Speaker 1: Welcome to three sixty Revelly from every angle joining them
Speaker 1: in the Great Gordon Tallas. Let's bring the Journal Australian
Speaker 1: Poor Crawley and Dean Richie Bulldog. You've got some breaking
Speaker 1: news for us to start the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The Analysis put a statement out gentlemen saying that the
Speaker 3: game this Friday night, the Dolphins versus Sous, given the
Speaker 3: possible consequences of Cyclone Alfred, which could drop between two
Speaker 3: to four hundred mills on the streets of Brisbane, for
Speaker 3: safety reasons, it has been moved. It will now be
Speaker 3: played at Combak Stutum in Parramatta, and that means around
Speaker 3: seventeen game between the same two sides merely gets flipped over.
Speaker 4: And that is up there in Brisbane.
Speaker 3: So they didn't have much choice. I don't think the
Speaker 3: forecast is horrendous. Gordy, you live there, you no doubt
Speaker 3: are on top of this, and for safety purposes, they
Speaker 3: had no choice.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, the cyclone's coming.
Speaker 6: Obviously, I was with Cyclone Alphae in Vegas, but this one,
Speaker 6: Alfred might be just might be a little bit bigger. Yeah,
Speaker 6: So I was going to head obviously between the Sunshine
Speaker 6: Coaster and NUSA, So a lot of rain and a
Speaker 6: lot of swallow there at the moment, so it's a
Speaker 6: it's a great decision.
Speaker 3: Comments Comedy says, exactly like, you can't have a game
Speaker 3: up there with potentially four hundred miles of rain and
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty kilometer wins. It was just the
Speaker 3: right thing to do. It's the first Friday night of
Speaker 3: the season. Two big clubs moved to Sydney. Get it
Speaker 3: on the Dolphins. Sorry, brother, I'm going to the Dolphins.
Speaker 3: Actually spoke with the premier up in corenys Now today,
Speaker 3: excuse me. And there was an option on the table
Speaker 3: to play the game without crowds, which is a bit
Speaker 3: of a throwback to COVID days. So the crowds were
Speaker 3: going to be told stay away, stay home, stay safy.
Speaker 4: Obviously, total that.
Speaker 7: Was the main issue. Couldn't have a game of in
Speaker 7: ane hundred milk.
Speaker 6: Like they've got families as well, So you think that
Speaker 6: when the cyclones or anything, they'd closed the airport.
Speaker 1: But this is the better option, and it shows leadership
Speaker 1: again from the NRL. Peter Velandi's you know, to do
Speaker 1: what he did in Vegas would have just I was
Speaker 1: on the same flight as in this morning.
Speaker 2: Lands has to deal with this straight away.
Speaker 1: By the end of the day, he's moved the game
Speaker 1: from Queensland to New South Wales. Has no problems at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy can do anything. At the moment,
Speaker 1: can't and it ended up being the right decision.
Speaker 3: He's just to do it, isn't he anything He sets
Speaker 3: his mind, he just gets it done. Mind you, there
Speaker 3: was a lot of layers of red tape to ghost.
Speaker 3: This is my point exactly.
Speaker 4: It's not that simple just to say we're moving it.
Speaker 4: But they've done it.
Speaker 3: SOUSE members going to be informed of this in the
Speaker 3: next hour, so they could now start.
Speaker 5: To do a round seventeen members ticket or just work around.
Speaker 2: One's up with this to start.
Speaker 7: Especially games what Dog said before. So the next game
Speaker 7: between the Dolphins, it'll be up there.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like in terms of round one, they're
Speaker 1: under a little bit of precious house. They didn't have
Speaker 1: the best trial form and now they can play, you know,
Speaker 1: in Sydney for their first game. It's not at home game,
Speaker 1: but it's close to the home home fan base can.
Speaker 2: Watch the game and they don't need to head up
Speaker 2: to Queensland.
Speaker 3: So I had to make the decision today because they
Speaker 3: planned to leave about midday tomorrow to go up there.
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's good, all right.
Speaker 1: The sports Bet team selections are in. Let's take a look.
Speaker 1: As you can see here there are a few changes.
Speaker 1: Peakes named Hooker Cobo on the wing for the Broncos.
Speaker 1: For the Tigers, the Silver replaces their suspended Corras. How
Speaker 1: At hooker, Cogger and Shaft. The new halves pairing for
Speaker 1: Newcastle Graham chosen. It sent a big inclusion for Sous
Speaker 1: despite that preseason injury for the Melbourne Storm Papenhouse and
Speaker 1: he had the ankle knee injury in the offseason, but
Speaker 1: named at fullback and Paramatta Mitchell Moses out with a
Speaker 1: foot injury. To me, that sticks out as a big one.
