Speaker 1: Lately, gentleman, welcome the late base.
Speaker 2: Good evening.
Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson, with Liz Staer and Joe Hildebrandt coming
Speaker 3: up tonight.
Speaker 2: Katy Perry might prefer.
Speaker 3: To be back in out of space after the reception
Speaker 3: she's getting on her latest concert tour.
Speaker 2: We'll show you why a little later.
Speaker 3: Plus when we look at the papers homeless people set
Speaker 3: to be issued massive fines for sleeping outdoors, and how
Speaker 3: authorities ignored warnings that might have stopped the BONDI stabber
Speaker 3: all of that a little later, but first, TLMP Minick
Speaker 3: Ryan is pleading for extra donations to help her retain
Speaker 3: the seat of Couyong she won from the Liberals in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. She sent an email to backs literally
Speaker 3: pleading for donations and complaining, have listened to this. We've
Speaker 3: seen a scale of attacks I never thought possible, coordinated,
Speaker 3: well funded, and designed to mislead voters in the final stretch.
Speaker 3: These attacks aren't just coming from the Liberal party, They're
Speaker 3: coming from a power for conservative ecosystem. All the irony
Speaker 3: of this, I mean, Monique Ryan complains she's the victim
Speaker 3: of a coordinated, wealth funded attack. When everybody knows the
Speaker 3: Teals themselves are a coordinated, well funded attack on the
Speaker 3: Liberal Party, except the Teals lie about.
Speaker 2: It, claiming to be independent.
Speaker 3: They are of course bankrolled by Simon Holmes the courts
Speaker 3: Climate two hundred, although Manique Ryan pretends she's got no
Speaker 3: idea where her money comes from.
Speaker 4: Who is your biggest financial backer for this federal election?
Speaker 5: I've had more than two thousand diners in this federal
Speaker 5: election to this point, Climate two hundred has provided less
Speaker 5: than twenty percent of the support that I've received.
Speaker 6: Is Climate two hundred your biggest financial backer.
Speaker 5: At this point? That we've had in kind and specific
Speaker 5: donations from Climate two hundred, I'd have to check.
Speaker 7: So in dollars and cents in financial terms, is Climate
Speaker 7: two hundred your biggest backer at this election?
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be able to say that at this point.
Speaker 3: In time, she would know exactly where her funding is
Speaker 3: coming from. But of course she's not the only TiAl
Speaker 3: desperate for money. Homes of Court has emailed back as
Speaker 3: saying if people don't donate more cash, Manick Ryan, Zoe Daniel,
Speaker 3: Sophie Scramps, and Kate Cheney all could lose their seats.
Speaker 3: My encouragement Liz and Joe to potential donors would be
Speaker 3: to give to the Teals exactly what they've given their constituents,
Speaker 3: which would be absolutely nothing.
Speaker 6: Well, they don't need it because they're so very very rich, James,
Speaker 6: So it's okay, they don't need anything. All they need
Speaker 6: is to be able to sleep well at night knowing
Speaker 6: that their dreams of integrity and climate climate purity in
Speaker 6: the year twenty twenty fifty and transparency very important as well.
Speaker 6: Thank you for reminding me, Liz that all these values
Speaker 6: that they hold so dear, and they can afford to
Speaker 6: hold so dear because they don't have to afford anything
Speaker 6: else which everyone else in the country has to deal with, like,
Speaker 6: for example, putting food on the table. They can afford
Speaker 6: to worry about things happening in twenty thirty five or
Speaker 6: twenty fifty, and they can afford to worry about whether
Speaker 6: the politics of Australia is as pure as they would like.
Speaker 1: It to be.
Speaker 6: And that's why I am so pleased that when it
Speaker 6: comes to matters of integrity and transparency, the proto Teal
Speaker 6: the Captain America of Teals, Monique Ryan, the Teal who
Speaker 6: took down, Josh Friedenberg is addressing, without fear or favor,
Speaker 6: the most fundamental question when it comes to the honesty
Speaker 6: and integrity and transparency of any accountable government in the
Speaker 6: Western nation, or indeed the entire world, which is where's
Speaker 6: the money coming from, Who's paying for you, who's doing.
Speaker 1: Are you who's bidding? Are you doing?
Speaker 6: It is unfathomable that is both so completely and shamelessly
Speaker 6: hypocritical as to not ann a very basic question about
Speaker 6: just who her biggest donor is, when clearly she would know,
Speaker 6: but also that she is so bad at politics that
Speaker 6: she wouldn't be able to have an answer to this,
Speaker 6: And just like she is so incredibly bad at politics
Speaker 6: that when one young Sky News reporter puts the microphone
Speaker 6: and ask her a few questions in her own electorate
Speaker 6: on her home turf, she can't even handle that. And
Speaker 6: she literally has to sort of say no, no, no,
Speaker 6: just go away, leave me alone, Leave me alone. When
Speaker 6: the slightest amount of scrutiny is applied to these people,
Speaker 6: they fall apart like a house of cards. And I
Speaker 6: think I can say on behalf of the nation, it
Speaker 6: is just so wonderful to watch. I'm just enjoying it
Speaker 6: so much, so just keep going. Even if we get
Speaker 6: back in we get another three years of this, i'mhappy.
Speaker 1: So either way, just please keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 6: Keep pontificating about how everyone else is corrupt or everyone
Speaker 6: else doesn't actually stick to their principles, and we need
Speaker 6: a national integrity Commission and you're the on ones pure enough,
Speaker 6: while you're refusing to say where the money comes from,
Speaker 6: while you're tearing down, or your husband is your opponents
Speaker 6: democratically sanctioned of core flutes, while you are treating your
Speaker 6: own staff appallingly to the point where they actually take
Speaker 6: it a court to get a sally rug. You know what, again,
Speaker 6: one of the nicest people you could ever happen to
Speaker 6: meet combined with one of the other nicest people you
Speaker 6: could ever happen to meet. It isn't it lovely when
Speaker 6: these progressives who talk about how nice we should all
Speaker 6: be get together and it turns out they are the
Speaker 6: most toxic binary combination known to chemistry.
Speaker 1: It is just glorious.
Speaker 6: So just please don't give up. Whatever you do, don't
Speaker 6: give up, stay in politics, keep going because.
Speaker 1: This country needs you.
Speaker 6: This country needs to laugh right now and you are
Speaker 6: providing that country.
Speaker 7: Humany for your national service. I don't know you know
Speaker 7: who needs to hear this, but you're not independent if
Speaker 7: you're funded by climate two hundred. End of discussion. Also,
Speaker 7: why the last minute cash grab? What on earth are
Speaker 7: people going to spend this cash grab money on?
Speaker 8: This late in the game. Over two point four million
Speaker 8: Aussies have already voted.
Speaker 7: Goodness knows how many will be left by the time
Speaker 7: the polls actually open. Everyone wants this over and done with.
