Speaker 1: Lately.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the late base, Thanks for joining us. I'm
Speaker 2: James Macpherson, with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond coming up.
Speaker 2: A US court asked to declare elephants to be persons
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Speaker 2: reason the judge declined to grant the request. We'll get
Speaker 2: to that a bit later. Plus we'll look at what's
Speaker 2: making news in tomorrow's papers. Anthony Albanezi releases a statement
Speaker 2: supposed to clarify his Quantus upgrade situation, but it only
Speaker 2: serves to raise more questions, and Victorians who dared to
Speaker 2: question Dan Andrews's COVID response will labeled pigheaded. Know it
Speaker 2: alls in government emails. All of that a little later,
Speaker 2: But first you would have heard successful businesses boast about
Speaker 2: the fact they were able to do more with less. Well,
Speaker 2: you'd never accluse the ABC of being a successful business,
Speaker 2: and they've reversed that adage in their annual report, boasting
Speaker 2: they've done less than their ever done before, with more
Speaker 2: of your money than they've ever had before. Despite receiving
Speaker 2: funding of one point one billion dollars last financial year,
Speaker 2: the ABC's total audience dropped by six hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: thousand people a week on average. But it's even worse
Speaker 2: than that. According to their annual report, they still, despite
Speaker 2: receiving one point one billion dollars of your money, have
Speaker 2: budget challenges. It goes on to say the ABC operated
Speaker 2: within its total sources of funds and revenue from government
Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty three to twenty four financial year
Speaker 2: recording get this, a minor technical operating deficit of two
Speaker 2: point two million dollars. So oh, it's the most money
Speaker 2: they've ever had, but the audience is declining and they're
Speaker 2: losing money. And to add salt to the wound, outgoing
Speaker 2: manager Director David Anderson was paid one million dollars to
Speaker 2: oversee this abject failure.
Speaker 3: Caleb, isn't it great the rest of us in commercial
Speaker 3: media or having to cut costs and as you say,
Speaker 3: do more with less, Because of course we want to
Speaker 3: remain on air and we want to keep bringing you
Speaker 3: news and whatever. But that's the market that we operate in,
Speaker 3: not the ABC. They get the money that the government
Speaker 3: compulsorily takes from you and then do absolutely nothing with it.
Speaker 3: I mean, you would think that the ABC could stop
Speaker 3: for a minute and go, Okay, look, if we're having
Speaker 3: these major arrest in audiences, there must be something wrong with.
Speaker 4: The content, right.
Speaker 3: That's when people come to the ABC for. They want
Speaker 3: to watch things, they want to listen to things. Clearly
Speaker 3: they don't want to watch or listen what the ABC
Speaker 3: is putting out. And no wonder when you look at
Speaker 3: some of the stuff that they put out. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, they're spending money on people putting content on
Speaker 3: social media about furries and they've got a special social
Speaker 3: media page for LGBTIQ issues like stuff that is just
Speaker 3: not mainstream. As I've seen so many times before, and
Speaker 3: I'll say it again at the risk of repeating myself,
Speaker 3: the ABC does its best work in the regions and
Speaker 3: rural parts of Australia and that's what it ought to
Speaker 3: be focused on. There is an argument that the ABC
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily have to be worried about how many people
Speaker 3: are consuming its.
Speaker 5: Media as long as that media is.
Speaker 4: Of great quality and of great.
Speaker 3: Importance to people who can't get commercial media. Instead, what
Speaker 3: they are trying to do, and they've done in recent years,
Speaker 3: is centralized lots of stuff in the big cities, particularly
Speaker 3: Sydney and provide content to people who have access to
Speaker 3: a vast array of commercial media, which is why they're
Speaker 3: not consuming it because they can get it somewhere else.
Speaker 4: Give content to people who can't.
Speaker 5: Get it anywhere else.
Speaker 4: That's what the ABC is for.
Speaker 3: I just feel like we bash our heads up against
Speaker 3: a brick wall every time this comes up. It never
Speaker 3: changes and it will never change until someone has the
Speaker 3: guts to actually a minister, a communications minister. And we
Speaker 3: haven't seen anyone labor or liberal to say we need
Speaker 3: to seriously reform what the ABC is. They need to
Speaker 3: be an ABC for the modern age. But that doesn't
Speaker 3: mean going on TikTok, which increasingly seems to be what
Speaker 3: they do.
Speaker 6: And you think these people would have KPIs we the
Speaker 6: taxpayer fund them. What other business do you know that
Speaker 6: can return less than ten percent of their operating costs
Speaker 6: in terms of revenue less than ten percent and.
Speaker 7: Get budgeted more money for next year? You heard me right?
Speaker 6: So they've never had more money than they do now.
Speaker 6: Things are going very poorly. So what does our government
Speaker 6: do up.
Speaker 7: Their budget next year?
Speaker 6: They've got one point one nine to six instead of
Speaker 6: one point one three seven billion to play with. This
Speaker 6: is not a problem that throwing money at it will
Speaker 6: make it disappear.
Speaker 7: And what a year it's been for the ABC.
Speaker 6: Remember in June they had their bullying and and Sexual
Speaker 6: Harassment survey, which found twenty five percent of their employees
Speaker 6: were like I've been bullied, thirteen percent of them said
Speaker 6: that they had experienced sexually sexual harassment. Then in October
Speaker 6: they had their survey regarding racism. Only one called employee
Speaker 6: cultural and lingually diversified employees. Only one of them said
Speaker 6: I haven't experienced racism here at the ABC. And now
Speaker 6: we get to have a look at their numbers and
Speaker 6: it's an absolute abomination. And like you say, Caleb, is
Speaker 6: anyone at the ABC going maybe it's our content, because
Speaker 6: that's the only way you get views on TV, that's
Speaker 6: the only way you get people tuning into your radio stations,
Speaker 6: that's the only way you get readers online clicking on
Speaker 6: your content. Until they address that issue, this is just
Speaker 6: going to continue to slide. We've talked about the phenomena
Speaker 6: of podcasters and others.
Speaker 7: Again that's available in the regions.
Speaker 6: People are going elsewhere for readily available content. ABC can't
Speaker 6: keep up with those kind of outputs anymore.
Speaker 2: And of course if you listen to those at the ABC,
Speaker 2: the issue is not content, it's funding. They just need more.
Speaker 2: How much money would it take to fix the ABC?
Speaker 2: The answer just a little bit more.
Speaker 3: It's like the education Union, right, Like, the reason the
Speaker 3: education system is broken is because we don't have enough money. Well,
Speaker 3: we've been just throwing more and more and more and
Speaker 3: more and more and more money at it for twenty
Speaker 3: years and the results get worse.
Speaker 7: We've proving that theory for a very long time. Now.
