WEBVTT - MAFS - Jodie Calls Out Harrison's Gaslighting.

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<v Speaker 1>Maths.

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<v Speaker 2>What a journey Joe's. We've met so many unbelievable, unique

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<v Speaker 2>individual characters. We've met Jesse, we've met Melissa as well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time now to meet I reckon. The most interesting

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<v Speaker 2>character on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Experiment, the most interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I think one of the experts has called him

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<v Speaker 4>the most controversial of all.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, certainly the most talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly what do you think about that? Harrison?

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<v Speaker 5>Well that's a very flattering intro. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 5>The most interesting? I look, I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I binged watched about eight episodes yesterday, Harrison.

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<v Speaker 3>So I feel like I know you pretty well by now.

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<v Speaker 5>You know about one percent? Yeah, I say, if you

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<v Speaker 5>watch the.

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<v Speaker 4>Show, yeah, are you playing a bit of a character

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<v Speaker 4>or are they just.

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<v Speaker 3>Portraying you as a bit of a villain? What's going

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<v Speaker 3>on here?

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<v Speaker 5>Look? I heard Johnny say the other day there's no

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<v Speaker 5>such things bad edit, and I have to agree. I

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<v Speaker 5>think I think there is some things to do with

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<v Speaker 5>the editing where you can catch out. Okay, they used

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<v Speaker 5>a reply that I did one comment over here instead

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<v Speaker 5>of to there, and look, there is there is a

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<v Speaker 5>TV show to be made. But what I will say

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<v Speaker 5>is You've got to remember math is basically the one

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<v Speaker 5>percent of what the audience is one percent of the

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred percent of everything we shoot over three months,

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<v Speaker 5>and the one percent that you see is the worst

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<v Speaker 5>one percent. The stuff that's going to make great television.

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<v Speaker 5>The rest of the stuff is pretty boring. It's like

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<v Speaker 5>us making a coffee or just having a chat about

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<v Speaker 5>our day. The stuff that the audience sees is like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, it's the explosive stuff, it's the controversial stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, so just keep that in mind, and and

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<v Speaker 5>remember that, you know, I'm not I'm not an arrogant

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<v Speaker 5>asshole all of the time, just most of the time,

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<v Speaker 5>but not all of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know Harrison that it was going to go

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<v Speaker 2>down this path early?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? Did you did you get a bit of.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, about two hours into the wedding, I think about it.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, all right, I'm going to be that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, whether it's the creative editing or not.

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<v Speaker 4>I did watch yesterday and I thought, gosh, he's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of gas lighting her a bit and not really taking

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<v Speaker 4>much responsibility.

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<v Speaker 3>But you reckon, that's just the way it's put together.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, like, just to push back on that, a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit right if I'm saying, if I'm saying, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>was dating around, but I'm here now, how much more

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<v Speaker 5>responsibility could I take?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so well, last time at the.

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<v Speaker 5>Dinner party, I've gone, yeah, okay, that's who I was,

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm here now. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't understand where the gas lighting or where the lack

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<v Speaker 5>of accountability is. Like, I've put my hand up for it.

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<v Speaker 5>I've admitted to it. It's not like I've lied about it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, people, the feedback I've gotten is that people

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<v Speaker 5>just don't like my type of honesty. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 5>we've had people on previous seasons which have lied and

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<v Speaker 5>swirmed their way out of things, haven't owned anything, and

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<v Speaker 5>then it comes out in the long run. It's like

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<v Speaker 5>people said, oh, we want someone honest, we want a

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<v Speaker 5>real person. They get it, and they don't like how

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<v Speaker 5>I'm honest and real.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess where that comes from is the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>when it did upset her, then she was you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you were sort of like, that's on.

