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Speaker 1: Melbourne Storm and the Penrith Panthers.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 1: Do you know last year's Grand finalists.
Speaker 2: Back at it right here, right now?
Speaker 1: The Panther is chasing five straight premierships.
Speaker 3: That's right, five straight.
Speaker 4: Look, Craig Bellamy, Storm the favorites to stop the run
Speaker 4: of this champion side just doesn't get any better than
Speaker 4: this and is stupidous, fully fit, Ryan Pappenhausen, Cameron Munster,
Speaker 4: Daly and medalist Jerome Hughes.
Speaker 1: Good night, the best player of his generation, Nathan Cleary,
Speaker 1: Golden Boot winner Isaiah Oh.
Speaker 2: Yes, somebody stopping.
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Speaker 1: Blockbuster, Storm and the Panthers.
Speaker 5: We'n off three sixty other weeks from every Angle'll join
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Speaker 2: Great Gordon Talliss.
Speaker 5: We've been General Australian Paul Crawley and Andrew Webster.
Speaker 2: We've got a massive show on tonight.
Speaker 5: We've got two of the South Sindia Rabbitos superstars on
Speaker 5: later on. We're also crossing live to Harry Grant in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: But what about this blockbuster game.
Speaker 5: The Grand Final rematch is here, the Melbourne Storm taking
Speaker 5: on the penwith Panthers, the Panthers coming off that loss
Speaker 5: against the Roosters.
Speaker 2: The Storm flew out of the gates. Gordy.
Speaker 5: Round one had to buy last week. You'd think they'd
Speaker 5: be fresh. They look fast in round one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Pendins was super impressive in Vegas and so we're Melbourne.
Speaker 6: Melbourne coming off of boy Penrith had a hiccup last week.
Speaker 6: But you think if something's going to get Penrith back
Speaker 6: and trying to get back on that winning way, you
Speaker 6: think Melbourne' film will bring out the best Grand Final replay.
Speaker 2: What a game?
Speaker 7: It was unbelievable, wasn't it?
Speaker 8: Like Melbourne in round one I described him as the
Speaker 8: rugby league version of the Harlem Globe Shotters. They were
Speaker 8: their precision and the ability to come in round one
Speaker 8: of the season and perform like they did was quite incredible.
Speaker 8: Penriths were almost as good in round one. But then
Speaker 8: you're watching them in round two and you think what
Speaker 8: happened to her?
Speaker 9: They were very Unpenrth like, weren't they against against the
Speaker 9: Roosters last week? There were parts of I can't actually
Speaker 9: remember them playing so poorly as they did in parts
Speaker 9: of that game. Yet despite all that their class, they
Speaker 9: were in it right to the very last player of
Speaker 9: the game. Penrith are three dollars thirty four?
Speaker 2: Tell me last?
Speaker 9: Well, that's what I'm trying to remember. The last time
Speaker 9: they would have been outsiders like that in the betting market.
Speaker 9: So I don't expect Penrith to play like they did
Speaker 9: against the Storm when they as they did against.
Speaker 5: The Road normally did respond to the Penwrith Panthers th all,
Speaker 5: the thirty four is good?
Speaker 2: Odds? Are you getting on you?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 5: I'm there already, baby with sports? But what about the Roosters?
Speaker 5: Did they find the key to success against Penrith. Yes,
Speaker 5: it's only one game, Yes it's only one win from
Speaker 5: the Chalks, but it was a big one given the circumstances.
Speaker 5: What did we see in that game that other teams
Speaker 5: could take into their performances against the Panthers.
Speaker 8: I think with the Roosters, you've got a wait to
Speaker 8: see how they respond this week and back it up
Speaker 8: against the Warriors. But what they did last week was
Speaker 8: show to me that they have complete faith. The playing
Speaker 8: group have complete faith in their coach. All those questions
Speaker 8: last week about Robbo the recruitment. Has he been there
Speaker 8: too long? Were the players responding to their messages. They
Speaker 8: went out there and they played it so well. The
Speaker 8: pressure that they put on Dylan Edwards and young Casey
Speaker 8: McLain on the wing was quite incredible.
Speaker 5: Just we're seeing these two kicks, that's what they did
Speaker 5: a lot of that really tested the back three of Penrith.
Speaker 5: They can test it every kick. They put the kick
Speaker 5: up high in the air. They had a really good
Speaker 5: kick chase. They didn't let their three wind up and
Speaker 5: make those easy meters as they usually do coming out
Speaker 5: of their own end because they use their back threes
Speaker 5: extra forwards Penrith and in this game the Roosters just
Speaker 5: they had a ploy and they executed to perfection.