Speaker 3: It's like that Simpsons meme, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: is it the kids that's the problem? No?
Speaker 4: No, are we the problem?
Speaker 5: Know the kids of the problem? Seriously, get your act
Speaker 5: in order.
Speaker 3: Speaking of spending a lot of money and not having
Speaker 3: a lot to show for it, why don't we talk
Speaker 3: about the great state of Victorian Now, Victoria, as we know,
Speaker 3: has the largest debt of any in the country. In fact,
Speaker 3: when compared to comparable jurisdictions around the world, it is
Speaker 3: one of the most indebted places in the world for
Speaker 3: its population size. I mean, seriously, one hundred and eighty
Speaker 3: eight billion dollars in net debt. They are currently projected
Speaker 3: to reach in twenty twenty six twenty seven financial year,
Speaker 3: but of course they'll have a budget review in December
Speaker 3: and it is strongly tipped that that will increase even further.
Speaker 3: Here was the Opposition leader, John Persuito on all of this.
Speaker 8: Today, we have the highest debt in the nation, we
Speaker 8: have the highest taxes in the nation, and what's worse,
Speaker 8: we have no transparency in the way Victorian's money is
Speaker 8: being spent in various types of programs, whether it's blowouts
Speaker 8: on major projects, whether it's the debarkle of the Commonwealth
Speaker 8: Games which were overseen by Premier de ciner Allen, or
Speaker 8: it's the misuse of contingency funds and treasurers advances. We're
Speaker 8: going to restore transparency, accountability and responsibility to the way
Speaker 8: Victoria's finances are reported.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 4: What he is describing there, lo and behold is actually
Speaker 4: a good idea.
Speaker 3: I can't believe that no one else has suggested this before.
Speaker 3: Less so can I believe that it's come out of
Speaker 3: the mouth of John Pursuto, one of the most ineffective
Speaker 3: liberal leaders in the country. But he has actually had
Speaker 3: a good idea, which is that there should be a
Speaker 3: website where the taxpayers of Victoria can go online and
Speaker 3: monitor how public money is being spent in real time. Yes,
Speaker 3: you would be able to go online and see exactly
Speaker 3: how many dollars are being spent by the government every
Speaker 3: day and what they are.
Speaker 4: Being spent on.
Speaker 3: What a revolutionary idea that we, the taxpayers who can
Speaker 3: pulsorily give our money to the government to spend it,
Speaker 3: would actually be able to see where they're spending it.
Speaker 3: When I read this today, I honestly was like, how
Speaker 3: has no one thought to do this before?
Speaker 2: This is the least impressive idea I have ever heard. Victoria,
Speaker 2: as you said, have got a net debt of one
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty eight billion dollars. For John Persudo, he's
Speaker 2: going to produce an app. That's right, you can go
Speaker 2: online and you can watch the decline of your state
Speaker 2: live on the internet. This is fantastic, and to be fair,
Speaker 2: Labor would have done this that we're just trying to
Speaker 2: figure out a way to tax people who went online
Speaker 2: to watch the decline. If you're going to fix the problem,
Speaker 2: then come up with some policies to cut spending, which
Speaker 2: is going to mean some very hard decisions and I
Speaker 2: defy anyone to convince me that John Pasudo has got
Speaker 2: the kahunas to make hard decisions on the finances. But
Speaker 2: we're going to get a website and you can go
Speaker 2: and you can log on and you can check out.
Speaker 7: Oh no, no, they're not going to get a website.
Speaker 6: I mean, being the opposition leader a the liberal opposition
Speaker 6: leader in Victoria is like being in IKEA.
Speaker 7: You are never getting out of there. Okay.
Speaker 6: So this is a great idea coming from an opposition
Speaker 6: leader who knows he will never be premier and therefore
Speaker 6: never have people tuning in too, said app to criticize
Speaker 6: he's government blowouts and all the spending and government waste
Speaker 6: that goes on with our hard earned taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 7: So this is a it sounds like a great idea.
Speaker 6: And to be fair, let's have a golf clap for
Speaker 6: John Pursudo for finally making a headline that isn't pertaining
Speaker 6: to him, throwing out a sitting m theme or deeming
Speaker 6: out of his party just for attending a pro women's
Speaker 6: rally on the steps of Parliament that was gate crashed
Speaker 6: by some whack job neo nazis that she had no
Speaker 6: knowledge of or anything to do with ever in her
Speaker 6: entire life. So thanks to finally making your headline that
Speaker 6: wasn't about your atrocious treatment of that woman, John Persudo.
Speaker 6: So in that case, golf clap. But otherwise this is
Speaker 6: never going to happen. Labor's not going to put it up.
Speaker 6: The limbs don't have the numbers to get it up.
Speaker 3: He's saying, if.
Speaker 2: A labor no longer rules in Victoria, the website doesn't
Speaker 2: fix the debt. The website about me. This reminds me
Speaker 2: of Grocery Watch. Like you know, the government now still
Speaker 2: have a website you can check grocery prices. It didn't
Speaker 2: change grocery prices, It just made you realize you couldn't afford.
Speaker 3: He has also proposed that they should bring back a
Speaker 3: debt limit in Victoria, which yes, I agree with that,
Speaker 3: and have it intergenerational report, which is of course what
Speaker 3: the Howard and Costello government did at a federal level
Speaker 3: many years ago, and went, hang on a minute, we
Speaker 3: have a problem in terms of debt now and what
Speaker 3: that means for people in the future.
Speaker 4: I think his aims are noble, but we shouldn't.
Speaker 3: Discount the possibility of Alan not being premier forever.
Speaker 5: I hope she's not premier forever.
Speaker 3: But some of the recent polling has shown there is
Speaker 3: a chance that the Libs could win an election in
Speaker 3: Victoria and I'm just glad to see him actually talking
Speaker 3: about something sense.
Speaker 9: What about this?
Speaker 2: What about an app where you can go online and
Speaker 2: see which Liberal MP is suing which other Liberal MP
Speaker 2: for defamation?
Speaker 7: You could do that on our taxpayer dollar.
Speaker 6: By the way, we're the one who's as well as
Speaker 6: all the inquiries and all the reviews that they have
Speaker 6: that they do absolutely nothing about but want to be
Speaker 6: seen to do something. One oh one politics is the
Speaker 6: less you intend to do about something, the more you've
Speaker 6: got to be seen talking about it and caring about it,
Speaker 6: so you can fool the masses into thinking you are
Speaker 6: or might do something about it. But the day Dan
Speaker 6: Andrews was re elected in Victoria was the day we
Speaker 6: all knew we will die before we see a liberal
Speaker 6: government in that state. You can quote me to South
Speaker 6: Australia now, where despite last year South Australia's top cop,
Speaker 6: the Police Commissioner Grant Stevens, being given a one hundred
Speaker 6: and one thousand dollar pay rise, it turns out the
Speaker 6: state doesn't have the money to equip everyday policemen with
Speaker 6: the essentials. They have started buying their own dash cams
Speaker 6: in their police cars in order to feel safer, to
Speaker 6: record what's going on around them as.
