1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: You all know John Brown's for a Harder Man. 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Sons and Campbell brown freation agreement for Campbell the club departways. 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 3: Welcome to Brownie's podcast. 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: That's right here for Brownie's podcast. Week what is it? 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Week thirdey and or a round thirty in the books? 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: Something that was in the books. 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 3: Hope had a good long weekend. 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: It was Jesus long. 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: It was long Thursday all the way through to Monday. 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: Footy wise, very very ordinary games of football scoring. 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: Has it been ordinary all season though, because it hasn't 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: been a great season or is it just because last 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: year was so many close games we got. 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: Spoiled maybe and and scoring was definitely up in the 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: first sort of two months of footy, but it might 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: have been a combination of matchups, weather, whatever. 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: But footy this weekend was pretty poor. 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: I mean, Thursday night started okay, the Hawks Doggies game 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: was it was good, and Yesterday was an absolute belt 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: yes for the King's birthday, but gee whiz. 21 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: The Richmond Swan's game was. 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I went down for me. Dear 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: old Na Nanavell's funeral, big send off on Friday. I 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: know we spoke about it last week brown Dog. We 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: had the funeral Friday. I haven't spoken since then, and 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: great turnout at the Kroi church where Mum where we 27 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: had Mum's funeral. You came down for that dog and 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: then Mums. Was a warm day. It was a complete 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: opposite for Nanavel's. It was absolutely pissing down. It was 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: raining sideways beanies only we needed Neil Danna's beanie's at 31 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: the at the cemetery fair Sae father pat ripped through 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: the burial. We got Nana Valle in the ground very quickly, 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: threw the rises on and then off to the off 34 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: to the racecourse, the wunable racecourse, and and then off 35 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: to the footy the Cali Hotel to watch Adelaide versus Brisbane. 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: So plenty of fun. Nothing better, great send off. Probably 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: you want better times. But all the cousins, the uncles 38 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: and arnies, the grandkids get together at the parb we 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: watch our team. Unfortunate lines went down, but was good 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: fun playing plenty of laughs. 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what JB. 42 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to be present in nineteen ninety 43 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: five when the great mister Football Teddy Whitten did that 44 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 2: lap of honor to my Rayah Carey when a hero 45 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: comes along, and I was a young impression of all 46 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: twelve year old at the time, and it's etched in 47 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: my memory ever since. One of my favorite memories of 48 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: the MCG not associated with an actual game, I reckon 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: having watched yesterday. Now I wasn't there. I was only 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: on watching from the TV. But when the great Neil 51 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: Dan and Herb was pushed right along the boundary line 52 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: and Collingwood and Melbourne and the umpires and everyone formed 53 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: a guard of honor, and the crowd roared, and every 54 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: single player went up and touched him before they went out, 55 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: that's got to be up right up there in terms 56 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: of the greatest moments that the MCG has seen. 57 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: Reminiscent of the EJ. Whitten. 58 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: No, it's comparable, isn't it. I've been I was fortunate 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: enough to be there first grade five ever went to 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight where Mom and Ali did a lap 61 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: of honor. Really it was amazing, and the crowd all 62 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 1: stood was round and I wasn't there for Ted's one, 63 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: but everyone that was there speaks about that as well. 64 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 1: Everyone stood up and yesterday, and I'm glad I walked 65 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: across the park yesterday. I thought, actually, I just want 66 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: to go and see this, you know, And and I'm 67 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: glad I did because it was magnificent and it was 68 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: a great speak to all the game. But isn't it 69 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: amazing eleven years it's been going for this MND game 70 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: and it was given three years to live, three years 71 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: to live. It's amazing really still going. 72 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: And technology the way that they've been able to allow 73 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: him to speak now for his face and his movement, 74 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: and he goes and speaks. 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: To both teams. He doesn't just go for the Melbourne Boys, 76 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: but he goes to Melbourne and Collingwood throughout the week 77 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: and speaks to them. And it has become iconic, hasn't 78 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: it has become a slide The beanies, well, the way 79 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: it's embraced by it, you know, not just that the 80 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: Melbourne Victorian people, but nationally. The amount of beanies that 81 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: were in the crowd yesterday, so I think there was 82 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: about seventy eight thousand or it was just shy of 83 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: eighty thousand I think yesterday, and I feel as if 84 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: about eighty percent of them would have beanies. Yeah, yeah, 85 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: so great fundraiser. It has to rival obviously the McGrath Foundation, 86 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: what Glen McGrath has done for his life that passed away, 87 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, the Pink Test match and all that sort 88 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: of stuff. It'd have to be on a similar scale 89 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: in the sporting landscape, wouldn't it. Yeah. 90 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: It goes to show that the power of sport and 91 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: charity if you can interlink them and people can feel 92 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: like they've they've got an attachment to it, you know, 93 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: which all Melbourne Collingwood people do. 94 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: And obviously the story. 