Speaker 6: Normally, when you played Melbourne and Penrith and all the
Speaker 6: big sides, you tend to go back in your shell
Speaker 6: and you're trying not to make mistakes. Roosters played their
Speaker 6: own style and that was the key for them. But
Speaker 6: then they defended their mistakes. It's okay if you're going
Speaker 6: to make mistakes and they defend them. It was a
Speaker 6: great performance.
Speaker 9: The way that the Rusters went after McLean and used
Speaker 9: Dom Young's hided band each which they probably haven't done
Speaker 9: enough of in.
Speaker 3: The past, used the ball too.
Speaker 9: It was but the Penrith for mine, the biggest mistake
Speaker 9: for Penrith, or the biggest deficiency was their last tackle
Speaker 9: options were terrible. And that's not Penrith at all, That's
Speaker 9: what I mean. I just can't see Nathan will get
Speaker 9: it wrong to I don't think they'll do it again against.
Speaker 2: Against certainly off there was no doubt about that. Now.
Speaker 5: Ivan Cleary never gives much away and with the gfree
Speaker 5: match on the horizon, he's remaining tylet.
Speaker 10: I've been done for last week. Rather I talk about it,
Speaker 10: sort of said what I said after the game, and
Speaker 10: we reviewed it and got what we need to do
Speaker 10: out of it.
Speaker 2: You get over it and move on.
Speaker 10: So and obviously we're planning on our plates this week,
Speaker 10: so looking forward to that challenge.
Speaker 3: Dylan, how is he going?
Speaker 10: Deal's all right, it's yeah, not too bad, so they're
Speaker 10: not a long turner. But obviously yeah, it's you know,
Speaker 10: you never want anyone to get injured, but you know
Speaker 10: there's plenty of injuries around the league at the moment
Speaker 10: that usually is at so of the year.
Speaker 9: Are you going to this game as rank out side,
Speaker 9: which is quite rare.
Speaker 10: Right, Yeah, you know we're confident and what you know
Speaker 10: and what we can deliver, but you know we're also
Speaker 10: early into a new season with a new team and
Speaker 10: new circumstances and always look forward to this opportunity to
Speaker 10: play on you know, when we get to going down
Speaker 10: to Melbourne's, you know, arguably the toughest road trip in
Speaker 10: the game, so great challenge. Yeah, so yeah, definitely looking
Speaker 10: forward to it.
Speaker 2: He looks like very excited.
Speaker 5: They're looking forward to the game and Cleary and you
Speaker 5: know what, he moved on quickly.
Speaker 2: He's a professional.
Speaker 5: He knows that he wants to put that performance behind
Speaker 5: him and the team and bounce back this week.
Speaker 2: Now what a test it is coming up against Melbourne.
Speaker 5: It's probably the hardest one, I believe at the present time.
Speaker 5: Now with Penrith, every year they just continue to deliver
Speaker 5: with all their players that have gone moved on, They've
Speaker 5: lost some real key We speak about it every week.
Speaker 2: Are we starting to see cracks though?
Speaker 5: Even though we I mean we've said this every year
Speaker 5: as well, mind you, but are they.
Speaker 6: Weak this year with Bunny to get some Sally's no
Speaker 6: more gaps because they feel them really quick. Like then
Speaker 6: every year you're like they lose players and you don't
Speaker 6: think that they're strong in that and yeah.
Speaker 5: But could this year be the year where it actually
Speaker 5: does it does crumble?
Speaker 6: Well I thought that for the last couple of years.
Speaker 6: They keep on yeah, and they keep on jumping the hurdles. Yeah,
Speaker 6: look you know what that was unpenwrith like and then
Speaker 6: you see the way they got broken down and Dylan
Speaker 6: Edwards and you think they've been a champion side have
Speaker 6: they have? They run out of breath, but you know,
Speaker 6: we'll see you on Thursday night.
Speaker 8: You make a good point, though, breath because they have
Speaker 8: fee the cracks, but you continue to lose them. Eventually
Speaker 8: it will catch up you Like they've lost little Wie,
Speaker 8: they've lost James Fisher, Harris Turreva on the wing. Like
Speaker 8: it has to have an impact and as I haven't said,
Speaker 8: then it's round two. They've got a lot of young
Speaker 8: guys that have come into this team and it will
Speaker 8: take time to gel. But there's so much responsibility now
Speaker 8: on the senior players Nathan, Isaiah jo and Dylan Edwards
Speaker 8: who won't be there this weekend.
