Speaker 1: I get a team.
Speaker 2: It's Kraigathew Harp, Tiffany and Cookpatrick, James Bonello, the U Project.
Speaker 1: Every two weeks the three of us get together.
Speaker 2: We don't really, let's be honest, we don't get a
Speaker 2: lot done. I don't know what value this is to
Speaker 2: the world, but for some strange reasons, some of you
Speaker 2: like it. Some of you fucking love this episode. I
Speaker 2: do not know why, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 2: But anyway, here we are. We'll start with the one
Speaker 2: at the bottom of my screen, Tiffany Cook, the giggling,
Speaker 2: fucking boxer pugilist, Hi.
Speaker 3: Cook, bottom of your screen, and the top of your
Speaker 3: Christmas list?
Speaker 1: Oh right, really not really, no, no.
Speaker 3: Not the present for you? The presents are you going
Speaker 3: to buy?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not Yeah, I'm not that great at Christmas.
Speaker 2: When there's only you and Ron and Mary and they're
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty two and one hundred and forty three, respectively,
Speaker 2: Christmas is not a big extravaganza, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, true, true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And thanks for the nine hundred messages you sent
Speaker 2: me last night night.
Speaker 1: Patrick, She's trying to Hi. Patrick.
Speaker 4: My takeaway from all that is that I'm looking to
Speaker 4: get Christmas gift from you.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'll do, though, I'll give you
Speaker 2: a cuddle. I promise you I will come up this this.
Speaker 2: I promise you on air that I will come up
Speaker 2: and see your house and hang out with you.
Speaker 1: And that's you and your knew everything.
Speaker 2: So I yeah, Tip sent me some pictures of puppies
Speaker 2: last night that apparently I need to get one of.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, you know, one or two. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're cute.
Speaker 2: And then and then I stupidly asked how much are they?
Speaker 2: And then that was it. That was like, oh, he's
Speaker 2: getting one. So then there was an onslaught of like
Speaker 2: twenty text messages over the following our.
Speaker 4: Patrick. That's what though.
Speaker 3: I just told him this this morning. They were born
Speaker 3: on his birthday. Like if that's not meant to be, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know what is.
Speaker 1: Is that a sign from the puppy god?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the puppy gods have spoken loud and clear.
Speaker 4: Love knows no boundaries with a dog.
Speaker 1: That is true. That is true. Anyway, Good morning, Patrick,
Speaker 1: how are you?
Speaker 4: I'm great. I know that you really want to get
Speaker 4: straight into the topics because we you know you were
Speaker 4: a little bit critical at the start, saying we talk shit.
Speaker 4: But because I want to say hello to a friend
Speaker 4: of mine, Kim and her dog Walter, I just thought
Speaker 4: I'll give a shout out because it's funny. We meet
Speaker 4: at the park walking our dogs and I go to
Speaker 4: tell her my latest news and she said, I've already
Speaker 4: heard it. She has, I know, since the podcast. So
Speaker 4: it's like, I feel like I have no conversation topics
Speaker 4: whatsoever because it's already known.
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of, you know, having a public forum.
Speaker 2: What kind of dog is Walter?
Speaker 4: Oh? I think he's a whippet. Yeah, you would, La, Tiff,
Speaker 4: You would absolutely love to have a doggie date with
Speaker 4: Kim and Walter because Walter is the fastest dog, and
Speaker 4: obviously you know what that's all about. It's amazing. Zoomies
Speaker 4: are the best fun ever.
Speaker 1: Is he like the opposite of your dog?
Speaker 4: Hey, my day deserved. He's got a beard in.
Speaker 2: Your Dog's like the philosopher of the canine world. All
Speaker 2: he needs is a fucking pipe and a comfy chair.
Speaker 2: That little motherfucker could run seminars.
Speaker 4: You know, he is so treat driven. I swear he
Speaker 4: would recite poetry for a treat?
Speaker 1: Really he probably would.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He jumps through, hoops, literally rolls over, does all the
Speaker 4: tricks you can get to do anything for a treat.
Speaker 4: It's a bit like me.
Speaker 1: I know what you roll over for.
Speaker 2: But that's another bloody thing that's not well.
Speaker 1: Patrick, tell us about it's tiff.
Speaker 2: Please take that out tape for God's sake, Ah fuck it.
Speaker 1: Leave it in.
Speaker 2: Patrick, tell us about wherever you want to go. I'm
Speaker 2: not even going to direct you today. So if you've
Speaker 2: never heard this show, folks, apologies, apologies. This is the
Speaker 2: we come under the banner of tech chat, and sometimes
Speaker 2: we even do that.
Speaker 4: Oh man, yeah, I imagine. Look, digital cameras have a
Speaker 4: really like they're really good. Now, if you get the
Speaker 4: top of the range iPhone or a Pixel or a Samsung,
Speaker 4: you can take pretty damn decent photographs with it. You know,
Speaker 4: it's it's pretty good. But wait for this. Imagine if
Speaker 4: you had three hundred phone cameras and you could take
Speaker 4: a photo so with all three hundred at once, how
Speaker 4: good would that be?
Speaker 2: Grego, I don't understand how what Okay, Well I'm just
Speaker 2: going to go with yeah, great match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want to expand on that or is
Speaker 1: that it.
Speaker 4: No, there's a new observatory that's opening in Chile and
Speaker 4: it's going to have the processing power. It's a massive
Speaker 4: observatory and it means the night sky will have phenomenal
Speaker 4: photographs taken of it as of next year, and they'll
Speaker 4: take about one thousand photos every night over ten years.
Speaker 4: This is just a short term project. It's just so
Speaker 4: kind of exciting because we're talking about discovering seventeen billion
Speaker 4: stars and twenty billion galaxies and effectively it's got the resolution,
Speaker 4: so the quality of the photographs is the equivalent of
Speaker 4: three hundred mobile phones.
Speaker 1: Well that is I'm not that excited about that.
Speaker 2: But if Brian Cox is listening, he'll be He'll be
Speaker 2: firming up around the front of his tidy whities heat
Speaker 2: he's oh God, have you ever seen Brian Cox? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I have seen him. I only understood about half of
Speaker 4: what he said.
Speaker 1: Like, have you you right, Tiff?
Speaker 4: I saw him.
Speaker 2: I went and saw him live in Brisbane with my
Speaker 2: friend doctor Alex. So I was watching one of the
Speaker 2: smartest people in the world talk while living sitting next
Speaker 2: to maybe the smartest person I know the neurosurgeon, and
Speaker 2: it's fair to say that I was, like you, Tiff,
Speaker 2: I needed to him to interpret a little bit me
Speaker 2: and the cosmos and the universe. And it doesn't really
Speaker 2: blow my mind, like the way I'm more interested in humans.
