1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Live on Fox League Best of the Best. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Hey guys, where you go? Where you gotta be? 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Melbourne Storm and the Penrith Panthers. 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: Here we go. 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: Do you know last year's Grand finalists. 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Back at it right here, right now? 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: The Panther is chasing five straight premierships. 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: That's right, five straight. 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 4: Look, Craig Bellamy, Storm the favorites to stop the run 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 4: of this champion side just doesn't get any better than 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 4: this and is stupidous, fully fit, Ryan Pappenhausen, Cameron Munster, 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 4: Daly and medalist Jerome Hughes. 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: Good night, the best player of his generation, Nathan Cleary, 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Golden Boot winner Isaiah Oh. 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: Yes, somebody stopping. 16 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 4: Thursday Night Live on Fox FLUD. I must see. 17 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: Blockbuster, Storm and the Panthers. 18 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 5: We'n off three sixty other weeks from every Angle'll join 19 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 5: me in the. 20 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: Great Gordon Talliss. 21 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 5: We've been General Australian Paul Crawley and Andrew Webster. 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: We've got a massive show on tonight. 23 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 5: We've got two of the South Sindia Rabbitos superstars on 24 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 5: later on. We're also crossing live to Harry Grant in Melbourne. 25 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: But what about this blockbuster game. 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 5: The Grand Final rematch is here, the Melbourne Storm taking 27 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 5: on the penwith Panthers, the Panthers coming off that loss 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 5: against the Roosters. 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: The Storm flew out of the gates. Gordy. 30 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 5: Round one had to buy last week. You'd think they'd 31 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 5: be fresh. They look fast in round one. 32 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, Pendins was super impressive in Vegas and so we're Melbourne. 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 6: Melbourne coming off of boy Penrith had a hiccup last week. 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 6: But you think if something's going to get Penrith back 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 6: and trying to get back on that winning way, you 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 6: think Melbourne' film will bring out the best Grand Final replay. 37 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: What a game? 38 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 7: It was unbelievable, wasn't it? 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 8: Like Melbourne in round one I described him as the 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 8: rugby league version of the Harlem Globe Shotters. They were 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 8: their precision and the ability to come in round one 42 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 8: of the season and perform like they did was quite incredible. 43 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 8: Penriths were almost as good in round one. But then 44 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 8: you're watching them in round two and you think what 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 8: happened to her? 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 9: They were very Unpenrth like, weren't they against against the 47 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 9: Roosters last week? There were parts of I can't actually 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 9: remember them playing so poorly as they did in parts 49 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 9: of that game. Yet despite all that their class, they 50 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 9: were in it right to the very last player of 51 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 9: the game. Penrith are three dollars thirty four? 52 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: Tell me last? 53 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 9: Well, that's what I'm trying to remember. The last time 54 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 9: they would have been outsiders like that in the betting market. 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 9: So I don't expect Penrith to play like they did 56 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 9: against the Storm when they as they did against. 57 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 5: The Road normally did respond to the Penwrith Panthers th all, 58 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 5: the thirty four is good? 59 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: Odds? Are you getting on you? 60 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: What do you mean? 61 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 5: I'm there already, baby with sports? But what about the Roosters? 62 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 5: Did they find the key to success against Penrith. Yes, 63 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 5: it's only one game, Yes it's only one win from 64 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 5: the Chalks, but it was a big one given the circumstances. 65 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 5: What did we see in that game that other teams 66 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 5: could take into their performances against the Panthers. 67 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 8: I think with the Roosters, you've got a wait to 68 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 8: see how they respond this week and back it up 69 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 8: against the Warriors. But what they did last week was 70 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 8: show to me that they have complete faith. The playing 71 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 8: group have complete faith in their coach. All those questions 72 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 8: last week about Robbo the recruitment. Has he been there 73 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 8: too long? Were the players responding to their messages. They 74 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 8: went out there and they played it so well. The 75 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 8: pressure that they put on Dylan Edwards and young Casey 76 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 8: McLain on the wing was quite incredible. 77 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 5: Just we're seeing these two kicks, that's what they did 78 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 5: a lot of that really tested the back three of Penrith. 79 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 5: They can test it every kick. They put the kick 80 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 5: up high in the air. They had a really good 81 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 5: kick chase. They didn't let their three wind up and 82 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 5: make those easy meters as they usually do coming out 83 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 5: of their own end because they use their back threes 84 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 5: extra forwards Penrith and in this game the Roosters just 85 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 5: they had a ploy and they executed to perfection. 