Speaker 1: Which one for you guys is.
Speaker 3: Mitchell Moses out for Paramatta? You know it's the new era,
Speaker 3: new kh Jason Rowles. They need to start fast. They
Speaker 3: weren't particularly impressive in the Trolls. Moses is their best player.
Speaker 4: And yeah he's a massive locks knuck up.
Speaker 3: Not many people seem to be talking about any injury
Speaker 3: in Witch Moses, so I think everyone was a little
Speaker 3: surprised when the teams came out details, Yeah, I text
Speaker 3: paramount of this afternoon break, and they weren't overly knowledgeable
Speaker 3: about when he would return. It's indefinite at the moment.
Speaker 1: They concern though, is it an injury that could last
Speaker 1: through to four weeks?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm surprised they didn't know break in terms of
Speaker 3: if it's only a week. They generally say it's a week,
Speaker 3: But when they say we don't know the return date,
Speaker 3: then you start to wonder whether it's a little more
Speaker 3: serious than what we're led to believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that they need you, that they need him
Speaker 1: to start the year. Jason Rolls has come in. They
Speaker 1: want to start like every team, right, and you want.
Speaker 5: To get the best players there in around one. You
Speaker 5: want your kickers. The majority of the game is one
Speaker 5: on this week and would be one on a kicking game.
Speaker 3: Well, it's an opportunity for Dylan round too, given the
Speaker 3: noise around him all summer, and he has to go
Speaker 3: out there and show he can be the man.
Speaker 1: And we'll get to that a little later on in
Speaker 1: the show. But let's talk about Vegas. We've covered it
Speaker 1: top to tay really, but how it was an amazing
Speaker 1: week for us scoring myself for there, but from you
Speaker 1: guys the journals sitting back here watching it from the
Speaker 1: couch back at home. How did you guys see it?
Speaker 7: I loved it. I loved it. It was bright.
Speaker 3: The English game was wonderful. Wigan were fantastic. The crowd
Speaker 3: really got into it. You could feel it back here.
Speaker 3: It was sensational coverage. So many people you know went
Speaker 3: over to enjoy the week and the football was fantastic.
Speaker 3: The two NRL games in particular, we're outstanding. The Raiders
Speaker 3: really put on a show and Penrith just showed once
Speaker 3: again why there's such a champion team. It was spectacular,
Speaker 3: wasn't it? And I think it also bought it out
Speaker 3: the AFL. It has not yet gotten aim mentioned in
Speaker 3: Sydney for the past two weeks, so if that's part
Speaker 3: of the plan, it certainly worked. I think Peter Landi's
Speaker 3: nailed it. Though four games was too many. Are you
Speaker 3: guys in the starting willback here watch it in television?
Speaker 4: It went for ten hours. It was too long. One
Speaker 4: game will be cold.
Speaker 3: It will be the Jill Rouse and obviously that Jill
Speaker 3: Ruse game. It did interrupt the momentum of the day.
Speaker 3: Given the score, I'll probably be the Jilla ruse. It
Speaker 3: will be the jilos. That's the understanding. I don't think
Speaker 3: it's definitive yet.
Speaker 2: Break the land, that's what That's what you're hearing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's from hearing correct.
Speaker 5: Well, the English crowd they bring tenth.
Speaker 1: Just to talk from our point of view who were
Speaker 1: at the game, obviously, the Super e crowd was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: The atmosphere they brought, the wigans, the Wigan and Warrington fans,
Speaker 1: it was like it was amazing it.
Speaker 7: And given it was such a one sided contest, yeah, they.
Speaker 6: Loved it and and they sing against But then the
Speaker 6: day did get a bit longer. But and then when
Speaker 6: the people were leaving, I didn't realize once you left
Speaker 6: the stadium, so if you went out to have a
Speaker 6: smoke or whatever, you can't get back in. So I think,
Speaker 6: you know, people weren't leaving because of the foot I
Speaker 6: think because the last game was obviously the show piece
Speaker 6: between Penuthine, I did feel.
Speaker 1: For them, but because they were the most passionate fans,
Speaker 1: but they had to sit there through another three games
Speaker 1: after their one, you know, and you could tell it
Speaker 1: was wearing them down as it went on. But the
Speaker 1: four games were too much. Like you know, I said
Speaker 1: it straight after the game that Peter Velandi's actually acknowledged
Speaker 1: and said it straight after the game. It was a
Speaker 1: huge success and there's no taking away from that. But
Speaker 1: you know, four games back to back, you know, is
Speaker 1: a very very long day.
Speaker 6: The only negative twenty dollars us a beer and they
Speaker 6: ran out of beer.