95 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: Is involved, its transcending sport and I think you know 96 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: he's Australia of the Year. Should have probably got it 97 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: a year earlier, two years earlier. But you can't help 98 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: but just love the man and let's the sliders because 99 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: that's become just as important a part of the day 100 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: as the charity raising money football. That's part of it's 101 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: it's a real honor to be invited to go down 102 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: the slide. 103 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 3: You haven't you win? 104 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: As I went as Woody from Toy Story, if. 105 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: You had your time again, would you still go down? 106 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: Would because the kids asked me to go, so I 107 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: told the kids, the kids a little at stage, so 108 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: just mine was I might have been the second or 109 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: third year, so the kids were still young man, what 110 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to go as kids? Would he? They're watching 111 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: Toy Story on repeat? Or was either that or Door 112 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: or The Explorer? I thought, no, I'm not going his Dora. 113 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: I was happy with would He also went as Woody 114 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: for my last ever Mad Monday. Fear to say, the 115 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: outfit didn't survive. I had to buy another wood outfit. 116 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, dizzy, hasn't the effort that goes 117 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: into the costumes just ramped up from you to year. 118 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: It's got bigger and bigger, hasn't it all. I'm going 119 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: to start with Harry aunt Titmas. 120 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: She went your girl, Yes, yes, tis near Field Girl. 121 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: She went down as a living John Increase so good 122 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: at the top, the wig. 123 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: Good, those tight black leather pants, and he pulled it off. 124 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: I like Chervoy. Yeah, I thought I loved him as 125 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: thought he pulled that off. He's got a fair package, Servoy. 126 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: So he didn't have the like did he? Because of 127 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: the shrinking. 128 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: Do you think that there was probably well, I don't 129 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: think the shrinkings would marry. I think a lot of 130 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: girls are probably a bit flat that actual Shirvo because 131 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: he could have just come out as himself correct and 132 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: uld have been a very popular thing. What about that 133 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: he is at the apprehension when he gets to the bottom, 134 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: And someone had said, Hamish McLaughlin, if he stays in 135 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: thaws outfit and goes to the airport and flies home 136 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 1: with Sydney, we'll give him another ten grand. So obviously 137 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: gets put on the spot at the end of the 138 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: slide and he goes, okay, I'll do it. Drench. Now 139 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he actually did it. I think he 140 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: got off the plane and just put the week on 141 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: ten grand. I'm sure would have jumped in extra for charity. 142 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: Dates going as Heath Ledger. Yeah, joker, I thought that 143 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: was I mean Heath Ledgers not an Australian icon. 144 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: Pretty good costume, wasn't it. 145 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: Yeah. 146 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: I love Tubby's touch with his old mate chain Morn brilliant. Yeah, 147 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: that's the cricket theme there as well with with s 148 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: K And every time I go, I just pat the 149 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: statue of warning, just saying well all those poker games 150 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: do you reckon over the journey the poker games used 151 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: to go to Warnings place for the regular monthly poker games. 152 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, when he was in town. 153 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: I was sort of almost fortnightly. Would you have been 154 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: up or down against the great Meat? 155 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: I can comprehensively say I'm well down. And I probably 156 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: was uninvited because I was the charity. You know, there's 157 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: one lesson. We've got a life, Yeah. 158 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Where did you go wrong? Against warning? What do you have? 159 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: Pretty sharp? 160 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: I would be great, probably this sums up my life. 161 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: I'd be great for ninety of the night, patient and 162 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: folding when I had to turn, and then I'd make 163 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: one bad decision, all in bluffing gone, you know. 164 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: HD medicine before you went. 165 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: I'd be going for twenty two weeks, you know, and 166 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: then bank one incident, I'll be out for sell. I'd 167 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: be driving home and I'd stick to the speed limit 168 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: for the whole way home, except I'd lose concentration. 169 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: I'd go sixty eight through a sixties and lose my license. 170 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Ah. I had one of those situations. I've turn right now. 171 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: I think I turned right. I swear to God you're 172 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: allowed to turn right there. But there was that night 173 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: time and as soon as I went through I saw 174 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: the flash. Oh no, that wasn't me, was it? That 175 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: wasn't And I look back and I think I'm waiting 176 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: for the well, I was actually waiting, so I wasn't 177 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: one of those things where you speed up think I'm 178 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: going to make this. I was actually waiting, thinking I 179 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: was going to turn right. But because I copped the flash, 180 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: it was one of those lanes where you can go 181 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: straight ahead or maybe turn right now. The dotted line 182 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: was on my right hand side and went around the corner. 