WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 30 October 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:00.600 Lately. 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:07.800 Welcome to the late base, Thanks for joining us. I'm 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.039 James Macpherson, with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond coming up. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.600 A US court asked to declare elephants to be persons 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.479 deserving of human rights. But wait until you hear the 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:21.200 reason the judge declined to grant the request. We'll get 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:23.520 to that a bit later. Plus we'll look at what's 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:27.800 making news in tomorrow's papers. Anthony Albanezi releases a statement 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:32.159 supposed to clarify his Quantus upgrade situation, but it only 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.920 serves to raise more questions, and Victorians who dared to 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:40.400 question Dan Andrews's COVID response will labeled pigheaded. Know it 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.800 alls in government emails. All of that a little later, 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.840 But first you would have heard successful businesses boast about 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.960 the fact they were able to do more with less. Well, 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.400 you'd never accluse the ABC of being a successful business, 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.760 and they've reversed that adage in their annual report, boasting 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.639 they've done less than their ever done before, with more 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:05.120 of your money than they've ever had before. Despite receiving 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.959 funding of one point one billion dollars last financial year, 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.840 the ABC's total audience dropped by six hundred and seventy 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:17.600 thousand people a week on average. But it's even worse 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:21.800 than that. According to their annual report, they still, despite 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:25.120 receiving one point one billion dollars of your money, have 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.399 budget challenges. It goes on to say the ABC operated 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.560 within its total sources of funds and revenue from government 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.640 for the twenty twenty three to twenty four financial year 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:39.640 recording get this, a minor technical operating deficit of two 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.480 point two million dollars. So oh, it's the most money 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.759 they've ever had, but the audience is declining and they're 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:50.280 losing money. And to add salt to the wound, outgoing 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:54.600 manager Director David Anderson was paid one million dollars to 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:56.680 oversee this abject failure. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.960 Caleb, isn't it great the rest of us in commercial 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.800 media or having to cut costs and as you say, 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.720 do more with less, Because of course we want to 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:08.680 remain on air and we want to keep bringing you 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.760 news and whatever. But that's the market that we operate in, 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:15.040 not the ABC. They get the money that the government 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.920 compulsorily takes from you and then do absolutely nothing with it. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.680 I mean, you would think that the ABC could stop 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.760 for a minute and go, Okay, look, if we're having 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:28.600 these major arrest in audiences, there must be something wrong with. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:29.760 The content, right. 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.880 That's when people come to the ABC for. They want 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.520 to watch things, they want to listen to things. Clearly 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.200 they don't want to watch or listen what the ABC 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.320 is putting out. And no wonder when you look at 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:41.760 some of the stuff that they put out. I mean, 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.600 you know, they're spending money on people putting content on 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:48.760 social media about furries and they've got a special social 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:52.800 media page for LGBTIQ issues like stuff that is just 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:56.120 not mainstream. As I've seen so many times before, and 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.760 I'll say it again at the risk of repeating myself, 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:02.480 the ABC does its best work in the regions and 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.240 rural parts of Australia and that's what it ought to 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.360 be focused on. There is an argument that the ABC 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:12.600 doesn't necessarily have to be worried about how many people 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:13.799 are consuming its. 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.280 Media as long as that media is. 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.600 Of great quality and of great. 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:23.040 Importance to people who can't get commercial media. Instead, what 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.519 they are trying to do, and they've done in recent years, 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:29.359 is centralized lots of stuff in the big cities, particularly 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:33.440 Sydney and provide content to people who have access to 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.119 a vast array of commercial media, which is why they're 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.760 not consuming it because they can get it somewhere else. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.000 Give content to people who can't. 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:41.680 Get it anywhere else. 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.600 That's what the ABC is for. 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.520 I just feel like we bash our heads up against 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.360 a brick wall every time this comes up. It never 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:53.000 changes and it will never change until someone has the 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:57.160 guts to actually a minister, a communications minister. And we 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:01.160 haven't seen anyone labor or liberal to say we need 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.640 to seriously reform what the ABC is. They need to 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.640 be an ABC for the modern age. But that doesn't 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.360 mean going on TikTok, which increasingly seems to be what 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:10.680 they do. 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.120 And you think these people would have KPIs we the 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:18.479 taxpayer fund them. What other business do you know that 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:23.560 can return less than ten percent of their operating costs 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.920 in terms of revenue less than ten percent and. 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:31.160 Get budgeted more money for next year? You heard me right? 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.400 So they've never had more money than they do now. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.080 Things are going very poorly. So what does our government 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:39.680 do up. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.800 Their budget next year? 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.159 They've got one point one nine to six instead of 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:49.279 one point one three seven billion to play with. This 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:52.520 is not a problem that throwing money at it will 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:53.880 make it disappear. 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.520 And what a year it's been for the ABC. 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:01.000 Remember in June they had their bullying and and Sexual 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:05.159 Harassment survey, which found twenty five percent of their employees 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.240 were like I've been bullied, thirteen percent of them said 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:12.799 that they had experienced sexually sexual harassment. Then in October 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:18.400 they had their survey regarding racism. Only one called employee 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:24.239 cultural and lingually diversified employees. Only one of them said 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:29.400 I haven't experienced racism here at the ABC. And now 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.120 we get to have a look at their numbers and 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:36.960 it's an absolute abomination. And like you say, Caleb, is 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:41.359 anyone at the ABC going maybe it's our content, because 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:45.400 that's the only way you get views on TV, that's 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.760 the only way you get people tuning into your radio stations, 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:52.080 that's the only way you get readers online clicking on 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:56.760 your content. Until they address that issue, this is just 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.480 going to continue to slide. We've talked about the phenomena 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.839 of podcasters and others. 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:04.960 Again that's available in the regions. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:10.880 People are going elsewhere for readily available content. ABC can't 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.480 keep up with those kind of outputs anymore. 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:16.880 And of course if you listen to those at the ABC, 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.080 the issue is not content, it's funding. They just need more. 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.000 How much money would it take to fix the ABC? 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.279 The answer just a little bit more. