1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gaddigal Land Always was, always 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land. Hey Ticks, I'm out and I'm 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: sal And this is Two Broke Chicks, the show that 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: shares life lessons and tips to help. 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: Make you rich in life. And Welcome back Life Life, 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: Welcome back for another fun little Eppie, how are you 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: say out? I'm good? How are you going? I'm good? 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Sounds a little bit blocked up in the schnozzle, so apologies, 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: but she's good, she's babe, and she's thriving. 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: Well. 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: Today we are going to be talking about the things 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: we need to unlearn in our twenties. 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 2: Sou and I have these things that. 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure you chicks do too, that we have ingrained 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: in us, and we're like, fuck, we need to stop 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: doing that. For example, one we've mentioned on the podcast 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: a lot is saying the word just for example. 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: You know, it's very minimizing to what you're saying. 19 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: You very often can remove that from your vocabulary. So 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: these are those kind of life lessons that were like, damn, 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: let's move past these things. Also, some of these things 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: like I don't know about you because I don't know 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: what yours are, Yeah, but like I'm still in the 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: process of some of these things. Like I'm like still 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: catching myself doing some of these things that I want 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: to unload, and I'm. 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: Like, ah, stop it. Yeah. 28 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: Definitely minor for sure, things that I still do or 29 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, I've found myself falling back into patterns. 30 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: And I'm in my thirties. So that's the thing as well. 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: Even if you're not in your twenties and you're listening 32 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: to this episode. I think all of these things will 33 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: be good reminders no matter what age you are. Yeah, 34 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: it's like the things we need to unload in our 35 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: twenties and be olden. Yeah, before we start, let's talk about. 36 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: Our obsession of the week. So what are you obsessed with? 37 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: I have another TV show? Oh my god, tell me clearly, 38 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: I'm in my cozy girl errage. It's winter and. 39 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm consuming all of the contents the best time to 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: do it. But it's a new show on Netflix and 41 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: it's called Four Seasons. 42 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: I've definitely seeing this pop up. 43 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: It's gout, Steve Corell in it, and Tina Fey here, 44 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: so obviously, yeah, it's a good calculation there. 45 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: It's so good. I think it's eight episodes. 46 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: Each episode is around thirty minutes, so super easy to watch. 47 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: And it's about three couples who have all been friends 48 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: for decades and they go on quarterly trips together. Yeah, 49 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: which is really cute, cute little tradition. But then one 50 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: of the couples breaks up, and so it like completely. 51 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: Steve Carell and Tina are they in a couple together? 52 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: They're not in a couple together. 53 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: But I won't give it away because that is the 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: description of the TV show, So I haven't dropped like 55 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: a big spoiler by like, you know, one of them 56 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: breaks up, but I don't want to say who breaks up. 57 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. You do find out in the first episode though, Oka. 58 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: But it's really good and every episode finishes on a 59 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: huge clickhank. 60 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 2: Oh no sad. 61 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: At the end of every episode, I'd be like, fuck, 62 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: like just wanting to watch the next one. 63 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: It's really good. Okay, Yeah, what's your obsession? 64 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: My obsession of the week is the thirteen dollar press 65 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: on nails from cotton On. As you chicks may have remembered, 66 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm on like a press on nail's journey recession indicator. 67 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: But I just simply can't sit in a nail salon 68 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: for two hours anymore. It's too much of my time, 69 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: it's too much, it's hard to fit into and just 70 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: the price has gotten insane, and like, I get it, 71 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: people need people have their own businesses. I'm not going 72 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: to sit here and say you're not allowed to charge that, 73 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but I am allowed to sit here 74 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: and be like, I don't want to pay that totally. 75 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: So like I swear, we went to go get our 76 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: nails done earlier this year, and I think this was 77 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: my final straw, and I showed them a photo not 78 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: that intense because I didn't want to sit there for 79 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: that long, and I got quoted one hundred and seventy 80 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: five dollars and I was like, these last two weeks, 81 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: so I'm not going to do that. Yeah, But again, 82 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: each to their own, but if you also feel that way, 83 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: highly recommend the can't non press on nails. I've had 84 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: these on for nearly three weeks, yeah, and ones popped 85 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: off and then you just give it a quick file, 86 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: quick glue, pop it back on. Like it's changed my 87 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: life to be completely transparent with you. 88 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: How Like it's so affordable the nail art you can 89 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: get that. 90 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: Would normally cost you, like two hundred dollars is so 91 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: much cheaper. And I have tried press on nails over 92 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: the years before, and I haven't liked them, Like I've 93 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: been like, I just can't get around it. They all 94 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: pop off. It doesn't do but I don't know what's happened. 