1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Hello, I'm torri Archbold. For two decades, I've nurtured the 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: world's top performing retail brands and celebrities. Now I'm asking entrepreneurs, CEOs, 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: and influencers to share their own secrets to success. They're highs, 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: their lows, the game changing moments, and how they got 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: to where they are today. It's a podcast equivalent of 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: opening the best Little Black Book of Contacts Ever. If 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: this resonates with you and you're ready to step outside 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: of your comfort zone and into your power zone, I 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: invite you to join my exclusive community via our website, 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Powerful dash Steps dot com. Welcome to the Powerful Stories podcast, 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: where we bring you exclusive interviews with some of the 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: most inspiring and influential people around the world today. I 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: am delighted to welcome DeAndre Simmons, are a nowned businesswoman 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: and star of the Housewives of Dallas. She's joining us 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: to share her incredible journey, her experiences and insights that 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: will make you want to take your own powerful steps 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: in business and life. So DeAndre, are placing yourself outside 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: of your comfort zone and can be tough as a female, lada, 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: a wife, a step mom. What has been your most 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: challenging yet rewarding time in this lifetime. 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: There's so many and we were chatting before Torri, let's see. 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: I definitely think that being a step mom was a 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: difficult segue for me because I wasn't a parent and 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: my own right and my husband came along with two boys, 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: and even though they lived in South Carolina, they lived 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: with us. Actually they just moved out about in December. 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: They lived with us for a year and a half. 28 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: And if Housewives was continuing on, that would have been 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: another part of our story. The first year I was 30 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: on Housewives, I was not. I was kind of like 31 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: this with my step my step son Keaton, but we 32 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 2: worked things out because I'm a very ambitious person and 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: trying to instill that into someone else's children. I was 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: trying to do what I thought was the best thing 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: for them. However, that may not be their path, and 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: I had to learn to let go and not try 37 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: to force it because they have to come to their 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: own decisions about what their path is. My path overachieving 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: and success may not be theirs. They may just be 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: happy with the status quo, but that's okay. I have 41 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: to be okay with them being okay. With what their 42 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: choice is. So that was hard. Of course you're going 43 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: to ask me, I mean, pausewise, what was the hardest 44 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: thing I've ever done in my life? That was a 45 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: crazy ride. And it's it's not over yet, so we'll 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: see what happens. We're just on hiatus and all the 47 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: other goals. I think think it's over, but I've heard 48 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: from network executives that it's it's not over, so we'll see. 49 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: I think they were looking at Miami and kind of 50 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: seeing where they were and what they were going to 51 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: do with that show, and they brought it back to network. 52 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: But that was probably the most difficult I'm trying to 53 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: think and rough time in my life because I wasn't 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: used to the persecution online and I always want everybody 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: to like me, and being an actress, you want people 56 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: to like you, and you're told no all the time, rejection, rejection, rejection, 57 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: and you have to get used to it. But then 58 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: this is such an invasive way of people seeing your 59 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: life because it's reality TV, so they think they know 60 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: you and you signed up for it, so you're you're 61 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: guilty because you signed up to be on this TV 62 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: show and they can do whatever and ask anything and 63 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: say anything about you. It doesn't matter. There's no holes barred. 64 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: That was difficult for me because I would, no matter 65 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: how much I dislike someone, I would never go on 66 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: to a social media channel and say that because it's 67 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: just not in my character and my personality. Also, there 68 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: is something most people don't know about me, is that 69 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm a survivor of domestic violence. And when I told 70 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: that story to the Salvation Army Women's luncheon in Dallas, 71 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: my mother was mortified. I did it because I thought 72 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: it was really important for people to know that women 73 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: like me can have that situation and can overcome and 74 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: become empowered through something like that, because you learn a 75 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: lot of lessons about who you are and how to 76 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: not repeat those mistakes. And telling that story was the 77 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: hardest thing I ever probably did personally in my life. 78 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: But there were so many women that you would be 79 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: shocked if I told you the names that came forward 80 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: and said thank you so much, and they were crying, 81 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: and I knew they were in the same situation or 82 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: have been in the same situation. So even though it 83 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: wasn't my parents and like me doing it, I did it, 84 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: and it was good for me. 85 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: You know what, I can relate to that because I 86 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: think that, on one hand, you and I are very 87 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: similar because you have this success, You've built these companies, 88 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: You're an entrepreneur. I've also blended my family. I have 89 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: a step son, I have an eighteen year old daughter. 