Speaker 5: No, do you know what I heard?
Speaker 6: That is the most beer sold of that stadium?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that is the most four games?
Speaker 5: Hold on Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: No, that is that? Is that a good indication.
Speaker 6: Of the NRL English right, one hour of the English
Speaker 6: was was actually more than the whole NFL when the
Speaker 6: Raiders play. But they did have a Super Bowl there, right,
Speaker 6: so to be the Super bowls pretty Is it.
Speaker 4: The greatest innovation in rugby leagues since State of Origin?
Speaker 4: I think, I think if it has to amount a very
Speaker 4: very strong.
Speaker 6: Aim to say that it is, we're taking a lot
Speaker 6: of boxes right because Magic Ground.
Speaker 2: I wasn't too sure.
Speaker 6: It is amazing in Britaman it is a week that
Speaker 6: everybody puts in their calendar and that's a great celebration
Speaker 6: of our game. But this is one of the greatest celebrations.
Speaker 6: Like I sit there and a we're in different places
Speaker 6: than we look there And then players come and sat
Speaker 6: on our desk on three sixty and they're in all right.
Speaker 1: I think every player wants to go there, And for
Speaker 1: any viewer watching this show.
Speaker 2: You've got to do it at some point.
Speaker 1: It is no way for your so once in a
Speaker 1: lifetime experience, whether it's your team or not, get over there.
Speaker 3: It doesn't it's a magical week now. Word of mouth
Speaker 3: so important breath. People came back last year raving about it,
Speaker 3: including myself and people this year is now five thousand
Speaker 3: more they will probably direct another five to ten thousand
Speaker 3: there and.
Speaker 5: Fifteen thousand Americans they bought tickets.
Speaker 1: And we've really sucked the life out of every other
Speaker 1: code in this country for the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: haven't we. Like when you actually sit back and look
Speaker 1: at it, we have just stolen all the headlines, all
Speaker 1: the paper, all the radios.
Speaker 2: It's it's everywhere. So it's I mean, it's smart tactically, Braith.
Speaker 3: It's not just a matter of Vegas being glamorous. That
Speaker 3: is a smart tactical move. For one sport took obliterate
Speaker 3: all other sports leading into the first week of the
Speaker 3: winter in Vegas, though, makes it such a selling point too,
Speaker 3: Like you know, because it is Vegas, it is on
Speaker 3: the bucket list of a lot of people to go
Speaker 3: over there and experience that.
Speaker 7: And also the fact you get to see.
Speaker 6: Some really magic ground and Brisbane going to Vegas. I
Speaker 6: don't see it working in Nashville like like that way,
Speaker 6: he talks about some other cities in America.
Speaker 5: Okon, this is the best place.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: Now Vodaphone Dynamic duo in Las Vegas, Slia Martin and Isaiao.
Speaker 1: Holy smokes, now these two were I mean, everyone waxes
Speaker 1: lyrical around Nathan Clear and so we should, but these
Speaker 1: two honestly were sensational.
Speaker 3: Liam Martin's backing up from Man of the Match in
Speaker 3: the Clive Churchill Medal in the Grand Final, he goes
Speaker 3: out there no preseason games. He terrorizes him from the
Speaker 3: opening whistle. He was on a mission in that game,
Speaker 3: and he's and then he and then he pulls off
Speaker 3: a trisaving tackle near the end of the game to
Speaker 3: secure the victory. But I also thought Isaiah Yoh is
Speaker 3: just one of the unsung champions of our game. I
Speaker 3: was watching him there the other day and that influenced
Speaker 3: both he and Nathan, Like, I don't think there's any
Speaker 3: question anymore that one day down the track, Nathan will
Speaker 3: be a rugby league of mortal. But I just think
Speaker 3: that there's an argument, definitely from me that Isaiah Yale
Speaker 3: has to be in that conversation. I don't remember watching
Speaker 3: a player who has been as influential a Ford, as
Speaker 3: influential on the continued success of his team as this bloke.
Speaker 3: He's a big man, he rolls his sleeve up, he
Speaker 3: does the hard work. He's got great skills. He's ball
Speaker 3: playing is fantastic. It adds another dimension to this team.
Speaker 5: He's just as important as Nathan, and he's calm. He
Speaker 5: started as a center.
Speaker 6: Right, then he plays lock right, then he plays front right,
Speaker 6: and then when he plays State of Origin, he's a
Speaker 6: hit up forward and he stands and tackles, and he
Speaker 6: plays Nathan's out and he plays as first receiver and
Speaker 6: he plays just as good as a playmaker.
Speaker 2: Then he plays Locke.
Speaker 6: And just said there was a subtlety like he comes back,
Speaker 6: comes off the line sideways.
