WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 6 June

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you Shary. What a big notting is we have for

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<v Speaker 1>you tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's pause because World War II was the turning

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<v Speaker 2>point of modern Western civilization. The capacity to defeat the

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<v Speaker 2>Nazis in Europe and to defeat Imperial Japan in the

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<v Speaker 2>Pacific set us up for the freedoms that we enjoy today.

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<v Speaker 2>The generation that fought that war is the greatest that

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<v Speaker 2>has walked amongst us. They were the people who went

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<v Speaker 2>to parts of the world some had never heard of,

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<v Speaker 2>to of course take on the most difficult of challenges,

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<v Speaker 2>and way too many of them did not come back.

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<v Speaker 2>As we speak right now, it is nine o'clock in Sydney, Melbourne,

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<v Speaker 2>Canberra and Brisbane. It is one pm right now in France,

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<v Speaker 2>where the commemorations are taking place. This is the epicenter

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<v Speaker 2>of a day of commemorations because it is eighty years

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<v Speaker 2>ago today that the world was saved by the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>generation of Australians, people from the UK, people from Canada,

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<v Speaker 2>people from Australia, New Zealand, the United States, and so

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<v Speaker 2>many more. I live in eternal admiration for this generation

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<v Speaker 2>to have been able to know them, love them, and

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<v Speaker 2>be loved by them is one of the great privileges

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<v Speaker 2>of all of our lives, if, of course, you have

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<v Speaker 2>that family connection to World War II, like I assume

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<v Speaker 2>almost everyone does. The D Day landings were, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>the only way that the Allied forces had decided that

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<v Speaker 2>it was to push back upon the Nazis who had

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<v Speaker 2>captured France. The excellent commentator at Sky News in the UK,

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<v Speaker 2>who often provides the most exquisite detail during a royal

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<v Speaker 2>parade or a coronation, has Linty's talents to explaining this

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<v Speaker 2>moment in history eighty years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Operation had been planned for months and thousands of troops

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<v Speaker 3>gathered along the south coast of England waiting for the

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<v Speaker 3>optimum conditions to launch the invasion. To ensure success, the

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<v Speaker 3>Allies deployed a series of deception campaigns to fool the

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<v Speaker 3>Nazis and deflect German resources from the real target, with

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<v Speaker 3>bombing raids carried out right across northern France. After a

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<v Speaker 3>day's delay due to unfavorable weather conditions, Operation Neptune, the

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<v Speaker 3>naval aspect of the invasion, began around midnight of the

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<v Speaker 3>sixth of June an hour later, and the first British

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<v Speaker 3>and American planes flew over, normally dropping around thirteen thousand

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<v Speaker 3>paratroopers behind enemy lines and attacking key strategic German positions

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<v Speaker 3>from above. D Day had begun. Various problems in including navigation,

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<v Speaker 3>communication and heavy enemy fire, meant that many of the

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<v Speaker 3>paratroopers landed off course, leaving scores dead or missing. Attention

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<v Speaker 3>then turned to the beach assaults. German military leaders were

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<v Speaker 3>expecting an invasion, but they believe the attacks from the

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<v Speaker 3>air were only an attempt to divert their attention before

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<v Speaker 3>an attack further up the coast near to Calais. The

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<v Speaker 3>element of surprise helped tens of thousands of British troops

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<v Speaker 3>to establish a foothold on beaches code named Gold and Sword.

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<v Speaker 3>The Canadian forces themselves had another beach called Juno, and

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<v Speaker 3>seventy three thousand Americans arrived in small landing craft on

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<v Speaker 3>the westernmost beaches of Omaha and Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>It is an extraordinary moment in time, one that to

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<v Speaker 2>MENI of us take for granted that it happened, that

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<v Speaker 2>we've commemorated it, that we've marked it in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>but we must ask ourselves about what future generations will

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<v Speaker 2>know in detail of this time. I will never pretend

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<v Speaker 2>to be a war historian. I, like many, learn what

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<v Speaker 2>we do from documentaries and reading this and that. But

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<v Speaker 2>we still have amongst us the people who were there,

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<v Speaker 2>including this man eighty years on, remembering what had happened

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<v Speaker 2>to him and his fellow men, the last.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty two of the Queen. They didn't make it hold.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I'm prefelling a promise to my love are

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<v Speaker 4>going back and pan homage.

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<v Speaker 2>For his part, King Charles has spoken at the events

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<v Speaker 2>which have been taking place this morning, their time, tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>our time. Here is what the King had to say

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<v Speaker 2>in respect of this greatest generation.

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<v Speaker 5>Those who gathered here in Portsmouth would never forget the sight.

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<v Speaker 5>It was by far the largest military fleet the world

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<v Speaker 5>has ever known. Yet all knew that both victory and

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<v Speaker 5>failure were possible, and none could know their fate.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, events on both sides of the English Channel

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<v Speaker 2>for the most obvious reasons. Now today we learn of

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<v Speaker 2>the role of an Australian. An Australian who was part

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<v Speaker 2>of what happened eighty years ago and is part of

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<v Speaker 2>what is happening today. His name is Jim and he

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<v Speaker 2>was a World War II Veterani. He's a member of

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<v Speaker 2>the Sandgate RSL in Bruceban and he's one of a

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<v Speaker 2>very small number of World War II veterans that aged

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<v Speaker 2>between ninety nine and one hundred and six that have

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<v Speaker 2>been invited to Normandy. His nephew, Robert Bass said that

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<v Speaker 2>it was a fantastic thing to see him being given

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<v Speaker 2>the recognition that he deserves. Though it's not known widely,

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<v Speaker 2>around three thousand Australians participated in the D Day Landing,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course took place in Normandy, France, on this

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<v Speaker 2>day eighty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>We are indebted for their service.

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<v Speaker 2>We are forever mournful for those who lost their lives,

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<v Speaker 2>and we are for ever grateful for the country that

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<v Speaker 2>they built when they came home, when they came home

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<v Speaker 2>after defeating the Nazis and the Imperial Japanese. The countries

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<v Speaker 2>that they built of Australia, New Zealand, the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>the UK, Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>And so many more.

