1 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Blong jenneral three point sixty rugby league from every angle. 2 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: This Friday night, rugby league history is on the line 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: at South Sydney. Winger Alex Johnson sits just two tries 4 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: away from Ken o'von's record, and the opposition it's the roosters. 5 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Of course. 6 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 3: He is the most understated player of his generation. 7 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: Amazing athlete who. 8 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 3: Specializes in the gentle art of enhancing his charm by not. 9 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: Being aware of it. 10 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 3: Alex Johnston rabbit O, what have we got on. 11 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: Our hands here? 12 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 4: Shockston? 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 5: You know who his back shoving the guest deleted t star. 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: Now try every step a celebration for froot try. Yes, 15 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: Alex Johnston's now just one try short of joining the 16 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: legendary Ken Irvine as Australian rugby league's. 17 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 4: Top try score I don't think. 18 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: Two tries and he's the all time record holder. It's 19 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 3: an incredible story with no longer speeches, just playing, hard work, 20 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 3: humilody and a drive within to turn up every single 21 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: day of his existence, no shortcuts. Johnston had only just 22 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: become a teenager when the NRL showed amazing foresight by 23 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: selecting him to morph into the great Gregginglis and their 24 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: season opener for two thousand and Noiner. He went on 25 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: to become the Ducks of Endeavors Sports High, an Australian 26 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: schoolboy representative, and for good measure, the author of a 27 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: couple of books. 28 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 6: I think I've read this book before. 29 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: Six future. 30 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 7: And his teammates they love him. 31 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: So make sure your stoff to give Alex Johnson next 32 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: year running out for his rabbit as against who else 33 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: Hunter Roosters this Friday night, I'm foxek. 34 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: What a player and what an achievement? Joining me again 35 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: the great Gordon Tallis bring the journal is in, Paul 36 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: Crawley and Dave Rickyo, what about this Alex Johnson? Only 37 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: two tries away and it could happen this week? 38 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 8: Audi absolutely what ken Ovine? What retired? What finished in 39 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 8: nineteen seventy. 40 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 9: Three, So that's a fifty fifty three year old record 41 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 9: that he's trying to break. 42 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 8: So that's amazing. 43 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 9: And then Maddie Nabel sums it up beautifully calls, oh. 44 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: It's a beautiful story. Like Maddie Nabel did a great 45 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: job there. I remember talking to Alex Johnson and doing 46 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 4: a story in the Telegraph in twenty twenty and the 47 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: club were going to let him go. They said they 48 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: couldn't fit him in the salary cap. There was a 49 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: knock on his carries out of trouble and he was heartbroken. 50 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 4: You know, he couldn't believe it was true, but he 51 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 4: was determined to come and prove himself. At that time, 52 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 4: he hadn't even scored one hundred tries, and you know, 53 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 4: for the right reason, South said no, we can't let 54 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: him go. He had that great affiliation with the other 55 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: players there. They gave him a contract and here he 56 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: is now on the verge of one of the great 57 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: rugby league records. You know, like Gord he said, fifty 58 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 4: three years, that's a hell of a long time. 59 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: He sounds like he's such a great bloke too, and 60 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: mate able. Kind of mentioned it how his teammates love him, Dave, Yeah, 61 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: and you can see that, like it's evident that they 62 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: just love him as a member of their team and 63 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: an integral part of it. Nearly well, he's about to 64 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: break a record one. 65 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 7: Hundred percent breath you spot on. 66 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 5: And it's that mateship that is a big reason why 67 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 5: he stayed at. 68 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 7: The Footag club. 69 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 5: Because the players spoke for him that this is a 70 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 5: guy we wanted our team and with the greatest of 71 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 5: respect to it. AJ, he's not a rep player, he's 72 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 5: not an original test player, and he's about the break. 73 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: Did play a test I think, I think Australia. 74 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, okay, So he has achieved his feet or 75 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 5: will achieve his feet, but the hard Yeah, it would 76 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 5: love for. 77 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 4: The club too, because that's the other thing I forgot 78 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 4: to mention too. He actually wrote a letter to the 79 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 4: club telling him how much he loved the place and 80 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 4: he wanted to stay, and that's what kind of pushed 81 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 4: it over the line when they made a decision to 82 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: let him stay. 83 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: Just before we go, it's good to see here on Tom. 84 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: He might have been a bit late today come back 85 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: from Melbourne. 86 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 5: Oh yes, right, you always talk about rushing the field. 