Speaker 3: He's a huge out.
Speaker 8: Even though we had a bad week last week, he's
Speaker 8: got enough points in the bank and he's missed this week.
Speaker 6: It's huge Leam, Martin Cleary, Leo, Dylan Edwards, and they'd
Speaker 6: probably be in the Penmouth's Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: The Cracks are supposed to be. That's what the salary
Speaker 3: caps for.
Speaker 9: It's only a testament one to the fact that they've
Speaker 9: got nine thousand guniors to tap into and their recruitment's
Speaker 9: so good. And also just the culture of their club.
Speaker 9: You know, like everyone talks about, you know, the great
Speaker 9: players that they have, but the culture that's been built
Speaker 9: there since the end of twenty nineteen when Ivan Cleary
Speaker 9: reset everything and just said this is we have to
Speaker 9: start again. And that's basically set them up for the
Speaker 9: success that they've had. You know, at some point they're
Speaker 9: going to have to not make a Grand Final, at
Speaker 9: some point that they're going to have to fall back
Speaker 9: and and like I'm not prepared after one loss to.
Speaker 3: The Roosters to say that, you know that it's.
Speaker 9: Starting to crum, They're starting to crumble. But I know
Speaker 9: one thing I just honestly think that at the end
Speaker 9: of the day, it's going to be Melbourne and Penrith
Speaker 9: at the end of the year, just like it was
Speaker 9: last year.
Speaker 2: The best team of the modern era. Right.
Speaker 5: So I'm not suggesting that either, but I think they're
Speaker 5: more vulnerable and susceptible this year than.
Speaker 2: Any other year. I think that's that's a fact.
Speaker 5: And you know, this year it could take its toll
Speaker 5: on them. But that's not to say they're not going
Speaker 5: to then they're going to be in the top four.
Speaker 5: I'm talking premier year. That that's that's where you hold
Speaker 5: these guys. That's how supreme and elite society, how they
Speaker 5: judge themselves.
Speaker 8: And you saw in Round one day, going back to
Speaker 8: Round one and you talk about the systems, how how
Speaker 8: everyone was so aligned to what they do, and then
Speaker 8: you had Nathan and Isaiah Yo who stood above everyone
Speaker 8: else and led the way like the champions. That's what
Speaker 8: they're going to rely on more this year than they
Speaker 8: probably have had to in previous years.
Speaker 5: All Right, the sports Bet team selections are in for
Speaker 5: Round one. Let's take a look Round three. Sorry, So
Speaker 5: the Solomona for the Melbourne Storm returns, which makes their
Speaker 5: team even stronger. Laurie replaces Edwards with that Green injury
Speaker 5: at fullback for the Panthers. Look at Roosters, lend you,
Speaker 5: Radley and Collins all return after that big win against
Speaker 5: the Panthers. Tow Malila and Clifford into the starting sign
Speaker 5: for the Cowboys, and I named on the bench at
Speaker 5: a car is included for paramatter.
Speaker 2: On the reserves of this boy they need him.
Speaker 5: And the mainly seaguals Tom Draboievich and DCE named despite
Speaker 5: both having those injuries against the Warriors in round two.
Speaker 5: What sticks out to you, guys out of these inclusions
Speaker 5: for round three?
Speaker 8: Oh, I'd say the inclusion on the bell will in
Speaker 8: the side of Tom and DC. You'd be shocked, wouldn't
Speaker 8: you if they if they risked Tom with a hamstring
Speaker 8: injury this early in the season.
Speaker 7: I don't know what that's about. And DC is a
Speaker 7: little bit the same, isn't it.
Speaker 9: I'm interested to see if if Nast plays. I know
Speaker 9: he's on the extended bench, but what do you throw
Speaker 9: him in or not?
Speaker 3: Do you do you start him? You'd have to, You'd
Speaker 3: have to have him.
Speaker 6: The Cowboys have really struggled Cowboy's really struggled to Malolo
Speaker 6: coming back now and I you know, hopefully they can
Speaker 6: give him the experience and a bit of confidence that
Speaker 6: they need.
Speaker 5: What about the Dragons, Frankie Molo, he has been given
Speaker 5: permission to move on, So that's done, and Dusty can
Speaker 5: he talks through that?
Speaker 9: Yeah, so the Dragons have Well, if it's not done yet,
Speaker 9: it's it's about to be done.
Speaker 3: He's been given a release.
