1 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to three sixty Revelly from every angle joining them 2 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: in the Great Gordon Tallas. Let's bring the Journal Australian 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Poor Crawley and Dean Richie Bulldog. You've got some breaking 4 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: news for us to start the show. 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: The Analysis put a statement out gentlemen saying that the 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: game this Friday night, the Dolphins versus Sous, given the 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: possible consequences of Cyclone Alfred, which could drop between two 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 3: to four hundred mills on the streets of Brisbane, for 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: safety reasons, it has been moved. It will now be 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 3: played at Combak Stutum in Parramatta, and that means around 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: seventeen game between the same two sides merely gets flipped over. 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 4: And that is up there in Brisbane. 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: So they didn't have much choice. I don't think the 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: forecast is horrendous. Gordy, you live there, you no doubt 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: are on top of this, and for safety purposes, they 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: had no choice. 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 5: Well, the cyclone's coming. 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 6: Obviously, I was with Cyclone Alphae in Vegas, but this one, 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 6: Alfred might be just might be a little bit bigger. Yeah, 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 6: So I was going to head obviously between the Sunshine 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 6: Coaster and NUSA, So a lot of rain and a 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 6: lot of swallow there at the moment, so it's a 25 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 6: it's a great decision. 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 3: Comments Comedy says, exactly like, you can't have a game 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 3: up there with potentially four hundred miles of rain and 28 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty kilometer wins. It was just the 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: right thing to do. It's the first Friday night of 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: the season. Two big clubs moved to Sydney. Get it 31 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: on the Dolphins. Sorry, brother, I'm going to the Dolphins. 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: Actually spoke with the premier up in corenys Now today, 33 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: excuse me. And there was an option on the table 34 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: to play the game without crowds, which is a bit 35 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: of a throwback to COVID days. So the crowds were 36 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: going to be told stay away, stay home, stay safy. 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: Obviously, total that. 38 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 7: Was the main issue. Couldn't have a game of in 39 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:53,919 Speaker 7: ane hundred milk. 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 6: Like they've got families as well, So you think that 41 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 6: when the cyclones or anything, they'd closed the airport. 42 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: But this is the better option, and it shows leadership 43 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: again from the NRL. Peter Velandi's you know, to do 44 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: what he did in Vegas would have just I was 45 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: on the same flight as in this morning. 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: Lands has to deal with this straight away. 47 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: By the end of the day, he's moved the game 48 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: from Queensland to New South Wales. Has no problems at all. 49 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy can do anything. At the moment, 50 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: can't and it ended up being the right decision. 51 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: He's just to do it, isn't he anything He sets 52 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 3: his mind, he just gets it done. Mind you, there 53 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: was a lot of layers of red tape to ghost. 54 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: This is my point exactly. 55 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: It's not that simple just to say we're moving it. 56 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 4: But they've done it. 57 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: SOUSE members going to be informed of this in the 58 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 3: next hour, so they could now start. 59 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 5: To do a round seventeen members ticket or just work around. 60 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: One's up with this to start. 61 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 7: Especially games what Dog said before. So the next game 62 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 7: between the Dolphins, it'll be up there. 63 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: But I mean, like in terms of round one, they're 64 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: under a little bit of precious house. They didn't have 65 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: the best trial form and now they can play, you know, 66 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: in Sydney for their first game. It's not at home game, 67 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: but it's close to the home home fan base can. 68 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: Watch the game and they don't need to head up 69 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: to Queensland. 70 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: So I had to make the decision today because they 71 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: planned to leave about midday tomorrow to go up there. 72 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 7: So yeah, it's good, all right. 73 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: The sports Bet team selections are in. Let's take a look. 74 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: As you can see here there are a few changes. 75 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: Peakes named Hooker Cobo on the wing for the Broncos. 76 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: For the Tigers, the Silver replaces their suspended Corras. How 77 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: At hooker, Cogger and Shaft. The new halves pairing for 78 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: Newcastle Graham chosen. It sent a big inclusion for Sous 79 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: despite that preseason injury for the Melbourne Storm Papenhouse and 80 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: he had the ankle knee injury in the offseason, but 81 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: named at fullback and Paramatta Mitchell Moses out with a 82 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: foot injury. To me, that sticks out as a big one. 83 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: Which one for you guys is. 84 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: Mitchell Moses out for Paramatta? You know it's the new era, 85 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: new kh Jason Rowles. They need to start fast. They 86 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: weren't particularly impressive in the Trolls. Moses is their best player. 