WEBVTT - WHY DO EX’S ALWAYS COME BACK… 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.680 I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming. 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.000 She how do I put this? Isn't a fan of 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:07.000 my kissing. 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:10.920 Style with boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours. He's 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.920 in a trash bin. He's non recyclable catching them up. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:18.840 I love being love. I love love. On today's episode 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:21.040 of Where's Your Head At, we'll be taking a look 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:23.800 at whether exes always find a way to come back 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:24.520 and haunt us. 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.880 Do they genuinely miss us and want us back, or 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.480 are we the rebound that will satisfy them until they 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:33.800 find the next best thing. 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:35.120 Stay tuned. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.440 Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:47.839 things relationships, breakups, reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between. 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:50.839 This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip, 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:59.240 intimate details, advice, and much more. Him map, Hey Anna, 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.440 and hello to all our listeners out there. I just 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.760 start off by saying, Anna, remember how you told me 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:07.440 that it's going to be a struggle once Jen moves 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:08.440 into my shared house. 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:11.360 Yeah, I said it was going to be a huge challenge. 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:16.440 Well, I don't say this often, but you're right, Anna. Yeah, 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:17.080 that's all right. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.800 I'm glad that you've said this. On the podcast. We'll 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:21.280 just replay that one more time here. 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.399 Yeah, well, look it's all right. There's just a couple 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.800 of things that have happened that I want to touch 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:27.720 on real quickly. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:28.200 Oh. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:31.200 No, first of all, we don't have the master bedroom, 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.960 so we have what we've agreed is probably for maybe 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:36.600 like a pubescent boy. 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.960 Probably What does that mean. It's like the bed only. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.399 Yeah, no, there's a bit of room for activities around 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.200 the bed. But the wardrobe it could only fit like 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.960 just a teenage boy who's got like three shirts, right, 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.920 So try to get that with two people. It's very chesting, 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.080 and there's been a lot of clothes. If you go 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.240 down to the local salvos you might get some of 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:55.800 my clothes. 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:58.280 At this point that's uploading. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.240 Yeah, I've had to clean out my wardrobe. Also. Jen 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.320 gave the house a very deep clean, so she's gone 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.440 around with her vacuum cleaner that's whole white. She's just 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:11.680 given the house a whole once over, to the point 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:16.240 where she scrubbed the shower so much that I couldn't 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:18.320 even believe that it was actually had a color under there. 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:22.240 It was that's never seen the color, but the shower 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:23.040 actually doesn't. 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.600 Hang on, wait, it isn't like brown and multi weight. 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:27.760 What's going on now? She's all credit to her where 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:31.440 it's she's done really well. She has said to me 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:33.480 she does not want to talk about what she saw 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:34.880 under the toilet seat. 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.720 Got one of Is that like all of the boys pibs. 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.480 No, I don't know. That's all she wants, that's all 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.160 she said, because we have one of those toilet seats 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:47.040 that doesn't stay up and it's shared between three boys. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:50.280 So pibs. Well, I say, Pierce, I don't know what's 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.000 under there, and she just said she never wants to 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.960 speak about it again. Anyway, that memory to the back 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.840 of her mind. But we had a bit of dramas 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.960 as well. The other day the toilet broke. 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.200 The toilet broke, yes in the boy's house. 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.320 Yeah, so the toilet broke and we had no toilet 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.520 for half a day. So that was a big struggle 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.560 as well, you know, quick trips up to Macas. 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:12.920 That's challenging. 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.560 That it was. It was very challenging, but we got 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:17.440 through it now and we're better for it. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.920 Look to be honest, the house did probably need a 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.720 deep clean, so like if I was in Jem's physician. 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.400 I would definitely be on that same train of thought, 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.640 like it needs a full, deep clean, Like who knows 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.359 what's happened in that house before she's arrived there. 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.320 There's some stories, I know. 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.120 Yeah, Look, living without a toilet's not fun for anyone, 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.560 but when you're living in a house full of boys 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:42.960 just makes it so much worse. 