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Speaker 1: The city and with Kate Ritchie podcast. This is the

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Speaker 1: story I think that everyone will be talking about today.

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Speaker 1: I know it's been covered in the news, but Meghan

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Speaker 1: and Harry have been involved in what they're calling a

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Speaker 1: high speed chase in New York City by paparazzi. They

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Speaker 1: attended the Women of Vision Awards in Manhattan. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you've seen the photographs roading around. She did, and she

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Speaker 1: spoke beautifully, apparently, considering you know that the night didn't

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Speaker 1: even start out well. They arrived, she stepped out of

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Speaker 1: a darkened suv onto the red carpet. She looked beautiful.

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Speaker 1: She had kind of a goal the gold dress, strapless

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Speaker 1: stress on, and Harry was there, fresh back from the coronation.

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Speaker 2: She had a denim jacket as well, with pearls sold

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Speaker 2: into the.

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Speaker 1: Not the pearls, the beads. Okay, with a few little diamonds.

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Speaker 1: I'm heading into middle age. I'm going to be wearing

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Speaker 1: that an animal print from now on.

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Speaker 3: It works. Her mother was there as well. It was

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Speaker 3: a very special night, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: But it was, But it's started out being ruined by

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Speaker 1: them reaching the red carpet and a hecla at an

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Speaker 1: event like this, saying something like, how do you feel,

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Speaker 1: Megan about being part of two broken families? This person

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Speaker 1: yelled at her, and I'm guessing she just continued to

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Speaker 1: smile and head into the into the event. I guess

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Speaker 1: they're obviously referring to her ruining the royal family and

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Speaker 1: coming from a broken family herself. The night ended and

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Speaker 1: they wanted to make a quick getaway. They were going

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Speaker 1: to stay at some friend's house apparently, and for security reasons,

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Speaker 1: they don't want the paparazzi to be following them to

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Speaker 1: a friend's house to find out, you know, all of

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Speaker 1: the addresses perhaps that they visit. So the plan was

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Speaker 1: for them to jump into a taxi, and that didn't

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Speaker 1: turn out well because the paparazzi jumped in their own

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Speaker 1: cars and started following them. Apparently the cab driver was

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Speaker 1: saying things about them chatting in the back, that it

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Speaker 1: was really high and emotionally, Megan was saying, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, and I think really it just reminded

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Speaker 1: everybody of what happened to Harry's mother. Even the Mayor

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Speaker 1: of New York did speak about it.

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Speaker 4: The briefing I received two of our officers could have

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Speaker 4: been injured.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's many.

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Speaker 4: Of us who don't recall how his mom died, And

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Speaker 4: it would be horrific to lose an innocent bystander doing

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Speaker 4: a chase like this and something to have happened to

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Speaker 4: them as well. Any type of high speed chase is inappropriate.

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Speaker 3: I would find it.

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Speaker 4: Hard to believe that there was a two hour high

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Speaker 4: speed chase. That would be I find out hard to believe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's an element of doubt there about what

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Speaker 1: the details are. But because what they did do is

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Speaker 1: they realized the taxi driver was probably in danger as

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Speaker 1: well and probably wasn't as well equipped as their usual

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Speaker 1: security team, so they did circle back and get into

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Speaker 1: their own security vehicles, and of course the news is

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Speaker 1: track down the cab driver. This is what he had

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Speaker 1: to say about it. Those people they look nervous.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think they were chea being chased the

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Speaker 5: whole day or something, so they were pretty nervous. And

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Speaker 5: next thing, you know, Prince Harry and his way for

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Speaker 5: harping into my cap. And as we went a block,

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Speaker 5: we got blocked by a garbage truck and all of

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Speaker 5: a sudden paparasi's scheme and started taking pictures.

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Speaker 2: They were just about.

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Speaker 5: To give me the location where they were gonna go,

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Speaker 5: but then they told me to circle back to the precinct.

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Speaker 3: So we circle back to the present.