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.719 It's like the education Union, right, Like, the reason the 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.080 education system is broken is because we don't have enough money. Well, 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:32.680 we've been just throwing more and more and more and 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:34.400 more and more and more money at it for twenty 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.359 years and the results get worse. 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.920 We've proving that theory for a very long time. Now. 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.240 It's like that Simpsons meme, and it's like, you know, 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.240 is it the kids that's the problem? No? 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:46.960 No, are we the problem? 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.920 Know the kids of the problem? Seriously, get your act 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:50.320 in order. 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.640 Speaking of spending a lot of money and not having 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.200 a lot to show for it, why don't we talk 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.320 about the great state of Victorian Now, Victoria, as we know, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:01.560 has the largest debt of any in the country. In fact, 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:05.919 when compared to comparable jurisdictions around the world, it is 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:10.440 one of the most indebted places in the world for 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:14.320 its population size. I mean, seriously, one hundred and eighty 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:18.200 eight billion dollars in net debt. They are currently projected 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.720 to reach in twenty twenty six twenty seven financial year, 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.200 but of course they'll have a budget review in December 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:28.000 and it is strongly tipped that that will increase even further. 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.120 Here was the Opposition leader, John Persuito on all of this. 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.960 Today, we have the highest debt in the nation, we 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.480 have the highest taxes in the nation, and what's worse, 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:42.120 we have no transparency in the way Victorian's money is 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.640 being spent in various types of programs, whether it's blowouts 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:49.040 on major projects, whether it's the debarkle of the Commonwealth 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.600 Games which were overseen by Premier de ciner Allen, or 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:56.920 it's the misuse of contingency funds and treasurers advances. We're 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:02.480 going to restore transparency, accountability and responsibility to the way 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.720 Victoria's finances are reported. 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:06.360 Now. 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.560 What he is describing there, lo and behold is actually 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:10.520 a good idea. 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.720 I can't believe that no one else has suggested this before. 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:15.960 Less so can I believe that it's come out of 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.960 the mouth of John Pursuto, one of the most ineffective 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.360 liberal leaders in the country. But he has actually had 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.800 a good idea, which is that there should be a 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.800 website where the taxpayers of Victoria can go online and 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:33.440 monitor how public money is being spent in real time. Yes, 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:37.480 you would be able to go online and see exactly 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.439 how many dollars are being spent by the government every 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.400 day and what they are. 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:44.080 Being spent on. 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:49.000 What a revolutionary idea that we, the taxpayers who can 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.240 pulsorily give our money to the government to spend it, 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.160 would actually be able to see where they're spending it. 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:58.040 When I read this today, I honestly was like, how 0:08:58.080 --> 0:08:59.960 has no one thought to do this before? 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:04.040 This is the least impressive idea I have ever heard. Victoria, 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:05.640 as you said, have got a net debt of one 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.959 hundred and eighty eight billion dollars. For John Persudo, he's 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.199 going to produce an app. That's right, you can go 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.960 online and you can watch the decline of your state 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.679 live on the internet. This is fantastic, and to be fair, 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:19.400 Labor would have done this that we're just trying to 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.960 figure out a way to tax people who went online 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:25.280 to watch the decline. If you're going to fix the problem, 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.640 then come up with some policies to cut spending, which 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.080 is going to mean some very hard decisions and I 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.080 defy anyone to convince me that John Pasudo has got 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.960 the kahunas to make hard decisions on the finances. But 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.920 we're going to get a website and you can go 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.160 and you can log on and you can check out. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.880 Oh no, no, they're not going to get a website. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:49.160 I mean, being the opposition leader a the liberal opposition 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:51.840 leader in Victoria is like being in IKEA. 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.160 You are never getting out of there. Okay. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.280 So this is a great idea coming from an opposition 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.559 leader who knows he will never be premier and therefore 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:04.240 never have people tuning in too, said app to criticize 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:08.640 he's government blowouts and all the spending and government waste 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.360 that goes on with our hard earned taxpayer dollars. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:16.040 So this is a it sounds like a great idea. 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.880 And to be fair, let's have a golf clap for 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:23.080 John Pursudo for finally making a headline that isn't pertaining 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.120 to him, throwing out a sitting m theme or deeming 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.559 out of his party just for attending a pro women's 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.800 rally on the steps of Parliament that was gate crashed 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.400 by some whack job neo nazis that she had no 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.080 knowledge of or anything to do with ever in her 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.320 entire life. So thanks to finally making your headline that 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:47.319 wasn't about your atrocious treatment of that woman, John Persudo. 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:51.160 So in that case, golf clap. But otherwise this is 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.320 never going to happen. Labor's not going to put it up. 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.040 The limbs don't have the numbers to get it up. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.400 He's saying, if. 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.440 A labor no longer rules in Victoria, the website doesn't 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.960 fix the debt. The website about me. This reminds me 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.880 of Grocery Watch. Like you know, the government now still 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.079 have a website you can check grocery prices. It didn't 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.400 change grocery prices, It just made you realize you couldn't afford. 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.800 He has also proposed that they should bring back a 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.920 debt limit in Victoria, which yes, I agree with that, 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.760 and have it intergenerational report, which is of course what 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:30.200 the Howard and Costello government did at a federal level 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.360 many years ago, and went, hang on a minute, we 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.400 have a problem in terms of debt now and what 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.240 that means for people in the future. 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.880 I think his aims are noble, but we shouldn't. 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.680 Discount the possibility of Alan not being premier forever. 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:45.480 I hope she's not premier forever. 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:47.920 But some of the recent polling has shown there is 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.480 a chance that the Libs could win an election in 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.400 Victoria and I'm just glad to see him actually talking 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:54.240 about something sense. 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:54.760 What about this? 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:56.400 What about an app where you can go online and 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.080 see which Liberal MP is suing which other Liberal MP 0:11:59.200 --> 0:11:59.760 for defamation? 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:03.360 You could do that on our taxpayer dollar. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.000 By the way, we're the one who's as well as 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.600 all the inquiries and all the reviews that they have 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.840 that they do absolutely nothing about but want to be 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:14.120 seen to do something. One oh one politics is the 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.839 less you intend to do about something, the more you've 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:20.080 got to be seen talking about it and caring about it, 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.360 so you can fool the masses into thinking you are 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.240 or might do something about it. But the day Dan 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.080 Andrews was re elected in Victoria was the day we 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.800 all knew we will die before we see a liberal 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:36.720 government in that state. You can quote me to South 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:41.360 Australia now, where despite last year South Australia's top cop, 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:45.680 the Police Commissioner Grant Stevens, being given a one hundred 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.880 and one thousand dollar pay rise, it turns out the 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:54.280 state doesn't have the money to equip everyday policemen with 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:58.880 the essentials. They have started buying their own dash cams 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:03.360 in their police cars in order to feel safer, to 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.280 record what's going on around them as. 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:07.880 They're doing the rounds. 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.880 A quote from an anonymous police officer, always got to 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:11.600 be anonymous. 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:13.520 Can't be caught out blowing. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.040 The whistle on your own employer when it's the state. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:18.559 He says, a lot of officers are buying their own 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:22.120 dash cams. They're spending their own money on equipment. It 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:25.600 makes them feel safer. We notice a massive improvement in 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:30.560 people's attitudes when they know they're being recorded. Opposition police 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:34.080 spokesman Jack Battie spoke to this issue today. He said 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:38.520 Labour's Police Minister Dan Kreagan seemingly expects top cops to 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:42.360 pop into JBI Fi in their spare time and buy 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:46.120 their own dash cams for our police vehicles. Dash Cams 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.440 are a simple safety measure for police. We must do 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:55.840 everything to protect those that protect us. Interestingly, also the 0:13:55.880 --> 0:14:00.840 South Australian Police Minister said, well, there's issues around using 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:04.760 this kind of technology in police vehicles due to data 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:09.000 storage and security issues and the legalities around that, Well, 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:13.080 get through in charge of the law, buddy you. So 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:16.960 if there's issues around that and that's why you're not 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.320 adequately arming the police to do their jobs in a 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.200 good way, look. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.800 No further than in the mirror. This is one of. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.840 Those stories we're constantly talking about, why on earth would 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.240 you sign up to the police force. 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:31.440 As far as I. 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:36.200 Know, every single state is crying out for more police officers. 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.640 The pay is not good, you don't get treated well, 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.640 you're working way more hours than. 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:42.880 You're usually rosted on. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.160 If their reports can be believed, and I certainly believe them, 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:50.240 and now we learn simple things like this, a piece 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.280 of equipment that a lot of everyday citizens have to 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:57.360 feel safer in their own cars, our own police officers don't. 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.360 Hang on this argument about we don't know about the 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:05.240 legalities and the issues with privacy with collecting the footage. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.440 The police officers already have, but body. 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.480 Can backlist right which they can activate at any time. 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:14.040 So if it's okay for the police to collect body 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.840 cam footage, why would it not be okay for them 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:18.400 to collect dashcam footage. 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.880 I think the difference is bodycam is obviously utilized in 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.200 even if they do breathalyzers. 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:25.800 I was breathalyzed recently. 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:27.840 They've got their body cams on because it's a one 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.240 on one interaction. So if you're going to swear at 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.440 them or assault them in any way, it's captured on 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.640 a body cam. A dash cam is different because it's 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.840 constantly recording despite nobody doing anything. 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:41.680 But people are innocently. 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:45.040 Getting around in their everyday lives in their cars being recorded. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.840 But most South Wales and taxis have yeah, and a 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.800 lot of dash cams have got a button on the 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.040 side a bit like the body cam footage where you 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.200 can press it and it will automatically take like the 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.040 last twenty seconds of footage and then record like it 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.680 doesn't keep every bit of footage it ever takes otherwise 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:01.960 that had just run out of room to do it. 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:03.920 I don't know how that's an argument at all. I mean, 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:05.560 you go to JBBI. 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.440 Naturally he needs to define defense. 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.040 You go to jb High fight as these coppers seem 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:10.320 to be. 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.400 You get a dash cam for about one hundred bucks, right, 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.040 and you said that the police commission of grund Stevens 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:20.040 was given one hundred grand in a pay rise. Let's 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.320 say they've got a thousand odd police cars in South Australia. 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.000 I don't know what the exact number is. I know 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.160 a few years ago they rolled out like a tablet 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.480 iPad system in police cars and they fitted that to 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.480 about six hundred and eighty police cars. And I'm assuming 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.360 that's not the entire So let's say they've got a 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.120 thousand police cars one hundred dollars a pop. 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:39.440 That's one hundred. 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.720 Grand, which is the same as the pay rise, and 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.080 they can have every police vehicle in the state with 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.680 a dash cam in it, like as if the government, 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:47.760 the state government doesn't. 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.600 Have one hundred grand blowing around, that's chump change. 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.640 They'd blow one hundred and grand in five seconds flat 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.920 if they were given the opportunity. It is such a 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.680 basic thing. And the other argument they've run is well 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.440 they've already got the body cams. 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.040 Well, I mean, a body cam's not. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.120 Much use if you want to get footage of someone 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.760 going one hundred kilometers an hour through a fifty zone 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.680 on the street, right, Because often what they come into 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.639 trouble is they go off to court. Someone's elected to 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.879 be prosecuted in court and then the cops are asked 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.720 for the evidence and they're like, well, we don't actually 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.960 have the physical evidence because there's no way to film it, right, 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.119 so there is your opportunity to film it. 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:24.320 Oh we couldn't possibly do. 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:26.840 I just don't get how there is any argument to 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:28.040 not have a DASH Canada Police. 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.600 The only thing this does is it answers the question 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.760 why are so many police resigning. Resignations are up fifty 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.680 five percent in the South Australian Police Force in the 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.240 last twelve months, which is why they're going to you know, 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:41.240 the UK, New Zealand and Ireland to try to find 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.040 people who want to work as a police officer. I'm 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.520 not sure how successful that will be when they tell 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.920 applicants that once you get a job in the South 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.000 Australian Police you will need to go down to jbhi 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.960 Fi and by yourself a DASH camp so that you 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:56.760 can feel safe and protected staying in South Australia. The 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.760 Federal Parliament has just passed legislation to permit a nuclear 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:05.320 waste facility being established in Port Adelaide. That's in connection 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.560 with the submarines that will operate out of there. The irony, 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.320 of course is it's only a few months since the 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:15.159 government decided not to pursue, having spent seven years prepping it. 