Speaker 9: I think it says a lot about the Dragons, how
Speaker 9: they dug in on this and they've got a six
Speaker 9: figure some back from from Francis Molo to to get
Speaker 9: that release. Where he goes, I'll be stunned if he
Speaker 9: hasn't got somewhere to go, if a dealer isn't stitched
Speaker 9: up somewhere.
Speaker 2: Money back, he's giving money back to leave. He's probably
Speaker 2: got somewhere to go.
Speaker 3: You would think so. You would think so, because you.
Speaker 2: Don't just give money back without a club to go to.
Speaker 3: No, you don't, you don't.
Speaker 9: But to me, boys, I think it's the bigger picture
Speaker 9: here is the fact that you know he's used mental
Speaker 9: health to get out of the last two years of
Speaker 9: his deal. I spoke to the NRL tonight, I thought
Speaker 9: they might might have looked at this. I think it's
Speaker 9: it's a bit of an interesting precedent about it. Look
Speaker 9: at it well, just whether like just the legitimacy of
Speaker 9: his of his mental health claims and whether he should
Speaker 9: have been released from the last two years of his deal,
Speaker 9: like it's it's I was told by not just the
Speaker 9: Dragons but people of the NRL that his manager was
Speaker 9: shopping him around before any of this blew up.
Speaker 6: So I just think there's mental health that's half a year,
Speaker 6: like it's at least half.
Speaker 9: He was on sickly, but but they'd also given him
Speaker 9: advance on some of his pay, so that's why some
Speaker 9: of that money came back. I'm glad the Dragons they
Speaker 9: dug in because they gave early releases to Hunt and Lomas.
Speaker 9: But to me, it's very, very messy, and I want
Speaker 9: to feel I want to see a little bit more transfer,
Speaker 9: a little bit more transparency around the circumstances which time playby.
Speaker 8: Like we've had players, many players over recent years that
Speaker 8: have used the mental health card to get out of
Speaker 8: contracts and go to different clubs. I think there's also
Speaker 8: a concern here, and you can't ignore it.
Speaker 7: With the Dragons.
Speaker 8: In recent years, there's been a few now, hasn't there
Speaker 8: that have wanted to get out of their contracts, and
Speaker 8: this is just another one. Ben Hunt Zach Lomax push
Speaker 8: for it last year, There's been others. Even though in
Speaker 8: the in all instances they've held their nerve. It's still
Speaker 8: a concern that players want to leave.
Speaker 6: Well, the Dragons had a bit of spine when they
Speaker 6: made If every club does it, it won't become the player's
Speaker 6: league at the moment. It's the players league. Whenever a
Speaker 6: player is dirty, they seem to just be able to
Speaker 6: walk and break.
Speaker 3: The thing though. That's that's what The easy sort of
Speaker 3: suggestion is.
Speaker 9: That Flannow's too hard on them and are going to
Speaker 9: talk about elist in the minute before him. Yeah, we
Speaker 9: Hunt wanted out of the Anthony Griffin wasn't there Lomax?
Speaker 9: You know, he didn't like being put on the wing.
Speaker 9: I was told by the end of the last year
Speaker 9: he wanted to actually stay. But he's it's a yeah,
Speaker 9: played on the wing on Sunday.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 5: That molo one was an interesting one. I'm still confused
Speaker 5: as how it all went down.
Speaker 9: So what happened was that that Francis Molo into the
Speaker 9: end of season review. One of the assistant coaches said
Speaker 9: to him, it wasn't a good look that you didn't
Speaker 9: go to Mad Monday celebrations. He said, I'm not I'm
Speaker 9: off alcohol. I don't want to be around alcohol. They said, well,
Speaker 9: you know what, you're one of the leaders in the team.
Speaker 9: Can you please go there? And just you should have
Speaker 9: just gone there, shook a few hands and apparently that
Speaker 9: there's been enough for Francis Molo to want out of
Speaker 9: the club.
Speaker 3: To me, that doesn't line up. That doesn't that doesn't
Speaker 3: line up to me.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 5: Despite clearing the Molo mess, Upshain Funning and still dealing
Speaker 5: with the fallout from his comments about half back Lachlan Ilius.
Speaker 2: Here's what sparked the controversy.
Speaker 8: How's that adjustment period being for lot Eliuslocke and I
Speaker 8: was coming to a very serious injury new club short preseason.
Speaker 3: Are you getting to the point where he needs to
Speaker 3: be slower than what?
Speaker 11: Do you hope?
Speaker 3: Maybe you were here William obviously.
