WEBVTT - Sharri | 7 May 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:03.199 Live on Sky News. 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:08.520 This is Sharry Good evening. Welcome man. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.960 Let the celebrations begin as Anti Israel Green's leader Adam 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:16.720 band is punished by voters and looks set to lose 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:17.200 his seat. 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:18.840 Well my thoughts on this in a moment. 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:22.480 Also tonight, the letter Nick mackenzie sent a key witness 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.560 in the Ben Robert Smith trial saying she was causing 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:30.040 him anxiety. The ninebod have still not broken their silence 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.360 on seven hundred thousand dollars in hush money. Cheng Lei, 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.239 for the first time is telling the full story of 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:38.519 her incarceration. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.560 She'll join me live tonight on the show. 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:47.120 Israel reportedly approves plans to seize the terror controlled Gaza Strip. 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:50.960 Deputy Foreign Affairs Minister Sharen Haskell will be here with 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.400 an exclusive interview later and we'll cross live to the 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:58.000 Vatican the moment we hear news about the vote for 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:02.360 the next quote. But first, well, let's start the show 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.959 with this good news. And are we all popping the 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.800 champagne tonight having a drink to celebrate, because it looks 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.920 like Adam Bant is out of politics, the leader of 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:17.720 the most vile Anti Israel party who made Jewish Australians 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:19.920 feel like they didn't have a place. 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:20.679 In this country. 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:25.160 And now, if Sky News chief election analyst Tom Connell 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:29.360 is right, Adam Bant has lost his job. Here was 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.400 Tom making that decision desk call this afternoon. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.440 What would he need in the remaining absent votes to 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.200 be able to win sixty three percent? That is just 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.039 far too high in our performance from everything else that 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.480 has happened in this election. So we're assuming lots of 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:48.760 positives for ban from here and he still would need 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.680 sixty three percent. So given that I know there's plenty 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.000 of vote left, we are now saying a Labour Party 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.080 will pick up the seed of Melbourne and Adam Bant, 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.600 the Green's leader, will lose the seat of Melbourne. 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:04.320 And to that, I say bye Bye Bant, goodbye to 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:08.120 your divisive brand of politics. To the fact that while 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:14.600 your fellow Australians Jews were being harassed, targeted, doxed and threatened, 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:19.880 while our community had our property vandalized and firebombed, while 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:24.959 we were living in daily fear, you continued to antagonize us. 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:29.600 You supported a boycott, divestment and sanctions movement against Israel. 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:34.440 You wrongly claimed there was a genocide in Gaza when 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:38.480 the only people who had a clear plan for genocide 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:43.119 was Hermus, who wanted to wipe out every Jew on 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:47.280 this earth, emission that her must began when it massacred 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:51.959 Israeli's on October seven. Instead of campaigning for the release 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.600 of the hostages, you campaigned for an end to the 0:02:55.680 --> 0:03:00.000 Jewish state. And here were some of your despicable comics. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:05.160 It's calling for an end to the invasion of Gaza, 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:10.160 putting sanctions on this extreme war cabinet of Benjamin Etna 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:15.000 who that is subject to orders to stop genocide, ending 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:21.920 the military trade with Israel, and expelling the Israeli ambassador. 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.720 We want to see an end to the invasion of 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.480 Gaza and an end to the occupation. Children are now 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.880 dying because they can't get enough to eat or drink 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:39.040 as part of a human engineered famine, human engineered by 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:44.520 the Israeli military. There will not be a just and 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:50.320 lasting peace in the region until the occupation of Palestine ms. 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.640 And now he's been voted out, and so for this 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:58.640 reason tonight we do have a reason to smile. Australians 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:04.200 have rejected the antagonism by the Greens leader of our community, 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.520 because that is what the Greens Party came to stand for. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:12.960 It was a pro Palestinian party, not an environmental one. Now, 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:18.560 news of Bound's departure was celebrated by Pauline Hanson this afternoon, just. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.680 Quietly between you and I. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.680 I was getting ready to come on your program when 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.279 I heard the news, and I couldn't help it. 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.000 I did a dance around the house with my brather 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.080 and nickers, and I had to have a gin and tonic. 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.520 So I am so excited. 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.599 That's the best news I've heard. 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.200 I'm sure she wasn't the only one dancing around in 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.359 her Undy's celebrating when the news came through. Or the 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.000 nightly front page sums it up well by saying from 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:48.080 the Yarra to the seer and rich. I also put 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.279 it well on this program last night when he said 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.240 there would be many a dry eye to see band 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:54.600 leave parliament. 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.400 And I'll tell you what the driest of all is 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:58.520 right here. 