183 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: So but the fact that a flash came. 184 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: Out in trouble on, yeah, yeah, you're in trouble. 185 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: You don't reckon. I can lay off the points to you. 186 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: The only problem is at night too, it really lights 187 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: it up. So I'm not thinking, do you think you'd 188 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: be able to pass me? 189 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 190 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you've got the Queensland driver's license on. 191 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: It, you know, Yeah, that might be a bit of 192 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: an issue. Remember the judge that tried to get off 193 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: years ago. He put his he put a relative down. 194 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: The only problem is the relative died eight in months earlier, 195 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: and because he was a judge, he thought he could 196 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: talk his way o it ended up doing. We end 197 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: up doing jail time. Really yeah, because he kept he kept, 198 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: he kept putting it in and they said no, no, no, 199 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: that's first up. You got to come clean. 200 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: Famous words from Allen Dynak and he sure. 201 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: Just quickly not to get too far off the point. 202 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: But I'm very interested in this game with warning, did 203 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: you warn he have any tells? Uh? 204 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 3: He's pretty sharp. 205 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he would smoke the way through the Baker 206 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: game mate, And I'm obviously an asthmatic, so I'd always 207 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: have to take my ventol and buffer with me. 208 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 3: I'd leave their stinking of smoke passive smoking. I'll tell 209 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: you what. There was Magna Dubanski, yes, yeah, that was 210 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 3: not too bad. 211 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: When as as the Kath and Kim. 212 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: Character, yeah, at last heally, yes, she was very strong. 213 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: And Margo Robbie was Watson, Liz Watson from the netball now. 214 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 2: They did well, it was it was a great day 215 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: and the game lived up to the expectations. 216 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: Well, you'll get into the meat tray. But I thought 217 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: I thought that well, I think. 218 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: Melbourne were a little bit stiff and I always look 219 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: at preventable goals. 220 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 3: Right now, let's they gave way two fifty meter penalties 221 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: that resulted in goals. 222 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: That was the one earlier in the game. The young 223 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: player kicked his first goaling foot in, then cozy pick 224 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: in the last with twenty seconds on the clock and 225 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: the ball was on the wing just before halftime, Bailey 226 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: Fridge lipped over and Josh Deakos picked it up hit 227 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 2: membery goal right. 228 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: That was a preventable goal. And then obviously the Bailey 229 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: freaks mark in the last quarter when he went to 230 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 3: play on. 231 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: Yes, so did he not have the awareness was out 232 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: of the back, played well, but he just didn't have 233 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: that awareness The moment might have got to him. 234 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: So even if you take away two of those form 235 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: goal you win that game of footy. 236 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: You know, they were so bloody, looked really good and 237 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: being at the ground there you got a good perspective. 238 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: And everyone talks about Collingwood's defensive system which was outstanding 239 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: once again, but Melbourne's defensive system while they set up 240 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: beyond the ball was really good as well. So because 241 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: when Collingwood moved the ball again, sliced the ribbons. So 242 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: I thought they were really well organized beyond the ground. 243 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: A couple of the meat trays sausages, you've got your 244 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: playing old beef sausages, Ed Langdon. 245 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was a good matchup. 246 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: That's right coming up against the well, did you say 247 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: the Wagoo sausages, the black Angles sausages in Nick Dakos, 248 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: How did you say it? If we look at it, 249 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: Nineteen disposals for Dakos clearances, a few score involvements. Ed 250 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: Langdon had four disposals and gave away four three kicks. 251 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: Yet even Craig McCrae said, I thought he might have 252 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: got the honors. And Lee Matthews said last night on 253 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: the Couch that Ed Langdon got the honors. Now that's 254 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: a tough one for me to swallow, because Lee Matthews 255 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: would always come out so say Simon black Skinning tag 256 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: or Vossi or Akka, and he would always say maybe 257 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: it was to give the boys some comps. Say Blackie, 258 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: you know so, and so I played on you. He 259 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: had fourteen, you had twenty one. So in my books, Blackie, 260 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: you won that match up. So when I look at 261 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: that and I go decos nine eight, Langdon Hailey had four, 262 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: you go, well, Deacos still won that battle, didn't he? 263 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: No, No, well, only because he's such an influential player. 264 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: Yep. 265 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,599 Speaker 2: And I was at the game against North Melbourne a 266 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: few weeks ago when they didn't tag him and he 267 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: ended up having thirty eight touches, right, and. 268 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: There's the old man. Yeah, he's catching the chain. I'm 269 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: taking all the farme tonight, so beautiful. I have a 270 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: chat about that in a bit. 271 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: I think it would have been ideal if Langton had 272 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: a little bit more footy. 