Speaker 5: That's an Andrew Johns. That's that's a halfbacks try.
Speaker 2: So it's like his vision.
Speaker 5: I think he's a great Didn't.
Speaker 2: He say that he's chameleon We've ever had.
Speaker 5: A million is anywhere.
Speaker 6: He can play anywhere in the game, and he'll model
Speaker 6: the best players.
Speaker 3: And the other point to it, too, is that we
Speaker 3: look at all the players that Penrith have lost over
Speaker 3: the years, you know, really significant individuals, and it's these
Speaker 3: two that hold that club together. And look you're throwing
Speaker 3: Liam Martin too and Dylan Edwards and but these two leaders.
Speaker 3: It says a little to me. It's a little bit
Speaker 3: like Melbourne Storm. You know, just because Cameron Smith is
Speaker 3: seen as that, you know, he is an immortal in waiting,
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean Billy Slater can't be. And I think
Speaker 3: it's the same argument for these two that.
Speaker 2: You mentioned it.
Speaker 1: But Doie, this is you've worked this up today, so
Speaker 1: this is to issue this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just was fascinated breath by this misconception out
Speaker 3: there that people say this is a.
Speaker 4: Great Penmouth team. It's more than a team.
Speaker 3: This is now, this dynasty is now spanning two generations.
Speaker 3: You can see here from Round one twenty twenty when
Speaker 3: they started their run all beat they got beaten in
Speaker 3: the Grand Final to round one in Vegas.
Speaker 4: There's only four players still there. To be fair, Dylan
Speaker 4: Edwards and.
Speaker 3: To toy I wasn't there in Vegas, and Dylan Edwards
Speaker 3: wasn't there in round one in twenty twenty. Excuse me
Speaker 3: through injury, but it just proves to me and proved
Speaker 3: everybody that this is now spanning two three generations.
Speaker 4: It's not just one side.
Speaker 3: People should remember that and it makes their achieved it's
Speaker 3: even more meritorious.
Speaker 1: Which shows, like you said, how important Liam Martin isa.
Speaker 1: We know clear he is. That's that's a given right.
Speaker 1: But to have two back rowers who have had the
Speaker 1: impact on a team, and you talk about generational that
Speaker 1: have won four Premierships in a row, have lost, Crichton, Burton,
Speaker 1: you name it. The list goes on Taruva kick out.
Speaker 1: You can keep naming Boris, but to have too Cleary's Cleary.
Speaker 1: But to have two back rowers that can change games,
Speaker 1: that have that are just well, Martin's a beast.
Speaker 2: Those like a half that's playing thirteen.
Speaker 1: But can also score from ten or fifteen meters out
Speaker 1: like you're one of the best back rowers that's ever
Speaker 1: played the game.
Speaker 2: Gordy, what do you think, Liam Martin?
Speaker 6: These two absolutely like the Pendu blokes would teasing me
Speaker 6: the night after the game said he would have bashed me,
Speaker 6: and I would have loved the challenge. But he's a
Speaker 6: guy like when you're watching your play, state of Origin, whatever,
Speaker 6: no matter what happens, he goes to the collision, he
Speaker 6: goes to the contest, he's not scared, so he's he
Speaker 6: would have been a nightmare to play against. There's no doubt.
Speaker 6: And then right now with Olwatu and all these big,
Speaker 6: great athletes and kickout, he's well, he's probably the best backroller.
Speaker 5: In the game.
Speaker 3: And it's the consistency too, with the consistency of their
Speaker 3: success that sustained success. Because, like you say, Gordy was
Speaker 3: a great player in his day, Sam Burgess was another
Speaker 3: great player. You could keep going on, Glenn Lazarus.
Speaker 7: There's so many great players.
Speaker 3: But I think what stands out for me with Isaiah
Speaker 3: is the leadership and the way that this team has
Speaker 3: continued its success with so many players leading.
Speaker 6: Take out, his passing, bring.
Speaker 3: Another team, developing another team from within is what what
Speaker 3: Penrith do and these guys, they just lead the way.
Speaker 3: And he's a Bradley Clyde complete. He's a modern day
Speaker 3: non provnit Is probably and There's fortunate, but he just
Speaker 3: he's unsung ways. It just reminds you of he's such
Speaker 3: a gentleman on and off the field, and he's just
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Well, Nathan Cleary may not be the player he is
Speaker 2: without Isaiah. You know, we won't know that because they
Speaker 2: only ever played together.
Speaker 1: But honestly, like what he does for Nathan, he's just
Speaker 1: gives you so much time and space, which leads me
Speaker 1: to this next one. It is the comparison in halves
Speaker 1: the Panthers taking on the Sharks on the weekend, which
Speaker 1: was a great game, but the comparison in the halves
Speaker 1: for both teams in critical moments.
