Speaker 1: Line sharing.
Speaker 2: Welcome everyone, Yes, Steve Price, with you filling in for
Speaker 2: Shari a week and I'll be back on Friday at
Speaker 2: six with our normal program coming up. Disciplined and silent.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump turns up for day two of the Republican Invention,
Speaker 2: keeping the world hanging on his acceptance speech, which will
Speaker 2: be Thursday, US time. Leaving the stage today to Nikky
Speaker 2: Haley and Ron DeSantis will cross to the US shortly
Speaker 2: back home. Immigration is top three when you look at
Speaker 2: the upcoming election issues. I reckon after the cost of
Speaker 2: living and energy policy. A new study he has showed
Speaker 2: immigration hasn't slowed as promised by labor and can you
Speaker 2: believe this stat We're adding a new migrant every minute
Speaker 2: every day. I'll talk to the IPA about those numbers. Plus,
Speaker 2: what is the actual threat of a Trump shooting targeting
Speaker 2: Trump style shooting targeting Australian politicians given out tougher gun
Speaker 2: laws and lack of gun culture, you're thinking to be
Speaker 2: pretty slim. I'll run that past our panel, but let's
Speaker 2: get into it tonight.
Speaker 1: First.
Speaker 2: A couple of hours apart today, the chaotic and dysfunctional,
Speaker 2: delusional federal labor government running this country was on full
Speaker 2: show live right here on Sky News. Now, I can't
Speaker 2: split Industrial Relations Minister Tony Burke and Agriculture Minister Murray Watt.
Speaker 2: But given the seriousness of the CFMEU corruption allegations, I'll
Speaker 2: give Burke the gold Medal Goose of the Day award.
Speaker 2: Now I'll get to Murray Watt a sec But Tony Burke,
Speaker 2: the bloke who single handedly dismantled the ABCC, the Australian
Speaker 2: Building Construction Commission watchdog or the coop on the beat.
Speaker 2: That was one of his first actions and one of
Speaker 2: the first actions of the new Labor government of being elected,
Speaker 2: giving mobs like the CFMEU free reign. How could Burke
Speaker 2: have the hide to stand up there today pretending you
Speaker 2: had no idea of what those alleged thub thugs were
Speaker 2: up to. He attempted to suggest it was news to him.
Speaker 3: Sometimes additional evidence comes through the media. On this occasion,
Speaker 3: the evidence about organized crime has come through the media.
Speaker 3: I'm grateful that that's been exposed and that's why we're acting.
Speaker 3: I think some of this goes to the nature of
Speaker 3: organized crime. But this is something I had not been
Speaker 3: previously briefed on. And it is something that as I say,
Speaker 3: not in terms of organized crime, the organized crime issue,
Speaker 3: and I just go to it was published as an exclusive.
Speaker 3: That's because this was new information.
Speaker 2: Seriously, that was Michelle Gratton, the veteral veteran Canberra Bureau
Speaker 2: member giving it to Tony Burke. Now, as I said
Speaker 2: last night, blind Freddie was aware of the SEPKA led
Speaker 2: union in victoriating the big build projects, extracting inflainted salaries,
Speaker 2: threatening non union outfits with violence, getting double six figure
Speaker 2: salaries for sign holders, blowing out project budgets and delaying
Speaker 2: those same projects to keep the gravy train rolling. And
Speaker 2: it wasn't until the recent investigation by the Nine Papers
Speaker 2: shone a very bright light into some very dark corners
Speaker 2: that the CFMEU enablers and I speak of the government's
Speaker 2: federal and state suddenly had to go, whoops, we better
Speaker 2: do something here. Bert the BLOKEOHO sacked the construction police.
Speaker 2: The ABCC had the hide to even try and muddy
Speaker 2: the waters around political donations today.
Speaker 3: Quite properly, they're not made by ministers. These decisions. I
Speaker 3: usually only find out about amounts when journalists know the numbers.
Speaker 3: It's not something that interests me, and certainly not something
Speaker 3: that influences me. But the national Executive will be meeting
Speaker 3: tomorrow and dealing with this in a fairly firm fashion.
Speaker 2: Get off the grass, minister, you know nothing to do
Speaker 2: with me, he says. I can't do anything. I don't
Speaker 2: know how much money was paid. I never asked the
Speaker 2: classics don't ask about something you don't want to know
Speaker 2: the answer to would be my version of that. Burt
Speaker 2: must think we are idiots. Big union, big money. Take
Speaker 2: away the scrutiny, keep the CFMU happy, keep the donations
Speaker 2: rolling in, and we are supposed to believe no one
Speaker 2: from alban Easy Burken Premier Alan Down ever heard about
Speaker 2: any of the problems with what is now alleged to
Speaker 2: have been amounted to organized crime, a crime gang operating
Speaker 2: taxpayer funded construction programs, recruiting bikes, and, if today's reports
Speaker 2: are accurate, taking cash bribes. Burke even made the ridiculous
Speaker 2: comment that it was crazy for the Libs to suggest labor,
Speaker 2: state and federal hand back the dirty union money to
Speaker 2: the CFME EU. What about handing it back to consolidated
Speaker 2: revenue instead of advertising agencies making election ads that will
Speaker 2: be news for labor.
Speaker 1: In an election. Here it was Burke on donations.
Speaker 3: The concept of handing money back is one of the
Speaker 3: most astonishing and absurd ideas I've seen. Are the Liberal
Speaker 3: parties seriously suggesting that at this moment the action of
Speaker 3: the government should be that we hand money to the CFMU.
Speaker 2: Okay, don't end it back, but put it in a
Speaker 2: safe place and don't spend it on getting re elected.
Speaker 2: And what about the hapless Murray Watt? I mean, please,
Speaker 2: this is the bloke who's the agricultural minister who wants
Speaker 2: to ban the live expert of experts of sheep. Now
Speaker 2: he was speaking at a global food forum in Queensland
Speaker 2: this morning. What could possibly go wrong? You'd think, Well,
Speaker 2: it didn't start all that well.
Speaker 4: I'd also like to start by acknowledging the traditional owners
Speaker 4: of the land that we're gathering on today, our first farmers,
Speaker 4: and pay my respects to elders past, present and emerging.
Speaker 2: Now, the idea Indigenous Australians or First Nations people were
Speaker 2: farmers in the modern sense is highly contestable, unless, of course,
Speaker 2: you are that author Bruce Pasco who wrote Dark Emute. Clearly,
Speaker 2: what is a fan minister. What also at the Food
Speaker 2: forum full of people you won't believe this who need
Speaker 2: reliable base load power electricity for food production, decided to
Speaker 2: unload on Peter Dutton and the coalition's nuclear policy.