Speaker 7: Everyone is sick of the campaign. So what are you
Speaker 7: going to buy?
Speaker 8: More core flutes?
Speaker 7: Were as sick of your faces as we are of
Speaker 7: your policies.
Speaker 2: What are you going to buy more ads.
Speaker 8: That just pierce everyone off?
Speaker 7: Everyone is utterly sick and tired of this campaign already,
Speaker 7: and speaking of ads that just pave people no end,
Speaker 7: I bet you're one of them who has received these
Speaker 7: texts from Trumpets of Patriots. I was at home on Saturday,
Speaker 7: minding my own business when I received a text from
Speaker 7: Trumpet of Patriots. I bet this is a familiar story
Speaker 7: if you're watching tonight. Of course, the first question is
Speaker 7: where'd you get my number from? What kind of invasion
Speaker 7: of privacy is this I don't remember signing up to
Speaker 7: Trumpets a Patriots and giving them my mobile number.
Speaker 8: No you didn't.
Speaker 7: They must have bought it from somewhere with the tens
Speaker 7: of millions of dollars that they have spent on campaigning.
Speaker 7: But today, the Electoral Commission was very quick to point out,
Speaker 7: given how many complaints they'd received, that Trumpets of Patriots
Speaker 7: was in fact doing nothing illegal.
Speaker 8: Check this out. They say.
Speaker 7: Political parties are exempt from the Spam Act and the
Speaker 7: Privacy Act and are able to send unsolicited text messages
Speaker 7: without an.
Speaker 8: Opt out option.
Speaker 7: So there was no opt in option and there's no
Speaker 7: opt out option. So basically you've just got to suck
Speaker 7: it up, Aussies. The Electoral Commission goes on to say
Speaker 7: any changes to these laws would be a matter for
Speaker 7: the Parliament to consider. Here's another one of those texts.
Speaker 7: Solve housing fast trains twenty minutes CBD super four deposits
Speaker 7: three percent interest, cut immigration by eighty percent.
Speaker 8: They're really fitting a lot in new Is that easy?
Speaker 1: That's right there?
Speaker 6: That solved all the nation's problems in a single text message. Rich,
Speaker 6: there is vote.
Speaker 2: Trumper of Patriots.
Speaker 7: But seriously, I think this is another one of those
Speaker 7: campaign ideas that just backlashes spectacularly because people get text
Speaker 7: after text just days apart, and they're just pissed off.
Speaker 8: They're actually less likely to vote for you.
Speaker 3: Part of the irony is that Trumpet of Patriots are
Speaker 3: campaigning for less government in our lives, and yet we're
Speaker 3: swamped on our.
Speaker 2: Mobile phones by the messages.
Speaker 3: They're also a campaigning, of course, for freedom, which I
Speaker 3: would absolutely support, but you don't have the freedom to
Speaker 3: opt out of their text messages like many other Australians.
Speaker 3: I got them and I'm not that bothered by it,
Speaker 3: but I just get sick of them popping up on
Speaker 3: my phone, so I deleted the first couple. Then I
Speaker 3: blocked the number, But even blocking number it didn't stop me.
Speaker 6: I feel really left out. Am I the only person
Speaker 6: in Australia who hasn't got one of these text? I
Speaker 6: want to I've got some here off for but this
Speaker 6: is the thing there. So the short answer is they
Speaker 6: didn't get your number. Trumpet of Patriots does not have
Speaker 6: your number. All Trumpet of Patriots has is a random
Speaker 6: number generator where with enough money behind it, it just
Speaker 6: bombards these messages to every single possible phone number combination
Speaker 6: in the world, and some land and some don't. And
Speaker 6: an example, a really good example, is that my wife
Speaker 6: is one of the people who received one of these
Speaker 6: text messages, and she does comms for a Quality Australia,
Speaker 6: which was running the campaign against Trumpet of Patriots being
Speaker 6: able to put ads on the front pages of newspapers
Speaker 6: saying there are only two genders, right, So whatever you
Speaker 6: think on that issue, and I don't care.
Speaker 1: Obviously she is.
Speaker 6: Not a target voter for them. She is not part
Speaker 6: of their target demographic.
Speaker 2: It would be like money not well spent.
Speaker 6: It would be like it would be like labor targeting
Speaker 6: Peter Dutton and saying have you thought about a vote
Speaker 6: for Anthony Albaneze in this election? So it's just what
Speaker 6: happens when it shows you've got more money than God.
Speaker 6: I say, bring it on, because all of us here
Speaker 6: in the media, we love your advertising dollars, Trumpet of Patriots,
Speaker 6: so please continue to blow that trumpet and blow it
Speaker 6: loud and proud.
Speaker 3: So it's not a matter of whether it's right or wrong.
Speaker 3: Really a question is is it beneficial or is it
Speaker 3: just a waste of time and money?
Speaker 6: For it's very beneficial to us, James, although not I
Speaker 6: don't think, because of course they've got more ads than
Speaker 6: anyone else, and I think they're sitting about what one
Speaker 6: or two percent at the moment.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll find out whether their investment pays off on Saturday.
Speaker 3: I suppose let's stay with election matters because Anthony Elminizi
Speaker 3: is tying himself in all kinds of knots over security issues.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: His problems with security have been going for quite some time.
Speaker 3: You'll remember, well the Chinese warships off the coast of
Speaker 3: Sydney firing live rounds and the government finding out via
Speaker 3: a Virgin commercial pilot. Then was another Chinese vessel off
Speaker 3: the coast of South Australia, this time a surveillance ship
Speaker 3: tracking the ocean floor for what could only be described
Speaker 3: as nefarious purposes.
Speaker 2: At the Albanese's response to.
Speaker 3: That was that well, he would rather they weren't doing it,
Speaker 3: which is not exactly standing up for our national security.
Speaker 3: And then, of course there were reports in Jane Military
Speaker 3: Journal just a couple of weeks ago that the Russians
Speaker 3: had asked for an air base in Indonesia, which of
Speaker 3: course would be a massive problem for Australia. Now, when
Speaker 3: the Coalition raised this and started asking questions, the Labor
Speaker 3: Party said it wasn't true, it was a fabrication. Senator
Speaker 3: Murray what went as far as saying the whole thing
Speaker 3: was just some crazy conspiracy theory.
Speaker 9: The Opposition is asking for a briefing on something that
Speaker 9: doesn't exist. I mean they might as well ask for
Speaker 9: a briefing on the Lockness monster. This is something that
Speaker 9: doesn't exist that they fabricated.
Speaker 3: Except now we find out the Lockness Monster is real.
Speaker 2: It did exist. It was not a fabrication.
Speaker 3: Back in February, the Russians did ask the Indonesians for
Speaker 3: the ability to use their air bases and possibly Jane
Speaker 3: magazine is reporting for a permanent base. And it turns
Speaker 3: out the Prime Minister knew about this as early as March.