95 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: They've reformulated glue and it's really good. They love them. 96 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: And also one of the things that I really struggled 97 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: with was that the nails would always be too bink 98 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: for my nails. 99 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: Nahe but these were these were really good, Like the 100 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: size range, I love that. 101 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's good shit. 102 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, highly recommend the cotton on press on nails. 103 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: Thirteen dollars and you get heaps in the packet, like 104 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: you don't just get ten and yeah, so if you 105 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: lose one, yes, so if you lose one and it 106 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: like goes away, like sometimes I lose one, I'm not 107 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: going to say that they're like iron Yeah, but like 108 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: I've had these on for three weeks and one popped 109 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: off yesterday. Yeah. Okay, shall we get into the things 110 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: we need to unlearn in our twenties and beyond, Yes, 111 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: things we need to unlearn in our twenties and beyond 112 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: money dysmorphia. 113 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: Oh have you heard of this term before? 114 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: I have? I have. Yeah, So for anybody who isn't familiar, 115 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: money dysmorphia isn't a clinical term. It's essentially an Internet 116 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: term to describe something that people have been discussing a 117 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: lot in recent years. But essentially, it's an Internet theory 118 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: that describes somebody who has a distorted view of their 119 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: financial situation and well being. And a recent survey conducted 120 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: by Credit Karma found that twenty nine percent of Americans 121 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 1: experience money dysmorphia. This is especially prevalent in younger generations, 122 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: with forty three percent of Gen Z relating. 123 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 2: To this concept. 124 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: It is so interesting because, like we were saying, it's 125 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: not it's a new term, but it's not a new concept. 126 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: It's basically the twenty twenty five answer to keeping up 127 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: with the Joneses. 128 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: Jones Jones, Joneses, Joneses. But the comparison trap. 129 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: I think either makes you feel inadequate and like you 130 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: don't have enough money, or you need to spend more 131 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: money to keep up with other people's lifestyles. I also 132 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: think it's the fact that no one teaches you how 133 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: to budget. No one teaches you how much you're supposed 134 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: to put towards living expenses, towards tax, Like we're all 135 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: kind of here free balling tax, being like I think 136 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, they're like until you get an account obviously, 137 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: which I highly recommend, but it's like. 138 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: No one teaches you this shit that. 139 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: I know when I moved out when I was twenty one, 140 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: I thought I could afford rent that was way higher 141 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: than what I. 142 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: Could actually afford. 143 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: And it was only once I moved out and I 144 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: was like, oh shit that like this is not like 145 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: this is so much more expensive than I thought it 146 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: was going to be. Yeah, or like vice versa, like 147 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: you look at something and be like, yeah, I can 148 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: afford that, and then you get to the end of 149 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: the month and you'll let yeah. 150 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: Fully. 151 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: But on the other side of that, money dysmorphia can 152 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: also have you questioning your financial security and worth when 153 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: you're actually doing okay, which I definitely can relate to 154 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: as well, and having that anxiety around money even though 155 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: like yeah, sure you're not rolling around in cash, but 156 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: also like you're doing okay and things are going to 157 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: be all right, yeah, and this doesn't mean that like 158 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: the cost of living crisis and that money isn't stressful, 159 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: because I think it is. I think whether or not 160 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: you have a lot of money or you don't have 161 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: any money. Of course, it all exists on a scale, 162 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: but it is it comes down to perspective a lot 163 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: of the time as well, and it can be a 164 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: source of stress for a lot of people. But I 165 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: also think that for most people in their twenties, it's 166 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: a reminder that we should be less hard on ourselves. Yeah, 167 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: because like you were saying, we don't learn anything about money, dude, 168 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: I didn't have savings until I like maybe two years ago. 169 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 170 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: Like I remember sitting with my roommate when we were 171 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: like