Speaker 2: But but it is. It is fascinating.
Speaker 4: But you delve into the cosmos that's inside a person's skull.
Speaker 1: Oh, I like that.
Speaker 2: The inner cosmos, the inner world. Wow, that's true. That
Speaker 2: could be the name of my next book, the Inner Cosmos.
Speaker 2: There you go, take that out, Jiff, take that out.
Speaker 4: He uses that. I'm going to be so annoyed.
Speaker 1: The inner cosmos.
Speaker 4: Yeah, stood, he going, how's all that research going? Are
Speaker 4: you getting close to the end or something?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I am, I am, I am, I am.
Speaker 2: I don't sound I'm not excited, but I'm excited, but
Speaker 2: I'm not excited.
Speaker 3: So last night I said an answer or a positive affirmation.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't want to bore people with it, right, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm getting close to the end. So all the all
Speaker 2: of research that I need to do has been done
Speaker 2: or the data has been collected, all the academic milestones.
Speaker 2: Standing in front of the board, which is four of
Speaker 2: them and presenting research and kind of justifying your place
Speaker 2: in the program, and all that's been done and ticked off,
Speaker 2: and so now I have to have to write a
Speaker 2: minimum of two, preferably three papers, which I'm writing two
Speaker 2: of them as we speak, and also an eighty thousand
Speaker 2: worth thesis. But my biggest, my biggest paper is called
Speaker 2: a systematic literature review looking at meta accuracy and metaperception.
Speaker 1: I don't want to bore you anymore, but.
Speaker 2: It's just it's like a PhD is infinitely harder than
Speaker 2: my job.
Speaker 4: Like, how's your new research study going? You're what? I
Speaker 4: fell asleep?
Speaker 1: Ah?
Speaker 4: Fuck?
Speaker 2: I hell see, This is why I don't talk about it.
Speaker 2: I don't even blame you for falling asleep. Sometimes I
Speaker 2: fall asleep and it's my own shit. It actually is
Speaker 2: really interesting.
Speaker 4: I've got to say medical.
Speaker 1: Isn't it. Look at him try and fucking redeem himself now, Tiff.
Speaker 4: But if I could get away with a cheap shot,
Speaker 4: I always will. You know, I love you, keep going?
Speaker 4: But how much time? No, seriously, I really did want
Speaker 4: to know how much longer you've got to do? You
Speaker 4: don't hours? Minutes?
Speaker 2: Like okay, so we're recording this November one. I hope
Speaker 2: to hand in all of my stuff in about four months,
Speaker 2: like hand it or goddah. And then but in order
Speaker 2: for me to get my PHDW, I need to have
Speaker 2: have had one paper published at least.
Speaker 1: So even if I finish everything and submit everything.
Speaker 2: But even when you submit a paper, they don't go yet,
Speaker 2: well done and we'll publish it. It can take months
Speaker 2: for them to even look at it. In fact, it
Speaker 2: generally does, and then often the answer will be no,
Speaker 2: we're not publishing it, or the answer might be.
Speaker 1: Maybe, but you need to review this stuff.
Speaker 4: So annoying is that Japanese scientist who's been releasing like
Speaker 4: a thousand papers a year and publishing. Did you heard
Speaker 4: about that, didn't you? The guy who found who has
Speaker 4: found out to be using like chap GPT and right publishing.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean to get a paper published.
Speaker 2: It's I don't know that that story, but I know
Speaker 2: the process of getting a paper published by what's called
Speaker 2: a tier one journal, science journal. There's that that what thousand.
Speaker 1: Papers a year?
Speaker 2: It couldn't happen like it's it's knowing the process, it's
Speaker 2: it's I mean, that's three papers a day. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: like to write one good paper is months of work.
Speaker 2: So if he is doing a thousand a year, then
Speaker 2: they quite likes somebody who is a like a world
Speaker 2: renound researcher and scientist and somebody who's a leader in
Speaker 2: their field.
Speaker 1: They might have a couple of hundred papers published.
Speaker 4: Well, this guy published two hundred and nineteen scientific papers,
Speaker 4: and one hundred and eighty three have now been retracted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm really excited but also quite frustrated in some ways
Speaker 4: by the new Bluebird satellites. This sounds exciting because it
Speaker 4: means that potentially, so this Texas based company is unfurling
Speaker 4: the biggest satellite ever. Like it's massive. It's sixty five
Speaker 4: square meters, is how wild thing is. It's going to
Speaker 4: be one of the brightest objects in the night sky,
Speaker 4: which is a bit of a shame for that talism
Speaker 4: it's trying to take pictures of the night sky because
Speaker 4: all that shit's going to get in the way. So
Speaker 4: the good thing, though, is that there's a lot now
Speaker 4: a lot more low earth orbit satellites that are going
Speaker 4: to mean that we can use normal telephones, not satellite phones,
Speaker 4: normal phones to potentially send text messages, make emergency calls,
Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff. And as somebody who lives
Speaker 4: in a rural area driving through the country or have
Speaker 4: so many black spots and now three G being turned
Speaker 4: off right across Australia, there's going to be a lot
Speaker 4: more people who potentially may not have phone access. So
Speaker 4: if you break down then you could be potentially in
Speaker 4: trouble if it's on a far back road that doesn't
Speaker 4: have a lot of traffic. So it's great that there's
Speaker 4: now going to be a lot more of these satellites
Speaker 4: able to connect us using normal phones. So in the
Speaker 4: past the satellite phone, you know, I ridium satellite phone,
Speaker 4: which would cost a fortune, but now it looks like
Speaker 4: more of us will be able to get access using
Speaker 4: just everyday phones. And in fact, sorry I was going
Speaker 4: to say, is there a lot of areas in Australia
Speaker 4: that don't have.
Speaker 1: Coverage that like, I don't know.
Speaker 4: What I would have thought. These go on like minutes
Speaker 4: five minutes I drive down the highway towards Ballarat. In
Speaker 4: the first five minutes I lose phone coverage. Really, yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: for how long? I don't know, maybe another five minutes
Speaker 4: so potentially that's a few k's if I'm going at
Speaker 4: one hundred and ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at my small humble shack on the peninsula. And
Speaker 2: I mean that literally everyone, I'm not being it's got
Speaker 2: there's no internet, there's no and no, well there's internet,
Speaker 2: there's no phone service.
Speaker 1: I have to get out of the house.
Speaker 2: And walk up the top of the block, which is
Speaker 2: uphill to get one bar.
Speaker 1: Don't even start.
Speaker 2: Don't even start and back to Brian Cox laughing like
Speaker 2: a fucking four year old.
Speaker 4: No, that's right. It's great that you know. It doesn't
Speaker 4: take long for you to get one bar.