Speaker 3: So he's been caught lying again and worse, playing politics
Speaker 3: with national security. Here's Anthony Albanesi ducking and weaving again today.
Speaker 6: In March, were you told about the Russian request for
Speaker 6: air base success in Indonesia?
Speaker 10: Well, look, I don't go through again. I refer to
Speaker 10: my previous answer. What adults do on intelligence is received
Speaker 10: them and not do it conduct it through the media.
Speaker 2: What we know but the wants of transparency. What we
Speaker 2: know is.
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, but adults, adults when it comes to intelligence,
Speaker 10: act like adults.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but adults. Adults don't say lock best.
Speaker 3: Monster about true and factual reports our national security under
Speaker 3: the Albanezi government, Liz is an absolute joke.
Speaker 2: And the only people that.
Speaker 3: Are laughing about the Chinese, the Russians and everybody else
Speaker 3: who wishes Australia harm.
Speaker 7: It's another labor life they're looking at, Joe. For two weeks,
Speaker 7: labor ministers have pussy footed around this issue. They've gas
Speaker 7: lit everyone, making it out that this was just this
Speaker 7: was made up, it was a lot ness and wants
Speaker 7: to it was mythical, it never happened. And now they've
Speaker 7: got egg all over their faces in the middle of
Speaker 7: a campaign, just a week out to polling day. It's
Speaker 7: how is this nothing but a massive embarrassment?
Speaker 1: Joe. I'm very glad you asked.
Speaker 6: I actually wrote our election rap or election analysis on
Speaker 6: this today and I've coined the term and you'll enjoy
Speaker 6: this tactical obfuscation.
Speaker 1: So it's not a lie.
Speaker 6: It's tactical obfuscation, but it is actually very very important.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 6: There's George Costanzas said, but they don't believe it because
Speaker 6: they're not. Actually, so, when you say they are calling
Speaker 6: all this stuff that's come out today the locknest monster,
Speaker 6: if you go back and look at what they actually said,
Speaker 6: they're not.
Speaker 1: They want you to think that, but they're not.
Speaker 8: So what said it was fabricated?
Speaker 6: No no, they said there would no no, no, no,
Speaker 6: what was fabricated?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's right.
Speaker 6: The idea that there would be a Russian base, or
Speaker 6: that Russians would be using an Indonesian base that they
Speaker 6: said was fabricated. Of course, that's not what the question was.
Speaker 6: The question was always was there a request? But they
Speaker 6: don't answer the question was there a request? They answer
Speaker 6: was there was there a plan? Is it going to happen?
Speaker 6: And so you will see time and again and all
Speaker 6: these exchanges says was there a request for this other thing?
Speaker 6: There are absolutely no plans for a Russian air base
Speaker 6: anywhere on Indonesian soil, And so it sounds like they're
Speaker 6: answering that question, but they're not. They're answering a different question.
Speaker 6: And that is the first law of politics. Which is
Speaker 6: you always answer the question you want to be asked,
Speaker 6: not the question you actually are asked.
Speaker 1: And so then it creates the.
Speaker 6: Impression that even the speculation or the reports of the
Speaker 6: request must also be bunkom. And that is why when
Speaker 6: Murray what, Murray what? Was kind of the exception that
Speaker 6: proved the rule, because in just one instance he deviated
Speaker 6: from what was a very carefully worded script that there
Speaker 6: are no plans, you know, there is no approvals, that
Speaker 6: it's not going ahead, and Murray what, just in one
Speaker 6: little tiny slip, said there's no proposal, And in fact
Speaker 6: that is the one thing that there is, because of
Speaker 6: course the proposal came from the Russians in the form
Speaker 6: of this request. And that's when you saw the opposition
Speaker 6: jump all over it. See now he's lying.
Speaker 1: Now he's lying. Now he's lying.
Speaker 6: But because there was already so much kind of confusion
Speaker 6: and noise about it, and because Peter Dutton had gotten
Speaker 6: a bit of trouble as well by saying the Indonesian
Speaker 6: president had said something, when he said absolutely nothing, suddenly
Speaker 6: it all just got too confusing. And that is kind
Speaker 6: of what the government wants you to do. They want
Speaker 6: you to think that the request for the base, which
Speaker 6: is worrying, and the base not going ahead, which is
Speaker 6: not as worrying, are the same thing, and therefore that
Speaker 6: none of it is happening. In truth, the first thing
Speaker 6: is happening, the second thing is not.
Speaker 2: So you're saying they didn't lie technic.
Speaker 6: That's right, they didn't lie. They didn't lie, they just
Speaker 6: didn't tell the whole truth.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 8: Well, it certainly doesn't look like that at this point.
Speaker 1: That's the whole point.
Speaker 6: Well if that's the whole point of tactical obfuscation, well.
Speaker 7: If it just means after tactical obfuscation is then blown
Speaker 7: out of the water by the truth, the problem, then
Speaker 7: it looks like you lied. It doesn't look like tactical obfuscation.
Speaker 8: It looks like you lied for two weeks solid.
Speaker 3: And the problem with tactical obfuscation is it's not to
Speaker 3: protect the national interest, it's to protect the labor parties.
Speaker 8: Well, they don't want to deal with that, right now,
Speaker 8: you don't.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's a fair point that you don't reveal
Speaker 6: intelligence matters. I mean, the very definition of covert intelligence
Speaker 6: is that it's COVID ended up.
Speaker 3: Talking about it for two weeks because they can't give
Speaker 3: a straight answer, so they.
Speaker 2: Just address it.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 6: I think the government, what the government wanted to do
Speaker 6: was to reassure Australians that this was not going to happen,
Speaker 6: to look like they were across it, and it was
Speaker 6: all you think.
Speaker 3: We were reassured. And do you think they looked like
Speaker 3: they were across it?
Speaker 6: I think I don't think. No, I think they were
Speaker 6: across it. I know they were across it. But the
Speaker 6: but you just cannot kind of you cannot have like
Speaker 6: Elbow is right in saying you cannot just have these
Speaker 6: kind of debates about who got intelligence, when and where
Speaker 6: and how long ago. You cannot carry them out in
Speaker 6: the media. I can't think of any any government that
Speaker 6: has willingly gobm is.
Speaker 3: We just don't trust the urbanizy government sell us the
Speaker 3: truth on pretty much anything, whether it's your power bills,
Speaker 3: whether it's ships off the coast of Sydney, a surveillance
Speaker 3: ship off the coast of South Australia. If a hot
Speaker 3: air balloon was to fly across Australia slowly, we wouldn't
Speaker 3: believe air belief is he any more than we would believe.
Speaker 6: I will can say that he did fall off the
Speaker 6: stage well.