Speaker 2: How did you see cruels?
Speaker 7: I thought there was.
Speaker 3: There was a couple of sets in particular that just
Speaker 3: summed up Nathan's calmness and influence on that team and
Speaker 3: the way that look it was leading up to that
Speaker 3: Dame Lorry try where it put them ahead, you know
Speaker 3: at the end of the game to twenty eight twenty
Speaker 3: two did it finish up? And you just have to
Speaker 3: watch how smart they so Jack Cole was initially feeding
Speaker 3: the scrum. At the last second he's dropped the ball,
Speaker 3: Lorrie's run in from the left wing, Cole's run across.
Speaker 7: They've stacked this right edge.
Speaker 3: Liam Martin will have to go back over it because
Speaker 3: Cleary's turned martin In to run at stone Street, who
Speaker 3: was the winger rover on the opposite side. You'll see
Speaker 3: stone Street over there and he'll sprint across when he
Speaker 3: drops the ball. Then Cleary will turn martin In run
Speaker 3: straight at stone Street. Then the very next play they
Speaker 3: go straight back at that edge and they score where
Speaker 3: he would have been defending. And it starts at training.
Speaker 3: Every single player knows their job. They have the calmness
Speaker 3: on the field to pick the moment when they're going.
Speaker 2: To do it.
Speaker 5: A coach there and waiting and it just works.
Speaker 7: Was actually my son that pointed it out to me.
Speaker 3: But anyway, you watch Cronulla later in the game and
Speaker 3: they had a set where you know, they were attacking
Speaker 3: Penris line.
Speaker 7: And there was just nothing doing like it was just.
Speaker 3: So methodical and why and how are they so methodical
Speaker 3: ahead of the best, But you can't tell me all
Speaker 3: that other clubs don't practice not perfect day. This is
Speaker 3: what we're talking about, Doggie, because I had this set
Speaker 3: where they had six tackles on the line.
Speaker 7: That was the only shot passes there.
Speaker 5: They score, the Santa passes to the winner and they score.
Speaker 5: There's certain things that's.
Speaker 1: A culture thing. They're so good Crawls. You're right, right,
Speaker 1: this is the difference, right, There is a difference when
Speaker 1: the game is on the line and you need to
Speaker 1: come up with a big play. This is like this, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is what separates and great team. But this is
Speaker 1: why Kraala Sharks will continue to make the finals and
Speaker 1: top four every year. But can they take that next
Speaker 1: step to win a premiership. This is their challenge because
Speaker 1: they've got Trindle and Heinz there. Trindle was the dominant
Speaker 1: half on the weekend and was I thought he had
Speaker 1: a great game. Heins was a little bit quiet, started
Speaker 1: the game well. But with Penrith, you just know if
Speaker 1: they're in the game and they hang in there, it's
Speaker 1: either going to be Cleary. They don't have Lu anymore,
Speaker 1: but it's going to be Yo, or it's going to
Speaker 1: be Cleary or just one of their players. Normally Cleary
Speaker 1: who comes up with that big play when they need
Speaker 1: it the most. And that's like most teams. You've got
Speaker 1: Munster and Jerome. He's a saying on three sixty last
Speaker 1: night in Vegas. You've got these teams that have got
Speaker 1: these key players that we knew premierships. The Sharks. Their
Speaker 1: problem is is trendle end or Hines the right combinational
Speaker 1: players that can get them to that next level.
Speaker 7: It's round one. They've got a season to get it right.
Speaker 3: I think what we saw over there was that Coronella
Speaker 3: now have a roster with Panua Blake in that team
Speaker 3: where they're capable. They have, but it's going to come
Speaker 3: down to the halfbacks doing the job. And there was
Speaker 3: another concern that I just a couple of the defensive
Speaker 3: efforts from the fullback Will Kennedy on the week, and
Speaker 3: I thought were quite concerning. I don't know what you
Speaker 3: blokes would think if we get a chance to have
Speaker 3: a look at those, but there was two stride scored.
Speaker 3: Kennedy hardly makes an effort in this one, and then
Speaker 3: on the next one that we'll see clear he does
Speaker 3: trick him. He moves to one side, then he goes back.
Speaker 3: But even so I thought that the effort from Kennedy
Speaker 3: would So you watch this. If that's Clint Gufferson made,
Speaker 3: he's going one hundred miles an hour to get to that.
Speaker 6: But that's the difference, right, So those last two plays,
Speaker 6: right when Talakai hits it and Raymond you have a
Speaker 6: look like the black jerseys that are in the picture.