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<v Speaker 5>You responsible for other people's feelings. When you're being honest

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<v Speaker 5>about who you are and how you feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Truth can hurt John.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I'm very brutal defending here a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>saying she was upset, and she's oh, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Love the pushback. But yeah, you've got to remember that

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<v Speaker 5>if we're having a conversation and you're telling me how

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<v Speaker 5>you feel, right, are you then responsible for if I

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<v Speaker 5>get upset about that? No, you're You're just being honest

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<v Speaker 5>and like that's that's where being a mature adult comes

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<v Speaker 5>in and you can sit down and actually have a conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>So is Harrison gas lighting me?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 5>How conversations work?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? So if we're going to play good cop bad.

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<v Speaker 3>They give a man's plaining Harris, Now I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't win.

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<v Speaker 5>I just can't win.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, So, if we're gonna play good cod bad cop,

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<v Speaker 2>what about this Harrison? So I from what I can

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<v Speaker 2>see as well, and maybe this is an alternate theory.

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<v Speaker 2>So the story about everything that was happening outside which

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<v Speaker 2>ended up turning into beloney, it feels like the other

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<v Speaker 2>couples have still held onto that story and they've locked

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<v Speaker 2>it in as fact.

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<v Speaker 5>About the other girl you're talking about, Yes, yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It's actually a bit disappointing. Like I was watching last night,

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<v Speaker 5>even the experts were referring to like a partner on

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<v Speaker 5>the outside and all that sort of stuff. I'm like, guys,

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<v Speaker 5>you knew exactly who I was coming in here. I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't shy away from the fact that I was dating.

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<v Speaker 5>All the producers knew, the experts news. So I just

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<v Speaker 5>find it like a bit disingenuous that they're like pretending

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<v Speaker 5>like they didn't know, or and then pretending like I

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<v Speaker 5>was in some sort of a relationship, Like and I

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<v Speaker 5>can say her name now because it's all over the media.

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<v Speaker 5>Abby is a great girl. You know. We had a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of fun, but there's no there was no committed

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<v Speaker 5>relationship there. Like we both knew, like Abby had just

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<v Speaker 5>got off the Bachelor, she couldn't be seen with anyone

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<v Speaker 5>I had. I hadn't been given a wedding date yet,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'd sort of more or less said yes to

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<v Speaker 5>mass So, I mean, we both knew that this was

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<v Speaker 5>a match that wasn't going anywhere. It was it wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>made in reality TV, you know, heaven it was. It

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<v Speaker 5>was essentially, there's no future here. Let's just have a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit of fun, you know, until until such time

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<v Speaker 5>as I had to go in or whatever happens. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>we don't know what the future holds. And Abby wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>the only girl, so it's it's not like it's not

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<v Speaker 5>like I was dishonest about it or hit it from anyone.

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<v Speaker 5>And you saw at the wedding. As soon as I

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<v Speaker 5>was called out for it, I was like, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>like yeah, I was. I was dating around. I was

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<v Speaker 5>dating multiple women, Like you know, I hadn't found what

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<v Speaker 5>I was looking for. That's why I'm here. And the

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<v Speaker 5>the thing is that most of the people in the experiment,

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<v Speaker 5>we're also dating up until the point that they went

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<v Speaker 5>into the experiment. Melinda wasn't. And Melinda made a really

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<v Speaker 5>good point. She's like, well, if you have the ability

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<v Speaker 5>to find someone, why are you here and you don't

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<v Speaker 5>actually see me Stay to Melinda at their dinner party,

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<v Speaker 5>I said, well, if you're not dating and you haven't

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<v Speaker 5>found someone and you're here and I am dating and

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't found someone and I'm here, then measuring by

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<v Speaker 5>the same metric, we both deserve to be here. And

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<v Speaker 5>then Melinda didn't have an answer for that. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>you just see me. Every time I get a question

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<v Speaker 5>post to me, they just cut to me. And it's

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<v Speaker 5>like in reality, I'm actually quite quick on my feet.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, look, there's a couple of things with the

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<v Speaker 5>with the editing that I I can pick up just

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<v Speaker 5>watching myself back. But you've got to remember we're there

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<v Speaker 5>to make a television, so it's not a documentary. A

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<v Speaker 5>lot of it is for entertainment, so you know, you

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<v Speaker 5>just have to sort of swallow that feel.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess mate, if you said everything that you thought

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<v Speaker 2>people wanted to hear, the show would be boring. So

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<v Speaker 2>your honesty is appreciated.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say that, Team Harrison, thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>That's really nice of you to say that. I haven't

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<v Speaker 5>actually had any one to say that yet, so thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we let you go, Harrison, there's a quick little

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<v Speaker 2>game that we'd like to play with you, if that's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because we just want to get.