Speaker 7: In a very disturbing story out of camera, we learned
Speaker 7: today that a twenty three year old male sicko has
Speaker 7: put together one hundred images depicting sixteen different women, some
Speaker 7: in very high serving public service roles in Canbra. He's
Speaker 7: put together one hundred images of them depicted nude. These,
Speaker 7: of course are deep fates. He's used AI to put
Speaker 7: them together.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 7: Police looked into this after one of the women depicted
Speaker 7: saw an image on this man's phone.
Speaker 8: You wonder how that happened.
Speaker 7: We don't know the details, but somehow she was made
Speaker 7: aware that.
Speaker 8: This man had these images on his phone.
Speaker 7: The police looked into it and, to everyone's absolute decis gus,
Speaker 7: because of a loophole in the law, his creating them
Speaker 7: isn't able to be prosecuted because he hasn't shared them
Speaker 7: and didn't have any intent to share them.
Speaker 8: We read today.
Speaker 7: An ACT police spokesman confirmed police had investigated the incident,
Speaker 7: saying that no charges could be laid as there was
Speaker 7: quote no evidence to support the distribution or threat of
Speaker 7: distribution of the images. So basically, this guy has made
Speaker 7: them for his own uses. I guess we're supposed to
Speaker 7: take his word for it that they're not going anywhere,
Speaker 7: they're just for his personal We'll leave that to the imagination.
Speaker 8: And this, of course has created.
Speaker 7: This newfound appreciation for the fact that the laws need
Speaker 7: to change.
Speaker 8: So it's okay to create them.
Speaker 7: We're supposed to understand, as long as you don't distribute them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, except in Victoria.
Speaker 3: In Victoria to create fake images of people naked without
Speaker 3: their consent. But in the rest of Australia you can
Speaker 3: create them, you just can't circulate them. Here's New South
Speaker 3: Wales Premier Chris Men's saying the law needs to be changed.
Speaker 4: Everybody's got a right to go to work or be
Speaker 4: part of a community free from that kind of pilification
Speaker 4: or even objectification. So I think the laws have got
Speaker 4: to keep pace with technology. My simple and short messages,
Speaker 4: the laws aren't keeping pace with technology at the moment,
Speaker 4: and we're going to act to keep people safe.
Speaker 3: This is the sort of thing that e Safety Commissioner
Speaker 3: should be all over because it's quite outrageous that someone
Speaker 3: can do that with somebody's image. As you said, sixteen
Speaker 3: women all working high up in the public service in
Speaker 3: the act. It's also strange that we don't have uniform
Speaker 3: laws across the country regarding things like this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really interesting way.
Speaker 6: I think a lot of it hinges on the fact
Speaker 6: that one of the victims or the alleged victim, was
Speaker 6: able to see it, and I'd be very interested to
Speaker 6: know how that was.
Speaker 3: Whether, well, a number of the alleged victims did know
Speaker 3: the person who was creating these images. We're not told
Speaker 3: how they know each other, but at least one of
Speaker 3: the victims that have known this person for.
Speaker 1: Ten years, that's right, So how do they say it?
Speaker 6: So, for example, if the alleged perpetrator shows the victim
Speaker 6: an image that they have and that makes them uncomfortable,
Speaker 6: and he says, well, there's nothing you can do about
Speaker 6: it because I'm sable whatever, or he's just doing it
Speaker 6: for kicks, or he's doing it because he thinks it's
Speaker 6: going to be a great way to get them out
Speaker 6: for dinner.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think that is a major.
Speaker 6: Major problem if, however, the person came across it accidentally.
Speaker 6: In another context, it does raise an interesting ethical dilemma
Speaker 6: as to all, right.
Speaker 1: Well, how far should you be able to police the.
Speaker 6: Things that happen that are in your phone that are
Speaker 6: completely private that no one else may know about or whatever.
Speaker 6: And obviously everyone's going to be trying to hack into
Speaker 6: my phone after I just said that.
Speaker 1: But again, how I.
Speaker 6: Mean, God knows how many of the billions of thousands
Speaker 6: of photos that are in their photos that my kids
Speaker 6: would have taken of random stuff or whatever, all sorts
Speaker 6: of nuts stuff, whether or not, you know, how much
Speaker 6: do you police all of that?
Speaker 1: And obviously there is there is, you know, some of
Speaker 1: it can and should be policed.
Speaker 6: We don't tolerate, for example, child pornography on hard drives
Speaker 6: or phones just because it hasn't been distributed. That's an
Speaker 6: immediate criminal offense, and so it should be. So it
Speaker 6: just raises an interesting thing that all right, well, how
Speaker 6: it's a bit like schroding his cat. You know, if
Speaker 6: this guy had all these images but in no way
Speaker 6: impacted the way he behaved around any of these people,
Speaker 6: they were blissfully unaware that any of it actually was
Speaker 6: there and they were all just going about their lives.
Speaker 6: Has a harm been done? I think that's the interesting thing.
Speaker 6: So all hinges on the fact that one of the
Speaker 6: people in the phone was able to see it and
Speaker 6: how And the question is.
Speaker 7: Like, you say, how would you police that? So mens
Speaker 7: is there saying, oh, well, we're going to change the laws.
Speaker 8: Obviously this is acceptable. Everyone should feel safe and awesome
Speaker 8: at all times.
Speaker 7: But if this guy has just made them in the
Speaker 7: privacy of his own home and is keeping them for
Speaker 7: his own purposes, obviously no one was supposed to see them.
Speaker 7: How on earth is the police or whatever body they
Speaker 7: set up, whatever mechanism they make via law, how are
Speaker 7: you going to stop people from creating these images before
Speaker 7: AI they just used photoshop putting somebody's head on somebody
Speaker 7: else's naked body.
Speaker 3: I mean, the way you stop them is you make
Speaker 3: a law whereby if you are caught with these images,
Speaker 3: you are prosecuted, and so potentially that stops people for
Speaker 3: fear of prosecution. You can't stop people doing it, but
Speaker 3: you created this incentive through laws pertaining the prosecution.
Speaker 8: Yeah, again, how would you discover it?
Speaker 6: But this is why it is like, if this person
Speaker 6: saw it, And again, how does someone accidentally come across
Speaker 6: images and sad one's phone unless they have been invited
Speaker 6: to do so, unless someone is showing them to I mean,
Speaker 6: that seems passing strange. But if he's showing them to
Speaker 6: people saying Haha, isn't this funny? Or hah, look what
Speaker 6: you know? Look what I did? You know, how's about
Speaker 6: whatever it is that. I think you could the law
Speaker 6: could almost interpret that as in a way, trafficking the image.
Speaker 6: That's right, because you're communicating the image to someone. You're
Speaker 6: just doing an analog doing it old school.
Speaker 1: But anyway, let's go.