86 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 6: Normally, when you played Melbourne and Penrith and all the 87 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 6: big sides, you tend to go back in your shell 88 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 6: and you're trying not to make mistakes. Roosters played their 89 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 6: own style and that was the key for them. But 90 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 6: then they defended their mistakes. It's okay if you're going 91 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 6: to make mistakes and they defend them. It was a 92 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 6: great performance. 93 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 9: The way that the Rusters went after McLean and used 94 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 9: Dom Young's hided band each which they probably haven't done 95 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 9: enough of in. 96 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: The past, used the ball too. 97 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 9: It was but the Penrith for mine, the biggest mistake 98 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 9: for Penrith, or the biggest deficiency was their last tackle 99 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 9: options were terrible. And that's not Penrith at all, That's 100 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 9: what I mean. I just can't see Nathan will get 101 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 9: it wrong to I don't think they'll do it again against. 102 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: Against certainly off there was no doubt about that. Now. 103 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 5: Ivan Cleary never gives much away and with the gfree 104 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 5: match on the horizon, he's remaining tylet. 105 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 10: I've been done for last week. Rather I talk about it, 106 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 10: sort of said what I said after the game, and 107 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 10: we reviewed it and got what we need to do 108 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 10: out of it. 109 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: You get over it and move on. 110 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 10: So and obviously we're planning on our plates this week, 111 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 10: so looking forward to that challenge. 112 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 3: Dylan, how is he going? 113 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 10: Deal's all right, it's yeah, not too bad, so they're 114 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 10: not a long turner. But obviously yeah, it's you know, 115 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 10: you never want anyone to get injured, but you know 116 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 10: there's plenty of injuries around the league at the moment 117 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 10: that usually is at so of the year. 118 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 9: Are you going to this game as rank out side, 119 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 9: which is quite rare. 120 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 10: Right, Yeah, you know we're confident and what you know 121 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 10: and what we can deliver, but you know we're also 122 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 10: early into a new season with a new team and 123 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 10: new circumstances and always look forward to this opportunity to 124 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 10: play on you know, when we get to going down 125 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 10: to Melbourne's, you know, arguably the toughest road trip in 126 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 10: the game, so great challenge. Yeah, so yeah, definitely looking 127 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 10: forward to it. 128 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: He looks like very excited. 129 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 5: They're looking forward to the game and Cleary and you 130 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 5: know what, he moved on quickly. 131 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: He's a professional. 132 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 5: He knows that he wants to put that performance behind 133 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 5: him and the team and bounce back this week. 134 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: Now what a test it is coming up against Melbourne. 135 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 5: It's probably the hardest one, I believe at the present time. 136 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 5: Now with Penrith, every year they just continue to deliver 137 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 5: with all their players that have gone moved on, They've 138 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 5: lost some real key We speak about it every week. 139 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: Are we starting to see cracks though? 140 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 5: Even though we I mean we've said this every year 141 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 5: as well, mind you, but are they. 142 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 6: Weak this year with Bunny to get some Sally's no 143 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 6: more gaps because they feel them really quick. Like then 144 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 6: every year you're like they lose players and you don't 145 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 6: think that they're strong in that and yeah. 146 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 5: But could this year be the year where it actually 147 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 5: does it does crumble? 148 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 6: Well I thought that for the last couple of years. 149 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 6: They keep on yeah, and they keep on jumping the hurdles. Yeah, 150 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 6: look you know what that was unpenwrith like and then 151 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 6: you see the way they got broken down and Dylan 152 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 6: Edwards and you think they've been a champion side have 153 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 6: they have? They run out of breath, but you know, 154 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 6: we'll see you on Thursday night. 155 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 8: You make a good point, though, breath because they have 156 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 8: fee the cracks, but you continue to lose them. Eventually 157 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 8: it will catch up you Like they've lost little Wie, 158 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 8: they've lost James Fisher, Harris Turreva on the wing. Like 159 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 8: it has to have an impact and as I haven't said, 160 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 8: then it's round two. They've got a lot of young 161 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 8: guys that have come into this team and it will 162 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 8: take time to gel. But there's so much responsibility now 163 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 8: on the senior players Nathan, Isaiah jo and Dylan Edwards 164 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 8: who won't be there this weekend. 