Speaker 4: Nuclear energy production is a thirsty endeavor. The generation of
Speaker 4: nuclear energy requires a significant amount of water. The fact
Speaker 4: is that for an already risky policy, mister Dutton hasn't
Speaker 4: outlined where any additional water is going to come from
Speaker 4: for his nuclear reactors.
Speaker 2: Gee, Murray, I'm not sure that was the time or
Speaker 2: the place. While extolling the advantages of renewable energy the
Speaker 2: great Government wind and sun mantra to combat climate change
Speaker 2: that's threatening the future of the planet, he.
Speaker 1: Let a little cat out of the bag big time. Today.
Speaker 4: Australian agriculture has been notching up quite a few wins lately,
Speaker 4: whether it be record production levels, massive grain harvests and
Speaker 4: exports of beef and sheep meat.
Speaker 1: There you have it.
Speaker 2: So, while the world climate is in such bad shape
Speaker 2: and people like Tim Flannery talked about dams never being
Speaker 2: full again, no snowball or normal panic merchant stuff, we
Speaker 2: are growing record grain crops to make food. Well played, Murray,
Speaker 2: and finally, just by accident, the Prime Minister found himself
Speaker 2: in Brisbane today. There must be some sort of rugby
Speaker 2: league game on tonight, and his tough guy talk about
Speaker 2: cutting the cancer out of the CFMEU was even less
Speaker 2: convincing than that from Burke.
Speaker 5: We're not waiting, we're being decisive and we've worked through
Speaker 5: with the Fair Work Commission as we said we would do,
Speaker 5: and with legal advice as we said we would do.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of words to describe Anthony Albanez, Trime Minister, Decisive,
Speaker 2: in my humble opinion, not be.
Speaker 1: One of them.
Speaker 2: Then late today, obviously at the urging of the PM
Speaker 2: to try and stem the bleeding, the ACTU held three
Speaker 2: hours of meetings and they cut the construction arm of
Speaker 2: the CFMEU loose and urged the union to work with
Speaker 2: an independent administrator. It shows how playing with the devil
Speaker 2: hoping you don't get burnt never turns out well.
Speaker 1: In the end, and a tip from me gets it.
Speaker 2: For the CFMEU protests, the project lockdowns, the concrete pause
Speaker 2: being stopped and a major pushback on any of this.
Speaker 2: They will not be pushed around. First up, let's bring
Speaker 2: in our panel tonight, joining me former Victorian Liberal Party
Speaker 2: president Michael Kroger and former Labor Minister Graham rich O Richardson.
Speaker 2: Great to see you both. The ACTU they've agreed to
Speaker 2: suspend the CFMEU as an affiliate of the movement's peak body,
Speaker 2: Sally McManus came out late today. Have I listened to
Speaker 2: what she had to say.
Speaker 6: This is the best path forward in terms of satisfying
Speaker 6: their members, the trade union movement, the public that they
Speaker 6: are the union that is free of criminal elements and
Speaker 6: of violence.
Speaker 2: Pretty grim little gathering there, Graham Richardson. The unions and
Speaker 2: the Labor Party, they are forever linked. And I don't
Speaker 2: have a problem with that. But when you start reading
Speaker 2: what Channel nine found and you watch sixty minutes, clearly
Speaker 2: the construction arm of the CFMEU in many of the
Speaker 2: states has got to be cut loose, doesn't.
Speaker 7: It Absolutely should have been cut loose years ago. I mean,
Speaker 7: we've all known about it, Everyone.
Speaker 1: Speaks about it, Soto Voce.
Speaker 7: You know, we just don't want to stand up and say, hey,
Speaker 7: there are really crooked people in our party and in
Speaker 7: our movement, and we should turf them and.
Speaker 1: Turf them quickly.
Speaker 2: And when you were there when the BLF was de registered.
Speaker 2: Is it worse now or not as bad? Is it worse?
Speaker 7: Look, I think it depends which state you're in. Some
Speaker 7: of the BWU CFMU, to use the current phrase, are
Speaker 7: pretty good, but sadly too many of them are not.
Speaker 7: And we've got to be very careful and so state
Speaker 7: by state you've got to have a look at it.
Speaker 7: And where you find people who are basically crooks, you
Speaker 7: just got to get rid of them. You cut them loose.
Speaker 7: You don't let them just hang around like a bad smell.
Speaker 1: And a lift. You just get rid of them. Michael,
Speaker 1: we're in Victoria.
Speaker 2: We knew about it. Everyone knew about it in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: I mean you look at all of those big projects.
Speaker 2: They're all over budget because of the fact that all
Speaker 2: of these deals have been done. How could the premierges
Speaker 2: Siner Allan not.
Speaker 1: Know about it.
Speaker 8: Right year wrong? No one knew it, No one knew
Speaker 8: anything about it. It's a complete shock to everyone down
Speaker 8: here in the Victorian government. Tony Burke, he's completely shocked.
Speaker 8: Words have failed him. And to Cinder Allen, who was
Speaker 8: in charge of infrastructure for a decade here, it's a
Speaker 8: complete mystery to Hershey knew nothing about it whatsoever. No,
Speaker 8: this is all complete news to them. I must say
Speaker 8: credit where credit is due to Channel nine Fairfax and
Speaker 8: Nick mackenzie and his colleagues for a brilliant investigation. But Pricy,
Speaker 8: I'd like this to happen. I'd like the members of
Speaker 8: the Federal government, the ministers of the Federal Government, Alban
Speaker 8: easy Burke and the others, to release all communications, any
Speaker 8: and all communications they receive from anyone in the CFMAU
Speaker 8: federal Estate branches in relation to the Labour Party's policy
Speaker 8: to abolish the Building Industry Construction Authority the ABCC.
Speaker 1: Were they lobbied at.
Speaker 8: All by the CFMU, and if they were, could they
Speaker 8: release all those communications? Because this inquiry is got this
Speaker 8: administrator thing. This is not serious. As the BCA have
Speaker 8: said today, correctly, there needs to be a judicial inquiry.
Speaker 8: But let's see if the government were lobbied at all
Speaker 8: by VCFMU over the Building in Construction Industry watchdog, that
Speaker 8: would be very interesting to see.