Speaker 2: Fu.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So starlink is the other one. So there's the
Speaker 4: other option at the moment for getting access. And this
Speaker 4: is kind of it. Can you do a lot of
Speaker 4: plane travel, like you fly around a lot?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 4: Space has now teamed up with Boeing and they did
Speaker 4: their first ever Boeing Triple seven flight where they had
Speaker 4: full data on the plane, so you could use your
Speaker 4: phone and have full data access. They're talking about making
Speaker 4: it free and this is no hard in London, so
Speaker 4: someone who but that would be good for productivity for
Speaker 4: streaming Netflix or whatever. It happens that you're doing at
Speaker 4: the time. But that's kind of good if you're flying
Speaker 4: around that you can get unlimited access.
Speaker 2: I wonder if that you would think that within a
Speaker 2: period of time that would be normal where all kind
Speaker 2: of you know, you'll have internet anywhere. This is an
Speaker 2: irrelevant question. Well, it's kind of in the ballpark. You
Speaker 2: know how when you get on a plane, you've got
Speaker 2: to turn your phone off, right because it could interfere
Speaker 2: with your electronics or something. Allegedly, what's meant to be
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this, but what's the
Speaker 2: alleged reason for that?
Speaker 4: I think I actually asked someone smart me about this,
Speaker 4: which means I could ask a lot of people, but
Speaker 4: I have someone about this. And it's not so much
Speaker 4: one phone being on. It's if a whole lot of
Speaker 4: phones were on, is my understanding. So if everybody had
Speaker 4: their phones on at the same time, that's where it
Speaker 4: potentially might cause problems. But I don't know that one
Speaker 4: single phone is going to make any difference at all.
Speaker 2: It seems weird though, that if that if that was
Speaker 2: the case, where that could potentially cause a catastrophic problem,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think you'd even be allowed to bring a
Speaker 2: phone on a plane.
Speaker 4: Exactly the other. It just occurred to me though. Maybe
Speaker 4: you know when you're flying or flying when you go
Speaker 4: anywhere with your phone, your phone tries to connect to
Speaker 4: a cell phone tower. And one of the problems that's
Speaker 4: happening in big cities, So there are potentially you could
Speaker 4: be in the center of Melbourne has total coverage, but
Speaker 4: you may not be able to make a phone call
Speaker 4: because the particular cell tower that you're linked to might
Speaker 4: have requests at the same time. So each micro cell tower,
Speaker 4: because in lots of big cities they have little micro
Speaker 4: cells and they may only have a capacity. We'll say,
Speaker 4: I'm just randomly saying one hundred phone connections at any
Speaker 4: given time, So if you happen to be one hundred
Speaker 4: and one, you might not be able to make a
Speaker 4: phone call. So if the technology, in terms of what's
Speaker 4: happening whilst you're flying in your phone's making signal requests
Speaker 4: constantly trying to link up to say satellites or ground
Speaker 4: stations or whatever it happens to be, maybe that's what
Speaker 4: the problem is too. I don't know, I'm theorizing.
Speaker 1: It could be. Now I've heard that you're getting rid
Speaker 1: of all your movie discs?
Speaker 4: What is so?
Speaker 2: Does that mean all your DVDs and Blu ray and
Speaker 2: what is that about? Why are you doing that?
Speaker 4: I have a whole wall full of I think at
Speaker 4: last count, I had one thousand movies I purchased over many, many,
Speaker 4: many many years. And the thing is the reality of
Speaker 4: it is, y I can walk.
Speaker 2: I like how you used air quotes when you said
Speaker 2: purchased and then you winked at us.
Speaker 4: What I didn't do anything this sort of sep ha.
Speaker 2: No no, or Patrick, hey, everyone, Patrick purchased them.
Speaker 4: I did buy them. In fact, I don't even want
Speaker 4: to think about how much money on them over the years.
Speaker 4: But the reality of it is that, if you you know,
Speaker 4: the other day, I wanted to watch a movie on
Speaker 4: a streaming service and I thought, oh, crap, I haven't
Speaker 4: got my Blu Ray connected. Because I've set up a
Speaker 4: new stereo upstairs and a new TV set up and
Speaker 4: speakers and everything. I thought, I've got no way to
Speaker 4: play Blu Rays and I've got a thousand of them
Speaker 4: sitting in a bookshelf. I thought, well, yeah, it's a
Speaker 4: bit of a pain, but there's some really really good
Speaker 4: tech out there. Now they're called nash drives effectively, really
Speaker 4: big hard drives that will also retain the same quality
Speaker 4: of the DVD or Blu Ray because one of the
Speaker 4: things I've always liked. I don't know if you ever
Speaker 4: do this, TIF if you ever watch a Blu Ray
Speaker 4: and then you look at the director's cut or you
Speaker 4: look at interviews and all the other you know, you
Speaker 4: don't do it.
Speaker 2: Any ever doesn't even know what Blu Ray is. It's
Speaker 2: twenty years younger than you.
Speaker 4: Okay, at Craigo, have you ever done that? Am I
Speaker 4: the only person that looks at the extra features on
Speaker 4: tvds and Blue Ray?
Speaker 1: Yes, you are the only person in Australia.
Speaker 2: And by the way, why.
Speaker 1: The fuck do you have a thousand Blu Ray videos movies?
Speaker 4: Because I bought a lot of this before streaming. You know,
Speaker 4: why did your voice just go up nine octaves? Because
Speaker 4: I like rewatching movies. I have favorite movies. I just
Speaker 4: happened to have a thousand. I don't know for each.
Speaker 2: One of those cost you twenty bucks. Dude, that's a lot.
Speaker 2: That's a big investments.
Speaker 4: Thirty five Yeah, nearly, No, not necessarily. I did go
Speaker 4: through a three D phase where I love watching three
Speaker 4: D movies, and I had a three D TV and
Speaker 4: I had my three D glasses. Unfortunately, I was probably
Speaker 4: the person on the planet, so that kind of went
Speaker 4: out the door.
Speaker 1: But no, you're not eyed one of those as well.
Speaker 1: I had a real data projection TV.
Speaker 4: That they were giant. They were enormous. It was it's
Speaker 4: turned on its side.
Speaker 2: There was a fucking hyunda with a screen on it.
Speaker 2: It was just stupid. It was the biggest thing ever.
Speaker 2: But when you're wearing those dumb talk about throwing myself
Speaker 2: under the bus. But when you're wearing those dumb, very
Speaker 2: ineffective three D glasses, you needed to sit in a
Speaker 2: certain spot otherwise it was like you're on acid.
Speaker 4: It was like, can I defend three D just for
Speaker 4: a second here? I know I'm nerding out massively.
Speaker 2: Can I just say that you and I went to
Speaker 2: a movie to watch three D What was that called again?
