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Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday, June nine, twenty twenty five. Former Prime Minister

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Speaker 1: Scott Morrison leads a list of Australians tapped for King's

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Speaker 1: Birthday honors, which also includes filmmaking duo Baz Luhrman and

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Speaker 1: Katherine Martin, and author jmcurtsey. You can check out the

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Speaker 1: full list at the Australian dot com AU. Today inside

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Speaker 1: the country's most intriguing media story, a walloping NRL versus

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Speaker 1: AFL feud that's centered on a new battleground. Perth. Western

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Speaker 1: Australia is resolute AFL territory. So why on Earth is

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Speaker 1: rugby league bringing a superstar coach and a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of taxpayers money to the West. That's today's story, Football,

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Speaker 1: money and media. It's a combination guarantee to produce drama.

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Speaker 1: Ted Lasso, Let's pretend this is Ted Lasso Season four.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so hey, why don't we just jump right in?

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Speaker 2: Anybody got any questions?

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Speaker 1: Perth twenty twenty five, the launch of a new rugby

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Speaker 1: league team deep in AFL territory. We've got an angry

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Speaker 1: billionaire hostile hometown press pack, an all powerful sporting titan,

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Speaker 1: a trouble making Tyrow CEO and a legendary coach on

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Speaker 1: massive money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a fucking joke.

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Speaker 1: The Perth Bears have launched with triumph and fanfare if

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Speaker 1: you're the NRL and crickets. If you're the population of

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Speaker 1: Perth who are busily enjoying the usual sun kissed winter

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Speaker 1: ritual of Ossie rules, glory.

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Speaker 3: You good thing. Heys kicked.

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Speaker 1: Don't get around the way from.

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Speaker 3: Everywhere Hudson walk on. I think he's what This game

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Speaker 3: of footing.

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Speaker 1: For the same crimes expand is a thing sporting codes

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Speaker 1: like to try, and Rugby League has tried this before

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Speaker 1: with the Adelaide Rams. They lasted two seasons and multiple

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Speaker 1: iterations of a Perth team, but the people of the

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Speaker 1: West have remained stubbornly indifferent.

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Speaker 3: The more teams you have, that's how you get the

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Speaker 3: biggest broadcast deal. More teams equals more games equals more

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Speaker 3: time slots equals more money.

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Speaker 1: Steve Jackson writes The Australian's Media Diary.

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Speaker 3: So Peter Velandi's very savvy media player. He knows this

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Speaker 3: is how he gets the best deal Perth P and

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Speaker 3: G and then the next plan will probably be a

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Speaker 3: second New Zealand team. Now they're not targeting where they

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Speaker 3: think the best fan bases are or where they might

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Speaker 3: actually develop the game. What it's about is timeslots. So

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Speaker 3: they want a team in Perth, that's another time zone.

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Speaker 3: They want a second team in New Zealand because then

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Speaker 3: they can have a dedicated New Zealand game every week

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Speaker 3: that's another time zone. So it's a really strategic play

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Speaker 3: to ensure that they can get the most money for

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Speaker 3: their sports rights.

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Speaker 1: NRL boss Peter Valandi's, who also runs Racing New South Wales,

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Speaker 1: is one of the most influential figures in sport politics

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Speaker 1: and media thanks to his control of the vast budgets,

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Speaker 1: partnership rights revenues and advertising spends of both those sports.

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Speaker 1: One media organization he hasn't been able to charm is

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Speaker 1: seven West, which also owns the West Australian newspaper. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the media coverage has been a bit biased

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Speaker 1: in the sense that the main newspaper here is owned

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Speaker 1: by seven West.

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Speaker 2: Media that has the AFL rights. Where's we be quite

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Speaker 2: frank so that they don't want us to be here

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Speaker 2: because they realize we're going to be competitive and we're

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Speaker 2: going to take some of their lunch and we eat

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 1: The NRL has a two billion dollar broadcast deal that

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Speaker 1: runs through to the end of twenty twenty seven with

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Speaker 1: nine Entertainment and Foxtel, which shows games on its ko Play.

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Speaker 1: If everything goes to plan, the Perth Bears will start

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Speaker 1: playing in either twenty twenty seven or twenty twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: just in time for Valandies to try and get that

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Speaker 1: two billion dollar deal up to three billion for the

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Speaker 1: next five years. The AFL's broadcast deal is with seven

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Speaker 1: West Media and its owner Kerry Stokes, a mining billionaire

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Speaker 1: who absolutely loves Aussie rules. Usually when seven covers league,

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Speaker 1: it tends to be brief and grudging. Indeed, Seven has

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Speaker 1: devoted very slim coverage to the launch of the Bears,

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Speaker 1: including Friday's public debut of their new coach, a genuine

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Speaker 1: superstar of rugby league, Malmoninger.

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Speaker 2: I feel very honored, very nervous. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: huge responsibility, but I believe I'm up for it.

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Speaker 1: The Perth Bears new CEO, Anthony de Segli, is a

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Speaker 1: former newspaper editor and seven News director.

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Speaker 2: We've gone from one bear and me to two bears

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Speaker 2: in melt Bear.