90 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: But before I met my husband, we had a success 91 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: in survival story as well. And I always felt that 92 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: if I came forward and spoke about what happened behind 93 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: closed doors, I was going to be judged, people would 94 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: walk away, it would affect my business, and we were 95 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: approached by Marie Clare magazine to tell the story. It 96 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: took me four months to make that decision. Wow, And 97 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: when I went to print, it was actually after we'd 98 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: had Drew Barrymore launching Flower Beauty in Australia. And I 99 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: waited until she left because I didn't want to take 100 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: the spotlight of what we were doing for her. But 101 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: I also knew that it was going to be one 102 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: of those breakthrough moments where I was literally stripped bare 103 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: and excuse my French, but what the fuck were people 104 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: going to I was so scared and it wasn't just 105 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: my story, it was my family's story. But what I 106 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: noticed him stepping forward. Was that the most incredible people 107 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: stepped forward as well. And by actually breaking down those 108 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: barriers and standing in your truth, it's incredibly empowering. How 109 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: hard was it for you to make the decision to 110 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: step forward and actually stand in your truth? 111 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: Well, of course I had to tell my husband first, 112 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: and it was it okay if I told the story 113 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: and would he be supportive? And my husband's very supportive, 114 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: so he said, you have to do what's right for you, 115 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: and if you can help other people, other women, then 116 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: you definitely need to tell the story. My mother said, 117 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: that's a bad idea because you've got to look at 118 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: my mother generation, she's eighty two, my grandmother, they were 119 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 2: all people that read an Lander's column, and Landers says, 120 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: don't air your dirty laundry, so don't tell about you know, 121 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: don't take out the trash, don't tell about what's happened 122 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: in your life. My mother, I think it was the 123 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: most difficult with my mother and my aunt. My mother 124 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: is the only living relative really, my stepmother and I 125 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: don't really speak, and my step brother. Unfortunately, that's a 126 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: very difficult thing in my life because my biological father 127 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: committed suicide, and it caused cavalcade of issues afterwards with 128 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: the family, inheritance and things of that nature. And that's 129 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: a big regret too, because I did my best and 130 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: I tried to split everything evenly, but that's not what 131 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: they wanted. And so you know, I'm always trying to 132 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: be fair, so that was hard, but it was hard 133 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: for my family. I'll be honesty. Back to your the 134 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: very core of your question is it was hard to 135 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: talk to my mother about it and have her sit 136 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: there in the audience, and I'm sure she was a 137 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: little bit embarrassed and ashamed that it had happened to 138 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: me and that I was telling the story. So it's 139 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: just a different generation. But then you think, okay, fast 140 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: forward to housewives. I went on housewives. On Housewives, it's 141 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: a reality show, so that prepped me for let's talk 142 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: about what's really happening. I could care less if we 143 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: are having an issue with my companies, which we did financially. Otherwise, 144 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: all these women were trying to embarrass me by saying 145 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: I was poor, I was this, I was that. Okay, fine, 146 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 2: you can try to embarrass me, but I've been through 147 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: so much more as a woman. This is nothing. I 148 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: can overcome that. And it also allowed me to be 149 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: feel free to speak about anything and everything that was 150 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: actually happening, because I'm not embarrassed because so many people 151 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: come back and they say thank you. There was one time, 152 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if you if you ever saw the 153 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: show or not, that one of the girls tried to 154 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: talk about my past when I was in my twenties 155 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: and I was an actress in Hollywood and just like 156 