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.440 A nuclear waste facility in kimber in Regional South Australia. 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.320 So you can't have a nuclear waste facility out in 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.479 the boondocks now, No, we're going to put it right 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:28.600 in the middle of suburbia in Adelaide instead. Richard Miles, 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:33.080 speaking about the facility he's a defense minister, said submarine construction, 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.400 test and commissioning activities planned for Osborne that's in Port 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:40.119 Adelaide will generate small amounts of low level radioactive waste, 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:44.120 including personal protective equipment. This low level radioactive waste will 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.720 need to be managed and temporarily stored in a licensed facility. 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:53.200 No immediate level waste or intermediate level waste or high 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:56.840 level radioactive waste will be managed or stored in the facility. 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.359 That's Richard Males, spokesperson speaking now this it's been a 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:05.720 local petition of four thousand people complaining about this, saying 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:09.480 we were promised submarine jobs, not nuclear waste. But I 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.840 mean they're missing the point, aren't they, Liz That Hospitals, Universities, 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:16.320 Lucas Heights reactor. Nuclear waste at the low level is 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:20.640 stored in multiple places. Sterling in Wa has just been 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:24.320 approved to store low level nuclear waste. But the point 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.080 that I started with is the most ironic part of this. 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.199 Just in August, the government said no, no, we can't have 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:34.000 a nuclear waste facility out in sort of the regions 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:37.640 of South Australia because an indigenous group, of course opposed 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:39.760 it and said we will not have this, And so 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.679 now you've got it right in the middle of suburbia. Ironically, 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.480 a lot of the indigenous people who opposed the Kimbert 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.840 nuclear facility actually live in suburban Adelaide. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.960 This is Backfvies spectacularly. But in terms of awareness, I 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:57.199 don't think enough has been done to educate populations just 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.760 how safe this is nowadays. I mean, we're still haunted 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:07.080 about massive nuclear reactors that went off sixty odd years ago, 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:11.800 and nuclear waste is always depicted in movies as being 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:15.680 highly toxic, and it's usually some Russian spy jabbing someone 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.480 with the tip of an umbrella or something, et cetera, 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.119 and so on. Not enough is done to explain to 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.040 them just how safe this is. 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:24.560 In the twenty first century. 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:27.920 When is the last time you heard about a nuclear 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:30.959 waste dump having any kind of leak or being compromised. 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.080 There was an episode of The Simpsons I saw. 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.400 Which is which is where most Australians get. 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:38.840 Their Labor Party. 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:43.160 Yeah, with the eyes the fishes with the ten eyes 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:46.080 and that kind of thing. And obviously the Labor Party 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:50.159 hasn't helped either. They've really stoked that fear mongering because 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:53.159 of course that is a very strong bastion of the 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:57.920 Liberals campaigning for federal government talking up nuclear the benefits 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.400 that will bring to the nation, and all late has 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:02.960 been able to do in order to push back, and 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:04.640 that is this really old. 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:05.640 School fear mongering. 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.440 The truth of the matter is anyone who's done any 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:10.880 homework on nuclear. 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:12.359 Waste, how it's stored, how. 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.000 It's reduced, how it's disposed of here in the twenty 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:18.160 first century, would have absolutely no concerns. 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:20.000 I wouldn't have any concerns. 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:22.560 If it was literally next door, because I've done my 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.480 due diligence and that's where we're at nowadays. So even 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:29.320 though for peace of mind, people would rather consider oh, 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.960 well out in Kimber's that's away from ever it genuinely 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:33.920 makes no difference. 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:35.679 It makes no difference whatsoever. 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:39.320 But I have a suggestion for a place where all 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.400 nuclear waste in Australia should go. And I think if 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:44.520 we took a poll, the nation would be on board 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:51.600 camera camera. It is the where all nuclear waste belongs 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:52.840 naturally or. 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:56.040 In the first class cabin of a quantity flight person 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:59.120 that the Prime Minister has gained a free before. I mean, 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:03.359 I've written before that anyone who opposes a nuclear waste 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:07.160 dump being built in Australia should refuse all nuclear medicine, 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.880 don't go for any X rays. Where do you think 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.560 this waste comes from? Right, Like, we're not just creating 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:18.080 it for giggles. It is from primarily medical procedures like 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.600 X rays, And of course it will be generated in 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:24.360 the building of nuclear submarines. Now those nuclear submarines, we're 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:26.560 only talking about the waste that will be generated in 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.480 the production of the submarines. At this point, when we 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:33.040 actually commission them and have them floating around in the water, 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.879 they will generate high level nuclear waste which will have 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:38.359 to go and we don't have an answer for that 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:41.880 at all yet. But I just reckon anyone who lives 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:45.960 in Port Adelaide, who opposed a nuclear waste dump being 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:50.760 built in kimber in a totally geologically stable place that 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:54.159 the locals all supported. That was far away from most 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:57.560 of the locals. Now they've got it in their backyard 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:00.159 and they got exactly what they deserve for opposing it 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:00.919 in the first place. 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:02.040 What did you think was. 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:02.600 Going to happen? 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:04.640 And by the way, even though. 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.359 The federal government says that they will only have low 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:11.160 level waste at this particular dump, the legislation that they 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:14.960 have passed to allow the dump does not specify what 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:16.880 level of waste can be put there. 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.880 True for all purposes, they. 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:24.280 Could put high level waste there one day watch this space, 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:24.760 let's go. 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.680 But as I said, that would still be absolutely perfect. 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:30.640 Quote Liz Storer, you can take my word? 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:32.560 Can I just say, Liz store has had a massive 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:34.440 week on the late debate. You have said you would 0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:37.439 like to be removed from the electoral role on account 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:38.840 of being a woman, and you'd like to live next 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.920 door to a nuclear waste facility. 0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:43.679 I said what I said, I stand by. 0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:47.320 Unfortunately, unfortunately for Liz, she rents if she actually owned 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:49.359 property at the moment, she could just elect to have 0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:51.879 her property turned into a nuclear Waiste jump and make 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:52.800 shd loads of money. 