Speaker 5: When they put a play on.
Speaker 6: Nathan Cleary has got so many options and he can
Speaker 6: hit three right when when other side is put on
Speaker 6: a play, it's selfish, so they go there's one, there's
Speaker 6: one other.
Speaker 2: I'm getting to.
Speaker 3: On this though, Like we talk about the Hars, you
Speaker 3: know that they've got Daniel Atkinson waiting in the wings
Speaker 3: and Trindle is clearly leading this side at the moment.
Speaker 3: You just wonder if if Niko being the running player,
Speaker 3: he plays his best football when he runs the ball,
Speaker 3: would there be an option down the track of it
Speaker 3: doesn't work to move him back.
Speaker 2: It could be And by no means is this a
Speaker 2: knock on?
Speaker 1: Because Kerala are playing four premierships in a row and
Speaker 1: they lost by six points, right, and they're going to
Speaker 1: they're going to make the finals with ease ay and
Speaker 1: to canter into the finals and they probably will my
Speaker 1: top four.
Speaker 2: If not, they're going to be on the edge.
Speaker 1: But all we're saying is if they want to be
Speaker 1: a premiership winning team, then do they have the capabilities
Speaker 1: to do that? I think they do. But can they
Speaker 1: get there? Can Hines get there? Can Trindle get there?
Speaker 1: It's up to them too. They've got Adam Fernour Blake
Speaker 1: there now, they've got really good outside backs, a really
Speaker 1: solid back three and forward pack. Now it's really going
Speaker 1: to come down to those big moments. Now, let's lighten
Speaker 1: things up a little bit. You've written a story tomorrow
Speaker 1: on Nathan Cleary.
Speaker 2: What's all this about?
Speaker 4: I wrote it in my column called Bulldogs.
Speaker 3: But I've just said in the column Braith that sooner
Speaker 3: rather than later Nathan might have to take the plunge
Speaker 3: and move. He's in love with Mary Fowler. I don't
Speaker 3: want to make this all soppy, but clearly they love
Speaker 3: a good job. They talking about marriage and they talk
Speaker 3: about me. Me.
Speaker 4: Nathan, there's your message from.
Speaker 1: Me, Please follow your heart. Best wishes Dennis the bull
Speaker 1: from Richie.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've got a lot of experience.
Speaker 2: Necessarily, he's going to listen to you.
Speaker 4: I've got a lot of experience.
Speaker 2: Now I've got I've got I've got to Vegas.
Speaker 5: Right, so Nathan goes to playing the English.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, goody, that Mary can't come here because the
Speaker 3: opportunities in a global sport aren't available here.
Speaker 6: Okay, So then Nathan and his twenty eight next birthday
Speaker 6: could go and play for a week.
Speaker 2: So silly.
Speaker 5: But what happens if Mary goes and plays soccer in America?
Speaker 4: Obviously things will change. That's a big if in there.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, is there a chance that Nathan, who's
Speaker 3: achieved everything in the game right now for premierships.
Speaker 2: Is just seven, He's just turned twenties.
Speaker 3: He's coming into his best years year thirty six.
Speaker 8: I know, But how long do you want to keep
Speaker 8: you having a lot of relationship for You're saying that
Speaker 8: he should leave him now because the friend overseas, the
Speaker 8: time may come if keep playing.
Speaker 1: It wasn't Mary Fowler. It was just it was just
Speaker 1: not Mary Fowler. So people do people do exactly, But
Speaker 1: you'd have the same opinion if it wasn't Mary Fowl.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if if Nathan's achieved everything, how long
Speaker 3: does he want to keep playing in the same competition,
Speaker 3: in the same team. Does he want to go and
Speaker 3: start a family and if he wants to, there is
Speaker 3: an opportunity to go and play.
Speaker 2: Idea.
Speaker 5: Would you move to the north North of England with.
Speaker 2: A love of my life? Absolutely?
Speaker 5: You know I'm an old romantic.
Speaker 2: I would go.
Speaker 4: In a flash, Gordon, we need some music game Flash Gordon.
Speaker 3: Google, You'll be you know what when he announced it
Speaker 3: in a couple of years, he's going to play.
Speaker 2: He started a couple of years.
Speaker 4: Now you said, I said sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then we'll see.
Speaker 7: He's not going anywhere.
Speaker 2: He's not going anywhere. What do we.
Speaker 4: Three cold beers?
Speaker 2: Three? What about Ricky's ambush?
Speaker 1: The Raiders were the most impressive team to come out
Speaker 1: of Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: The way that they played was scintillating. It really was.
Speaker 2: I think it shocked us all. We didn't expect that.
Speaker 1: They were fast, they were clinical, and they had off flows.