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<v Speaker 2>These are, in my view, some of the most special

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<v Speaker 2>people that have ever walked the earth, and way too

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<v Speaker 2>many of them left way too soon. As we would

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<v Speaker 2>say in Australia. Less we forget an age will not

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<v Speaker 2>weary them. But the reality is, of course, their number

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<v Speaker 2>things by the day, their service is extraordinary. Now, let's

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<v Speaker 2>pair of the steel in the spine of that generation,

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<v Speaker 2>of what they did during World War Two, and in

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<v Speaker 2>the country that they built, that produced so many wonderful things,

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<v Speaker 2>a modern safe country, a country that did not have

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<v Speaker 2>to worry about the ravages of war, and a country

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<v Speaker 2>that has now become so spoilt in its own safety

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<v Speaker 2>and a times self indulgence and arrogance that the types

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<v Speaker 2>of people who now rule our country are some of

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<v Speaker 2>the people that I want to talk about tonight. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to talk about the Prime Minister, the

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<v Speaker 2>Federal Parliament, the Premier, or the State Parliament. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about a local council. There's a local council

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<v Speaker 2>that SIDY called the Inner West Council. It is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the OsO Woke councils representing an OsO work area.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not what I wanted to talk about. What

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk about was just how far from

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<v Speaker 2>reality many of the things that we debate or obsess

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves about, and compare that within a couple of generations

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<v Speaker 2>to what is being spoken of right now in Normandy

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<v Speaker 2>and on the other side of the channel in the UK,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a motion last night at the Inner West

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<v Speaker 2>Council for all people who are on the council and

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<v Speaker 2>all people who are significant people who work at the

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<v Speaker 2>council to use their real names, not aliases when they

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<v Speaker 2>post on official websites of the council. That's how far

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<v Speaker 2>far we're fallham that firstly, this is what we debate

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<v Speaker 2>in our chambers, but more importantly that it is needed

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<v Speaker 2>to that people are so cowardly that they do not

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<v Speaker 2>use their own name when arguing their point on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>And these are the people who are elected to lead us.

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<v Speaker 2>The bloke that you've just seen is the councilor who

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<v Speaker 2>suggested everyone should be not hiding behind anonymous titles on

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<v Speaker 2>the internet. He tried to pass a rule that specifies

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<v Speaker 2>that counselors should not use aliases when they are administrators

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<v Speaker 2>or commenting on community Facebook groups.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh how far we have fallen. But guess what.

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<v Speaker 2>It was defeated almost unanimously. So not only do we

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<v Speaker 2>have the stupidity of that, that was what was being

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<v Speaker 2>debated in a Council Chamber in Australia that the group

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<v Speaker 2>of people who also were on that council did not

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<v Speaker 2>agree that you should not be anonymous when you are

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<v Speaker 2>commenting on community Facebook pages. Now, I know that to

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<v Speaker 2>compare anything to what we opened the show with is unfair,

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<v Speaker 2>but jeez, what an example of how far we have

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<v Speaker 2>fallen as a people and our priorities and the way

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<v Speaker 2>we carry ourselves in public. Everyone on that council should

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<v Speaker 2>be ashamed of themselves, firstly for voting it down. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 2>if they are hiding behind anonymity, they have no courage whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet they rule like kings and queens.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting off on telling us what they do each and

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<v Speaker 2>every day, getting off on the power of how many

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<v Speaker 2>bins you can have and.

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<v Speaker 1>What day they get picked up.

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<v Speaker 2>Committed to decolonizing the world, as if there was no

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<v Speaker 2>Second World War, as if there was no imperial Japan

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<v Speaker 2>that would have invaded Australia and did with Darwin, as

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<v Speaker 2>if there was not the Nazis who took Europe and

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<v Speaker 2>almost the United Kingdom. There are so many people that

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<v Speaker 2>are just not serious. That's not a common ond whether

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<v Speaker 2>people are smart or not. Because I don't pretend to

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<v Speaker 2>be some professor of anything. I'm a bloke with a

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<v Speaker 2>reasonable vocabulary who's able to remember quite a few things

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<v Speaker 2>and put them to you each and every night. I

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<v Speaker 2>pretend to be nothing other than what I am. But

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<v Speaker 2>the people who seek to rule us, compared to those

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<v Speaker 2>that have gone before, they are nothing. Yet they have

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<v Speaker 2>seemingly more power than ever before. And another example about

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<v Speaker 2>governments that aren't serious, and yeah, we're going to the

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<v Speaker 2>federal level here. Yesterday I'm in arm everyone United, pointing

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<v Speaker 2>at the Greens about how crazy they had gone in

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<v Speaker 2>part in the support of protests, which, let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>many of them actually mask themselves as being pro the

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<v Speaker 2>innocent Palestinians. But scratch not too far under the surface

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<v Speaker 2>and we start getting to people like that one that

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<v Speaker 2>was expelled today from the Australian National University, who was

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<v Speaker 2>all in on Hamas.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yesterday arm in arm was the Prime Minister in Peter

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<v Speaker 2>Dutton admonishing the Greens.

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<v Speaker 6>It is unacceptable that misinformation has been consciously and deliberately

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<v Speaker 6>spread by some Green senators and mpce. He have engaged

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<v Speaker 6>in this in demonstrations outside offices and online.

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<v Speaker 7>We stand as one in this chamber, or we should

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<v Speaker 7>stand as one to make sure that we condemned the

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<v Speaker 7>unacceptable levels of antisemitism that we see playing out on

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<v Speaker 7>our streets.

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<v Speaker 1>It has no place, and we.

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<v Speaker 7>Will take everything, every action we need as a chamber

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<v Speaker 7>to make sure that we condemn those acts of antisemitism

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<v Speaker 7>in our country. And the Greens political party today is

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<v Speaker 7>properly and rightly condemned.

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<v Speaker 2>Now in part one of the ways that the Greens

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<v Speaker 2>have been able to or at least the supporters of

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<v Speaker 2>the Greens, we should say, have been showing their muscle

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<v Speaker 2>or lack thereof, is in the process which had been

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<v Speaker 2>taking place at universities. Remember we've shown you plenty of times,

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<v Speaker 2>which does not show that the Greens are automatically evolved.