Speaker 4: That was the second Avatar film? And you held my
Speaker 4: hand for most of it. No, that was pretty cool.
Speaker 5: Come on, you got to admit you do well. You
Speaker 5: do have nice hands, and you say hand right cox
Speaker 5: the a smart scientist.
Speaker 4: Yes, oh dear, I believe I've totally lost track of
Speaker 4: what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: No, we saw avat three D three D, so you're
Speaker 2: talking about you love your love affair with three D.
Speaker 4: Now, what's really exciting about three D is and particularly
Speaker 4: I'm glad you raised that because Avatar James Cameron, the
Speaker 4: director of the first Avatar and Second Avatar, he was
Speaker 4: really passionate. He is really passionate about three DS, so
Speaker 4: he developed three D cameras. So the way we see
Speaker 4: stereoscopically is we have two eyes, so if you look
Speaker 4: at something, you're getting two different perspectives, and that's what
Speaker 4: generates in your brain the three D depth perception. Because
Speaker 4: if you walk around with an eye patch on, you're
Speaker 4: more likely to bump into shit because you don't get
Speaker 4: depth perception. You need to reach your glass and you
Speaker 4: miss it. You know, not quite that bad, but so
Speaker 4: the reality of it is you need two eyes to
Speaker 4: see in full three D depth perception. So if you're
Speaker 4: watching a movie and it's been shot with a three
Speaker 4: D camera, then it's giving you true three D depth
Speaker 4: perception because it's got two lenses. But the way the
Speaker 4: movie industry kind of cheapened the whole process when the
Speaker 4: whole three D revolution began was they simulated three D,
Speaker 4: so they took a two D picture of Craig and
Speaker 4: they extracted you from the background and gave a bit
Speaker 4: of a three D effect and not unlike the crappy
Speaker 4: background you've got right now, you know, because when you
Speaker 4: turn your head half your head disappears. You know, when
Speaker 4: you're using a zoom filter and it looks like crap,
Speaker 4: and you know, the background keeps shifting and your eyes
Speaker 4: disappear and your microphone isn't visible. That's because you're using
Speaker 4: technology to fake the background. What It's true. Everyone's been
Speaker 4: stunned into silence as the call dropped out. But he's
Speaker 4: just chilling on his head.
Speaker 3: I've never seen.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to let you fucking hang in that.
Speaker 2: And you reckon, you reckon. My review of my PhD
Speaker 2: was bad. Yes, so you're not a fan of my
Speaker 2: my what do you call this virtual background?
Speaker 1: You're not a fan of that?
Speaker 4: No, I just I don't know. I know you've forced
Speaker 4: Tiff to blur out her background.
Speaker 2: I forced Tiff. Tiff did that and said, what do
Speaker 2: you think I went?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 2: I forced Tiff. Yeah, I put a gun to a
Speaker 2: head and said, blur your background. What do you two
Speaker 2: talk about before I get on the call?
Speaker 4: Recorded? You could always go back and have a listen.
Speaker 3: Won't be good for his self esteem, probably pricks some
Speaker 3: really harsh stuff on.
Speaker 2: Well, hasn't really changed, has it?
Speaker 1: Just because I'm me doesn't mean I don't have feelings.
Speaker 1: You know you too? That kid, the fat kid that
Speaker 1: didn't get picked, he's still there.
Speaker 3: So you just need to That's what I'm trying to
Speaker 3: get your to get yourself an emotional support dog.
Speaker 2: I just need friends that give me a bit of
Speaker 2: emotional support.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the right people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need a Labrador, not you two fucking chiwah words. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Anyway, So this Revolution Player one is the big hard
Speaker 4: drive in the sky. It's not really in the sky.
Speaker 4: It sits on your shelf, but you can digitize all
Speaker 4: of your movies and put them on there, and it's massive.
Speaker 4: I think that I was looking at the review on
Speaker 4: this thing, and I'm not kind of pushing any particular
Speaker 4: brand or anything like that, but it's it's it's pretty
Speaker 4: cool because they can fit like thousands of movies onto
Speaker 4: just the one device, and you can just kind of
Speaker 4: flick a switch and off it goes. So I just thought,
Speaker 4: I don't know. If you're looking to buy yourself a
Speaker 4: present for Christmas, and you like rewatching movies, but do
Speaker 4: you rewatch movies, Tiff? You do you have kind of
Speaker 4: favorites that you rewatch. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just watched Dirty Dancy.
Speaker 1: Every time I want to watch a movie, wow wow.
Speaker 2: And I've watched the Back to the Future trilogy about
Speaker 2: collectively fifty times, the three of them. That's okay, Well,
Speaker 2: Blu Ray was only around for about ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Why do you have so many?
Speaker 4: Well because I may have rebought some movies to get
Speaker 4: higher quality out of it, you know, like The Lord
Speaker 4: of the Rings. I think I bought the DVD version
Speaker 4: and then the Blu ray came out with extra scenes
Speaker 4: and all that sort of stuff. So I then rebought
Speaker 4: a few movies, you know, sci fi films that need
Speaker 4: the big cinelar experience.
Speaker 1: I don't understand it all. Why you're single. I don't
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 4: Single. I have a dog, exactly.
Speaker 2: Exactly tell me about if you would tell me about
Speaker 2: Boeing's laser weapon five killer, what laser weapon that can
Speaker 2: take down heavy drones?
Speaker 4: Don't you reckon? That's just fully on, full on, because
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't like talking about warfare much, but
Speaker 4: a laser I feel like I need to do air
Speaker 4: quotes for that, But a laser that can take out
Speaker 4: multiple drones because the thing is that the drones and
Speaker 4: their larger payloads, the bigger the drone, the harder it
Speaker 4: is to take them out of the sky. So yeah,
Speaker 4: they're talking about a portable and that this is portable too,
Speaker 4: So we're not talking about plugging it into the power
Speaker 4: grid on your three phase. We're talking to a laser
Speaker 4: that could be carried around and it can potentially take
Speaker 4: out drones as well at rapid fire stuff as well.
Speaker 2: So that just made me think about the potential. I
Speaker 2: don't even want to say this, but fuck it, I'll
Speaker 2: say it. It's like with the ever expanding and evolving
Speaker 2: capacity of drones, you know, obviously they're being used in
Speaker 2: warfare already, right, Imagine if some nefarious person wanted to
Speaker 2: do something to a civilian aeroplane, Like, how do they
Speaker 2: control for that?
Speaker 1: We like the Civil Aviation Authority.