273 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: But his job was just a nullify. He did a 274 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: great job. 275 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 2: If you let Nick Dakos have twenty five even thirty, 276 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: he slices you to shreds. 277 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: So I gave that winter langdon So. 278 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: Are you saying you prefer just playing beef sausages. You're 279 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: not a gourmet man, Nah, I'm not. I love I 280 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: love a gourmet. 281 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: But if you can, if you can. 282 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: Shut out a gourmet sausage, which they did, I'm a 283 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: big I'm a big believer in you've got to tag 284 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: good players, don't. I don't care for upsets yourstructure in 285 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 2: the midfield. You need to find a way to tag 286 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 2: your locking eels, your Nick dakos as, guys like that, 287 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: because that's what kept Melbourne in the game. 288 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: Why did Craig mccraye then not because when he put 289 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: Dakostar forward, they dropped that tag. They just played it. 290 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: So why did they not just leave Dekos at r 291 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: forward because he did do twenty center bounds, so keep 292 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: on to putting back in the center bounds, trying. 293 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: To get him involved in the game. 294 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: Maybe, I know, maybe they thought they had an advantage 295 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: with Langdon being in there, just following him around. Yes, 296 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: but yeah, I liked the fact that they went down 297 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: that path. And look, if it had won, if they 298 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: had won, we'd all be talking about it, you know 299 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: how good it was. 300 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: The fact that Collingwood won changed everyone's mindset a little bit. 301 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: He got five free kicks. Four. Yeah, the umpires definitely 302 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: came out after halftime and word. 303 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: About it, because they do have a talk the umpires 304 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: throughout the game. They no doubt the umpires coach would 305 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: have said, ed Langdon's tackling, it's a hard tag. They 306 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been aware of that coming into the game, 307 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: the umpires because Neil Bullen did it last year. 308 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: Yep. 309 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: So the free kick right at the end for the 310 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: push and the bat was not there, No, that was 311 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: a free kick. 312 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: It was pretty last He was lucky there. Melbourne better 313 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: deserve to win, yes, but they never really. 314 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: Led you look here, Clayton Oliver was a lot better again, 315 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: you look ahead day you think Melbourne's probably going to 316 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: end up missing the eate, but be the form team 317 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: at the back end of the year potentially because I'll 318 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: just keep warming up. But the fact that they lost 319 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: the first five games is going to be costly. 320 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: It helps when they've got Lever and May back there, 321 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: and this year they haven't had both of. 322 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: Them for a long periods of time. Leave has miss 323 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: some footy. May was outstanding. What did you make of 324 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: the May Gorne incident? 325 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: Well, it's the chuck steak hard to swallow, Yeah, you know, 326 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: because it's been tough. You know, Stephen Mayes's he does it. 327 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: He wears his heart and his slave and brilliantly. He 328 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: did play brilliantly. But time at the place isn't here. 329 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: It's your captain like he's trying to keep the ball moving. Obvious, 330 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: they've got to get the ball down the other end 331 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: in thirty seconds. I don't know if you need, Stephen 332 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: may One of the other lady's getting in the face 333 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: of the skipper and I'm not sure how you would 334 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: react to that. Everyone knows you made a mistake. Now 335 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: the hardest thing to do, but the best form of leadership. 336 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: I always used to think when a teammate, especially your 337 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: teammate who gives his all, makes a mistake, go over 338 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: there and pick him up. Yeah, that's the time to 339 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: put the arm around him, not to get stuck in 340 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: on him. Different if they make a wrong decision and 341 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: go against team plans, then you can give him a spray. 342 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: But when Max's essentis he just rolling the dice, which 343 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: is supposed to do, you know, the last thing you 344 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: should do is go over and crack him. Yeah, and look. 345 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: I think the stark difference was when Jack Crisp in 346 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: his record breaking game when he beat Jim Stein's consecutive 347 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: he had that shot after the sign and missed. 348 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: Right. That's right. 349 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: Every colin we play got over and. 350 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: It was real. 351 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: Because we didn't see that yesterday. Two competitive guys, MAXI 352 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: would have been frustrated himself and losing the captain. Did 353 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: the push have to happen? 354 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: Probably not, But you're right time and a place, and 355 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: that's easier said than done. Because Hodge and I used 356 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: to always go at it because we were both competitive guys, 357 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: and he would was the general down back, so he's 358 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: gone brand and go left, go right, pick him up 359 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: to this. And one day we had a verbal older 360 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: k to the point where Hodgy turned to me and said, 361 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: I get off the field. And I started running towards 362 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 2: the boundary and Andrew Russell came out and said what 363 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 2: are you doing. 