Speaker 6: And that you can make your own assessment.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 5: There is coach Shane Flannagan with his comments postmatch press
Speaker 5: conference about his half back Lochlan Ilius an emotional Shane
Speaker 5: Flannagan reacting to a question asked about his half back's performance,
Speaker 5: how do we see this look?
Speaker 8: It was an emotional response. But he's not a rookie coach.
Speaker 8: He's got to be smarter than that. You're dealing with
Speaker 8: a young man who he his heartbroken last year at
Speaker 8: South Sydney, then he suffered a broken leg. You've brought
Speaker 8: him to the club as you're half back.
Speaker 7: You're two games into the season.
Speaker 8: There's no question in the world he had an off day,
Speaker 8: but he wasn't on his own on the weekend when
Speaker 8: that game was there to be won. You've got a
Speaker 8: lot of experience out there and none of them pushed
Speaker 8: him in the right direction. Yes, Lockey blew it with
Speaker 8: that kick when he went crossfield.
Speaker 7: Instead of going for the field goal.
Speaker 8: But I just thought it was pretty ordinary for your
Speaker 8: coach to hang out to dry like he did.
Speaker 11: At the press Coss, ye hard.
Speaker 3: You would have heard it.
Speaker 9: You would have heard a coach say that. I would
Speaker 9: have heard a coach say that one hundred times during
Speaker 9: my career.
Speaker 7: You know what they went about a rookie about a young.
Speaker 8: Man's and he's coming back from a pretty tough years private.
Speaker 7: I think it's not being bad.
Speaker 9: I don't get it, but I honestly think it's been
Speaker 9: blown up too much.
Speaker 3: Can I say that.
Speaker 11: Boys coach put Jason Tamalala on show? Sure? Right?
Speaker 6: I think one of the greatest forwards to play the game.
Speaker 6: How was he responded in the last couple of years.
Speaker 6: That's one of the greatest players to play up in Northwest.
Speaker 6: So you've got to read the room. I think as
Speaker 6: a coach sometimes because like Wayne Bennett, I think something
Speaker 6: should be said behind closed doors, and Wayne used to
Speaker 6: rip us, but in the media he tries to keep
Speaker 6: you away from it, so then the public don't hamm me.
Speaker 2: I tend to think he did it one closed doors.
Speaker 5: You know I would have I would have given lock
Speaker 5: your spray, told him that he didn't handle the last
Speaker 5: fifteen minutes well enough, told him exactly where he went wrong,
Speaker 5: tore him and you a new one. Really in behind
Speaker 5: closed doors, I just think, yeah, I know what you're
Speaker 5: saying with I.
Speaker 9: Remember been an Olympic park years ago and Craig Bellamy
Speaker 9: got asked about a young Greg English's performance and he
Speaker 9: absolutely decimated him in the in the press conference.
Speaker 11: As you say, what's his name, Yeah, Greg.
Speaker 9: English, and he was a young player. Though, I get it.
Speaker 9: I get it, and look, I think I know. I
Speaker 9: spoke to Flano today. I understand that he you know,
Speaker 9: he regrets saying it as he did. He didn't apologize
Speaker 9: to him. He just said, look, I mean, I've got
Speaker 9: your back. I know you've got ten days before you
Speaker 9: play again.
Speaker 2: He doesn't need to apologize to him.
Speaker 5: But what he did is put his he put a
Speaker 5: bulls eye on his half back, right, and a young
Speaker 5: half who is struggling with his confidence and belief.
Speaker 2: And that is everything. Not in our game, it's everything
Speaker 2: in sport. It's everything, but in particular for halves, you know.
Speaker 5: So he's brought him there, he's trying to build him up,
Speaker 5: he's trying to make him their seven. They've just lost
Speaker 5: the game by one point. You know, he didn't do
Speaker 5: his job, but a lot of them didn't do their job,
Speaker 5: that's exactly. And he's put a bulls eye in and
Speaker 5: he's and he singled him out as a young half.
Speaker 2: I just think it's not going to help him. It's
Speaker 2: not going to help flannel. He asked.
Speaker 9: He was asked specifically abound him.
Speaker 8: But let's your your man, he's locky. Yeah, okay, So
Speaker 8: tell us how he was after the game and how
Speaker 8: he responded.
Speaker 5: Devastated, knew what he'd done wrong, knew he didn't take
Speaker 5: the game by the scruff of the neck, knew he
Speaker 5: should have went for a field goal, inside shoulder tackle
Speaker 5: on Walker. Wet We walked through the whole thing. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he got sprayed by flannel when he was He's fine
Speaker 5: with that.