Speaker 2: And like that's I mean, that's a horrible thought, but
Speaker 2: people do horrible shit, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, the thing is you can't even import a
Speaker 4: green or blue laser into the country, it would be
Speaker 4: picked up by customs. So importing certain types of lasers
Speaker 4: you can't unless you have very valid reasons for what
Speaker 4: you'd use it for. And look, you know it's illegal
Speaker 4: to actually point a laser pointer into the sky. You know,
Speaker 4: that's really dumb to do. People do try to do
Speaker 4: that in point them at planes. So that's why there
Speaker 4: are restrictions on what you can import into the country
Speaker 4: unless you've got valid reasons for, say, manufacturing that sort
Speaker 4: of stuff.
Speaker 1: Didn't I just ask you about drones and then you
Speaker 1: just spoke about lasers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we were talking about lasers that shoot drones.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right.
Speaker 2: No, I was thinking, well, obviously there are there are
Speaker 2: there are drones equipped with missiles and you know, things
Speaker 2: that can blow shit up, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you could, I mean the larger drones. Well,
Speaker 4: in Australia we have restrictions on the purchasing and flying
Speaker 4: of drones. So if if you wanted to get a
Speaker 4: drone that had a payload capacity that could carry something,
Speaker 4: then there's pretty big restrictions. You have to have a
Speaker 4: license and be registered with KASSO, the Civil Aviation Safety Authority,
Speaker 4: so right own I fly, for example, is less than
Speaker 4: two kilos in waits I could have say I had
Speaker 4: a bit of fun. I went out the Geelong the
Speaker 4: other day to fly my drone for a client that
Speaker 4: does as best as removal near the old Ford factory,
Speaker 4: and the client sent out the invitation to me to
Speaker 4: go and meet him, and the location was sexy Land,
Speaker 4: and of course, me being the childish person that I was,
Speaker 4: there's a giant chimney stack right next to it, so
Speaker 4: my opening shot was panning up this giant chimney to
Speaker 4: reveal sexy Land in the background. Sorry, that was really childish,
Speaker 4: but it was fun.
Speaker 1: Well hang on, why were you meeting him at sexy Land.
Speaker 4: No, because the building was owned by the sexy Land
Speaker 4: Company and they were they'd vacated so that the Asbestus
Speaker 4: roofing could be taken off and repurposed. A lot of
Speaker 4: those buildings along the dock area there in North Geelong
Speaker 4: have been amazingly changed. They had old mills and things,
Speaker 4: and now they've got vintage stores and cafes. I was
Speaker 4: super impressed. If you're looking for a day trip, go
Speaker 4: to Geelong and check out all these amazing old buildings
Speaker 4: that have been repurposed for interesting shopping and in sexy
Speaker 4: l Indevidently Geelong's has evolved.
Speaker 1: A lot in the last decade or so. It's a
Speaker 1: bit of a metropolis now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really nice place. I lived there for a while.
Speaker 4: When I first moved out of home, I went on,
Speaker 4: did you for those people who don't know Geelong? It's
Speaker 4: the second largest city in Victoria, following Melbourne. Pretty big plane. Yeah,
Speaker 4: well we have.
Speaker 2: We have listeners from all over the world who are gone,
Speaker 2: where the fuck is Geelong?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well they probably know where Melbourne is. So
Speaker 4: it's a fair bed that an hour away from Melbourne
Speaker 4: along down the road. Yeah, yes, just down the road.
Speaker 4: And I've got cousins in Europe who think that Australia
Speaker 4: is too far to come to, but ask me every
Speaker 4: time when I'm going to be there next, because it's
Speaker 4: further for them to come here than it is for
Speaker 4: me to go there. As Astragans, we're so used to
Speaker 4: traveling for a shit ton of time, aren't we. You know,
Speaker 4: I when you're on a plane and you're flying to
Speaker 4: Europe or something and you think, oh man, we've been
Speaker 4: going for so long, I wonder how far we've gone
Speaker 4: and you haven't even crossed the country yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: but but no, it's it's kind of look. I I
Speaker 4: think that all these new innovations with travel and hopeful,
Speaker 4: I mean, my big dream is that hypersonic travel will
Speaker 4: be happening soon. To buy hypersonic travel so you can
Speaker 4: get to like, you know, Melbourne to New York and
Speaker 4: I don't know, three or four hours, wouldn't they be?
Speaker 1: How far away?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's another one hypersonic there was.
Speaker 2: I was reading something the other day about another.
Speaker 1: What's above hypersonic?
Speaker 2: Is it where they get like into the out of
Speaker 2: the stratosphere?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess so they go kind of up,
Speaker 4: let the earth rotate underneath them and then yeah, I
Speaker 4: think it.
Speaker 2: Was like one hour from New York to London or
Speaker 2: something crazy that they're talking about testing flights next year.
Speaker 1: But yeah, supersonic would be what would that?
Speaker 2: What do you reckon that's going to reduce Melbourne to
Speaker 2: LA because Melbourne to LA now is like fourteen hours, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, supersonic is when you're just over the speed
Speaker 4: of sound. That was the like concord flu Supersonic hypothes
Speaker 4: next level up right, Yeah, what.
Speaker 2: A pity, that's that concord fucking hit the hit the
Speaker 2: wall metaphorically.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was. I saw that, and I didn't see
Speaker 4: it actually happened, but I was working in news and
Speaker 4: saw all the because it was it was video. You know,
Speaker 4: you saw it break apart. It was pretty pretty full long,
Speaker 4: wasn't it. Did you do you remember that? Craigo?
Speaker 2: I remember, and I remember that because I wanted to
Speaker 2: fly in the concord like that was one of the
Speaker 2: things that I wanted to do when I could afford it,
Speaker 2: and then not anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, could do you imagine?
Speaker 2: I mean, without boring everyone, but imagine this like something
Speaker 2: that's flying supersonically. Imagine how well engineered and built that
Speaker 2: thing needs to be, and imagine the immense pressure and
Speaker 2: stress on everything.
Speaker 4: Well that I always found it fascinating that the pilots
Speaker 4: couldn't see out the front of the plane when it
Speaker 4: was flying supersonic, So what.
Speaker 1: Were they just looking at screens and flying by.
Speaker 4: The nose used to come up, remember when it was parked,
Speaker 4: and those would drop down for landing, and then it
Speaker 4: would come up so that it was more streamlined. That
Speaker 4: was so cool.
Speaker 2: That's like me seeded versus running. My nose goes up
Speaker 2: when I start running.
Speaker 4: You knows, Okay, Brian, all right, keep going.
Speaker 2: Tell us about how looking at our dog can connect
Speaker 2: our brain with theirs, because this feels like a you
Speaker 2: and Tiff subject.
Speaker 4: It kind of is, I suppose, so when we have
Speaker 4: a conversation, So if you and I have a conversation,
Speaker 4: you start to visualize. So I talked about sexy land
Speaker 4: and a giant chimney, and that connects our brains. And
Speaker 4: what science has realized and you probably know a little
Speaker 4: bit about this, our brains become in sync because there
Speaker 4: are different processing parts of our brains, say for linguistics, thought, concept, imagination.
