WEBVTT - Sharri | 17 July 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:05.479 Line sharing. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.480 Welcome everyone, Yes, Steve Price, with you filling in for 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:12.320 Shari a week and I'll be back on Friday at 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:16.640 six with our normal program coming up. Disciplined and silent. 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:20.160 Donald Trump turns up for day two of the Republican Invention, 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.640 keeping the world hanging on his acceptance speech, which will 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:27.160 be Thursday, US time. Leaving the stage today to Nikky 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.800 Haley and Ron DeSantis will cross to the US shortly 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.040 back home. Immigration is top three when you look at 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.000 the upcoming election issues. I reckon after the cost of 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.360 living and energy policy. A new study he has showed 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:45.000 immigration hasn't slowed as promised by labor and can you 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.640 believe this stat We're adding a new migrant every minute 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.479 every day. I'll talk to the IPA about those numbers. Plus, 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.520 what is the actual threat of a Trump shooting targeting 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:01.360 Trump style shooting targeting Australian politicians given out tougher gun 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.120 laws and lack of gun culture, you're thinking to be 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.800 pretty slim. I'll run that past our panel, but let's 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:07.800 get into it tonight. 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:08.320 First. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:13.000 A couple of hours apart today, the chaotic and dysfunctional, 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:17.600 delusional federal labor government running this country was on full 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.759 show live right here on Sky News. Now, I can't 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:27.959 split Industrial Relations Minister Tony Burke and Agriculture Minister Murray Watt. 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:32.800 But given the seriousness of the CFMEU corruption allegations, I'll 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.840 give Burke the gold Medal Goose of the Day award. 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:39.440 Now I'll get to Murray Watt a sec But Tony Burke, 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:44.679 the bloke who single handedly dismantled the ABCC, the Australian 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.640 Building Construction Commission watchdog or the coop on the beat. 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.640 That was one of his first actions and one of 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:55.200 the first actions of the new Labor government of being elected, 0:01:55.680 --> 0:02:00.360 giving mobs like the CFMEU free reign. How could Burke 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.960 have the hide to stand up there today pretending you 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:08.200 had no idea of what those alleged thub thugs were 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.600 up to. He attempted to suggest it was news to him. 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:17.280 Sometimes additional evidence comes through the media. On this occasion, 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.919 the evidence about organized crime has come through the media. 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.240 I'm grateful that that's been exposed and that's why we're acting. 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:26.280 I think some of this goes to the nature of 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:30.440 organized crime. But this is something I had not been 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.520 previously briefed on. And it is something that as I say, 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.960 not in terms of organized crime, the organized crime issue, 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.600 and I just go to it was published as an exclusive. 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.200 That's because this was new information. 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:51.240 Seriously, that was Michelle Gratton, the veteral veteran Canberra Bureau 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.280 member giving it to Tony Burke. Now, as I said 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:58.040 last night, blind Freddie was aware of the SEPKA led 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:03.600 union in victoriating the big build projects, extracting inflainted salaries, 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:07.919 threatening non union outfits with violence, getting double six figure 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:12.079 salaries for sign holders, blowing out project budgets and delaying 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.560 those same projects to keep the gravy train rolling. And 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:19.079 it wasn't until the recent investigation by the Nine Papers 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:23.079 shone a very bright light into some very dark corners 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:27.640 that the CFMEU enablers and I speak of the government's 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:31.320 federal and state suddenly had to go, whoops, we better 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:36.000 do something here. Bert the BLOKEOHO sacked the construction police. 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.400 The ABCC had the hide to even try and muddy 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.360 the waters around political donations today. 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.880 Quite properly, they're not made by ministers. These decisions. I 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.920 usually only find out about amounts when journalists know the numbers. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.080 It's not something that interests me, and certainly not something 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:57.040 that influences me. But the national Executive will be meeting 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.880 tomorrow and dealing with this in a fairly firm fashion. 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.280 Get off the grass, minister, you know nothing to do 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.160 with me, he says. I can't do anything. I don't 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:08.760 know how much money was paid. I never asked the 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.960 classics don't ask about something you don't want to know 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.880 the answer to would be my version of that. Burt 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.080 must think we are idiots. Big union, big money. Take 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.720 away the scrutiny, keep the CFMU happy, keep the donations 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.599 rolling in, and we are supposed to believe no one 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:28.440 from alban Easy Burken Premier Alan Down ever heard about 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.880 any of the problems with what is now alleged to 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:35.080 have been amounted to organized crime, a crime gang operating 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:39.680 taxpayer funded construction programs, recruiting bikes, and, if today's reports 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:44.320 are accurate, taking cash bribes. Burke even made the ridiculous 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:48.200 comment that it was crazy for the Libs to suggest labor, 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.919 state and federal hand back the dirty union money to 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.440 the CFME EU. What about handing it back to consolidated 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:59.800 revenue instead of advertising agencies making election ads that will 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:01.039 be news for labor. 