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:56.160 I'll dig a basement and be like exactly, and we'd 0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:58.000 never see her on the Late Debate again because you'd 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.440 have squillions and squillions and squillions of dollars do whatever 0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:02.320 the hell she wanted. Lit Hey da, if it means 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:04.720 getting nuclear up and running in Australia, they can have 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:05.640 my space for free. 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.159 Let's go to the US now where you saw the 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.879 other day, Donald Trump, of course did an interview with 0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:14.280 Joe Rogan on his podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience, which 0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:16.800 is one of the biggest podcasts in the world. 0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:19.280 And so the question has rightfully. 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.280 Been asked, when is Kamala Harris going to do in 0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:23.640 appearance And it has nothing to do with the fact 0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:26.720 that Joe Rogan doesn't want her there. He has invited 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:29.480 her to appear on the podcast, but she and her 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.639 team have set down some ground rules about how it 0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:35.960 would operate. Now, keep in mind that Donald Trump went 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:38.520 to Rogan's studio in Texas. 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:40.120 He was interviewed for three. 0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:43.720 Hours, which is generally how long Rogan's podcast go for 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:48.840 Nah not good enough for Kamala Harris, she must maintain control. 0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.000 Rogan said, for the record, the Harris campaign has not 0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:56.520 passed on doing the podcast. They offered a date for Tuesday, 0:24:56.680 --> 0:25:00.200 but I would have had to travel to her. I 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.840 only wanted to do an hour. I strongly feel the 0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:06.680 best way to do it is in the studio in Austin. 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.840 My sincere wish is to just have a nice conversation 0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.719 and get to know her as a human being. I 0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.760 really hope we can make it happen. He's tried to 0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.720 make it happen. He's made the offer and they've said no, 0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:21.480 it will only happen on her conditions. 0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:23.560 Well, why was it that Trump. 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:27.399 Was unafraid to go to his studio, his territory and 0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:32.119 sit down and talk for three hours, but Kamala Harris won't. 0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:32.760 Hmm. 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:33.960 I wonder why. 0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:37.560 Maybe because she couldn't fill in three hours of interview, 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:42.320 Particularly knowing the way that Joe Rogan conducts his interviews. 0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.240 He doesn't go in there and let anyone get away 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:48.920 with anything. It's a very conversational style of interview, right, 0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:53.840 and even more so than a formal, sit down, hard 0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:56.960 hitting interview. I think that is a space in which 0:25:57.000 --> 0:26:00.359 she would really struggle unless she's on friendly Tearror like 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.880 that Call Her Daddy podcast that she did, because when 0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:07.520 you're asked to genuinely be you and you try to 0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:11.800 sell policies that you don't necessarily agree with, people see 0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:13.560 through it right away. 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:15.560 She knows the danger. 0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:16.960 That there would be in going and doing. 0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:19.520 That podcast because she couldn't sit there for three hours 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.080 and talk you know, about all and sundry like Donald 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:24.040 Trump could, because she doesn't have a clue about all 0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:24.239 of it. 0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.159 And that's the problem. It's less of an interview and 0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:29.320 more of a conversation. And most politicians are really good 0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:32.920 with talking points. Well, Kamala Harris is a talking point machine. 0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.680 That's all she does. I was raised in a middle 0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.560 class family, and a three hour conversation is going to 0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:43.720 expose her because while Trump can explain himself, Kamala Harris 0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:47.040 is completely unable to explain herself. But the other interesting 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.600 part about this, Liz, is that Kamala Harris really needs 0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:53.840 Joe Rogan right now. Ah, But Joe Rogan does not 0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:57.680 need her at all. Joe Rogan's podcast will continue successfully 0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:02.399 well after November, but Kamala harris may not, which is 0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:05.560 probably why politicians right around the world are so desperate 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:13.119 to regulate online podcasts, blogs, social media because they no 0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:16.679 longer control the narrative. And Joe Rogan says, will you 0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:18.400 talk to me for three hours or you won't talk 0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:21.399 to me at all? And he's calling the shots, and 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.200 Joe Rogan is like a what was he a school 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:29.160 dropout who ended up imitating on UFC? He's dictating terms 0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:33.040 to the US Vice president Democrat candidate. 0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:35.639 To be clear, Joe Rogan has the most listened to 0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:39.399 podcast in the world. He gets millions and millions of 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:43.680 people tuning in every single week for the most fascinating conversations. 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.960 Like Caleb said, most of them are three hours long, 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.760 so it's a long form conversation with some of the 0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:51.119 most famous. 0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:51.840 People on the planet. 0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:55.440 And Kamala could have really done with this, but her 0:27:55.680 --> 0:28:00.080 team knows better. When you have someone like Trump and 0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.200 jd Van see, their campaign is very smart. Trump and 0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:08.119 Jdevans have gone on a podcast spree. This is not 0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:11.560 the first podcast Trump has done. Certainly the most famous 0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:15.440 Jade Vance last week when on a podcast with theovon 0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:20.760 who is the most hilarious comedian? He's very sacrilegious, and 0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.520 so most of the time they just spent it laughing 0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:26.480 their heads off. But the amount of people who watch 0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:30.480 that on the Theovon podcast instead of Jdevans, I can't 0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.520 believe I was ever told by the mainstream media. 0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:36.160 That this guy was a weirdo. He's hilarious. 0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:40.400 He's just sitting around with Theovon talking for ages about 0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:44.880 releasing the Epstein client list and all these really interesting things. 0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:48.480 Kamala's team knows that she can't do this because how 0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:51.600 many times have we seen her, even in short form 0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:56.200 interviews on mainstream media like CNN, refer people to her 0:28:56.280 --> 0:29:00.520 website When she is asked about her policy, she'll be like, oh, 0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:02.720 I've got over eighty pages. 0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:03.760 On my website. 0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:07.120 I know I'm referring you to a website, but that's 0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:09.800 what you got to do. No, it's not because if 0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:13.400 you stand on principle and you have convictions about anything, 0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.480 and you haven't changed half of your policies, if not more, 0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.360 in order to run for president, you know exactly what 0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.760 you're going to say about any given topic. That's how 0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.000 they've been shown up once again. 0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:26.840 Trump and JD. 0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.840 Evans have been dancing through these podcasts having a whale 0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:33.320 of a time. Millions of people, not just Americans, people 0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.240 around the world have watched these and gone, these. 0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:37.960 Guys are lads. I really like them. 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.440 They can really hold their own. The Kamala campaign has 0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:44.600 done the only thing that they could do in this situation, 0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:48.840 which is decline, by setting parameters that the new Rogan 0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:49.840 could never agree to. 0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:51.080 And it's. 0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:55.320 Oh, I've lost my train of thought. There, you've done 0:29:55.360 --> 0:30:00.760 me over, Liz. I was going to say something, but 0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:03.960 I not remembering what I was going to say. I'll 0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:05.640 give you a funny line that I'm sure I've used 0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:09.560 before that the only convictions Kamala Harris has are the ones. 0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:10.880 She achieved as a prosecutor. 