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<v Speaker 1>A bit of inside.

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<v Speaker 3>Explaining with Harrison. That's a podcast down the track.

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<v Speaker 1>That's definitely yeah, don't ruin it.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to play a game called fairy Tale or Fail.

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<v Speaker 2>So just a quick little rating out of ten of

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<v Speaker 2>all the couples or the main couples that are going

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<v Speaker 2>through it. Ten being a little fairy tale forever. If

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like or it feels like these two were

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<v Speaker 2>meant to be together and one being an absolute dismal fail.

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<v Speaker 2>So can we start with an obvious one? Cam and Lyndall.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's the fairy tale. They are

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<v Speaker 5>lovely people. A lot of respects for Cam, one of

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<v Speaker 5>my best mates. And yeah, yeah, beautiful couple.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and oh.

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<v Speaker 5>Definite fairy tale. Yeah, love those.

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<v Speaker 1>Two, beautiful Melissa and Josh.

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<v Speaker 5>Melissa and Josh, well you can see from episode one

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<v Speaker 5>there where and last night at the dinner party things

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<v Speaker 5>that aren't going well for them. So I'd be very

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<v Speaker 5>interested to see where they go in the future together

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<v Speaker 5>because it seems like they speaking two different languages. Melissa's

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<v Speaker 5>love language seems to be rooting and Josh's love language

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<v Speaker 5>is definitely you know, well, I can't even remember the

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<v Speaker 5>five love languages now, but I think I think if

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<v Speaker 5>there is one about being intellectual and deep talk, that's

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<v Speaker 5>definitely Josh.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of love how horny mill is. I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't know. It kind of really puts me off,

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<v Speaker 5>to be honest. Yeah, if that's all you talk about,

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<v Speaker 5>like there's no depth to a person. If all they

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<v Speaker 5>talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Is sex Jesse and Claire.

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<v Speaker 5>I would like to thank Jesse for taking the heat

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<v Speaker 5>off me get the party for about five minutes. So Jesse,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're listening, shout out, brother, thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 5>Look another couple of to a difficult start. But I

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<v Speaker 5>think that Claire is quite passionate. I think that if

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<v Speaker 5>she puts the passion into the marriage like she is,

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<v Speaker 5>I can really see Claire trying at the moment, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think Jesse just needs a bit of time to

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<v Speaker 5>get out of his own head. So I think I

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<v Speaker 5>think there's potential there and I'll be very interested to

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<v Speaker 5>see where those two go.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, last one, Harrison and Bronte.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, total fairy tale guys. But no fairytale would be

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<v Speaker 5>complete without a challenge that the protagonists have to overcome

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<v Speaker 5>exactly right.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly just before we let you go, Harrison, you mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>the girl on the outside. Her name is Abby. We've

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<v Speaker 4>got an Abby who reads our news for us. Can

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<v Speaker 4>we confirm or deny this was you?

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<v Speaker 3>Abby? I will not be making any comments at this time.

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<v Speaker 3>Morning Abby, Morning Harrison.

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<v Speaker 4>But you do love Harrison though I do, I think

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<v Speaker 4>I'm one of my favorite.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's really sweet, no worries, but yeah, hopefully it doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>work out, because you're quite welcome to come to Adelaide.

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<v Speaker 5>Having you and not one of my favorites.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much, Harrison, thank you so much. If

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<v Speaker 4>you can't handle the smoke, don't light the fire. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't mind that philosophy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well done.

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<v Speaker 5>Bye, guys, Thank you so much for having me on

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<v Speaker 5>Teez made all the best you too, Thank you you, babe,