twenty five, I think she was maybe two years older, 172 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: and she was like she don't. She like sided eyed 173 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: me and she's like, do you have savings? And I 174 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, we're going there. And I was 175 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: like how much do you have? She was like two 176 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: hundred bucks and I was like, yeah, pretty much the same. 177 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: And like that's the thing is again, you don't get 178 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: taught how to do it, and then potentially you see 179 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: articles or statistics of like this is the average salary 180 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: of someone in their thirties, or this is the average 181 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: savings of someone in their twenties. I didn't start saving 182 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: money until I was in my mid twenties. But I 183 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: do think a big part of that for me personally 184 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: was this concept of money dysmorphia. And I felt so 185 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: defeated and like there was no point even saving money 186 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: because I was, you know, on an entry level journalist 187 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: wage living in Sydney for the first time. So I 188 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: felt apathetic that I was just like, what's the point, 189 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: And so I didn't even try to. 190 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: Save or budget. I just can't. 191 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. But I think the thing is, though, is that 192 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: looking back at my spending habits, I definitely could have 193 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: like there was definitely things that I could have been 194 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: cutting back, I know, but list I remember, I think 195 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: it was on like my twenty fourth birthday and I 196 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: was throwing like a big house party, and I looked 197 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: at my bank account and I was like shit, and 198 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: I realized that I was gonna have to. 199 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: Pay my rent late by like a day. That by 200 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: like a day. 201 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: But because I'd spent so much money like buying you know, 202 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: like food and decorations and ship for my party. Literally 203 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: That's what I mean, Like, I probably could have been 204 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: budgeting better and maybe having a bit more forethought about 205 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: prioritizing where my money was going. And I'm not saying that, 206 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: like I wasn't, you know, struggling financially at the time, 207 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: but I just didn't. I was like, oh, well, what's 208 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: the fucking point. Maybe I feel like this might potentially 209 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: be a toxic money trade of mine, But it's the 210 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: fact that I think about that, and I think about 211 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: the fact that I didn't save in my early twenties 212 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: because one, like didn't know how too, it was very 213 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: expensive minimum wage vibes. But also I'm like, I was 214 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: having fun, yeah, and I'm still having fun now, but 215 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: like a, I don't know if this is the right 216 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: way to look at it. 217 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: But that's why I'm like, yeah, but you're having fun, 218 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: I know. 219 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: So I'm like, but again, I'm not saying that's a 220 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: good thing, but I'm like, if you're gonna not think. 221 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: About saving at some point in time. 222 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: In your life, maybe your early twenties is a best 223 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: part to do. Yeah, when because you've got maybe less responsibility, 224 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: maybe you don't have a partner, maybe you're still living 225 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: at your parents' house, Like if you're going to fucking 226 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: balls to the wall at anyone in a dime to 227 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: your life and be like fuck it, that's probably the 228 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: time to do it, and then maybe you can grow 229 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: up a little bit. Yeah, I think that's what happened, 230 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: and like I'm okay, yeah, and I think that's then 231 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm okay, so dramatic, yeah, but like I've learnt those things, 232 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: but it was I remember like sitting down and being like, 233 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: holy shit, like I'm turning twenty four tomorrow and I 234 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: don't have any sayes and like I have a full 235 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: time job and I'm thinking about how like I won't 236 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: be able to afford my rent because I haven't been 237 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: responsible with my money, and it's just like I had 238 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: to have those scares to make maybe like this feeling 239 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: of not being able to pay my rent and having 240 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: to text my mum to transfer me two hundred dollars 241 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: is not fun. Yeah, so like let's not do this again. 242 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: And absolutely it happened again. But then like the feeling 243 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: of that being like, okay, it's happened three times. 244 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: I've let my lesson. 245 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think as well, it just made me 246 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: flip the switch a little bit and change my perspective 247 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: and instead of being like, oh, well fuck it, Like 248 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: I don't make any money anyway, what's your point of 249 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: even saving because I won't have anything, I was like, 250 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to make a goal to save one thousand 251 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: dollars in the next six months. And it was like, 252 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: once I started doing that, it became so much easier 253 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: to save once I already had savings. 254 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's interesting. I listened to an episode. 