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<v Speaker 2>But remember the one in Brisbane particular, when they were

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<v Speaker 2>using the core flutes from the Greens the election posters,

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<v Speaker 2>and on the other side was where they were writing

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<v Speaker 2>some of the things they were saying at the protests. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, these university protests, this is all the sort

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, anti Vietnam style thing wrapped up in

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty first century bunch of people who you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have no courage in the world. Instead, they're just doing

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<v Speaker 2>it for the clicks. Their hunger stripe in the US

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<v Speaker 2>lasted what.

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<v Speaker 1>Half a day? Anyway, you know the stuff they say,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, it's Chris Kenny.

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<v Speaker 7>You're the name, right, But there's no need to call

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<v Speaker 7>me a creep.

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<v Speaker 8>The Antacs played a major role in the violence that

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<v Speaker 8>establish British mandate Palestine.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the stuff we were mentioning before, that's this

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<v Speaker 2>weird new left right now, there are very good and

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<v Speaker 2>very decent people who understand the extremes of what is

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<v Speaker 2>taking place, who understand that to criticize the Israeli government

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<v Speaker 2>is not to criticize the state of Israel, who believe

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<v Speaker 2>that things have gone too far in Gaza. But none

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<v Speaker 2>of those people are involved in these protests. None of

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<v Speaker 2>these people are the ones who turn on students who

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<v Speaker 2>again are Jewish in Australia. They're not the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>of Israel, They're not part of any government anywhere. They

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<v Speaker 2>are people amongst us who deserve to be free to

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<v Speaker 2>practice their religion, and yes, in a world of free speech,

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<v Speaker 2>believe what they believe. But when it starts turning to

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<v Speaker 2>where it has of recent months, well we all know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on here, But literally twenty four hours ago

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister was all waving fingers and carrying on

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<v Speaker 2>about the Greens and about their role in things, and

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<v Speaker 2>about how important it was to make sure that any

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<v Speaker 2>sort of racial or religious discrimination was not acceptable in Australia. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the question of the Greens and

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<v Speaker 2>their obvious views that are not in the mainstream, there

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<v Speaker 2>was an opportunity to have an inquiry. It was quite

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<v Speaker 2>an inquiry into the madness on campus. But Labour turned

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<v Speaker 2>around and voted it down. So yesterday, look at us,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go after the real problem that in part is

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<v Speaker 2>directly funded by the Australian government. No, those people are

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<v Speaker 2>going to vote Green and they preference Labor. They're going

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<v Speaker 2>to vote Labor. Need them to stay in power. Also

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<v Speaker 2>interesting too, when the Labor Party was asked directly today,

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<v Speaker 2>will you now put the Greens where they deserve to go,

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<v Speaker 2>which is last on the ballot paper?

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<v Speaker 9>Here's the question, will the Prime mister commit to preferencing

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<v Speaker 9>Grand candidates last in every elector of the next election.

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister's answer.

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<v Speaker 4>You've hinted in your ruling there what my answer will be,

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<v Speaker 4>mister Speaker, which is that those matters are all matters

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<v Speaker 4>for the organization of the party.

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<v Speaker 1>This is that we went through.

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<v Speaker 6>But we won't be We won't certainly won't be taking

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<v Speaker 6>elections lectures from the mob who want to preference one nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm sure that somebody will take three days write

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand words in the Guardian to this question, but

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<v Speaker 2>do you really think that one nation is worse than

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<v Speaker 2>the Greens?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that there are political parties that they would

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<v Speaker 2>not want to give their preferences to. So okay, let's

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<v Speaker 2>go Green's last, one nation, second last, all the other

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<v Speaker 2>way around.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's not, in terms of Labor.

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<v Speaker 2>Send preferences to the very people who are going to

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<v Speaker 2>take Australian politics to the far left. Before paul In

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone else gets annoyed with me. I'm not suggesting

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<v Speaker 2>you should put one nation last. I'm talking about to

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<v Speaker 2>the bosses of the Labor Party. And then, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>after this next election, if the polls are right, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in a minority scenario. So can the

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<v Speaker 2>government right now say they will not play any games

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<v Speaker 2>post minority with the Greens.

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<v Speaker 7>My question is to the Prime Minister, Prime Minister. Given

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<v Speaker 7>the anti submitted conduct of the Greens political party and

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<v Speaker 7>the Prime Minister's justified condemnation of them yesterday, will the

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<v Speaker 7>Prime Minister rule out governing with the support of the Greens.

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<v Speaker 1>Are your reckon happens now?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm reminded of their Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and

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<v Speaker 6>what the meaning of life is in this case, the

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<v Speaker 6>meaning of life is seventy eight, which is how many

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<v Speaker 6>members that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>Over this side.

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<v Speaker 6>We seek majority government, I said very clearly and consistently.

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<v Speaker 6>Safe consists oh.

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<v Speaker 2>A bloke who claims to hate the Greens but needs

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<v Speaker 2>them to exist in order to get anywhere near seventy six,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the majority, let alone seventy eight, which is.

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<v Speaker 1>What they have.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventy seats that Labor hold in the Parliament come with

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<v Speaker 2>Green preferences, so spare me any garbage. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>proven within twenty four hours when they had a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to have an inquiry into what's been happening in the

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<v Speaker 2>university campus say oh no, no, this is all just

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<v Speaker 2>a pantomime. It wouldn't actually want to expose the behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>For his part, Adam Bant was running around threatening to

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<v Speaker 2>call in the lawyers because of things that had been said,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course has a chilling effect on anyone criticizing

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<v Speaker 2>the Greens madness. Now, obviously, last year we spend four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty million dollars to go yes or no

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<v Speaker 2>about whether there should be a change to the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 2>The polls went from sixty forty yes to sixty forty

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<v Speaker 2>hell no. And there were many big companies who decided

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<v Speaker 2>to go all in because of course they're morally better

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<v Speaker 2>than you. They're morally better than the majority of people

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<v Speaker 2>in Western Australia, South Australia, Tasmania, the New South Wales, Victoria,

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<v Speaker 2>the Northern Territory, Queensland. They are the moral equal of

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<v Speaker 2>people in the Act who, by the way, this week

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<v Speaker 2>of poll came and said seventy seven percent of them

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<v Speaker 2>said that immigration was too high.