165 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: He's a huge out. 166 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 8: Even though we had a bad week last week, he's 167 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 8: got enough points in the bank and he's missed this week. 168 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 6: It's huge Leam, Martin Cleary, Leo, Dylan Edwards, and they'd 169 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 6: probably be in the Penmouth's Hall of Fame. 170 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: The Cracks are supposed to be. That's what the salary 171 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: caps for. 172 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 9: It's only a testament one to the fact that they've 173 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 9: got nine thousand guniors to tap into and their recruitment's 174 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 9: so good. And also just the culture of their club. 175 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 9: You know, like everyone talks about, you know, the great 176 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 9: players that they have, but the culture that's been built 177 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 9: there since the end of twenty nineteen when Ivan Cleary 178 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 9: reset everything and just said this is we have to 179 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 9: start again. And that's basically set them up for the 180 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 9: success that they've had. You know, at some point they're 181 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 9: going to have to not make a Grand Final, at 182 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 9: some point that they're going to have to fall back 183 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 9: and and like I'm not prepared after one loss to. 184 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: The Roosters to say that, you know that it's. 185 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 9: Starting to crum, They're starting to crumble. But I know 186 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 9: one thing I just honestly think that at the end 187 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 9: of the day, it's going to be Melbourne and Penrith 188 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 9: at the end of the year, just like it was 189 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 9: last year. 190 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: The best team of the modern era. Right. 191 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 5: So I'm not suggesting that either, but I think they're 192 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 5: more vulnerable and susceptible this year than. 193 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: Any other year. I think that's that's a fact. 194 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 5: And you know, this year it could take its toll 195 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 5: on them. But that's not to say they're not going 196 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 5: to then they're going to be in the top four. 197 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 5: I'm talking premier year. That that's that's where you hold 198 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 5: these guys. That's how supreme and elite society, how they 199 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 5: judge themselves. 200 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 8: And you saw in Round one day, going back to 201 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 8: Round one and you talk about the systems, how how 202 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 8: everyone was so aligned to what they do, and then 203 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 8: you had Nathan and Isaiah Yo who stood above everyone 204 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 8: else and led the way like the champions. That's what 205 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 8: they're going to rely on more this year than they 206 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 8: probably have had to in previous years. 207 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 5: All Right, the sports Bet team selections are in for 208 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 5: Round one. Let's take a look Round three. Sorry, So 209 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 5: the Solomona for the Melbourne Storm returns, which makes their 210 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 5: team even stronger. Laurie replaces Edwards with that Green injury 211 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 5: at fullback for the Panthers. Look at Roosters, lend you, 212 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 5: Radley and Collins all return after that big win against 213 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 5: the Panthers. Tow Malila and Clifford into the starting sign 214 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 5: for the Cowboys, and I named on the bench at 215 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 5: a car is included for paramatter. 216 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: On the reserves of this boy they need him. 217 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 5: And the mainly seaguals Tom Draboievich and DCE named despite 218 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 5: both having those injuries against the Warriors in round two. 219 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 5: What sticks out to you, guys out of these inclusions 220 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 5: for round three? 221 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 8: Oh, I'd say the inclusion on the bell will in 222 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 8: the side of Tom and DC. You'd be shocked, wouldn't 223 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 8: you if they if they risked Tom with a hamstring 224 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 8: injury this early in the season. 225 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 7: I don't know what that's about. And DC is a 226 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 7: little bit the same, isn't it. 227 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 9: I'm interested to see if if Nast plays. I know 228 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 9: he's on the extended bench, but what do you throw 229 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 9: him in or not? 230 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: Do you do you start him? You'd have to, You'd 231 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: have to have him. 232 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 6: The Cowboys have really struggled Cowboy's really struggled to Malolo 233 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 6: coming back now and I you know, hopefully they can 234 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 6: give him the experience and a bit of confidence that 235 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 6: they need. 236 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 5: What about the Dragons, Frankie Molo, he has been given 237 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 5: permission to move on, So that's done, and Dusty can 238 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 5: he talks through that? 239 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, so the Dragons have Well, if it's not done yet, 240 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 9: it's it's about to be done. 241 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: He's been given a release. 