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:12.480 Speaking of going. 0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:15.800 Back to Kamala Harris, she went today to give a 0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.800 speech at the same location where Donald Trump gave his 0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:22.880 last speech before the capital was stormed on January sixteen, 0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.280 twenty twenty one. And of course, you know they try 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.560 to say it was the insurrection it setha Now. She 0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.600 started off by saying, look, what we really need in 0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:36.200 America right now is to do away with the division. 0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:41.040 America. For too long, we have been consumed with too 0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:46.800 much division, chaos, and mutual distrust. And it can be 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:51.640 easy then to forget a simple truth. It doesn't have 0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:55.160 to be this way. It doesn't have to be this way. 0:30:56.680 --> 0:31:01.600 It is time to stop pointing figures. We have to 0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:07.120 stop pointing fingers and start locking arms. It is time 0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:12.480 to turn the page on the drama and the conflict, 0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.720 the fear and division. 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.920 The conflict, the fear of the division, it all has 0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.480 to go out of the window, which is why in 0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.920 the next breath she brought up the fake insurrection again. 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:27.959 We know who Donald Trump is. 0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:33.080 He is the person who stood at this very spot 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:38.120 nearly four years ago and sent an armed mob to 0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:43.480 the United States Capital to overturn the will of the 0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.240 people in a free and fair election. 0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:51.600 I mean, please, you cannot in the first instance. So 0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:53.720 we had to do away with the division and the 0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:57.080 fear and then say that Trump sent an armed mob 0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:00.800 to the Capitol even though he had plead with people 0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:05.640 to be peaceful. She is flat out lying and like 0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:07.920 much as we'll get to Waltz and all this stuff 0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:11.000 about the Trump being a Nazi in a minute, but 0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.840 they try to sell themselves. We can't have the division anymore. 0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.280 We've got a unite We've got to bring America back. 0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:20.080 But then they go straight to the grab bag. Trump 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:24.160 is hitler, Trump tried to stage an insurrection, He's a fascist, 0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.400 he's a threat to democracy. I mean, that's a great 0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:30.120 version of just not having the division, isn't it. 0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:31.720 I mean it's just shameless. You know, We've got to 0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:33.760 stop pointing the finger. And then she went on to 0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.560 use terms like Trump is a petty tyrant, he's a 0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:40.200 want to be dictator, he's obsessed with revenge. I'll go 0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.040 to the White House with a to do list, He'll 0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.280 go to the White House with a to get you list. 0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:48.680 It's just absolutely shameless, and they don't even pretend or apologize. 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.160 But that's all they've got. 0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:54.120 And I tell you who hasn't gotten Kamala Harris's new 0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:56.440 memo about oh, we're going to clamp. 0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:57.440 Down on the divisive stuff. 0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.440 Now we are the UNITEDS and we are bringing thee 0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:04.800 together and that's our message to the American people. Her 0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:08.720 VP running mate Tim Waltz does not seem to have 0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:13.400 gotten this change of heart memo from the Harris Biden administration, 0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:17.040 because here he is earlier this week, same old stick, 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:24.040 comparing Trump's Madison Garden rally, which was ginormous in New York, 0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:28.400 once again comparing it to a Hitler rally because he 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:31.040 once had a rally in Madison Square Gardens too. 0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:35.560 Donald Trump has descended into madness over the last few weeks. 0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:37.400 And I think some of you don't miss on this. 0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:39.840 Go do your google on this. Donald Trump's got this 0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:44.200 big rally going at Madison Square Garden. There's a direct 0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.280 parallel to a big rally that happened in the mid 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.960 nineteen thirties at Madison Square Garden. And don't think that 0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.880 he doesn't know for one second exactly what they're doing there. 0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.880 Speaking of descending into madness, this is what the. 0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:57.840 Dems have come to. 0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:01.080 It's like, oh, do you drink water? You know who 0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:02.160 else strength water? 0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.920 Hitler? That is how desperate they are. 0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:09.760 That is how grasping at straws this campaign has become. 0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:15.040 Now after the Madison Square Garden rally, Tim Waltz was 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:18.600 asked again, do you still back that up? Now that 0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:23.000 the rally is done and dusted, Nothing bad happened. Plenty 0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:26.759 of Jews were in attendance, people of all kinds of 0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.520 shapes and colors and nationalities that certainly would not have 0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:32.280 attended a Nazi rally. 0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:32.919 Were there? 0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.560 It was a packed house at this rally. Do you 0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:38.400 want to maybe reconsider your comments? 0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.000 You stand by the comparison, though, to a Nazi rally. 0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.000 Look the rally. You saw it for yourself. I'll let 0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.000 the American public make the decision of what they saw. 0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:48.000 What about you, though, So I know what I saw, 0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:48.960 and I'll just leave it at that. 0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:52.239 I know what I saw, and it was obviously a 0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.080 Nazi rally, like I said. 0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:54.359 It would be. 0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.680 So Hitler wasn't actually at this rally all those many 0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.959 years ago, but there was a Nazi rally that place at. 0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:02.120 Madison Square Gardens. 0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.440 And that is how these guys are running with this nonsense. 0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.560 Well it's a copy paste scenario. I mean, you've seen 0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:12.040 it there for yourself. Couldn't back it up with a 0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:17.000 single example of how this might have had anything to 0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.760 do with or resemble in any way said Nazi rally. 0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:22.799 He just says, well, I know what I saw, and 0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:26.320 I'm sure people watching saw it too, and we're supposed 0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:27.600 to know what he's referring tonight. 0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:30.800 I ask you, James, you're a big fan of Billy Joel. Yeah, 0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:34.359 Billy Joel has performed at Madison Square Garden, has he not? 0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:37.640 Which really worries me. Was that a Nazi rally? I've 0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:40.360 seen the New York Knicks play at Madison Square Gardens 0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:42.520 the Nazi rally. 0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:44.719 They drink water because Hitler drank water. 0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:47.040 But I mean, speak of people not getting the memoy. 0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:50.200 It gets even worse, right as if whilst talking about 0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.680 this being a Nazi party at Madison Square Garden, then 0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:57.480 Joe Biden ups the ante even further and literally calls 0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:00.120 half the country garbage. 0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:03.239 Puerto Rico, where I'm in my home state of Delaware 0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:05.320 for good, decent, honorable people. 0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:08.560 The only garbage I see floating down there is just orders. 0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:11.080 Now. 0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:14.000 Of course, Donald Trump had a brilliant retort to that. 0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:20.200 Remember Hillary, she said deplorable and then she said irredeemable. Right, 0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.279 but she said deplorable. That didn't work out. Garbage, I 0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.520 think is worse, right. But he doesn't know. You have 0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:31.200 to please forgive him, Please forgive him, for he not 0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:36.840 knoweth what he said these people. It's terrible, terrible, terrible 0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:38.920 to say a thing like that. But he really doesn't know, 0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.920 he really honestly, he doesn't. And I'm convinced that he 0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:47.680 likes me more than he likes Kamala. 