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.320 In an election. Here it was Burke on donations. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.760 The concept of handing money back is one of the 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:12.080 most astonishing and absurd ideas I've seen. Are the Liberal 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.159 parties seriously suggesting that at this moment the action of 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.320 the government should be that we hand money to the CFMU. 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.960 Okay, don't end it back, but put it in a 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.480 safe place and don't spend it on getting re elected. 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.479 And what about the hapless Murray Watt? I mean, please, 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.600 this is the bloke who's the agricultural minister who wants 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.960 to ban the live expert of experts of sheep. Now 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.480 he was speaking at a global food forum in Queensland 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.799 this morning. What could possibly go wrong? You'd think, Well, 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:42.640 it didn't start all that well. 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.560 I'd also like to start by acknowledging the traditional owners 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.839 of the land that we're gathering on today, our first farmers, 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.200 and pay my respects to elders past, present and emerging. 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:59.440 Now, the idea Indigenous Australians or First Nations people were 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:03.520 farmers in the modern sense is highly contestable, unless, of course, 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:08.200 you are that author Bruce Pasco who wrote Dark Emute. Clearly, 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.039 what is a fan minister. What also at the Food 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.679 forum full of people you won't believe this who need 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:20.720 reliable base load power electricity for food production, decided to 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.400 unload on Peter Dutton and the coalition's nuclear policy. 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:30.440 Nuclear energy production is a thirsty endeavor. The generation of 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:34.479 nuclear energy requires a significant amount of water. The fact 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:38.159 is that for an already risky policy, mister Dutton hasn't 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.160 outlined where any additional water is going to come from 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:42.600 for his nuclear reactors. 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.760 Gee, Murray, I'm not sure that was the time or 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.880 the place. While extolling the advantages of renewable energy the 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:54.480 great Government wind and sun mantra to combat climate change 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.160 that's threatening the future of the planet, he. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.720 Let a little cat out of the bag big time. Today. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.719 Australian agriculture has been notching up quite a few wins lately, 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:10.640 whether it be record production levels, massive grain harvests and 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.520 exports of beef and sheep meat. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:14.680 There you have it. 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.520 So, while the world climate is in such bad shape 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.600 and people like Tim Flannery talked about dams never being 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.400 full again, no snowball or normal panic merchant stuff, we 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:28.920 are growing record grain crops to make food. Well played, Murray, 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.440 and finally, just by accident, the Prime Minister found himself 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.440 in Brisbane today. There must be some sort of rugby 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.400 league game on tonight, and his tough guy talk about 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:41.320 cutting the cancer out of the CFMEU was even less 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:42.960 convincing than that from Burke. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:48.480 We're not waiting, we're being decisive and we've worked through 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.080 with the Fair Work Commission as we said we would do, 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.640 and with legal advice as we said we would do. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:01.280 There's a lot of words to describe Anthony Albanez, Trime Minister, Decisive, 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.200 in my humble opinion, not be. 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:03.600 One of them. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.000 Then late today, obviously at the urging of the PM 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.280 to try and stem the bleeding, the ACTU held three 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.880 hours of meetings and they cut the construction arm of 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.560 the CFMEU loose and urged the union to work with 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:19.840 an independent administrator. It shows how playing with the devil 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:23.720 hoping you don't get burnt never turns out well. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.880 In the end, and a tip from me gets it. 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:32.360 For the CFMEU protests, the project lockdowns, the concrete pause 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.640 being stopped and a major pushback on any of this. 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:43.840 They will not be pushed around. First up, let's bring 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.400 in our panel tonight, joining me former Victorian Liberal Party 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:50.880 president Michael Kroger and former Labor Minister Graham rich O Richardson. 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.720 Great to see you both. The ACTU they've agreed to 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:59.760 suspend the CFMEU as an affiliate of the movement's peak body, 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.680 Sally McManus came out late today. Have I listened to 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:04.480 what she had to say. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:09.440 This is the best path forward in terms of satisfying 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.960 their members, the trade union movement, the public that they 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:19.280 are the union that is free of criminal elements and 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:20.560 of violence. 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:27.200 Pretty grim little gathering there, Graham Richardson. The unions and 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.600 the Labor Party, they are forever linked. And I don't 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.360 have a problem with that. But when you start reading 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.800 what Channel nine found and you watch sixty minutes, clearly 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.560 the construction arm of the CFMEU in many of the 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.400 states has got to be cut loose, doesn't. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:45.559 It Absolutely should have been cut loose years ago. I mean, 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.559 we've all known about it, Everyone. 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:49.520 Speaks about it, Soto Voce. 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.520 You know, we just don't want to stand up and say, hey, 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:56.120 there are really crooked people in our party and in 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.480 our movement, and we should turf them and. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:09:59.319 Turf them quickly. 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.559 And when you were there when the BLF was de registered. 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:08.360 Is it worse now or not as bad? Is it worse? 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:14.160 Look, I think it depends which state you're in. Some 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:20.719 of the BWU CFMU, to use the current phrase, are 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.319 pretty good, but sadly too many of them are not. 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.920 And we've got to be very careful and so state 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.079 by state you've got to have a look at it. 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:34.559 And where you find people who are basically crooks, you 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.600 just got to get rid of them. You cut them loose. 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.679 You don't let them just hang around like a bad smell. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:44.000 And a lift. You just get rid of them. Michael, 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.240 we're in Victoria. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.280 We knew about it. Everyone knew about it in Melbourne. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.160 I mean you look at all of those big projects. 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.400 They're all over budget because of the fact that all 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.720 of these deals have been done. How could the premierges 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:57.600 Siner Allan not. 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:58.360 Know about it. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.440 Right year wrong? No one knew it, No one knew 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.680 anything about it. It's a complete shock to everyone down 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:09.240 here in the Victorian government. Tony Burke, he's completely shocked. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.440 Words have failed him. And to Cinder Allen, who was 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.720 in charge of infrastructure for a decade here, it's a 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.920 complete mystery to Hershey knew nothing about it whatsoever. No, 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.679 this is all complete news to them. I must say 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.719 credit where credit is due to Channel nine Fairfax and 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:29.040 Nick mackenzie and his colleagues for a brilliant investigation. But Pricy, 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.360 I'd like this to happen. I'd like the members of 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:36.240 the Federal government, the ministers of the Federal Government, Alban 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:40.400 easy Burke and the others, to release all communications, any 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.760 and all communications they receive from anyone in the CFMAU 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.640 federal Estate branches in relation to the Labour Party's policy 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:51.400 to abolish the Building Industry Construction Authority the ABCC. 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:53.560 Were they lobbied at. 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.480 All by the CFMU, and if they were, could they 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.280 release all those communications? Because this inquiry is got this 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:05.160 administrator thing. This is not serious. As the BCA have 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.680 said today, correctly, there needs to be a judicial inquiry. 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.199 But let's see if the government were lobbied at all 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.880 by VCFMU over the Building in Construction Industry watchdog, that 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:15.360 would be very interesting to see. 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:20.520 Pricey, that's very good point, now, both of you. One 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:24.320 of our favorite people on the planet, Kevin Rudd, was 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:27.400 back on the TV today. He's astrated, his ambassador to 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:31.440 Washington very kind to me in several interviews I've done 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:34.199 with him, and he did send me a very threatening 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.440 letter at one point. But Kevin was out speaking on 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:40.440 the sidelines, batting away speculation that his criticism of the 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:44.240 former president Donald Trump could jeopardize his job in Washington. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.440 He talked about the possibility of Trump being elected. He 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.160 was talking with another old friend of ours, Joe Hockey. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:51.960 Have a quick listen to what he had to say. 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.720 The really good thing about the United States is brand 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.640 Australia is in good working order, and therefore we are 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.560 in a good position to work with whichever party is elected. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:09.480 If the American people vote for Donald Trump and for j. D. E. Vance, 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:15.520 Australian government led by Anthony ALBERANUZI will be in there 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:21.199 working hard, positively, constructively with incoming Republican administration from day one. 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.160 Rich Oh, I hope I haven't triggered you with that vision, have. 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:29.760 I Thankfully, when you're in this seat you don't get 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.080 any vision, because, I mean the side of that Blake 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:37.600 just does terrible things to me, terrible things. I mean, 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.200 I just wish I was happy. When he went to America, 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.640 because it was a long way away. But I just 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.360 wish he wouldn't bob up. 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.520 Ever. I want it disappearing, Kevin. 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.359 That's what we want you to do, mate, Just disappear. 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.040 Moderating one Pricey that thought that Kevin looked a bit 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.439 tired during that interview, tired or emotional. 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:58.320 One of the two was that just me. 0:13:59.240 --> 0:13:59.320 No. 