Speaker 7: They're doing the rounds.
Speaker 6: A quote from an anonymous police officer, always got to
Speaker 6: be anonymous.
Speaker 7: Can't be caught out blowing.
Speaker 6: The whistle on your own employer when it's the state.
Speaker 6: He says, a lot of officers are buying their own
Speaker 6: dash cams. They're spending their own money on equipment. It
Speaker 6: makes them feel safer. We notice a massive improvement in
Speaker 6: people's attitudes when they know they're being recorded. Opposition police
Speaker 6: spokesman Jack Battie spoke to this issue today. He said
Speaker 6: Labour's Police Minister Dan Kreagan seemingly expects top cops to
Speaker 6: pop into JBI Fi in their spare time and buy
Speaker 6: their own dash cams for our police vehicles. Dash Cams
Speaker 6: are a simple safety measure for police. We must do
Speaker 6: everything to protect those that protect us. Interestingly, also the
Speaker 6: South Australian Police Minister said, well, there's issues around using
Speaker 6: this kind of technology in police vehicles due to data
Speaker 6: storage and security issues and the legalities around that, Well,
Speaker 6: get through in charge of the law, buddy you. So
Speaker 6: if there's issues around that and that's why you're not
Speaker 6: adequately arming the police to do their jobs in a
Speaker 6: good way, look.
Speaker 7: No further than in the mirror. This is one of.
Speaker 6: Those stories we're constantly talking about, why on earth would
Speaker 6: you sign up to the police force.
Speaker 7: As far as I.
Speaker 6: Know, every single state is crying out for more police officers.
Speaker 6: The pay is not good, you don't get treated well,
Speaker 6: you're working way more hours than.
Speaker 7: You're usually rosted on.
Speaker 6: If their reports can be believed, and I certainly believe them,
Speaker 6: and now we learn simple things like this, a piece
Speaker 6: of equipment that a lot of everyday citizens have to
Speaker 6: feel safer in their own cars, our own police officers don't.
Speaker 3: Hang on this argument about we don't know about the
Speaker 3: legalities and the issues with privacy with collecting the footage.
Speaker 4: The police officers already have, but body.
Speaker 3: Can backlist right which they can activate at any time.
Speaker 3: So if it's okay for the police to collect body
Speaker 3: cam footage, why would it not be okay for them
Speaker 3: to collect dashcam footage.
Speaker 6: I think the difference is bodycam is obviously utilized in
Speaker 6: even if they do breathalyzers.
Speaker 7: I was breathalyzed recently.
Speaker 6: They've got their body cams on because it's a one
Speaker 6: on one interaction. So if you're going to swear at
Speaker 6: them or assault them in any way, it's captured on
Speaker 6: a body cam. A dash cam is different because it's
Speaker 6: constantly recording despite nobody doing anything.
Speaker 7: But people are innocently.
Speaker 6: Getting around in their everyday lives in their cars being recorded.
Speaker 3: But most South Wales and taxis have yeah, and a
Speaker 3: lot of dash cams have got a button on the
Speaker 3: side a bit like the body cam footage where you
Speaker 3: can press it and it will automatically take like the
Speaker 3: last twenty seconds of footage and then record like it
Speaker 3: doesn't keep every bit of footage it ever takes otherwise
Speaker 3: that had just run out of room to do it.
Speaker 5: I don't know how that's an argument at all. I mean,
Speaker 5: you go to JBBI.
Speaker 7: Naturally he needs to define defense.
Speaker 5: You go to jb High fight as these coppers seem
Speaker 5: to be.
Speaker 3: You get a dash cam for about one hundred bucks, right,
Speaker 3: and you said that the police commission of grund Stevens
Speaker 3: was given one hundred grand in a pay rise. Let's
Speaker 3: say they've got a thousand odd police cars in South Australia.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the exact number is. I know
Speaker 3: a few years ago they rolled out like a tablet
Speaker 3: iPad system in police cars and they fitted that to
Speaker 3: about six hundred and eighty police cars. And I'm assuming
Speaker 3: that's not the entire So let's say they've got a
Speaker 3: thousand police cars one hundred dollars a pop.
Speaker 4: That's one hundred.
Speaker 3: Grand, which is the same as the pay rise, and
Speaker 3: they can have every police vehicle in the state with
Speaker 3: a dash cam in it, like as if the government,
Speaker 3: the state government doesn't.
Speaker 4: Have one hundred grand blowing around, that's chump change.
Speaker 3: They'd blow one hundred and grand in five seconds flat
Speaker 3: if they were given the opportunity. It is such a
Speaker 3: basic thing. And the other argument they've run is well
Speaker 3: they've already got the body cams.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, a body cam's not.
Speaker 3: Much use if you want to get footage of someone
Speaker 3: going one hundred kilometers an hour through a fifty zone
Speaker 3: on the street, right, Because often what they come into
Speaker 3: trouble is they go off to court. Someone's elected to
Speaker 3: be prosecuted in court and then the cops are asked
Speaker 3: for the evidence and they're like, well, we don't actually
Speaker 3: have the physical evidence because there's no way to film it, right,
Speaker 3: so there is your opportunity to film it.
Speaker 4: Oh we couldn't possibly do.
Speaker 3: I just don't get how there is any argument to
Speaker 3: not have a DASH Canada Police.
Speaker 2: The only thing this does is it answers the question
Speaker 2: why are so many police resigning. Resignations are up fifty
Speaker 2: five percent in the South Australian Police Force in the
Speaker 2: last twelve months, which is why they're going to you know,
Speaker 2: the UK, New Zealand and Ireland to try to find
Speaker 2: people who want to work as a police officer. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure how successful that will be when they tell
Speaker 2: applicants that once you get a job in the South
Speaker 2: Australian Police you will need to go down to jbhi
Speaker 2: Fi and by yourself a DASH camp so that you
Speaker 2: can feel safe and protected staying in South Australia. The
Speaker 2: Federal Parliament has just passed legislation to permit a nuclear
Speaker 2: waste facility being established in Port Adelaide. That's in connection
Speaker 2: with the submarines that will operate out of there. The irony,
Speaker 2: of course is it's only a few months since the
Speaker 2: government decided not to pursue, having spent seven years prepping it.
Speaker 2: A nuclear waste facility in kimber in Regional South Australia.