255 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: Of an NPR podcast called The Indicator from Planet Money 256 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: this week, and they quoted a study that found that 257 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: three out of five people aged twenty eight or under 258 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: feel stressed about their finances. But looking at that group 259 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: of people, they're actually doing okay financially. So again, I'm 260 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: not saying that money shouldn't be stressful, but I do 261 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: think there are a few things that you can do 262 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: to get a little bit more perspective and maybe feel 263 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: a bit more empowered about your finances. 264 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: So some tips to deal with my dysmorphia. 265 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: Regularly check your bank account, that band aid off honestly, 266 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: build a budget so that you know where your money 267 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: is coming and going, setting aside a fun fund so 268 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: you actually feel like you can spend your money, because 269 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: if you're on the opposite side where you feel stressed 270 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: and anxious about money, if you never want to spend anything, 271 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: unfollow anybody who makes you feel insecure or you feel 272 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: like influences you to spend money that you don't have. 273 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: And also talk to your friends about money. 274 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: Like you were saying, you sat down with your old 275 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: housemate and you both admitted to each other that you 276 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: didn't really have savings. And I'm sure that lifted such 277 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: a huge weight off your shoulders. 278 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: And maybe you bought a bottle of wine. Yeah, no, 279 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, what's yours? Okay. 280 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: My first thing we need to unlearn in our twenties 281 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: is that fashion is driven by body shapes and what 282 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: is considered flattering. I just feel as though style is 283 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: not dependent on what is deemed flattering, like this term flattering, 284 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: and I find it very limited and a very dated 285 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: notion that yet again puts women into categories, and whether 286 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: we like it or not, those categories do have a 287 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: hierarchy as well. And I just cringe every time I 288 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: see a video of what to wear according to your 289 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: body type, and it's not shade to anyone specific or anything, 290 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: But it just is something that I think we need 291 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: to move away from and need to unlearn. 292 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: And there are multiple. 293 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: Reasons as to why I think this is like a 294 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: damaging and prehistoric narrative because it's confusing. Right, So, number one, 295 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: the math ain't mathing. So according to Nicki Parkinson, former 296 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: journalist and founder of Styling You, some experts would have 297 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: us believe that where one of five body shapes, others 298 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: tell us that there are seven possible shapes, and yet 299 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: another thinks there are twelve three point five billion individual 300 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: women in the world. Math may not be my strong point, 301 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: but something doesn't add up. Each of us is different 302 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: from the next woman. To think we can all be 303 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: categorized as certain types of fruit or other kinds of 304 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: shapes is just crazy and it distracts us from the 305 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: task at hand, which is to choose, buy, and wear 306 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: clothes that make us feel good. And also, not to 307 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: be obvious, but have you noticed that we never ever 308 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: talk about men's fashion in this way? That was my 309 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: second point, yeah, is that I have never ever heard 310 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: men be categorized into body types or shapes. 311 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: That's not to say that they have. 312 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: I am not God, I haven't seen every single piece 313 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: of information or content out there, but this body types 314 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: and shapes and whether an outfit is flattering is sexist. 315 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: It's never ever put into men's fashion like yeah, I've 316 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: just never heard it that way, And no one is 317 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: out there calling a guy a classic inverted triangle yeah, 318 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: or yes he needs this stress for his pear shaped 319 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: torso like it just I don't know, I just don't 320 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: like it. It's something that I'm really really trying to unlearn, 321 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: especially the term like flattering. Yeah, I also think that 322 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: flattering has an undertone of looking smaller. Yes, yeah, I 323 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: don't think that flattering even really means like showing. 324 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: Off your bodies, like showing off your body. 325 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: Flattering is the F word we need to stop using 326 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: because it's basically a synonym for fixing. Yeah, right, Like 327 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: that's how I look at it, and I've absolutely stopped 328 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: trying to use it towards myself. I've absolutely stopped using it. 329 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: I don't think I look, I'm not gonna say I've 330 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: never said to someone growing up, because you would think 331 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: it was a compliment. 332 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: Right, that looks so flattering, that looks really good on you. 333 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: I do not say that to anyone anymore, because exactly 334 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: what you said, it's this undertone of fixing or you 335 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: look smaller or you look better because something is either 336 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: accentuated that is deemed attractive, or something is hidden that 337 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: is deemed not attractive by society. 