87 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: And yeah he's a massive locks knuck up. 88 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: Not many people seem to be talking about any injury 89 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: in Witch Moses, so I think everyone was a little 90 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: surprised when the teams came out details, Yeah, I text 91 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: paramount of this afternoon break, and they weren't overly knowledgeable 92 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: about when he would return. It's indefinite at the moment. 93 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: They concern though, is it an injury that could last 94 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: through to four weeks? 95 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: Well, I'm surprised they didn't know break in terms of 96 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: if it's only a week. They generally say it's a week, 97 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: But when they say we don't know the return date, 98 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: then you start to wonder whether it's a little more 99 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 3: serious than what we're led to believe. 100 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that they need you, that they need him 101 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: to start the year. Jason Rolls has come in. They 102 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: want to start like every team, right, and you want. 103 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 5: To get the best players there in around one. You 104 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 5: want your kickers. The majority of the game is one 105 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 5: on this week and would be one on a kicking game. 106 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 3: Well, it's an opportunity for Dylan round too, given the 107 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 3: noise around him all summer, and he has to go 108 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: out there and show he can be the man. 109 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: And we'll get to that a little later on in 110 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: the show. But let's talk about Vegas. We've covered it 111 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: top to tay really, but how it was an amazing 112 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: week for us scoring myself for there, but from you 113 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: guys the journals sitting back here watching it from the 114 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: couch back at home. How did you guys see it? 115 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 7: I loved it. I loved it. It was bright. 116 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: The English game was wonderful. Wigan were fantastic. The crowd 117 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 3: really got into it. You could feel it back here. 118 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: It was sensational coverage. So many people you know went 119 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: over to enjoy the week and the football was fantastic. 120 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: The two NRL games in particular, we're outstanding. The Raiders 121 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: really put on a show and Penrith just showed once 122 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 3: again why there's such a champion team. It was spectacular, 123 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: wasn't it? And I think it also bought it out 124 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: the AFL. It has not yet gotten aim mentioned in 125 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: Sydney for the past two weeks, so if that's part 126 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 3: of the plan, it certainly worked. I think Peter Landi's 127 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: nailed it. Though four games was too many. Are you 128 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 3: guys in the starting willback here watch it in television? 129 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: It went for ten hours. It was too long. One 130 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 4: game will be cold. 131 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: It will be the Jill Rouse and obviously that Jill 132 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: Ruse game. It did interrupt the momentum of the day. 133 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 3: Given the score, I'll probably be the Jilla ruse. It 134 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 3: will be the jilos. That's the understanding. I don't think 135 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: it's definitive yet. 136 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: Break the land, that's what That's what you're hearing. 137 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's from hearing correct. 138 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 5: Well, the English crowd they bring tenth. 139 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: Just to talk from our point of view who were 140 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: at the game, obviously, the Super e crowd was unbelievable. 141 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: The atmosphere they brought, the wigans, the Wigan and Warrington fans, 142 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: it was like it was amazing it. 143 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 7: And given it was such a one sided contest, yeah, they. 144 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 6: Loved it and and they sing against But then the 145 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 6: day did get a bit longer. But and then when 146 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 6: the people were leaving, I didn't realize once you left 147 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 6: the stadium, so if you went out to have a 148 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 6: smoke or whatever, you can't get back in. So I think, 149 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 6: you know, people weren't leaving because of the foot I 150 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 6: think because the last game was obviously the show piece 151 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 6: between Penuthine, I did feel. 152 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: For them, but because they were the most passionate fans, 153 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: but they had to sit there through another three games 154 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: after their one, you know, and you could tell it 155 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: was wearing them down as it went on. But the 156 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: four games were too much. Like you know, I said 157 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: it straight after the game that Peter Velandi's actually acknowledged 158 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: and said it straight after the game. It was a 159 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: huge success and there's no taking away from that. But 160 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, four games back to back, you know, is 161 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: a very very long day. 162 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 6: The only negative twenty dollars us a beer and they 163 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 6: ran out of beer. 164 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 5: No, do you know what I heard? 165 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 6: That is the most beer sold of that stadium? 166 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, that is the most four games? 167 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 5: Hold on Super Bowl? 168 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: No, that is that? Is that a good indication. 