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Speaker 2: It's Kraigathew Harp, Tiffany and Cookpatrick, James Bonello, the U Project.

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Speaker 1: Every two weeks the three of us get together.

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Speaker 2: We don't really, let's be honest, we don't get a

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Speaker 2: lot done. I don't know what value this is to

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Speaker 2: the world, but for some strange reasons, some of you

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Speaker 2: like it. Some of you fucking love this episode. I

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Speaker 2: do not know why, what the fuck is wrong with you?

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Speaker 2: But anyway, here we are. We'll start with the one

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Speaker 2: at the bottom of my screen, Tiffany Cook, the giggling,

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Speaker 2: fucking boxer pugilist, Hi.

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Speaker 3: Cook, bottom of your screen, and the top of your

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Speaker 3: Christmas list?

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Speaker 1: Oh right, really not really, no, no.

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Speaker 3: Not the present for you? The presents are you going

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Speaker 3: to buy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not Yeah, I'm not that great at Christmas.

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Speaker 2: When there's only you and Ron and Mary and they're

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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty two and one hundred and forty three, respectively,

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Speaker 2: Christmas is not a big extravaganza, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, true, true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And thanks for the nine hundred messages you sent

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Speaker 2: me last night night.

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Speaker 1: Patrick, She's trying to Hi. Patrick.

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Speaker 4: My takeaway from all that is that I'm looking to

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Speaker 4: get Christmas gift from you.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'll do, though, I'll give you

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Speaker 2: a cuddle. I promise you I will come up this this.

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Speaker 2: I promise you on air that I will come up

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Speaker 2: and see your house and hang out with you.

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Speaker 1: And that's you and your knew everything.

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Speaker 2: So I yeah, Tip sent me some pictures of puppies

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Speaker 2: last night that apparently I need to get one of.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm like, you know, one or two. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're cute.

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Speaker 2: And then and then I stupidly asked how much are they?

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Speaker 2: And then that was it. That was like, oh, he's

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Speaker 4: Patrick. That's what though.

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Speaker 3: I just told him this this morning. They were born

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Speaker 3: I don't know what is.

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Speaker 1: Is that a sign from the puppy god?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the puppy gods have spoken loud and clear.

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Speaker 4: Love knows no boundaries with a dog.

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Speaker 1: That is true. That is true. Anyway, Good morning, Patrick,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm great. I know that you really want to get

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Speaker 4: straight into the topics because we you know you were

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Speaker 4: a little bit critical at the start, saying we talk shit.

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Speaker 4: But because I want to say hello to a friend

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Speaker 4: of mine, Kim and her dog Walter, I just thought

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Speaker 4: I'll give a shout out because it's funny. We meet

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Speaker 4: at the park walking our dogs and I go to

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Speaker 4: tell her my latest news and she said, I've already

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Speaker 4: heard it. She has, I know, since the podcast. So

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Speaker 4: it's like, I feel like I have no conversation topics

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Speaker 2: That's the beauty of, you know, having a public forum.

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Speaker 2: What kind of dog is Walter?

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Speaker 4: Oh? I think he's a whippet. Yeah, you would, La, Tiff,

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Speaker 4: You would absolutely love to have a doggie date with

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Speaker 4: Kim and Walter because Walter is the fastest dog, and

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Speaker 4: obviously you know what that's all about. It's amazing. Zoomies

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Speaker 4: Hey, my day deserved. He's got a beard in.

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Speaker 2: Your Dog's like the philosopher of the canine world. All

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Speaker 2: he needs is a fucking pipe and a comfy chair.

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Speaker 2: That little motherfucker could run seminars.

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Speaker 4: You know, he is so treat driven. I swear he

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Speaker 4: would recite poetry for a treat?

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Speaker 1: Really he probably would.

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Speaker 4: He jumps through, hoops, literally rolls over, does all the

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Speaker 1: I know what you roll over for.

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Speaker 2: But that's another bloody thing that's not well.

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Speaker 1: Patrick, tell us about it's tiff.

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Speaker 2: Please take that out tape for God's sake, Ah fuck it.

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Speaker 1: Leave it in.