Speaker 2: Pricey, that's very good point, now, both of you. One
Speaker 2: of our favorite people on the planet, Kevin Rudd, was
Speaker 2: back on the TV today. He's astrated, his ambassador to
Speaker 2: Washington very kind to me in several interviews I've done
Speaker 2: with him, and he did send me a very threatening
Speaker 2: letter at one point. But Kevin was out speaking on
Speaker 2: the sidelines, batting away speculation that his criticism of the
Speaker 2: former president Donald Trump could jeopardize his job in Washington.
Speaker 2: He talked about the possibility of Trump being elected. He
Speaker 2: was talking with another old friend of ours, Joe Hockey.
Speaker 2: Have a quick listen to what he had to say.
Speaker 9: The really good thing about the United States is brand
Speaker 9: Australia is in good working order, and therefore we are
Speaker 9: in a good position to work with whichever party is elected.
Speaker 9: If the American people vote for Donald Trump and for j. D. E. Vance,
Speaker 9: Australian government led by Anthony ALBERANUZI will be in there
Speaker 9: working hard, positively, constructively with incoming Republican administration from day one.
Speaker 2: Rich Oh, I hope I haven't triggered you with that vision, have.
Speaker 7: I Thankfully, when you're in this seat you don't get
Speaker 7: any vision, because, I mean the side of that Blake
Speaker 7: just does terrible things to me, terrible things. I mean,
Speaker 7: I just wish I was happy. When he went to America,
Speaker 7: because it was a long way away. But I just
Speaker 7: wish he wouldn't bob up.
Speaker 1: Ever. I want it disappearing, Kevin.
Speaker 7: That's what we want you to do, mate, Just disappear.
Speaker 8: Moderating one Pricey that thought that Kevin looked a bit
Speaker 8: tired during that interview, tired or emotional.
Speaker 1: One of the two was that just me.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 8: Look, here's the thing when Trump gets elected. If Trump
Speaker 8: gets elected, he gets a briefing on Australia, they're going
Speaker 8: to say, He's going to say, right, tell me about
Speaker 8: the Australian government. They'll say, well, the Prime minister's views
Speaker 8: are like those of Bernie Sanders, the Foreign minister's views
Speaker 8: are like those of Hillary Clinton. And the Australian ambassador
Speaker 8: in Washington hates your guts. So that's a good start
Speaker 8: for Australia. On a serious note, with Hockey, I mean, Hockey,
Speaker 8: since you left office has set up at an incredibly
Speaker 8: successful international business and all credit to him. Hockey will
Speaker 8: be very important. Actually in America. Hockey is friends with Trump,
Speaker 8: as you said, correctly, He's been friendly with rud and
Speaker 8: good on him for more than a decade. And Hockey
Speaker 8: will need to do a lot of work as I'm
Speaker 8: sure he and Rudd are doing at that Republican convention,
Speaker 8: Hockey will be saying to people, no, no, this Rud
Speaker 8: guy's all right, because Hockey is very much Team Australia.
Speaker 8: But Rudd has a lot of ground to make up.
Speaker 8: And of course Donald Trump's if he's shown the videos
Speaker 8: of these comments by right and that horrible, horrible Q
Speaker 8: and A appearance, he'll immediately start with a very negative
Speaker 8: view of Australia and it'll take more than Joe Hockey
Speaker 8: and Greg Norman to fix that.
Speaker 1: Rich O.
Speaker 2: On a serious note, former Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews
Speaker 2: today says, in the wake of the shooting attempt on
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's life, that it's only a matter of time
Speaker 2: until similar attempts are made on Australian politician. She's backed
Speaker 2: a review into protection of MPs that Mike Presulo called for.
Speaker 2: You were in politics for a very long time. You
Speaker 2: were I'm sure at points in time potential risk. I
Speaker 2: don't tend to agree with her. We don't have the
Speaker 2: gun culture. We don't have the guns. We've had a
Speaker 2: few nutters who've committed horrendous gun crimes in this country.
Speaker 2: But did you ever feel that politicians were being targeted.
Speaker 7: No, not really. I think we're very fortunate here. You know,
Speaker 7: our Prime minister can walk down the street, buy a
Speaker 7: newspaper and have a cup of coffee and no one
Speaker 7: is going to do anything about it. No one will
Speaker 7: take any action against him. You can't do that in
Speaker 7: many countries in the world. So we are really really fortunate.
Speaker 1: In that respect.
Speaker 7: But you know, I think with what happened with Trump
Speaker 7: this week, it just shows you that if you've got
Speaker 7: guns everywhere, someone's going to use them, and somebody's going
Speaker 7: to use them for an illegitimate, in the shocking purpose,
Speaker 7: and that's why we don't have the guns. I've always
Speaker 7: had a soft spot for John Howard for the actions
Speaker 7: he took in respective guns, and I think, you know,
Speaker 7: it's one of those things where both sides are united
Speaker 7: on it. We're going to make sure that we don't
Speaker 7: make it easier to get guns.
Speaker 2: Michael the Richos mentioned there at John Howard, I mean
Speaker 2: that famous photograph of the then Prime Minister with a
Speaker 2: bulletproof vest on under his suit addressing members of the
Speaker 2: National Party while he was trying to get his gun
Speaker 2: laws through the Parliament. That's one of the most identifiable
Speaker 2: photos we've ever had of a Prime minister in this country.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it is, and all credit to John Howard. That's
Speaker 8: why in times of Cristis you need leaders with courage
Speaker 8: and Howard had it on that issue and so many others.
Speaker 8: So he did the right thing there.
Speaker 1: I met it that it didn't help him. Years later.
Speaker 8: I remember him telling a story how he and George W.
Speaker 8: Bush spoke at a Republican dinner in Texas where the
Speaker 8: MC was going through Howard's achievements as Prime Minister and
Speaker 8: mentioned his restriction on guns, and he said it didn't
Speaker 8: go down too well amongst the Republican crowd at the
Speaker 8: dinner in Texas, but you wouldn't expect it would. But
Speaker 8: here in Australia he did a great job on that
Speaker 8: issue and all credit to him.
Speaker 1: He did indeed.
Speaker 2: Michael Croger and Graham Richardson, great to see you both,
Speaker 2: Thanks very much for joining us tonight. Now after the
Speaker 2: break the cfma U saga spreadston New South Wales as
Speaker 2: the opposition calls for a Royal commission plus more from
Speaker 2: the United States. On day two of that extraordinary Republican
Speaker 2: National Convention. Welcome back Steve Price in for Shari. The
Speaker 2: English do pomp and ceremony better than anyone else. And
Speaker 2: some pictures just in to our newsroom. Now, King Charles
Speaker 2: the Third is officially opening the new session of Parliament.