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:03.000 So let's toast there's one piece of good news, and 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:07.839 let's say good riddance to bad rubbish. Now, in other 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.080 good news, tell Zoe Daniel is officially out of the 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:15.640 parliament with Liberal Tim Wilson today reclaiming the seat of Goldstein. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:28.599 I'm very proud, genuinely, very proud to say that we 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.320 are pleased to accept that we have won the seat 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:32.960 of Goldstein back for the Liberal Code. 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.600 Well, quite strangely, Zoey Daniel put out a post refusing 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.440 to concede. She said, while the media has called the 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.640 result in Goldstein, I will wait for further counting out 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:50.359 of respect for my scrutineers and the democratic process. Although 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.760 she didn't have a problem waiting on Saturday night when 0:05:53.760 --> 0:06:10.720 she began her victory celebration, and now she can dance 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:11.719 off into the sunset. 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.279 He can't see enough of that clip. 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:16.400 And now Tim Wilson isn't ruling out a tilt at 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:20.200 the leadership. Are the leading contenders emerging as Susan Lay 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:24.440 and Angus Taylor. Fellow moderate Jason Felinsky has backed Tim 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:28.279 Wilson in as a leadership contender as members argue over 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:32.560 whether the Liberal Party should be more conservative or centrist. 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.920 He is the first and only person in Australian political 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.800 history to win a seatback from an Independent to win 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.599 a seatback from an Independent at the next election. What 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:48.200 he has managed to do is incredibly significant. He represents 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.640 the people whose votes we need to get back. 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.240 Should he and will he run full leader? 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:56.599 Well, I don't want to spoil it. I hope he does, 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:58.720 but I'll be churning in at eleven to find out. 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.400 Amazing Liberal leadership. 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.680 Do you have any aspirations for it out? 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:08.280 Well today I had aspirations for one thing, and it 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.800 was to have the great privilege and service to be 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:12.480 the member for Goldstein again. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.679 And of course we have lived out that promise. 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.640 And of course what Jason Vielinski said wasn't quite true 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.560 there because Dave Sharma did win the seat of Wentworth 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:28.760 from Independent Karen Phelps and then Sharma lost it to 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.920 Allegraspender and Dave Sharma's going to be on the show tonight. 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.200 By the way. Now there's also a view that. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.280 Just sent a number Jim for Price needs to find 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.520 a way to move to the Lower House to be 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.120 in a position to run for the leadership. And Ray 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.520 Hadley said here last night that she's clearly the most 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:48.200 talented with a strong ability to connect with voters. 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.600 I think the next Liberal National Party Prime Minister is 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:54.400 not in the Lower House at the moment. They're not 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.520 in the Lower House, but they are certainly in the Senate, 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.440 but they've got to make their way to the lower 0:07:58.440 --> 0:07:59.840 House to be elevated. 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:00.960 To that position. Just enterprise this. 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:02.560 Well, she knows. 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:03.080 I love her. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.280 I really think she's a great Australian and I really 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.880 think that we need someone to stand up and take 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.240 us forward, and she'd be the person if she could 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:13.640 get to the Lower House that could do it. 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:16.840 One things for shod It's going to be a long 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:20.880 period in the wilderness for the Liberal Party. But til 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:25.679 Zoe Daniel wasn't the only Teale who celebrated prematurely. Minnick 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:29.400 Ryan and Nicolette Buell's seats are also now in doubt, 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:33.679 with counting ongoing, and in total, they're still around a 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.880 dozen or so seats that the Australian Electoral Commissions say 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:41.720 are too close to call now. In Bradfield, Liberal Giselle 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.120 Capterian is a head of Nicolette Buell by about two 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:50.520 hundred and fifteen votes. In Kouyong, Emilia Hamer is just 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.480 seven hundred and twenty three votes behind Minique Ryan, and 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.440 Heyme is sitting on forty four percent of the primary vote. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:58.800 I think this is extraordinary. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.920 While Ryan has only about thirty four percent of the 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.760 primary vote, but then of course she's receiving preferences from Labor, 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.960 Greens and the other parties. Now in the new Wa 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:14.000 seat of Bullwinkle, Labour's Trish Cook is ninety votes ahead 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:18.800 of Liberal candidate Matt Morin. Other undecided seats include Bendigo 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.839 being in the Act and Fremantle. The seat of Ryan 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.280 is also too close to call. So depending on how 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.360 the rest of the counting goes, you could be looking 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.600 at a situation where the Greens are wiped out with 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:36.280 no Lower House seats at all. Now, their Senate representation 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.719 is just as strong as it was before, and they 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.480 could hold the balance of power on the Senate. The 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.880 reality is Label will need to rely on either the 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:50.000 Greens or the Coalition to get legislation passed. Now in 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:54.280 seats like cou Yong and Goldstein, there's no question the 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:58.000 Jewish vote would have bolstered the chances of the Liberal candidate. 