242 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 9: I think it says a lot about the Dragons, how 243 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 9: they dug in on this and they've got a six 244 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 9: figure some back from from Francis Molo to to get 245 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 9: that release. Where he goes, I'll be stunned if he 246 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 9: hasn't got somewhere to go, if a dealer isn't stitched 247 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 9: up somewhere. 248 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: Money back, he's giving money back to leave. He's probably 249 00:10:59,360 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: got somewhere to go. 250 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: You would think so. You would think so, because you. 251 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: Don't just give money back without a club to go to. 252 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 3: No, you don't, you don't. 253 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 9: But to me, boys, I think it's the bigger picture 254 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 9: here is the fact that you know he's used mental 255 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 9: health to get out of the last two years of 256 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 9: his deal. I spoke to the NRL tonight, I thought 257 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 9: they might might have looked at this. I think it's 258 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 9: it's a bit of an interesting precedent about it. Look 259 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 9: at it well, just whether like just the legitimacy of 260 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 9: his of his mental health claims and whether he should 261 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 9: have been released from the last two years of his deal, 262 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 9: like it's it's I was told by not just the 263 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 9: Dragons but people of the NRL that his manager was 264 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 9: shopping him around before any of this blew up. 265 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 6: So I just think there's mental health that's half a year, 266 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 6: like it's at least half. 267 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 9: He was on sickly, but but they'd also given him 268 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 9: advance on some of his pay, so that's why some 269 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 9: of that money came back. I'm glad the Dragons they 270 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 9: dug in because they gave early releases to Hunt and Lomas. 271 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 9: But to me, it's very, very messy, and I want 272 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 9: to feel I want to see a little bit more transfer, 273 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 9: a little bit more transparency around the circumstances which time playby. 274 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 8: Like we've had players, many players over recent years that 275 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 8: have used the mental health card to get out of 276 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 8: contracts and go to different clubs. I think there's also 277 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 8: a concern here, and you can't ignore it. 278 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 7: With the Dragons. 279 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 8: In recent years, there's been a few now, hasn't there 280 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 8: that have wanted to get out of their contracts, and 281 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 8: this is just another one. Ben Hunt Zach Lomax push 282 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 8: for it last year, There's been others. Even though in 283 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 8: the in all instances they've held their nerve. It's still 284 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 8: a concern that players want to leave. 285 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 6: Well, the Dragons had a bit of spine when they 286 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 6: made If every club does it, it won't become the player's 287 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 6: league at the moment. It's the players league. Whenever a 288 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 6: player is dirty, they seem to just be able to 289 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 6: walk and break. 290 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 3: The thing though. That's that's what The easy sort of 291 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: suggestion is. 292 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 9: That Flannow's too hard on them and are going to 293 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 9: talk about elist in the minute before him. Yeah, we 294 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 9: Hunt wanted out of the Anthony Griffin wasn't there Lomax? 295 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 9: You know, he didn't like being put on the wing. 296 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 9: I was told by the end of the last year 297 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 9: he wanted to actually stay. But he's it's a yeah, 298 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 9: played on the wing on Sunday. 299 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 3: That's right. 300 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 5: That molo one was an interesting one. I'm still confused 301 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 5: as how it all went down. 302 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 9: So what happened was that that Francis Molo into the 303 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 9: end of season review. One of the assistant coaches said 304 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 9: to him, it wasn't a good look that you didn't 305 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 9: go to Mad Monday celebrations. He said, I'm not I'm 306 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 9: off alcohol. I don't want to be around alcohol. They said, well, 307 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 9: you know what, you're one of the leaders in the team. 308 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 9: Can you please go there? And just you should have 309 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 9: just gone there, shook a few hands and apparently that 310 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 9: there's been enough for Francis Molo to want out of 311 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 9: the club. 312 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: To me, that doesn't line up. That doesn't that doesn't 313 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: line up to me. 314 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: Okay. 315 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 5: Despite clearing the Molo mess, Upshain Funning and still dealing 316 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 5: with the fallout from his comments about half back Lachlan Ilius. 317 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: Here's what sparked the controversy. 318 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 8: How's that adjustment period being for lot Eliuslocke and I 319 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 8: was coming to a very serious injury new club short preseason. 320 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: Are you getting to the point where he needs to 321 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: be slower than what? 322 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 11: Do you hope? 323 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: Maybe you were here William obviously. 