WEBVTT - Anxiety, birth stories, and baby #2 panic

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<v Speaker 1>Ad A Lady, ad a lady, A lady ad Lady.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm filtered. Hey, welcome to another podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi guys, Hailey Pierson over there, we are at Lady Unfiltered.

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<v Speaker 1>We're besties. We're business partners where the creators of adel

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<v Speaker 1>Lady hollow I say, hey, lossy media, and we do

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<v Speaker 1>everything together except bad. All right, what are we talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Hailey Pierson? All right, today we're talking about your

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<v Speaker 2>morbid brain. Because your brain. Yeah, like I thought I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was morbid, I'm way more morbid than you are. You

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<v Speaker 1>feed my morbility though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a feeder.

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<v Speaker 1>You make everything worse.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are talking birthing stories, yes, because you are

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<v Speaker 2>in the thick of all your friends having babies, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're also crowning.

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<v Speaker 1>So hello, It's why I've got a.

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<v Speaker 2>Pillow here so it doesn't get awkward that you see

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<v Speaker 2>your hands come out.

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<v Speaker 1>I would deliver that baby for you in a heartbood.

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<v Speaker 1>I would, I would, I would. I would be grossed out.

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<v Speaker 1>I love every moment anyway. Well, let's start with our

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<v Speaker 1>memo the week though, like we do with every podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, so this morning I woke up. It's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about a bit, a bit, a bit of better

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<v Speaker 2>down the hallway, which I love. You know, one day

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<v Speaker 2>Sophia won't be running into our room.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I jump on the bed, she jump on the bed,

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<v Speaker 2>and we always like, how is your sleep? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>feeling good? Are you excited about your day? We ask

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<v Speaker 2>her all these questions, to which she replied, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>doing cuddles today. Are there any more questions?

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<v Speaker 1>What? Why she's so serious? I don't know such. She's

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<v Speaker 1>so intimidating.

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<v Speaker 2>She literally scares me'm I just want to love you,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's a tiny little dictator.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a dictator. I just want to love you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're my child, and we're just so excited to see

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<v Speaker 2>you because we haven't seen you all night, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to give you cuddles and love. No more cuddles,

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<v Speaker 2>other questions, And.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you set me a photo of her back to you,

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<v Speaker 1>just looking out the windows, staring into space.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, as I do her hair, as I put my caristas,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, expensive oil through her hair, and I brush

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<v Speaker 2>her hair. She can never say she had a terrible childhood.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you need to film all this stuff so she knows. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because she will grow up telling people that she was,

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<v Speaker 1>she will neglect it. My mem of the week is okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so the headline. The headline is Hailey loses the thumb.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay. This is completely my fault. And it's a

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<v Speaker 1>warning to you that you should not leave something if

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<v Speaker 1>it's got something to do with your health. Don't just

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<v Speaker 1>leave it okay, like you and I do all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody else I would tell them go and get that

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<v Speaker 1>shit fixed. But because it was me, I just kept

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<v Speaker 1>it going. I had a green thumb for about eleven

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<v Speaker 1>months and I kept covering it up, and no one

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<v Speaker 1>really was too phase by it, and I wasn't phased

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<v Speaker 1>by it. I was like, I will grow out or

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<v Speaker 1>grow out. And then about a week ago it started

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<v Speaker 1>having its own heartbeat and like throbbing, like really throbbing

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<v Speaker 1>and painful. And I said to my husband my thumb,

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<v Speaker 1>I think my thumb's infected, like it's so sore. And

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<v Speaker 1>he looked at it and he's like, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the doctor. You might have staff and you

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<v Speaker 1>might have to have your thumb cut off.

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<v Speaker 2>It actually looks like a pistachio nut.

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<v Speaker 1>It was worse than a mustachio. It was what is

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that everyone's eating at the moment, the chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate thumb. It was so ruined for you. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was so green that I went to get it all

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<v Speaker 1>shaved off. So they took all the thumb stuff off,

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<v Speaker 1>and it turns out it's just like it's a normal

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<v Speaker 1>thing everyone gets, well not everyone, but gross people like

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<v Speaker 1>me get it. It's like a fungal thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that you don't have a nail on there at

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<v Speaker 2>the post.