Speaker 1: They were a different team, you know, the young The
Speaker 1: evolution over the preseason of players that have clearly taken
Speaker 1: their games to a new level over the off season
Speaker 1: was evident.
Speaker 2: It was great to watch. I loved it. What did
Speaker 2: you guys think I.
Speaker 4: Thought it was sparkling. It really ignited the stadium, didn't it.
Speaker 3: Because the previous game over there, Wigan were up by
Speaker 3: thirty eight points, So someone a team needed to really
Speaker 3: spark the crowd, and it was the Raiders. As you said,
Speaker 3: Bak clinical. Their passing was put at their speed. Ricky's
Speaker 3: really put together a brilliant young team down there, a
Speaker 3: bit of experience and I think perhaps in the next
Speaker 3: year or two they could be knocking on the door.
Speaker 6: I'm thought it was going to be a battle of
Speaker 6: the big boys in the middle right because of Papa
Speaker 6: and Tarpnay versus Fisher Harris. It was the smaller and
Speaker 6: grateful and that's what I noticed, like the speed, the
Speaker 6: way the Raiders played and just been able to find
Speaker 6: their gaps.
Speaker 5: And Savage was unbelievable.
Speaker 6: I think he got he got engaged at the Lagi
Speaker 6: Fountain and scored a couple of great tries.
Speaker 3: Savage had a great season last year. Joey Topitten got
Speaker 3: their part of the year, but he wasn't far behind.
Speaker 3: And I remember speaking to Ricky at the start of
Speaker 3: last season. He said, I remember saying, this is you know,
Speaker 3: the fastest backs we've had here at the start of
Speaker 3: last season with all these young guys coming through and
Speaker 3: they just had speed.
Speaker 7: Ye maybe since.
Speaker 3: He has he's built this team and that's what I
Speaker 3: really admire about what they did.
Speaker 7: And then they went over there.
Speaker 3: And the style of footy they played, and you guys
Speaker 3: brought it up in commentary.
Speaker 7: There were so many offloads.
Speaker 3: But even when a few of them went bad at
Speaker 3: this time of the year, teams you said it last night, Gordon,
Speaker 3: you put the ball under your arm and you tuck
Speaker 3: it in and you try not to make mistakes. They
Speaker 3: went the other way, and even when there was a
Speaker 3: few mistakes, the young guys continued to back themselves and
Speaker 3: it just really took the energy out of the warring.
Speaker 2: It was great. Tom Starling was great and Savage Savage.
Speaker 1: Savage has always had the ability to speed, the pedigree.
Speaker 2: He's like a race horse.
Speaker 1: The last couple he's been to be green, right, so
Speaker 1: he you know, he's come up with errors at times,
Speaker 1: like they put the blinkers on, and this year he's
Speaker 1: just he's just ran straight, hard and fast and killed them,
Speaker 1: not only with his finishes, but even coming out of
Speaker 1: his own en he looks like he's put a bit
Speaker 1: of size on. He was making meaters at ease and
Speaker 1: getting those quick play the balls and Starling, who's quick
Speaker 1: and elusive at the best of times, off the back
Speaker 1: of those offloads, huts and young and looks strong and powerful.
Speaker 1: You know, it's only round one, but great signs for
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Now, Ricky, you know, he looked like he
Speaker 1: had a bit of an.
Speaker 2: Astra grind after the game. He does, he always does, but.
Speaker 1: We always know he likes. He likes to have his
Speaker 1: back against the wall. That's the mentality he thrives off it.
Speaker 1: He did it again right like that was his Well.
Speaker 3: It would drive him mad because he loves Canberra so
Speaker 3: much and he knows that the young talent that's he's
Speaker 3: working and building here. And when he sees someone, and
Speaker 3: it might just be one person, put him as a
Speaker 3: wooden spurner, suddenly it's everyone in the media.
Speaker 5: So does Ricky hold grudges.
Speaker 3: I'm sure fantastic how he uses them?
Speaker 2: He needs that. Everybody needs.
Speaker 7: Years.
Speaker 2: That's what he is.
Speaker 5: It's always been us with him.
Speaker 2: Wayne.
Speaker 6: Wayne is exactly the same. Wayne actually has won't give
Speaker 6: us a chance, but not as much as Ricky. Ricky
Speaker 6: talks about it more in the media, where Wayne is
Speaker 6: more in the dressing room.
Speaker 3: People don't give the Raiders a chance, though, and I
Speaker 3: think that's what's impressibly. They find it very hard to recruit,
Speaker 3: like top shelf players just don't get them. They have
Speaker 3: to build from the ground up like Penrith have done.
Speaker 3: And he can see the fruits of that labor coming
Speaker 3: through at the moment.