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Speaker 1: I know, you said, FITZI. I mean the paparazzi or

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Speaker 1: the press. They already had, you know, a whole camera

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Speaker 1: full of images of them on the night they were

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Speaker 1: on the red carpet. There would have been photographs taken

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Speaker 1: within the event. They had scored pics of Meghan and

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Speaker 1: Harry and the mum Doria. She'd spoken. They had a

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Speaker 1: news story already. So what is the benefit of them

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Speaker 1: harassing to people and approaching a stopped car and taking

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's the fact that there's a royal in a taxi.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you don't see that often. They could have

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Speaker 6: been extra money in that, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I think the other reason was they didn't want to

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Speaker 1: No, Because the other thing is too then they become

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Speaker 3: I guess do you see when you come out of

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Speaker 3: can you see them in the bushes and stuff like that, hiding?

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they're in the book, Sometimes they're in the bushes.

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Speaker 1: I remember being at the gym once and looking out

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Speaker 1: they're doing whatever it was I'm doing. Thank god, I

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Speaker 1: But I think the majority of the time they don't

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Speaker 6: Where was what's the most extensive you've seen them go to?

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Speaker 6: Like where they've made an effort to work out where

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Speaker 6: you are. Can't believe they've appeared there.

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Speaker 1: Well, I came out of the gym once and then

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Speaker 1: kind of caught me by surprise, and it actually really

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Speaker 1: frightened me. And I think that's the point about this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's up. And please don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: I'm so far from Megan and Harry and I do

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Speaker 1: not have this level of intrusion. So don't get me

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Speaker 1: wrong when I'm talking about this, but it's not up

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Speaker 1: for other people to decide what is aggressive to you

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Speaker 1: and what is frightening to you and what instills fear

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Speaker 1: and I have had times where I have felt uneasy,

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Speaker 1: that we're going to dancing or we're going to the park,

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Speaker 1: and it's not okay for you to follow a woman

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Speaker 1: in a car, or follow anyone in a car. Really,

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Speaker 1: but it's really unnerving and for it to continue, even

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Speaker 1: when at times I have approached these people and said,

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Speaker 1: you are frightening me. Please stop doing this. And I've

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Speaker 1: even been in tears about it. Please stop doing this.

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Speaker 1: Why you hear? How long have you been here? Please

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Speaker 1: just please stop?

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Speaker 3: What do you get?

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Speaker 1: Nothing?

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Speaker 3: Just doing my job? Man?

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Speaker 1: Just let us get it. Just please let us take

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Speaker 1: can you stop wearing black jim gear because we can't

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Speaker 1: get a different job. Can you start wearing color?

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Speaker 6: I've heard about that of why celebrities wear the same

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Speaker 6: therefore they can't sell them. But I've heard also that

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Speaker 6: you get someone like a huge jackman and they'll follow

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Speaker 6: to be down at Bondai Beach at eight o'clock in

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Speaker 6: the morning, I'm going for a swim. If you want

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Speaker 6: to take photos, then you can get your photos.

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Speaker 3: I don't mind.

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Speaker 6: You're getting your shots and then leave me alone for

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Speaker 6: the rest of the week.

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Speaker 2: But so you don't want to be this is the thing.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to be setting up dates with them

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Speaker 1: The freedom he wouldn't be getting paid for that, whereas

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Speaker 1: I think with other peope, well they do set it up.

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Speaker 1: But I guess once you've engaged in that kind of

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Speaker 1: is what has happened with Meghan and Harry too, and

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Speaker 1: probably why they got out of the taxi. It is

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Speaker 1: unfair for them to put the pressure on a you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't mean a mere taxi driver, but a guy

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Speaker 1: it doesn't It doesn't matter how safe you want to be.

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Speaker 1: You are going to drive in a fashion that you

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Speaker 1: or when other people, like the mayor said, some an

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Speaker 1: taking a quick left turn. And then what's the benefit

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Speaker 6: We were saying when we how do you and the

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Speaker 6: mayor was indicating, how do you have a high speed

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Speaker 6: chase through New York? Doesn't really matter the speed of it.

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Speaker 3: If it was.

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Speaker 1: Intensified, well, the intimidation is still there regardless.

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Speaker 6: So then, as he said, two officers could have been hit,

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Speaker 6: the public could have been hit. Forget the speed, it

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Speaker 2: We have tracked down the cab driver that had Harry

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Speaker 2: and Meghan in the back of his cab in New York.

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Speaker 3: Now, this was a.

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Speaker 2: Near catastrophic car chase that happened for two hours. They

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Speaker 2: looked very, very nervous, and Sonny Singh, We've tracked him

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Speaker 7: Now, good morning, Sonny, Hey, good morning, how are you doing.