Speaker 2: So you can't have a nuclear waste facility out in
Speaker 2: the boondocks now, No, we're going to put it right
Speaker 2: in the middle of suburbia in Adelaide instead. Richard Miles,
Speaker 2: speaking about the facility he's a defense minister, said submarine construction,
Speaker 2: test and commissioning activities planned for Osborne that's in Port
Speaker 2: Adelaide will generate small amounts of low level radioactive waste,
Speaker 2: including personal protective equipment. This low level radioactive waste will
Speaker 2: need to be managed and temporarily stored in a licensed facility.
Speaker 2: No immediate level waste or intermediate level waste or high
Speaker 2: level radioactive waste will be managed or stored in the facility.
Speaker 2: That's Richard Males, spokesperson speaking now this it's been a
Speaker 2: local petition of four thousand people complaining about this, saying
Speaker 2: we were promised submarine jobs, not nuclear waste. But I
Speaker 2: mean they're missing the point, aren't they, Liz That Hospitals, Universities,
Speaker 2: Lucas Heights reactor. Nuclear waste at the low level is
Speaker 2: stored in multiple places. Sterling in Wa has just been
Speaker 2: approved to store low level nuclear waste. But the point
Speaker 2: that I started with is the most ironic part of this.
Speaker 2: Just in August, the government said no, no, we can't have
Speaker 2: a nuclear waste facility out in sort of the regions
Speaker 2: of South Australia because an indigenous group, of course opposed
Speaker 2: it and said we will not have this, And so
Speaker 2: now you've got it right in the middle of suburbia. Ironically,
Speaker 2: a lot of the indigenous people who opposed the Kimbert
Speaker 2: nuclear facility actually live in suburban Adelaide.
Speaker 6: This is Backfvies spectacularly. But in terms of awareness, I
Speaker 6: don't think enough has been done to educate populations just
Speaker 6: how safe this is nowadays. I mean, we're still haunted
Speaker 6: about massive nuclear reactors that went off sixty odd years ago,
Speaker 6: and nuclear waste is always depicted in movies as being
Speaker 6: highly toxic, and it's usually some Russian spy jabbing someone
Speaker 6: with the tip of an umbrella or something, et cetera,
Speaker 6: and so on. Not enough is done to explain to
Speaker 6: them just how safe this is.
Speaker 7: In the twenty first century.
Speaker 6: When is the last time you heard about a nuclear
Speaker 6: waste dump having any kind of leak or being compromised.
Speaker 2: There was an episode of The Simpsons I saw.
Speaker 6: Which is which is where most Australians get.
Speaker 7: Their Labor Party.
Speaker 6: Yeah, with the eyes the fishes with the ten eyes
Speaker 6: and that kind of thing. And obviously the Labor Party
Speaker 6: hasn't helped either. They've really stoked that fear mongering because
Speaker 6: of course that is a very strong bastion of the
Speaker 6: Liberals campaigning for federal government talking up nuclear the benefits
Speaker 6: that will bring to the nation, and all late has
Speaker 6: been able to do in order to push back, and
Speaker 6: that is this really old.
Speaker 7: School fear mongering.
Speaker 6: The truth of the matter is anyone who's done any
Speaker 6: homework on nuclear.
Speaker 7: Waste, how it's stored, how.
Speaker 6: It's reduced, how it's disposed of here in the twenty
Speaker 6: first century, would have absolutely no concerns.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't have any concerns.
Speaker 6: If it was literally next door, because I've done my
Speaker 6: due diligence and that's where we're at nowadays. So even
Speaker 6: though for peace of mind, people would rather consider oh,
Speaker 6: well out in Kimber's that's away from ever it genuinely
Speaker 6: makes no difference.
Speaker 7: It makes no difference whatsoever.
Speaker 6: But I have a suggestion for a place where all
Speaker 6: nuclear waste in Australia should go. And I think if
Speaker 6: we took a poll, the nation would be on board
Speaker 6: camera camera. It is the where all nuclear waste belongs
Speaker 6: naturally or.
Speaker 3: In the first class cabin of a quantity flight person
Speaker 3: that the Prime Minister has gained a free before. I mean,
Speaker 3: I've written before that anyone who opposes a nuclear waste
Speaker 3: dump being built in Australia should refuse all nuclear medicine,
Speaker 3: don't go for any X rays. Where do you think
Speaker 3: this waste comes from? Right, Like, we're not just creating
Speaker 3: it for giggles. It is from primarily medical procedures like
Speaker 3: X rays, And of course it will be generated in
Speaker 3: the building of nuclear submarines. Now those nuclear submarines, we're
Speaker 3: only talking about the waste that will be generated in
Speaker 3: the production of the submarines. At this point, when we
Speaker 3: actually commission them and have them floating around in the water,
Speaker 3: they will generate high level nuclear waste which will have
Speaker 3: to go and we don't have an answer for that
Speaker 3: at all yet. But I just reckon anyone who lives
Speaker 3: in Port Adelaide, who opposed a nuclear waste dump being
Speaker 3: built in kimber in a totally geologically stable place that
Speaker 3: the locals all supported. That was far away from most
Speaker 3: of the locals. Now they've got it in their backyard
Speaker 3: and they got exactly what they deserve for opposing it
Speaker 3: in the first place.
Speaker 4: What did you think was.
Speaker 5: Going to happen?
Speaker 4: And by the way, even though.
Speaker 3: The federal government says that they will only have low
Speaker 3: level waste at this particular dump, the legislation that they
Speaker 3: have passed to allow the dump does not specify what
Speaker 3: level of waste can be put there.
Speaker 4: True for all purposes, they.
Speaker 3: Could put high level waste there one day watch this space,
Speaker 3: let's go.
Speaker 6: But as I said, that would still be absolutely perfect.
Speaker 6: Quote Liz Storer, you can take my word?
Speaker 2: Can I just say, Liz store has had a massive
Speaker 2: week on the late debate. You have said you would
Speaker 2: like to be removed from the electoral role on account
Speaker 2: of being a woman, and you'd like to live next
Speaker 2: door to a nuclear waste facility.
Speaker 7: I said what I said, I stand by.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, unfortunately for Liz, she rents if she actually owned
Speaker 3: property at the moment, she could just elect to have
Speaker 3: her property turned into a nuclear Waiste jump and make
Speaker 3: shd loads of money.
Speaker 6: I'll dig a basement and be like exactly, and we'd
Speaker 6: never see her on the Late Debate again because you'd
Speaker 6: have squillions and squillions and squillions of dollars do whatever
Speaker 6: the hell she wanted. Lit Hey da, if it means
Speaker 6: getting nuclear up and running in Australia, they can have
Speaker 6: my space for free.