Speaker 7: And I'll tell you the other.
Speaker 3: Thing that I was really struck with this Raiders performance
Speaker 3: was the defense, the stealing their defense, the energy, the
Speaker 3: just the aggression. And in past years it's always been
Speaker 3: a bit of a problem for the Raiders. They finished
Speaker 3: off last season so well with some big wins, but
Speaker 3: that was the other thing.
Speaker 7: They just held that line the other day.
Speaker 1: I love their half Strange. He was really good last
Speaker 1: year and in this game. He went a bit under
Speaker 1: the radar in this game because everyone else was so good.
Speaker 1: But for a young half, Jesus well beyond his years
Speaker 1: and he's a player in the future.
Speaker 2: Well he's a great player now, but he's only going
Speaker 2: to get better now.
Speaker 1: The tarpening incident, the suspension, we spoke about that on
Speaker 1: last night show with buzz Ricky wasn't too happy with it.
Speaker 1: It is a bit contentious. Was it too severe the
Speaker 1: suspension that he did get.
Speaker 4: I think a syndhym was enough.
Speaker 3: Look, if we're going to start suspending star players, can't
Speaker 3: do that, okay, the word star out. If we're going
Speaker 3: to start suspending players for that kind of tackle or action,
Speaker 3: we're gonna have a lot of players on.
Speaker 4: The sideline all year.
Speaker 3: And I don't want the game to be robbed of
Speaker 3: big name players or any players through instance like that.
Speaker 4: Gordy, that was enough.
Speaker 5: That's a soft one break.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.
Speaker 4: I look at that series.
Speaker 2: It's a shoulder charge right, there was no but that's
Speaker 2: that's what it is.
Speaker 1: So are we saying that we would have all been
Speaker 1: happy with the sinbin and that's it?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The problem for the NRL Low Dog is that they've
Speaker 3: they've put this rule in place. This shoulder charge has
Speaker 3: been outlawed for some time, and it came about for
Speaker 3: very good reasons because it was a dangerous tackle. But
Speaker 3: in this instance, I don't think that was a terrible
Speaker 3: shoulder charge.
Speaker 5: Shoulder charge, no clash in the head.
Speaker 3: And suffice and when you when you lose a player
Speaker 3: for two weeks for that tackle, and I'll go on
Speaker 3: to the next one where Savage cops a week for
Speaker 3: content act on the on the kick.
Speaker 4: Again, Look, it's a penalty, that's what it is.
Speaker 7: These suspensions are over the top.
Speaker 3: We had it with Jared will We were hard graves
Speaker 3: last year where he paid the price for his bad
Speaker 3: record and there was a tackle where he got was
Speaker 3: it four weeks.
Speaker 7: And it just didn't deserve it.
Speaker 3: There's contact with a leg cruils. Again, my argument, if
Speaker 3: we're going to rub players out for that, we're going
Speaker 3: to have a list as long as a suburbs.
Speaker 5: You can't hit both you're a kicker. This is a
Speaker 5: tough one.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't make contact with the leg.
Speaker 1: I understand on report, but I find it hard even
Speaker 1: you know, obviously players get severe injuries when you know
Speaker 1: the defenses attacked the league, right, but that this is this.
Speaker 3: Is really there's got to be some discretion break sure
Speaker 3: where they used to zoom in and die.
Speaker 1: Of course he was he wasn't really intending like a
Speaker 1: missile on taking his legs out or anything. The pressure
Speaker 1: it was key pressure. So it's a bit of a
Speaker 1: gray area. And that one's hard to judge. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think we'll probably be arguing about this for the
Speaker 1: rest of the year.
Speaker 2: But steak around shame. It is a shame to steik around.
Speaker 1: Plenty more to come after the shower with Stephen Crichton
Speaker 1: in that special edition of Face to.
Speaker 3: Face Captain of the Year last year, how did you
Speaker 3: take to it like a duck to water.
Speaker 9: I'll be honest with you, I kind of lost myself
Speaker 9: at the start. It was a mad lesson for myself
Speaker 9: to lead myself before I can leave the team.
Speaker 4: Blake just put it on CD.
Speaker 9: This lesson is probably the lesson I give to a
Speaker 9: lot of the younger boys right now, and like, you're
Speaker 9: not as good as you think you are. And up
Speaker 9: until then I was really relying on my talent. After that,
Speaker 9: every rep at training I went one hundred percent in
Speaker 9: everything that I did Stephen.
Speaker 5: Set up.
Speaker 9: I'm always pinched myself at the position that I'm in
Speaker 9: right now, but trying not to dwell on it too
Speaker 9: much as well. I'm still young and the sky is
Speaker 9: the limit to