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.240 Yeah, it wasn't the most ideal situation for any of us, 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.560 but we got through it. And let's say we're going 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.440 to be monitoring that toilet to make sure that doesn't 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:55.280 happen again. All right, So here was your weekend. 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:56.680 It was really good. 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:00.600 Michael and I ended up going to our first festival together, 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.400 which was, you know, another milestone in our relationship, super exciting. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.720 We had such a fun time. I just love it 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:11.560 that live music's back and we fully got around it. 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.600 So you had fun at this festival with your partner. 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.640 Yeah, why do you seem surprised? 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.240 I've never found that fun with my partner, Like I 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.480 want a festivals and now I all think it's a 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.800 place that like you go single and let loose. Maybe 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.360 it was my age, my maturity level, but like I 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.400 haven't done one with Jen yet a festival. I don't 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.120 think I will, to be honest, but like, yeah, I 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:33.520 found him that fun with a partner. 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.880 So you've been to festivals with a partner and you 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:37.640 just didn't think it was that good of a time. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.840 Yeah, I remember, like went to New Year's one year 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.320 with my ex and it just wasn't. I don't know. 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.040 It was different from the years when I went single. 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:47.719 Maybe it was my age at the time, maybe it 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.080 was my priorities in my mind, all that kind of stuff. 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:51.839 Maybe it wasn't to let loose and have fun. 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.119 I mean, I have a question. Do you enjoy getting 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:55.000 drunk with Jen? 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:56.720 Yeah, Jesus, yeah I do. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.960 So then why would you not love going to live music? 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:02.880 Well, I said I drunk, Like I said, I haven't 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.840 done it yet, so maybe I might enjoy it, but 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:06.119 just in the past, I haven't. 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.159 And I mean, yeah, I guess like when we first 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.040 start going to festivals, I know, for me, I was single. 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.039 So if that's your mindset that it's like a single 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.760 event that you do, then fair enough. But yeah, it's 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.559 so fun going with a partner, and like it's fun 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:23.440 getting to experience live music together, and especially if you 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:27.160 both love someone who's playing, like it was so much fun. 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.560 I think the year I went before that I was single, 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.640 I had this much fun and I just. 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.400 Spoke for this much for ever friend listening. 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.840 It's like one hundred percent. And I think that the 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.440 next year I had a partner, and I don't think 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.080 that anything could have topped the year before. 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.760 He was hitting sixty five with a partners. 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:43.440 Yeah, yeah, I just don't think anything could top the 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.239 year before. So maybe that's why I have that opinion. 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.680 But I'm surprised and I'm happy for you guys that 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:48.599 you had that much fun. 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:50.120 Yeah, I mean it was funny. 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.840 Like I'm twenty nine, obviously, I've been going to festivals 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.320 for a long time. I think, as much as I 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.560 hate to say it, I think my festival days are 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.680 kind of almost like if there's a band that I 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:03.320 love one hundred percent, I'll go to see it, like 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:07.120 Kings of Leona coming out soon to Melbourne. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.000 But yeah, bands different. 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.760 But for actual festivals, like it was just so young, 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.080 like so many young people, and that's fine, but I 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.600 did find it a little bit hectic, Like there was 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.520 lots of little hectic. 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.120 Events that happened throughout the day. 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.200 And I was just like, WHOA, I'm too old for 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:24.520 this shit. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.120 I'm too old for this shit, Like what is happening? 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:31.840 Like there was puncheons, there was people o ding like 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.800 I was just like, WHOA, this is too much. I 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.400 also saw this couple break up at the start of 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.360 the day. They looked pretty aggressive with one another, which 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.640 was a bit scary because I was like, oh, I 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.120 don't like the look of that, Like that seems like 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:48.279 way too much. 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.000 And then by the end of the night they were 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:51.760 making out. 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.240 Loving life, and I was just like, Wow, I have 0:06:56.360 --> 0:07:00.440 some serious whiplash, and like the amount of aggressn't that 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:01.239 I saw before? 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:03.640 There's just a lot. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.360 I think that it's safe to say that this happens 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.560 a lot in relationships. You break up and you get 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.760 back together, which brings us coincidentally to our topic today 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.240 of does your ex always come back? 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:16.440 Let's jump in. 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:24.160 Okay, Matt, let's jump into this. Why do exes always 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:27.000 come back? Have you ever had an X that keeps 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:28.760 coming back into your life? 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:33.520 Yes? So, my ex Laura and me have been doing 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.400 that for since we broke up, for years, even before 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.640 we even started dating. We always would just come and 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.280 go between each other's lives and wow, kept that up. 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.800 Sometimes we can catch up and it's completely botonic. 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:45.760 When did you guys break up? How old were you? 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.720 Twenty three and you are now twenty six, so for 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:50.360 three years three and a half years. 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.760 Yeah, so what you'd both like be seeing other people 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.640 and then one of you would break up or the 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.240 other would break up, and you'd both be single and 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:58.560 then you'd Yeah, from. 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.120 What I know, I would be seing other people. She's 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:02.800 never told me if she's seen anyone or anything, like, 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.360 I know she's obviously being with other people than that. 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.520 But we'd always just shoot each other messages and say, hey, 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.720 like this movie's coming out, you want to go see it? 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.280 And we catch up, literally have dinner. She'd cook me dinner. 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.480 I'd go around to hers, and it was literally completely 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.960 patonic sometimes and obviously sometimes it wasn't sometimes you. 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.200 Know, see that's what I mean though, like you say, 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:25.400 it's completely platonic, then you go, but sometimes it wasn't. 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.160 Yeah, well, if the if the vibe was there, sometimes 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:29.080 we would hook up. 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.120 Isn't that so confusing? Though? 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:35.440 There was one time the most recent time I afterwards 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.880 was like because I was like, well, hang on, and 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.080 then she just said, can't we just be friends like 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.240 that do this sort of stuff? And I was like, well, yeah, 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:42.559 we can. 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.320 I was like, so you mean, does she mean friends 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:46.160 that sleep together? 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.240 Yeah? Because I thought it was like, well, I don't 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.600 want to hurt you because I don't want that again. 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:52.839 And I brought that conversation. So I brought up with 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:53.960 him and she was like, Matt, I just thought we 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.520 could just be two friends that do that sometimes and 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:57.160 hang out. 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:01.720 But is that possible, like two friends want to have sex? Like, 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:03.880 don't people want to have sex when it's like a 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.679 bit more. I don't know, Like it's a genuine question. 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:08.840 I'm not sure. 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.120 Well, it's safe to say we dated. We've been in 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.680 each other's lives now sexually for a decade. We know 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.199 it's not going to work. We just know each other 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.920 very well, so we know that we feel comfort in 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:19.319 each other. 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.600 I guess, so it's a comfortability thing. 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.520 Yeah, So I think we guess keep going back to 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:24.520 each other through comfort. 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.560 Why do we feel the need to stay connected with 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:28.040 an X? 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.320 I feel because in some ways you can have such 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:35.360 a shared history with them and have experienced such milestones 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.120 together and also put so much time and invested so 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.760 much energy into that person that to just let it 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.800 go could sometimes be huge waste and like could almost 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:49.120 sort of make someone feel empty or like they must 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.800 like they've wasted their time, so they continued coming back, 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.040 even though they know it's not right and it's not 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:57.120 going to work for them, they still feel like they 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:58.520 should go back and try again. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.360 Yeah, I mean, look, there's definitely two ways of looking 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.480 at this, and I think the way that you're looking 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.200 at it is definitely like if you're going to be 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.640 best friends with someone and spend all your time with 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.880 them and put all this energy into someone, and like 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.319 that's the person who you want to see all day 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:18.320 every day, like they are your person, and then all 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.839 of a sudden you break up with them, and that 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.319 shifts and changes, Like of course that's that. Of course 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:28.600 that's like heart wrenching. But for me, I just think 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.360 that as much as we want to remain friends with 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.880 an X, I believe that it can be toxic for 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:40.679 your life, especially when you start moving into a new relationship, 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.960 because when an X is still in the picture, it 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.280 adds a whole new level of complication that just doesn't 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.640 need to be there. And I think like when the 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.200 ex is someone who you've gone back and slept with 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.520 here and there, and like they do have that feeling 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:00.720 of comfortability, it's unhealthy moving forward in a relationship with 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:01.439 a new partner. 