364 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 3: I said, I'm going off. He said why. 365 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 2: I said, Hoggie sent me off, And then I realized 366 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: that Hodgy wasn't the coach had a case. I turned 367 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: around and came back. 368 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: But it does come back and tell you to fuck off. 369 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 3: You don't speak to me like that. 370 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: That's right, you know. 371 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it was against Carlton and Maddie Lappin 372 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: and the hell. 373 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: But that's and we were. 374 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: Up by one hundred points as well, so it's not 375 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: like it was a close game. But he's so passionate. 376 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you played best in the game, Vossy 377 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 3: and Uncle Martin like absolutely. 378 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: Well. I remember VOSSI gave me a great spray. But 379 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: it was within reason because I think it was my 380 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: second year. We're playing against North Melbourne. I ran back 381 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: and I was supposed to get back and help out 382 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: in the defense. He fifty. The ball got out the 383 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: back and North got an easy goal running in the 384 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: goals and VOSSI said, get back and carve us where 385 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: the contest doing our work here? I said, well, it's 386 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: not my job, he said a bit back at him. Yeah, 387 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: I'll be back at him. He goes, fuck off, it's 388 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: not your job. You do want to take to the time. 389 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, fair enough. I had 390 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: the tal between the leagues all the way back and 391 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: I thought, that's the time. You're not back answering there. 392 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: But I reckon Mexican had every right to tell Stephen 393 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: made a fuck off that situation. That's not the right time. 394 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 3: It was a bit of a it's been a bit 395 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: of a media build up, you know what I mean. 396 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: These things happened. 397 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 2: But King's Birthday ninety thousand, one point game. They got 398 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: it on camera like it's a talking point. 399 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: That's right. Did Steve Steve by back at you with 400 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: the lineup of the night cluping in La there? 401 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: He did, but he didn't do any No, he didn't. 402 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: But it was an absolute cracking game. Was the game 403 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: of the weekend. 404 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: The other massive beat up this week, and I think 405 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: Kane corns now that when he said I couldn't believe 406 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: that the chat around the bump from Tom Stewart onto 407 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: Noah Anderson, which was absolutely perfect brutal, yes, physical, Yes, 408 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 2: in the context of the. 409 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: Game for the ball. You know, you don't think he 410 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: got to the ball about the same time. 411 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: I don't gry. 412 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: Is clearly second of the ball, you think. 413 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: And they chose to bump, which shoulder to shoulder is 414 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: always in this great game of ours. Okay, Yeah, the fact. 415 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: That he chose to bump and thought he was going 416 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: to be second of the ball, because we know Stuart's 417 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: as hard as they came, but he situates to say 418 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: on a playing Let's use Michael Voss for example. If 419 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: Voss thought, yeah, he's a reasonable chance I'm going to 420 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: be laid, but my sheer will would just get me there. Ironically, 421 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: what Tom Stewart did by opting just to stay up, 422 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: it actually saved nar Anderson because if you say Michael 423 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: Voss had to come through there and thought I'm going 424 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: to I reckon, I can get to Narr Anderson at 425 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: the same time as the ball, he would have come 426 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: through head down and both players would have hit each 427 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: other with the head, So ironically, Tom Stewart has saved 428 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: the situation. 429 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: It was the right play because if he slides in 430 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 2: and takes Noah's legs, it's a free kick against If 431 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: he comes flying through, that might. 432 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: Be a head class head class both. He was second 433 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 3: of the ball, just marginal. He chose to bump. 434 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: Now there's only a duty of care to the head, 435 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: right if you choose to bump and you get him 436 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: in the head because you got lucky, didn't he Well 437 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: you could say you got lucky or he timed it 438 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: to perfection. 439 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 3: Either or that was shouldered and shoulder contact. He folded 440 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 3: him half. It was one of the big hits. 441 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: You know, not just in in this era, but any 442 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: era that that bump stacks up and. 443 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: Fold a great word. And Jack Brown he's playing rugby 444 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: league now he always gets to fold a couple of kids. 445 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: He folded him up like a piece of garment like 446 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: that for taking the hit enough, and he's a skipper, 447 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: and he wouldn't he would have known it was coming. 448 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: But the talk around it that the m R. We're 449 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: going to look at it and all this. 450 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 2: Stuff was like, really, it's still a physical, brutal game, right, 451 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: and he's a great exponent of it. Tom Stewart, there's 452 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 2: no duty of care to a player if it shouldered 453 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: his shoulder, like if that bump came on and he 454 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 2: broke his collar bone. We all aren't saying, oh, there's 455 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 2: a duty of care to Noah and his collar bone, right. 456 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: We only say that about the head, which is fair enough. 