Speaker 2: He will read a speech written by the newly elected government,
Speaker 2: of course, led by Prime Minister Keir Starmer. Now this
Speaker 2: week it was announced that King Charles and Camilla of
Speaker 2: course are going to head to Australia in October. I
Speaker 2: visit Sydney and Canberra, while the King, of course continues
Speaker 2: treatment for cancer after he was diagnosed in January. We
Speaker 2: look forward to seeing him when he arrives with Camilla
Speaker 2: in Australia, when it is I think in October. So
Speaker 2: wonderful pictures in. Look at that pomp and ceremony down
Speaker 2: the mall. Camilla is a lighting there from that golden carriage,
Speaker 2: and King Charles will be right behind her.
Speaker 1: He will open the.
Speaker 2: British Parliament shortly as I said, he will read a
Speaker 2: speech that's the tradition in the UK where the incoming
Speaker 2: government will have outlined what their prospects for Britain are.
Speaker 2: So wonderful pictures in from the UK the Parliament sitting
Speaker 2: and there will be shots on that as we go
Speaker 2: through the night.
Speaker 1: I'm sure.
Speaker 2: With King Charles opening the Parliament in the UK, well
Speaker 2: let's see if MEU scandal gets worse by the hour.
Speaker 2: There has been calls or obviously for a Royal commission
Speaker 2: into that trade union and deals and allegations of corruption
Speaker 2: and thagish behavior.
Speaker 1: It just goes on and on.
Speaker 2: It started on Friday night with John Setka quitting. The
Speaker 2: Victorian branch was in the spotlight.
Speaker 1: Well, that spotlight's well.
Speaker 2: And true now changed and it's shining straight on the
Speaker 2: New South Wales branch. After the nine investigation, a revealed
Speaker 2: security vision I've seen it today online which captured the
Speaker 2: state's construction union boss Darren Greenfield allegedly being passed a
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars bundle of cash under the table as
Speaker 2: part of a suspected kickback. Now this is in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: but still, if that's true, then that crisis is worse
Speaker 2: than it could ever be imagined. New South Wales Premier
Speaker 2: Chris Mins Today's suspended affiliation with the state Labor Party,
Speaker 2: but there are plenty of concerns the action doesn't go
Speaker 2: far enough. It seems to me federal labor and state
Speaker 2: labor governments in New South Wales, Queensland and now New
Speaker 2: South Wales have been dragged kicking and screaming to do
Speaker 2: anything about it. Joining me is the act. In New
Speaker 2: South Wales, opposition leader Damien Chewed Hope, good to see
Speaker 2: you again. This mess started, we thought in Victoria, but
Speaker 2: if what we saw today, Damien is accurate, it's spread
Speaker 2: pretty clearly to New South Wales.
Speaker 11: Well, it's an enormous problem. And in fact, Steve, what
Speaker 11: I'd be saying to you, of course, is is that
Speaker 11: the real person you should be interviewing now is not
Speaker 11: me but the Premiere, and he should be on the
Speaker 11: front foot in relation to this and assuring the people
Speaker 11: who work in the construction industries, both the employees and
Speaker 11: the employers, that their integrity is something that he holds sacred.
Speaker 11: But it has taken the New South Wales premiere three
Speaker 11: days to formulate a reaction to these allegations. Initially, he
Speaker 11: says that well, the fees paid by the union by
Speaker 11: way of affiliation fees were not really political donations. Today
Speaker 11: they are all of a sudden, But he doesn't want
Speaker 11: to say we'll give back the money we've received since
Speaker 11: two thousand, because that would be impossible to do. Really
Speaker 11: and truly, I think there is a growing demand for
Speaker 11: the benefit of the workers in this industry to have
Speaker 11: a royal commission, because it actually gives assurance that this
Speaker 11: is an industry which will be cleaned up and we
Speaker 11: will put in place measures to ensure that it is
Speaker 11: an industry which is free from corruption.
Speaker 1: You and I have been around a long time.
Speaker 2: The ACTU came out today late this afternoon suspended affiliation
Speaker 2: with the construction arm of the CFMEU. You I can
Speaker 2: only suspect that either the Prime Minister's office or Tony
Speaker 2: Birk's office have been on the phone saying, for goodness sake,
Speaker 2: try and drag us out of this mess, because the
Speaker 2: state premier is initially including Jacinta Allen here and Victoria
Speaker 2: did not want to get involved.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 11: The problem that the ILP has in relation to this
Speaker 11: is that the general perception that who pays the piper
Speaker 11: calls the churn runs absolutely true to this scenario. This
Speaker 11: is a union engaged in corrupt activity building some of
Speaker 11: the most important infrastructure for the state, hopefully dragging us
Speaker 11: through a housing crisis that we need to get through
Speaker 11: and build the cheapest possible housing. If they are part
Speaker 11: of the construction which is renovating the states and delivering
Speaker 11: outcomes to the state, wouldn't you want to know? Wouldn't
Speaker 11: you want to know that that is a union which
Speaker 11: is clean, free of corruption. Deals with the New South
Speaker 11: Wales government are absolutely clean and the only way, the
Speaker 11: only way that you can do that now is twofold
Speaker 11: for the government and the Premier to come out and say,
Speaker 11: we won't have a bar of this. We're going to
Speaker 11: give back all the money we've received since two thousand
Speaker 11: when these allegations first serviced. We're not going to be
Speaker 11: seen to be someone who benefits from tainted money for
Speaker 11: the purposes of getting elected to government. We're not going
Speaker 11: to have any association with this union. But the response
Speaker 11: has been well, we will in fact not take any
Speaker 11: money going forward from this union. Well, I don't know
Speaker 11: what has happened between today and yesterday. Yesterday's money was
Speaker 11: cleaned money. Tomorrow's money is not clean money. It clearly
Speaker 11: is a problem for the Labor government. The Premier, mister
Speaker 11: Menz has got to say I won't have anything to
Speaker 11: do with these people, because the old maximum plies if
Speaker 11: you're lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.
Speaker 1: The state of.
Speaker 2: New South Wales, largely under a government of which you
Speaker 2: were a member, and I talk about the bad, beveragicli
Speaker 2: and Peritate governments, did a remarkable job building huge, huge
Speaker 2: infrastructure projects. I mean we can winge about the tunnel
Speaker 2: tolls and all of that stuff. But do you suspect
Speaker 2: when you look back on that now the construction costs
Speaker 2: of some of those projects would have been highly inflated
Speaker 2: by the wage demand and the contracts were written to
Speaker 2: use CFMEU workers on those projects.