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<v Speaker 1>It's taken off. It's been taken off. It's disgusting. But

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<v Speaker 1>then I was thinking, like this is where my brain goes.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, so if I have to get

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<v Speaker 1>my thumb amputated, I'll only have four fingers, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>my painting hand, which means I won't be able to

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<v Speaker 1>paint or I'll be on like sixty minutes in a

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<v Speaker 1>few years time. Being that with four fingers, panote speaker

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<v Speaker 1>around the world talking about how I don't have a thumb.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your morbid brain. You went straight to your

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<v Speaker 2>thumb is about to be cut off? Yes, not just

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<v Speaker 2>oh my thumb is infected. I might get some antiseptic cream.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this leads us into what we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. So when people meet us, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you get this, but I get a lot that

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<v Speaker 1>you're very happy. You're a very happy person, generally quite happy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say I'm an excitable person. I get excited

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<v Speaker 1>very easily. But the dopamine leaves my body very fast

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We're up and we're down just as quick as we're up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, it's a wild ride. So my morbid brain, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably the happiest morbid person walking around on Earth, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say my brain until twenty three, I was carefree.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, and I know you were too, before

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<v Speaker 1>you experienced anything like trauma in your life. We were

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<v Speaker 1>so carefree. I did some dumb things. I lived on

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<v Speaker 1>the edge dangerously. I do things just because it would

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<v Speaker 1>make other people laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>I would laugh from morning, like from the minute I

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<v Speaker 2>woke up to the minute I went to sleep. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>everything was a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>And doing stupid things that were actually potentially life threatening

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<v Speaker 1>and dangerous that I wouldn't do now but kind of

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<v Speaker 1>risky and yeah, and it was fun. Like the adrenaline

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<v Speaker 1>was pumping. So when I it all started, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you now just so this is if this

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<v Speaker 1>is you going through this? Hopefully it can help. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you how this small but brain started and probably

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<v Speaker 1>my lowest point, and then how I've gone about trying

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<v Speaker 1>to fix it because I am in a better place

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<v Speaker 1>with it at the moment, even though you probably don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I am as crazy as I was. So it

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<v Speaker 1>started when I was twenty three. I just moved to

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland for work for radio with my husband, and I

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<v Speaker 1>got a phone call from Mum and Dad just saying

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<v Speaker 1>that my uncle had been killed in a car accident.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was that moment I remember where I was,

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<v Speaker 1>that the chemistry in my brain flicked and I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been the same since. And I was put on this

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<v Speaker 1>like trajectory going I'm gonna worry about every single person

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<v Speaker 1>that I love, and someone is going to die. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was obviously I was thinking about my cousins who

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<v Speaker 1>had lost their dad and thinking and feeling how they

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<v Speaker 1>would have felt when this all happened. And so from

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<v Speaker 1>then on I started really worrying all the time. If

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<v Speaker 1>Mom didn't answer the phone or if Dad did not

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<v Speaker 1>the phone, they were dead. Even now, I go on

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<v Speaker 1>life through sixty and I'll zoom in and if sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>and this has happened before, I'll go, why is mum

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<v Speaker 1>at s Andrew's hospital? Oh, my god, she's dead. My

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<v Speaker 1>brain goes to the worst and because because I have

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<v Speaker 1>this creative brain, I see things in my head. So

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought this. I've always thought this is normal,

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody else has this, but apparently it's not. I see,

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<v Speaker 1>when you tell me a story, I'll visually see it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm there in that story with you. So I

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<v Speaker 1>feel how I would if it was actually happening. Does

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<v Speaker 1>that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>So you always go to the worst case scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm seeing it and I feel it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>get the actual physical emotion coming out in me, like

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<v Speaker 1>the sweaty palms.

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<v Speaker 2>And things like that, the shooting yourself, all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So it started when I was twenty three, worrying about

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<v Speaker 1>my mum and dad, and then it got really bad

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<v Speaker 1>when I've had kids and with Jimmy, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>one moment where I was home with the two boys

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<v Speaker 1>and Jimmy was surfing, and every time he would surf,

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<v Speaker 1>I would see in my head him getting taken by

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<v Speaker 1>a shark or him being killed in a car accident

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<v Speaker 1>on the way down to Victor and my biggest fear.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've since found out that this is a common

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<v Speaker 1>fear is to have. And I don't know why two

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<v Speaker 1>police officers knocking at my door thinking telling me that

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<v Speaker 1>someone that I love has died. Right, I've always had

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<v Speaker 1>this weird vision. So I'm at home, I've got like

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<v Speaker 1>a one and a four year old Jimmy's surfing and

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<v Speaker 1>I do hear knock at the door. And we've got

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<v Speaker 1>one of those doors back then in our old house

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<v Speaker 1>where you see like the windows between the wood frames

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<v Speaker 1>so you can see people coming in and coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see out, and I saw two people coming

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<v Speaker 1>in uniform, and I'm not kidding. I went into the

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<v Speaker 1>full shock of this is it, It's about to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt my leaves gave way, I fell onto the

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<v Speaker 1>like the corridor I was. I was walking to the

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<v Speaker 1>door and I was like, oh my god, they're about

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me, Oh my god, this is happening. They're

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell me that jim is dead. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>was feeling everything. And then I opened the door. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not funny, but there were two Mormons standing at my door.