0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.360 Donald Trump being very gracious there, Joe Biden ends fifty 0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:53.160 years in public life by describing half the country as garbage. 0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:54.680 We're going to go to a break. When we come back, 0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:57.799 we'll look at what's making us tomorrow, Including Anthony Albaneze. 0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:01.759 He tries to explain those count to upgrades. His explanation 0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:04.840 only serves to raise more questions. That's coming up in 0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:09.879 just a moment. Welcome back. Well, let's look at what's 0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:14.680 making news tomorrow. Caleb and Liz Anthony Albanese's quantus relationship 0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:16.719 has been used for a few days, and it's going 0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:18.040 to be news again tomorrow. 0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.359 It is so easy to put these things to bead. 0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:24.319 Just say sorry, own the mistake, instead of waiting five 0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:28.000 days to give a carefully worded response that answers nothing 0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.960 but no. That's what his team has decided to go with. 0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:35.240 The splash reads no call to Joyce seeking upgrade Pim's 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.879 carefully worded defense or should we say lack They're off. 0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:42.240 Anthony Albanezi has ruled out ever having called Alan Joyce 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:45.480 to seek a flight upgrade in a carefully worded statement, 0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:49.480 issued five days after the Prime Minister was embroiled in 0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:53.120 controversy over whether he used his relationship with the former 0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:56.839 Quantus chief executive for personal gain and made decisions in 0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:59.600 government that benefited the airline. 0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:01.759 It's ruled out I never called him. 0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:04.920 Doesn't mean you didn't text him, doesn't mean you didn't 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.960 email him, doesn't mean you didn't send a carrier pigeon 0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:10.799 or get one of your staff to call one of 0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:14.640 his staff. I mean, it really clarifies absolutely nothing. 0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.680 But it's not a matter of who he called. 0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:21.960 It's a matter of whether he called anyone at all. 0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:25.719 Right, we're not talking although actually I was going to 0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:27.880 say we're not talking about with or not he received freebies, 0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:31.760 because Paul outlined at the beginning of his program tonight 0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.480 how even if he had accepted unsolicited freebies when he 0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.080 was Transport Minister, that could be a breach of the 0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.840 ministerial coast. Yes, but a lot of this has centered 0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:46.000 around whether or not he solicited freebes from Quantus. It 0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:49.760 doesn't matter whether he spoke to Alan Joyce or anyone 0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.880 else at Quantas. And you will note he has not 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:57.839 denied ever soliciting a freebie from Quantus. All he has 0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:02.200 denied is calling Alan Joe to get a freebie from Quantus. 0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.520 He could have put out a statement and say I 0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:09.240 have never contacted anyone from Quantus to ask for an upgrade. 0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:11.400 It's all he had to say, I've never done it. 0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:12.759 It would put it to bed. I mean, of course 0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:14.840 then we'd want the receipts and. 0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:19.600 That he has his staff anyone that that would. 0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.359 Put it to bed. So why has he not said that? 0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:23.360 Is the first question. 0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:25.920 And I think the other thing as well that we 0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.880 haven't talked about as much, but I think is really 0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:31.920 important in all of this is it's one thing for 0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:36.600 politicians to receive or solicit freebies, but it is this 0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:41.000 particular industry, the airline industry, over which the federal government 0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:44.920 has so much control, and as a result of that control, 0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:49.160 can decide, in effect, how much you and I pay 0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:52.360 for flights. And what we're talking about here is a 0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:57.600 transport minister allegedly soliciting cheaper flights than he would otherwise 0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:01.720 pay for, while also then making decisions that can affect 0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:05.240 how much you and I pay for a flight. That's 0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:08.040 the problem here, made It's got nothing to do with 0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.440 whether you've got a free be out of quantas. We 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.719 know lots of politicians have had a free be out 0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:15.520 of quantas. It's whether you asked for it while you 0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:18.280 had control over that market. 0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:21.000 It affects us. It's not just about whether. 0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:22.960 You've got a couple of free drinks in the air. 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:27.000 It actually affects you and me because we pay certain 0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.560 prices for flights based on how many operators there are 0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:31.800 in the market and who decides is in the market. 0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:33.560 The Transport Minister that. 0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:35.840 The other contrast that was really interesting today was so 0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:40.120 you've got Anthoni Albanzi saying I never called Allan Joyce, 0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.719 which is too clever by half. And then you've got 0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:46.439 former Prime Minister Tony Abbott saying I declined the offer 0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.719 of an upgrade, saying you know what, I'm not going 0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.000 to receive that because it would be inappropriate. That's what 0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:53.680 Anthony Albaneze should have done in the first place, if 0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.960 it was offered. Of course, the suggestion is he solicited. 0:40:57.200 --> 0:40:59.920 But for this to have gone on for five days ah, 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.960 And now finally a statement has been put out and 0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:07.759 the statement is clearly very very careful, using limited and 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:12.520 very specific language so as not to get themselves into trouble. 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:14.480 But of course it's just created more trouble now and 0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:17.239 it's on the front page of The Australian tomorrow and 0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:20.160 I suspect this will not be the final front page 0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:21.400 article on this topic. 0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:23.959 Well that's what you're doing by not putting it to bed. 0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:25.800 Where is this guy's PR team? 0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:26.480 Just kill it? 0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:27.520 Just kill it. 0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:30.280 There's no other way to do it, but accept responsibility 0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:32.319 for what clearly went on to. 0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:33.680 The second splash on the front of. 0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:38.520 The ODDS pig headed know it Alls, adding insult to illness. 0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:42.840 Victorian's concerned about COVID nineteen lockdowns were branded pig headed 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:46.000 know it Alls in a mystery email the Allen government 0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:49.479 has been ordered to release after losing an eighteen month 0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:52.360 fight to keep it secret. 0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:54.720 Well, I mean. 0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:58.279 Like the report out of Victoria hasn't been damning enough 0:41:58.320 --> 0:41:59.960 and like we didn't know it would be. 0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:04.160 We now find out there was name calling involved. Why 0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:04.680 fit in. 0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:08.880 An eighteen month fight as well to get emails that 0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:13.800 pertained to these decisions which affected thousands and thousands millions 0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:17.200 of Victorians And now we get to read one and 0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:21.799 your name calling people for railing against the longest lockdown 0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:25.640 in the world. That's what these people really think of. 0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:26.719 You don't forget that. 0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:28.760 Can I just say we were called a lot worse 0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:32.440 by various state police ministers, state premiers, and state health 0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:35.320 chief officials. But that the hilarious part of this story 0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.080 is for eighteen months they fought to keep this email 0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:42.440 secret because they thought it would be contrary to the 0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:46.359 public interest to I love that line, So it would 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:48.640 hurt our feelings too much if we read that they 0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:50.200 were calling us pigheaded. 