Speaker 11: Well, the answer it clearly is probably the only way
Speaker 11: to really find out the extent to which some of
Speaker 11: those contracts were impacted by CFMEU negotiations could only be
Speaker 11: found out by a Royal commission with wide ranging powers.
Speaker 11: But let me just say this is the New South
Speaker 11: Wilds government has a procurement pipeline of about thirty to
Speaker 11: forty billion dollars a year. It is the largest procurer
Speaker 11: of any corporation or corporate entity in the Southern Hemisphere.
Speaker 1: Now, the extent to.
Speaker 11: Which unions are involved in that procurement process and that
Speaker 11: there is a stiff of corruption around the manner in
Speaker 11: which those tenders are being procured, then we can't be
Speaker 11: satisfied that we're getting the best value for dollar. And
Speaker 11: what happened in Victoria was this, Steve is that.
Speaker 1: For the.
Speaker 11: Big build down there, the certification process to get the
Speaker 11: tenders was dictated by the CFMEU. There is a process
Speaker 11: in New South Wales currently where the government is seeking
Speaker 11: to actually review the procurement process of the New South
Speaker 11: Wales government and guess what, the CFMEU was one of
Speaker 11: the first person to make a submission to that inquiry
Speaker 11: wanting to put in place the Victorian model where they
Speaker 11: would approve the certification process for approved tenders, not only
Speaker 11: for the approved tenders, but for all the subcontractors of
Speaker 11: those tenders. So you have to say there's a real
Speaker 11: problem here and it needs to be sorted out, and
Speaker 11: in many respects that the Premier should come out and
Speaker 11: say we're not going to have that infrastructure which benefits
Speaker 11: the CFMEU or organizations like that in New South Wales.
Speaker 1: Just finally, Damien.
Speaker 2: I criticized at the beginning of the program tonight the
Speaker 2: inaction from Tony Burke based in New South Wales. Anthony Alberezi,
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister. They seem to be wanting the States
Speaker 2: to bear the burden of this, but surely they need
Speaker 2: to take some responsibility. After all, it was Burke who
Speaker 2: shut down the Australian Building and Construction Commission.
Speaker 5: And.
Speaker 11: That is absolutely right because the ABCC acted as a
Speaker 11: vehicle for being able to field complaints. Where do you
Speaker 11: go if you've got a problem with the with the
Speaker 11: union making demands on you and you want to get
Speaker 11: some relief from that. If you can go to the media,
Speaker 11: that's one out, but you should have an organization where
Speaker 11: you can go and lodge a complaint, have it investigated
Speaker 11: and dealt with. That's been dismantled federally by getting rid
Speaker 11: of the ABCC. It's been weakened in New South Wales
Speaker 11: where there was a complaints body, So that there needs
Speaker 11: to be a mechanism where whistleblowers can go. And I
Speaker 11: just said one last thing. The employers in this industry
Speaker 11: are not absolutely free from blame and a Royal Commission
Speaker 11: would expose this as well, because there are plenty of
Speaker 11: Tier one employers who are prepared to get into bed
Speaker 11: with these unions and do the deals with them to
Speaker 11: get these contracts. And can I say they don't do
Speaker 11: the industry any favors, and in fact, they don't do
Speaker 11: the state any favors because it just inflates the cost
Speaker 11: of these contracts in circumstances where we the taxpayers, are
Speaker 11: paying for it. So I'd be saying to the employers,
Speaker 11: you've got to get on board and weed this stuff out.
Speaker 11: The government has got to get on board and actually
Speaker 11: make sure that there is a clean system. And the
Speaker 11: only way that we can know that that's going to
Speaker 11: happen is have a Royal commission into it.
Speaker 2: Well said Damien Tudo. Thanks for your help tonight. Good
Speaker 2: on your thanks to Let's go to the United States now,
Speaker 2: where it's been another pack at the Republican National Convention,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump making another appearance today to a unified party.
Speaker 2: His former rivals Nikki Higley and Ron De santis I
Speaker 2: gave speeches praising the now official candidate for president.
Speaker 12: He listen, if we have four more years of Biby
Speaker 12: or a single day of Harris, our country will be
Speaker 12: badly worse off. For the sake of our nation, we
Speaker 12: have to go with Donald Trump.
Speaker 13: Our enemies do not confine their designs between ten am
Speaker 13: and four pm.
Speaker 1: We need.
Speaker 13: We need a commander in chief who can lead twenty
Speaker 13: four hours a day and seven days a week. America
Speaker 13: cannot afford four more years of a weekend at Bernie's presidency.
Speaker 2: Joining me now is commentator and host of Outkicks, Tommy
Speaker 2: Larin is feelss Tommy larn Day two the RNC, I
Speaker 2: watched the full speech of Ron de Santa San Nikki Highly.
Speaker 2: What do you make of Nikki Highly being back into
Speaker 2: the tent? What do you think Donald Trump would.
Speaker 1: Make of that?
Speaker 14: Well, listen, I think that former President Donald Trump is
Speaker 14: happy to have the party united. We simply cannot win
Speaker 14: if we don't have a united front, a united Republican Party.
Speaker 14: And with all of the primary challenges, with all of
Speaker 14: the issues that we had in the House of Representatives,
Speaker 14: not being able to pick a speaker, I don't think
Speaker 14: many Republicans were confident that we would get to this
Speaker 14: point sitting here in July at this kind of convention,
Speaker 14: being the Party of Unity, and the party that is unified,
Speaker 14: and the party that is loyal, and the party that
Speaker 14: is galvanized around a candidate no one thought that would
Speaker 14: be the Republican Party, but it is the Democrat Party.
Speaker 14: They don't even know which candidate they want at this point.
Speaker 14: There's a lot of infighting, really a mutiny to get
Speaker 14: rid of the top of their ticket. And then over
Speaker 14: on their Republican side, you have to just tonight, you
Speaker 14: have a you have Nikki Haley, you have Governor Ron
Speaker 14: De Santis, all talking about how they endorse and they
Speaker 14: support the candidate President Donald Trump. So I think you
Speaker 14: see an incredible amount of unity on the Republican side,
Speaker 14: and as a Republican, I sure love to see it.
Speaker 2: Do you think the attempted assassination at the weekend, that
Speaker 2: all full event that unfoulded has galvanazed Donald Trump's campaign.