87 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: Good luck with this now. 88 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: A lot of people are split on this right, whether 89 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: the fans should be able to jump on the field 90 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: and celebrate with Alex. 91 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: What's your opinion on Ask. 92 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 9: A twelve year old Gordon tell us him out there 93 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 9: and I'm trying to take his go, ask go ask 94 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 9: a young kid like me sitting there and if that's 95 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 9: my hero and that's yeah. I'm part of it. Me now, 96 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 9: sitting in the commentary box wanting to get on with 97 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 9: the game, I'd probably say no. 98 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: The aerill have urged fans not to do it. Okay, 99 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: so what we do want to make that clear, I'll 100 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: come to you. 101 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: What do you think, Well, the NRL have to do that, 102 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: don't they from a safety viewpoint and the safety point 103 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: of the game, they have to say don't do it. 104 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 4: But like Gordon said, once one kid throws his foot 105 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 4: over the fence, five thousand follow And I actually think 106 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: it would be great for the game. I really do. 107 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: I think this is not just one game of rugby league. 108 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 4: When this is not this is not two points Wait. 109 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 4: I spoke to Bennett about it today and I pointed 110 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 4: out to him I know where he stands on it, 111 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 4: right from a traditionalist, he doesn't want to see it. 112 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 4: But when this record, when when Ken Irvine set this record, 113 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 4: that was actually Bennett's first year coaching rugby league he 114 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: was coaching the Queensland Police Academy in nineteen seventy three. 115 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 4: I said, so that's how long it's taken to break this. 116 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 4: This can be something that we celebrate for the next 117 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 4: fifty years. 118 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: Has anyone ever seen our supporters before and think that 119 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: not one of them is going to jump on the field. 120 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: Have we not witnessed house fans over the years, and. 121 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 9: It would have happened to you if you're out there 122 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 9: in the Roosters Jersey bash Mese. 123 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have needed a security charter. 124 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 5: You know. 125 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 4: Alex said that on Mattie john Show the other day. 126 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: He said, you know what, they can't find them all. 127 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: It's kind of an invitation to get out. 128 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 5: The l will be disappointed that we are supportive of 129 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 5: what I think. We're all on the same page. We 130 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 5: view this moment as something so extraordinary that will live 131 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 5: in our memory back we will never see it again. 132 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 8: As a dad, As a dad, I said no, as 133 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 8: a twelve year old, I'm jumping on. 134 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: Let's get to the game because it's going to be 135 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: a big one. This this match, I mean the Bunnies 136 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: and Roosters. If anyone knows it's me. It always delivers, 137 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: it really does. I was a Souse fan, Rooster's player, 138 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: and we all know the history there. But it is 139 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: a game that is no matter where the sides are 140 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: on the ladder, it always turns into to a contest 141 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: that it delivers. Like I said at the top, it's 142 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: unbelievable that the results and the close games and encounters 143 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: that have that have that have been. 144 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 7: Throw you throw form out the window. And I appreciate 145 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 7: what only in round two. 146 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 5: So the form line is not great as yet, but 147 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 5: it's a derby as hatred and as you said, history 148 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 5: suggests that this will be another match that brings something 149 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: to look These images are just all part of the 150 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 5: rivalry that that you get when South and the Roosters clash, 151 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 5: and this will be no different. And I think there's 152 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 5: just so much on the line for the Rooster's breath. 153 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 4: There's animosity, isn't there from the level of Nick Politis 154 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 4: and Blake solely all the way down to the players. 155 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 4: They genuinely hate each other. It's a powder keg every 156 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 4: time these blokes run out in the field. But I 157 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 4: kind of disagree in away with form at the moment 158 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 4: because the Roosters have got so much to prove after 159 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: their disappointing first up game, and southse have got a 160 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: spring in their step because after their heartache last year 161 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: with all the injuries, suddenly they know that they haven't mad. 162 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 9: And punch it to the top up front without lend 163 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 9: you and Victor Well, the. 164 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 4: Roosters have got two packs of NRL forwards their mate. 165 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: You'd hope they've got enough, but they've got the if 166 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: you they're playing for. I know, I know, but they've 167 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: got genuine first grade replacements all over the park in 168 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 4: every position. They've got more depth in their forwards and souths. 169 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: There's been a lot. 170 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: Made of DC's debut for the Roosters on the weekend. 171 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 5: How did you two see it? Disappointing? Disappointing but not surprised. 172 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 5: And I say that because in my it doesn't matter 173 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 5: how experienced he is and how quality of a player 174 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 5: is the combination between he and Sam Well, what did 175 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 5: we think it was just going to click like that? 176 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 7: It was always going to take a little bit of time. 177 00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 5: My concern is that they bought an aging DC that 178 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 5: had a pretty disappointing season last year. 179 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 9: Can I ask, what doesn't it click if you play 180 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 9: REP footy sometimes they get ten days to click. 