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: anybody in the nineteen eighties and nineties, got involved with 157 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: the wrong crowd and I did go to a rehab program. Well, 158 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: I was twenty seven years old at the time. She 159 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: mentioned it on the show in front of Andy Cohen 160 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: at the reunion. Had nothing to do with the show, 161 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: nothing to do with the show, was just she was 162 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: trying to retaliate. She thought I would lie, and Andy said, 163 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: is that true? I said, yes, Andy, it's true. I 164 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: said I was twenty seven, I'm fifty one. Does it 165 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: matter at this point? And I said, next question, please, 166 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: And that was it. And then people from all over 167 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: the country and all of the world were saying, thank 168 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: you for being honest. What did happened? Tell me about 169 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: your story and the fact that you actually stood up 170 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: to these women and said, yeah, that happened to me, 171 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: and let's move on instead of trying to hide it. 172 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: So I don't hide anything about my life. That's my 173 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: mother says, it's I'm My husband says I'm an overshare, 174 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: and so does my mother. But that's my generuption. 175 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: Do you know what I love about Indianda. I love 176 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: the fact that you're like, I'm owning my truth. Yes, 177 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: and I've got happiness in my heart and that's all 178 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: that maddens. And I honestly think that when you anchor 179 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: a remove to your you know your truth, your values, 180 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: to your intent and your purpose, you can actually create 181 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: and deliver a bigger impact. And I've never understood on 182 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: those shows, why are the women want to drag others 183 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: down rather than being there to actually lift others up 184 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: and show other women how they can be empowered to 185 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: live their best life. 186 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: What your past is? Your past? Who gets well? I 187 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: think the genesis of the show is a little bit 188 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: they want that drama and they want those kind of things. 189 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: I don't know the last season when we had my 190 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: friend tiffany on and there was all this in our country, 191 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure in Australia too, a mention of racial tensions 192 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: that are happening the last five years, and so I 193 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: really tried to handle that in a I would say 194 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: the best way I could, above board and just say 195 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: you know, I didn't know. I would love to learn 196 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 2: some lessons. I should have had maybe a luncheon or 197 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: a dinner and had Tiffany explain to us how when 198 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: she came to this country what it was like, and 199 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: then we could have had understanding. That's my mistake and 200 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: I owned it, but everyone else wanted to fight about it, 201 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: and that's not a fight that's not across you want 202 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: to die on. So it's better to learn learn something 203 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: from the situation. I learned a lot from how I 204 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: handled it, and I thought I handled it well at 205 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 2: the time. I couldn't handled it better. So there are 206 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: times where you can uplift and there are times when 207 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: they they they're really going to make you downship no 208 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: matter what, because that's what they want. They want the fights, 209 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: they want the silicious material. Let's face it, they want 210 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: the clickbait. 211 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: So Sydney Housewives they ran it and they couldn't get 212 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: syndication anywhere in the world because it was known as 213 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: the bitchiest season globally, and. 214 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: It's taken them what's wrong with that? Didn't they like that? 215 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: It was awful? Like it was awful, it was toxic, 216 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: it was just it just was not a good reflection 217 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: of women. And so they've taken a lot of time 218 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: to actually select the next women so that it actually 219 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: is more empowering versus taking people down a funnel that 220 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: they don't want to go. 221 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: I wish they would do that, honestly, I wish they 222 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: would have Ours was a little campy. I was the 223 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: oldest person on the show. It was a little campy, 224 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: which is kind of more fun. But still I do 225 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: believe that you can be inquisitive and interesting and comedic 226 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: and not necessarily have to get in the dirt. So 227 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: when I was thrown in the dirt about my business 228 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: and I handled it, the other girl that did that 229 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: to me, I wanted head and said, well, what about 230 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: your relationship? Because she was hiding all this stuff and 231 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: then off the cup, I called her pr person. I 232 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: said it'd be better for her to tell the truth 233 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: because every woman in America is going to really have 234 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: this experience of someone cheating on them or being unfaithful 235 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: or having what I had domestic violence? So why not 236 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: go with the truth. It's much more interesting than this 237 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: fairy tale story. That's a bunch of bs and everybody 238 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: knows it. So, yeah, that's what I would have done. 239 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: That was why dear Simmis would have held it, but 240 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: she didn't. Yeah, it's like standing your truth. 