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Speaker 2: Patrick, tell us about wherever you want to go. I'm

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Speaker 2: not even going to direct you today. So if you've

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Speaker 2: never heard this show, folks, apologies, apologies. This is the

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Speaker 2: we come under the banner of tech chat, and sometimes

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Speaker 4: Oh man, yeah, I imagine. Look, digital cameras have a

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Speaker 4: it's it's pretty good. But wait for this. Imagine if

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Speaker 4: take about one thousand photos every night over ten years.

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Speaker 4: This is just a short term project. It's just so

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Speaker 2: But if Brian Cox is listening, he'll be He'll be

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Speaker 4: I saw him.

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Speaker 2: I needed to him to interpret a little bit me

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Speaker 2: The inner cosmos, the inner world. Wow, that's true. That

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Speaker 1: The inner cosmos.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, stood, he going, how's all that research going? Are

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I am, I am, I am, I am.

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Speaker 2: I don't sound I'm not excited, but I'm excited, but

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Speaker 3: So last night I said an answer or a positive affirmation.

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Speaker 2: a systematic literature review looking at meta accuracy and metaperception.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to bore you anymore, but.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's like a PhD is infinitely harder than

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Speaker 4: Like, how's your new research study going? You're what? I

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Speaker 4: fell asleep?

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Speaker 1: Ah?

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Speaker 4: Fuck?

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Speaker 2: I hell see, This is why I don't talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it. Look at him try and fucking redeem himself now, Tiff.

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Speaker 4: But if I could get away with a cheap shot,

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Speaker 4: I always will. You know, I love you, keep going?

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Speaker 4: But how much time? No, seriously, I really did want

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Speaker 2: Like okay, so we're recording this November one. I hope

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean to get a paper published.

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Speaker 1: They might have a couple of hundred papers published.

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Speaker 4: Well, this guy published two hundred and nineteen scientific papers,

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Speaker 4: and one hundred and eighty three have now been retracted.

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Speaker 4: I'm really excited but also quite frustrated in some ways

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Speaker 1: It could be. Now I've heard that you're getting rid

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Speaker 4: I have a whole wall full of I think at

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Speaker 2: Any ever doesn't even know what Blu Ray is. It's

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Speaker 4: Okay, at Craigo, have you ever done that? Am I

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Speaker 1: The fuck do you have a thousand Blu Ray videos movies?

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Speaker 4: Because I bought a lot of this before streaming. You know,

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Speaker 4: why did your voice just go up nine octaves? Because

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Speaker 4: I like rewatching movies. I have favorite movies. I just

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Speaker 2: One of those cost you twenty bucks. Dude, that's a lot.

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Speaker 2: That's a big investments.

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Speaker 4: Thirty five Yeah, nearly, No, not necessarily. I did go

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Speaker 1: But no, you're not eyed one of those as well.

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Speaker 4: That they were giant. They were enormous. It was it's

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Speaker 2: There was a fucking hyunda with a screen on it.

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Speaker 2: It was just stupid. It was the biggest thing ever.

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Speaker 2: But when you're wearing those dumb talk about throwing myself

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Speaker 4: It was like, can I defend three D just for

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Speaker 2: Can I just say that you and I went to

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Speaker 4: That was the second Avatar film? And you held my

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Speaker 5: Come on, you got to admit you do well. You

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Speaker 4: Yes, oh dear, I believe I've totally lost track of

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Speaker 3: I've never seen.

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to let you fucking hang in that.

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Speaker 2: And you reckon, you reckon. My review of my PhD

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Speaker 4: No, I just I don't know. I know you've forced

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Speaker 2: I forced Tiff. Tiff did that and said, what do

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 2: I forced Tiff. Yeah, I put a gun to a

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Speaker 4: Recorded? You could always go back and have a listen.

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Speaker 3: Won't be good for his self esteem, probably pricks some

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Speaker 2: Well, hasn't really changed, has it?

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Speaker 1: Just because I'm me doesn't mean I don't have feelings.

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Speaker 1: You know you too? That kid, the fat kid that

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Speaker 3: So you just need to That's what I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: I just need friends that give me a bit of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the right people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I need a Labrador, not you two fucking chiwah words. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, So this Revolution Player one is the big hard

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00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 4: drive in the sky. It's not really in the sky.