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever, they're better than us.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was obviously a moment where the companies were

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<v Speaker 2>over here, but the public was over there, something noticed

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<v Speaker 2>by the No campaign, who of course was able to

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<v Speaker 2>win the public over with much less money and much

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<v Speaker 2>less corporate support.

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<v Speaker 10>And this whole process lately with the corporates, for instance,

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<v Speaker 10>like what the hell have the corporates got to do

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<v Speaker 10>with what we want to do as Aboriginal people and

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<v Speaker 10>what we want to do and celebrate in that.

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<v Speaker 2>So have companies learned their lesson answer no at a

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<v Speaker 2>conference today, an ESG conference, So of course it's all

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<v Speaker 2>the yeah man's. The companies have said that they are

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<v Speaker 2>undeterred by the failure of the Voice referend and put

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<v Speaker 2>simply that they will continue to use their capital to

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<v Speaker 2>keep pushing political causes. And when the money's gone woke,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to defeat it, which is why you're not

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<v Speaker 2>given the opportunity of a plebiscite or a referendum that regularly.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead you get your vote every three years if the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister had his way every four years. And the

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<v Speaker 2>issue that they completely screwed you over two years ago

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<v Speaker 2>you've completely forgotten about because look over here, look over here,

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<v Speaker 2>Well there was a fascinating little thing that happened in

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<v Speaker 2>the new South Wales Parliament and be under parliamentary privilege,

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<v Speaker 2>I can play this for you. But a National MP

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<v Speaker 2>for Parks, Mark Coulton is his name, has come forward

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<v Speaker 2>and made an allegation that somebody who should otherwise be

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<v Speaker 2>working and an organization working helping indigenous people and that

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<v Speaker 2>part of New South Wales has had their funding cup

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<v Speaker 2>and they are no longer part of the efforts in

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<v Speaker 2>that part of New South Wales. Why because they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>come out and support the yes case again Parliamentary privilege,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Colton Parks MP have a look at this.

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<v Speaker 9>Clearly Ready has a mindset of local solutions driven by

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<v Speaker 9>local people and they were not supportive of a Canberra

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<v Speaker 9>based group of people that they felt would not represent

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<v Speaker 9>their issues. Mind you, eighty percent of my electorate felt

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<v Speaker 9>the same way, including many of the people that Ready helps.

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<v Speaker 1>Now my apologies, Federal Parliament got to be going on tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes on to.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about how he believes that this organization has been

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<v Speaker 2>essentially sidelined again because of the politics and the fallout

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<v Speaker 2>of the Voice.

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<v Speaker 9>I feel that the Regional Enterprise Development Institute and all

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<v Speaker 9>the people that they support are going to be victimized.

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<v Speaker 11>Because of a position that they took in a democratic

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<v Speaker 11>country where we have freedom of choice, where the Aboriginal

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<v Speaker 11>people in that organization decided they would rather manage their

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<v Speaker 11>issues more locally and did not support that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's his allegation that people there's a bit of revenge

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<v Speaker 2>being played here by the industry against those who were

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<v Speaker 2>not with the vibe of the industry. Instead, they were

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<v Speaker 2>with the extreme majority of people in the seat of

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<v Speaker 2>Parks and with the majority of people in the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of states. In fact, everywhere bar the Act.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I've got some good news for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Miles, the Queensland premier, seen here trying to rustle

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<v Speaker 2>up votes and people just walking.

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<v Speaker 1>Straight past him.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a union spent a fair amount of money trying

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<v Speaker 2>to put an opinion poll out this week. We mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>it to make it seem like, Oh, things are not

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<v Speaker 2>as bad as they seem when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 2>polling for the upcoming Queensland election. Well, reality has now

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<v Speaker 2>struck because Channel nine last night had an exclusive new polling,

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<v Speaker 2>and this one shows Queensland is ready to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of this horrific government.

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<v Speaker 3>Nine News has obtained exclusive new polling showing the Stephen

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<v Speaker 3>Miles governments facing a wipeout at the state election. The

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<v Speaker 3>polling is the worst result for Labor since it came

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<v Speaker 3>to power in twenty fifteen, with their primary vote and

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<v Speaker 3>support for Stephen Miles plunging plunging.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could do that news rhythm. The Miles

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<v Speaker 1>government is in a serious amount of trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, just talk, but fair enough anyway, Please let's get

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<v Speaker 2>to the poll.

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<v Speaker 1>How bad are they doing.

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<v Speaker 8>LNP now in front fifty seven to forty three on

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<v Speaker 8>a two party preferred basis.

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<v Speaker 1>As for the premier.

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<v Speaker 8>Voters are also backing in David christ Iphoollyer's leader, with

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<v Speaker 8>a net favorability rating of plus fourteen compared to the

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<v Speaker 8>current premier, who rates negative eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that would be really unfair. That said, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to maintain the rage, you got to maintain the focus.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yourself neighbors, friends, family, doesn't matter how much money they

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<v Speaker 2>offer you. They're trying to buy you off with the

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<v Speaker 2>power bill thing and the trains thing. They'll come up

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<v Speaker 2>with a whole bunch of other ones. They'll try to

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<v Speaker 2>come up with every scare between now and then. But

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<v Speaker 2>thankfully the people of Queensland, when they turn you off.

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<v Speaker 1>You're done. That's why I love Queenslanders. Their BS detector

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>finally tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>It hasn't been great with this government, I must be honest.

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 2>They should have gone last time. But I'm pleased to

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<v Speaker 2>say that it's the detector is in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's make sure that it keeps going that way all

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<v Speaker 2>the way till the end of the year. About October,

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to it. Oh, let's talk about Channel nine

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<v Speaker 2>and their boss, Peter Costello.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, there's been a few stories over the past few

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<v Speaker 2>weeks about her rather full on and bloky culture. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the polite way of putting things. The former Treasurer of

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<v Speaker 2>Australia has been sitting pretty as the chairman of nine

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:55.199
<v Speaker 2>for a long period of time. Powerful man knows how

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<v Speaker 2>to pick up a phone and make things happen.

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<v Speaker 1>All the rest of it. Well, of course he's decided

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<v Speaker 1>to back in a CEO.