241 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: Now I want to switch speeds because you are a 242 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: successful entrepreneur. You've had success in survival in your businesses. 243 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: You've got two one's called hard Night Good Morning skincare, 244 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: and you've also got a supplement company which boosts your 245 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: immune system, which I love this stuff. Right, How do 246 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: you turn up with so many different masks on? 247 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: You know? 248 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: Yes, stepmom, wife, entrepreneur, actress, housewife. How do you do it? 249 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: What drives you but also what keeps you saying? 250 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 2: So I was it's funny that you said that, because 251 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 2: today I was on the way home and now I'm 252 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: a chef. I don't know if you knew that or not. 253 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: Fun So I finished. I finished my executive culinary school program, 254 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: and immediately as I was driving away from the center, 255 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: I got a text about opening a restaurant from a 256 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: very prominent restaurant developer in Dallas, and I'm like, what 257 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: is going on? So now I think I'm in the 258 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: restaurant business too. So at three in the morning and 259 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: I was on the way home today, I was texting 260 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: him about an idea I had for the restaurant, and 261 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 2: I had twelve other things I was doing at the 262 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: same time. But I'm the best one. I'm the busiest. 263 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: So with a skincare hat. Before I was talking to 264 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: him the restaurant tour, I was on the phone with 265 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: my CEO talking about the skincare line and our meetings 266 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: that we're having with Nemon's and with a couple other 267 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: spas and things like that, and where are they and 268 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: have you talked to the person today? Also we're talking 269 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: to Central Market again about my nutrition supplements. We had 270 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: this skincare of it really doesn't fit there, but the 271 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: nutrition does. So and then so I was getting all 272 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: the run down because I'm leaving town. And then I 273 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: have Simply Simmons, which has also the food products that 274 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: we're coming out with, which are going to be rubs 275 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: and spices and sauces and different fried pies and things 276 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: like that. And then we also have a perfume launch 277 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: and it's called U Dutay and I own that as well. 278 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: I own about ten trademarks. I own everything that I 279 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: can think of. As soon as I think about it, 280 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: I just buy it. So I do. I think it's 281 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: more fun to have to wear a lot of different hats. 282 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure my COEO who is COO of Ultimate Living 283 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: Nutrition Supplements, which my mother started because she's a cancer survivor, 284 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: and our most important product in that line is the 285 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: green Foods powder that she created. She was the first 286 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: woman to create a green food powder. And then in 287 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: my other line is Hard Night Good Morning Skincare because 288 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: I had her skincare line before, and so we're in 289 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: that kind of offshooting. We also make essential oils. We're 290 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: doing a line of perfumes next. So I think she 291 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: probably is telling me she wants She doesn't say slow down, 292 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: but I just said, I want to kind of be 293 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: a Martha Stuart without the crafsy stuff. I'm not crafsy. 294 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: I'm domestic, but I'm not crassy. 295 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: Your mom is telling you to slow down, or the 296 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: COO colo says slow down because I've got too much 297 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: on my plate a little at times, so yeah. I'm like, 298 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: how do you manage this is a coo across all businesses? 299 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: She is, she is. 300 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, okay, so you got one direct client of contact. 301 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: So when you wake up in the morning, what do 302 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: you do to ground yourself? So, for me, in the morning, 303 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: like I got this Buddhist monk years ago who was like, 304 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: slow down, otherwise there is no life. And he told 305 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: me I needed to learn how to meditate. And I said, 306 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: I've got no time to meditate. I'm busy, I'm running 307 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: a business, I'm a single mom, I'm traveling all over 308 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: the world. And he goes, I don't want to hear 309 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: the bullshit. And he told me that I could meditate 310 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: in the shower every morning because it was the only 311 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: place that I was on my own right. Every morning, 312 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: I get like three drops of lavender oil, I put 313 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: on my decolage and I inhalexcel and it grounds me 314 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: and I'm able to navigate my day. And then before 315 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: I go to bed at night, I repeat it but 316 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: with gratitude. So this is like how I ground myself. Well, 317 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: I juggle my life right, but it brings me into alignment. Yeah, 318 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: so what's your ritual? Like how do you get up, 319 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: How do you start your day? How do you set 320 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: yourself up for success? 