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<v Speaker 1>This sounds like a movie. There were two Mormons selling

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible at my door, and they weren't place. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never been happy to see Mormons in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, what's the famous Book of Woman there?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I pictured. Little Mormon outfits.

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<v Speaker 2>Have I never heard these?

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<v Speaker 1>I've told this before. I have never heard.

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<v Speaker 2>This because I know your brain and it's happened to me.

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<v Speaker 2>When you lose someone so close to you, everyone in

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<v Speaker 2>your life becomes their next, their next, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember Mum left her phone in the laundry. So after

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<v Speaker 2>my ex partner passed away, Mom left her phone in

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<v Speaker 2>the laundry, she got to her phone, there was like

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six miss calls and by the time she picked up,

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<v Speaker 2>I was screaming, wailing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're dad, You're dad.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, no, I just left my phone in the laundry.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't leave your phone in the laundry, Mom, fucking idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>She couldn't comprehend because even my mom, my mom has

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<v Speaker 2>managed to go through pretty unscathed, like in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>of she's lost her parents but they were like in

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<v Speaker 2>their nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but she has to be strong for you. She's

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<v Speaker 1>the mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so I was just like, why would you

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<v Speaker 2>leave your phone like and you and I like just yeap, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's we go.

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<v Speaker 1>To the worst. And it started I reckon when like

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<v Speaker 1>when I first had Austin and I was walking through

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<v Speaker 1>a house and we had tiles, and this is again

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<v Speaker 1>very more, but I would hear the sound of his

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<v Speaker 1>head cracking on the tiles, like I'm dropping the baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's fucked. It's so fucked. I hate my

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<v Speaker 1>brain so much. I have tried everything to stop these

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<v Speaker 1>awful thoughts, and I think age has helped me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, Like I'm I still go to those places,

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<v Speaker 1>like I still think of the worst, and especially at

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<v Speaker 1>an age now where I've got kids at eleven fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>and they're off like riding to their friend's house, say,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, riding and like driveways, I see all

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<v Speaker 1>the dangers. My dad's an alarmist. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>where I get it from. He's an alarmist, so he

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<v Speaker 1>sees the danger in everything, and he's put it onto me.

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<v Speaker 1>And now this is what I want to tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>I put it onto Olphie. So Alphie is eleven years old.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't tell you this last week. Well, you know

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago, an email from the school saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Alfie's in the sick bay. He's just eaten blue tag.

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<v Speaker 1>He thinks he's gonna die.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I cracked the joke that he was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>die to him, and that went down like a lead below.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is what I mean. You feed. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>good in these situations. So what okay, So when someone's morbid,

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<v Speaker 1>you need a friend that is going to say to

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<v Speaker 1>you everything's going to be okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not me.

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<v Speaker 1>You are the friend that goes like, so you'll actually

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<v Speaker 1>put the fear of God into me and go, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, is he gonna die?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he gonna die? Well no, because then you went

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<v Speaker 2>and picked up Alfie from the sick bait because he

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was going to die. And then he rocked

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<v Speaker 2>up and I was like, oh, Alpha, you're here for

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<v Speaker 2>like your last day on the planet to spend the

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<v Speaker 2>adel lady.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously to a morbid kid. Will I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny, and then I offered him chocolate.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah, and you looked at.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and you were just like, mate, stop, it's not funny. No.

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<v Speaker 1>He so I've accidentally somehow have passed this down to him.

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<v Speaker 1>So it happened again. Last week. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>he keeps eating shit at school, but I get a

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<v Speaker 1>call from the sick bait Hi. No, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I got messages from him on his little iPad going, Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dying. I've just eaten with Whizz Fizz in science

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I'm choking me and my best made

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<v Speaker 1>of choking. Help. I can't breathe, and I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell's going on? Then I talked to the lady

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<v Speaker 1>of the sick bay and she's like, he's at the

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<v Speaker 1>sick Bacon and he's saying that he feels really sick

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<v Speaker 1>and that he's got a headache and that he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to die. And I'm like, well, was this lady?

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<v Speaker 1>Are quiet talking? Yeah? Sounded like a pile hakee quiet talkers?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you please speak up? I can't hear you say

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<v Speaker 1>it loud? Can you yell at me from the sick bay?

