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Speaker 1: It sits him with her.

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Speaker 2: With Kate Ritchie podcast.

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Speaker 3: Here's one getting around on social media. I wanted to

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Speaker 3: play for you this morning. I want you to ask

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Speaker 3: yourself the question, what would you do in this situation?

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Speaker 3: A lady has gone on TikTok and described a situation

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Speaker 4: Have a lesson.

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Speaker 5: I'm a little bit upset this morning. My partner had

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Speaker 4: He called me.

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Speaker 5: I had to take him to the hospital, and then

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Speaker 5: I discovered I had to get something off his phone.

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Speaker 5: Then I discover he's got a Tinder app. I need

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Speaker 5: to discover that he's been talking to twenty women talking

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Speaker 5: to them on Snapchat as well. So then when I

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Speaker 5: confronted him, he said, it's not cheating because I didn't

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Speaker 5: want to meet up with any of them. I just

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Speaker 4: The result is she's left him.

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Speaker 1: Of course, aren't there other apps for making friends?

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Speaker 4: Of course? Facebook?

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Speaker 1: Mind well, Instagram or just going out or joining a

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Speaker 1: cycling club.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, MySpace. I mean I still find a lot of

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Speaker 6: friends in.

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Speaker 3: My Space and the comments underneath her I believe, Well,

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Speaker 3: my husband did the same he's gone, he's riding a scooter.

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Speaker 4: He's not your boy's girl. That's your girlfriend. Bye bye.

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Speaker 3: That was no accident. Relationship is over. Don't look back.

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Speaker 3: That accident sounds like karma.

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Speaker 4: Shame. It was on a bus. People are blowing up

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Speaker 4: about this guy. I agree.

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Speaker 6: Even if your partner has the Tinder apps still on

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Speaker 6: their phone, I don't care how long. Even if this

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Speaker 6: was before that you before you were with them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a decision to be made. You

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Speaker 4: Of course you don't.

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Speaker 3: So I mean if this guy, I mean if you.

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Speaker 3: I always think in these situations, if he took it

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Speaker 3: has this guy? Has he really done anything wrong? I

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Speaker 3: picture this girl sitting down and chatting with her best

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Speaker 3: friend that she hasn't seen for twenty years, and the

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Speaker 3: friend says, oh, why did your marriage fail? Well, he

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Speaker 3: was cheating on me. Oh did you know the person

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Speaker 3: he was seeing? Well, he wasn't actually seeing anybody. He

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Speaker 3: was just enjoying some escapism on the side where he

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Speaker 1: What did you just say, enjoying escapism?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was just he needed some level of release.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at this, Kate, what's the

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Speaker 3: difference between what he's done and him and his mates

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Speaker 3: going out on the weekend and possibly talking to five, ten,

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Speaker 3: twenty different girls.

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Speaker 1: I think it's very different. What I think it's actively No,

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Speaker 1: it's actively pursuing.

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Speaker 4: He's having conversations. No, no, no, no, no no, because.

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Speaker 3: With this girl, no, they were having conversations. No, when

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Speaker 3: you ruined your family, because they were having conversations.

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Speaker 1: Who ruined the family she did?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you called it off.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: When you go out and you chat to people and

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Speaker 1: sometimes it might be flirtatious, when you go home, it

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Speaker 4: So do you think that's emotionally cheating?

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Speaker 6: It's what's what do you mean are you trying to

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to establish where has he crossed the line

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Speaker 4: Not for dating.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it has a reputation for dating. I

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Speaker 3: If it was, let's say he was talking to twenty

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Speaker 6: I would still find that awkward, of course, really awkward,

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Speaker 3: But he's obviously he's obviously wanted to meet people for

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Speaker 3: some for some reason that his marriage is not fulfillip.

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Speaker 1: Are you saying that the people that he's in contact

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Speaker 1: the fulfillment or the escapism that he's getting out of

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Speaker 1: it is not sexual in nature.

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Speaker 4: It's provocative.

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Speaker 1: Is it sexual in nature?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. See sexual to me would be descriptive. Okay,

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Speaker 4: well I have no doubt that.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you come over here and rub my nice

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Speaker 4: Mark mark?

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Speaker 6: Okay, So this is and I always put you've got

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Speaker 6: to put yourself in this situation. So you get home,

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Speaker 6: you go through Lisa's phone. Lisa's got Tinder on her phone,

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Speaker 6: She's talking to twenty different guys.

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Speaker 3: There's flags, and I sit down, and I go, what's

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Speaker 3: that level of sensation elsewhere?

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Speaker 1: Okay, can I say something because now it's all coming together.

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Speaker 1: What you're saying is is that when somebody in a

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Speaker 1: find out about it, it shouldn't be their problem. It

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Speaker 6: Man at home?

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Speaker 4: What is it that your Is it the cooking? Eric

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Speaker 2: That's pretty like a wife man. The guy's hiding it,

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Speaker 2: that's already a red flag.

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Speaker 4: But he hasn't physically done anything, Eric, but.

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Speaker 2: Her either.

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Speaker 1: That's that's actually a very good point Eric. If it

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Speaker 1: was a secret, yeah, it's a secret.