338 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: Right, And yeah, every. 339 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: Time I'm using that term towards myself, I find that 340 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: it's because it's hidden something that is maybe an insecurity 341 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: of mine, or because it's accentuated something that's deemed attractive. 342 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: Totally, you know what I mean. 343 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: And I also think we've just confused the term flattering 344 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: for a garment that just fits you well, because half 345 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: the time maybe that little naughty thought pops up in 346 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, actually, the clothes just fit, yeah, 347 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: you know. And like it's again that notion of like 348 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: clothes are meant to fit you, You're not meant to 349 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: fit your clothes. 350 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean? 351 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: Love that, And yeah, I just think it's something we 352 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: need to unlearn in our twenties. But I also saw 353 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 1: this week on Less Socials on shit you should care 354 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: about that? TikTok has blocked searchers for hashtag skinny talk 355 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: and yeah, and a tag that was basically a fast 356 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: track to content glorifying disordered eating, which I think is 357 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: really really great. I also know TikTok has also band 358 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: creators that were, you know, pushing certain narratives around eating 359 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: disorders and really really damaging rhetorics of being skinny and that, 360 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: and I think as well, we're definitely seeing a resurgence 361 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: of you know, the twenty tens two thousand's esque. 362 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: Body type and body shape. 363 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: That again, I'm like, fuck, Like, it's just it's something 364 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: we absolutely need to unlearn. And I still kind of 365 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: sit here sometimes when I see content that's. 366 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: Like what to wear, and I get it. 367 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: I get it's coming from a place of people maybe 368 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: feel certain ways about their body that they don't want 369 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: to accentuate some things, or maybe it makes them feel 370 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: comfortable to wear a certain thing. But that shouldn't be 371 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: fueled by the fact that you think you look a 372 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: certain way. It should be fueled by the fact that 373 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: when you wear something it makes you feel fucking. 374 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 2: Hot exactly, like it makes you feel fucking sexy. 375 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: Like I know that like for my body type, if 376 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: you will, I don't dress according to it. I like 377 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: I like oversized fits, I like wearing men's clothes. I like, 378 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: you know, not accentuating every single Like I don't like 379 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: wearing super super super tight clothing, Like I don't feel 380 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable in it. 381 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: It doesn't align to like my identity. But like it 382 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: would go against probably what every stylist's advice would be 383 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 2: to wear what's suited to my body type. But I 384 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: don't care because I like it. I like what they're wearing. 385 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you want to feel comfortable and like it's 386 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: reflective of who you are on the inside, which is 387 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: so cliche, but fuck it, it's true. 388 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think we. 389 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: Need to flip how we look at it and instead 390 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: of looking for clothes that hide certain things about ourselves, like, 391 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: we need to look for clothes that make us feel 392 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: more like ourselves. Again, like we said at the start, 393 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: it's a work in progress. My next thing that we 394 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: need to unlearn in our twenties or any age, is 395 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: only celebrating traditional milestones, because in our twenties it can 396 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: feel like a race towards a deadline. A lot of 397 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: people put pressure on themselves in their twenties to achieve 398 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: things by a certain age. 399 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: I think it's okay to have a bit. 400 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: Of an idea of what you want from your life 401 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: and things that you want to achieve in your life. 402 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: But I think if you're being like, Okay, I want 403 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: to get married by twenty five, have kids by twenty seven, 404 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: blah blah, like you sort of set yourself up for 405 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: failure if those things don't go to plan. 406 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: Dude, I'm so glad those things didn't go to plan. 407 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: Did you have deadlines like that set up for yourself? 408 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: Ever? 409 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were with absolutely not the right people 410 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 2: as well. 411 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: That like, by having those deadlines, if I stuck to it, 412 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: I would have been really unhappy. 413 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would have been with the wrong person. 414 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: I would have been stuck with responsibilities that I wasn't 415 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: ready for. And yeah, I just wouldn't have the experiences 416 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: under my belt that I'm glad I have all the 417 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: career and friendships and people in my life if I 418 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: stuck to those deadlines that. 419 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: I made up and gave to myself. 