321 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: I hate to start my day. I'm a horrible morning person. 322 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: I don't talk to me before my coffee. Yeah, that's 323 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: after my shower. I'm a very good person in the morning. 324 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: I don't like to do interviews before eleven am. That horrible. 325 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: So when we're doing press tour and we had to 326 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: be up at four or five in the morning, and 327 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: for you know, I was just like, oh God, because 328 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: I start having all these inspirational ideas at three in 329 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: the morning, and I get up, turn my light on 330 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: and write them down. Because my husband sleeps with like 331 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: a canopy over his head so he can do his 332 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: little TV watching, which I don't do any tea or anything. 333 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: And then I can make my notes. But I do 334 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: so I have about twenty meditation apps to answer your 335 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: question that sit on my phone and I pay for 336 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: and I'm always going to do it, always going to 337 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: do it. And then I don't make time. The only 338 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: time I take for me, so to speak. So I 339 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: get up, I have my coffee, I kind of look 340 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: at the stock market, which I used to be a stockbroker, 341 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: so I trade some of my own accounts. So I 342 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: look at the stock market, see if I'm doing having 343 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: a good day or bad day, if I should even 344 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: look back. So and then I do. Sometimes I'll read 345 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: a devotional, Sometimes I'll do oracle card, sometimes I'll do 346 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: little mantra. It depends. I try to do something. The 347 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: benefit's small. 348 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: What's your favorite mantra? Because mine is a happy heart 349 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: is a magnet for miracles. 350 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: Well, probably my favorite mantra is what my purpose I 351 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: came up with for my life? Your purpose? So yeah, 352 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: my purpose for my life, which I try to live 353 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: by every day, is to live my life withuthenticity in 354 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: order to inspire others. That's it beautiful. So if I 355 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: wake up every morning and I have that written on 356 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: a piece of paper, so then and it's also it's 357 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: other places. But I came up with that because my 358 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: husband just looked at me one day, gause, what's your 359 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: purpose in life? And I was like, oh, And I 360 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: wanted to get it down to one sentence because I 361 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: didn't go through an exercise with a gentleman that was 362 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: a pr person years ago, and he had me do 363 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: this whole long exercise and I started with one hundred 364 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: and fifty words and I had to get it down 365 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 2: to six or five and it was the hardest thing 366 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: I ever did. And then when my husband looked at 367 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: me and said that, I thought, yeah, I really probably 368 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 2: need to do that because I need to come up 369 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: with one thing and stick to the one thing, because 370 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: that makes it a lot easier when you're trying to 371 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: live your life authentically. So inspiring other people and living 372 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: authentically is my two things. And so that, I guess 373 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: would be the closest thing. That's beautiful. 374 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: And then you've got authenticity. Do you live and die 375 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: by a value set as well? Because I'm assuming that 376 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: authenticity is in that value set, So I break mine 377 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: down into trades, passion, integrity. 378 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 2: Okay, So mine would be if I look back, going 379 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: back to the list of words I believe, and I 380 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: don't have him here. It's been a couple of years, 381 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: but dynamic was one of my words. Authentic was a word. 382 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: Inspiration was a word. Oh curious, I'm very curious. My 383 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: husbands me curious. George like the little book the Monkey 384 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 2: ask twenty five thousand questions. He's like, shut up, stop 385 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: asking questions. And there was one other word and not 386 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: that may not even exist anymore because I can't think 387 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: about it. But passion was all. I think Passion was 388 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: in there as well. Dynamic passion, curious, authentic, and inspiring. 389 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: Those are kind of the things that really drive me 390 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: every day. And am I doing those things to help 391 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: other people? So oh, compassionate. I believe it was compassionate. 