169 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 6: Of the NRL English right, one hour of the English 170 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 6: was was actually more than the whole NFL when the 171 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 6: Raiders play. But they did have a Super Bowl there, right, 172 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 6: so to be the Super bowls pretty Is it. 173 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 4: The greatest innovation in rugby leagues since State of Origin? 174 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: I think, I think if it has to amount a very 175 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 4: very strong. 176 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 6: Aim to say that it is, we're taking a lot 177 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 6: of boxes right because Magic Ground. 178 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: I wasn't too sure. 179 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 6: It is amazing in Britaman it is a week that 180 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 6: everybody puts in their calendar and that's a great celebration 181 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 6: of our game. But this is one of the greatest celebrations. 182 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 6: Like I sit there and a we're in different places 183 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 6: than we look there And then players come and sat 184 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 6: on our desk on three sixty and they're in all right. 185 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: I think every player wants to go there, And for 186 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: any viewer watching this show. 187 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: You've got to do it at some point. 188 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: It is no way for your so once in a 189 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: lifetime experience, whether it's your team or not, get over there. 190 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: It doesn't it's a magical week now. Word of mouth 191 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: so important breath. People came back last year raving about it, 192 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: including myself and people this year is now five thousand 193 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: more they will probably direct another five to ten thousand 194 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: there and. 195 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 5: Fifteen thousand Americans they bought tickets. 196 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: And we've really sucked the life out of every other 197 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: code in this country for the last couple of weeks, 198 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: haven't we. Like when you actually sit back and look 199 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: at it, we have just stolen all the headlines, all 200 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: the paper, all the radios. 201 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: It's it's everywhere. So it's I mean, it's smart tactically, Braith. 202 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: It's not just a matter of Vegas being glamorous. That 203 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: is a smart tactical move. For one sport took obliterate 204 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: all other sports leading into the first week of the 205 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: winter in Vegas, though, makes it such a selling point too, 206 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: Like you know, because it is Vegas, it is on 207 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: the bucket list of a lot of people to go 208 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: over there and experience that. 209 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 7: And also the fact you get to see. 210 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 6: Some really magic ground and Brisbane going to Vegas. I 211 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 6: don't see it working in Nashville like like that way, 212 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 6: he talks about some other cities in America. 213 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 5: Okon, this is the best place. 214 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: I agree. 215 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: Now Vodaphone Dynamic duo in Las Vegas, Slia Martin and Isaiao. 216 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: Holy smokes, now these two were I mean, everyone waxes 217 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: lyrical around Nathan Clear and so we should, but these 218 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: two honestly were sensational. 219 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: Liam Martin's backing up from Man of the Match in 220 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: the Clive Churchill Medal in the Grand Final, he goes 221 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: out there no preseason games. He terrorizes him from the 222 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: opening whistle. He was on a mission in that game, 223 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 3: and he's and then he and then he pulls off 224 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: a trisaving tackle near the end of the game to 225 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: secure the victory. But I also thought Isaiah Yoh is 226 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: just one of the unsung champions of our game. I 227 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 3: was watching him there the other day and that influenced 228 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: both he and Nathan, Like, I don't think there's any 229 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 3: question anymore that one day down the track, Nathan will 230 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: be a rugby league of mortal. But I just think 231 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: that there's an argument, definitely from me that Isaiah Yale 232 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: has to be in that conversation. I don't remember watching 233 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: a player who has been as influential a Ford, as 234 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 3: influential on the continued success of his team as this bloke. 235 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: He's a big man, he rolls his sleeve up, he 236 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 3: does the hard work. He's got great skills. He's ball 237 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 3: playing is fantastic. It adds another dimension to this team. 238 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 5: He's just as important as Nathan, and he's calm. He 239 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 5: started as a center. 240 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 6: Right, then he plays lock right, then he plays front right, 241 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 6: and then when he plays State of Origin, he's a 242 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 6: hit up forward and he stands and tackles, and he 243 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 6: plays Nathan's out and he plays as first receiver and 244 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 6: he plays just as good as a playmaker. 245 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 2: Then he plays Locke. 246 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 6: And just said there was a subtlety like he comes back, 247 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 6: comes off the line sideways. 248 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 5: That's an Andrew Johns. That's that's a halfbacks try. 249 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: So it's like his vision. 250 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 5: I think he's a great Didn't. 251 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: He say that he's chameleon We've ever had. 252 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 5: A million is anywhere. 253 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 6: He can play anywhere in the game, and he'll model 254 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 6: the best players. 