445
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 4: It sits on your shelf, but you can digitize all

446
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 4: of your movies and put them on there, and it's massive.

447
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 4: I think that I was looking at the review on

448
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 4: this thing, and I'm not kind of pushing any particular

449
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 4: brand or anything like that, but it's it's it's pretty

450
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 4: cool because they can fit like thousands of movies onto

451
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 4: just the one device, and you can just kind of

452
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 4: flick a switch and off it goes. So I just thought,

453
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Speaker 4: I don't know. If you're looking to buy yourself a

454
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Speaker 4: present for Christmas, and you like rewatching movies, but do

455
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 4: you rewatch movies, Tiff? You do you have kind of

456
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 4: favorites that you rewatch. Yeah.

457
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Speaker 3: I just watched Dirty Dancy.

458
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Speaker 1: Every time I want to watch a movie, wow wow.

459
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Speaker 2: And I've watched the Back to the Future trilogy about

460
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: collectively fifty times, the three of them. That's okay, Well,

461
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: Blu Ray was only around for about ten minutes.

462
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Speaker 1: Why do you have so many?

463
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Speaker 4: Well because I may have rebought some movies to get

464
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Speaker 4: higher quality out of it, you know, like The Lord

465
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 4: of the Rings. I think I bought the DVD version

466
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 4: and then the Blu ray came out with extra scenes

467
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 4: and all that sort of stuff. So I then rebought

468
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Speaker 4: a few movies, you know, sci fi films that need

469
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Speaker 4: the big cinelar experience.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand it all. Why you're single. I don't

471
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Speaker 1: get it.

472
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Speaker 4: Single. I have a dog, exactly.

473
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Speaker 2: Exactly tell me about if you would tell me about

474
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Speaker 2: Boeing's laser weapon five killer, what laser weapon that can

475
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Speaker 2: take down heavy drones?

476
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Speaker 4: Don't you reckon? That's just fully on, full on, because

477
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't like talking about warfare much, but

478
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Speaker 4: a laser I feel like I need to do air

479
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 4: quotes for that, But a laser that can take out

480
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Speaker 4: multiple drones because the thing is that the drones and

481
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 4: their larger payloads, the bigger the drone, the harder it

482
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Speaker 4: is to take them out of the sky. So yeah,

483
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 4: they're talking about a portable and that this is portable too,

484
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 4: So we're not talking about plugging it into the power

485
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 4: grid on your three phase. We're talking to a laser

486
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Speaker 4: that could be carried around and it can potentially take

487
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Speaker 4: out drones as well at rapid fire stuff as well.

488
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Speaker 2: So that just made me think about the potential. I

489
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Speaker 2: don't even want to say this, but fuck it, I'll

490
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Speaker 2: say it. It's like with the ever expanding and evolving

491
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Speaker 2: capacity of drones, you know, obviously they're being used in

492
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Speaker 2: warfare already, right, Imagine if some nefarious person wanted to

493
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Speaker 2: do something to a civilian aeroplane, Like, how do they

494
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Speaker 2: control for that?

495
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Speaker 1: We like the Civil Aviation Authority.

496
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Speaker 2: And like that's I mean, that's a horrible thought, but

497
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Speaker 2: people do horrible shit, right.

498
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, the thing is you can't even import a

499
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Speaker 4: green or blue laser into the country, it would be

500
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Speaker 4: picked up by customs. So importing certain types of lasers

501
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Speaker 4: you can't unless you have very valid reasons for what

502
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Speaker 4: you'd use it for. And look, you know it's illegal

503
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Speaker 4: to actually point a laser pointer into the sky. You know,

504
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Speaker 4: that's really dumb to do. People do try to do

505
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Speaker 4: that in point them at planes. So that's why there

506
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Speaker 4: are restrictions on what you can import into the country

507
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Speaker 4: unless you've got valid reasons for, say, manufacturing that sort

508
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Speaker 4: of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Didn't I just ask you about drones and then you

510
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Speaker 1: just spoke about lasers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because we were talking about lasers that shoot drones.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right.

513
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Speaker 2: No, I was thinking, well, obviously there are there are

514
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: there are drones equipped with missiles and you know, things

515
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: that can blow shit up, right.