457 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: So I thought there was a beat up over enough. 458 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: The only thing, the only thing when it is an 459 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: issue for me is when a player runs past the ball, 460 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: because we all should if you get to the ball 461 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: like Sam Duram. So if Stuart had it got to 462 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: the ball first and ran past it to clean up 463 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: because he pick it, I reckon that's wrong. So but 464 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: that situation MS had common sense last couple of weeks 465 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: because Lloyd make through that. 466 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: He's been good. 467 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: And I thought that the hit on Chera he deserved 468 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: two weeks, got two weeks. 469 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: That's an action we don't quite like. 470 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: Well, we haven't seen that far and see him. Darren's 471 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: a hard player. We love the way he goes about it. 472 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: But it was unique situation. Like you wonder whether Scotty 473 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: had fired the boys up at quarter time and asked 474 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: for a response, because are pretty ordinary defensively in the 475 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: first quarter, Cartra able to remove the ball, it will 476 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: you feel like he really hit the boys up and 477 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: see him Durnam, So I'm going to take it upon myself. 478 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: And he came out and he saw the red mist 479 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: first minute of the second quarter and he's just saying, Charon, 480 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: just gone bang. 481 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: I've come up with the concept I would tell the 482 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: generous if they would like this, I only get half 483 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: a dozen incidents from your career in my career that we. 484 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 3: Didn't get rubbed out for. 485 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, played them to Michael Christian and then he 486 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: can adjudicate how they would be judged now in today's footage. 487 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: Well, maybe some of them that we did get suspended potentially, 488 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: maybe what we get spend for now? 489 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 3: And then how many weeks upgrade? 490 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 491 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 3: Upgraded? Signed up with twenty nine weeks. 492 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: I reckon there's half a dozen incidents that I put 493 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: bumps on that now got the player high whatever that 494 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: we're considered great plays that you would get three four 495 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: weeks now might end up if we speak to Chris 496 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: retrospective tribunal, I like this and I could end up 497 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: with forty plus week. 498 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: So you think there's a chance the record books could 499 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: be changed. 500 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: We need to go back retrospective living and give Norm 501 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 2: Smith medals out to players in the seventies. 502 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: And see he might be changed. He might win the 503 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: Norm Smith. You might have to hand back the Norm 504 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: Smith medal from two thousand and eight. This is a 505 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: big cuve and you might extra brown lots. 506 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 3: Retrospective tribuneal could work. 507 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're going to get onto Chris that. But 508 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: Chris has done a good job so far this year, 509 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. 510 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 3: Back in a second, Welcome back to Brannie's podcast JB. 511 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: I watched the game a Footy Sunday and it was 512 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: it was meant to be a great showcase in new 513 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 2: venue Bumbrey. 514 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: Western Australia. There was a sellout. North Melbourne sold their 515 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: home game there. 516 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: I love the fact they're going in the country, all 517 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: suburban stuff. We tossed it up a couple of weeks ago, 518 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: Dog that maybe gold Cap Saint Kilda should have been 519 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: in morab and we saw it at glen Aldur and 520 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: gather around. I don't mind those one off games. 521 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 3: It's good and they played back to back. 522 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: They got the docors down there, again this week I'll 523 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 2: say this, and the poor people of Bumbury that went 524 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: there and what watched it, I call it the Bumbary 525 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 2: Butchering because it is the worst game of football that 526 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 2: I have ever seen in my life. I'm not just 527 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: saying that to be sensational. That's the worst game. They 528 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: couldn't hit targets. 529 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: Not the day we played against each other in sixty 530 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: five goals to four ours. 531 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: At that game was like with the greatest game of 532 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 2: all time compared to the absolute rubbish was dished up 533 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: so at one stage, right at one stage. At halftime 534 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: against North Melbourne on Saturday Sunday, the West Coast Eagles 535 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: goal efficiency inside fifty was zero point zero three percent. 536 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: Right, zero points zero three percent. 537 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: They couldn't score. They kicked like nine or ten points 538 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: in a row. Dominated the game a. 539 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: Lot of inside fifties heaps. 540 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: So since it started twenty twenty four, West Coast have 541 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: recorded three games where their goal efficiency is less than 542 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: ten percent. 543 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 3: Unheard of. 544 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: Round three twenty twenty four versus the Doggies, they kicked 545 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: three goals from fifty one inside fifty ess five percent. 