Speaker 3: Let's go to the US now where you saw the
Speaker 3: other day, Donald Trump, of course did an interview with
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan on his podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience, which
Speaker 3: is one of the biggest podcasts in the world.
Speaker 5: And so the question has rightfully.
Speaker 3: Been asked, when is Kamala Harris going to do in
Speaker 3: appearance And it has nothing to do with the fact
Speaker 3: that Joe Rogan doesn't want her there. He has invited
Speaker 3: her to appear on the podcast, but she and her
Speaker 3: team have set down some ground rules about how it
Speaker 3: would operate. Now, keep in mind that Donald Trump went
Speaker 3: to Rogan's studio in Texas.
Speaker 5: He was interviewed for three.
Speaker 3: Hours, which is generally how long Rogan's podcast go for
Speaker 3: Nah not good enough for Kamala Harris, she must maintain control.
Speaker 3: Rogan said, for the record, the Harris campaign has not
Speaker 3: passed on doing the podcast. They offered a date for Tuesday,
Speaker 3: but I would have had to travel to her. I
Speaker 3: only wanted to do an hour. I strongly feel the
Speaker 3: best way to do it is in the studio in Austin.
Speaker 3: My sincere wish is to just have a nice conversation
Speaker 3: and get to know her as a human being. I
Speaker 3: really hope we can make it happen. He's tried to
Speaker 3: make it happen. He's made the offer and they've said no,
Speaker 3: it will only happen on her conditions.
Speaker 4: Well, why was it that Trump.
Speaker 3: Was unafraid to go to his studio, his territory and
Speaker 3: sit down and talk for three hours, but Kamala Harris won't.
Speaker 6: Hmm.
Speaker 4: I wonder why.
Speaker 3: Maybe because she couldn't fill in three hours of interview,
Speaker 3: Particularly knowing the way that Joe Rogan conducts his interviews.
Speaker 3: He doesn't go in there and let anyone get away
Speaker 3: with anything. It's a very conversational style of interview, right,
Speaker 3: and even more so than a formal, sit down, hard
Speaker 3: hitting interview. I think that is a space in which
Speaker 3: she would really struggle unless she's on friendly Tearror like
Speaker 3: that Call Her Daddy podcast that she did, because when
Speaker 3: you're asked to genuinely be you and you try to
Speaker 3: sell policies that you don't necessarily agree with, people see
Speaker 3: through it right away.
Speaker 4: She knows the danger.
Speaker 5: That there would be in going and doing.
Speaker 3: That podcast because she couldn't sit there for three hours
Speaker 3: and talk you know, about all and sundry like Donald
Speaker 3: Trump could, because she doesn't have a clue about all
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: And that's the problem. It's less of an interview and
Speaker 2: more of a conversation. And most politicians are really good
Speaker 2: with talking points. Well, Kamala Harris is a talking point machine.
Speaker 2: That's all she does. I was raised in a middle
Speaker 2: class family, and a three hour conversation is going to
Speaker 2: expose her because while Trump can explain himself, Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: is completely unable to explain herself. But the other interesting
Speaker 2: part about this, Liz, is that Kamala Harris really needs
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan right now. Ah, But Joe Rogan does not
Speaker 2: need her at all. Joe Rogan's podcast will continue successfully
Speaker 2: well after November, but Kamala harris may not, which is
Speaker 2: probably why politicians right around the world are so desperate
Speaker 2: to regulate online podcasts, blogs, social media because they no
Speaker 2: longer control the narrative. And Joe Rogan says, will you
Speaker 2: talk to me for three hours or you won't talk
Speaker 2: to me at all? And he's calling the shots, and
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan is like a what was he a school
Speaker 2: dropout who ended up imitating on UFC? He's dictating terms
Speaker 2: to the US Vice president Democrat candidate.
Speaker 6: To be clear, Joe Rogan has the most listened to
Speaker 6: podcast in the world. He gets millions and millions of
Speaker 6: people tuning in every single week for the most fascinating conversations.
Speaker 6: Like Caleb said, most of them are three hours long,
Speaker 6: so it's a long form conversation with some of the
Speaker 6: most famous.
Speaker 7: People on the planet.
Speaker 6: And Kamala could have really done with this, but her
Speaker 6: team knows better. When you have someone like Trump and
Speaker 6: jd Van see, their campaign is very smart. Trump and
Speaker 6: Jdevans have gone on a podcast spree. This is not
Speaker 6: the first podcast Trump has done. Certainly the most famous
Speaker 6: Jade Vance last week when on a podcast with theovon
Speaker 6: who is the most hilarious comedian? He's very sacrilegious, and
Speaker 6: so most of the time they just spent it laughing
Speaker 6: their heads off. But the amount of people who watch
Speaker 6: that on the Theovon podcast instead of Jdevans, I can't
Speaker 6: believe I was ever told by the mainstream media.
Speaker 7: That this guy was a weirdo. He's hilarious.
Speaker 6: He's just sitting around with Theovon talking for ages about
Speaker 6: releasing the Epstein client list and all these really interesting things.
Speaker 6: Kamala's team knows that she can't do this because how
Speaker 6: many times have we seen her, even in short form
Speaker 6: interviews on mainstream media like CNN, refer people to her
Speaker 6: website When she is asked about her policy, she'll be like, oh,
Speaker 6: I've got over eighty pages.
Speaker 7: On my website.
Speaker 6: I know I'm referring you to a website, but that's
Speaker 6: what you got to do. No, it's not because if
Speaker 6: you stand on principle and you have convictions about anything,
Speaker 6: and you haven't changed half of your policies, if not more,
Speaker 6: in order to run for president, you know exactly what
Speaker 6: you're going to say about any given topic. That's how
Speaker 6: they've been shown up once again.
Speaker 7: Trump and JD.
Speaker 6: Evans have been dancing through these podcasts having a whale
Speaker 6: of a time. Millions of people, not just Americans, people
Speaker 6: around the world have watched these and gone, these.
Speaker 7: Guys are lads. I really like them.
Speaker 6: They can really hold their own. The Kamala campaign has
Speaker 6: done the only thing that they could do in this situation,
Speaker 6: which is decline, by setting parameters that the new Rogan
Speaker 6: could never agree to.
Speaker 7: And it's.
Speaker 3: Oh, I've lost my train of thought. There, you've done
Speaker 3: me over, Liz. I was going to say something, but
Speaker 3: I not remembering what I was going to say. I'll
Speaker 3: give you a funny line that I'm sure I've used
Speaker 3: before that the only convictions Kamala Harris has are the ones.
Speaker 5: She achieved as a prosecutor.
Speaker 4: Speaking of going.