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<v Speaker 2>Who, by his own admission, has presided over not the

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<v Speaker 2>best of working conditions for many women inside that organization.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, it all links back to the former news boss.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the story, you know the details. Well, Petter

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<v Speaker 2>Costello has not spoken about the role of the chairman

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<v Speaker 2>about which member of the board knew about things that

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<v Speaker 2>were going on. So, as you may will have heard

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<v Speaker 2>by now, a reporter from the Australian newspaper went to

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<v Speaker 2>Canberra Airport to try to ask him the questions he

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<v Speaker 2>was ignored.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you've got to answer the questions, mister Costello.

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<v Speaker 1>What now?

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<v Speaker 2>This is serious because there is a reporter who has

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<v Speaker 2>been injured, the equipment has been damaged. But this is

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 2>the guy who used to be the Treasurer of Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the bloke who is the tippy top of

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<v Speaker 2>an organization which has got its problems right now. And

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 2>a bloke who didn't stop after the reporter got bowled over.

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>After the state of Origin style leaning. He didn't stop.

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<v Speaker 2>He just kept going why because it's just News Corp

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<v Speaker 2>Road killed behind him.

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<v Speaker 1>Presumably he even laughed.

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Thankfully, there were some people who had seen with their

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 2>own eyes what had happened, because inevitably there was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a whole collection of people in the media

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<v Speaker 2>that were going to turn around and say that nothing

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:50.719
<v Speaker 2>happened here, There was no contact whatsoever. Something magically tripped

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 2>the bloke over instead with their own words what they

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:57.360
<v Speaker 2>saw with their own eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>On me, because I'm trying to So you saw you

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<v Speaker 3>saw that?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He like pitting about here. I don't know, wats your

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 1>fall over there?

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<v Speaker 13>I was just said, I'm going to spoke on the phone.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, yeah, yeah, I just saw it'd been shacking up.

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>What was that about?

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 13>Oh sorry, so obviously said something that I'm.

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Just asking questions about the Mike Sneezebe thing.

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<v Speaker 14>So I'm on from the Australian and yeah, I thought

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 14>like he's trying to he was trying to say that

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<v Speaker 14>I walked into there, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, yeah, so I saw that. Yeah, Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, no doubt somebody is going to be studying CCTV

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<v Speaker 2>footage like the Zabruta film in the next twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>hours is away of somehow pretending that it was the

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<v Speaker 2>reporter's fault. But come on, you saw what you saw.

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<v Speaker 2>You saw the obvious contact. You saw no attempt to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of the way, you saw no attempt to

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<v Speaker 2>pull back. Instead, of course, you saw the moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>For his part, Petter Costello knows he's in a world

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<v Speaker 2>of pain. So he was in Canberra tonight to open

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<v Speaker 2>up a new facility that his company has at Parliament House,

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<v Speaker 2>and while he was there, a collection of reporters decided

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<v Speaker 2>to confront him. Notice the very careful language he uses here.

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<v Speaker 1>When I came through Camberra Airport.

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<v Speaker 13>There was a reporter walking backwards with his phone filming.

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 13>As I walked past him, he walked back into an

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<v Speaker 13>advertising play card and he fell over. I did not

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<v Speaker 13>strike him. If he's upset about that, I'm sorry, but

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<v Speaker 13>I did not strike him.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody said strike.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to see somebody produced the four hundred

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>thousand words to say nothing to see here. Your lion

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<v Speaker 2>eyes have been lying to you yet again now. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>it was interesting that when he made those comments in Canberra,

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<v Speaker 2>not one person actually asked the question that were being

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<v Speaker 2>asked of him at the airport about who knew what

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<v Speaker 2>and when and what responsibility will or won't be taken.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, if you don't want to answer questions, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to win Australia. But the idea that you

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<v Speaker 2>just ignore the person answer asking you the questions rather

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<v Speaker 2>than you said, look, man, i'm not going to say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, sorry, I'm not going to say anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And then if you see something that's getting close to

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<v Speaker 2>some level of a confrontation, either.

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<v Speaker 1>The bloke backing in or you leaning in, then you

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the way. But that didn't happen, did it.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course I guarantee by the time this is dissected,

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 2>it'll be.

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Your eyes that were lying, as opposed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the things that may will be said about

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<v Speaker 2>this incident in the coming days.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. And finally, Nigel Farajau dear friend.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to talk to him at some point

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<v Speaker 2>in time when he's back in London, but he's actually

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<v Speaker 2>going to is all over the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, as the new leader of the Reform Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, his idea here is to basically take existing Tory

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<v Speaker 2>seats and turn them into Reform seats. This is essentially

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<v Speaker 2>the right wing, the Boris Johnson wing, and a little

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<v Speaker 2>further of the Conservative Party, dropping Team Blue and picking

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 2>up Team Teal, which ironically is the color of Nigel

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<v Speaker 2>Faraja's Reform Party. There Well, Pole comes out last night

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<v Speaker 2>that this is getting close. Now, remember they have a

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<v Speaker 2>first past the post system in the UK, so labor

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<v Speaker 2>Well at forty percent wins a whole bunch of seats.

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<v Speaker 2>The Conservatives obviously would be higher than nineteen percent in

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<v Speaker 2>certain places, but Reform is right on their heels at

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen percent. In response, Niger Ferras Sa is just getting

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<v Speaker 2>started now, I'll be honest, I was not going to

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<v Speaker 2>pay too much attention to the UK election because it's

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<v Speaker 2>a foregone conclusion that Labour's going to win. But now

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting, will people say, bugger the Tories, I'm going

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 2>with Nigel and then that is what becomes the opposition

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<v Speaker 2>or the first part of the post system means it's

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<v Speaker 2>Nigel and a couple of others that make it through

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<v Speaker 2>to the part. We'll all wait, we'll all see, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>all learn together. Thanks for watching big one here tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me who do you think the winner and loser

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<v Speaker 2>of the week. I think the chairman of a certain

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<v Speaker 2>company might make the list tonight BNU sec Ah how

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<v Speaker 2>Good's Thursday Ladies Night, this evening and two are the

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<v Speaker 2>best Join us, of course, none other than one for

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<v Speaker 2>Christy McSweeney joining us from Melbourne and the equally lovely

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa god Are joining us from Brisbane.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>The incident of utter blokiness, that is the former treasurer,

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<v Speaker 2>the chairman of the Nine network ignoring doing it, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be passive aggressive and then seemingly outright aggressive when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to questioning from the Australians Reporter in Canberra.