324 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 6: And that you can make your own assessment. 325 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: Thank you. 326 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 5: There is coach Shane Flannagan with his comments postmatch press 327 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 5: conference about his half back Lochlan Ilius an emotional Shane 328 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 5: Flannagan reacting to a question asked about his half back's performance, 329 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 5: how do we see this look? 330 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 8: It was an emotional response. But he's not a rookie coach. 331 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 8: He's got to be smarter than that. You're dealing with 332 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 8: a young man who he his heartbroken last year at 333 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 8: South Sydney, then he suffered a broken leg. You've brought 334 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 8: him to the club as you're half back. 335 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 7: You're two games into the season. 336 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 8: There's no question in the world he had an off day, 337 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 8: but he wasn't on his own on the weekend when 338 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 8: that game was there to be won. You've got a 339 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 8: lot of experience out there and none of them pushed 340 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 8: him in the right direction. Yes, Lockey blew it with 341 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 8: that kick when he went crossfield. 342 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 7: Instead of going for the field goal. 343 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 8: But I just thought it was pretty ordinary for your 344 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 8: coach to hang out to dry like he did. 345 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 11: At the press Coss, ye hard. 346 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: You would have heard it. 347 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 9: You would have heard a coach say that. I would 348 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 9: have heard a coach say that one hundred times during 349 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 9: my career. 350 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 7: You know what they went about a rookie about a young. 351 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 8: Man's and he's coming back from a pretty tough years private. 352 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 7: I think it's not being bad. 353 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 9: I don't get it, but I honestly think it's been 354 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 9: blown up too much. 355 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: Can I say that. 356 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 11: Boys coach put Jason Tamalala on show? Sure? Right? 357 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 6: I think one of the greatest forwards to play the game. 358 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 6: How was he responded in the last couple of years. 359 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 6: That's one of the greatest players to play up in Northwest. 360 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 6: So you've got to read the room. I think as 361 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 6: a coach sometimes because like Wayne Bennett, I think something 362 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 6: should be said behind closed doors, and Wayne used to 363 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 6: rip us, but in the media he tries to keep 364 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 6: you away from it, so then the public don't hamm me. 365 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: I tend to think he did it one closed doors. 366 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 5: You know I would have I would have given lock 367 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 5: your spray, told him that he didn't handle the last 368 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 5: fifteen minutes well enough, told him exactly where he went wrong, 369 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 5: tore him and you a new one. Really in behind 370 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 5: closed doors, I just think, yeah, I know what you're 371 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 5: saying with I. 372 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 9: Remember been an Olympic park years ago and Craig Bellamy 373 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 9: got asked about a young Greg English's performance and he 374 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 9: absolutely decimated him in the in the press conference. 375 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 11: As you say, what's his name, Yeah, Greg. 376 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 9: English, and he was a young player. Though, I get it. 377 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 9: I get it, and look, I think I know. I 378 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 9: spoke to Flano today. I understand that he you know, 379 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 9: he regrets saying it as he did. He didn't apologize 380 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 9: to him. He just said, look, I mean, I've got 381 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 9: your back. I know you've got ten days before you 382 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 9: play again. 383 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: He doesn't need to apologize to him. 384 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 5: But what he did is put his he put a 385 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 5: bulls eye on his half back, right, and a young 386 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 5: half who is struggling with his confidence and belief. 387 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: And that is everything. Not in our game, it's everything 388 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: in sport. It's everything, but in particular for halves, you know. 389 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 5: So he's brought him there, he's trying to build him up, 390 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 5: he's trying to make him their seven. They've just lost 391 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 5: the game by one point. You know, he didn't do 392 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 5: his job, but a lot of them didn't do their job, 393 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 5: that's exactly. And he's put a bulls eye in and 394 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 5: he's and he singled him out as a young half. 395 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: I just think it's not going to help him. It's 396 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: not going to help flannel. He asked. 397 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 9: He was asked specifically abound him. 398 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 8: But let's your your man, he's locky. Yeah, okay, So 399 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 8: tell us how he was after the game and how 400 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 8: he responded. 