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.440 So the counting continues, yes, taking its time, but there's 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:06.480 certainly strong hope the Greens leader Adam Band will be 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:10.120 gone from our political scene, and if so, it will 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.800 be down to his hostile position towards Israel and the 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:18.040 Jewish community, and that should be a lesson for Labor 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.320 that a political party has basically been annihilated in the 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:26.520 Lower House, has been severely punished by voters for blatant 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:34.440 anti Semitism. Now, before we bring in Michael Kroger and 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.880 Steve Price to celebrate the demise of the Greens, let's 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.400 get an update to our ongoing investigation into Nine's treatment 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:45.080 of Ben Robert Smith. As we've been reporting, Nine paid 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:48.840 seven hundred thousand dollars hush money to silence a witness 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.839 who threatened to telecourt judge that the media company had 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:57.400 been given unauthorized access to Ben Roberts Smith's emails during 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.840 the war crimes trial. Well, tonight I can reveal that 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:05.240 reported Nick Mackenzie told this witness that she was causing 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:07.839 him anxiety and he said he. 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.200 Had to cut her off. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.319 This is a woman nineclaimed had been a victim of 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:16.480 domestic violence, and they pressed her to testify for them 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:20.960 against Robert Smith. Now, in a formal letter that we've obtained, 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:25.520 Mackenzie said he wasn't trying a victim blame, but said 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:30.720 that her trauma had caused him anxiety. He wrote, I 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.960 also want to explain why I no longer have contact 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:37.120 with you due to the deep distress you suffered. You 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.920 contacted me very often for a long time. I saw 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.319 it as my job to try to manage your stress 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:44.200 and trauma. 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:46.080 It was very challenging. 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.200 There were times I was so worried I notified your 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:54.000 husband of concerns you might self harm. In time, I 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.760 began to seek help about how to manage dealing with 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:57.840 a victim survivor. 0:11:58.520 --> 0:11:59.920 I'm not blaming you for a moment. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.920 I'm just explaining that it began to take a significant 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:08.079 toll on me. And Mackenzie said that his employers had 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:12.480 instructed him to stop any contact with the woman, who 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:17.000 nine had pressured to give testimony against Robert Smith. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.080 He wrote, prior. 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.440 To our last contact, I had a meeting with my 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:26.960 senior bosses. I was instructed to cease contact. This is 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:30.880 the reason why I ceased contact. I'm not justifying it. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.120 I'm just explaining. 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:35.320 Now. 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.080 In her unfiled statement of claim, the woman said that 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.520 she told Nick mackenzie in a phone conversation in September 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.480 twenty eighteen that she didn't want to be a witness 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:48.960 in the defamation proceeding. She sought assurances, which she says 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:53.080 Mackenzie gave that none of the materials she'd previously provided 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:57.360 to Nine would be used in any defamation proceedings. The 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:01.200 woman asked whether Mackenzie could get guarantee the truth of this, 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.840 given he wasn't a member of the Fairfax Board, and 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:06.760 Mackenzie allegedly responded by. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.920 Saying I am Fairfax. 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:15.040 After much convincing, eventually the woman did provide a written 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:19.839 statement for use in the proceedings after her identity was suppressed. 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.040 But by April twenty nineteen, the woman says that she 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.560 was having suicidal thoughts as a result of her involvement 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:32.400 in the defamation proceeding. She was suffering severe psychological distress 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.600 as a result of it. The way Nine treated this 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.200 woman as part of the reason they paid her seven 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:43.480 hundred thousand dollars, along with the fact she threatened to 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.840 tell the court judge that Nine had been given access 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:50.280 to Robert Smith's emails by his wife, Emma Roberts and 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:54.120 her friend Danielle Scott, and she wrote to nine executives 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:58.640 Tory Maguire and legal counsel Lorena Alec in March twenty 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:02.360 twenty three, saying I also know these women were passing 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:06.240 on confidential and privileged information to Nick as far back 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.920 as mid to late twenty twenty. What are you going 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:13.600 to do when all of that comes out to the judge? 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.400 Now that seven hundred thousand dollars payment with the requirement 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.680 of an NDA was made in January twenty twenty four, 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:25.720 not long before Ben Roberts Smith's appeal against Nine began, 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.120 and his lawyers told me yesterday that had they known 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:34.240 about this woman's claims and the audio recording, it would 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.520 have formed part of the substantive two week appeal heard 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:41.120 before the Full Court in February twenty twenty four. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.680 Just a month after the payment was made. 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:48.720 The Nine board remains under pressure now over who authorized 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.360 this hush money. 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.600 So far, the chair of the nation's biggest media company, 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:58.560 Nine Entertainments, Catherine Whize, continues to dodge the media. 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.680 Did you sign off on the seven one hundred thousand 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:01.760 hush money payments? 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:06.200 And it's clear now silence is nine strategy Today. We 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:10.120 asked every Nine board member a series of key questions. 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.080 Were you aware that Nine intended to make a seven 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.080 hundred thousand dollar payment to prevent a key witness from 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.760 going public with allegations against Nick Mackenzie in the Ben 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:24.080 Robert Smith defamation case. Without reply, Have you signed off 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:27.200 on or been made aware of any similar payments made 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:32.360 to silence individuals connected to the Ben Robert Smith proceedings? Again? Nothing? 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:36.840 And finally, do you retain confidence in chair Katherine West? 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:38.840 Still only silence? 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.600 The nine board down company have also declined to answer 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:48.360 our questions this week, and in an act of gross 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:52.840 hypocrisy for a media company, nine is using bullish legal 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:57.479 threats to try to shut down reporting from other media outlets. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:02.800 It seems nine newspapers believe in scrutiny of every other 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:07.400 facet of public life, but object when the spotlight is 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:11.440 turned on their own conduct and a seven hundred thousand 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.440 dollars hush money payment to silence a witness right before 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:19.680 an appeal is set to begin is utterly staggering conduct 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:28.040 that demands a full explanation. All right, let's bring in 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.440 our panel tonight, former Victorian Liberal Party president Michael Kroger 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.640 and Sky News host Steve Price. 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:34.720 Great to see you both. 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.640 Michael, I want to turn to the outcome of Goldstein, 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.960 and it seems in Melbourne with Adam Bannt these are 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:43.920 important victories. 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:52.080 Important and stunning. Quite frankly, I cannot tell you how 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.680 much admiration people have for Wilson having one vack Goldstein. 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.440 I mean that guy has apart from all the other 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.320 qual is the courage Tim Wilson showed is jobs making. 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.840 It's breathtaking and I wish him well for a longer 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.920 distinguished career in Parliament to add to his distinguished career already. 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.760 He'll make a great contribution. And you saw how good 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.160 he is today that interview. As for Adam bant Shhi, 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.919 what can we say? There is a God for all 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:26.920 those were in doubt, there is a god. This guy 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:31.240 is responsible for the greatest breakdown in social cohesion that 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:34.399 I've witnessed in my lifetime, for all the reasons that 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:38.120 we know. The job now is to go forward and 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:43.080 one by one try and defeat these Green senators by 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.440 one by one over the next few years by explaining 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.040 to Green voters why they shouldn't be supporting a party 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:53.680 which stirred up so much Rachel hatred against the Jewish population. 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:59.040 That meant, and we've seen everything that happened. But where 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.880 a Jewish school needs at armed guard, doesn't it teach 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:06.159 you something about our society? And we read that one 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.720 of the potential coundidates for the leadership of the Greens 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:13.320 is more In Feruki, a woman who wouldn't condemn Hamas. 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.280 So what are you saying to Jewish Australians when your 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:22.600 deputy leader and potential leader is someone who won't condemn 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:27.560 condemn those that slipped the throats and murdered Jews in 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:32.040 Israel on October seven? Shame on you, Feruki, Shame on Band, 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:35.400 and congratulations to the people of Melbourne. I must say 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.760 Adam Band has not yet conceded if he's relying on 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:43.120 absent te votes. Adam, my absent te vote is one 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.720 of those that hasn't been counted yet. And I'm happy 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:48.719 to tell you mate, you were last on my hat 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:49.360 a vote. 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:51.960 Yeah, well, good to hear that. I wouldn't have expected 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:52.600 anything else. 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.280 I mean, Steve Price, you know, it wasn't that long ago, 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.480 maybe five or six years ago, when I used to 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.320 have Sarah Hanson, young on Guy and us as a 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.240 guest on a panel. But there's no way we would 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.800 have any of the Greens on now, unless it's to 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.920 point out how ludicrous they are because all of them 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.680 hold this out to Israel position. I mean they used 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:14.720 to be an environmental party, Steve. 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:15.960 They need to get back to that. 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.480 Well, that's the point, Jarry, and I endorse everything Michael 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.840 just said. The Greens have become a hard left socialist 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:29.080 activist party. That they sponsored all of those pro Palestinian 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.080 marches that went on week after week after week in Melbourne. 