181 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 7: Sure? Sure? 182 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 9: And with Dally Cherry Evans been thirty seven, having all 183 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 9: that experience, seam Walker the year that he's had, you know, you. 184 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: Think that I think it will click. 185 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: And we've got Seam Walker coming up on the show 186 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: later which is a great get and I'm going to 187 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: ask him about it, but I think they will. I 188 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: think we've got to give him some time. And you know, 189 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: it's first game over in New Zealand, which is always 190 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: tough and discipline. Of course, how hard is it with 191 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: a new seven or a new six force. 192 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard to get that fluency. 193 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: You've got to get to know each other's game and 194 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: how they move and how they talk, and what's their 195 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: preferred time to get the ball and not get the ball, 196 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: and you know who's the dominant one, who's going to 197 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: take what role in the team. And you know, it 198 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: takes time to get to that elite level where you're 199 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: actually a premiership threat. It doesn't happen overnight you've got it. 200 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: And I said last night you've got to give some 201 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: teams some grace. It's only around one. 202 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 4: I expected it would. It would take time, simply because 203 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 4: Jerry Evans has spent sixteen years playing half back and 204 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 4: Sam Walker is a born halfback, and so you're trying 205 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 4: to match two genuine sevens into a halves combination. And 206 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 4: as you said, mate, working out how that's going to work. 207 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 4: I thought attack wise, it would take a while. The 208 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: concern for me was Dcu's defense letting two tries in. 209 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 4: It's not you. You know, he's had problems with his 210 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: defense going back a few seasons now, and I reckon 211 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: that would have to be a concern because you tell me, breath, 212 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 4: as you get older and you know what's coming at 213 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 4: you and you have to put your body on the line, 214 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 4: and you know that it's getting harder and harder to 215 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: do that, and to do it thirty seven years of age. 216 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 9: As you get older, it gets harder to pay the price. 217 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 9: And it's not out on the field, it's training every day. 218 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 9: You just got to get yourself up for the combat. 219 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 4: And the thing about it is too there's genuine I 220 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 4: know you said last night you didn't have him in 221 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 4: your top four, but I think most people did. And 222 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: the fact that the Rooster's played my mind a premier 223 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: is well I did too. And the fact that Rooster's 224 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 4: played semi final football last year with Hugo, Savala and 225 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 4: Sam tells me that they have to at least finish 226 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 4: top four this year to even get a pass mark 227 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: from themselves. 228 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 5: On that point, Crauls. In relation to DC, He's defense. 229 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 5: Robbo has made a change here on that right edge. 230 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 5: He's dropped Butcher back to the bench and promoted Sewa 231 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 5: Wong into that right edge spot. 232 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 2: So straight away. 233 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 7: We're saying a change to solidify DC's position. 234 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: We spoke about last night, Crawls and you want to 235 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: have a say on this. They're discipline. 236 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 4: I thought it was, you know, I thought they were 237 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 4: completely over the top. James Tedesco is one of the 238 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 4: statesmen of our game, you know, like he's a Test captain, 239 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: he's a new South Wales captain. He should know better 240 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 4: than to get up in the referees face throughout that 241 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: game and just keep going and going and going. And 242 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: I know, Gordy, you don't agree with this, but they 243 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: are role models to the kids out there and sets 244 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: a bad example for young rugby league players coming into 245 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 4: a season when you had Teddy constantly in his face, 246 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 4: arguing all the time. Half the time everyone knew the 247 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: reford made the right call and they just didn't get up. 248 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: Mate. 249 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: Our little mate Sam out the back wasn't much better, 250 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 4: you know, like he was constantly blowing up about different 251 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: decisions and everything, and I just think they've got to 252 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: be more responsible. They've got to get the discipline in 253 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 4: their game. You showed the graph last night where in 254 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: the last five seasons the Roosters have always been down 255 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 4: near the least disciplined teams in the competition. So they've 256 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 4: got to take some bus on this. It's no use 257 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 4: Trent Robinson getting there after the game and making out 258 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 4: that was an issue. Their discipline has been an issue 259 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 4: for years. 260 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: You can see the frustration in the players and he's 261 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: got the better of them. 262 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: And you're right. I mean, that's say it all. 263 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: And I reckon they admitted themselves like it'd be frustrating. 