Speaker 3: Back to Kamala Harris, she went today to give a
Speaker 3: speech at the same location where Donald Trump gave his
Speaker 3: last speech before the capital was stormed on January sixteen,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. And of course, you know they try
Speaker 3: to say it was the insurrection it setha Now. She
Speaker 3: started off by saying, look, what we really need in
Speaker 3: America right now is to do away with the division.
Speaker 10: America. For too long, we have been consumed with too
Speaker 10: much division, chaos, and mutual distrust. And it can be
Speaker 10: easy then to forget a simple truth. It doesn't have
Speaker 10: to be this way. It doesn't have to be this way.
Speaker 10: It is time to stop pointing figures. We have to
Speaker 10: stop pointing fingers and start locking arms. It is time
Speaker 10: to turn the page on the drama and the conflict,
Speaker 10: the fear and division.
Speaker 3: The conflict, the fear of the division, it all has
Speaker 3: to go out of the window, which is why in
Speaker 3: the next breath she brought up the fake insurrection again.
Speaker 7: We know who Donald Trump is.
Speaker 10: He is the person who stood at this very spot
Speaker 10: nearly four years ago and sent an armed mob to
Speaker 10: the United States Capital to overturn the will of the
Speaker 10: people in a free and fair election.
Speaker 3: I mean, please, you cannot in the first instance. So
Speaker 3: we had to do away with the division and the
Speaker 3: fear and then say that Trump sent an armed mob
Speaker 3: to the Capitol even though he had plead with people
Speaker 3: to be peaceful. She is flat out lying and like
Speaker 3: much as we'll get to Waltz and all this stuff
Speaker 3: about the Trump being a Nazi in a minute, but
Speaker 3: they try to sell themselves. We can't have the division anymore.
Speaker 3: We've got a unite We've got to bring America back.
Speaker 3: But then they go straight to the grab bag. Trump
Speaker 3: is hitler, Trump tried to stage an insurrection, He's a fascist,
Speaker 3: he's a threat to democracy. I mean, that's a great
Speaker 3: version of just not having the division, isn't it.
Speaker 2: I mean it's just shameless. You know, We've got to
Speaker 2: stop pointing the finger. And then she went on to
Speaker 2: use terms like Trump is a petty tyrant, he's a
Speaker 2: want to be dictator, he's obsessed with revenge. I'll go
Speaker 2: to the White House with a to do list, He'll
Speaker 2: go to the White House with a to get you list.
Speaker 2: It's just absolutely shameless, and they don't even pretend or apologize.
Speaker 7: But that's all they've got.
Speaker 6: And I tell you who hasn't gotten Kamala Harris's new
Speaker 6: memo about oh, we're going to clamp.
Speaker 7: Down on the divisive stuff.
Speaker 6: Now we are the UNITEDS and we are bringing thee
Speaker 6: together and that's our message to the American people. Her
Speaker 6: VP running mate Tim Waltz does not seem to have
Speaker 6: gotten this change of heart memo from the Harris Biden administration,
Speaker 6: because here he is earlier this week, same old stick,
Speaker 6: comparing Trump's Madison Garden rally, which was ginormous in New York,
Speaker 6: once again comparing it to a Hitler rally because he
Speaker 6: once had a rally in Madison Square Gardens too.
Speaker 9: Donald Trump has descended into madness over the last few weeks.
Speaker 9: And I think some of you don't miss on this.
Speaker 9: Go do your google on this. Donald Trump's got this
Speaker 9: big rally going at Madison Square Garden. There's a direct
Speaker 9: parallel to a big rally that happened in the mid
Speaker 9: nineteen thirties at Madison Square Garden. And don't think that
Speaker 9: he doesn't know for one second exactly what they're doing there.
Speaker 6: Speaking of descending into madness, this is what the.
Speaker 7: Dems have come to.
Speaker 6: It's like, oh, do you drink water? You know who
Speaker 6: else strength water?
Speaker 7: Hitler? That is how desperate they are.
Speaker 6: That is how grasping at straws this campaign has become.
Speaker 6: Now after the Madison Square Garden rally, Tim Waltz was
Speaker 6: asked again, do you still back that up? Now that
Speaker 6: the rally is done and dusted, Nothing bad happened. Plenty
Speaker 6: of Jews were in attendance, people of all kinds of
Speaker 6: shapes and colors and nationalities that certainly would not have
Speaker 6: attended a Nazi rally.
Speaker 7: Were there?
Speaker 6: It was a packed house at this rally. Do you
Speaker 6: want to maybe reconsider your comments?
Speaker 7: You stand by the comparison, though, to a Nazi rally.
Speaker 9: Look the rally. You saw it for yourself. I'll let
Speaker 9: the American public make the decision of what they saw.
Speaker 9: What about you, though, So I know what I saw,
Speaker 9: and I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 6: I know what I saw, and it was obviously a
Speaker 6: Nazi rally, like I said.
Speaker 7: It would be.
Speaker 6: So Hitler wasn't actually at this rally all those many
Speaker 6: years ago, but there was a Nazi rally that place at.
Speaker 7: Madison Square Gardens.
Speaker 6: And that is how these guys are running with this nonsense.
Speaker 6: Well it's a copy paste scenario. I mean, you've seen
Speaker 6: it there for yourself. Couldn't back it up with a
Speaker 6: single example of how this might have had anything to
Speaker 6: do with or resemble in any way said Nazi rally.
Speaker 6: He just says, well, I know what I saw, and
Speaker 6: I'm sure people watching saw it too, and we're supposed
Speaker 6: to know what he's referring tonight.
Speaker 3: I ask you, James, you're a big fan of Billy Joel. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Billy Joel has performed at Madison Square Garden, has he not?
Speaker 2: Which really worries me. Was that a Nazi rally? I've
Speaker 2: seen the New York Knicks play at Madison Square Gardens
Speaker 2: the Nazi rally.
Speaker 6: They drink water because Hitler drank water.
Speaker 2: But I mean, speak of people not getting the memoy.
Speaker 2: It gets even worse, right as if whilst talking about
Speaker 2: this being a Nazi party at Madison Square Garden, then
Speaker 2: Joe Biden ups the ante even further and literally calls
Speaker 2: half the country garbage.
Speaker 9: Puerto Rico, where I'm in my home state of Delaware
Speaker 9: for good, decent, honorable people.
Speaker 10: The only garbage I see floating down there is just orders.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 2: Of course, Donald Trump had a brilliant retort to that.
Speaker 1: Remember Hillary, she said deplorable and then she said irredeemable. Right,
Speaker 1: but she said deplorable. That didn't work out. Garbage, I
Speaker 1: think is worse, right. But he doesn't know. You have
Speaker 1: to please forgive him, Please forgive him, for he not
Speaker 1: knoweth what he said these people. It's terrible, terrible, terrible
Speaker 1: to say a thing like that. But he really doesn't know,
Speaker 1: he really honestly, he doesn't. And I'm convinced that he
Speaker 1: likes me more than he likes Kamala.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump being very gracious there, Joe Biden ends fifty
Speaker 2: years in public life by describing half the country as garbage.
Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break. When we come back,
Speaker 2: we'll look at what's making us tomorrow, Including Anthony Albaneze.
Speaker 2: He tries to explain those count to upgrades. His explanation
Speaker 2: only serves to raise more questions. That's coming up in
Speaker 2: just a moment. Welcome back. Well, let's look at what's
Speaker 2: making news tomorrow. Caleb and Liz Anthony Albanese's quantus relationship
Speaker 2: has been used for a few days, and it's going
Speaker 2: to be news again tomorrow.
Speaker 6: It is so easy to put these things to bead.
Speaker 6: Just say sorry, own the mistake, instead of waiting five
Speaker 6: days to give a carefully worded response that answers nothing
Speaker 6: but no. That's what his team has decided to go with.
Speaker 6: The splash reads no call to Joyce seeking upgrade Pim's
Speaker 6: carefully worded defense or should we say lack They're off.
Speaker 6: Anthony Albanezi has ruled out ever having called Alan Joyce
Speaker 6: to seek a flight upgrade in a carefully worded statement,
Speaker 6: issued five days after the Prime Minister was embroiled in
Speaker 6: controversy over whether he used his relationship with the former
Speaker 6: Quantus chief executive for personal gain and made decisions in
Speaker 6: government that benefited the airline.
Speaker 7: It's ruled out I never called him.
Speaker 6: Doesn't mean you didn't text him, doesn't mean you didn't
Speaker 6: email him, doesn't mean you didn't send a carrier pigeon
Speaker 6: or get one of your staff to call one of
Speaker 6: his staff. I mean, it really clarifies absolutely nothing.
Speaker 5: But it's not a matter of who he called.
Speaker 4: It's a matter of whether he called anyone at all.
Speaker 3: Right, we're not talking although actually I was going to
Speaker 3: say we're not talking about with or not he received freebies,
Speaker 3: because Paul outlined at the beginning of his program tonight
Speaker 3: how even if he had accepted unsolicited freebies when he
Speaker 3: was Transport Minister, that could be a breach of the
Speaker 3: ministerial coast. Yes, but a lot of this has centered
Speaker 3: around whether or not he solicited freebes from Quantus. It
Speaker 3: doesn't matter whether he spoke to Alan Joyce or anyone
Speaker 3: else at Quantas. And you will note he has not
Speaker 3: denied ever soliciting a freebie from Quantus. All he has
Speaker 3: denied is calling Alan Joe to get a freebie from Quantus.
Speaker 3: He could have put out a statement and say I
Speaker 3: have never contacted anyone from Quantus to ask for an upgrade.
Speaker 3: It's all he had to say, I've never done it.
Speaker 3: It would put it to bed. I mean, of course
Speaker 3: then we'd want the receipts and.
Speaker 6: That he has his staff anyone that that would.
Speaker 4: Put it to bed. So why has he not said that?
Speaker 4: Is the first question.
Speaker 3: And I think the other thing as well that we
Speaker 3: haven't talked about as much, but I think is really
Speaker 3: important in all of this is it's one thing for
Speaker 3: politicians to receive or solicit freebies, but it is this
Speaker 3: particular industry, the airline industry, over which the federal government
Speaker 3: has so much control, and as a result of that control,
Speaker 3: can decide, in effect, how much you and I pay
Speaker 3: for flights. And what we're talking about here is a
Speaker 3: transport minister allegedly soliciting cheaper flights than he would otherwise
Speaker 3: pay for, while also then making decisions that can affect
Speaker 3: how much you and I pay for a flight. That's
Speaker 3: the problem here, made It's got nothing to do with
Speaker 3: whether you've got a free be out of quantas. We
Speaker 3: know lots of politicians have had a free be out
Speaker 3: of quantas. It's whether you asked for it while you
Speaker 3: had control over that market.
Speaker 4: It affects us. It's not just about whether.
Speaker 5: You've got a couple of free drinks in the air.
Speaker 3: It actually affects you and me because we pay certain
Speaker 3: prices for flights based on how many operators there are
Speaker 3: in the market and who decides is in the market.
Speaker 5: The Transport Minister that.
Speaker 2: The other contrast that was really interesting today was so
Speaker 2: you've got Anthoni Albanzi saying I never called Allan Joyce,
Speaker 2: which is too clever by half. And then you've got
Speaker 2: former Prime Minister Tony Abbott saying I declined the offer
Speaker 2: of an upgrade, saying you know what, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to receive that because it would be inappropriate. That's what
Speaker 2: Anthony Albaneze should have done in the first place, if
Speaker 2: it was offered. Of course, the suggestion is he solicited.
Speaker 2: But for this to have gone on for five days ah,
Speaker 2: And now finally a statement has been put out and
Speaker 2: the statement is clearly very very careful, using limited and
Speaker 2: very specific language so as not to get themselves into trouble.
Speaker 2: But of course it's just created more trouble now and
Speaker 2: it's on the front page of The Australian tomorrow and
Speaker 2: I suspect this will not be the final front page
Speaker 2: article on this topic.
Speaker 6: Well that's what you're doing by not putting it to bed.
Speaker 6: Where is this guy's PR team?
Speaker 4: Just kill it?
Speaker 7: Just kill it.
Speaker 6: There's no other way to do it, but accept responsibility
Speaker 6: for what clearly went on to.
Speaker 7: The second splash on the front of.
Speaker 6: The ODDS pig headed know it Alls, adding insult to illness.
Speaker 6: Victorian's concerned about COVID nineteen lockdowns were branded pig headed
Speaker 6: know it Alls in a mystery email the Allen government
Speaker 6: has been ordered to release after losing an eighteen month
Speaker 6: fight to keep it secret.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean.
Speaker 6: Like the report out of Victoria hasn't been damning enough
Speaker 6: and like we didn't know it would be.
Speaker 7: We now find out there was name calling involved. Why
Speaker 7: fit in.
Speaker 6: An eighteen month fight as well to get emails that
Speaker 6: pertained to these decisions which affected thousands and thousands millions
Speaker 6: of Victorians And now we get to read one and
Speaker 6: your name calling people for railing against the longest lockdown
Speaker 6: in the world. That's what these people really think of.
Speaker 7: You don't forget that.
Speaker 2: Can I just say we were called a lot worse
Speaker 2: by various state police ministers, state premiers, and state health
Speaker 2: chief officials. But that the hilarious part of this story
Speaker 2: is for eighteen months they fought to keep this email
Speaker 2: secret because they thought it would be contrary to the
Speaker 2: public interest to I love that line, So it would
Speaker 2: hurt our feelings too much if we read that they
Speaker 2: were calling us pigheaded.