Speaker 2: To the United States.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow marks the one hundredth day in office for Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: He'll be celebrating with a big rally in Michigan, which
Speaker 3: is being titled Legendary Start. And I suppose if passing
Speaker 3: executive orders classifies as legendary, then it is a pretty
Speaker 3: impressive start. One hundred and thirty seven executive orders in
Speaker 3: the first one hundred days of his second presidency. That's
Speaker 3: more than any president since Franklin D. Roosevelt many many
Speaker 3: years ago. Although he's a tproval rating is not quite
Speaker 3: so impressive. It's the lowest for any newly elected president
Speaker 3: in about seventy years. An NBC poll has just forty
Speaker 3: five percent of Americans approving of Donald Trump. Fifty five
Speaker 3: percent disapprove. Interestingly, zero don't know, so everybody has an opinion.
Speaker 3: There are no undecided voters in the United States. No
Speaker 3: surprise that people don't sit on the fence when it
Speaker 3: comes to Donald Trump. When they asked voters about specific
Speaker 3: aspects of Trump's presidency, Trump failed to have a majority
Speaker 3: supporting him in any area, whether it was economy, immigration, tariffs,
Speaker 3: or even his actions on DEI, people were not in support.
Speaker 3: You can see the breakdown there the number of people
Speaker 3: overall forty five percent who approve versus fifty five percent
Speaker 3: who disapprove. Of course, it divides up amongst party lines.
Speaker 3: Eighty eight percent of Republicans approve, compared to just thirty
Speaker 3: two percent of Dependence and seven percent of Democrats's I'm
Speaker 3: not surprised that Trump polarizes people, nor might that surprised
Speaker 3: that his popularity has gone down. I mean, the Democrats
Speaker 3: made such a mess of America. Whoever was going to
Speaker 3: come in and clean up the mess was going to
Speaker 3: have to take unpopular steps. Doge hasn't been particularly popular,
Speaker 3: and you can understand why, but it had to be done.
Speaker 2: If you're going to renovate the house.
Speaker 3: And I've seen people of renovated houses and never done
Speaker 3: it myself, but when you watch people who renovate houses,
Speaker 3: it always looks worse before it gets better, and I
Speaker 3: would suggest that's what's happening in the US right Yeah.
Speaker 7: And a lot of this had to do with his
Speaker 7: recent big tariff moves that obviously have hurt Americans, have
Speaker 7: hit them in the hip pocket, and a lot of
Speaker 7: this pushback currently would be due to that, I think.
Speaker 3: And there's also only thirty nine percent of people supported
Speaker 3: his aspect on iss on.
Speaker 7: Tariff indeed, so that that was big part and parcel
Speaker 7: of it. My thing with opinion polls this early on
Speaker 7: in the election cycle is does.
Speaker 8: It really matter.
Speaker 7: The guy's in the hot seat for four years, so
Speaker 7: love him or hate him, He's just going to do
Speaker 7: what he thinks best is for the nation. The midterms
Speaker 7: on until November next year, by which point he could
Speaker 7: be soaring in the polls.
Speaker 2: Who knows.
Speaker 8: So at this point of the game, it.
Speaker 7: Is costing you nothing to make the hard calls, clear
Speaker 7: the decks while you can, which is why he's gone
Speaker 7: so hard during his first few sorry, his first one
Speaker 7: hundred days.
Speaker 8: It's I think it's.
Speaker 7: Good timing opinion polls at this point in the election cycle,
Speaker 7: and just like who cares he's in he's not seeking
Speaker 7: a second term because he can't by law. So this
Speaker 7: guy can go hard for his entire four years and
Speaker 7: everyone's just got to suck it up.
Speaker 6: It's amazing because he was. It's interesting that immigration has
Speaker 6: gone down to a net deficit for him, because that
Speaker 6: was the one area where the majority of voters actually
Speaker 6: did still support him until very recently. Another really interesting
Speaker 6: thing is that the support he has among Democrats is
Speaker 6: ninety three against who disapprove and seven who approve.
Speaker 1: I want to find those seven percent.
Speaker 6: The seven percent of Democrats I think Donald Trump's doing
Speaker 6: a great job, because I reckon they would be. That
Speaker 6: would be a really interesting insight into how he got elected.
Speaker 6: And again that sort of residence he has with you know,
Speaker 6: blue collar America who voted for Obama and then switched
Speaker 6: their vote to Trump in that Roust belt. But I
Speaker 6: think a lot of people vote for Trump on the
Speaker 6: assumption that he wasn't actually going to do a lot
Speaker 6: of the things he said he was going to do.
Speaker 6: And anybody comes out and goes, yes, I'm really doing.
Speaker 1: All the taffs like what, yes, I'm really back in putent.
Speaker 6: What people have just sort of run a mark, And
Speaker 6: I think Trump will probably self correct.
Speaker 1: And come back.
Speaker 6: But one more fun fact, and I just had to
Speaker 6: double check to make sure I.
Speaker 1: Wasn't misremembering it.
Speaker 6: But of course, Franklin Dono Roosevelt, the great hero of
Speaker 6: the American Democrats in my view, the greatest president, the
Speaker 6: greatest US president in all of history, great wartime leader.
Speaker 6: Roosevelt's New Deal got the nation through the depression and everything.
Speaker 1: Compared to Donald Trump, he was absolutely hated by the
Speaker 1: American left.
Speaker 6: And who they think is the devil in disguise, is
Speaker 6: or not even in disguise, is the Antichrist right there
Speaker 6: in front.
Speaker 1: And we know he's the Antichrist because.
Speaker 6: He's secretly a dictator and he's going to run again.
Speaker 1: He's not going to step down.
Speaker 6: He's going to be a dictator for life, make himself
Speaker 6: dictator for life, and might just step down after the
Speaker 6: two terms. Franklin Roosevelt four terms. Franklin Roosevelt ran and
Speaker 6: won four successive elections in the US and only moved
Speaker 6: from office thanks to the fact that he died. So
Speaker 6: there you got all that sort of fears of dictatorship,
Speaker 6: and they did change it to two terms after that,
Speaker 6: after the incredibly evil dictatorial Franklin D.
Speaker 1: Roosevelt, who was just so popular he could have stop
Speaker 1: getting re elective.
Speaker 3: Well, Trump keeps trolling the Democrats, suggesting that he made
Speaker 3: to ask the law to give himself a chance to
Speaker 3: run third times.
Speaker 8: I swear he's such a troll. He's such a troll.
Speaker 8: We know he's not going to do it.
Speaker 7: He knows he's not going to do it, but gosh,
Speaker 7: he loves to get them hot under the collar. To
Speaker 7: Ireland now, where while we were celebrating and Zach Day,
Speaker 7: our rich cultural heritage here in Australia, the Irish were
Speaker 7: doing something similar on what they call the Easter Rising
Speaker 7: commemoration to pay respects to those who fought and gave
Speaker 7: their lives to preserve.
Speaker 8: The Irish nation.
Speaker 7: There were tens of thousands of people who took to
Speaker 7: the streets in what was essentially an anti immigration rally.