264 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: It's frustrating for fans. I can only imagine within the 265 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: four walls of the group to think that. I said 266 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 2: it last night. 267 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: If the Rooster's team with the squad they've got completed 268 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: seventy five percent or better, they don't lose. And you 269 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: could see and when they controlled the footy for a 270 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: small period of time there they're all over the Warriors, 271 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: but they just shot themselves in the foot so and 272 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: I said last night, I don't agree. We've been up 273 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: in the face of the referees at all. I thought 274 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: the officiating over the weekend, which you won't get to 275 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: a bit later, was poor. And I even said Dad 276 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: before we interviewed him last night, we're going to give 277 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: it a few weeks because they've got to iron out 278 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: a few cracks. But they were frustrated. But any other 279 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: team you could say, you know what, maybe, but because 280 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: they've been so real disciplined for so long, it's hard 281 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: to argue, isn't it well, And. 282 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 4: It is compounding two break like you know, like if 283 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 4: you give away one penalty through bad discipline right then 284 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 4: on the back of that, you're defending a second set 285 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: and there might be a legitimate six again call because 286 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: fatigue starts to get in and then once that starts, 287 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 4: it just becomes the snowball. 288 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: Well, it's going to hurt him even more this year 289 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: with the six again in that zone that it is now, 290 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: if they make errors like they did, it's going to 291 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: hurt them even more than it has past years. And 292 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: we saw that in the game. The possession is king 293 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: more so than ever before, and if you don't control 294 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: the foot you will have respect for that ball. 295 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: You're going to lose games. 296 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: Now If they continue to struggle this year, which is 297 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: it's premature, right, but is it going to be pressure 298 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: on Robo And yep, we've probably addressed this a few 299 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: times over the last few seasons. 300 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: But looking at that record and you know, if they 301 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: do struggle again this year. 302 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 9: But if they do struggle, but there's eight year since 303 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 9: they've won a competition and the inside is at the rooster, 304 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 9: so that Nick says that I get it, you know, 305 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 9: like a premiership winning roster. 306 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 8: Pretty much every year we. 307 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 7: Played for premierships. 308 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what the evidence is there that they 309 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: played for premierships, right because Nick brought this academy through 310 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 4: where they're grooming all their young guys to be their 311 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 4: NRL stars of the future. And they've had kids in 312 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: that system playing dummy half and they've had kids in 313 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 4: that system coming through the halves. And yet after last 314 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: year they go and sign daily Cherry Evans, the former 315 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: Queensland captain, and they go and get the current new 316 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 4: South Wales hooker, you know, and they come in over 317 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 4: the top of who they've already got there. Because that 318 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: says to me, they want to win the comp They're 319 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 4: not there to finish top eight, not even top four. 320 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 4: They're there to win the comp. So I don't think 321 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 4: there's any chance in the world the Roosters will get 322 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 4: rid of Trent Robinson. But you talk about pressure, he's 323 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 4: got pressure on himself because his expectation would be the 324 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 4: same as his bosses. 325 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, and answer to question braitht and'd see pressure. Yes, absolutely, 326 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 7: every NAL coach is under pressure. But a job so sackable. No, 327 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 7: he's just got too many runs on the board the Rooster. 328 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: So let's be made of the Broncos performance. What was 329 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: your take on it? 330 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 5: Hugely disappointing, leaking what fifty six points in two matches 331 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 5: now including the World Club Challenge the Brisbane Broncos. You know, 332 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 5: there's just been so much discussion in and around their 333 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 5: preseason once again. Might left may leave mud on our 334 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 5: faces come September, but they look as though they're a 335 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 5: side that has had a monster pre season once again, 336 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 5: heavy legs. 337 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 4: People can say, you know, it's too early in the 338 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: season to judge, but unfortunately Rugby league public sits there 339 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 4: and we judge everything every week. That's how the game works. 340 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 4: And you're right, Dave, they've had so much drama over 341 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 4: the off season with their staff forward arguably a blake 342 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: that will probably go down as the greatest prop we've 343 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 4: ever seen leaving the club. And he didn't leave for 344 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 4: more money elsewhere. He chose to leave at the last minute. 345 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 4: Days after Michael maguire had come out and said he 346 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: thinks he's going to stay. Payinnhas has pulled all their 347 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 4: pants down and gone to South Sydney. Right, So there's 348 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: something going on there and they can deny it till 349 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 4: they're blue in the face, but something it is. 350 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 9: Because I'm in Brisbane and you hear that it's money, right, 351 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 9: So the people within the club are saying, oh, you 352 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 9: know it's the third Parties, that's house. We couldn't match it. 353 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 9: And then you hear the religion part of it. Do 354 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 9: you reckon it is? 355 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 4: You're in Brisbane? 