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.960 Look, here's the thing when Trump gets elected. If Trump 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.040 gets elected, he gets a briefing on Australia, they're going 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:06.520 to say, He's going to say, right, tell me about 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.640 the Australian government. They'll say, well, the Prime minister's views 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:14.160 are like those of Bernie Sanders, the Foreign minister's views 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.880 are like those of Hillary Clinton. And the Australian ambassador 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:21.760 in Washington hates your guts. So that's a good start 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:25.640 for Australia. On a serious note, with Hockey, I mean, Hockey, 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.040 since you left office has set up at an incredibly 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.640 successful international business and all credit to him. Hockey will 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:35.760 be very important. Actually in America. Hockey is friends with Trump, 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.480 as you said, correctly, He's been friendly with rud and 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.800 good on him for more than a decade. And Hockey 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:44.400 will need to do a lot of work as I'm 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.760 sure he and Rudd are doing at that Republican convention, 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.400 Hockey will be saying to people, no, no, this Rud 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.720 guy's all right, because Hockey is very much Team Australia. 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.240 But Rudd has a lot of ground to make up. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.440 And of course Donald Trump's if he's shown the videos 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.400 of these comments by right and that horrible, horrible Q 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:06.040 and A appearance, he'll immediately start with a very negative 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.320 view of Australia and it'll take more than Joe Hockey 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:10.640 and Greg Norman to fix that. 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:13.240 Rich O. 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:17.080 On a serious note, former Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.640 today says, in the wake of the shooting attempt on 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.400 Donald Trump's life, that it's only a matter of time 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.840 until similar attempts are made on Australian politician. She's backed 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:31.240 a review into protection of MPs that Mike Presulo called for. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.080 You were in politics for a very long time. You 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.520 were I'm sure at points in time potential risk. I 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.640 don't tend to agree with her. We don't have the 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:43.400 gun culture. We don't have the guns. We've had a 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:47.720 few nutters who've committed horrendous gun crimes in this country. 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.560 But did you ever feel that politicians were being targeted. 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:57.000 No, not really. I think we're very fortunate here. You know, 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:01.360 our Prime minister can walk down the street, buy a 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:05.440 newspaper and have a cup of coffee and no one 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.360 is going to do anything about it. No one will 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.680 take any action against him. You can't do that in 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:15.880 many countries in the world. So we are really really fortunate. 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:16.960 In that respect. 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:21.000 But you know, I think with what happened with Trump 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.240 this week, it just shows you that if you've got 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:27.920 guns everywhere, someone's going to use them, and somebody's going 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:32.600 to use them for an illegitimate, in the shocking purpose, 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:39.240 and that's why we don't have the guns. I've always 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.920 had a soft spot for John Howard for the actions 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:47.240 he took in respective guns, and I think, you know, 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.320 it's one of those things where both sides are united 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:54.160 on it. We're going to make sure that we don't 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.560 make it easier to get guns. 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.360 Michael the Richos mentioned there at John Howard, I mean 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.760 that famous photograph of the then Prime Minister with a 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:08.320 bulletproof vest on under his suit addressing members of the 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.080 National Party while he was trying to get his gun 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:17.040 laws through the Parliament. That's one of the most identifiable 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.240 photos we've ever had of a Prime minister in this country. 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:26.000 Yeah, it is, and all credit to John Howard. That's 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.480 why in times of Cristis you need leaders with courage 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.800 and Howard had it on that issue and so many others. 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:33.040 So he did the right thing there. 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.600 I met it that it didn't help him. Years later. 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.919 I remember him telling a story how he and George W. 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:43.280 Bush spoke at a Republican dinner in Texas where the 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.480 MC was going through Howard's achievements as Prime Minister and 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.440 mentioned his restriction on guns, and he said it didn't 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.240 go down too well amongst the Republican crowd at the 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.760 dinner in Texas, but you wouldn't expect it would. But 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:56.560 here in Australia he did a great job on that 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:58.159 issue and all credit to him. 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:00.359 He did indeed. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.680 Michael Croger and Graham Richardson, great to see you both, 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.760 Thanks very much for joining us tonight. Now after the 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:08.600 break the cfma U saga spreadston New South Wales as 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.280 the opposition calls for a Royal commission plus more from 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:16.200 the United States. On day two of that extraordinary Republican 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:25.119 National Convention. Welcome back Steve Price in for Shari. The 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:28.360 English do pomp and ceremony better than anyone else. And 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:32.160 some pictures just in to our newsroom. Now, King Charles 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:36.240 the Third is officially opening the new session of Parliament. 