255 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: And the other point to it, too, is that we 256 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: look at all the players that Penrith have lost over 257 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: the years, you know, really significant individuals, and it's these 258 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: two that hold that club together. And look you're throwing 259 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: Liam Martin too and Dylan Edwards and but these two leaders. 260 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: It says a little to me. It's a little bit 261 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: like Melbourne Storm. You know, just because Cameron Smith is 262 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: seen as that, you know, he is an immortal in waiting, 263 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: it doesn't mean Billy Slater can't be. And I think 264 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: it's the same argument for these two that. 265 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: You mentioned it. 266 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: But Doie, this is you've worked this up today, so 267 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: this is to issue this. 268 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just was fascinated breath by this misconception out 269 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: there that people say this is a. 270 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 4: Great Penmouth team. It's more than a team. 271 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 3: This is now, this dynasty is now spanning two generations. 272 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 3: You can see here from Round one twenty twenty when 273 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 3: they started their run all beat they got beaten in 274 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: the Grand Final to round one in Vegas. 275 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 4: There's only four players still there. To be fair, Dylan 276 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 4: Edwards and. 277 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: To toy I wasn't there in Vegas, and Dylan Edwards 278 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: wasn't there in round one in twenty twenty. Excuse me 279 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: through injury, but it just proves to me and proved 280 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: everybody that this is now spanning two three generations. 281 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 4: It's not just one side. 282 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 3: People should remember that and it makes their achieved it's 283 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 3: even more meritorious. 284 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: Which shows, like you said, how important Liam Martin isa. 285 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: We know clear he is. That's that's a given right. 286 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: But to have two back rowers who have had the 287 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: impact on a team, and you talk about generational that 288 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: have won four Premierships in a row, have lost, Crichton, Burton, 289 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: you name it. The list goes on Taruva kick out. 290 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: You can keep naming Boris, but to have too Cleary's Cleary. 291 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: But to have two back rowers that can change games, 292 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: that have that are just well, Martin's a beast. 293 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: Those like a half that's playing thirteen. 294 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: But can also score from ten or fifteen meters out 295 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: like you're one of the best back rowers that's ever 296 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: played the game. 297 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: Gordy, what do you think, Liam Martin? 298 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 6: These two absolutely like the Pendu blokes would teasing me 299 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 6: the night after the game said he would have bashed me, 300 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 6: and I would have loved the challenge. But he's a 301 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 6: guy like when you're watching your play, state of Origin, whatever, 302 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 6: no matter what happens, he goes to the collision, he 303 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 6: goes to the contest, he's not scared, so he's he 304 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 6: would have been a nightmare to play against. There's no doubt. 305 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 6: And then right now with Olwatu and all these big, 306 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 6: great athletes and kickout, he's well, he's probably the best backroller. 307 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 5: In the game. 308 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: And it's the consistency too, with the consistency of their 309 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: success that sustained success. Because, like you say, Gordy was 310 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: a great player in his day, Sam Burgess was another 311 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: great player. You could keep going on, Glenn Lazarus. 312 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 7: There's so many great players. 313 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: But I think what stands out for me with Isaiah 314 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 3: is the leadership and the way that this team has 315 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: continued its success with so many players leading. 316 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 6: Take out, his passing, bring. 317 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: Another team, developing another team from within is what what 318 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: Penrith do and these guys, they just lead the way. 319 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: And he's a Bradley Clyde complete. He's a modern day 320 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: non provnit Is probably and There's fortunate, but he just 321 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: he's unsung ways. It just reminds you of he's such 322 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: a gentleman on and off the field, and he's just 323 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: you know. 324 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: Well, Nathan Cleary may not be the player he is 325 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: without Isaiah. You know, we won't know that because they 326 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: only ever played together. 327 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: But honestly, like what he does for Nathan, he's just 328 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: gives you so much time and space, which leads me 329 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: to this next one. It is the comparison in halves 330 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: the Panthers taking on the Sharks on the weekend, which 331 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: was a great game, but the comparison in the halves 332 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: for both teams in critical moments. 333 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: How did you see cruels? 