392 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: Compassionate And people think I'm not compassionate because of my 393 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: personality that they see on the show, and I think 394 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 2: that comes from being, like I said, a survivor domestic 395 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 2: violence and not being real as touchy, feely and affectionate. 396 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: My husband's very affectionate. I have to learn that process 397 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: because of different things in my life. So it's not 398 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 2: that I'm a hard, bitchy woman. It's just that I'm 399 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: maybe not as soft as some of the other women 400 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: in my delivery. It's in my heart, but my delivery. 401 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: It all comes down to experience. 402 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: But also I love the fact that you say that 403 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: you're working on these and as women, I think as well, 404 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: it's so hard to ask for help, you know, Like 405 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: I know, my first business, I had it for two decades, 406 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: end up at the top of my game, but I 407 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: was afraid to ask for help because I was afraid 408 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: of being judged. Right, how do you ask for help 409 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: when you get stuck? 410 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: Well, i'll give you an example, though. It's just right 411 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: Aproposta right now in my life. So I when I 412 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 2: was looking at this culinary world, and I love to cook, 413 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: and I always cooked on Housewives on purpose. Every season 414 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: I did a show that was a cooking show because 415 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: I wanted to translate into a cooking personality. And I'm 416 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 2: a decent coker that I went to the culinary school program. 417 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: So when I left Housewives, Okay, there's so many women 418 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: on TV. But where is there a darth of women? 419 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: Where there's not a lot? And I looked around, I thought, 420 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 2: m barbecue. There's not a lot of barbecue women, and 421 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: they don't look like me. So there's a few, but 422 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: not a lot. And so let's see if I can 423 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: get into the barbecue world. So I shoved my way 424 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: and broke down the door and just started asking people 425 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: to teach me. And why would they teach me their secrets? 426 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: Why would they be interested? And they all said yes. 427 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 2: So I had to have the courage to go to 428 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: them and have them. I figured they would all laugh 429 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: at me because I was a housewife, make fun of 430 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: me and think this is ridiculous. This woman doesn't want 431 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 2: to learn how to barbecue. Why would we do this? 432 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 2: Why we waste our time? But I became friends with 433 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: them and then I asked and they they all said yes. 434 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 2: That one person that said no to me. 435 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: So I've got a question about these So for anyone 436 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: listening to these podcast, Tianja, what you're saying is, don't 437 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: be afraid to ask for help. People are gonna say yes. 438 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: And mimall showy is is if they say no, there's 439 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: away someone else. 440 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: If they say no, it's no right now and maybe not, 441 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: maybe it's not a know forever, and you're right, there's 442 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 2: always someone else. Go to the next person. Don't even 443 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: waste your time. Just go to the next person because 444 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: the next person will say yes, or the next person, 445 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: and don't be discouraged. 446 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: And you've really stepped into your passion and you're not 447 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: afraid at any age to try something new. For those 448 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: people listening that have been sitting on a big dream 449 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: and they're really scared about stepping out of the hot 450 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: mess that they might find themselves in now to actually 451 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: step into something which is purposeful, that's going to light 452 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: them up, that's going to give them that happy heart. 453 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: How do you recommend stepping into that moment in time? 454 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 2: The first thing is you just have to take that 455 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: leap of faith, and you have to get yourself to 456 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: where you have to believe in yourself first and have 457 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: the value and the self worth that you need to 458 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 2: be able to do that. And a lot of people 459 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: if everything starts at home, and when I say it 460 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: starts at home, it starts within ourselves. So we have 461 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: to have the light inside of our heart in our 462 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: lives before we can go out and show it to 463 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 2: other people and express our desires. And I always think 464 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: that if if I'm living and I'm true to myself, 465 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: if you're true to yourself, it's really hard to go wrong. 466 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: When you start fearing and doing things that other people 467 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: tell you you should do instead of what you want 468 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: to do, that's when it all goes to pot. It's 469 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: my dad, you say it's all going to pot, you know, 470 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: and mean pot in a cattle, not like Pot's book. No, 471 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: I mean it's just you know, it all goes wrong. 