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa, again, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's right to not answer questions, and it's a public space,

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<v Speaker 2>which means it's every reporter's right to go and ask

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 2>the questions. But wouldn't you either just stop and say, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to talk about this, or if you

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<v Speaker 2>saw the reporter getting anywhere near like if his version

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 2>of events is to be believed and I don't, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the he tripped over even after it happened, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>you go maybe you okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Instead Bank kept going with a little giggle.

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<v Speaker 12>As well, Yeah, look, he knows completely how the media

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 12>cycle works. And look, when you're doing media training, it's

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 12>the one to oh one of teaching executives and anyone

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<v Speaker 12>who's in the public eye. How do you manage what

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<v Speaker 12>is called a doorstopol I worked for a current affair,

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 12>I worked for Today tonight. That what you saw tonight

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<v Speaker 12>a doorstop, bounced the unscheduled and bushed interview. Politicians, especially

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 12>if Peter Costello's vintage, are absolutely aware of how they

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<v Speaker 12>should manage that sort of situation. You're right, it was

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<v Speaker 12>a public space. The journalists had every right to be

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<v Speaker 12>asking the questions, and he should have managed it much better.

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<v Speaker 12>And now to turn around now and think that what

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<v Speaker 12>you're seeing in that vision isn't exactly what happened, Well,

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<v Speaker 12>I think this has a long way.

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<v Speaker 1>To play out.

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<v Speaker 12>And as you say, the stories and the headlines that

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<v Speaker 12>have been coming out about Channel nine in the past

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<v Speaker 12>week or so, it does nothing to stand for the

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<v Speaker 12>culture and the way that you should be treating people.

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<v Speaker 12>It's got a long way to run.

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<v Speaker 2>I think again, as I said, I understand the adversarial

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<v Speaker 2>nature of a lot of different things and all the

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 2>currents and subcurrents and all the rest of it. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>but even if somebody was coming at me, who I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a particular fan of, if I saw that they

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<v Speaker 2>had been in any level of physical pain, you'd stop

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 2>and so made a uoka instead keep going. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>issue to me, that's sort of you know, where we

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<v Speaker 2>start to get into what's really underlying a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>what we've been seeing tonight.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, it's not great footage. Certainly, it's not great footage

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<v Speaker 14>for Channel nine to have this enter the media cycle

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<v Speaker 14>as well. On top of the fact that they are fighting,

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<v Speaker 14>there's media cycle around what are they going to do

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<v Speaker 14>with their CEO? And that is They've got two stories

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 14>out there now, almost guaranteeing mass coverage for nine on

0:34:56.200 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 14>two separate issues. The Treasurer, the former Treasurer of Australia.

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<v Speaker 14>How many do we have to talk about this week?

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<v Speaker 14>Is Well knows what it's like to go to Canberra

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<v Speaker 14>Airport and b doorstop by journalists. He has done that,

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<v Speaker 14>probably more times than he could count. I think it

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<v Speaker 14>sounds like a lapse of judgment from him. He's forgotten

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<v Speaker 14>where he perhaps is for a moment. This is Cambra.

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<v Speaker 14>You're the chairman of Channel nine and your companies under siege.

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<v Speaker 14>Of course there are going to be journalists said to

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<v Speaker 14>ask you questions. You're attending a well publicized event, and

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<v Speaker 14>it doesn't take a lot to figure out that he

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<v Speaker 14>may be on a flight from Melbourne coming into Camber

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<v Speaker 14>this evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're on our way to what twenty one minutes

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<v Speaker 2>away from ten o'clock at night in the East Coast.

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.399
<v Speaker 2>Current headline on the CIDY Morning Held's website is quote

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<v Speaker 2>you assaulted me nine check Costello appears to shove journalists

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<v Speaker 2>to the ground with video of the particular incident. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>see how long that headline stays the way that it

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<v Speaker 2>currently does, or whether it gets a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Of in how shimmy, we'll all see and learn.

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<v Speaker 2>To All right, let's talk about companies and again on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of what that company was doing today,

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<v Speaker 2>which was that the Financial Review with its ZSG conference

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<v Speaker 2>and basically a whole bunch of big companies double down

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:13.320
<v Speaker 2>and say no lesson learned from the voice Christy again,

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 2>we've got to this place now where capital has gone woke,

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 2>where money has gone woke, where the banks, where the

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 2>big financial institutions have now flipped basically from the center

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<v Speaker 2>right to now. I would argue the center left, maybe

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 2>at times a little further out. And of course once

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 2>the money flips, well or a power comes with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that even at an ESG conference, that

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<v Speaker 2>some of these companies should be aware that part of

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 2>their advocacy actually sort of annoyed people rather than told

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<v Speaker 2>us what the company cared about.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, they certainly doubled down, didn't they. There was some

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<v Speaker 14>quite a nuance language, I thought from the superannuation funds,

0:36:56.920 --> 0:37:00.840
<v Speaker 14>which was very very interesting given that super fun largely

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:06.879
<v Speaker 14>industry superfunds and largely union controlled. They said, we're only

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 14>going to weigh into issues that affect our operations, which

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 14>is people's decisions around financial services and superanuation. Whereas Westpac

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 14>doubled down and said we're not going to stop and

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 14>in fact gave everybody a lecture on reconciliation. It's not

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 14>a public policy forum, it's an ESG forum and attended

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 14>by non academics or not indigenous organizations certainly, but people

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 14>from banks. So I thought that was best inappropriate, at

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:46.720
<v Speaker 14>worst wildly off topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's this thing, Lisa Aware.

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<v Speaker 2>I constantly think about this when we go to regional Australia, right,

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.800
<v Speaker 2>is that I would like to see if major companies

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<v Speaker 2>want to care about what's happening in indigenous communities, go

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<v Speaker 2>to them, like have your big conferences and your team

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 2>building meetings and all the rest of it. And I'm

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 2>not talking about inviting you know, one local person in

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:12.280
<v Speaker 2>for the smoking ceremony. I'm saying about, Okay, go and interact,

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:15.280
<v Speaker 2>go and help, Go and donate time, Go and donate

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 2>part of the proceeds of your business to something happening

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 2>on the front lines. Instead, it all sort of happens inside,

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, the shiny towers of Sydney Melbourne and Brisbane,

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 2>where it's all about advocacy, advocacy, advocacy. I'd like to

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 2>go to Alice Springs one night, see what's going on

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 2>and then work out how their business can do the

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 2>one percent thing that might make things one percent better

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:38.240
<v Speaker 2>than Alice Springs.