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<v Speaker 1>What is wrong with my child?

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<v Speaker 2>There?

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<v Speaker 1>Anything worse is this? She was eating a banana as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm stuck in it.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, he's legit feels like he's going to die.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he said to me that night, Mum, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I feel like this year. I'm thinking about death

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, and I'm like, oh my god, stop, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry. I don't want to is onto you. But

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<v Speaker 1>because I am scared of everything, I probably do put

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of fear into them that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>hold back. If you are, I'll say to him, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna cross the street and a car comes, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>get flattened and you'll die.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're also slightly cooked in a sense of you

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<v Speaker 2>don't let your kids eat at home by themselves, nah,

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<v Speaker 2>because you think they're gonna die in choke.

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<v Speaker 1>I did it last night we were out Austin, my

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen year old, was there by himself. I made him

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<v Speaker 1>eat dinner before we left because I didn't want him

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<v Speaker 1>to eat. I hate my prey that ish.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I remember, I've heard the conversations Austin's at home

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, don't you dare eat? If I found

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<v Speaker 2>out you've eaten something, he could die of hunger, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Just let the kid eat. No, I would rather I

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<v Speaker 1>would die of hunger. That's a long death. That's okay,

0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:55.920
<v Speaker 1>dying of choking by yourself, Like that's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But he could.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally do you know what I said? This to my

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<v Speaker 2>mum once when we were oversea. My mum gets so

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<v Speaker 2>stressed when we go away. Anything could happen. The war

0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.000
<v Speaker 2>could break out, the plane could go down. Mum's stressed

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<v Speaker 2>about that. But when we were away there was an

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<v Speaker 2>accident where I stand all the time in the city

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<v Speaker 2>and a car went into pedestrians. That's right, And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Mom, I'm more likely to have died there

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<v Speaker 2>than I am to die.

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<v Speaker 1>You're seen you drive, Yes, she has. She goes like this,

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<v Speaker 1>she shuts her eyes. That's like you driving. Shut So

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<v Speaker 1>all right, if you've got it more of the brain.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a couple of things that I've done that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know might help you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be friends with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be friends. Can I just say, as a friend,

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<v Speaker 1>if I say I'm worried my mom is sick, don't say,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, me too. I know she's probably gonna die.

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<v Speaker 1>Say she's going to be fine. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 1>you're lying. I don't care if you're lying. Just tell

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<v Speaker 1>me everything's going to be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing to me, I need to be better. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>need to be I'm gonna light to you now.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I don't care. I'm fine with you lying, but

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<v Speaker 1>just keep me positive. Okay, that's what I tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I don't tell you things because I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make me feel worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Your thumb is fine. You are not going to die

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<v Speaker 2>of sepsis.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you. Okay. So this is what I've tried, hypnotherapy.

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<v Speaker 1>I went and saw a hypnotist, like a proper hypnotist

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<v Speaker 1>that do like they deal with people who are totally

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of needles and things like that. So I went there,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a session. I had two sessions, and they

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<v Speaker 1>talk me through how to combat having a morbid brain.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know for helped, but they gave me tools

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<v Speaker 1>I guess to think about when you are going to

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<v Speaker 1>that bad thought, to quickly pivot your brain to think

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<v Speaker 1>of something else. So when you know you're about to

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<v Speaker 1>think of that, think of the other thing. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? That stops you from thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that helped, but I think hypnotherapy

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<v Speaker 1>can be quite powerful. Dad's stopped smoking through hypnotherapy, so

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<v Speaker 1>you could try that. The other thing I've done is

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm I'm hardly medicated. You are high as a

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<v Speaker 1>cut I am on anti anxiety tablets. I won't say

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<v Speaker 1>the brand name or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>But what like Louis Vuitton or something Louis Bitton.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's made me feel lighter, like I don't go

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<v Speaker 1>to that dark place immediately. I just go to the surface,

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<v Speaker 1>but I still go there. And I also think, I

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<v Speaker 1>think what's happened is I'm always waiting if something everything's

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<v Speaker 1>good in my life, I'm waiting for the bad thing

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to happen. But then someone said to me,

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<v Speaker 1>the bad thing will happen one day, like your parents

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<v Speaker 1>will die one day. This will happen one day, So

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<v Speaker 1>why waste your life worrying?

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<v Speaker 2>Did I say that?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you never give insightful things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, did I say that?

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<v Speaker 1>So? Did I say that as your best friend? I

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<v Speaker 1>have another friend that something?