Speaker 4: So we can get into sync with human beings. And
Speaker 4: it was thought that we couldn't do this with animals.
Speaker 4: Now it's believed we can with dogs. And when we
Speaker 4: talked to a dog and we look them in the eye,
Speaker 4: they've used magnetic imaging and so they've scanned the brain
Speaker 4: of a human scanned the brain of a dog, and
Speaker 4: they realize that we can connect on a level where
Speaker 4: our brains can be firing in a similar way. And
Speaker 4: pet owners that are in sync literally with their dogs
Speaker 4: can synchronize their brain activity at the same time. And
Speaker 4: I thought that was really interesting.
Speaker 1: I have so many questions about that. How does that,
Speaker 1: what's the what's the consequence of that?
Speaker 2: Like, what do we see when these too, this human
Speaker 2: and canine brain are in sync.
Speaker 1: What happens?
Speaker 4: Well, I guess it brings the connection between the human
Speaker 4: and the dog on a deeper level. I mean, this
Speaker 4: was researched in China, so it's called neural coupling. Okay,
Speaker 4: So what's exciting about this is it's never been observed
Speaker 4: within spec different species before. So the brain activity aligns
Speaker 4: during this interaction. Because for us we talk it through.
Speaker 4: We can have so many different ways to communicate, but
Speaker 4: with dogs, it's that eye contact and then trying to synchronize.
Speaker 4: So I mean in terms of it's good for you know,
Speaker 4: an encounter or a way that we interact with our
Speaker 4: pets as well, it takes it to a deeper level
Speaker 4: of connectedness. And if look, if if you've really loved
Speaker 4: a dog, or you kind of like walking a dog,
Speaker 4: and you like padding dogs and connecting with an animal
Speaker 4: because they do value add our lives so much. And
Speaker 4: I guess only people who've had dog, dogs or a
Speaker 4: cat can really conceptionalize what that means and implications for
Speaker 4: people as they get older and this, you know, they
Speaker 4: need company that've lost a partner. I think the notion
Speaker 4: that we can connect on that level scientifically is kind
Speaker 4: of fun. It's I mean, what the implications are. I
Speaker 4: mean for training, it's important. So if you're cleaning your dog,
Speaker 4: it may assist in you being able to kind of
Speaker 4: get on the same sink and level with the dog
Speaker 4: while you're doing that training. So it's kind of getting
Speaker 4: their focus on a more higher level and then being
Speaker 4: able to use that to be able to further train
Speaker 4: the dog. So what are the real implications. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I have a nice story for you. Sorry, Tiff, then
Speaker 2: you jump in. I have a nice story for you
Speaker 2: that you both love. So yesterday, because my algorithm is
Speaker 2: all thanks to Tiff and a few other people. My
Speaker 2: algorithms fucking dogs and or motorbikes and or bodybuilders and
Speaker 2: or science.
Speaker 1: It's not much else.
Speaker 2: So yesterday this video came up and it was this
Speaker 2: lady who she had this German shepherd that was like
Speaker 2: four or five years old.
Speaker 1: That was her puppy.
Speaker 2: And all, and it just all of a sudden, the
Speaker 2: dog started getting She could tell the dog was distressed,
Speaker 2: and the dog would come up and just push her
Speaker 2: nose between the ladies breasts, so just put her and
Speaker 2: she was she would whenever she would lie down, the
Speaker 2: dog would go up and just put her head on
Speaker 2: the chest and like push her. And she knew that
Speaker 2: something was wrong and she ignored it. And after about
Speaker 2: a week of this, she so she thought there was
Speaker 2: something wrong with the vet. Took the dog to the vet.
Speaker 2: Everything's fine, and then she went, maybe she's trying to
Speaker 2: tell me something. So she went, and you know what
Speaker 2: I'm going to say. So she went to the doctor
Speaker 2: and she had stage three lung cancer. And the dog
Speaker 2: could smell the cancer, and the dog knew something was wrong.
Speaker 2: And she got treated and is okay now. But if
Speaker 2: not for the dog, because she had no symptoms, she
Speaker 2: was asymptomatic. Isn't like, I don't know how the fuck works,
Speaker 2: But how how fucking amazing is that not only could
Speaker 2: the dog smell the cancer, but she knew the dog
Speaker 2: knew that it was bad like the dog. The dog
Speaker 2: was concerned and anxious. It wasn't just like ah, there's
Speaker 2: another smell. It's like, no, this is not a good smell.
Speaker 2: And as a result of the dog doing that, it
Speaker 2: literally saved her mum's life, or her owner's life, whatever you.
Speaker 1: Want to call it. So I thought that was fucking gorgeous.
Speaker 4: It's amazing. You sent me a video clip this week
Speaker 4: and I started crying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you, I cried.
Speaker 4: Why would you do that? My colleague looks a bit
Speaker 4: like Hagrid. He's like six foot four, big and hairy.
Speaker 1: And here a shout out to Hagrid.
Speaker 4: Yeah it, And here am I sniffling at my computer
Speaker 4: because you sent me a whole lot of dog clips
Speaker 4: of really beautiful dog omen.
Speaker 1: Oh that guy that I said, did I send that
Speaker 1: to you? Tiff? There's that guy.
Speaker 2: He's a is a vet, and he's just a beautiful man.
Speaker 2: He's just a beautiful human and he's like, I mean, like,
Speaker 2: I think some people be come vets because it's a
Speaker 2: good career and they're doing a good thing. And I
Speaker 2: would assume most vets somewhere between like and love animals,
Speaker 2: but some people that's like, no, animals are their purpose
Speaker 2: and it's like they just happen to become a vet
Speaker 2: because they want to look after animals when they're at
Speaker 2: the most vulnerable. And that guy, he's like the Mother
Speaker 2: Teresa or the bloody Dellai Lama of animals.
Speaker 1: He's a great guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty good, you know. Getting back to
Speaker 4: this story. I was just thinking that one of the
Speaker 4: things that's been proven with animals and human behavior is
Speaker 4: people on the autism spectrum. So people are able to
Speaker 4: interact on a level that they may not necessarily be
Speaker 4: able to interact with humans, but they can get a
Speaker 4: real sense of connectedness and comfort from an animal. And
Speaker 4: that's the symbiosis. I mean, it's been what twenty thousand
Speaker 4: years or something. I don't know how long we've had
Speaker 4: domesticated dogs, but certainly they've been acting opanions and guardians
Speaker 4: and emotional support for such a long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And isn't it amazing when you think that all
Speaker 2: dogs came from wolves and they look at you look
Speaker 2: at them now.