334 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 7: I thought there was. 335 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: There was a couple of sets in particular that just 336 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: summed up Nathan's calmness and influence on that team and 337 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: the way that look it was leading up to that 338 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 3: Dame Lorry try where it put them ahead, you know 339 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: at the end of the game to twenty eight twenty 340 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: two did it finish up? And you just have to 341 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: watch how smart they so Jack Cole was initially feeding 342 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: the scrum. At the last second he's dropped the ball, 343 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: Lorrie's run in from the left wing, Cole's run across. 344 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 7: They've stacked this right edge. 345 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: Liam Martin will have to go back over it because 346 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: Cleary's turned martin In to run at stone Street, who 347 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: was the winger rover on the opposite side. You'll see 348 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: stone Street over there and he'll sprint across when he 349 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: drops the ball. Then Cleary will turn martin In run 350 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: straight at stone Street. Then the very next play they 351 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: go straight back at that edge and they score where 352 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: he would have been defending. And it starts at training. 353 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: Every single player knows their job. They have the calmness 354 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 3: on the field to pick the moment when they're going. 355 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: To do it. 356 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 5: A coach there and waiting and it just works. 357 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 7: Was actually my son that pointed it out to me. 358 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: But anyway, you watch Cronulla later in the game and 359 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: they had a set where you know, they were attacking 360 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: Penris line. 361 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 7: And there was just nothing doing like it was just. 362 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: So methodical and why and how are they so methodical 363 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: ahead of the best, But you can't tell me all 364 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: that other clubs don't practice not perfect day. This is 365 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: what we're talking about, Doggie, because I had this set 366 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: where they had six tackles on the line. 367 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 7: That was the only shot passes there. 368 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 5: They score, the Santa passes to the winner and they score. 369 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 5: There's certain things that's. 370 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: A culture thing. They're so good Crawls. You're right, right, 371 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: this is the difference, right, There is a difference when 372 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: the game is on the line and you need to 373 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: come up with a big play. This is like this, right, Yeah, 374 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: this is what separates and great team. But this is 375 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: why Kraala Sharks will continue to make the finals and 376 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: top four every year. But can they take that next 377 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: step to win a premiership. This is their challenge because 378 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: they've got Trindle and Heinz there. Trindle was the dominant 379 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: half on the weekend and was I thought he had 380 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: a great game. Heins was a little bit quiet, started 381 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: the game well. But with Penrith, you just know if 382 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: they're in the game and they hang in there, it's 383 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: either going to be Cleary. They don't have Lu anymore, 384 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: but it's going to be Yo, or it's going to 385 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: be Cleary or just one of their players. Normally Cleary 386 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: who comes up with that big play when they need 387 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: it the most. And that's like most teams. You've got 388 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: Munster and Jerome. He's a saying on three sixty last 389 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: night in Vegas. You've got these teams that have got 390 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: these key players that we knew premierships. The Sharks. Their 391 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: problem is is trendle end or Hines the right combinational 392 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: players that can get them to that next level. 393 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 7: It's round one. They've got a season to get it right. 394 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: I think what we saw over there was that Coronella 395 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: now have a roster with Panua Blake in that team 396 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: where they're capable. They have, but it's going to come 397 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: down to the halfbacks doing the job. And there was 398 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: another concern that I just a couple of the defensive 399 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: efforts from the fullback Will Kennedy on the week, and 400 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: I thought were quite concerning. I don't know what you 401 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: blokes would think if we get a chance to have 402 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: a look at those, but there was two stride scored. 403 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: Kennedy hardly makes an effort in this one, and then 404 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: on the next one that we'll see clear he does 405 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 3: trick him. He moves to one side, then he goes back. 406 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: But even so I thought that the effort from Kennedy 407 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: would So you watch this. If that's Clint Gufferson made, 408 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: he's going one hundred miles an hour to get to that. 409 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 6: But that's the difference, right, So those last two plays, 410 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 6: right when Talakai hits it and Raymond you have a 411 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 6: look like the black jerseys that are in the picture. 412 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 5: When they put a play on. 413 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 6: Nathan Cleary has got so many options and he can 414 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 6: hit three right when when other side is put on 415 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 6: a play, it's selfish, so they go there's one, there's 416 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 6: one other. 417 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: I'm getting to. 418 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: On this though, Like we talk about the Hars, you 419 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 3: know that they've got Daniel Atkinson waiting in the wings 420 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: and Trindle is clearly leading this side at the moment. 