420 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: Literally and the arbitrary deadlines they're made up that don't 421 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: really mean anything, and they can be really restricting. But 422 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: also it means that we're only celebrating these really traditional 423 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: milestones in our life, such as buying house, getting engaged, getting. 424 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: Married, having children. 425 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: These are all amazing things, definitely worth celebrating. 426 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: Grab a bottle of sheep, yeah, honestly. 427 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: But something for myself, which I've spoken about on the show, 428 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: is that, like my whole life, I've never seen those 429 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: things like getting engaged having kids in my timeline, so 430 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily have deadlines for those things for myself. However, 431 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: in my later twenties and now even in my thirties, 432 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: I do think to myself, like, all of these people 433 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: around me are getting engaged, having kids, which is amazing, 434 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: and there's so many opportunities to celebrate those things. But 435 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: I also I'm kind of like, when do I get 436 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: to celebrate something now, because once you turn you know, 437 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: like twenty one or thirty is like the last big 438 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: birthdayn to like fifty, right, Yeah, I would say forty probably. 439 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 2: I think my mom had a big forty. 440 00:22:58,960 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: Yes. 441 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 2: No, I'm like, I'm like, that's good. Yeah, celebrate a 442 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 2: whole decade, I know, you know, that's. 443 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: A long time to not have anyone like say nice 444 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: things about you in a room full of people with 445 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, jelly shots in the corner. Yeah, exactly, I 446 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: think that whether or not you do plan to celebrate 447 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: those traditional milestones or not, Like, why not embrace opportunities 448 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: to celebrate more great things that we don't just women. 449 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: What should we celebrate? What's what's our next celebration for you? 450 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: Because now you've brought this to my attention, and as 451 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: the person in the world sub Chris who loves you 452 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: the most. 453 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, what are we going to celebrate? 454 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: You know what? 455 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: I love? You know? On Sex and the City. 456 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Samantha has a I don't have any babies party. 457 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: When I first. 458 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: Saw that, I was like, holy shit, that is such 459 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: a good idea. Wait, absolutely, when should we do that? 460 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: Thirty five? Yeah, I reckon that's between I don't have 461 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: any babies party? Yeah, I think that's so fun. But 462 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: I do have a list of that I think that 463 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: we can celebrate. Okay, hit me, So things we need 464 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: to celebrate in our twenties and beyond that isn't getting married, 465 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: baby showers, or buying a house, moving out, getting a promotion, 466 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: or leaving a job that you hate, or leaving a 467 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: man that you hate. 468 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: Yes, that's definitely one. Leaving a relationship that you're not 469 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 2: happy in or a friendship, paying off debt or your hex. 470 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: More of us need to have payoff parties. Yeah, because 471 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: I broke up with Hex. 472 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: Yes, breaking a bad habit, finding a passion or purpose 473 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: and taking a risk. 474 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, why not. It doesn't have to be. 475 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: A huge party. It can just be, Hey, I paid 476 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: off my Hex. Can we go for a drink? 477 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: Yes, Friday? I want a. 478 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: Toast to something, get a cake and having more things 479 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: like that. And I think you and I especially, we 480 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: don't do this enough and celebrate the little wins that 481 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: we have along the way. 482 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: And I think everybody needs to do that more. 483 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: I think everyone listening to this needs to put in 484 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: a celebration for something that they've achieved this year or 485 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: will achieve. 486 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 2: That's everyone's homework. Yeah, let us know in the comments 487 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: what you're going to do. Okay, Okay. 488 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: My final one is a quickie and yeah, my favorite. 489 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 2: And the thing we need to. 490 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: Unlearn in our twenties is that a romantic relationship is 491 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: the final goal. And I'm saying this as well as 492 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: someone who has entered a relationship that fingers crossed is 493 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, gonna gonna go the lot the full road. 494 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: But I do remember in my twenties thinking that I 495 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: was never going to meet someone. There was definitely a 496 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: point that I absolutely was like, oh shit, there's like 497 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't actually think I'm ever gonna get ma read 498 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: or meet anyone that's like a life partner because it's 499 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: just not gonna happen to me. But and there's a 500 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: big butt to this, I actually was okay with that 501 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: because when I looked around, I was like, I have 502 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: so many amazing friends and by that I mean three, yeah, 503 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: you know I had at that point and still have 504 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: three really really fucking amazing best friends. That I was like, 505 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: that's okay, like that these are my life partners. 