Speaker 1: You look at the fucking the massive cross section of
Speaker 1: fluffy white things just prancing down the Hampton Street like
Speaker 1: little fucking show ponies. And then and then.
Speaker 2: Saint Bernards and Rottwiler's And if I feel I cut
Speaker 2: you off before. Were you going to say something when
Speaker 2: I started telling my story about the vet when we.
Speaker 3: Were talking about the eye contact with the dogs. We
Speaker 3: did a practice of that on the Himalayas. I don't
Speaker 3: know if I told you Patrick where we did. I
Speaker 3: think that they called it transfiguration, if that's right. It
Speaker 3: was just five minutes sitting face to face with someone.
Speaker 3: We did it verse thirty five minutes in total, because
Speaker 3: there were seven of us just sitting and just staring
Speaker 3: into the eyes of the other person, and it was
Speaker 3: really really energetically profound, and you know, I don't know
Speaker 3: what's happening, but you connect and you go through all
Speaker 3: these different energy shifts and people ended up in tears
Speaker 3: and it was amazing.
Speaker 2: Did you find that easy to like looking at anything
Speaker 2: for thirty five minutes and focusing and being present what
Speaker 2: seemed to be not an easy task or do you
Speaker 2: kind of lose yourself in it?
Speaker 3: You lose It was very confronting to start with that.
Speaker 3: I've done the practice once before at another workshop, but
Speaker 3: it's I think the challenging part is the allowing yourself
Speaker 3: to be seen, and we did after the first couple
Speaker 3: we did facilitated ones where person A would energetically be
Speaker 3: the one holding space or holding the other person and
Speaker 3: the other person being held, and that was really challenging,
Speaker 3: especially when you look at male female dynamics and some
Speaker 3: just people's different experience with those different moments.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Being seen and the dropping of your guard and the
Speaker 3: stuff that we knew about the other person because of
Speaker 3: the conversations we've had before. So there's a lot in that.
Speaker 2: Wow, that would take courage, I think, I think for
Speaker 2: a lot of people, maybe me included. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: I have never done that. I would think that would
Speaker 2: be that's a brave thing to do. Imagine if you're
Speaker 2: sit and you look at someone and you just see
Speaker 2: fucking evil, You're like, I'm out, Well.
Speaker 4: You see it.
Speaker 1: You see a lot.
Speaker 3: And I remember at the first workshop I ever did at,
Speaker 3: which was MICHAELA. Bome. She was a guest I'd had
Speaker 3: on the show and she does embodiment and the whole
Speaker 3: range of stuff. But there were parts to that exercise
Speaker 3: where we would have to report to the other person
Speaker 3: with boundaries, with instructions about what we saw and so
Speaker 3: you and it was interesting what people complete strangers could
Speaker 3: feel or see in you. Amazing?
Speaker 1: How did you go with that?
Speaker 2: That would to me that that's interesting that you because
Speaker 2: you know, you've been quite protective and quite you know,
Speaker 2: like I always say that T shirt that says give
Speaker 2: me a hug and the cap that says fuck off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how how was that for you?
Speaker 3: Well, I could feel the embodiment of the practice of
Speaker 3: trust to let go and just go okay, I'm going
Speaker 3: to let you see me and I'm going to be
Speaker 3: okay with that, and I'll let you see whatever you
Speaker 3: see and not control it. It's you go really deep
Speaker 3: within yourself in a way that I don't think I
Speaker 3: would normally have had access to. So yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was confronting and what's the real.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that this is curiosity, not judgment. What's
Speaker 2: the reason, Like, what's what's the what's the consequence or
Speaker 2: potential benefit or outcome?
Speaker 3: I think both in site and connection right for that,
Speaker 3: like insight and connection and letting guards down. Like I said,
Speaker 3: when we did the practice this last time, we had
Speaker 3: the night before shared the deepest parts of our stories
Speaker 3: with the group, so we knew a lot as well.
Speaker 3: So it's then, yeah, I don't know for me, it
Speaker 3: was an act of trust and connection and letting go
Speaker 3: and being and not controlling and observing what comes up
Speaker 3: and accepting it.
Speaker 2: It's like a level of It's like a level of
Speaker 2: intimacy with a stranger, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Oh big time.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing I probably didn't tell you
Speaker 3: after the trip. The morning after we'd shared our stories
Speaker 3: and then we'd come down and did mindful movements so
Speaker 3: similar to pilates or yoga, Patrick, your style of movement true,
Speaker 3: and towards the end of that, and this has happened
Speaker 3: twice to me before in yoga practices after a significant event.
Speaker 3: But we got towards the end and we were just
Speaker 3: like moving our spine or whatever, and out of absolutely nowhere.
Speaker 3: I got so overwhelmed with emotion that I just ended
Speaker 3: up lying there sobbing. And then after we left the class,
Speaker 3: everyone went for breakfast and I just went back to
Speaker 3: my room for a moment, had.
Speaker 1: A big cry.
Speaker 3: And then when I often had breakfast, but it was
Speaker 3: just this like, oh, there wasn't a thought associated with that.
Speaker 3: There's emotion in my body and I've let it come
Speaker 3: up and I don't know what it is, but cool.
Speaker 4: That's so profound.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is, isn't it? Well? Emotion.
Speaker 2: Emotion lives in your body, and sometimes your body knows
Speaker 2: what it needs more than you occupier.
Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 3: Shift your You can move parts of your body and
Speaker 3: release it and it just comes up and there's actually
Speaker 3: no link to the thoughts in your mind. There's no
Speaker 3: conscious thought. I sought associated to it, Yes.
Speaker 4: Which in our bodies so much. And one of the
Speaker 4: little exercises I like to do when we do our
Speaker 4: beginning warm ups for our Tai Chiese session is just
Speaker 4: to do that little exercise of breathing in for four seconds,
Speaker 4: holding for four then letting go for four and I
Speaker 4: do that twice that I go six seconds, then eight seconds,
Speaker 4: and I can look at my pulse rate because I've
Speaker 4: got my phone, my watch, you know, tracking my heart rate,
Speaker 4: and I can see it drop. You know that slow breathing,
Speaker 4: focusing just on your breathing process can actually slow your
Speaker 4: heart rate right down. And I've observed maybe a five
Speaker 4: point drop. Now that seems like a lot to me.
Speaker 4: Crago five points for your heart rate to drop down
Speaker 4: and be in a state of relaxation.
Speaker 1: There's lots of research.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of box breathing around, activating your parasympathetic
Speaker 2: nervous system without trying to sound like a geek, which
Speaker 2: is you know, the calm the farm. Yeah, I know
Speaker 2: I have white code hypoten you know what.
Speaker 4: That is, right?
Speaker 2: I haven't so yeah, and I'm somewhat better now.
Speaker 1: But my blood pressure would be fine.