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:50.680 No at all. 0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:51.600 And it's also. 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:55.240 Worth noting that these emails were between the state government 0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:58.680 and a research firm that they were going to to 0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:03.200 obviously ask about public sentiment about what the government was doing, 0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.919 because as we know, so many of these decisions during 0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:07.680 COVID were not about health. 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:09.840 They were political. 0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:13.080 Decisions, and in those dealings, well, you were pig headed. 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:16.080 No it alls, that's exactly what Daniel Andrews and his 0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:19.360 government thought of you. Let's go to the Cam's post now, 0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:24.200 where there's another equally ridiculous story, Marathon deformation battle. This 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:27.920 thing went on for about five years. Eanes's defendants ordered 0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:32.600 to pay five hundred k Jibber Jabber bust great headline. 0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:37.280 A lengthy defamation battle over a cartoon depicting an LGAQ 0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:41.840 boss that's the Local Government Association of Queensland as Jabba 0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:45.400 the Hut and associated posts has ended with a court 0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:50.520 ordering the payment of more than five hundred thousand dollars 0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:54.799 in damages. Now we're talking about a former MP in 0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:58.839 Queensland who is now a counselor, who put up a 0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:04.600 cartoon on line depicting this boss from the LGAQ as 0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:08.759 Jabba the Hut and basically suggesting that he had been 0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.839 involved in some sort of corrupt conduct. He then went 0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.800 on to post thirty other posts in which the bloke 0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.759 was not named, but the court has ruled there was 0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:21.239 an obvious connection between those posts and the Jabba the 0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:26.480 Hut cartoon. Now, for heaven's sake, I understand that the 0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:31.520 LGAQ boss might be aggrieved that an XMP, now a counselor, 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:35.400 put something on social media depicting him as Jabba the 0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:39.359 Hat that suggested he might have done something corrupt? Is 0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:43.440 that worth five hundred thousand dollars? I suspect not. And 0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:45.759 I tell you what if I were the boss of 0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:49.239 the LGAQ, I would be really upset. As we were 0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:52.680 talking about earlier James that the judge in this case 0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:57.000 actually found that when the boss rocked up to court 0:44:57.400 --> 0:45:00.680 there were obvious physical similarity. 0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:01.800 Between him and jab of the Hut. 0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:04.080 I'm not sure. I think we might have an image 0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:05.880 of Jabba the Hut for viewers who aren't familiar with 0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:09.560 what we're talking about. He's a Star Wars character associated 0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:12.359 with corruption. That was the premise for the defamation thing. 0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:15.200 My favorite part about this story is that one of 0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:17.560 the defendants who's now been ordered to pay up right 0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:22.560 is a former Greens MP, Rod Pine. He was interviewed 0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:24.680 in the Cans Posts, so he's been ordered to pay 0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.320 money right. This is what he says. He said he 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.759 could not afford to pay the damages because he was 0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:33.600 a socialist quote and not really into the accumulation of 0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:34.520 wealth to be honest. 0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:36.879 Good. 0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:41.240 All I know is any cartoonists out there, I need 0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:44.600 you to draw me as a depiction of Jabba the Hut. 0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:47.840 I would love half a lazy million dollars. 0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:51.920 I mean, someone, please just paint me, draw me however 0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:54.600 you like, in a really, really unflattering light. 0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:55.479 I beg you. 0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:57.640 Where to go to a break, will we come back 0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:01.439 a US court us to rule theph are people. That's 0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:02.360 coming up at a moment. 0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:03.400 About jebb the Heart. 0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:09.239 Welcome back. Well, the animal rights group in the US 0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:13.080 wants to free five elephants from a Colorado zoo. So 0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:16.799 they've gone to the Supreme Court arguing that the court 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:22.120 should rule these elephants are persons deserving of human rights. 0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:25.919 They say that if the elephants you can see them there, 0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:30.399 have human rights, then they deserve emancipation as slaves would 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:34.319 be emancipated, or as women in abuse of marriages. Now, 0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:37.400 what's funny about this story is that the US Supreme 0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:41.040 Court Justice Melissa Hart, orso the Colorado Supreme Court Justice 0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:44.719 Melissa Hart, she has declined to rule that these elephants 0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:47.520 are persons. But this is her reason. She said, if 0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:50.320 I ruled that these elephants of persons deserving of freedom, 0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:54.120 what does that mean for the cats and dogs of America? 0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:57.400 They'll all be demanding to be emancipated. 0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:02.840 Right across want to be emancipated from the people of Springfield, Ohio. 0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:05.440 All I can say for the people who've run this 0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:07.520 case is that they are a bunch of dumbos. 0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.359 Well, trust me, I've got a master's degree in human 0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.879 rights and there were people in my classes who would 0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:15.960 have absolutely agreed with this case and said that the 0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:21.759 elephant should be released. Well, the British artesianal cheese community 0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:24.680 are reeling after what they are calling the Great Cheese 0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:29.560 Heist of twenty twenty four. Get this, Some crims have 0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:34.600 broken into a major cheese distributor and stolen thousands of 0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:40.920 pounds of posh cheddar. Here's famous cook Jamie Oliver, known 0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:43.520 to everyone man who needs no introduction, just. 0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:45.879 Being like, well, hang in a minute, what are your 0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:48.280 flogs going to do with that much cheese? 0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:52.120 One of the best cheddar cheese in the world has 0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:56.080 been stolen. Twenty two tonsworth has been stolen from some 0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.440 I don't know robbers that basically pretended to be a 0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:03.799 French super market and basically done Niel's Yard dairy over. 0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:05.120 I mean, I don't know what they're going to do 0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.279 with it, really, I mean, are they going to like 0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:10.200 unpeel it with the cloth and then cut it, cut 0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:11.960 the skins off and grate it and get rid of it. 0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:14.840 In the fast food industry, in the commercial industry, I 0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:17.280 don't know. I mean, it seems like a really weird 0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:18.239 thing to Nick. 0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:21.040 That's a lot of cheese. Do you know a lot 0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:24.480 of cheese lovers that you're going to? Howk it on Facebook? Marketplace? 0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:26.479 What's the game here? 0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:29.520 Well, don't look in my garage for the next few days, 0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:31.440 would be my advice. 0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:33.280 I could get through that much cheese. 0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:35.600 Like, if I thought I could pull that crime off, 0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:37.640 I reckon I would do it, and I would have 0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:39.880 no trouble getting through that amount of cheese. 0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:42.600 Well, on that note, that's it from us, but don't 0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:44.840 go anywhere. Coming up in just a moment is the 0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:46.480 Rina pinnaheesho. Stay tuned.