401 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 5: Devastated, knew what he'd done wrong, knew he didn't take 402 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 5: the game by the scruff of the neck, knew he 403 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 5: should have went for a field goal, inside shoulder tackle 404 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 5: on Walker. Wet We walked through the whole thing. Yeah, 405 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 5: he got sprayed by flannel when he was He's fine 406 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 5: with that. 407 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 2: He understands that he's a great he's a great boy man. 408 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 5: He's the public that the public things different And I 409 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: know that feeling because I've been there and a lot 410 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 5: of other halves have. When you're older and more experienced 411 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 5: played red footy and you can handle yourself and you're 412 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 5: a man and you're at the top of your game, 413 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 5: you know what. 414 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: You don't give a ship when anyone says. 415 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 5: But when it's your own coach and you are going 416 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 5: through a patch, you're not quite there yet, and you 417 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 5: want your coach to believe in In the back you 418 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 5: and your criticize you, but to you, where he went 419 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 5: throng wrong? 420 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: Be constructive? Do it behind closed doors. 421 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 5: I just think, you know, like it doesn't matter whether 422 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 5: it was Locky or five each other halves in the 423 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 5: com have you asked for a release out or. 424 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 8: A serious note though, like you bring up the English 425 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,479 Speaker 8: thing with with Bellamy, where the dragons are at the moment, 426 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 8: they need Locky Ilius out there playing his best football, 427 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 8: you know, And as Brace said, that is ammunition for 428 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 8: every team that comes up against him in weeks to come. 429 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 8: And Flannel of all people should know that, you know, 430 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 8: because he's lived it with his son. He has, and 431 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 8: he's he's and he's had his own run ins with 432 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 8: with some of Kyle's former coaches that's happened over the years, 433 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 8: and I just think that he should have been smarter. 434 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 8: He made this into an instance when he brought up 435 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 8: that with Pengelli at the press conference. Then he's had 436 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 8: a conversation with Buzz after that, and it's like there's 437 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 8: been an apology, but the apologies come too late. 438 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 5: Doing Brown the weekend, they asked Rosey about his performance. 439 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 5: He's just on thirteen or deal ten years and Rosey said, 440 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 5: I know what you're trying to do, and he didn't 441 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 5: buy it. 442 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: That's Rosy he's. 443 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 5: A new coach, and he didn't try Dylan in the bath. 444 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 11: He could have. 445 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 9: You know, I reckon the big parties with Flan when 446 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 9: he last coached in the NRL and coach, they were 447 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 9: real hardened blokes who responded to being spoken to like that, 448 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 9: either publicly or behind closed doors. And I reckon, you know, 449 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 9: the game's changed a bit. I reckon players have changed 450 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 9: a little bit since. Yeah, in the last ten years. 451 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 11: Tiger and realized I don't respond anymore. 452 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just you know what I'm saying. 453 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 9: If you're if you're a first grade half back, you're 454 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 9: going to have to wear the bullets publicly and privately. 455 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: Of course, it's part of it. It is part of it. 456 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: I just you know, it could have been a little 457 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: bit different. 458 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 5: Played with Alfred Lucky anyway, all crawls on ready rewriting history. 459 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 8: Yeah, Like I sit there and listened to the conversation 460 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 8: last night about Guthason and how Paramatta did the right 461 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 8: thing by him to let him go and sign a 462 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 8: three year deal at the Dragons, Like we'll forget are 463 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 8: we forgetting that? 464 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: NELLI? 465 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 8: The first thing Jason Roll said when he walked through 466 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 8: the door publicly was that Gutho wasn't going to be 467 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 8: the fullback my playm at Hawker, my playm at Locke? 468 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 8: Was that mentioned or maybe off the bench? We weren't 469 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 8: too sure. Like it was almost like with a twisted arm. 470 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 8: He walked out the door and I just think that 471 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 8: you know half home. Yes, Paramatta allowed him to go 472 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 8: and join the Dragons, but they didn't do the right 473 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 8: thing by the club where Paramatta are at the moment 474 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 8: they needed Gupherson's experience here. I'm not saying you had 475 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 8: to go and offer him a new three year deal, 476 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 8: but keep him for what you had him for. 477 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: They couldn't compete with a three year deal. 478 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 7: They didn't have to mate. 479 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 8: It was he was contracted at the club, but why 480 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 8: let him go? 481 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 9: But he approached the club before November one and asked 482 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 9: for an extension and they said we're not in a 483 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 9: position to do it yet. 484 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 3: They didn't say no. 485 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 9: We're just not doing it now, and they gave him 486 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 9: the opportunity to go and source or after before No 487 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 9: Number one last Roles had. 488 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 7: Come out and said where he's going to be playing. 