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Speaker 1: Here's where it gets interesting. Desegli is a protege of

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Speaker 1: seven West Media owner Kerry Stokes. Peter Vilandi's might have

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Speaker 1: thought hiring a Stokes loyalist to run the game in

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Speaker 1: WA would help with media relationships. So far, that hasn't

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Speaker 1: worked out. The local paper, The West Australian, which is

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Speaker 1: also owned by Kerry Stokes, has taken to calling the

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Speaker 1: team the bad News Bears.

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Speaker 3: Basically, that's seven West Media doing the exact opposite of

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Speaker 3: rolling out the welcome Matt. They're saying, this is our turf,

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Speaker 3: we don't want you here, We're not going to support you.

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Speaker 1: Look.

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Speaker 3: The West Australian is edited by Christopher dre who's made

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Speaker 3: it very clear he doesn't think that Perth people are

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Speaker 3: interested in rugby league and he doesn't think they should

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Speaker 3: be paying for it through their taxes.

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Speaker 1: Here's Deceegli again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think The West Australian is doing

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Speaker 2: what all tabloid newspapers should do right, which is create

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Speaker 2: provocative front pages that get people talking. At the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, it'll be up to the PERF bears

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Speaker 2: to earn the respect of the daily newspaper and earn

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Speaker 2: the respect of the sports pages, so that the PERF

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Speaker 2: bears you deserve to be alongside the coverage of the

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Speaker 2: AFL teams. And if we're a success on the field,

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Speaker 2: and if we're a success off the field, then we

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Speaker 2: should be in those sports pages. And if we're not,

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Speaker 2: the only people missing out will be the readers of

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Speaker 2: the newspaper.

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Speaker 1: It's a sensational media feud.

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Speaker 3: It's probably one of the biggest media storms we've seen

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Speaker 3: it in a long time. We've got De Segli, who

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Speaker 3: was quite popular when he was running the West Australian,

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Speaker 3: came into the TV division and look, some people have

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Speaker 3: described his job there as a suicide mission. He came in,

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Speaker 3: he made a lot of cuts, he lost a lot

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Speaker 3: of friends very quickly, and now he's gone somewhere where

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Speaker 3: he's basically the enemy of the network and all those

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Speaker 3: rivals he's created along the way, this is their chance

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Speaker 3: how to get square. Of course, a lot of his

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Speaker 3: decisions at seven were extremely unpopular. He introduced to Friday

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Speaker 3: that even by then bringing in a psychic to appear

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Speaker 3: be ridiculed by the people that he put off side,

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Speaker 3: but also basically told we're not going to support you. Now,

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Speaker 3: how much of that is because seven owns the AFL

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Speaker 3: and how much of that is people looking to get

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Speaker 3: square with Dicegee on a personal basis. We're going to

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Speaker 3: see that unfold over the coming months.

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Speaker 1: You're reporting in the Media Diary today that your sources

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Speaker 1: at seven are telling you that before Decegely went to

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Speaker 1: the Bears, he was very enthusiastic about rugby league coverage.

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Speaker 1: What was that all about?

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Speaker 3: They have said in at seven that he got increasingly

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Speaker 3: passionate about rugby league in his last few months there.

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Speaker 3: Of course, the other school of thought is that Decegely

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Speaker 3: the ratings.

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Speaker 1: We've both worked with Anthony de Sigli over the years.

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Speaker 1: The media is actually quite a small industry. In Australia.

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Speaker 1: He's a very smart guy, he's very ambitious and he

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Speaker 1: obviously understands the media very well.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it.

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Speaker 1: Matters for the success of the Perth Bears whether or

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Speaker 1: not they get positive or any coverage from the West

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Speaker 3: The thing about television news in my experience is they

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Speaker 3: go with what rates. So while some media outlets might

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Speaker 3: have a hit list of people who aren't to be

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Speaker 3: to television ratings are it and so if the NRL

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Speaker 3: they'll cover it. If it's not going to rate, you

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Speaker 3: they don't think it's going to be rating, so they're

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Speaker 3: not going to show it. Will it make any difference?

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Speaker 3: I think it will because more fans follow usport when

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Speaker 3: there's on television, but also they get more time on

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Speaker 3: The question is will it win a fan base? Well,

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Speaker 3: all we know for sure is that they're not going

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Speaker 1: Coming up. Is anyone going to pay three billion dollars

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Speaker 1: who A bit of Landy's big experiment was taking NRL

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Speaker 1: the games. The current NRL rights deal is going to

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Speaker 1: expire at the end of twenty twenty seven, and Velandi's

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Speaker 1: has said he wants to get three billion dollars. How

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Speaker 3: Look, he's probably going to have to divide and conquer.

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Speaker 3: No one's going to own all the rights to all

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Speaker 3: origin games they'll definitely go to another bidder. What he

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Speaker 3: wants to target is Amazon, Netflix stand Sport, which is

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Speaker 3: building up it's sporting showcase. We know that Sports sells

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Speaker 3: he needs to attract if he's going to maximize the

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Speaker 3: Because it's no longer just the domestic television network works

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