546 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: Round twenty three last year versus Carden four goals from 547 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: forty four in so fifties nine percent, and six goals 548 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: from sixty three inside fifties, which is nine percent. Poor 549 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: old Minim Macgualta would have been pulling his hair out 550 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 2: because they smashed North and couldn't. 551 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 3: Put it on the scoreboard. And wouldn't it have been 552 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: a long week for Clark or North and they've dropped 553 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 3: that game. 554 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: It was interesting to say Lee proposed to pose the 555 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: question last night about how challenging it must be for 556 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: Alistair Clarkson after coaching a great team and finals and 557 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: premierships more often than night, and now he's coaching North 558 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: and they don't look like they're making much headway. How 559 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: would Clark be dealing with that privately? 560 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: He'd be incredibly frustrated the difference that win makes to 561 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: that whole for this whole week, because they're they're there 562 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: for a week, right, They've got to front up again 563 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: and playing Bumbrea. Had they have lost that game, the 564 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: media scrutiny, the way the game is reviewed internally sat 565 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 2: all that. But they got They got lucky that cam 566 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: Zu House stood up in the last quarter kicked a 567 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 2: couple of goals. Simp can kick the goal and they 568 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: ran over the top of them, but. 569 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 3: Like Lakie was kept goalless. They've got enormous issues, enormous 570 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: issues North. 571 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: Now, what do you think about your old teammates coaching performance, 572 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: Sam Mitchell on Thursday night? They're very good, wasn't It 573 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: started off with James Cicily giving him a spell. Clearly 574 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: he was injured. Yeah, and he's decided to take stock 575 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: as much as Mitch tried to defend it in the press, 576 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: and I reckon, Mitch has just gone home, mate. We 577 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: need to help you from yourself. 578 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. And you like that, you know, Fish. 579 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: They laid out in two tackles. Yeah, pressure right then 580 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: and there under the roof. I reckon, they've been. 581 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: More tackles at half time than they had the previous 582 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: week in the whole guard Yeah yeah, and they dismantled 583 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: the Bulldogs of the Fantastic. 584 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: They've been a bit slow after the bye for a 585 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 2: few years, the Doggies. But yeah, thirty eight tackles the 586 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 2: week before against the Pies. We got the response that 587 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: Mitch would have wanted, but it was a week late. 588 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: That's what I thought, That's how I thought they played 589 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 2: against Collinwood. They didn't copt some some clips in the 590 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: in the media, but when they bring that level of 591 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: intensity and pressure, then. 592 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: Their ball movement gets going, not the other way around. JB. 593 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: I reckon. 594 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 3: For too long the players had been saying, it's. 595 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: All right if we lose the clearances, it's all right 596 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: if we lose the contested possession, because we run and 597 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: we carry and we switch and everything. 598 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: But John Knewkeam took that personally. It was fantastic oneing 599 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: because Waple had a quiet day, but Newgan was outstanding 600 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: with the clearances and all that sort of stuff. Friday 601 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: Nights game Brisbane the Adelaide. Brisbane should have won in 602 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: the end. 603 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: Both both coaches thought they should have won. 604 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: Both actually good. 605 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 3: It was good Stuf because Nixie goes well, we did win. 606 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: We did win, and were you like the AD's a 607 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: bad like over the last three or four years, the 608 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: lines getting complacent. Jack very well plays it on the 609 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: catch and now I've mentioned the catch a few times. 610 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: You can mention your shout anytime, Doug. But yeah, the 611 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: lines of complace. I haven't seen that during the year. 612 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: The Lions haven't come in dominated, but I feel like 613 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: because of what they did in the Grand Final, it 614 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: was the best they've ever played. We've sort of compare 615 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: them to that bench. 616 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: A high standard. 617 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: You think, yeah, well, I don't think it's well. I 618 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: don't think it's achievable to be able to back that 619 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: up week in weekend when teams are amped up and 620 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: coming at you, and especially in a tough theater over 621 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: in the Adelaide Oval against a good team in the Crash. 622 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: They're a good enough side to not have to play 623 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: a full four quarters and win. And we saw that 624 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: early in the year when their first halves were poor 625 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: and then they'd run over the top of them. 626 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 3: Look, they're second on the ladder, nine wins, three losses 627 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 3: in a drawer. 628 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, all they need to do is finish in the 629 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: top four and they'll be fine and just pace themselves 630 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: and if they're playing their best foot in September they'll 631 00:28:59,120 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: be hard to beat again. 632 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: So complacent, No, I don't think so. I think we 633 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: just get too worked up with week to week results. 