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.400 I agree completely, And that's why now that I have 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.120 a girlfriend and I'm in a relationship, I have not 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.120 reached out or Laura hasn't reached out to me. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.360 So you guys respect the boundary. 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:12.800 Yes, we respect the boundaries. 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:13.760 Yeah, And I. 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.320 Think that's the tricky part because, yeah, when we're in 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:22.520 a relationship, it can make xes long for us because 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.520 they go, look at how happy Anna is. Look at 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.480 how happy that is. He looks like he's having a 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.440 wonderful time. Remember when I used to have wonderful times 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.640 with Matt Well, I wish I had that back. 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.160 All right, And so you've had an illustrious list of 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:43.560 Xes trying to come back into your life. What are 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:47.280 some of the main ways they have tried to get 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.800 back into your life? A late night text is probably one. 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:51.040 It's one of your personal thing. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.440 Yeah, it's a classic go to What would be another one? 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.280 I mean, I feel like X's story reactions are a 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.960 big one. They just want to mind you, like, hey, 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.760 I'm still alive, Like I just wanted to let you 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:05.600 know that I'm going to send you a little flame 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.560 emogory because you're looking fine today and it's. 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.880 Almost like when you see it pop up, I'm just like, 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.400 come on, if you can see that, I'm in a 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:13.800 relationship now, Like just. 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:18.240 Yeah, what about liking photos? 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.360 Like if an ex is liking your photo. 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.000 They liking it while it's freshly uploaded or are they 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.760 liking it a couple of days in the track? 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:27.480 Doesn't matter. 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:32.760 I feel freshly uploaded, no harm, no fear. I yeah, 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.640 I mean makes up his own rules. No, if someone 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:37.440 likes mine, I'm not going to look into that. I 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.960 wouldn't like an excess photo. I'm saying if like one 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.600 liked mine that I'd slept with or been with as 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.680 it was a fresh upload, I'd be like, man, you know, 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:49.920 thanks for the support the engagement. But if it was 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:51.400 a couple of days later, I'd be like, come on, 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.520 move on. 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:56.520 So what you think, like if they do it two 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.760 days later, they're trying to get your attention. 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.240 Yeah, what if if they're like liking like a super 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:02.000 old phone. 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:03.960 Then they're definitely trying to get your attention. I mean, 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.280 if they're liking it when it's freshly uploaded and they 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.200 have the confidence to think that I've noticed them in 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.280 the mix of thousands of people, they're fucking ambitious. 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:16.000 Yeah, what about Like, so I know that when people 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:20.760 break up a lot of the time people unfollow x'es, right, Yeah, 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.120 Or like if you're in a new relationship, you might 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.080 be like, well, I'm probably gonna unfollow because I feel 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.440 a bit uncomfortable like viewing your stuff or whatever it 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:28.920 might be. 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.000 Now, this happened to me recently. 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:36.640 An X of mine had unfollowed me because I obviously 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:40.400 had a new boyfriend whatever all as well. Yeah, he 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:45.920 recently refollowed me, and I was like, oh, there he is, Hey, 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:47.760 what's going on? 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:48.640 Did he reach out? 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.880 No, he didn't reach out, but he just he refollowed. 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:53.520 So did you follow him back? 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:55.000 I'd never unfollowed him. 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.520 How freshly broken up were you before you met Michael? 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.160 It wasn't an official but it was a guy who 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:02.800 I was seeing before Michael was. 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.920 He probably heartbroken and seeing you post with a new 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.400 guy was probably a bit too confronting for him, and 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.160 you know he's taking some time to reflect on his 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.080 own thoughts and he's come back comfortable enough and ready 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.360 enough to view your stories with Michael. Do you think 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.640 that's what's happened or he's just trying to get your attention. 