516
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well you could, I mean the larger drones. Well,

517
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 4: in Australia we have restrictions on the purchasing and flying

518
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Speaker 4: of drones. So if if you wanted to get a

519
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: drone that had a payload capacity that could carry something,

520
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 4: then there's pretty big restrictions. You have to have a

521
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Speaker 4: license and be registered with KASSO, the Civil Aviation Safety Authority,

522
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 4: so right own I fly, for example, is less than

523
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: two kilos in waits I could have say I had

524
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Speaker 4: a bit of fun. I went out the Geelong the

525
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 4: other day to fly my drone for a client that

526
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 4: does as best as removal near the old Ford factory,

527
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Speaker 4: and the client sent out the invitation to me to

528
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Speaker 4: go and meet him, and the location was sexy Land,

529
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Speaker 4: and of course, me being the childish person that I was,

530
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Speaker 4: there's a giant chimney stack right next to it, so

531
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Speaker 4: my opening shot was panning up this giant chimney to

532
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Speaker 4: reveal sexy Land in the background. Sorry, that was really childish,

533
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 4: but it was fun.

534
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Speaker 1: Well hang on, why were you meeting him at sexy Land.

535
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Speaker 4: No, because the building was owned by the sexy Land

536
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Speaker 4: Company and they were they'd vacated so that the Asbestus

537
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 4: roofing could be taken off and repurposed. A lot of

538
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Speaker 4: those buildings along the dock area there in North Geelong

539
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 4: have been amazingly changed. They had old mills and things,

540
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Speaker 4: and now they've got vintage stores and cafes. I was

541
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Speaker 4: super impressed. If you're looking for a day trip, go

542
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Speaker 4: to Geelong and check out all these amazing old buildings

543
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Speaker 4: that have been repurposed for interesting shopping and in sexy

544
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Speaker 4: l Indevidently Geelong's has evolved.

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Speaker 1: A lot in the last decade or so. It's a

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Speaker 1: bit of a metropolis now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really nice place. I lived there for a while.

548
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Speaker 4: When I first moved out of home, I went on,

549
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Speaker 4: did you for those people who don't know Geelong? It's

550
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Speaker 4: the second largest city in Victoria, following Melbourne. Pretty big plane. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: well we have.

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Speaker 2: We have listeners from all over the world who are gone,

553
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Speaker 2: where the fuck is Geelong?

554
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well they probably know where Melbourne is. So

555
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: it's a fair bed that an hour away from Melbourne

556
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 4: along down the road. Yeah, yes, just down the road.

557
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: And I've got cousins in Europe who think that Australia

558
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 4: is too far to come to, but ask me every

559
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Speaker 4: time when I'm going to be there next, because it's

560
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 4: further for them to come here than it is for

561
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Speaker 4: me to go there. As Astragans, we're so used to

562
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Speaker 4: traveling for a shit ton of time, aren't we. You know,

563
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Speaker 4: I when you're on a plane and you're flying to

564
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Speaker 4: Europe or something and you think, oh man, we've been

565
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 4: going for so long, I wonder how far we've gone

566
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 4: and you haven't even crossed the country yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

567
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,239
Speaker 4: but but no, it's it's kind of look. I I

568
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Speaker 4: think that all these new innovations with travel and hopeful,

569
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Speaker 4: I mean, my big dream is that hypersonic travel will

570
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Speaker 4: be happening soon. To buy hypersonic travel so you can

571
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Speaker 4: get to like, you know, Melbourne to New York and

572
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Speaker 4: I don't know, three or four hours, wouldn't they be?

573
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Speaker 1: How far away?

574
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Speaker 2: Is?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's another one hypersonic there was.

576
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Speaker 2: I was reading something the other day about another.

577
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Speaker 1: What's above hypersonic?

578
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Speaker 2: Is it where they get like into the out of

579
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Speaker 2: the stratosphere?

580
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess so they go kind of up,

581
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Speaker 4: let the earth rotate underneath them and then yeah, I

582
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Speaker 4: think it.

583
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Speaker 2: Was like one hour from New York to London or

584
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Speaker 2: something crazy that they're talking about testing flights next year.

585
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Speaker 1: But yeah, supersonic would be what would that?