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I sort of did sound like something i'd say,

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<v Speaker 2>like one day everyone in your life will die. That

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<v Speaker 2>is something I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would say and put a real datner on those things

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<v Speaker 1>ruin your day. All right, So there's morbid brain tackled with.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope if you do have a morbid brain, I've

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<v Speaker 1>made you feel a little bit better about your own.

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<v Speaker 1>It's normal if you love things. The bigger the love,

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<v Speaker 1>the bigger the loss. Anyway. Yeah, let's move on to

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<v Speaker 1>birthing stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I mean you're looking at me. You can

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<v Speaker 2>see right now your best friend Laren has really Laren

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<v Speaker 2>and really just I'm wearing my pregnancy tights. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>wet hair. You're lucky. I put on a fucking bra

0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:48.760
<v Speaker 2>for you today.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I, I can't tell anyway, I have just given

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<v Speaker 1>up on life. Yeah, you're at that stage.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just over six months pregnant, and I am

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<v Speaker 2>I can't be fucked like, to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be honest, you gave up at four weeks pregnant. The

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<v Speaker 1>second you've found out you're like Lily. When I finished banging,

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I can't carry boxes anymore. Sorry, guys, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>four weeks pregnant.

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<v Speaker 2>We were in the office one day and everyone was

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<v Speaker 2>carrying like piece of babe.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't. I'm with child.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what? You actually have every right too

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<v Speaker 1>because you're growing another human being inside you. You are

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<v Speaker 1>growing a brain and eyeballs and eyelashes and livers and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, well, you've had two kids both pregnancies

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<v Speaker 2>very different, right, Yeah. First pregnancy for me, she was

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<v Speaker 2>a breeze. I was just I got through. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>really sick, just a little bit nauseous. At the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>everything was fine. This one has taken every single thing

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<v Speaker 2>out of me. I don't want to socialize. I don't

0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.600
<v Speaker 2>want to go out. I don't want to see people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get dressed. I like to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the shower. I like to be in the shower.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm having like four showers a day. Yeah, because and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm washing my hair four times a day. Hence why

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<v Speaker 2>it's wet, and because when the water hits me and

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<v Speaker 2>it's hot, I feel calm. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's your own space. Do you lock the doors

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<v Speaker 1>so no one else can come in?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't lock the door, like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be too harsh, but if anyone's lot might get.

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<v Speaker 1>A door, lock the door. They have a lock on

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<v Speaker 1>my door. And do you know a big tip as well,

0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.960
<v Speaker 1>when you can hear your screaming child out the outside

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<v Speaker 1>the toilet, you stand with a shower cap under the

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<v Speaker 1>water and you can't hear anything other than rain on

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<v Speaker 1>a tin roof. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, I'll do that. But I just I'm

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<v Speaker 2>at that point of I'm ready. I'm ready to have it,

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<v Speaker 2>but also I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Not ready for you to have it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know we've got so many things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not yet.

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<v Speaker 2>But so first pregnancy, I didn't do any reading. I

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<v Speaker 2>did absolutely nothing. I walked in to Ashford Hospital with

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<v Speaker 2>a blow dry, tan, nails done, and I said.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everyone over here to have a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>The midwife looked at me like, are you okay? I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, I'm just here to have a baby

0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:08.879
<v Speaker 2>and stuff.

0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:13.399
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you were but your your partner, Burgo

0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:14.760
<v Speaker 1>did all the reading for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And speaking of morbid brains. Him and my mom the

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<v Speaker 2>night before were messaging because I was having a cyrien

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<v Speaker 2>so so worried, so nervous, and before I went in,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. He looked at the obstitution and said,

0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.280
<v Speaker 2>you can't let her die. Please don't let her die.

0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.440
<v Speaker 2>As he cried. But I was listening to let's get down,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get down a beer.

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<v Speaker 1>So were you not nervous about anything? Why weren't you nervous?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't look into anything. I didn't know anything. At

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<v Speaker 2>one point they said you're afraid of needles. I was

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, and I looked over and saw the epi

0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:44.360
<v Speaker 2>epidural need.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is like huge horse trunk was like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Sword, and I was like, oh god, what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you about to do to me? And I

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<v Speaker 2>just got so like I remember looking at the uneathist

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<v Speaker 2>and I did the epidural and then they said can

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<v Speaker 2>you move your legs? And I couldn't move my legs.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what's supposed to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But from that moment on now I'm waking up at

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<v Speaker 2>night having full blown nightmares about not being able to

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<v Speaker 2>move my legs.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're having a CE session, so you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to move your legs otherwise you'll feel things,

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like that feeling like when someone says, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>move your leg and you go, Okay, I'm going to

0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.040
<v Speaker 2>move my leg and then I move my legs.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm starting to have full blown heart palpitation about what

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<v Speaker 2>part of it having the baby, Like I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to get to the point where I'm holding it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's lovely, but so that's what you need

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<v Speaker 1>to manifest in your head. You need to just think

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<v Speaker 1>about the moment of your holding her for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time and looking at her face, because it's going to

0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.480
<v Speaker 1>happen no matter what. Just think of that moment because

0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.879
<v Speaker 1>that is the moment while we all have babies, to

0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:50.720
<v Speaker 1>see that little face for the first time.