506 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: Like I didn't. 507 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: I realized I didn't need that one romantic relationship to 508 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: feel as though my relationships with other people CUP was 509 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: full because obviously we use the term relationship and we 510 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: reserve it only for romantic relationships and not necessarily for 511 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: platonic Yeah, and we are definitely moving away from this again. 512 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: This is something that we're celebrating more, Like more and more, 513 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm seeing more interviews and books and including ours, and 514 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, articles about the joy and importance and beauty 515 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: of platonic and female friendships and just friendships as a 516 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: whole that I'm like, we don't need to strive for 517 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: this one thing to be like, yay, did it? 518 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Dan, Like that's not the big. 519 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: Gold trophy on the top of a mountain to be 520 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: like you are now deemed worthy because you are in 521 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: a partnership with someone and you sometimes have sex. Yeah, 522 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: because that's that's the difference, you know, like between your 523 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: friends and a romantic relationship. 524 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: One has desire and you. 525 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: Know, a sexual esque nature to it, not including you know, 526 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: asexual relationships of course, But and I'm just like, I'm 527 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: just so so happy that this is getting the time 528 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: in the sun that it is because it's still a 529 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: narrative that's push but it's becoming one that we're unlearning. 530 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think. 531 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: I think that that's how people end up settling for 532 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: less when they feel like they have to have a partner. 533 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: But I think it also goes the. 534 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: Same for friendships too, like when people feel like they 535 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: have to have a huge group of friends or they 536 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: have to have a best friend. You actually don't need 537 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: any of these things as long as you have a 538 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: good relationship with yourself, and then the relationships that you 539 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: find with other people. They don't have to fit any 540 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: sort of mold. Yeah, it's just whatever feels right to you. 541 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: And I do think that having supportive friendships is a 542 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: huge part of that. But that could be a group 543 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: of ten people that you've known since high school, or 544 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: it could be one person literally, Okay. And that's the 545 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: thing as well, is like, even getting into a relationship 546 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: that then didn't become the priority over you know, my 547 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: friendship with you, it didn't lessen it. I was like, 548 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: all right, thanks for your time, great work over the. 549 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: Last five years, ten out of ten. 550 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: Good Now, thanks, thanks babe, here's your resignation. 551 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 552 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: That it's still like even when I was, you know, 553 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: getting into this relationship, it was like, just so you know, 554 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: this person is also. 555 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: The love of my life. I was saving like, hey, hey, mawn, 556 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: I've seen many of you over the years. You think 557 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: you're gonna stick around, bitch? No, I was like, please 558 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: stick arount you were like, I thank you. You're the 559 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: only one I've ever liked. But yeah, it also doesn't 560 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: lessen the ones that you do have. Yeah, so wholesome. 561 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: Wholesome bitch, let's make out, pulls a bitch calls a bitch. 562 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: All right, well is that a rap? It is a rap. 563 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: That is a rap. 564 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: I would love to know all the things that chicks 565 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: think we need to unlearn in their twenties. So tell 566 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: us in the comments on Spotify socials, d m us 567 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: all that fun. 568 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: Send us a pigeon, Send us pigeon pige. 569 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: Okay, we got excite story, No, we can't show. There 570 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: was a lady at Bondi Junction who lost her pet 571 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: pigeon and she made a post in Facebook and I 572 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: saw it and it made me sad. So I had 573 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: to bring Sail down with me, and so I sent 574 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: her the post. And they never found Pitche, and so 575 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: it's a really they found Pitge. They found Pitche. 576 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: Oh, thank god. He was so cute. He was really cute. 577 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: He was the only pigeon I've ever trusted. All the 578 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: pigeons I'm not quite sure about. 579 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: No, I like them. I feel bad for pigeons. I 580 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: feel bad for pigeons. 581 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: They were brought into a world when we needed them, 582 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: and then cast aside when we decided we didn't cut 583 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: damn the man anyway, That is a ripe. On today's episode, 584 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, cheeks for having us in your 585 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: ear holes. We love it to be here and shout 586 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: out to m Aka Made for making this episode of 587 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: two Broke We. 588 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: Happened, Bye Bye. The bat was a pastu