586
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Speaker 2: What do you reckon that's going to reduce Melbourne to

587
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Speaker 2: LA because Melbourne to LA now is like fourteen hours, right.

588
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, supersonic is when you're just over the speed

589
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Speaker 4: of sound. That was the like concord flu Supersonic hypothes

590
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Speaker 4: next level up right, Yeah, what.

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Speaker 2: A pity, that's that concord fucking hit the hit the

592
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: wall metaphorically.

593
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was. I saw that, and I didn't see

594
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,959
Speaker 4: it actually happened, but I was working in news and

595
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 4: saw all the because it was it was video. You know,

596
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 4: you saw it break apart. It was pretty pretty full long,

597
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 4: wasn't it. Did you do you remember that? Craigo?

598
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Speaker 2: I remember, and I remember that because I wanted to

599
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: fly in the concord like that was one of the

600
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Speaker 2: things that I wanted to do when I could afford it,

601
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Speaker 2: and then not anymore.

602
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Speaker 1: Well, could do you imagine?

603
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Speaker 2: I mean, without boring everyone, but imagine this like something

604
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: that's flying supersonically. Imagine how well engineered and built that

605
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 2: thing needs to be, and imagine the immense pressure and

606
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: stress on everything.

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Speaker 4: Well that I always found it fascinating that the pilots

608
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 4: couldn't see out the front of the plane when it

609
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 4: was flying supersonic, So what.

610
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Speaker 1: Were they just looking at screens and flying by.

611
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Speaker 4: The nose used to come up, remember when it was parked,

612
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 4: and those would drop down for landing, and then it

613
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 4: would come up so that it was more streamlined. That

614
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: was so cool.

615
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Speaker 2: That's like me seeded versus running. My nose goes up

616
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Speaker 2: when I start running.

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Speaker 4: You knows, Okay, Brian, all right, keep going.

618
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Speaker 2: Tell us about how looking at our dog can connect

619
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Speaker 2: our brain with theirs, because this feels like a you

620
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Speaker 2: and Tiff subject.

621
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Speaker 4: It kind of is, I suppose, so when we have

622
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Speaker 4: a conversation, So if you and I have a conversation,

623
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Speaker 4: you start to visualize. So I talked about sexy land

624
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 4: and a giant chimney, and that connects our brains. And

625
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 4: what science has realized and you probably know a little

626
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 4: bit about this, our brains become in sync because there

627
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: are different processing parts of our brains, say for linguistics, thought, concept, imagination.

628
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Speaker 4: So we can get into sync with human beings. And

629
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Speaker 4: it was thought that we couldn't do this with animals.

630
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Speaker 4: Now it's believed we can with dogs. And when we

631
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Speaker 4: talked to a dog and we look them in the eye,

632
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Speaker 4: they've used magnetic imaging and so they've scanned the brain

633
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Speaker 4: of a human scanned the brain of a dog, and

634
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 4: they realize that we can connect on a level where

635
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 4: our brains can be firing in a similar way. And

636
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 4: pet owners that are in sync literally with their dogs

637
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 4: can synchronize their brain activity at the same time. And

638
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Speaker 4: I thought that was really interesting.

639
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Speaker 1: I have so many questions about that. How does that,

640
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Speaker 1: what's the what's the consequence of that?

641
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: Like, what do we see when these too, this human

642
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: and canine brain are in sync.

643
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Speaker 1: What happens?

644
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Speaker 4: Well, I guess it brings the connection between the human

645
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 4: and the dog on a deeper level. I mean, this

646
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 4: was researched in China, so it's called neural coupling. Okay,

647
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 4: So what's exciting about this is it's never been observed

648
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Speaker 4: within spec different species before. So the brain activity aligns

649
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 4: during this interaction. Because for us we talk it through.

650
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 4: We can have so many different ways to communicate, but

651
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 4: with dogs, it's that eye contact and then trying to synchronize.