489 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: I don't think you said where he was going to 490 00:20:58,720 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: be playing. 491 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 12: Need of you in the paper if I remember correctly, 492 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 12: it was if it was actually a quote or it 493 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 12: was heavy mail, that are going to put him at 494 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 12: nine or thirteen? Yeah, yeah, But see Paramatter at the moment, right, 495 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 12: I like, whatever whatever happens with that young fallback at 496 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 12: the moment, they need experience there and I don't think 497 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 12: they'd be getting beaten by forty points at the moment 498 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 12: if he. 499 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 7: Was out there. 500 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 9: I reckon GUSA would be laughing because he's got three years. 501 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 8: But their job is to do the right thing by Paramatta, mate, 502 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 8: And the problem for Jason made all. 503 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 6: Their big players have got clauses, but they've had causes. 504 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 6: They've had a gun to the club's head for a 505 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 6: long long time. They've lost all their young kids because 506 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 6: those old blokes they keep on playing it out in 507 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 6: the media. And Guthhason, right, but I think he's been 508 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 6: fantastic for Paramatter was but three years and you watched. 509 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 11: Him on the weekend school. 510 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 7: It was contract, that's what he was. 511 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 6: But then all but every week with our where's Gutho going? 512 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 6: And that's no good for your addressing room either. Well 513 00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 6: for like young kids to let. 514 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 8: Them and I'll tell you now, you watch that performance 515 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 8: on the weekend, and they've just lost Dylan Brown from 516 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 8: next year and and the ball. The more these performances were, 517 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 8: the hard is going to be for Paramatta to sign someone. 518 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 7: I truly think I let him go. 519 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 11: Now. 520 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 8: Ross has got a heavy job on his hands, and 521 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 8: you spoke about it last night too. He hasn't got 522 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 8: Phil Gold there. He hasn't got Nick Politis like Robber 523 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 8: had when he went to the Roosters. He's a young 524 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 8: coach that walks into this club and he's got to 525 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 8: pick him up on his own pretty much. The people 526 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 8: that have been there in the past have shown they 527 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 8: haven't done good deals. There's players there that wouldn't walk 528 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 8: into opposition teams. 529 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 3: I think this is madness. 530 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 9: It's two years, two games into a four year rebuild, 531 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 9: and we're saying he's made the wrong decision. 532 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 8: Saying he needs nine years. I'm saying, I'm saying, Guherson, 533 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 8: you would have kept him for his final year. You 534 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 8: would have made him just spoke about the Dragons making people. 535 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 11: I mean, Dylan Brown go now at. 536 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 7: This point of the season. Now, I wouldn't not with 537 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 7: Mitchell Moses out, you know, I. 538 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 9: Get what you're saying. When Ready was saying it last night. 539 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 9: You know they've done the right thing. I agree, and 540 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 9: Buzz went back at reading read he was a bit 541 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 9: of a gibber last week with that. You know, here's 542 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 9: he'll be filthy. I'm sure that's probably him just ringing. 543 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: Now. 544 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 9: It's like it's i'd be you know, he's you know 545 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 9: you're not there, it's not. It's a high school footy. 546 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 9: You know, you don't give another club a you know, 547 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 9: a gift. But you know they wanted to move on 548 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 9: from Gutho, and I can understand why. I mean that 549 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 9: said I'd be faster than him over fifty minutes, and 550 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 9: I'm a Dragons man. I'm a Dragons man. I'm stoked 551 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 9: that he's at our club. He's exactly what the Dragons 552 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 9: need at the moment. He's experienced that. It was clearly 553 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 9: the best player of the last two weeks in a 554 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 9: losing team. But I can understand PARAMOUNTA wanting to move on. 555 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 6: From Suffer suffer over the clause. 556 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 5: Confusion there at Paramounta whether he's at right or with. 557 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 9: Dylan Brown, Sorry Dylan b Yeah, So there's been reports 558 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 9: of the last you know twenty four hours that Dylan 559 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 9: Brown has no get out clause or Newcastle has no 560 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 9: get out clause for the entirety of the ten year deal. 561 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 9: I've been told that's not right, that they actually both 562 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 9: have get our clauses for the last two years of 563 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 9: the ten year deal, which will probably probably sit better 564 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 9: with the Knight's Old Boys Network, who I'm told aren't 565 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 9: particularly happy with this deal. They're too classy to say 566 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 9: anything publicly. 