0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:53.000
<v Speaker 2>And they actually, I swear to God, they make you

0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:55.560
<v Speaker 2>forget all the pain you've had.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we go back tonight. Can I share this quote?

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<v Speaker 1>I think from memory Cal Wilson, who's no longer with us,

0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:04.480
<v Speaker 1>she told me this when I was pregnant with my

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.760
<v Speaker 1>first son and I was really nervous. She gave me

0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.560
<v Speaker 1>a quote that stuck with me forever, and it's if

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it was you, I wouldn't have been scared

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<v Speaker 1>so and it's so true. And you don't realize that

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<v Speaker 1>until you meet that little baby that you fall in

0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:23.159
<v Speaker 1>love with. If you knew it was that Sophia, you

0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:25.439
<v Speaker 1>would do anything to get to her. You do anything,

0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.480
<v Speaker 1>we open a million times, no pain, no drugs, no,

0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.560
<v Speaker 1>just do it. Just do it because it's you. So

0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:32.560
<v Speaker 1>keep thinking of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I ask, So, you've had two babies, Yeah, tell

0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.480
<v Speaker 2>me your birthing stories from one to two.

0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Sharing birthing stories. I love this hit. Yeah, okay, Austin

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<v Speaker 1>number one. I was terrified the whole pregnancy of it

0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 1>coming out of my fanny. I don't know why. I

0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 1>was like, how is that going to come out of there?

0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Like the burning pain, pain that I had in my

0:22:57.320 --> 0:22:59.800
<v Speaker 1>head visualizing it was just too much. I just knew,

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I knew that I was it was. He

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:03.359
<v Speaker 1>was never going to come out of there. So I

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.560
<v Speaker 1>even got one of those blow up things, you know,

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 1>those things you put it's so gross, you go, so, Jimmy,

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to the bedroom. I'm just going to

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 1>put that thing inside of me, blow it up, and

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 1>then push it out the balloon thing. Yeah, so it

0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of stretched perinea mary a fanny thing.

0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Can you massage your paranagum? No?

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Because I felt dirty doing that. I was like, this

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:22.359
<v Speaker 1>is so weird. I'm just going to go and play

0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>with my Okay. So yeah, so I did one of

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:28.639
<v Speaker 1>those things to push it to stretch it because I

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:30.520
<v Speaker 1>was so scared of the what's it called where they

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:37.200
<v Speaker 1>cut you from the anus to the fanny news's Oh

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 1>my god, that just terrified me.

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:42.200
<v Speaker 2>I used to think it was so far, but it's

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 2>actually only.

0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.120
<v Speaker 1>A little it's only a little centimeter or too near

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the two things that you don't you don't want to

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.679
<v Speaker 1>do it. No, So anyway, I went in. I was

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>always a small I had small babies, and I was

0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 1>one of those people that people always felt like I

0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 1>could say something to you, going, oh, you're small, is

0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 1>every thing okay? And then don't say that to a

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 1>pregnant woman. Don't comment on the size of her tummy

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 1>because it's gonna make her worry.

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 2>And I'm carrying mine and my hips and my ass

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 2>so like I've got these low, I'm low, and I've

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 2>got ways. Oh they come up all the word cover

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 2>my boobs, they're such a big don't yeah, don't comment

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 2>on how people carry. So anyway, I went in early

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:27.359
<v Speaker 2>to have to be what's it called the stretch and

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:29.600
<v Speaker 2>sweep thing? Oh did you have a stretch and sweep?

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh? That is actually the most painful thing. When they

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:39.119
<v Speaker 1>put their fingers inside you and they stretch. Oh my god,

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:43.199
<v Speaker 1>that burning feeling of it being stretched by fingers. To me,

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 1>that was the worst. So I went into. I did that,

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>and then I did the Oh my brain is it

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:50.879
<v Speaker 1>working today? What's the thing where they put you in

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 1>and they induced you, so I was being induced. So

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.919
<v Speaker 1>then I started to have contractions because I had the

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 1>worst braxton Hicks the whole pregnancy. It just felt like

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 1>braxton Hicks to me. And this beautiful nurse was in

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:04.360
<v Speaker 1>there giving me milos, and I was okay, and then

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:06.919
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, I didn't notice that there was

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:09.159
<v Speaker 1>any drama. I didn't notice the drama at all. I

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.719
<v Speaker 1>was actually in an okay space. But all of a sudden,

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>it was like three am, and my obstetrition rocked up.