356 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: Right? 357 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you tell me what you reckon, what you honestly reckon? 358 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: Do you reckon that? There's drama behind the scenes that 359 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: hasn't been spoken about, be honest? 360 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, probably, yeah, absolutely, because of the way that they're 361 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 9: trying to smother it. 362 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 4: Exactly. 363 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 5: Financially, Gordy, Financially, the Broncos don't lose players, That's. 364 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 9: That's one thing that I can't swallow because they've got 365 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 9: two million dollar halfbacks. So I think it might be 366 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 9: like a mismanagement. And maybe he did slide under the rug. 367 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 9: Maybe he did slide out the back door. I don't know, 368 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 9: that's what I'm saying. So on the back listen all 369 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 9: as I did here and it's hearing that you know 370 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 9: that they were disappointed. There was a like a hard 371 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 9: session put on when they didn't think that they had 372 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 9: to go do it. They went up to Timboo or 373 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 9: something and it was two weeks and it was another 374 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 9: two weeks or whatever that they had to go to 375 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 9: England and it was time away from their families. That is, 376 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 9: you know, like that's that's that's loud around the place, 377 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 9: but that's about it. 378 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 5: Put it this way, right, Let's compare how the Warriors 379 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 5: have managed the departure or incoming departure of Mitch Barnett 380 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 5: on compassionate grounds. 381 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 7: It's related to his family pain. 382 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 5: Hass has a family environment that is so significant that 383 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 5: we will never understand to be fair. 384 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 8: Right, too hard basket for us. 385 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 7: The Broncos could. 386 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 5: Have managed that identically to the way the worries about 387 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 5: with Mitch. 388 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 7: Barn because they didn't. 389 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 4: Bloody No, it was all done cross under cover. The 390 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 4: deal with Sous was done under cover. They were caught. 391 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: Unaware by You're not by the denial, No, I'm not. 392 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 4: No, there's something, there's something going on at that club 393 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 4: behind the scenes. Go I want to change, mate. It 394 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 4: could be a part of that. He's been there for 395 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 4: ten years. But Gordon, you tell me after, after you've 396 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 4: won a competition and you're surrounded by arguably the most 397 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 4: talented squad in the competition. Well, and you're telling the club, 398 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 4: and you're leading the club along to believe that you're 399 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 4: going to be staying, and then all of a sudden 400 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 4: you walk out. And then there's all this speculation going 401 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 4: on around the club that no one's going to admit 402 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: will we ever get to the bottom? 403 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 8: Pain is such a quiet ye. And then you've got 404 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 8: anyone And this is not a knock. 405 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 9: But anytime the club's in crisis, you never hear from 406 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 9: their chairman, you never hear from their CEO. 407 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: Ever. 408 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 7: Well, this was my point. 409 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 5: I've made this point repeatedly about the management, the pr 410 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 5: management of his exit. He is the best front rower 411 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 5: in the game. He's the biggest figure of the Bronco. 412 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, now because of that, every time they lose, it's 413 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: going to. 414 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: Be honest, which brings us back to their performance though, 415 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 4: breath on the weekend, because after what they dished up 416 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 4: in the in the World Club Challenge and all the 417 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 4: drama that is centered around that club in the off season, 418 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 4: you really expected, if there's no drama there, they're going 419 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 4: to come out and make a statement in round one. 420 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 4: And they didn't turn up to play. They just didn't 421 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 4: turn out. 422 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: I'm still confident they'll bounce back, and I think everyone's 423 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: jumping the game a little bit. 424 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna they got there. 425 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 8: The pain hasse doesn't get all the play. 426 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 2: No, we shouldn't. It's round one, it's round one. Breath. 427 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 4: We're assessing what they did on the week and I'm. 428 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 1: Not and I'm not being critical of you assessing them, 429 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: and I'm just saying it's I'm quietly confident that they'll 430 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: bounce back. What I didn't agree with it was Ezra 431 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: men starting on the bench that I just couldn't understand that. 432 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 2: We spoke again with the other journals last night. 433 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 7: How did you to I've got a bit of an update. 434 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 5: The mynor thing is he had a cot injury and 435 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 5: it was it was about load management bringing him back 436 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 5: into the team. 437 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: Sure, I'm not. 438 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 5: That's certainly what we've been starting this week. He's seemingly 439 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 5: overcome the courting. 