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Speaker 3: But Eric, he's not going to come and say, hey, honey,

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Speaker 3: just by the way, I'm going to start chatting to

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Speaker 4: He's not going to do that.

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Speaker 2: But if he wasn't ashamed of it, then it'd be

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Speaker 3: See what if there was what's the diff Eric between

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Speaker 4: That you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Eric, you sound do you sound pretty switched on? What

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Speaker 2: Girls, Because the difference is that they're on your phone

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Speaker 2: and they're they're at like, they're accessible anytime you want.

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Speaker 2: But is that your discression as well?

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Speaker 3: Eric, do you think there's a difference between the need

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Speaker 4: Do you think there's a different between that and just

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think he's seeking validation outside of his marriage,

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Speaker 2: which shouldn't be the case.

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Speaker 4: Of trust.

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Speaker 6: So who's Eric?

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Speaker 1: It seems as though Whipper is trying to say it's

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Speaker 2: Here, promist it is projecting.

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Speaker 4: Whip is projecting. No, not at all. Eric, You're getting

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Speaker 4: a little bit well done. Eric's lines dropped out. Thanks

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Speaker 6: Projection is quite large on the wall here, Richard.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show. This is right, Richard.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, obviously I'll get to the app being in a sect.

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Speaker 7: But the comment that you made with earlier saying, you know,

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Speaker 7: if you're talking to girls like whether or not it's

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Speaker 7: the opposite sex and you're having discussions and chat. I

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Speaker 7: don't feel as a that's cheating. However, people on Facebook,

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Speaker 7: they're your friends there, your family friends and stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: That's fine as well. If you got these apps, these

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Speaker 7: putting yourself out there to meet these single people for one.

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Speaker 1: Purpose, and it's one on one. That's the point you're making, too,

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Speaker 1: when it's where men have little that's their private time.

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Speaker 7: That's very different, Richard, because I can guarantee that that

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Speaker 7: guy is definitely not using that art and talking to

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Speaker 3: It's cheating, interesting, Richard, So you'd think that cheating can

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's how you get the relationships set off

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Speaker 7: with Like it's all to deal with emotional connection, Like

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Speaker 7: bondage can then turn into.

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Speaker 3: Importing talking from chatting to that bondage.

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Speaker 6: There's another for that that I've found really talking to

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Speaker 4: It's so fine.

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Speaker 1: It's so fine.

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Speaker 4: You're just talking to them from your swing Jerry from

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Speaker 6: What do you think, Jerry?

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Speaker 8: Oh, I don't know. The last time I got on

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Speaker 8: an app and switch left or right to find a friend,

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Speaker 8: to go down to the skate park, which to find friends, same.

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Speaker 4: Thing, same thing, Jerry.

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Speaker 3: If you've got some level of interaction, you're enjoying the

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Speaker 3: even safer because there's no face to face or physical contentment.

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Speaker 4: It's safe.

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Speaker 8: Friggurer it is.

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Speaker 6: It is so ridiculous to think because Tinder is just

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Speaker 6: a swiping and that's where it's like you're looking at

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Speaker 6: someone's physical attributes to determine if you like them and

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Speaker 6: I to have a conversation. Are you is there an

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Speaker 6: actual like an app where you can find friends where

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Speaker 6: you just look at their face and go, oh, that

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Speaker 6: guy looks like he'll be a good friend.

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Speaker 4: He'd be friend, He's be friendly, he'd be great conversation,

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Speaker 8: So.

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Speaker 1: Look, and what are the stats on when you go

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Speaker 1: onto these profiles? You know how sometimes you can opt

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Speaker 1: not to put a photograph up. How many swipes or

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Speaker 1: likes or whatever do you think do those people get

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Speaker 1: as opposed to the guy sitting on a tiger.

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Speaker 6: Or imagining your bio just writing I'm only on here

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Speaker 6: to find.

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Speaker 3: And no animal was made in the taking of this herd,

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Speaker 3: in the taking of this photo.

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Speaker 4: Maria in the north rocks. Whose side are you on here?

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Speaker 8: Maria definitely on the lady's side.

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Speaker 3: So nobody agrees that this guy's done nothing wrong by

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Speaker 3: having some sort of escapism through an online app.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's all she knows about. Who knows what else

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Speaker 8: is going on? Who knows what's already been going on? Yes,

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Speaker 8: and maybe it's just a sain edge of the wedge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the tip of the icebergs of the wedge.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Maria, have you ever been cheated on?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 4: What happened?

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Speaker 8: A cereal one that used to connect with all sorts

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Speaker 8: of people, and how would he sort of thing, same

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Speaker 8: sort of thing, he'd be on Facebook looking up people.

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Speaker 8: Or he actually went to a radio stations one saying

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Speaker 8: am I hot or not? Un used the photo of

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Speaker 8: him in his suit when we got married.

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Speaker 1: Sorry and just put you out.

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Speaker 8: But the best thing you could have done.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, Maria, would you like to do traffic dating?

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Speaker 4: Have you found anybody else? Are you single at the moment?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 8: No, I found someone that he's fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well he's on traffic dating next week. Sorry, he

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Speaker 4: has a changed Maria.

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