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>And she had been out that night before, and she

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 1>was looking very glamorous, and I'm like, why is she here?

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>And they just looked at me and said, we need

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>to take you to have a cesarean because your baby's

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>heart a heart rate has dropped, so we're going to

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 1>go upstairs and within forty five minutes you're gonna have

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 1>a baby. Wait, did Jimmy know this, No, they just

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 1>told us at the same time. And I didn't have

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 1>time to worry or think about anything. I hadn't even

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:41.360
<v Speaker 1>looked into cesareans. I had no idea how they were

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.879
<v Speaker 1>even going to work. And so before I knew it.

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I was being wheeled out, going oh my god, but

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>they kept me really calm. I didn't know until after that.

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:51.439
<v Speaker 1>It was a bit of touch and go for a

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 1>while because the court they think the core was wrapped

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>around his neck from stress. So anyway, I went up there,

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:01.879
<v Speaker 1>they cut me open. He came out and it was

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the most amazing thing. But C section number two was

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 1>actually worse because when you walk in, it's such a

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>weird feeling walking in to the hospital, walking into the

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.199
<v Speaker 1>room and going Okay, I'm gonna lie down and in

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>three minutes, I don't have a baby. It's such a

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 1>weird thing.

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Mine took fifty nine minutes.

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Did it? Why don't it take so long to cut

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>you open?

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:24.640
<v Speaker 2>The epidural took a little bit.

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, the epple du you know.

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Can you just bend over You've got this giant stomach, like, yeah,

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, cool, I'll bend over, like keep going, no,

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:33.359
<v Speaker 2>I'll keep bending over. No, it's fine. This is reirdly.

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>And then they drag you from one bed to the

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 1>other bed and then it's all hot. Your body goes.

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>All hot and I'm trying not to ruin my blow dry.

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like Oh, I didn't give a fuck about

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that shit.

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to look nice because I kind of knew

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.439
<v Speaker 2>that my child would be judgmental, so I wanted her

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:47.360
<v Speaker 2>to make she would.

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 1>Totally judge you.

0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:50.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you could have done something with your hair.

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe a liqu of makeup would have.

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Been nice, maybe a bit of ten. But then it's okay,

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 2>we'll work on that.

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Our fee was different though. It wasn't the birth that

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I probably would have pictured. It wasn't like a beautiful, like, ah,

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>this is so amazing birth, miracle birth kind of thing.

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 2>What was harder the first one or the second one?

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Because the first one you went through shit because you started.

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Vain and I didn't know anything. I do you know what?

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:15.879
<v Speaker 1>I think we've just worked it out. I didn't know

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>anything about sea sections and it was fine. You didn't

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>know anything about birthing and you were fine. So maybe

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>don't read up about stuff. So this is the thing.

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm just you know what you're getting yourself into. You

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 2>remember that pain, you remember not being able to move.

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 2>I remember, like you know, burgo having to like put

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 2>my undies on and put the maternity pattern.

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, can we just talk about the best

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>moment ever is after you have a sea section, you're

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>covered in that red stuff all the like the antiseptic stuff.

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Having a shower and getting your partner to wash you

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 1>in the shower is actually the most romantic thing he's

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:54.640
<v Speaker 1>ever done for me in my life. It was the

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 1>best feeling in the world because you're so dirty, sitting

0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 1>in your blood for a couple of days.

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 2>No, it's just it's a lot. And you know what

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 2>the other thing is as well. You know, we've often

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:07.160
<v Speaker 2>spoken about like, don't comment on women's weight. Also, don't

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 2>comment on how people give birth. No, however you want.

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:12.919
<v Speaker 1>To do it, be a hero. Don't have any drugs.

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 1>That's fine, you do you.

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't care if you want to do pig cesarean,

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 2>choose vaginal whatever in the end, as long as the

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 2>baby is safe and that it matters. But I remember

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 2>so you would have. You know, a few years before

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I gave birth to Sophia, I had some bummy shoes

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 2>damage my pelvic floor. So they said, we strongly advise

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 2>that you have a cesarean, and I'm like, I'm not

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 2>going to argue that because I kind of wanted one anyway.

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 2>You're telling me to have one.

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Great.