440 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 4: The management into the start of the game instead of 441 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 4: the back end of. 442 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 5: The gay Seriously, I'm sitting. 443 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 4: At home and I'm like you, broth, I'll tell you 444 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 4: exactly what I was thinking. I was thinking. This just 445 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 4: reminds me of Brian Smith. Too tricky for your own good. 446 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 7: That's a bit of it. 447 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 4: No, No, it's not, mate, He's he's he's the bloke. 448 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 4: He was the second best player on the field in 449 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 4: the Grand Final. Off the bench. He's one, but they 450 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 4: took him anyway. 451 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: You're on the bench cold and you've got to come 452 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: on and make an impact with a number. 453 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: We've got breaking news from Brent Reed and Michael carriyanas 454 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: Kaylen Ponger has requested to change. 455 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: His allegiance to New Zealand. This is big. 456 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: We've spoken about this past couple of seasons. With the 457 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: rule change, now he is able to apply for this. 458 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: Although he did play for Australia in the Nines, twenty 459 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: nine long ways back. 460 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: So he has to request day because of that. Is 461 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: that right? Correct? Correct? 462 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 5: This will go to the International Rugby League Board tomorrow 463 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 5: and it will be on their watch to determine whether 464 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 5: they want to accept Kalen's application to now represent the 465 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 5: Kiwi's if they come up with a decision. 466 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 7: There is a special committee. 467 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 5: Boys that will be now formed for this newly introduced 468 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 5: rule around eligibility and it could be the committee that 469 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 5: comes up with the call in coming days. It is 470 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 5: not ratified yet, but certainly Calin and I don't see 471 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 5: why they weren't ratified given they did so for Aj 472 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 5: Brimson with England that Calen wants to play for the Kiwis. 473 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 4: I'm glad it puts out of our misery. Like two 474 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 4: years ago Calen Ponger pulled out of the Australian side 475 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: and showed complete disrespect to malma Inger at the time 476 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 4: and in my thoughts at the time, he should have 477 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 4: been stood down from Origin the next year, but the 478 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 4: NRROL let it go through to the keeper. No big deal. 479 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 4: I would have been shocked if he would have made 480 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 4: the Australian side going forward because of what he did 481 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 4: to mail back then, so he obviously wants to play 482 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 4: for New Zealand. Go and play for New Zealand. The 483 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 4: question is from an Origin perspective, do we all sit 484 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 4: on the where do we sit with the change of eligibility. 485 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 5: I'm absolutely fine with it because ultimately, the most important 486 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 5: determining factor around this rule change remains the same. So 487 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 5: long as you so long as you've been in the 488 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 5: country since the age of thirteen, you're. 489 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 7: Right now, you've got every right to play. I'm not expecting. 490 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 5: An influx of kee Wie Polynesian players to start playing Origin. 491 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 7: I think that will be a handful. 492 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's good for the game, 493 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 5: and it's demographically the where the game's go. 494 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: It just shows though that Kaitlins wanted to do this 495 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: for a very long time. First one, he didn't. He 496 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 2: didn't want to wear that. 497 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say they can't speak for him. But the 498 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: fact that that incident happened, which we will quite harsh 499 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: on because we thought, you know what he wants to play, 500 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't. He doesn't want to report in Australia, wants 501 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: to represent New Zealand. 502 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: Good on him. He's got his chance now, So that's 503 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 2: that's fine. What do you think, Gordy, Well. 504 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 9: My opinion will never change if you don't want to 505 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 9: play for Australia, the stepping stones in New South Wales 506 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 9: and Queensland. So I'd rather play for Queensland and loses 507 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 9: Queensland without Klin in the side. 508 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: Rule you wouldn't want him, you know, really sitting down 509 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 4: and picking his team next year, would you want him 510 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 4: in the team? 511 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 9: Grease pick tab, pick someone that's going to go along 512 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 9: and wants to play in the Green and Girl. And 513 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 9: that's just my opinion and they can shoot me down. 514 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 9: But I'd rather lose as a Queenslander with people that 515 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 9: want to go And as long as I was born 516 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 9: in this country, Queensland is part of Australia, right, so 517 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 9: you play for Queensland, you play against. 518 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 7: You say it can still have passion for Queensland and 519 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 7: also where the jump? 520 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 4: But that he's family, he's a traditional. 521 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 9: As a kid, I knew what jersey I wanted as 522 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 9: a kid. Ask him as a kid to Queensland jersey 523 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 9: and the Australian jersey. So go ask him when they're 524 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 9: nine and ten playing You know what, I don't ask 525 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,239 Speaker 9: them when there's money of old no, no, don't ask 526 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 9: when there's money. 