421 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: You just wonder if if Niko being the running player, 422 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: he plays his best football when he runs the ball, 423 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: would there be an option down the track of it 424 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: doesn't work to move him back. 425 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: It could be And by no means is this a 426 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: knock on? 427 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: Because Kerala are playing four premierships in a row and 428 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: they lost by six points, right, and they're going to 429 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: they're going to make the finals with ease ay and 430 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: to canter into the finals and they probably will my 431 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: top four. 432 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: If not, they're going to be on the edge. 433 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: But all we're saying is if they want to be 434 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: a premiership winning team, then do they have the capabilities 435 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: to do that? I think they do. But can they 436 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: get there? Can Hines get there? Can Trindle get there? 437 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: It's up to them too. They've got Adam Fernour Blake 438 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: there now, they've got really good outside backs, a really 439 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 1: solid back three and forward pack. Now it's really going 440 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: to come down to those big moments. Now, let's lighten 441 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: things up a little bit. You've written a story tomorrow 442 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: on Nathan Cleary. 443 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 2: What's all this about? 444 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 4: I wrote it in my column called Bulldogs. 445 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: But I've just said in the column Braith that sooner 446 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 3: rather than later Nathan might have to take the plunge 447 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: and move. He's in love with Mary Fowler. I don't 448 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: want to make this all soppy, but clearly they love 449 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 3: a good job. They talking about marriage and they talk 450 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 3: about me. Me. 451 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 4: Nathan, there's your message from. 452 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: Me, Please follow your heart. Best wishes Dennis the bull 453 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: from Richie. 454 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, I've got a lot of experience. 455 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: Necessarily, he's going to listen to you. 456 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 4: I've got a lot of experience. 457 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: Now I've got I've got I've got to Vegas. 458 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 5: Right, so Nathan goes to playing the English. 459 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: I'm saying, goody, that Mary can't come here because the 460 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 3: opportunities in a global sport aren't available here. 461 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 6: Okay, So then Nathan and his twenty eight next birthday 462 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 6: could go and play for a week. 463 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: So silly. 464 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 5: But what happens if Mary goes and plays soccer in America? 465 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 4: Obviously things will change. That's a big if in there. 466 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 3: But I'm saying, is there a chance that Nathan, who's 467 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 3: achieved everything in the game right now for premierships. 468 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: Is just seven, He's just turned twenties. 469 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: He's coming into his best years year thirty six. 470 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 8: I know, But how long do you want to keep 471 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 8: you having a lot of relationship for You're saying that 472 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 8: he should leave him now because the friend overseas, the 473 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 8: time may come if keep playing. 474 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't Mary Fowler. It was just it was just 475 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: not Mary Fowler. So people do people do exactly, But 476 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: you'd have the same opinion if it wasn't Mary Fowl. 477 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if if Nathan's achieved everything, how long 478 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 3: does he want to keep playing in the same competition, 479 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 3: in the same team. Does he want to go and 480 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 3: start a family and if he wants to, there is 481 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 3: an opportunity to go and play. 482 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: Idea. 483 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 5: Would you move to the north North of England with. 484 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: A love of my life? Absolutely? 485 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 5: You know I'm an old romantic. 486 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: I would go. 487 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 4: In a flash, Gordon, we need some music game Flash Gordon. 488 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: Google, You'll be you know what when he announced it 489 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: in a couple of years, he's going to play. 490 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 2: He started a couple of years. 491 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 4: Now you said, I said sooner rather than later. 492 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, then we'll see. 493 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 7: He's not going anywhere. 494 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: He's not going anywhere. What do we. 495 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 4: Three cold beers? 496 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 2: Three? What about Ricky's ambush? 497 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: The Raiders were the most impressive team to come out 498 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: of Las Vegas. 499 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 2: The way that they played was scintillating. It really was. 500 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: I think it shocked us all. We didn't expect that. 501 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: They were fast, they were clinical, and they had off flows. 502 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: They were a different team, you know, the young The 503 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: evolution over the preseason of players that have clearly taken 504 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: their games to a new level over the off season 505 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: was evident. 