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<v Speaker 12>Look, I think corporate Australia do do their part as

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<v Speaker 12>far as donating into local communities and trying to buy

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 12>local and support local. But what I sort of the

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<v Speaker 12>rub for me in reading this tonight was looking at

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 12>the Westpac boss sitting there, as you saying, in an

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 12>ivory tower at a very elite conference and saying, well,

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 12>what is happening with the Indigenousustralians?

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, for so long we saw.

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 12>Them lecturing us and pushing the voice. But where are

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 12>they now? What are they doing now to actually try

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 12>and change that dollar rather than just sit there and

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 12>try and gain sort of ESG points for it. So

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 12>that's I think where most of the strains will look

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 12>at that and look back, Paul, when we were talking

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 12>about this in October last year and the months and

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 12>months before that, everybody was looking what was happening in

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 12>the Northern Territory, What was happening indigenous communities. When was

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 12>the last time you saw it on the front page

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<v Speaker 12>of any publication?

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<v Speaker 1>Great point, very good point, very good point.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Bill Shorten. So apparently the riumor running around

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 2>is not only are we headed towards this reshuffle where

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>losers like the Immigration Minister get moved around, but apparently

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 2>there is a plan to try to make him Bill Shorten,

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 2>the former Labor leader and of course therefore thorn in

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 2>the side of albow, to try to get him out

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 2>of the Parliament and send him off to the embassy

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 2>in France. Now we know that politicians have done this before,

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 2>but generally speaking, the dynamic has not been one where

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 2>the person that's being removed is still sort of the

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 2>head of a certain section of the caucus, the Cabinet

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.240
<v Speaker 2>and all the rest of it. It's about as subtle

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 2>as a sledgehammer. But that's the way this Prime Minister

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 2>can be at times.

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Christie.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course everyone will deny it, everyone will say there's

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 2>nothing to see here. But didn't they say that about

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Rudd.

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<v Speaker 14>The difference is, I think Kevin Brad desperately wanted that job.

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<v Speaker 14>I think there's one job that Bill Shorten wants and

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<v Speaker 14>it is exceedingly clear his performance this week on the

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<v Speaker 14>NDS issues. He is out ranking the Prime Minister and

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<v Speaker 14>Jim Chalmers, another right faction upcomer a one hundred to

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<v Speaker 14>one on performance and being across his brief and actually

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<v Speaker 14>giving some gravitas and credibility to the Labor cabinet. And

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<v Speaker 14>I think of all the cabinet ministers, he is perhaps

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<v Speaker 14>the only one who has identified areas of economic reform,

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<v Speaker 14>which is to reduce the spending of the NDS and

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<v Speaker 14>get it down to a percentage that's manageable, it will

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<v Speaker 14>still be too high, go to war with the States

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<v Speaker 14>and try and bring a balance in public policy but

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<v Speaker 14>also economically to the n DIS. I can't think of

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<v Speaker 14>another Labor cabinet minister who has actually done that in

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<v Speaker 14>their portfolio. Does he want to leave the front bench

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<v Speaker 14>at this point? If I was looking at the Prime

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<v Speaker 14>Minister's performance, I would think maybe it's not time for

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<v Speaker 14>me to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I think the way the Labor Party works now

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<v Speaker 2>it's way more to the left. He's had two elections.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he gets another shot at it. Ever,

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<v Speaker 2>one of us will the tape will prove us right

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<v Speaker 2>or wrong a little further down the future, Lisa, your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 12>I think it's a rewir to a very nasty media

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<v Speaker 12>cycle talking about the six hundred thousand dollars thunders.

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<v Speaker 1>Of speech writer. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 12>I think it was a very smart moviea strategy to

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<v Speaker 12>start putting that rumor back out there again. It certainly

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<v Speaker 12>shifted the headlines.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, surprise, surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like that's the whole point of what they do,

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<v Speaker 2>rather than actually focusing in taking care of the real issues.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, quick break back with more.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you find out from the ladies who they think

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<v Speaker 2>is the wwitter and loser of the week. Your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>jump on the Facebook page or of course send me

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<v Speaker 2>an email. Paul at skynews dot com dot Au Late

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<v Speaker 2>debate fifteen from now. So much to talk about here

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<v Speaker 2>this Thursday, and I don't forget it. Of course we're

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<v Speaker 2>here on Sunday nights as well. Podcasts and video highlights

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 2>of everything we do is at skies dot com dot

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<v Speaker 2>au and also some behind the scenes stuff including of

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<v Speaker 2>course they asked me anything that I've done where I

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<v Speaker 2>was asked and answered anything, And you can do eat

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<v Speaker 2>by going to skyties dot com a you and having

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have a look behind the scenes and a lot

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 2>of things we do here at sky News, including some

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 2>extra stuff behind the Josh Fridenberg documentary. It's although at

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<v Speaker 2>skynies dot com dot au. So Lisa got he with

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<v Speaker 2>Christy McSweeney. Let's get into a couple of things, including, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the idea that a council in the twenty first century

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<v Speaker 2>is dealing with something.

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<v Speaker 1>As ridiculous as this, because obviously it's an.

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<v Speaker 2>Issue where a council was asked to vote on a

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<v Speaker 2>rule to make sure that the councilors and the key

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<v Speaker 2>people who work for the council don't hide behind their

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<v Speaker 2>computers and pretend to be anonymous on community Facebook groups.

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<v Speaker 2>The council voted against it, So firstly the motion seems weird,

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<v Speaker 2>but then when they vote against the motion, that's even weirder.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, Rhodes rates rubbish, all the rest of them,

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<v Speaker 2>we're all going to agree on it. But Lisa, what

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<v Speaker 2>does that say about that particular council that you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>just completely agree. No one's hiding behind fake profiles on

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet.