Speaker 5: No at all.
Speaker 4: And it's also.
Speaker 3: Worth noting that these emails were between the state government
Speaker 3: and a research firm that they were going to to
Speaker 3: obviously ask about public sentiment about what the government was doing,
Speaker 3: because as we know, so many of these decisions during
Speaker 3: COVID were not about health.
Speaker 4: They were political.
Speaker 3: Decisions, and in those dealings, well, you were pig headed.
Speaker 3: No it alls, that's exactly what Daniel Andrews and his
Speaker 3: government thought of you. Let's go to the Cam's post now,
Speaker 3: where there's another equally ridiculous story, Marathon deformation battle. This
Speaker 3: thing went on for about five years. Eanes's defendants ordered
Speaker 3: to pay five hundred k Jibber Jabber bust great headline.
Speaker 3: A lengthy defamation battle over a cartoon depicting an LGAQ
Speaker 3: boss that's the Local Government Association of Queensland as Jabba
Speaker 3: the Hut and associated posts has ended with a court
Speaker 3: ordering the payment of more than five hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 3: in damages. Now we're talking about a former MP in
Speaker 3: Queensland who is now a counselor, who put up a
Speaker 3: cartoon on line depicting this boss from the LGAQ as
Speaker 3: Jabba the Hut and basically suggesting that he had been
Speaker 3: involved in some sort of corrupt conduct. He then went
Speaker 3: on to post thirty other posts in which the bloke
Speaker 3: was not named, but the court has ruled there was
Speaker 3: an obvious connection between those posts and the Jabba the
Speaker 3: Hut cartoon. Now, for heaven's sake, I understand that the
Speaker 3: LGAQ boss might be aggrieved that an XMP, now a counselor,
Speaker 3: put something on social media depicting him as Jabba the
Speaker 3: Hat that suggested he might have done something corrupt? Is
Speaker 3: that worth five hundred thousand dollars? I suspect not. And
Speaker 3: I tell you what if I were the boss of
Speaker 3: the LGAQ, I would be really upset. As we were
Speaker 3: talking about earlier James that the judge in this case
Speaker 3: actually found that when the boss rocked up to court
Speaker 3: there were obvious physical similarity.
Speaker 4: Between him and jab of the Hut.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I think we might have an image
Speaker 2: of Jabba the Hut for viewers who aren't familiar with
Speaker 2: what we're talking about. He's a Star Wars character associated
Speaker 2: with corruption. That was the premise for the defamation thing.
Speaker 2: My favorite part about this story is that one of
Speaker 2: the defendants who's now been ordered to pay up right
Speaker 2: is a former Greens MP, Rod Pine. He was interviewed
Speaker 2: in the Cans Posts, so he's been ordered to pay
Speaker 2: money right. This is what he says. He said he
Speaker 2: could not afford to pay the damages because he was
Speaker 2: a socialist quote and not really into the accumulation of
Speaker 2: wealth to be honest.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 6: All I know is any cartoonists out there, I need
Speaker 6: you to draw me as a depiction of Jabba the Hut.
Speaker 7: I would love half a lazy million dollars.
Speaker 6: I mean, someone, please just paint me, draw me however
Speaker 6: you like, in a really, really unflattering light.
Speaker 4: I beg you.
Speaker 2: Where to go to a break, will we come back
Speaker 2: a US court us to rule theph are people. That's
Speaker 2: coming up at a moment.
Speaker 4: About jebb the Heart.
Speaker 2: Welcome back. Well, the animal rights group in the US
Speaker 2: wants to free five elephants from a Colorado zoo. So
Speaker 2: they've gone to the Supreme Court arguing that the court
Speaker 2: should rule these elephants are persons deserving of human rights.
Speaker 2: They say that if the elephants you can see them there,
Speaker 2: have human rights, then they deserve emancipation as slaves would
Speaker 2: be emancipated, or as women in abuse of marriages. Now,
Speaker 2: what's funny about this story is that the US Supreme
Speaker 2: Court Justice Melissa Hart, orso the Colorado Supreme Court Justice
Speaker 2: Melissa Hart, she has declined to rule that these elephants
Speaker 2: are persons. But this is her reason. She said, if
Speaker 2: I ruled that these elephants of persons deserving of freedom,
Speaker 2: what does that mean for the cats and dogs of America?
Speaker 2: They'll all be demanding to be emancipated.
Speaker 3: Right across want to be emancipated from the people of Springfield, Ohio.
Speaker 3: All I can say for the people who've run this
Speaker 3: case is that they are a bunch of dumbos.
Speaker 6: Well, trust me, I've got a master's degree in human
Speaker 6: rights and there were people in my classes who would
Speaker 6: have absolutely agreed with this case and said that the
Speaker 6: elephant should be released. Well, the British artesianal cheese community
Speaker 6: are reeling after what they are calling the Great Cheese
Speaker 6: Heist of twenty twenty four. Get this, Some crims have
Speaker 6: broken into a major cheese distributor and stolen thousands of
Speaker 6: pounds of posh cheddar. Here's famous cook Jamie Oliver, known
Speaker 6: to everyone man who needs no introduction, just.
Speaker 7: Being like, well, hang in a minute, what are your
Speaker 7: flogs going to do with that much cheese?
Speaker 11: One of the best cheddar cheese in the world has
Speaker 11: been stolen. Twenty two tonsworth has been stolen from some
Speaker 11: I don't know robbers that basically pretended to be a
Speaker 11: French super market and basically done Niel's Yard dairy over.
Speaker 11: I mean, I don't know what they're going to do
Speaker 11: with it, really, I mean, are they going to like
Speaker 11: unpeel it with the cloth and then cut it, cut
Speaker 11: the skins off and grate it and get rid of it.
Speaker 11: In the fast food industry, in the commercial industry, I
Speaker 11: don't know. I mean, it seems like a really weird
Speaker 11: thing to Nick.
Speaker 7: That's a lot of cheese. Do you know a lot
Speaker 7: of cheese lovers that you're going to? Howk it on Facebook? Marketplace?
Speaker 7: What's the game here?
Speaker 3: Well, don't look in my garage for the next few days,
Speaker 3: would be my advice.
Speaker 4: I could get through that much cheese.
Speaker 3: Like, if I thought I could pull that crime off,
Speaker 3: I reckon I would do it, and I would have
Speaker 3: no trouble getting through that amount of cheese.
Speaker 2: Well, on that note, that's it from us, but don't
Speaker 2: go anywhere. Coming up in just a moment is the
Speaker 2: Rina pinnaheesho. Stay tuned.