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.440 Maybe I feel like you're talking from experience. 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.200 Take some time to consult myself, talk to my loved ones. 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:26.960 It's too confronting. 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.840 I'm ready to look back at the stories and then 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:31.920 it all comes down heavy again and you're like, oh, 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.880 well that was a mistake. Unfollowed. Is this what's happened? 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:40.520 I mean, you probably know better than me, Like you're the. 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.480 Guy I've never done that. 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.520 I was just taking the pierce, But I don't lie. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.000 It's I know that that's definitely happens to people out there. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.840 Fortunately with me, with my most recent ex, I've blocked 0:14:53.840 --> 0:15:00.640 her on every sort of contact. I've blocked her on phone, number, Instagram, Facebook, 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.000 I don't know. The only point of contact we had 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:07.000 was my old email address, which since has been hacked. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:11.320 So some Norwegian hackers getting all my hate mail from. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:13.440 Wait were you getting hate mail? 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:15.920 Yeah? I was getting a couple I. 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.520 Got you're getting emails. 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:21.000 There was a couple of them, but I'll tell this story. 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:26.920 Fuck it. Yes, So we weren't seeing each other at 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.640 the time on her birthday, so I'm not going to 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.200 go out and get a gift givings on my love language. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:32.640 So I'm not going to get u some extravagant present. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.280 We're not together. I'm more sentimental. So I got her 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.400 a card and a DVD of our movie. That was 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.320 one of the nice times we spent together, was watching 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.840 that movie. Was one of the very nice days that 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:43.560 we spent together. 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.520 I'm not laughing, but I just remember this story coming 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:47.120 back to me. 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.640 And obviously we'd release a couple of our podcast episodes. 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.200 The subject title for the email read, don't ever fucking 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.680 talk about me on your podcast again? Foid with an 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:01.200 attachment of the card and the d all cut off. 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.680 So why are we talking about her on this podcast? 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.640 Well, like I said, that, poor Norwegian Hacko's going to 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:14.200 get sent some more hate. 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.760 Oh my god. I would love to see the emails. 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:20.160 I could probably pull it off. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.680 But interesting. 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:27.480 Okay, So, Matt, have you been the one that's tried 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.440 to get back with any of your exes? 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.320 Yeah? Probably my first girlfriend. She broke up with me. 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.480 I tried to get back with her. Thank god I didn't. 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.920 She's now in happy relationship, engaged. I definitely wasn't the 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:41.880 best guy for her and she's found her dream guy, 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.120 so lucky. We didn't get back together, but I tried 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.320 with her as well. I've always been broken up with 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.960 and I have, yeah, and I've always been like, well, 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:52.320 I'm not ready for this right now, so it doesn't matter. Yeah, no, no, no, 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.840 ready to break up. I still thought that there was 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.520 something there, and I've always tried to get back and 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:58.240 reached out to him. 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:02.560 Yeah, because you're so needy, you can't possibly like you're like, no, 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:04.040 like direct. 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:05.840 Anymore. 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:09.840 You don't want to be me? 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.000 Why what about you? Have you reached out to any 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:14.240 of your Exesena. 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:15.879 No, I actually haven't. 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.560 I mean, like there's always those moments when you're single, 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.000 a little bit tipsy, and you might, like I don't know, 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:27.600 react to someone's story or like you know, like send 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.960 them a message being like hope you're well or whatever. 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.240 But I genuinely do not want to get back with 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.240 any of my exes. Like once I'm over it, I'm 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.200 over it. I remember, like the second guy I ever 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.480 slept with, we were seeing each other for a bit 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.000 kind of fizzled out. I think like two to three 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:48.320 years later. He was like saw that I was out, 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.200 was like, hey, are you out tonight? I was like yeah, 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.520 I am. Like we should have a drink. It's been 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.600 a while we were both single. 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:59.159 Like why not. I ended up going home with him. 0:17:59.720 --> 0:17:59.840 No. 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.800 He tried to kiss me when we got home, and 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.560 like it just felt so off, Like I was just 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:12.520 like the kiss was just uncomfortable, it was awkward. I 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:14.679