506 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: It was great to watch. I loved it. What did 507 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: you guys think I. 508 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 4: Thought it was sparkling. It really ignited the stadium, didn't it. 509 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: Because the previous game over there, Wigan were up by 510 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: thirty eight points, So someone a team needed to really 511 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: spark the crowd, and it was the Raiders. As you said, 512 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 3: Bak clinical. Their passing was put at their speed. Ricky's 513 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 3: really put together a brilliant young team down there, a 514 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: bit of experience and I think perhaps in the next 515 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: year or two they could be knocking on the door. 516 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 6: I'm thought it was going to be a battle of 517 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 6: the big boys in the middle right because of Papa 518 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 6: and Tarpnay versus Fisher Harris. It was the smaller and 519 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 6: grateful and that's what I noticed, like the speed, the 520 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 6: way the Raiders played and just been able to find 521 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 6: their gaps. 522 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 5: And Savage was unbelievable. 523 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 6: I think he got he got engaged at the Lagi 524 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 6: Fountain and scored a couple of great tries. 525 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 3: Savage had a great season last year. Joey Topitten got 526 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 3: their part of the year, but he wasn't far behind. 527 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 3: And I remember speaking to Ricky at the start of 528 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: last season. He said, I remember saying, this is you know, 529 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: the fastest backs we've had here at the start of 530 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: last season with all these young guys coming through and 531 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 3: they just had speed. 532 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 7: Ye maybe since. 533 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: He has he's built this team and that's what I 534 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: really admire about what they did. 535 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 7: And then they went over there. 536 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 3: And the style of footy they played, and you guys 537 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 3: brought it up in commentary. 538 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 7: There were so many offloads. 539 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: But even when a few of them went bad at 540 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 3: this time of the year, teams you said it last night, Gordon, 541 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 3: you put the ball under your arm and you tuck 542 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 3: it in and you try not to make mistakes. They 543 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: went the other way, and even when there was a 544 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: few mistakes, the young guys continued to back themselves and 545 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 3: it just really took the energy out of the warring. 546 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: It was great. Tom Starling was great and Savage Savage. 547 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: Savage has always had the ability to speed, the pedigree. 548 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: He's like a race horse. 549 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: The last couple he's been to be green, right, so 550 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: he you know, he's come up with errors at times, 551 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: like they put the blinkers on, and this year he's 552 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: just he's just ran straight, hard and fast and killed them, 553 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: not only with his finishes, but even coming out of 554 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: his own en he looks like he's put a bit 555 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: of size on. He was making meaters at ease and 556 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: getting those quick play the balls and Starling, who's quick 557 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: and elusive at the best of times, off the back 558 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: of those offloads, huts and young and looks strong and powerful. 559 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's only round one, but great signs for 560 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Now, Ricky, you know, he looked like he 561 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: had a bit of an. 562 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: Astra grind after the game. He does, he always does, but. 563 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: We always know he likes. He likes to have his 564 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: back against the wall. That's the mentality he thrives off it. 565 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: He did it again right like that was his Well. 566 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: It would drive him mad because he loves Canberra so 567 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 3: much and he knows that the young talent that's he's 568 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: working and building here. And when he sees someone, and 569 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: it might just be one person, put him as a 570 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 3: wooden spurner, suddenly it's everyone in the media. 571 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 5: So does Ricky hold grudges. 572 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: I'm sure fantastic how he uses them? 573 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: He needs that. Everybody needs. 574 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 7: Years. 575 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 2: That's what he is. 576 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 5: It's always been us with him. 577 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 2: Wayne. 578 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 6: Wayne is exactly the same. Wayne actually has won't give 579 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 6: us a chance, but not as much as Ricky. Ricky 580 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 6: talks about it more in the media, where Wayne is 581 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 6: more in the dressing room. 582 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 3: People don't give the Raiders a chance, though, and I 583 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: think that's what's impressibly. They find it very hard to recruit, 584 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: like top shelf players just don't get them. They have 585 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: to build from the ground up like Penrith have done. 586 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 3: And he can see the fruits of that labor coming 587 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 3: through at the moment. 588 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 7: And I'll tell you the other. 589 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: Thing that I was really struck with this Raiders performance 590 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: was the defense, the stealing their defense, the energy, the 591 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 3: just the aggression. And in past years it's always been 592 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 3: a bit of a problem for the Raiders. They finished 593 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: off last season so well with some big wins, but 594 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: that was the other thing. 