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.159 He will read a speech written by the newly elected government, 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:42.760 of course, led by Prime Minister Keir Starmer. Now this 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.840 week it was announced that King Charles and Camilla of 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.359 course are going to head to Australia in October. I 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:52.199 visit Sydney and Canberra, while the King, of course continues 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:56.080 treatment for cancer after he was diagnosed in January. We 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.120 look forward to seeing him when he arrives with Camilla 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.879 in Australia, when it is I think in October. So 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.280 wonderful pictures in. Look at that pomp and ceremony down 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:11.920 the mall. Camilla is a lighting there from that golden carriage, 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.320 and King Charles will be right behind her. 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:15.119 He will open the. 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:18.639 British Parliament shortly as I said, he will read a 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:22.720 speech that's the tradition in the UK where the incoming 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.680 government will have outlined what their prospects for Britain are. 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:31.679 So wonderful pictures in from the UK the Parliament sitting 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.520 and there will be shots on that as we go 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:35.120 through the night. 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:35.680 I'm sure. 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:40.119 With King Charles opening the Parliament in the UK, well 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.119 let's see if MEU scandal gets worse by the hour. 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.440 There has been calls or obviously for a Royal commission 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:50.440 into that trade union and deals and allegations of corruption 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:51.600 and thagish behavior. 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:52.879 It just goes on and on. 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.399 It started on Friday night with John Setka quitting. The 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:58.359 Victorian branch was in the spotlight. 0:19:58.640 --> 0:19:59.760 Well, that spotlight's well. 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:02.439 And true now changed and it's shining straight on the 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:06.920 New South Wales branch. After the nine investigation, a revealed 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:10.480 security vision I've seen it today online which captured the 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:16.280 state's construction union boss Darren Greenfield allegedly being passed a 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.879 five thousand dollars bundle of cash under the table as 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.119 part of a suspected kickback. Now this is in twenty twenty, 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:27.879 but still, if that's true, then that crisis is worse 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:30.399 than it could ever be imagined. New South Wales Premier 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:34.479 Chris Mins Today's suspended affiliation with the state Labor Party, 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.840 but there are plenty of concerns the action doesn't go 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.920 far enough. It seems to me federal labor and state 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:43.040 labor governments in New South Wales, Queensland and now New 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.960 South Wales have been dragged kicking and screaming to do 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:48.680 anything about it. Joining me is the act. In New 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:52.320 South Wales, opposition leader Damien Chewed Hope, good to see 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:56.919 you again. This mess started, we thought in Victoria, but 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:01.439 if what we saw today, Damien is accurate, it's spread 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:03.120 pretty clearly to New South Wales. 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:09.879 Well, it's an enormous problem. And in fact, Steve, what 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:11.479 I'd be saying to you, of course, is is that 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:14.320 the real person you should be interviewing now is not 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.919 me but the Premiere, and he should be on the 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:20.040 front foot in relation to this and assuring the people 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:23.320 who work in the construction industries, both the employees and 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:27.640 the employers, that their integrity is something that he holds sacred. 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:32.280 But it has taken the New South Wales premiere three 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:37.560 days to formulate a reaction to these allegations. Initially, he 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:45.080 says that well, the fees paid by the union by 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:48.719 way of affiliation fees were not really political donations. Today 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.600 they are all of a sudden, But he doesn't want 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:54.240 to say we'll give back the money we've received since 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:58.240 two thousand, because that would be impossible to do. Really 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.720 and truly, I think there is a growing demand for 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:04.800 the benefit of the workers in this industry to have 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:08.560 a royal commission, because it actually gives assurance that this 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.040 is an industry which will be cleaned up and we 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:14.800 will put in place measures to ensure that it is 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:16.880 an industry which is free from corruption. 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:20.440 You and I have been around a long time. 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:24.919 The ACTU came out today late this afternoon suspended affiliation 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:29.080 with the construction arm of the CFMEU. You I can 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:34.200 only suspect that either the Prime Minister's office or Tony 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:36.760 Birk's office have been on the phone saying, for goodness sake, 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:39.199 try and drag us out of this mess, because the 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:42.679 state premier is initially including Jacinta Allen here and Victoria 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:44.000 did not want to get involved. 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:46.640 Well. 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.080 The problem that the ILP has in relation to this 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:54.120 is that the general perception that who pays the piper 0:22:54.200 --> 0:23:00.880 calls the churn runs absolutely true to this scenario. This 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:05.000 is a union engaged in corrupt activity building some of 0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:09.399 the most important infrastructure for the state, hopefully dragging us 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:12.800 through a housing crisis that we need to get through 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:16.359 and build the cheapest possible housing. If they are part 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:22.440