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 2>But I remember having a conversation with someone I don't

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 2>even know and she was like, oh, so when are

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 2>you having the baby. What's happening. I was like, Oh,

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm booked in for a sea section on blah blah

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 2>blah dah.

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>She goes, you've.

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Chosen to have a sea section. Yes, yeah, I have.

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh so you're not going to try.

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Try I was just going to get my health baby out.

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, I'm getting cut seven stuff.

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Does it matter how you get it out? No? And

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>she was young. I was like, don't have a plan.

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>When people have a plan, and it's really hard. I

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>think for people who are like maybe eas and really

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>organized people, not us. Not us. That's probably why it

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>was okay for us, because we are the shambles and

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>it was all chaotic.

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 2>The only plan I had was my playlist of music.

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but even then, I mean, great, bring that in.

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:30.239
<v Speaker 1>But even then things just go out the window and

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>you just have to roll with it. And hearing them

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>cry for the first time and seeing their little face

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and going I made you and you're the person that

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I have been talking to for the last nine months

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>is so amazing. And I can't believe you're about to

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>have this again, that feeling.

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I actually want to play the audio. We've got some

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>audio from my birth.

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Is that the one where you're yelling and screaming?

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm very calm. We can actually play it to you.

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>It's the beginning a little bit now.

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 2>The anethetist assistant took my phone. I didn't know this

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 2>until eleven o'clock at night. Everyone was asleep, and I

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 2>looked at my phone and there was two hundred photos

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:10.479
<v Speaker 2>and videos of my birth.

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I love this. Listen to this, crazy

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>my baby, Are you okay? Hello?

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>That was the moment that Sophia was born, and I

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 2>always aliken it to that moment in the Lion King

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 2>where it's just like nudd she mama. She came out

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 2>into this world, looked around, sussed everything.

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Judged, you judged me.

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh, here we are you guys. That moment for me,

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually that's that's the thing that I can't wait for.

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 2>That that that moment of seeing that new person that

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 2>you already love. I already love this baby. You've never

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 2>even met a baby, but you love them already. But

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 2>then you get to see.

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Them do you know a really beautiful thing about Sophia

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>is before you had Sophia, and we're talking years before,

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>you would always talk about your Sofia. Yeah, that one

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>day you're gonna have a little girl was fear.

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 2>I was fifteen. I remember I said, one day I'm

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>going to have a little girl called Sophia. And virgin

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I always spoke about it. We had a few names,

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 2>but we were always like, if she looks Italian and

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>has her dark features and dark hair, she'll be our Sofia.

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 2>And I remember when she came out, she had a

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 2>full head of hair, like no wonder I had.

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>It was like Kim Jong un, like a full sweet.

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I went, okay. We both actually looked at each other

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 2>at the same time. You know how some people debate,

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 2>like Burgo's got friends, they took a week to name

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 2>their baby.

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Hate that. Just tell me the baby's name raight away.

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>He's a baby.

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 2>She's been born, no name yet, no name the next day,

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 2>no name the next day.

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>You had nine months to come up with a name.

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 2>But we literally looked at each other and we both

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 2>said at the same time, Sophia.

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<v Speaker 1>We just knew you're little Sofia. Yeah, I am. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I am so excited that this is about to all

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<v Speaker 1>happen again for you. I'm just like, I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>for that phone call and for you to experience it again.

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<v Speaker 2>And I still remember that time you ran into the

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<v Speaker 2>hospital the next.

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<v Speaker 1>Day and you got to hold her. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>her little face. Yeah, it's a mini you. I just

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<v Speaker 1>saw you and ergo in this beautiful little bubba and

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<v Speaker 1>I love her so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you do, and that's the best thing, you know, Aunties.

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<v Speaker 2>Sophia calls you Auntie Hayley. Yeah, but just because you're

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<v Speaker 2>not related doesn't mean you're not her auntie.

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<v Speaker 1>Like she often says to me, Auntie Hayley, are you

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<v Speaker 1>my family? And I will go I'm not technically your family,

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<v Speaker 1>but i'm your auntie and she's like, yeah, you're my family.

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<v Speaker 2>You're my family. You are family. You are our family.

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<v Speaker 2>And you love her and I love your kids like

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<v Speaker 2>we're all family.

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<v Speaker 1>Were so intertwined. I love this so much. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a really emotional friend sitting next to me right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to go and have a lightdown. I do actually, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh birthday stories, Hey, if you have one you want

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<v Speaker 1>to share with us in box us anytime, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>always on social media. We're like addicted to it, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll always be there, especially when I'm a mat leave mansta.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah all right, we love you girls and boys. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a great week, guys. Love your