567 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 5: So we've got to wait nine years till he can 568 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 5: get out of the clause in there in a ninth year. 569 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 3: But the first eight years willgo really quick break. There 570 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: are comps will be sweet, there clauses. 571 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 9: But Dylan Brown said an interview there yesterday that there's 572 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 9: no no clauses in it. Well, clearly Dylan Brown doesn't 573 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 9: know his own deal, because apparently there is, and there's 574 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 9: also clauses the Night's way in the last two years, 575 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 9: so that I think that's I like, that's a bit, 576 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 9: that's a that's a. 577 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 3: Bit more reasonable. 578 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 5: Then he got to year six or seven, he just 579 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 5: I just signed that. 580 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 2: He didn't get to these nine. 581 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 3: He just saw the thirteen million. 582 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 5: When I'm done, I'm protected with this deal or they 583 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 5: are protected. 584 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 9: They are well, they protected protected year in the last 585 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 9: two years, it's better than ten. 586 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 8: The narrative that Dylan Dylan Brown has the potential to 587 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 8: be sort of evolve into a into a Jerome Hughes 588 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 8: style Cooper Cronk style half back of what Melbourne's done 589 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 8: with those blokes over the year, I find it a 590 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 8: little bit misleading because the difference is when Craig Bellamy 591 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 8: got a hold of Jerome Hughes, he got him on 592 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 8: rookie wages and over three or four years he took 593 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 8: him to where he is now and he created a 594 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 8: player who's still is on nowhere near the money that 595 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 8: Dylan Brown will get next year. 596 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 7: And that's the thing. 597 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 8: The Knights have brought a guy that they want to 598 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 8: teach to do this job, and they've brought him on 599 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 8: top dollar. 600 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 9: Through the comparison with Cooper Kronk is just mad because 601 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 9: Cooper Kronk went there and he was like the understudy 602 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 9: to Matt Orford. You know, I remember all the talk 603 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 9: about Matt Orford and whether he was going to go 604 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 9: or on and Melbourne were more than comfortable with Matt 605 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 9: Orford taking a massive deal at manly because they you 606 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 9: that they had Kronk coming through the system and had 607 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 9: been in that system for a couple of years. So 608 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 9: to make a comparison and say, well it work for 609 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 9: Cooper Kronk, it can happen for for Dylan Brown. In 610 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 9: that interview last night, Dylan Brown, they was asked straight 611 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 9: out of your halfway as no, I'm a six. 612 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 3: So that's to me these alarm. 613 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 5: Belts about Newcastle having any reservations, A buzz says none 614 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 5: at all. They're it's completely happy with the deal that's 615 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 5: been done and no regrets. 616 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 7: The other way around. 617 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 3: I find them very edgy about talking about it. 618 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, they're very sensitive to any sort of criticism about 619 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 9: it and any any discussion about it. Really so because 620 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 9: they're supposed to be a big well there was going 621 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 9: to be a you know, supposed to be a positive 622 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 9: for the club. I know it's well, it's haven't even 623 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 9: started there yet. 624 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 6: I feel it's not a Dylan Brown here, it's a 625 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 6: Knight's that's right. It's the Knights that went there and 626 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 6: offer him that much. 627 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 7: Don't put the heat's not on Dylan Brown. 628 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 8: The Dylan Brown was offered the deal and like we 629 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,239 Speaker 8: all said last week he'd be mad not to take it. 630 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 8: The Knights are going to come out and they're going 631 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 8: to make out that everything hunky dory. 632 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 7: They'd be as nervous as anything like. 633 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 6: Watching him live. And I'm not a coach. I'm not 634 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 6: even a backs coach. I don't know, but I thought 635 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 6: he'd be more suited in the centers or fullback than 636 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 6: going closer to the ruck just watching him the way 637 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 6: I saw him play, So it's gonna be like it's 638 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 6: a big transit if. 639 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 3: I'm the Knights. 640 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 9: I am very worried with how he responded in the 641 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 9: first two games of the season. I would have thought 642 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 9: someone who'd signed a deal like that would go as 643 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 9: hard as possible, and it's. 644 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: Clearly on his mind. It was clearly on his mind 645 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: on Sunday 646 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 5: You stick around, Stick Around, Crawls up next Storm Superstar 647 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 5: Harry Graham