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Speaker 6: Good, Sonny? Thanks for coming on the show mate. Can

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Speaker 6: I firstly ask when things got quite heated and scary?

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Speaker 6: Can you describe what the situation was like for us

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Speaker 7: Oh situation in the cat see I was calm, but

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Speaker 7: their situation was different because it was being chased by

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Speaker 7: So they looked to see nervous, you know, I scared?

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Speaker 3: Was they yelling and peg and none?

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Speaker 7: There was no yelling and panic, but the looks on

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Speaker 7: They'd been through this past two hours.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm guessing that there were some phone calls being

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Speaker 1: made because the choice had been made to get into

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Speaker 1: who was being called at that point?

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Speaker 7: There was nobody being called. He was talking to some

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Speaker 7: the other guy, Hey, we're coming your wave, and then

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Speaker 7: he was just about to give me the address, but

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Speaker 7: the top bosses came out of nowhere and just started

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Speaker 7: flashing the car with cameras. They was founded the whole

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Speaker 7: started honking a blast of horns. The guard was struck, moved.

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Speaker 7: We went around the block and dropped the back off

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Speaker 7: at recent thing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, how many guys on scooters? Sonny?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: How many people were surrounding the cab?

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Speaker 7: There was guys on a spooter, maybe one guy in

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Speaker 7: a scooter, both of us, one in two cars. There

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Speaker 7: were two cars that were following us. There was one

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Speaker 7: a HANDT and a hand CRV.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel sorry for them, Sonny, like we used

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Speaker 2: hitting in the cab going on this is this is

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Speaker 2: not a very nice love to live.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what it is. It's tough for them,

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Speaker 7: right because there was his name, Harry lost his mom

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Speaker 7: to a pop poppy chasing their mother. So I think

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Speaker 7: they experienced more thematic than mine, right because they were

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Speaker 7: in the cab with me only fifteen minutes, Sonny.

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Speaker 7: They both was you know, they're the nervous I mean,

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Speaker 7: they know what was going on back there. Somebody did say,

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Speaker 1: And when they approached the car, were they were they

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Speaker 7: They were they were not. They were not hitting the car.

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Speaker 7: They were not hitting a car, but they this around

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Speaker 7: the car. There was standing in the fun flashing us.

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Speaker 7: So that's why I had my either down or you

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Speaker 7: And then we circled back with the pop boss. You

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Speaker 1: Yeah okay. And and this is a very unique experience

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Speaker 7: Listen, if he's driving New York, anybody there's got to

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Speaker 7: be a defensive vibe here. Right, So it wasn't that

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Speaker 7: bad for me? I said, It's pal a worth experience

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Speaker 7: for him than his wife and the lady that was with.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, how is it something they put up with

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Speaker 2: The question I want to ask, the big question we

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Speaker 2: need to ask, Sonny, did they pay for the cabra?

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Speaker 3: Did you get did you get paid?

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Speaker 7: Guy paid for the cabra? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Oh, there you go, Sonny. You're a superstar there, You're famous.

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Speaker 3: Now we have a time.

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Speaker 2: We have a television show down here in Australia called

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Speaker 2: Married at First Sight. Would you ever think about coming

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Speaker 3: Sonny?

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Speaker 7: You know I'm already married with two kids.

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Speaker 3: Dam Have you ever? Sonny? Have you ever had any

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Speaker 3: Is Donald Trump in the arald you know?

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Speaker 7: You don't know? No, I don't know, but I had

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Speaker 7: like means like RICHARDA. They're a pretty nice but never

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Speaker 1: You know, he's continuing your shift. When when is a knockoff?

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Speaker 1: Time for you?

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Speaker 7: Not time for me? I probably are like twelve thirty.

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Speaker 3: Goodness, Sonny, just quickly.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because I just thought it.

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Speaker 6: Sonny, the stories we hear about a panic situation where

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Speaker 6: it all sounds a little bit more dramatic than maybe

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Speaker 7: Listen, right, we right drive in New York City, So

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Speaker 7: you know, I don't know it wasn't that dramatic, but

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Speaker 7: I'm you, their experience is much different than mine. Tonight,

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Speaker 7: drive in New York, day out, every day right there.

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Speaker 7: Experience is much different than mine.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a very good point, Sonny.

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Speaker 2: Dancing with the stars?

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Speaker 7: I doesn't want to do that.

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