Speaker 14: I think it certainly has. And I'll tell you what,
Speaker 14: just watching former President Trump at the convention for these
Speaker 14: couple of days, I think that there is a notable
Speaker 14: change in his demeanor. I think that he realizes that
Speaker 14: this could have very different and very much so been
Speaker 14: in a very different situation for him, and he could
Speaker 14: have been injured much worse or even died last weekend.
Speaker 14: So I think you see a different demeanor. But I
Speaker 14: also think that you see a party that is ready
Speaker 14: to fight for America, that's ready to unify, not just
Speaker 14: within itself, but ready to unify America. We've realized that
Speaker 14: the other side, which promised us that for three and
Speaker 14: a half years, has failed to do it. So I
Speaker 14: think that you're seeing a reinvigoration of what it means
Speaker 14: means to be a Republican, a conservative, a patriot an American.
Speaker 14: And that's what you're seeing at this convention, with a
Speaker 14: lot of folks being invited to speak that normally wouldn't
Speaker 14: be invited to speak at a Republican convention. I think
Speaker 14: we're breaking down walls and barriers, we're expanding the tent,
Speaker 14: and that all things that vote very well for an
Speaker 14: election in November.
Speaker 2: Look, you could excuse Donald Trump for not turning up
Speaker 2: there until he speaks on Thursday. I think yes that
Speaker 2: I and again today that Trump looked, in my view,
Speaker 2: a little shike and a little bit rattled to me,
Speaker 2: which is understandable when you've missed death by after all,
Speaker 2: a couple of centimats.
Speaker 14: I don't know if he looks rattled to me. I
Speaker 14: think that even you know, seconds after what happened happened,
Speaker 14: he looked very defiant and obviously like the battleborn warrior
Speaker 14: that he is. I think what we're seeing really from
Speaker 14: Donald Trump is he's soaking in the moment. He's understanding
Speaker 14: that he is the nomineeth a Republican Party for the
Speaker 14: third time, that's already a historic accomplishment, but he's also
Speaker 14: realizing and soaking up the moment that this is really
Speaker 14: his time. He's been given a second lease on life,
Speaker 14: and not just because of an assassination attempt, but really
Speaker 14: because of everything that's been hurled at him over the
Speaker 14: last nine years. I mean, he's had to withstand so much,
Speaker 14: including an attack on his life. So I think what
Speaker 14: you're seeing is Donald Trump really being present, soaking up
Speaker 14: the moment, and being grateful for the party and the
Speaker 14: people he has around him this week.
Speaker 2: Look gay, I think you know, lists of people would
Speaker 2: have walked away, and I think it's a credit to
Speaker 2: him that he's not done that. We learned today that
Speaker 2: US intelligence has uncovered a plot by Iran to assassinate
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and that's before what happened on the weekend.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 14: Well, what I think, also beyond this just being really disturbing,
Speaker 14: I also don't think that it should be surprising. He
Speaker 14: was the leader of the free world. He could likely
Speaker 14: be the leader of the free world again in just
Speaker 14: a few months. So the fact that there wasn't more
Speaker 14: protection for him when he's standing in a wide open
Speaker 14: field in the middle of Pennsylvania, and the fact that
Speaker 14: the director of the Secret Service is trying to excuse
Speaker 14: the lack of protection on a sloped roof being unsafe
Speaker 14: for Secret Service agents. I mean, the dereliction of duty
Speaker 14: by the Secret Service and the head of the Secret
Speaker 14: Service to me is astounding, and it's shocking to me
Speaker 14: that she still has her job and still has that position.
Speaker 14: There's a lot of investigating left to do, but just
Speaker 14: looking at the bystander photos and videos here, it's quite
Speaker 14: obvious that this was a giant lapse in security, a
Speaker 14: giant failure, and all presidents and former presidents deserve better
Speaker 14: from the taxpayer funded Secret Service.
Speaker 2: Given that excuse, which I still can't believe about a
Speaker 2: sloped roof, Tommy, I mean, goodness me, you could have
Speaker 2: no event out in the open ever again if there's
Speaker 2: a sloping roof, because a sniper wouldn't be able to
Speaker 2: get on top of it.
Speaker 1: It's just crazy stuff.
Speaker 14: It's crazy, it's a ridiculous excuse. I think that there
Speaker 14: are a lot of former military members, special operators, even
Speaker 14: those in law enforcement that would be happy to protect
Speaker 14: and guard the former president in a much better way,
Speaker 14: in a much more secure way than he received over
Speaker 14: the weekend. And I think we're going to see a
Speaker 14: lot more coming out, at least I hope that we do.
Speaker 14: I hope we get a transparent investigation about exactly what
Speaker 14: went wrong and who really is to blame. I believe
Speaker 14: that the head of the Secret Service should resign, but
Speaker 14: beyond that, there's a lot of failures along the road
Speaker 14: there and along the way. It should have never been
Speaker 14: allowed to happen this way, and I hope this was
Speaker 14: a giant wake up call to those that are pushing
Speaker 14: DEI initiatives or other woke garbage. That's securing the president,
Speaker 14: former president, and any elected official, any American that deserves
Speaker 14: that protection needs to be put first and foremost, and
Speaker 14: not people's feelings of what job they think they should
Speaker 14: attain or how diverse the forces. The fact that that's
Speaker 14: even been a conversation in the last several years, to me,
Speaker 14: is an embarrassment as an American?
Speaker 2: What expecting the tone of the speech from Donald Trump
Speaker 2: that who are going to get on Thursday.
Speaker 14: We've heard reports that he's actually rewritten the speech after
Speaker 14: what happened over the weekend, after the assassination attempt. So
Speaker 14: I think what you probably would have heard is Donald
Speaker 14: Trump the fighter, Donald Trump going after the record and
Speaker 14: the poor legacy of current President Joe Biden. But I
Speaker 14: think what you're going to hear in this speech is
Speaker 14: much more of a unified tone. I think he's going
Speaker 14: to talk about the failures of the administration, but I
Speaker 14: think he really is going to attempt to unify all
Speaker 14: Americans and show them that he is not this boogey
Speaker 14: man that he's been made out to be, that he's
Speaker 14: a living, breathing human being. They've tried to dehumanize him
Speaker 14: over the last several years, and I think he's going
Speaker 14: to show the world and especially the American public, that
Speaker 14: he is the leader for all Americans, not just Republicans.
Speaker 14: And that's what I expect from that speech on Thursday night.