472 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: So just stay true to yourself. But you have to 473 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: step out and you have to take the first you 474 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: have to take the first step, the baby step of trying. 475 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: And if you don't know how to do that, ask 476 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: people or go online. There's lots of inspirational people that 477 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: can teach you that. You can go on YouTube and 478 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: get lots of free things and watch these people that 479 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 2: are successful. You don't have to pay for everything, and 480 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: or read a book about it, and I do my 481 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: research and then like with the barbecue thing, I did 482 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: my research, I found the people. I went to the 483 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: barbecue fest and I just started saying, I'm Deander Simmons, 484 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: I'm a real housewife. Don't like I really want to 485 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: learn barbacue. I just love that. 486 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: I absolutely love it because it's like, this is what 487 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm doing, I'm stepping into it, and this is what's happening. 488 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: How do you know to trust your intuition? Oh, that's 489 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: very How do you trust it? Like, how do you 490 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: trust Obviously you use oracle cards. I love oracle cards 491 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: as well. How do you trust yourself when you receive 492 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: a message? 493 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: I think that's something that we can all contend. That's 494 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 2: a lifelong process. And in fact, I was just thinking 495 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 2: about this the other day because I was thinking, you know, 496 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: my intuition is pretty I'm a Pisce's son, so my 497 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 2: intuition is pretty good. But sometimes it's not so great, 498 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: depending on where the planets are and all those kind 499 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: of things. But normally, in my gut, it's my first instinct, 500 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: that's the right instinct when and I'll still. I'll tell 501 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: you a little example. When I was in school, I 502 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: think I was in like third grade or something, and 503 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: we had to do a little project and they said 504 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 2: pick a number from one to ninety seven, and I 505 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: had thirty six my head. I didn't go with thirty 506 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: six because I was like, oh, it can't be thirty six. 507 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: It was thirty six and I would have won a prize. 508 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: So just that was my first lesson as to, okay, 509 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: I need to trust my intuition because it's normally right. 510 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 2: If I have a bad feeling about someone in my gut, 511 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: it's normally right. So that I think you just have 512 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: to listen, be still, so a couple different things. Be still, meditation. 513 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 2: When you're still, you hear and learn and get downloads. 514 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 2: In the Bible it says be still, know that I'm God. 515 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite verses. So when I'm still 516 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 2: is when I'm getting my best information and I can 517 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 2: get a download on something i'm confused about beautiful and 518 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 2: if I go against it, if I go against it, 519 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 2: then it's probably not. It's tough. 520 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: I do that every morning, that shower, Rachel, is when 521 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: I get my beautiful downloads and I trust that wholeheartedly, 522 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: which is, you know, it's such a beautiful way to 523 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: live is in flow and alignment. So for those people 524 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: that are really struggling with trusting themselves, what do they do? 525 00:24:59,440 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 2: What do they do? 526 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: Oh? 527 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 2: Goodness, Well, I've had I'll be honest with you. I've 528 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 2: had years of therapy. I mean, and I'm still going 529 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 2: to therapy and it helps me just having somebody to 530 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: talk to about not feeling worthy. You got to think 531 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 2: about how unworthy I felt as a woman that was abused. 532 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: So that's a big step from somebody in that situation 533 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: to where I am today and feeling like I can 534 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: do anything. I'm empowered to do anything. Nobody's going to 535 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: hurt me, nobody's gonna touch me, nobody's going to make 536 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: me feel fat, ugly, not good enough, not successful enough. 537 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: I mean, that's those are the things I struggled with, 538 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: and I think as an actor. As a child, I 539 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: struggled with that because my family wasn't really into me 540 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: doing that, and then I didn't look the part when 541 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: I was trying out in my teens and my twenties 542 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: because that was when there there were no curby women 543 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 2: and acting back then. So I just, you know, I just, 544 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's very difficult, but there's just so 545 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: many tools that are available now to educate yourself and 546 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: find a woman that you are inspired or empowered by 547 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: reach out. You will never know a lot of these people. 