.
Speaker 4: And never cut your hair on a full moon.
Speaker 1: Yeah well my okay, can you tell me if you
Speaker 1: think that this is true? My theater, My grandma has
Speaker 1: always told us, never cut your hair.
Speaker 3: On your period.
Speaker 4: Agreed.
Speaker 3: Yea, why because it's just the hormones aren't doing the thing.
Speaker 4: Because you can't make up your mind. Like that was right.
Speaker 4: She's like, I know her, she's a she's got her period.
Speaker 2: That means crazy. That's so good, that's so good. Your
Speaker 2: three favored beauty products at the moment.
Speaker 4: I love Curly Cue by Devo definitely one of my
Speaker 4: favorite brands. I love Pomegranate blush by n No, it's
Speaker 4: Laura Mercier.
Speaker 3: Oh, Laura Mercier. Okay say the many time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love Laura Mercier pomegranite blush like punching the face,
Speaker 4: like if you see it, it's like, yeah, very bright.
Speaker 4: And I would definitely say my third favorite is like
Speaker 4: cult favorite is qb qv.
Speaker 2: No like the v cleanser.
Speaker 4: I think after I had kids and I have really
Speaker 4: bad zoriasis exactly. It's really the only thing that doesn't
Speaker 4: like send me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, litl Knat's always had a history of you know,
Speaker 1: skin issues, so that's a great thing to know if
Speaker 1: you've got crisis exma, okay cool.
Speaker 4: And then the natural one like old school, but I
Speaker 4: would probably say we have like a Lebanese cake soap.
Speaker 2: Oh use that as well?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, it's basically made from olive oil. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: that would be my fourth fourth that's.
Speaker 1: Literally my dad is the only thing that he uses
Speaker 1: from head to toe is that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's called It's so funny because we're talking about
Speaker 4: like MPDA and what we want to create next, and
Speaker 4: someone was like, why can't you do a bougie butoh
Speaker 4: so yeah, that so true. Could you know when you
Speaker 4: put it in the shower.
Speaker 6: And it gets KUEI yeah, the goo man, I can't.
Speaker 4: Do cake so goo, don't you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Of course yes, wash it down.
Speaker 4: But even then, like how do you store it? Like
Speaker 4: it's a whole thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: It is a thing that it's like any bar soap
Speaker 1: kind of makes you a shower gunky Okay. Anyway, that
Speaker 1: was such an amazing episode.
Speaker 3: That was so much fun.
Speaker 1: So where can we find you and your products?
Speaker 4: Natalie and Hair on Instagram Naalien Haircare and Naliene dot
Speaker 4: com if you want to shop the range.
Speaker 3: Now, that's like my older sister, like my soul sister.
Speaker 2: So thank you man today, so much, Thank you so
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