Speaker 2: He understands that he's a great he's a great boy man.
Speaker 5: He's the public that the public things different And I
Speaker 5: know that feeling because I've been there and a lot
Speaker 5: of other halves have. When you're older and more experienced
Speaker 5: played red footy and you can handle yourself and you're
Speaker 5: a man and you're at the top of your game,
Speaker 5: you know what.
Speaker 2: You don't give a ship when anyone says.
Speaker 5: But when it's your own coach and you are going
Speaker 5: through a patch, you're not quite there yet, and you
Speaker 5: want your coach to believe in In the back you
Speaker 5: and your criticize you, but to you, where he went
Speaker 5: throng wrong?
Speaker 2: Be constructive? Do it behind closed doors.
Speaker 5: I just think, you know, like it doesn't matter whether
Speaker 5: it was Locky or five each other halves in the
Speaker 5: com have you asked for a release out or.
Speaker 8: A serious note though, like you bring up the English
Speaker 8: thing with with Bellamy, where the dragons are at the moment,
Speaker 8: they need Locky Ilius out there playing his best football,
Speaker 8: you know, And as Brace said, that is ammunition for
Speaker 8: every team that comes up against him in weeks to come.
Speaker 8: And Flannel of all people should know that, you know,
Speaker 8: because he's lived it with his son. He has, and
Speaker 8: he's he's and he's had his own run ins with
Speaker 8: with some of Kyle's former coaches that's happened over the years,
Speaker 8: and I just think that he should have been smarter.
Speaker 8: He made this into an instance when he brought up
Speaker 8: that with Pengelli at the press conference. Then he's had
Speaker 8: a conversation with Buzz after that, and it's like there's
Speaker 8: been an apology, but the apologies come too late.
Speaker 5: Doing Brown the weekend, they asked Rosey about his performance.
Speaker 5: He's just on thirteen or deal ten years and Rosey said,
Speaker 5: I know what you're trying to do, and he didn't
Speaker 5: buy it.
Speaker 2: That's Rosy he's.
Speaker 5: A new coach, and he didn't try Dylan in the bath.
Speaker 11: He could have.
Speaker 9: You know, I reckon the big parties with Flan when
Speaker 9: he last coached in the NRL and coach, they were
Speaker 9: real hardened blokes who responded to being spoken to like that,
Speaker 9: either publicly or behind closed doors. And I reckon, you know,
Speaker 9: the game's changed a bit. I reckon players have changed
Speaker 9: a little bit since. Yeah, in the last ten years.
Speaker 11: Tiger and realized I don't respond anymore.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: If you're if you're a first grade half back, you're
Speaker 9: going to have to wear the bullets publicly and privately.
Speaker 2: Of course, it's part of it. It is part of it.
Speaker 2: I just you know, it could have been a little
Speaker 2: bit different.
Speaker 5: Played with Alfred Lucky anyway, all crawls on ready rewriting history.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like I sit there and listened to the conversation
Speaker 8: last night about Guthason and how Paramatta did the right
Speaker 8: thing by him to let him go and sign a
Speaker 8: three year deal at the Dragons, Like we'll forget are
Speaker 8: we forgetting that?
Speaker 2: NELLI?
Speaker 8: The first thing Jason Roll said when he walked through
Speaker 8: the door publicly was that Gutho wasn't going to be
Speaker 8: the fullback my playm at Hawker, my playm at Locke?
Speaker 8: Was that mentioned or maybe off the bench? We weren't
Speaker 8: too sure. Like it was almost like with a twisted arm.
Speaker 8: He walked out the door and I just think that
Speaker 8: you know half home. Yes, Paramatta allowed him to go
Speaker 8: and join the Dragons, but they didn't do the right
Speaker 8: thing by the club where Paramatta are at the moment
Speaker 8: they needed Gupherson's experience here. I'm not saying you had
Speaker 8: to go and offer him a new three year deal,
Speaker 8: but keep him for what you had him for.
Speaker 3: They couldn't compete with a three year deal.
Speaker 7: They didn't have to mate.
Speaker 8: It was he was contracted at the club, but why
Speaker 8: let him go?
Speaker 9: But he approached the club before November one and asked
Speaker 9: for an extension and they said we're not in a
Speaker 9: position to do it yet.
Speaker 3: They didn't say no.
Speaker 9: We're just not doing it now, and they gave him
Speaker 9: the opportunity to go and source or after before No
Speaker 9: Number one last Roles had.