Speaker 7: These guys were protesting and they were loud and proud,
Speaker 7: have a listen. Much like every Western country, Ireland has
Speaker 7: been absolutely smashed with immigration, and the Irish have had
Speaker 7: a gut full of it. So with their election coming
Speaker 7: up later this year, they are doing what they can
Speaker 7: while they can.
Speaker 8: To ensure their voices are heard.
Speaker 7: They are sick of becoming a minority in their own country,
Speaker 7: and they are sick of having a government who's doing
Speaker 7: absolutely nothing except for facilitating it. Enter the very unlikely
Speaker 7: hero who used to be a cage fighter. He's known
Speaker 7: as Connor McGregor, and he gets very very interesting mixed
Speaker 7: reactions in Ireland and indeed any Irish people that are
Speaker 7: met in recent weeks here in Australia, I've asked them
Speaker 7: their opinions on McGregor, and he's not so popular here
Speaker 7: amongst the Irish, but he is gaining traction with this
Speaker 7: simple message.
Speaker 11: Look, if you look at Poltage, just too rally todayational
Speaker 11: rally for Ireland. It's a rally against the policies of
Speaker 11: this government which has impacted all of us deeply in
Speaker 11: our soul and too much soul to ignore anymore.
Speaker 7: This is another election in a Western country which is
Speaker 7: literally fought on this single issue.
Speaker 8: We've seen this countless times now.
Speaker 7: We saw it in Italy, we saw it in the Netherlands,
Speaker 7: We've seen it time and time again America.
Speaker 8: Another one the UK.
Speaker 7: I don't know how Starma got in, but over two
Speaker 7: million Brits very quickly called for a fresh general election
Speaker 7: because they'd realized the era of their ways. This is
Speaker 7: just a reoccurring theme as people in Western countries say,
Speaker 7: you've got to stop this mass immigration, otherwise we are
Speaker 7: no longer going to be Ireland.
Speaker 8: If you take Sweden and fill it with Arabs, is
Speaker 8: it Sweden?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 7: If you take Mexico fill it with pakistanis is it
Speaker 7: Mexico anymore?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 7: These people are fighting the last dying breasts of their
Speaker 7: national identity, and power to them, I say.
Speaker 3: And of course there was a counter protest, much smaller
Speaker 3: in number, accusing those protesting immigration policy as being racist,
Speaker 3: But of course there's nothing racist about simply saying, as
Speaker 3: these Irish protesters were saying, that they would like Ireland
Speaker 3: to be ruled by the Irish for the Irish, and
Speaker 3: they don't want Ireland to lose it's irishness. This is
Speaker 3: part of the frustration, I think Joe for many in
Speaker 3: the West that we seem to have to honor every
Speaker 3: other culture and it's good to be respectful except for
Speaker 3: our own.
Speaker 2: And it just breeds a lot of frustration amongst people.
Speaker 3: I should point out is that that was a massive
Speaker 3: protest and by all reports it was entirely peaceful, which
Speaker 3: is quite contrary to the message we typically hear that
Speaker 3: people upset about high immigration are racist, they're violent, they're
Speaker 3: a bunch of hooligans.
Speaker 6: Well, one of the interesting things is that these guys
Speaker 6: have sort of self styled new generation of Irish nationalists,
Speaker 6: and they have this They deliberately held this rally as
Speaker 6: a commemoration of the Easter Rising, which of course was
Speaker 6: one of those typically Irish kind of pyrrhic efforts to
Speaker 6: sort of die nobly.
Speaker 1: For United Ireland, Free Island.
Speaker 6: But the people who are sort of the actual inheritors
Speaker 6: of that legacy, shin Fayne, who I do not have
Speaker 6: any truck with whatsoever, they were at the other rally.
Speaker 6: They are at the one protesting against it. So the
Speaker 6: kind of and Hinfein is of course the political wing
Speaker 6: of the IRA which again I do not have any
Speaker 6: truck with, because terrorism can never be justified no matter what.
Speaker 6: But it's interesting that the people who actually sort of
Speaker 6: fueled the Easter Rising, that these guys are commemorating and
Speaker 6: celebrating and trying to sort of recreate in a more
Speaker 6: peaceful terms. They're on the other side, And I think
Speaker 6: it's just one of those weird things where this is
Speaker 6: where politics has come.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: You're seeing the right and the left kind of swapping
Speaker 6: places all the time on all the DIFFERENTI and I
Speaker 6: don't think it's I think Ireland has always been a
Speaker 6: really before Before about the last two decades or whatever,
Speaker 6: Ireland was a really, really homogeneous country that was incredibly
Speaker 6: racially homogeneous and did not have anything like the immigration
Speaker 6: that other people did it. And then it went through
Speaker 6: this massive tech boom and a whole bunch of other
Speaker 6: people came in and a lot of people were really
Speaker 6: sort of rattled by that as well. I think as
Speaker 6: long as the economy is okay, as long as crime
Speaker 6: rates don't go up, I don't think people might. I
Speaker 6: don't think it's a matter of people coming in and
Speaker 6: taking their culture.
Speaker 1: They've obviously come to Ireland for the culture.
Speaker 6: It's just a question of if other people feel they
Speaker 6: are less safe or less prosperous because of uncontrolled immigration.
Speaker 7: It's not just that, Joe, it's the fact that it's
Speaker 7: the Irish taxpayer that is paying out millions. And again
Speaker 7: we see this in the UK, we see this all
Speaker 7: over the blaze. They are forking out millions to house
Speaker 7: these assignments.
Speaker 8: They are, you know, as the.
Speaker 12: People feel like they're economically worse come to Ireland that
Speaker 12: We've played videos on our show before of these immigrants
Speaker 12: who've come over there and complaining about cobwebs in their
Speaker 12: free housing.
Speaker 7: And again it's just the mass number as well. And
Speaker 7: so the Irish are watching the demographic change in their
Speaker 7: country at a rate of not they shouldn't be okay
Speaker 7: with it.
Speaker 1: I'm not economic pressures.
Speaker 6: It's not that you know that they're going to create
Speaker 6: another little Pakistan in Dublin. It's because people feel like
Speaker 6: they are economic.
Speaker 2: That's the thing that's started.
Speaker 8: That's that is also happening.
Speaker 7: I've watched countless videos of Irish people begging the truckloads
Speaker 7: of people from elsewhere in the world being taken to
Speaker 7: their their like just housing plantation type things in their.
Speaker 8: Country towns and them do not unload.
Speaker 7: Your buses here. We can't sustain these people. Why do
Speaker 7: you keep bringing them here? To absolutely heartrender.
Speaker 2: We need to go to a break.
Speaker 3: When we come back, we look at what's making news tomorrow,
Speaker 3: including how authorities ignored warnings that could have prevented the
Speaker 3: Bondai stabbings.