527 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 8: But I'll tell you what you do. 528 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 9: Take the thirty thousand away from Queensland if you want 529 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 9: to go play for another country. 530 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 8: See whether they chooses. 531 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 7: He's giving me those scary or like the fact scared? 532 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 5: You know? 533 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: The new rules though with confinement now and. 534 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 4: Like most as an Australian, the thing I like most 535 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 4: is the fact that Pong is a great example because 536 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 4: two years ago he obviously didn't want to play for Australia, 537 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 4: right and he pulled out. At least now every single 538 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 4: person that pulls on that green and gold jersey, that's 539 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 4: their first choice probably and so we'll know who really 540 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 4: wants to play for Australia. There'll be no argument. 541 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 2: You know. 542 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 8: The real changes was state of origent broke? Is it broke? 543 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 8: Is it the highest rating? 544 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: Shape? 545 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 8: Is it our best product? So? 546 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 2: Was it broke? 547 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 8: So what are we trying to fix? 548 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 5: Because the rugby league demographic has changed, Cordy, We've had 549 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 5: players in Australia since the age of thirteen that are 550 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 5: eligible to represent the heritage of their family as well. 551 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And there's got to be rules around it. 552 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: It can't be jumping from rules around no no, no, 553 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: no no around on how many international teams you can 554 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: play for. 555 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 2: So if you are born in New Zealand and you've. 556 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: Got a samo And mother and an Australian father, you 557 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: can play for three teams. So what's the cap on 558 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: that you can play for one year? 559 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 10: We can't lose tea, right, you know it's tea because 560 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 10: kids aren't now Now the Kiwis and the Englishmen can 561 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 10: now play Origin if they're if they're eligible. 562 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: So how would that look though You've got a player 563 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: playing for three different countries within three years. It's not 564 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: going to happen, right, Okay, if you don't make the 565 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: World Cup team, you can go and play for the 566 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: other one. Right then you make the World Cup, maketure 567 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: you play for the other one, then. 568 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 2: You jump back. 569 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: That's the I'm not saying it's going to happen, but 570 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: it can happen, and it may happen like it's a possibility. 571 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: We haven't. 572 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: Well, that's why I'm saying with the rules, I think 573 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: you should only be able to switch countries once or. 574 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: Maybe twice maximum. 575 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: There's got to be a limit on that because there 576 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: are a lot of players that are born here other countries, 577 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: grow up here but have parents, different cultures, different you know. 578 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 4: It's it's not like this is a beginning either, Dave, Like, 579 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 4: it's not. I know there's more and more people that 580 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: will qualify for this, but you think back even recently 581 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 4: Kieran Forum. Kieran Forum grew up in Sydney. He was 582 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 4: eligible to play state of origin, but he didn't because 583 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 4: he chose the Kiwi's first. He drew that line in 584 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 4: the sand news from the start of his career. Jerome Hughes, 585 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 4: and he's come out and said, you know, he wouldn't 586 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 4: change his mind even if he was eligible. 587 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 2: You know what. 588 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 8: I think Carless was one as well. 589 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's not a new thing. It's just a 590 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 4: new change, all right. 591 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: Benji Marshall has issued a heavy warning to his players 592 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: during the preseason, as the Tigers coach hopes to break 593 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: the club's finals drought. 594 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 6: And we're big on standards and if you don't make 595 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 6: your times consistently and you can't perform and you don't 596 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 6: turn up and you're not professional, you'll be fitning out 597 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 6: of Yet it's happened, trust me, We've been through the shit. 598 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 6: We're not doing that anymore. Okay at the West Tigers. 599 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 6: Now we stand for something. And if you're not prepared 600 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 6: to follow what we stand for, guess what as the 601 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 6: fund or? 602 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: Did he show himself? He just walked out the door, didn't. 603 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 5: That was? 604 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: We didn't cut that up. That was that was the clip. 605 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: We didn't cut it up. 606 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: He showed him the door, then he walked straight out 607 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: of himself. It was, and then two minutes later being 608 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: all seriousness. 609 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 8: That's a good spoot. 610 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: I love it. So I love this. You know, this 611 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: is what they've needed. I reckon for a long time. 612 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 7: I don't think it adds pressure immediately. 613 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: No, No, you want to league first rate? 614 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 9: You know what you know if you get an any 615 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 9: dressing room right now, if you get any dressing room, 616 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 9: that speech is said. 617 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 7: I understand what understand. 