Speaker 7: Come out and said where he's going to be playing.
Speaker 3: I don't think you said where he was going to
Speaker 3: be playing.
Speaker 12: Need of you in the paper if I remember correctly,
Speaker 12: it was if it was actually a quote or it
Speaker 12: was heavy mail, that are going to put him at
Speaker 12: nine or thirteen? Yeah, yeah, But see Paramatter at the moment, right,
Speaker 12: I like, whatever whatever happens with that young fallback at
Speaker 12: the moment, they need experience there and I don't think
Speaker 12: they'd be getting beaten by forty points at the moment
Speaker 12: if he.
Speaker 7: Was out there.
Speaker 9: I reckon GUSA would be laughing because he's got three years.
Speaker 8: But their job is to do the right thing by Paramatta, mate,
Speaker 8: And the problem for Jason made all.
Speaker 6: Their big players have got clauses, but they've had causes.
Speaker 6: They've had a gun to the club's head for a
Speaker 6: long long time. They've lost all their young kids because
Speaker 6: those old blokes they keep on playing it out in
Speaker 6: the media. And Guthhason, right, but I think he's been
Speaker 6: fantastic for Paramatter was but three years and you watched.
Speaker 11: Him on the weekend school.
Speaker 7: It was contract, that's what he was.
Speaker 6: But then all but every week with our where's Gutho going?
Speaker 6: And that's no good for your addressing room either. Well
Speaker 6: for like young kids to let.
Speaker 8: Them and I'll tell you now, you watch that performance
Speaker 8: on the weekend, and they've just lost Dylan Brown from
Speaker 8: next year and and the ball. The more these performances were,
Speaker 8: the hard is going to be for Paramatta to sign someone.
Speaker 7: I truly think I let him go.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 8: Ross has got a heavy job on his hands, and
Speaker 8: you spoke about it last night too. He hasn't got
Speaker 8: Phil Gold there. He hasn't got Nick Politis like Robber
Speaker 8: had when he went to the Roosters. He's a young
Speaker 8: coach that walks into this club and he's got to
Speaker 8: pick him up on his own pretty much. The people
Speaker 8: that have been there in the past have shown they
Speaker 8: haven't done good deals. There's players there that wouldn't walk
Speaker 8: into opposition teams.
Speaker 3: I think this is madness.
Speaker 9: It's two years, two games into a four year rebuild,
Speaker 9: and we're saying he's made the wrong decision.
Speaker 8: Saying he needs nine years. I'm saying, I'm saying, Guherson,
Speaker 8: you would have kept him for his final year. You
Speaker 8: would have made him just spoke about the Dragons making people.
Speaker 11: I mean, Dylan Brown go now at.
Speaker 7: This point of the season. Now, I wouldn't not with
Speaker 7: Mitchell Moses out, you know, I.
Speaker 9: Get what you're saying. When Ready was saying it last night.
Speaker 9: You know they've done the right thing. I agree, and
Speaker 9: Buzz went back at reading read he was a bit
Speaker 9: of a gibber last week with that. You know, here's
Speaker 9: he'll be filthy. I'm sure that's probably him just ringing.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 9: It's like it's i'd be you know, he's you know
Speaker 9: you're not there, it's not. It's a high school footy.
Speaker 9: You know, you don't give another club a you know,
Speaker 9: a gift. But you know they wanted to move on
Speaker 9: from Gutho, and I can understand why. I mean that
Speaker 9: said I'd be faster than him over fifty minutes, and
Speaker 9: I'm a Dragons man. I'm a Dragons man. I'm stoked
Speaker 9: that he's at our club. He's exactly what the Dragons
Speaker 9: need at the moment. He's experienced that. It was clearly
Speaker 9: the best player of the last two weeks in a
Speaker 9: losing team. But I can understand PARAMOUNTA wanting to move on.
Speaker 6: From Suffer suffer over the clause.
Speaker 5: Confusion there at Paramounta whether he's at right or with.
Speaker 9: Dylan Brown, Sorry Dylan b Yeah, So there's been reports
Speaker 9: of the last you know twenty four hours that Dylan
Speaker 9: Brown has no get out clause or Newcastle has no
Speaker 9: get out clause for the entirety of the ten year deal.
Speaker 9: I've been told that's not right, that they actually both
Speaker 9: have get our clauses for the last two years of
Speaker 9: the ten year deal, which will probably probably sit better
Speaker 9: with the Knight's Old Boys Network, who I'm told aren't
Speaker 9: particularly happy with this deal. They're too classy to say
Speaker 9: anything publicly.