634 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: You know, I think Chris Fahanin has done done a 635 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: fantastic job. He's avoided the premiership hangover as simple as that. 636 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: He's got him in a really good spot. Obviously, they 637 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: just need to keep their form up to the back 638 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: end of the year, qualify top two because you get 639 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: that all important home finals and in the state club. 640 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: But you know, obviously the challenges around what the forward 641 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: line looks like without Joy danaher seeing Dale come back in. 642 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: So you know, I think they're working towards their best 643 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: lineup and their best footy in the back end of 644 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: the year. Jack Payne a good play absolutely under a 645 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: healthy Jack Payne complaying the big boppers and allows Harris 646 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: Andrews to be able to float off a little bit more. 647 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: It's an important part of competition. 648 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: So even jb that tiny little moments within games, the 649 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: Bailey Fridge moment yesterday, West Coast not being able to 650 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: convert some easy shots. 651 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 3: Bid him on the ass. 652 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: Brisbane in the last quarter Dominate have the last ten, eleven, 653 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: twelve inside fifties, all those shots on goals, can't kick 654 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: him and bid him on the ass, whereas Adelais got 655 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: the other end and kicked five straight. 656 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: The competition is so even. 657 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: Three kicks young day Wix on Sunday night. Yeah, like 658 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: he's away that fifty with a minute and a half 659 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: to go Essenon's right. In the game, they cough it 660 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: up correct. 661 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: So it's it's who takes those those moments and who doesn't. 662 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: And that's that sometimes defies seasons, you know, matches and premierships. 663 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: Before we go Hall of Fame tonight, man, I'm going 664 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: to go. I've been for a few years All of Famer. 665 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: You get invited every year. You get a table or 666 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: just two seats. Two seats, and we're gonna take Dad. 667 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: Jud ringing would be good. Yeah, he's ringing fruit well. 668 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 1: He asked me, you've got a bow tie, said, bro, 669 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: we're not doing the bow tie. You just got the 670 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: black tie. But Jaddy text me and said he's tagging 671 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: his old man. Okay, I'll take the old man. 672 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 3: We'll go along. 673 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: And I think your old teammate Luke Cage our premiership capital. 674 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: He wasn't in the premiership captain in LA but he 675 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: was premiership captain after that. I think he gets inducted. 676 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: Magnificent, so he should. 677 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: How many were years you have to wait when you 678 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: retire five years. He's a walk up. They might be 679 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: putting a legend in so world as well. 680 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 3: Get inducted last year. But we'll accept it this year. 681 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: What Gary Lyons Gary Lyons over? I was looking at 682 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: Gary line the other day. Five times all Australian played 683 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: good games and footy for Victorian State of Origin over 684 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: the years. Made a Greend final with Melbourne. Melbourne captain 685 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: for a long time. I suppose he's not in the 686 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. 687 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: I tell you who he absolutely should be in the 688 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. I'm not just saying this because I'm 689 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: his son, but mel he's in there. 690 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: Coach, especially w a football playing state of Origin, I 691 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: thought was in it. 692 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: Nah, really because he's always told to meet Trey to 693 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: get fucked, thank you, to get Andrew. 694 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: Well, maybe we can't tell people to get fucked now 695 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: Valor found out. Maybe we need to make a push 696 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 1: for big mal. Here we go, Doug finishes off strong. 697 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 3: Time for what a world? 698 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: Now this is an interesting one In Finland, right, traffic 699 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 2: fines aren't one size fits all. 700 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 3: So you have you speed and I speed. We both 701 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 3: got out three hundred and twenty five dollars. 702 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: Fine, right, there's scale based over there on your income. Really, 703 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: so under the country's day fine system, penalties for offenses 704 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: like speeding are calculated using a person's daily disposable income, 705 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: making sure the punishment hits equally hard regardless of your 706 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: financial status, right, which is good for equality. Authorities determine 707 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: how many days worth of income should be fined, depending 708 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: on how severe the violation. 709 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 3: Now that all sounds good. 710 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: One of the most talked about cases happen in June 711 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three when a billionaire businessman, Andre Vicklough was 712 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: clocked speeding eighty two kilometers an hour in a fifty. 713 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 2: So he's thirty two days over right, the result automatics. 714 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 3: What I reckon? The result was the fine based on 715 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 3: his daily. 716 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: Income earning gunner off himself billionaires, so made bit of money. 717 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: So I'm going to say three thousand dollars one hundred 718 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: and twenty one thousand euro which equates to one hundred 719 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: and twenty nine thousand, four hundred due to his wealth. 720 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 3: So staggering, record breaking speeding fine for Wicklough. He accepted responsibility, 721 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: saying he will slow down in the future, and that 722 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: story illustrates Finland's unique approach to fairness in the justice system. Finally, 723 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 3: we had finish in the Victorian justice system. But yeah, 724 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 3: he copped one hundred and twenty. 725 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: One flood that arrived in the mail hundred and twenty 726 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: one Grand Degenerates. Anyway, I have you enjoyed the listen 727 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: which had to get on Thursday