Speaker 2: And this is embarrassing because it's a fear response and
Speaker 2: such a big fucking baby. And I'd go in and
Speaker 2: my blood pressure would be two million over a million.
Speaker 5: And they'd go, fucking hell, call the cops quick, you did, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then I'd go, hang on, just give me a moment,
Speaker 2: and I just sort of and then it would be normal.
Speaker 1: They're like what. I go, Yeah, I'm a big baby.
Speaker 4: Yeah, go to the GP. And as soon as they
Speaker 4: put the cuff on me, they'll start the process. And
Speaker 4: halfway through, I think, oh, I'm holding my breath. Yes, yes,
Speaker 4: what the hell? I'm a rational person and yet that
Speaker 4: is so irrational to see yourself doing that. There was
Speaker 4: a study that I read, maybe it's a couple of
Speaker 4: years ago, and they talked about the fight or flight
Speaker 4: mechanism that we have, so when we get in to
Speaker 4: a tense situation, may be fearful, our breathing becomes more rapid.
Speaker 4: We start to breathe quickly. It's shallow breathing as well.
Speaker 4: There's none of that real depth of breathing. It's that,
Speaker 4: you know, that real panic kind of breathing. And what
Speaker 4: they did was they observed people watching horror films and
Speaker 4: they analyzed what their brain. They took their blood pressure
Speaker 4: and heart rate and all that sort of stuff, and
Speaker 4: what they got people to do was at the scariest
Speaker 4: parts of the movies, they got them to slow down
Speaker 4: their breathing. And what the research has found was that
Speaker 4: what your lungs are doing can overwrite your brains fight
Speaker 4: or flight. So the physiological slow breathing stopped the fear
Speaker 4: and stopped the fight or flight. So, despite what was
Speaker 4: on screen. So the next time you go to a
Speaker 4: horror film, not that I watch them personally, but slow,
Speaker 4: you're breathing down and you're less likely to be scared. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that you know.
Speaker 1: I've been talking about this a little bit lately.
Speaker 2: Around I started watching this series that somebody recommended to
Speaker 2: me called The Fall FA Double L The Fall Right,
Speaker 2: and it's about essentially about this mass murderer, this dark, twisted,
Speaker 2: sick fuck. I watched like two episodes and I realized
Speaker 2: when I was watching it it made me feel almost sick,
Speaker 2: and I am somewhat anxious, and I'm like, why am
Speaker 2: I watching this? This is so bad? But a bunch
Speaker 2: of people would reckon. And I'm not saying people shouldn't
Speaker 2: watch it. I'm just saying for me, I don't know that.
Speaker 2: Like I have this thing where I watch things and
Speaker 2: it's like I almost become intertwined with that thing for
Speaker 2: an hour or whatever. And I think that just just
Speaker 2: the way that we you know, we're so careful about
Speaker 2: what we put in our body in terms of food
Speaker 2: and drugs and booze and water, and we've got to
Speaker 2: be careful what we put in our mind because that
Speaker 2: shit has an impact.
Speaker 4: I totally. I find there's a new movie that's just
Speaker 4: come out. I'm not I don't even know what the
Speaker 4: name is, and I probably wouldn't mention it if I did,
Speaker 4: but they're saying it's so horrific that people who are
Speaker 4: going to it are throwing up, why the hell would
Speaker 4: you want to subject yourself to that? You know, this
Speaker 4: is the person who likes to play, you know, meditative
Speaker 4: music and stuff, and I kind of I've even drifted
Speaker 4: away from conventional TV and I've curated my YouTube channel
Speaker 4: to watch stuff that makes me feel positive and elated
Speaker 4: and interesting. So when you go to my channel, there's
Speaker 4: lots of short movies. I love watching really beautifully produced stuff.
Speaker 4: There's a really great channel called Dust, and there's amazing
Speaker 4: sci fi and you know producers out there, people making
Speaker 4: amazingly creative you know Cinema that's you know, three five,
Speaker 4: ten twenty minute movies that you can watch for free
Speaker 4: just by subscribing. YouTube's got so much great stuff on it,
Speaker 4: and I guess the choice to watch something moving or
Speaker 4: up lifting or a person who's a great passionate vet
Speaker 4: with dogs that he loves like you sent me the
Speaker 4: other day. You know, Yeah, it's a good cry. It's
Speaker 4: an affirmation of the fact that, you know, I came
Speaker 4: out of that Craygo thinking I love my dog so much.
Speaker 4: I think I talk about Fritz every episode, don't I.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a show. There's a show on the ABC.
Speaker 2: I think it is. I've watched it two weeks in
Speaker 2: a row. Accidentally. I got in bed last night, I
Speaker 2: just put on the telly and it so happened. So
Speaker 2: last night was Thursday night. It's called Long Lost Family.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And these people that were like the parents and the
Speaker 2: babies went different for what.
Speaker 1: A range of reasons.
Speaker 2: And then ah, I'm just snot and tears and emotions
Speaker 2: and tissues. Shit house, I'm like watching I watched it
Speaker 2: last night. It's it's I mean for me, but there's
Speaker 2: lots of crying. But to me it feels like because
Speaker 2: it's like happy tears. Yeah, but it is funny, isn't it.
Speaker 2: It's like crying can be like good or bad depending
Speaker 2: on the reason for the tears, I think.
Speaker 4: And that comes straight back to TIFF's story. You know
Speaker 4: that you didn't even know what it was, but it
Speaker 4: was that letting go that physiological response and crying is good.
Speaker 4: You know in Western certainly in Australia, blokes don't cry.
Speaker 4: I mean, how dumb is that?
Speaker 1: Well that's that's well, you and I cry, but we're
Speaker 1: not really our for male So let's be honest, Patrick,
Speaker 1: where can people find you and follow you and you know,
Speaker 1: just reach.
Speaker 4: Out, have a chat, a cuddle. The hugs cyber cuddle
Speaker 4: website that they can come over hugs. You should know
Speaker 4: that I'll give you a hug. Websites now dot do au.
Speaker 4: I do give good hugs and I've got to you
Speaker 4: can you can actually do some TIChE with me as
Speaker 4: well if you go to Taychi at home dot com
Speaker 4: dot au and you can see Fritz doing ty with
Speaker 4: me as well. Kind of by the way, just connect
Speaker 4: give us right mate.
Speaker 1: And if what if people want to give you a hug?
Speaker 1: Where where's that available?
Speaker 3: At hugsaras dot com, dot are you dot com, tifcook dot.
Speaker 2: Com, forward slash tifcook dot com. We'll say goodbye affair.
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure about that episode. I feel like
Speaker 2: I was the I was the weak link in that.
Speaker 2: So everyone, I apologize retrospectively for what you just heard
Speaker 4: Me too,