Speaker 2: All of that and more in the moment.
Speaker 3: Welcome back. Let's look at tomorrow's newspaper headlines. We'll start
Speaker 3: Joe with the Gold Coast Bulletin.
Speaker 6: Thank you very much, James, and to the great folks
Speaker 6: on the Gold Coast, my sincere regards.
Speaker 1: Because you have a bit of.
Speaker 6: A problem with a tense city crackdown coming because the
Speaker 6: council is running out of patients the CBD Jamboree, homeless
Speaker 6: people in a mushrooming Southport tenth City have been given
Speaker 6: a deadline of five pm today to pack up or
Speaker 6: face court action and finds up to eight thousand dollars
Speaker 6: in an unprecedented crackdown. I'm not surprised. It's unprecedented, I
Speaker 6: have to say, because I'm not sure if you're chasing
Speaker 6: someone who has to live in a tent for eight
Speaker 6: thousand smackaroos, I'm not sure you're gonna get.
Speaker 8: It, and I think they're going to any time.
Speaker 6: But I mean, obviously you have to do something about
Speaker 6: these things that they're on the spot fine for eight
Speaker 6: hundred and six dollars. Even that is a little bit steep,
Speaker 6: but it does remind me of an incredible.
Speaker 1: Story with Salvos once told me about. You might remember
Speaker 1: youngs Ago. There was a crackdown.
Speaker 6: I think it might have been in the lead up
Speaker 6: to the last Commonwealth Games in Melbourne, you know, the
Speaker 6: one that they actually had, and.
Speaker 1: They were trying to move on.
Speaker 6: There was a big homeless problem, lots of people in
Speaker 6: the streets, but they wanted to go away. So they
Speaker 6: started introducing sort of move on laws and you could
Speaker 6: find people for not moving on. And I said to
Speaker 6: the Salos, you know that seems pretty ridiculous. I mean,
Speaker 6: as if you can find them or whatever, And so
Speaker 6: I said, it actually worked really, really well because one
Speaker 6: of the biggest problems with homelesses is outreach and getting
Speaker 6: people to to get them in touch with the services
Speaker 6: they need that can turn them around. Oftentimes they just
Speaker 6: don't come forward it and ask for help.
Speaker 1: They too proud or whatever. And so the cops and
Speaker 1: the Salvos would go out together.
Speaker 6: The cops say, mate, move along up, Sorry, there you go,
Speaker 6: there's a fifty dollar fine. And then the Salvos work
Speaker 6: would step and say, hey, mate, I can take care
Speaker 6: of that for you if you want, you want to
Speaker 6: come with me, and he'd sort it all out.
Speaker 1: The cops would go off, nothing would happen and what
Speaker 1: was your name again?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 1: And where have you been sleeping? And then they put
Speaker 1: him in touch with the services they know. So the
Speaker 1: interesting thing and timbletrip.
Speaker 3: Point out about that front page, if we can put
Speaker 3: it back up again, we're talking about trumpet of patriots
Speaker 3: earlier at the headline tense city crackdown. You notice the
Speaker 3: advertisement on the bottom there. Another ten thousand Australians became
Speaker 3: homeless last month. Clive Palmer donated ten million meals to help.
Speaker 3: So that's great timing the target nicement with that headline.
Speaker 3: Very well done. Let's go to the Canberra Times. The
Speaker 3: article there headlined one of the most incompetent economic managers.
Speaker 3: Opposition leader Peter Dutton has attacked Andrew Barr. He's the
Speaker 3: act Chief Minister as quote, one of the worst economic
Speaker 3: managers labor has ever produced. That's obviously drawn a heated
Speaker 3: reply for Andrew Barr. Now this of course revolves around
Speaker 3: Peter Dutton's plan to get rid of forty one thousand
Speaker 3: public service jobs ostensibly from the Act. Andrew Barr says
Speaker 3: it would create absolute economic chaos in the Act, maybe
Speaker 3: even driving them to recession, which, of course, as Peter
Speaker 3: Dutton pointed out, as a little rich coming from Andrew Barr,
Speaker 3: considering the Act will have a net debt of over
Speaker 3: twelve billion dollars by twenty twenty seven. That'll be eighteen
Speaker 3: percent of state gross products. So Andrew Barr is not
Speaker 3: exactly in a great position to throw stones when it
Speaker 3: comes to economic management.
Speaker 7: Liz No indeed to the front page of the Courier
Speaker 7: Mail Now an absolutely appalling story revealed how Queensland police
Speaker 7: missed chance to stop Bondai killer massacre.
Speaker 8: Red flags missed.
Speaker 7: The splash reads Queensland police ignored please from Bondai junction
Speaker 7: stabber couches parents to admit him to a mental health
Speaker 7: facility just months before he killed six people in a
Speaker 7: shopping center massacre. The first day of the inquest into
Speaker 7: the tragedy also heard that a Queensland doctor said he
Speaker 7: was a quote fit and proper end quote person to
Speaker 7: hold a gun license. Conflicting reports there, certainly, but this
Speaker 7: would be absolutely no comfort to those who lost friends
Speaker 7: and family in that massacre.
Speaker 8: To learn that his own parents.
Speaker 7: Had called a head because we know that he'd left
Speaker 7: Queensland come to New South Wales, his parents had done
Speaker 7: some diligence there, alerting the police. He's now in your state.
Speaker 7: He is not in a stable state of mind. Please
Speaker 7: get him the help that he needs. And these please
Speaker 7: we learned today were just completely ignored.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just awful. Remember that all through it and
Speaker 1: it was just.
Speaker 6: The number of cracks that that guy fell through to
Speaker 6: be able to do what.
Speaker 3: It goes to the broader problem and perhaps this inquest
Speaker 3: will then prompt a discussion that I think we need
Speaker 3: to have about how do we.
Speaker 2: Handle people with serious mental illness.
Speaker 3: This guy had been diagnosed with schizophrenia many many years ago,
Speaker 3: back as far I think as about twenty fourteen. He'd
Speaker 3: been required to take medication, and as long as his
Speaker 3: medication fine, he was okay.
Speaker 1: Stop.
Speaker 3: But then when he stopped, everything went south and there
Speaker 3: was no one there who was responsible for him. Because
Speaker 3: we've prioritized you know, self determination, self responsibility.
Speaker 6: Is good, which is good, but I think often and
Speaker 6: often when you have cases like that, you lose friends
Speaker 6: and family pretty quickly. So I think you need to
Speaker 6: have some kind of casework or some kind of check
Speaker 6: in mechanism where if you are at risk of a
Speaker 6: serious mental illness where it could make your risk of
Speaker 6: the community, you have to take your meds and you
Speaker 6: have to show that you're taking your meds. You have
Speaker 6: to check in, and then if you don't, that's when
Speaker 6: that red flag goes up and maybe even gets to
Speaker 6: act upon.