Speaker 5: So we've got to wait nine years till he can
Speaker 5: get out of the clause in there in a ninth year.
Speaker 3: But the first eight years willgo really quick break. There
Speaker 3: are comps will be sweet, there clauses.
Speaker 9: But Dylan Brown said an interview there yesterday that there's
Speaker 9: no no clauses in it. Well, clearly Dylan Brown doesn't
Speaker 9: know his own deal, because apparently there is, and there's
Speaker 9: also clauses the Night's way in the last two years,
Speaker 9: so that I think that's I like, that's a bit,
Speaker 9: that's a that's a.
Speaker 3: Bit more reasonable.
Speaker 5: Then he got to year six or seven, he just
Speaker 5: I just signed that.
Speaker 2: He didn't get to these nine.
Speaker 3: He just saw the thirteen million.
Speaker 5: When I'm done, I'm protected with this deal or they
Speaker 5: are protected.
Speaker 9: They are well, they protected protected year in the last
Speaker 9: two years, it's better than ten.
Speaker 8: The narrative that Dylan Dylan Brown has the potential to
Speaker 8: be sort of evolve into a into a Jerome Hughes
Speaker 8: style Cooper Cronk style half back of what Melbourne's done
Speaker 8: with those blokes over the year, I find it a
Speaker 8: little bit misleading because the difference is when Craig Bellamy
Speaker 8: got a hold of Jerome Hughes, he got him on
Speaker 8: rookie wages and over three or four years he took
Speaker 8: him to where he is now and he created a
Speaker 8: player who's still is on nowhere near the money that
Speaker 8: Dylan Brown will get next year.
Speaker 7: And that's the thing.
Speaker 8: The Knights have brought a guy that they want to
Speaker 8: teach to do this job, and they've brought him on
Speaker 8: top dollar.
Speaker 9: Through the comparison with Cooper Kronk is just mad because
Speaker 9: Cooper Kronk went there and he was like the understudy
Speaker 9: to Matt Orford. You know, I remember all the talk
Speaker 9: about Matt Orford and whether he was going to go
Speaker 9: or on and Melbourne were more than comfortable with Matt
Speaker 9: Orford taking a massive deal at manly because they you
Speaker 9: that they had Kronk coming through the system and had
Speaker 9: been in that system for a couple of years. So
Speaker 9: to make a comparison and say, well it work for
Speaker 9: Cooper Kronk, it can happen for for Dylan Brown. In
Speaker 9: that interview last night, Dylan Brown, they was asked straight
Speaker 9: out of your halfway as no, I'm a six.
Speaker 3: So that's to me these alarm.
Speaker 5: Belts about Newcastle having any reservations, A buzz says none
Speaker 5: at all. They're it's completely happy with the deal that's
Speaker 5: been done and no regrets.
Speaker 7: The other way around.
Speaker 3: I find them very edgy about talking about it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're very sensitive to any sort of criticism about
Speaker 9: it and any any discussion about it. Really so because
Speaker 9: they're supposed to be a big well there was going
Speaker 9: to be a you know, supposed to be a positive
Speaker 9: for the club. I know it's well, it's haven't even
Speaker 9: started there yet.
Speaker 6: I feel it's not a Dylan Brown here, it's a
Speaker 6: Knight's that's right. It's the Knights that went there and
Speaker 6: offer him that much.
Speaker 7: Don't put the heat's not on Dylan Brown.
Speaker 8: The Dylan Brown was offered the deal and like we
Speaker 8: all said last week he'd be mad not to take it.
Speaker 8: The Knights are going to come out and they're going
Speaker 8: to make out that everything hunky dory.
Speaker 7: They'd be as nervous as anything like.
Speaker 6: Watching him live. And I'm not a coach. I'm not
Speaker 6: even a backs coach. I don't know, but I thought
Speaker 6: he'd be more suited in the centers or fullback than
Speaker 6: going closer to the ruck just watching him the way
Speaker 6: I saw him play, So it's gonna be like it's
Speaker 6: a big transit if.
Speaker 3: I'm the Knights.
Speaker 9: I am very worried with how he responded in the
Speaker 9: first two games of the season. I would have thought
Speaker 9: someone who'd signed a deal like that would go as
Speaker 9: hard as possible, and it's.
Speaker 3: Clearly on his mind. It was clearly on his mind
Speaker 3: on Sunday
Speaker 5: You stick around, Stick Around, Crawls up next Storm Superstar
Speaker 5: Harry Graham