595 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 7: They just held that line the other day. 596 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: I love their half Strange. He was really good last 597 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: year and in this game. He went a bit under 598 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: the radar in this game because everyone else was so good. 599 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: But for a young half, Jesus well beyond his years 600 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: and he's a player in the future. 601 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: Well he's a great player now, but he's only going 602 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: to get better now. 603 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: The tarpening incident, the suspension, we spoke about that on 604 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: last night show with buzz Ricky wasn't too happy with it. 605 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: It is a bit contentious. Was it too severe the 606 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: suspension that he did get. 607 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 4: I think a syndhym was enough. 608 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 3: Look, if we're going to start suspending star players, can't 609 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 3: do that, okay, the word star out. If we're going 610 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: to start suspending players for that kind of tackle or action, 611 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 3: we're gonna have a lot of players on. 612 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 4: The sideline all year. 613 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 3: And I don't want the game to be robbed of 614 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 3: big name players or any players through instance like that. 615 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 4: Gordy, that was enough. 616 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 5: That's a soft one break. 617 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah it is. 618 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 4: I look at that series. 619 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 2: It's a shoulder charge right, there was no but that's 620 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: that's what it is. 621 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 1: So are we saying that we would have all been 622 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: happy with the sinbin and that's it? 623 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 624 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 625 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: The problem for the NRL Low Dog is that they've 626 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: they've put this rule in place. This shoulder charge has 627 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: been outlawed for some time, and it came about for 628 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: very good reasons because it was a dangerous tackle. But 629 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: in this instance, I don't think that was a terrible 630 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 3: shoulder charge. 631 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 5: Shoulder charge, no clash in the head. 632 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: And suffice and when you when you lose a player 633 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: for two weeks for that tackle, and I'll go on 634 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: to the next one where Savage cops a week for 635 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: content act on the on the kick. 636 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 4: Again, Look, it's a penalty, that's what it is. 637 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 7: These suspensions are over the top. 638 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: We had it with Jared will We were hard graves 639 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: last year where he paid the price for his bad 640 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: record and there was a tackle where he got was 641 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: it four weeks. 642 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 7: And it just didn't deserve it. 643 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: There's contact with a leg cruils. Again, my argument, if 644 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 3: we're going to rub players out for that, we're going 645 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: to have a list as long as a suburbs. 646 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 5: You can't hit both you're a kicker. This is a 647 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 5: tough one. 648 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't make contact with the leg. 649 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: I understand on report, but I find it hard even 650 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 1: you know, obviously players get severe injuries when you know 651 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: the defenses attacked the league, right, but that this is this. 652 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: Is really there's got to be some discretion break sure 653 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 3: where they used to zoom in and die. 654 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: Of course he was he wasn't really intending like a 655 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: missile on taking his legs out or anything. The pressure 656 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: it was key pressure. So it's a bit of a 657 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: gray area. And that one's hard to judge. And you know, 658 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: I think we'll probably be arguing about this for the 659 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: rest of the year. 660 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: But steak around shame. It is a shame to steik around. 661 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: Plenty more to come after the shower with Stephen Crichton 662 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: in that special edition of Face to. 663 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: Face Captain of the Year last year, how did you 664 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 3: take to it like a duck to water. 665 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 9: I'll be honest with you, I kind of lost myself 666 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 9: at the start. It was a mad lesson for myself 667 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 9: to lead myself before I can leave the team. 668 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 4: Blake just put it on CD. 669 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 9: This lesson is probably the lesson I give to a 670 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 9: lot of the younger boys right now, and like, you're 671 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 9: not as good as you think you are. And up 672 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 9: until then I was really relying on my talent. After that, 673 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 9: every rep at training I went one hundred percent in 674 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 9: everything that I did Stephen. 675 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 5: Set up. 676 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 9: I'm always pinched myself at the position that I'm in 677 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 9: right now, but trying not to dwell on it too 678 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 9: much as well. I'm still young and the sky is 679 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 9: the limit to