Speaker 1: How about that, I mean.
Speaker 2: Just on that, imagine if he had got his gun license.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was bad enough as it was, but
Speaker 3: it could have been potentially even worse.
Speaker 1: It's terrifying to even contemplate. Something.
Speaker 6: However, that is not terrifying to contemplate is the stellar
Speaker 6: rise in the career of Andrew Charlton, the Labor Party's
Speaker 6: member for Paramatta and a fine upstanding blonde head, blue eyed.
Speaker 1: I mean, just look at him, like that has anything
Speaker 1: to do. Look at his teeth, Just look at his teeth.
Speaker 6: This guy's going all the way former economics advisor to
Speaker 6: Kevin Rudd. But don't hold that Upgains. No, he's a
Speaker 6: really good guy anyway. So how about I just read
Speaker 6: the story? How about we just do ALP backbench reformer
Speaker 6: has eyes on a frontline role Kevin Rud's former economic
Speaker 6: advisor or see they said it.
Speaker 1: I didn't even have to say it. They said it
Speaker 1: right here in the article.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but they haven't gushed about his physical appearance.
Speaker 6: It's implied in the copy, Liz, It's implied. Kevin Rud's
Speaker 6: former economic advisor, Andrew Charlton is positioning himself in the
Speaker 6: Labor Party as a pro business leader and a contender
Speaker 6: for a senior economic role for Albanezi government reclaims power
Speaker 6: despite a strike rivalry with Jim Chalmers. So it's got everything.
Speaker 6: It's got the tension, the rivalry, cage match, economic responsibility,
Speaker 6: pro business, with doctor Charlton having co written economic books
Speaker 6: the Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stieglitz and served as an
Speaker 6: influential advisor in doctor Rudd's economic response to the global
Speaker 6: financial crisis. Some Labor colleagues worry he has been deliberately
Speaker 6: under utilized by senior figures in the party over the
Speaker 6: past three years, despite his talent. He's genuinely enormous to
Speaker 6: as his super zoomer smart guy moved from Bellevue Hill
Speaker 6: to Paramatta just so he could live in the electric
Speaker 6: because he's got more money than God, because he made
Speaker 6: all this money doing stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know how people make.
Speaker 3: I reckon if he's positioning to be the pro business
Speaker 3: person labor party, he wouldn't have to position too hard.
Speaker 2: There'll be plenty of room.
Speaker 6: I think that's on kind Jones. But he is very privacy,
Speaker 6: he's very sensible. He's built a career in business. Jason Claire,
Speaker 6: who I know you secretly like I don't want to
Speaker 6: reveal any confidences. But he had a very strong look
Speaker 6: inside your soul, James, look inside your style.
Speaker 1: But he also came He came from Crowns the record
Speaker 1: he came from.
Speaker 6: But no, I'm saying he came from frans Evan as well.
Speaker 6: He came from a business background as well. So these
Speaker 6: guys are the you know, the gold standards. James is
Speaker 6: never going to tell me anything ever again.
Speaker 2: Last time we have a conversation with program, he.
Speaker 7: Gives one complimental one flavor guy and Joe's.
Speaker 6: Never letting James's bank account details. And then another one
Speaker 6: which I just this Monique Ryan's story. It just keeps
Speaker 6: on giving.
Speaker 1: I love it. So much.
Speaker 6: Please Monique, don't stop, can't stop, want to stop. China
Speaker 6: scandal engulfs teal MP Cou Yong teal MP. Monique Ryan
Speaker 6: has distanced herself from a Chinese community leader after volunteers
Speaker 6: wearing her campaign uniform were captured on video saying they
Speaker 6: were instructed to vote for her by an organization historically
Speaker 6: linked to Beijing's foreign influence operations.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love this so much.
Speaker 6: In footage uploaded to a local Facebook group on April
Speaker 6: twenty two, two individuals wearing Monique.
Speaker 1: Ryan campaign shirts claimed.
Speaker 6: G Jinminen, president of the Hubbai Association, had directed the
Speaker 6: Chinese diaspora to support the tel MP Hibbe's association.
Speaker 1: It's previously been.
Speaker 6: Accused of working with United Front Department, a Chinese Communist
Speaker 6: Party agency tasked with advancing Beijing's interests abroad.
Speaker 2: We've got to go to a break. But that's just
Speaker 2: more good news for Monique Ryan.
Speaker 3: Back in a moment, Katy Perry wishing she was still
Speaker 3: in out of space.
Speaker 2: That's coming up shortly. Well, Katy Perry is back in
Speaker 2: the news again.
Speaker 6: Joe, I do not know why people make me do
Speaker 6: these things, You know how I feel about Katy Perry.
Speaker 6: It's just the same way you feel about Jason Clair.
Speaker 6: I love her, adore her, I respect her politics, but
Speaker 6: nonetheless here he are insufferable. Katie Perry roasted by fans
Speaker 6: for space inspired tour outfit desperate attempt to say relevant.
Speaker 6: They say, this is Katie Perry and a new concert
Speaker 6: tour after coming back from space. Now that to me
Speaker 6: doesn't seem particularly safe for space travel. But I still
Speaker 6: think she should be able to wear whatever she wants.
Speaker 6: And yet fans have accused her of being insensitive. They've
Speaker 6: said that she is desperately trying to show off her figure.
Speaker 6: They say that is this what happens after you go
Speaker 6: to space and back? Said one very unkind social media user. Well, yes,
Speaker 6: it is what happens when you go to space and back.
Speaker 6: Have they been to space and back? No, they haven't,
Speaker 6: and Katy Perry has for eleven minutes on a SpaceX rocket. Well,
Speaker 6: one guy went in an outfit.
Speaker 2: One guy went to Mount Fuji and back.
Speaker 3: Last week, a guy rescued from the top of Mount Fuji,
Speaker 3: not once, but twice in just four days. A Chinese
Speaker 3: university student living in Japan climbed Mount Fuji last Tuesday,
Speaker 3: but then lost his shoes and had to be rescued
Speaker 3: by helicopter. Four days later, he decided to climb back
Speaker 3: up again to retrieve his mobile phone. Then he got
Speaker 3: altitude sickness and had to be rescued a second time.
Speaker 2: Liz, what's that saying?
Speaker 3: If at first you don't succeed, for goodness sake, don't
Speaker 3: try again.
Speaker 7: He is still more of an inspiration than Katie Perry.
Speaker 7: I mean this guy in comparison of all the incredible
Speaker 7: inspiring people alive and dead, humanity could obsess over, they
Speaker 7: choose an empty shell like Katie Perry to obsess over.
Speaker 8: It makes me sick. This guy's a hero in comparison.
Speaker 1: He's probably been higher than Katy Perry.
Speaker 3: On that note, we got to go enjoy the rest
Speaker 3: of your evening.
Speaker 2: Up next is read it better? He could