618 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 9: Isn't a good broadcast, But isn't it good that the 619 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 9: fans get all access now? 620 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: No? 621 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 9: So like a Tiger fan now is going to go 622 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 9: and watch it and go I'm pumped up, isn't he? 623 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what adds pressure. The fact they haven't 624 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 4: bloody played finals since twenty twelve. That adds pressure on 625 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 4: every one of the class, you. 626 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 5: Said, but it has pressure the vision being shared by 627 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 5: the West Tiger's mind. You on a YouTube channel. We 628 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 5: now know where Benji sits as far as what the 629 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 5: requirements are. 630 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: And it doesn't every coach. 631 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 5: Okay, we don't know how Craig Fit's given speaks to 632 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 5: his players. 633 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 7: We don't know how Robert he may not. 634 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: Speak to The. 635 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 9: Line in the set is still going to be there 636 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 9: no matter how they say it, no matter how they 637 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 9: delivered their speed. 638 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: That's the coaches don't always Just because Benji delivered that 639 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: right there and then doesn't mean that every time he 640 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: talks to him. 641 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 7: That's the way I've been suggesting that. 642 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 5: Now, what are you suggesting that, because in that moment, 643 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 5: I think I think the exposure, well, how ridiculous for 644 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 5: a journey to say. 645 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: Thank yourself? No, I am. 646 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 5: I don't know if the West Tigers. We're being down 647 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 5: this path before. Hello, Ti, tales of Tiger Town. 648 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: Be positive. Please, you're very pessimistic tonight. 649 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 7: We've been down this path before, and you know what, 650 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 7: we're jumping on the Tigers. They're going to have a 651 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 7: good year. 652 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 5: But I don't think you need to add more pressure 653 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 5: by doing a documentary? 654 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 11: Again, what can I beautiful? Because you're a fan, it's whatever. 655 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 11: It's you're a fan. 656 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 9: If you're sitting on the hill with your son, aren't 657 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 9: you happy to hear that from your coach? 658 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 659 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, they're sure. But mate, it's the West Tigers. 660 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 5: They've been through enough crap. They don't need more spotlight 661 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 5: on them. 662 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: I don't see that as a big termination. I see 663 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: that as as a legend of buzz. 664 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 8: Ever, give you one of those speeches and. 665 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: What do we think, guys, what do we think of 666 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: the club extending Benji's contract? 667 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 7: I thought it was premature, it was too early. I mean, 668 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 7: what was why? 669 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 8: Stability? 670 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 7: Usually when I. 671 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 5: Look at a coach being re signed, I look at 672 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 5: what other clubs are chasing, well, chasing that coach. 673 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 9: Weren't they in the paper today a board member trying 674 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 9: to get back on the board. They're asking for more 675 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 9: Moneyn't that show stability to the playing group? 676 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 7: Yeah that's what they saw. 677 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 5: But you don't have to push it out that far, Gordy, Okay, 678 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 5: And to be fair to Benji, and. 679 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 7: I want to be fair here, they are on an 680 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 7: output trajectory. 681 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 5: They're going places that they certainly showed improvement in him, 682 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 5: but was it enough for an extension. 683 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't enough for an extension. You know, they 684 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 4: finished thirteenth last year in the wooden Spoon of the 685 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 4: year before that. You know, they've got a pretty talented roster. 686 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 4: They really have. When you go through that roster, there's 687 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 4: enough good players there. They should have an expectation on 688 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 4: themselves this year to be playing top eight. But after 689 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 4: all the drama that they had last year with the 690 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 4: board and everything, and there's all this chaos as per 691 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 4: usual at the Tigers, and they come out with the answer, 692 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 4: I know what we're going to do. We're going to 693 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 4: give Benji an extension until the end of twenty thirty 694 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 4: when there's no one else, there's no one else. 695 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: That wants to blood. 696 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: I love Benji and I think he's doing a great job, 697 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: and I wish for his sake, I wish he signed 698 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: a thirty year deal. But just from the outside looking off, 699 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: it was premature and a bit of a let's just 700 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: sign him while we can and keep the fans happy. 701 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 7: I think he's right. I think they were searching for stability. 702 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: And I think he's doing a great job. I just 703 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: thought it was a bit bit reactive. 704 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: Stick around journos. Tomorrow, a brand new show begins on 705 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: Fox Sports. Motor Racing three sixty begins. Jess Shates, Paul Murray, 706 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: Mark Scaife and James Phelips get to the bottom of 707 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: all the big issues in supercars, Moto GP and Formula One. 708 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: Catch Moto Racing three sixty tomorrow at seven point thirty 709 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: pm on Channel five oh six.