Speaker 2: Just fondly, I mean Jack Black and his band Tonicius
Speaker 2: d made a terrible mistake here in Sydney, where the
Speaker 2: stupid guitarist said, don't miss Trump next time. Look, they've
Speaker 2: apologized Ivan not the two has been canceled. God, I
Speaker 2: believe the apology. I mean, with they the same a
Speaker 2: piece of some Joe Biden fundraiser recently.
Speaker 14: Exactly, Yeah, Jack Blocke at that fundraiser, when George Clooney,
Speaker 14: Jack Black and everybody in attendance saw our current president
Speaker 14: cognitively failing and refuse to say anything. That's a whole
Speaker 14: separate issue. But I don't buy the apology either. I'm
Speaker 14: not somebody that's for cancel culture, but when you have
Speaker 14: somebody that goes on stage with that kind of an
Speaker 14: audience so soon after a former president's life was literally
Speaker 14: centimeters from being taken and you make that kind of
Speaker 14: a joke, I don't buy the apology. I don't believe
Speaker 14: in cancel culture, but I do believe that there needs
Speaker 14: to be some repercussions for that kind of talk. It's
Speaker 14: one thing to have freedom of speech, which we love
Speaker 14: here in America. It's another thing to celebrate the attack
Speaker 14: on a former president, on any president, on any official,
Speaker 14: on any human being. So I find that reprehensible and disgusting.
Speaker 14: But I don't expect much else from the Hollywood and
Speaker 14: the celebrity elite. Unfortunately, this is part for the course.
Speaker 1: Tommy, thanks very much for joining us.
Speaker 14: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 5: God bless.
Speaker 1: That convention continues tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Looks so forward to the jd vance speech, which you're
Speaker 2: going to see coming up, off to the what's the
Speaker 2: Secret Services Director's b excuse on that Trump assassination attempt
Speaker 2: a sloped roof? It's possibly the most bizarre explanation I've
Speaker 2: ever heard. You don't want to miss that explanation. Plus,
Speaker 2: forget Peter Dutton and now Anthony Albanesi's biggest election threat,
Speaker 2: it's now Adam Band calling himself Robin Hood.
Speaker 1: Welcome back.
Speaker 2: Steve Price with you, James Morrow coming up filling in
Speaker 2: for Paul Murray after me, the panel in the sect. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm no fan of cancel culture. It's not my thing,
Speaker 2: but today it seems pretty well fair enough. Tenacious D,
Speaker 2: which is something I'd never heard of, was a comedy
Speaker 2: rock duo. I think I have interviewed Jack Black before
Speaker 2: on the project. They've canceled their Australian tour altogether, including
Speaker 2: a Newcastle concert tonight and there's calls for them to
Speaker 2: be deported, which I think is a bit tough over
Speaker 2: a reprehensible joke made on stage about the attempted assassination
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Have a look at what happened there came with Trump
Speaker 1: next time.
Speaker 2: Stupid stuff, And I never thought i'd say these words.
Speaker 2: I think I'm on a unity ticket note with Kevin.
Speaker 2: I can't say that with Kevin run. But that is sick.
Speaker 2: You can even hear the audience. I'm in the audience
Speaker 2: doing joining me now our panel tonight National Senate of
Speaker 2: Matt Canavanah was great to see him and Sky News
Speaker 2: contributor Joe Hildebrand. Joe, you strike me as a Jack
Speaker 2: Black fan.
Speaker 15: Well, I'm certainly a fan of free speech and no
Speaker 15: fan of cancel culture. But look, there's always been a
Speaker 15: line with free speech, and that is incitement to violence.
Speaker 15: And while the joke was obviously not a literal intent
Speaker 15: to go and murder Donald Trump, at least I hope
Speaker 15: not by putting it out there that this is something
Speaker 15: that you should do that would make you wildly popular
Speaker 15: if you did it, Because of course, the crowd explodes
Speaker 15: into spontaneous cheers when it's suggested. You know, that is
Speaker 15: a dangerous type of talk, and I think what it
Speaker 15: really suggests is that the person knew that they could
Speaker 15: say it and get that rousing. I mean, it's lazy
Speaker 15: comedy because you know that everyone's just going to laugh
Speaker 15: or cheer because they agree with your politics, not because
Speaker 15: the joke's particularly funny, But it just speaks to the
Speaker 15: fact that there's a clear blind spot among people who
Speaker 15: don't realize that. You know, they accuse everyone else of
Speaker 15: hate speech all the time, but then think it's funny
Speaker 15: to literally call for someone to be murdered, to be assassinated,
Speaker 15: and that's kind of cool because as long as it's
Speaker 15: the right wing, it doesn't count. So it's a terrible
Speaker 15: blind spot on the left, and it's a large part
Speaker 15: of the reason why Donald Trump is so popular.
Speaker 2: Mat It just goes to that whole argument about entertainment
Speaker 2: elites who are all of the left and hate Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: They want to have Joe Biden back in in the
Speaker 2: White House. The same thing happens here. We get actors
Speaker 2: and actresses talking about politics that we don't really need
Speaker 2: to hear from.
Speaker 16: Yeah, well, look, I don't really care too much what
Speaker 16: Jack Plack or Tenacious D he's been. I don't know
Speaker 16: who the other guy is who's made these comments. Look,
Speaker 16: I think it's appropriate the tour has ended over this.
Speaker 16: It's big enough to do that. What I'm more concerned about, though,
Speaker 16: is that these people are just silly enough to give
Speaker 16: voice to their opinions that, in effect they would like
Speaker 16: to see somebody assassinated. I'm a lot more concerned that
Speaker 16: the smarter people on that side of politics, who similarly
Speaker 16: might share those views.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen.
Speaker 16: Senior Democratic politicians in the US engage in incredibly dehumanizing
Speaker 16: language towards former President Trump. And if you did seriously
Speaker 16: believe that Donald Trump is Hitler, which many of them
Speaker 16: have said, then you probably would be considering things like
Speaker 16: trying to kill him as people did to Hitler at
Speaker 16: the time. And that's what's really concerning here. People have
Speaker 16: got so many questions about what happened on the weekend.
Speaker 1: Man, I want to get your view on development.
Speaker 2: Today, Andrew Forrest's fortes Q Mining company announce they're slashing
Speaker 2: seven hundred jobs and affirming its resolute commitment to green
Speaker 2: technology vision. But they've also made the point that the
Speaker 2: green hydrogen that they think they're going to produce is
Speaker 2: still a hell of a long way away.
Speaker 16: Well, I'm glad that Twiggy is coming back to the
Speaker 16: land of common sense seemingly. I don't know all the
Speaker 16: details of this announcement yet, but it's been clear for
Speaker 16: a long time that hydrogen has a long time to go.