548 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: People reach out to me a lot, and I do 549 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: take the time if I can to, I'll reach back out. 550 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: And if it's not me reaching out, then I'll say, 551 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 2: somebody will send me the message and then I will 552 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 2: do my best to do something for that person to 553 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 2: help them or to give them a negative information or 554 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: inspiration or this is what I did, or this is 555 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: how I overcame that. I know what the struggle is 556 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 2: like and I've overcome it. I don't know if I've 557 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 2: helped by answering the question the way I did, because 558 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 2: there's not one thing. It's a life. Everything is a process. 559 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: For me, it's everyday process. There's some days I don't 560 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: feel worried about myself. That's just life. 561 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: And I love what you've also said about paying for 562 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: the stories and asking other women because I found when 563 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: I was at a crossroad, listening and tapping into the 564 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: power of what other people had experienced helped me step 565 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: into my power. Because there's something in this story that 566 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: you can always relate to that triggers you going, I 567 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: can take that step forward. 568 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. So like, look, for instance, your podcast, Okay, I 569 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: hope if somebody's just listening to it for the first 570 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 2: time today, go back and listen to the other episodes, 571 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: because you have inspiring women, empowered women every single time. 572 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: I don't know all of their stories, but I'm sure 573 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 2: one story will resonate with another woman that doesn't resonate 574 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: today with a woman. So that's how you do your research. 575 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: If you're not willing to work on yourself, then you 576 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: shouldn't get the reward. 577 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely right, Absolutely right, Deander, What is your next powerful step? 578 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 2: My next powerful step is deciding whether or not I 579 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: want to be a restaurant tour Do you do? 580 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm coming to America so that I can eat and 581 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: experience all the goodness that you are creating. So I 582 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: hope you make that happen. 583 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: And I'm working on a play now. I can't really 584 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 2: I'll tell you. I'll go back and tell you later. 585 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: But it's a very it's a women's it was a 586 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: women's it Calm in the nineties, and working with my 587 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: acting coach on one of the lead roles, I'm very 588 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 2: excited about it. So that'll be a fun thing for 589 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: me to come up to do in the next probably 590 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: a year, because a lot of these theaters are backed 591 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: up due to the pandemic. 592 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: Do you know what, I'd love to see a documentary 593 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: on your life with a pay it forward with all 594 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: of these experiences, because there are so many chapters that 595 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: will inspire people because you've worn so many masks and 596 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: you've stepped up and conquered each challenge. I think it 597 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: would be incredibly inspiring for women to tap into the 598 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: power of that. 599 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: Well. I appreciate that. I always my husband has a 600 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: podcast called Last Letters and as if tomorrow was your 601 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: last day, what would your last letter be? And he 602 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: always wants me to come on. I said, well, I 603 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: don't have any I haven't done anything with my life yet, 604 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: so you read so much. I said, I don't have 605 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: anything interesting to talk about her in part, I don't 606 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: think my life is that it's not inspiring enough. Yet 607 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: he thinks I'm wrong. But I listen to these incredible 608 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: stories and I think, how could I even compete with 609 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: these people that are on Medal of Honor winners. I mean, 610 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: people that have been shot, brought back to life, all 611 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: kinds of I mean, you know, just celebrities. It's very 612 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 2: it's scary to listen to it and think, what am 613 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: I going to say? Do you know what? I think? 614 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: The power of you is the fact that you show 615 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: up and you share, thank you, and you pay. 616 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: Forward your knowledge. I appreciate that. Thank you, sir, and 617 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: that's a blessing. So thank you for joining us today. 618 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: Thank you, Tory, Thank you. 619 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: For being here with me today. I trust that you 620 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: enjoyed listening to yet another powerful story. Sometimes we can 621 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: forget just how incredible we are as women and how 622 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: important it is to support each other. I'd love for 623 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: you to take a moment to review the podcast and 624 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: help support the show. You can also take a screenshot 625 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: of this episode and share it across your social media 626 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: be sure to tag me so that I can give 627 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: you a shout out too. I'm a true believer of 628 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: women supporting women, and I look forward to connecting with 629 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: you again soon. Much love, Tory,