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.399 They're still held from time to time. 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.399 And Adam Bant, I mean the smug look on his face, 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.800 the fact that he always thought he was the smartest 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.439 bloke in the room and he knew exactly where he 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:44.840 should take The Greens Party of Australia. Who has destroyed 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.640 it because it's not the party Bob Brown started. It's 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:49.800 not the party that saved the Franklin. It's not the 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.600 party that cares about trees. It's a party that managed 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:58.399 to endorse, incredibly, horribly the worst outbreak of Andy Symmitism 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.439 this country. He's ever seen. Siddence to the bloke and 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:05.720 maybe he will wake up, you know tomorrow and realize 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:09.919 that you know, sharing a DJ disk in the revs 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.920 nightclub in Chapel Street with sex toy flogger. Abby Chatfield 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:16.840 was probably not such a great idea after all, because 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:18.960 the Green voters have turned on him because of the 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:20.560 anti semitism. 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:25.280 Although don't forget Alban easy when on Abby Chatfield's program 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:27.399 with podcasts as well, for anyone at home, he doesn't 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.880 know who she is, you're not missing anything. But she's 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.480 a podcaster who famously said she wouldn't have any Zionists 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:37.959 on her show. But on TikTok and social media she 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.720 was heavily endorsing the Greens. And actually there was even 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:44.359 a funny clip today where she refused to concede that 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.119 the Greens had done badly. I mean, these people are 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.960 living in just fantasy land, Michael, I want to ask 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:52.640 you now. 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:53.840 Share Well, she probably can't. 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:57.720 Add up exactly. They need math letters as well. 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:01.199 I'm going to say, Sharry, we also should remember this 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:05.879 about Bant. This fellow band was an admirer of Leon 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.720 Trotsky when he was at university. So to accept and 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.919 endorse Steve's point, this is not an environmental party is 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.240 this is an extremist cult these days, And let's not 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:19.360 forget Ban. Let's not forget that. Forget that band described 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:22.520 Albanesi as a war criminal. I mean he said, Albanesi, 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:25.760 the Labor government is complicit in genocide, right, Genocide's a 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:30.080 war crimes. He's accused Anthony Alberanesi of presiding over a 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:35.800 government that engages in supports genocide. I mean, this guy, 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:41.679 this guy is despicable. And it's just outstanding that Australian 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.840 democracy has reached a point where they've decided to punt 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:47.360 to punk this extremist and good riddence. 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:52.159 Indeed, and I just loved Pauline Hanson's comment that she 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:55.760 was in her Brian nickers running round having a gen 0:21:55.800 --> 0:22:00.320 and tonic. Everyone's salarrating when they heard the news. Everyone 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:03.479 who watches s Guy news. In any case, Michael, I 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:05.200 just wanted to stick with you for a second. Ask 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:07.080 who you think would be a good leader for the 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:07.800 Liberal Party? 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:08.160 Now? 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:10.800 Do you are you of the viewer needs to go 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:14.440 in a conservative direction, a moderate direction? Are there any 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:20.080 centrist leaders at all? 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:22.919 So I'll leave the leadership to my friends in the 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:27.800 Parliamentary Party. But the answer is this, I look at 0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:30.320 it very simply. I accept that John how definition of 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:33.120 where the Liberal Party should be in general terms, it's 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:35.320 a center right party. It's a broad church, that's what 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:37.000 it is. It's not center and it's not right. It's 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:40.080 a combination of the both. And how has explained that 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:42.879 a thousand times, and he is the oracle, and I 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:45.359 completely agree with him, and he proved that that model 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:49.320 worked for elections in a row. But what the Liberal 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:51.720 Party needs to do is get back towards core brand equities, 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:53.320 whether they're right wing or left. We I'm not sure 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:56.199 the core brand equities economic management debt matters. I mean, 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:58.200 we're going to have a massive problem in this country 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:01.800 years down the track when we're when we're you know, 0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:05.560 owing owing the international community and the bondholders money as 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:08.639 we can't repay. So it needs to get back. It 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.320 needs to get back to core economic values. And I 0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:13.720 must say that I saw Andrew Bolts comments before. I 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:15.879 think Andrew Bolts writers, and I mean the fin Review's 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.200 got an article of Saftenan saying we had the most 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:22.200 left wing economic policy we've had since the nineteen seventies 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:27.080 in arguing for increased taxes and increasing the deficit even 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:30.399 small amounts. But really that's that should be exactly what 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:34.520 we're not doing so, you need to get back and 0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:36.919 you need to convince the electric the debt and deficit 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:40.040