Speaker 16: I mean, the old joke is that hydrogen's great, it's
Speaker 16: only twenty years you know, it's twenty years away. It's
Speaker 16: just always been twenty years away. Now, look, I'm hopeful.
Speaker 16: I'm hopeful we can crack something with hydro in the future.
Speaker 16: But the key message of the decision of Fortsque today
Speaker 16: is that we shouldn't be risking our entire economy, our
Speaker 16: productive parts of our economy, like the coal mining sector,
Speaker 16: on a risky gamble. That's what hydrogen is ultimately risky gamble,
Speaker 16: and the Albanezy government here is hitching our future energy
Speaker 16: security to a risky gamble. It's why we should be
Speaker 16: producing energy from all different types, including coal, including gas,
Speaker 16: including nuclear and yes, some renewables as well. We should
Speaker 16: not put all our eggs in one basket.
Speaker 2: Well, said Joe Adam bans Gift that keeps giving. He
Speaker 2: gave me today to write for Friday. He's likened himself
Speaker 2: to Robin Hood.
Speaker 15: Well they both wear green, so you know, look, this
Speaker 15: is again just another sign. This is not the first
Speaker 15: time the Greens have declared their intent to basically like
Speaker 15: Cuckoo's in the Nest, to hollow out, to cannibalize the
Speaker 15: Labor Party and then to kill it. And yet there
Speaker 15: are still some on the left who seem to think
Speaker 15: that they're this sort of benign force.
Speaker 1: They're not.
Speaker 15: They're nasty, radical Bolsheviks. And just like the Bolsheviks, their
Speaker 15: true enemy isn't the right. It's not conservatives, it's moderates.
Speaker 15: It's the people on their own side who they think
Speaker 15: are not stream enough. So Adam bans gone out. He's
Speaker 15: cast himself his cast Labor as, accused Labor of being
Speaker 15: a part of the center right, which I'm sure will
Speaker 15: surprise many viewers of this show, and basically said that
Speaker 15: he wants to he wants to overtake them, take them over.
Speaker 15: He's targeting ten seats at the next federal election. Eight
Speaker 15: of them are Labor, only two of them are Liberal,
Speaker 15: So again, these are left. He's not interested in fighting conservatives.
Speaker 15: They want to fight people in the center. They want
Speaker 15: to fight moderates and Matthew Chandler Mayther meanwhile has given
Speaker 15: an interview to The Daily Mail where he's apparently prod
Speaker 15: have provided framework where he could be Prime Minister in
Speaker 15: twenty forty, or at least that's the numbers that they've obtained.
Speaker 15: So they seem to be working on the back of
Speaker 15: a beer coaster which will give them government in twenty forty.
Speaker 1: It won't happen.
Speaker 2: The problem is they want to send us all back
Speaker 2: to the Nottingham Forest. Matt Tenavan and Joe Hildebrand, thank
Speaker 2: you very much for joining us tonight after the break.
Speaker 2: Remember Prime Minister Abenese's promised to return immigration to quote
Speaker 2: sustainable levels.
Speaker 1: So much for that.
Speaker 2: We learned today Australia is adding a new migrant every
Speaker 2: single minute of every day. We'll unpack the numbers next.
Speaker 1: Welcome back. I've always said.
Speaker 2: Immigration is in the top three of issues when we
Speaker 2: get to a federal election. There was some doubt data
Speaker 2: out today from the Australian Bureau of Stats. It's been
Speaker 2: analyzed by the Institute of Public Affairs and this is
Speaker 2: what stood out Australia is adding a new migrant to
Speaker 2: our country every single minute. Joining me now to dissect
Speaker 2: those figures is Saxon Davidson, research fellow at the IPA.
Speaker 2: That figure really whacked me between the eyes today.
Speaker 1: How did you arrive at that?
Speaker 10: Well, we analyze the stats that came out from the
Speaker 10: ABS and then analyze that from the most recent financial
Speaker 10: year and basically compared that to the government's promise at
Speaker 10: the last budget. Now, the government has already over the
Speaker 10: promise that they made at the last budget by almost
Speaker 10: fifty thousand new migrants, and this is before an extra
Speaker 10: month during this year has been collected.
Speaker 1: The government.
Speaker 10: Simply this promise from the government is simply not worth
Speaker 10: the paper that it was written on, and it shows
Speaker 10: they have truly no desire to turn off the tap
Speaker 10: and to let the supply of housing catch up with migrants.
Speaker 2: And I think that that statistic or those numbers from
Speaker 2: the Bureau didn't even include the last month of migrants.
Speaker 2: They've still got to be added in, don't they, Saxon.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely they do.
Speaker 10: And so far it could get worse, but so far
Speaker 10: it's currently a migrant permanent. That means for every minute
Speaker 10: you're spending inspecting a new property or even waiting to
Speaker 10: inspect a new property apartment or house, a new net
Speaker 10: migrant is being added who will also need property to
Speaker 10: live in. Currently, the supply of housing is just not
Speaker 10: catching up to migrants. The only policy lever available to
Speaker 10: the federal government considering housing is migration, and it's a
Speaker 10: popular lever to pull. Sixty percent of Australians want net
Speaker 10: migration pause not just lower, but paused for the supply
Speaker 10: of housing to catch up. According to IPA polling.
Speaker 2: I reckon cost of living energy costs included in that
Speaker 2: and the migration question plus the overall green energy argument
Speaker 2: are the three big issues for the election campaign. I
Speaker 2: reckon the case on immigration, especially on research like yours,
Speaker 2: is only going to grow.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 10: And what this increase of migration has also shown when
Speaker 10: you look at economic data is that the reason the
Speaker 10: government has no desire to stop migration is because their
Speaker 10: entire economic plan is reliant on the growth of population.
Speaker 1: Figures.
Speaker 10: Eighty five percent of our current economic growth is attributed
Speaker 10: to the growth and population. When you compare that to
Speaker 10: when we had proper productivity driven prime ministers such as
Speaker 10: Keating and Hawk and John Howard. In the nineties it
Speaker 10: was as low as one third. It actually just lays
Speaker 10: out to the lack of economic plans zaccon It just
Speaker 10: that the government has.
Speaker 2: It says to me absolutely, it says to me that
Speaker 2: they're not serious about it. Thank you very much for
Speaker 2: joining us and coming up next. James Morrow is filling
Speaker 2: in for Paul Murray. I'll be back tomorrow