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<v Speaker 12>Do you let me think you don't need to be

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<v Speaker 12>Sherlock Holmes, I don't need to figure out there's just

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<v Speaker 12>the odd one or two, you know, fake accounts out.

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<v Speaker 12>They're putting out comments into community groups and pushing personal

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<v Speaker 12>agendas that they don't want their names associated with. Look,

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<v Speaker 12>we are so against the keyboard corwards who sit there

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<v Speaker 12>and troll people in communities and aren't brave enough to

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<v Speaker 12>put their face and their proper name out on these accounts.

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<v Speaker 12>You would expect that counselors wouldn't have to hide behind

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<v Speaker 12>some pretend account to go out there and push their

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<v Speaker 12>political agenda. I just think, yeah, it should not have

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<v Speaker 12>been voted down. Good only for offering it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's it. And Christy but they would freely agree, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool, cold, no, no, no, no, just talking about hiding and

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<v Speaker 2>plain sight when everyone but and it's interesting about the way.

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<v Speaker 1>That hyper local news works.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So we have big national conversations in state and

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<v Speaker 2>all the rest of it, right, but these sort of

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<v Speaker 2>the community Facebook group really is where a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things get fought out, and often if you're in those things.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not, But if you're in those things.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get a real taste of where the politics

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<v Speaker 2>is going to go, but also how people are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to agitate for your area to be exactly the opposite

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<v Speaker 2>of what it is, or to go go back to

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<v Speaker 2>the eighties and why can't I be the way it

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<v Speaker 2>used to be? Those things get a bit wild. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you in any Christie under a non deplume?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 14>Look, Paul, once you run for federal parliament, you have

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<v Speaker 14>no reason to hide anymore because your whole life and

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<v Speaker 14>everything you believe in and everything you've ever said is

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<v Speaker 14>on the Internet. So I'm very happy to put my

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<v Speaker 14>name and my face to any opinions.

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<v Speaker 11>That I have.

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<v Speaker 14>I am on a community Facebook group in a small

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<v Speaker 14>town of four thousand people where I grew up in

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<v Speaker 14>Western Australia, and one day I will write the Great

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<v Speaker 14>Australian Novel from the transcripts of it, because it is incredible.

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<v Speaker 14>Who would disagree that if you are representing constituents on

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<v Speaker 14>a community Facebook board or site or group, that you

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<v Speaker 14>would not declare yourselves as a representative of those constituents.

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<v Speaker 14>Don't We call that cat fishing?

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<v Speaker 1>Very good point now, Christine, feel free. I give you

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<v Speaker 1>full an absolute authority to say no comment.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul, what's the weirdest question that you get asked while

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<v Speaker 2>you're going.

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<v Speaker 1>Through the application process of running for federal parliament, when.

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<v Speaker 2>They're trying to weed out people who've got something in

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<v Speaker 2>their history or something that's a bit controversial, or what's

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<v Speaker 2>the one question you went you're really going to like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no problem here, but you're really going to ask

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<v Speaker 2>me that?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, they ask if you've been jailed, and I'm thinking, well,

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<v Speaker 14>if you're nominating for pre selection of a major party,

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<v Speaker 14>if you have to ask me that question by the

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<v Speaker 14>time I'm at the point of filling out the form,

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<v Speaker 14>there's something going wrong here with our processes. But of

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<v Speaker 14>course both major parties have demonstrated that there probably is

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<v Speaker 14>a lot wrong with their vetting processes, so on one hand,

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<v Speaker 14>perhaps people couldn't be surprised that question is actually asked.

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<v Speaker 2>Well again, Lisa, question without notice? You know with a

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<v Speaker 2>dony media, wonderful organization, do you.

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<v Speaker 12>Have a question without notices?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing else, it's only live on telling you what can

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<v Speaker 2>possibly be cut out of context on the internet. Here

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<v Speaker 2>is there is there a filtering process when you go

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<v Speaker 2>looking for employees where you sort of ask some weird question,

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<v Speaker 2>a little a little special personality test question about their past.

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<v Speaker 12>We have a very interesting picture in our office where

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<v Speaker 12>it's a clock on the wall and the clock of

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<v Speaker 12>the hands and the clock have stopped. And it's quite

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<v Speaker 12>interesting to ask the future interns or young staff members

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<v Speaker 12>what does that mean to you? Because it's interesting that

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<v Speaker 12>some of them are like, you know, I'm a clock watch,

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<v Speaker 12>or I have to be a clock watch, or ho

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<v Speaker 12>do you It's an interesting little psychological ortry.

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<v Speaker 1>Clever.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that, that's very clever. Or they just go,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the little hand for you know, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is probably what many you reativity And there's the door.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like we have lad, I'm done, all right, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to witness and Losers of the week. Christy, who

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<v Speaker 1>stands out for you.

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<v Speaker 14>A merely a Haimer clear winner of this week. The

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<v Speaker 14>former treasurer out of Australia, the former member for Kuyong,

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<v Speaker 14>has scuttled off yet again for the third time, into

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<v Speaker 14>the background, allowing Amelia to do the job for which

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<v Speaker 14>she is pre selecting for until at least October.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with you, but as I said to Josh Sam,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fine, go make the money. Come back in a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years, there'll be a spot for you at

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<v Speaker 2>some point. But let's see what happens at MKU on

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 2>which that redistribution has made it slightly more liberal.

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<v Speaker 1>All right for you, Lisa.

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<v Speaker 12>I think loser would have to be the Jewish community.

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<v Speaker 12>They would have watched what happened in Parliament today and

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<v Speaker 12>just felt like they've just been hit again. And you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 12>they're the losers of the week. And I have to

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<v Speaker 12>say a winner. Well, today is queenslanda I'm wearing the

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<v Speaker 12>wrong color, but it is Queensland Day, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 12>sixty five years since we gained independence from Juday.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to become a Queensland Okay. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm going to do. What the tests? Can you

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<v Speaker 2>figure this out? This has to be the project, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I will do anything to do it, all right, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>that's dangerous, almost anything to do it. Thank you, mate, appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>That's actually not just for tonight, but for the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great weekend, Go Tigers, Go Yankees, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see you again on Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 1>The Late Debate is next on sky News