652
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Speaker 4: So I mean in terms of it's good for you know,

653
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 4: an encounter or a way that we interact with our

654
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 4: pets as well, it takes it to a deeper level

655
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 4: of connectedness. And if look, if if you've really loved

656
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Speaker 4: a dog, or you kind of like walking a dog,

657
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Speaker 4: and you like padding dogs and connecting with an animal

658
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Speaker 4: because they do value add our lives so much. And

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Speaker 4: I guess only people who've had dog, dogs or a

660
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Speaker 4: cat can really conceptionalize what that means and implications for

661
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Speaker 4: people as they get older and this, you know, they

662
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 4: need company that've lost a partner. I think the notion

663
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Speaker 4: that we can connect on that level scientifically is kind

664
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Speaker 4: of fun. It's I mean, what the implications are. I

665
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 4: mean for training, it's important. So if you're cleaning your dog,

666
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 4: it may assist in you being able to kind of

667
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 4: get on the same sink and level with the dog

668
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: while you're doing that training. So it's kind of getting

669
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 4: their focus on a more higher level and then being

670
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 4: able to use that to be able to further train

671
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 4: the dog. So what are the real implications. I don't know.

672
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: I have a nice story for you. Sorry, Tiff, then

673
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 2: you jump in. I have a nice story for you

674
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: that you both love. So yesterday, because my algorithm is

675
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: all thanks to Tiff and a few other people. My

676
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: algorithms fucking dogs and or motorbikes and or bodybuilders and

677
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 2: or science.

678
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: It's not much else.

679
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: So yesterday this video came up and it was this

680
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: lady who she had this German shepherd that was like

681
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 2: four or five years old.

682
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: That was her puppy.

683
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: And all, and it just all of a sudden, the

684
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: dog started getting She could tell the dog was distressed,

685
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: and the dog would come up and just push her

686
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: nose between the ladies breasts, so just put her and

687
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: she was she would whenever she would lie down, the

688
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: dog would go up and just put her head on

689
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: the chest and like push her. And she knew that

690
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: something was wrong and she ignored it. And after about

691
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: a week of this, she so she thought there was

692
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Speaker 2: something wrong with the vet. Took the dog to the vet.

693
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: Everything's fine, and then she went, maybe she's trying to

694
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: tell me something. So she went, and you know what

695
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to say. So she went to the doctor

696
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: and she had stage three lung cancer. And the dog

697
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: could smell the cancer, and the dog knew something was wrong.

698
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 2: And she got treated and is okay now. But if

699
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: not for the dog, because she had no symptoms, she

700
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 2: was asymptomatic. Isn't like, I don't know how the fuck works,

701
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: But how how fucking amazing is that not only could

702
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: the dog smell the cancer, but she knew the dog

703
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: knew that it was bad like the dog. The dog

704
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: was concerned and anxious. It wasn't just like ah, there's

705
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: another smell. It's like, no, this is not a good smell.

706
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: And as a result of the dog doing that, it

707
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: literally saved her mum's life, or her owner's life, whatever you.

708
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: Want to call it. So I thought that was fucking gorgeous.

709
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 4: It's amazing. You sent me a video clip this week

710
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 4: and I started crying.

711
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you, I cried.

712
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 4: Why would you do that? My colleague looks a bit

713
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 4: like Hagrid. He's like six foot four, big and hairy.

714
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: And here a shout out to Hagrid.

715
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 4: Yeah it, And here am I sniffling at my computer

716
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 4: because you sent me a whole lot of dog clips

717
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: of really beautiful dog omen.

718
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: Oh that guy that I said, did I send that

719
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Speaker 1: to you? Tiff? There's that guy.

720
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Speaker 2: He's a is a vet, and he's just a beautiful man.

721
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: He's just a beautiful human and he's like, I mean, like,

722
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: I think some people be come vets because it's a

723
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: good career and they're doing a good thing. And I

724
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: would assume most vets somewhere between like and love animals,

725
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 2: but some people that's like, no, animals are their purpose

726
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 2: and it's like they just happen to become a vet

727
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: because they want to look after animals when they're at

728
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: the most vulnerable. And that guy, he's like the Mother

729
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 2: Teresa or the bloody Dellai Lama of animals.

730
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: He's a great guy.

731
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty good, you know. Getting back to

732
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 4: this story. I was just thinking that one of the

733
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 4: things that's been proven with animals and human behavior is

734
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 4: people on the autism spectrum. So people are able to

735
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 4: interact on a level that they may not necessarily be

736
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 4: able to interact with humans, but they can get a

737
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 4: real sense of connectedness and comfort from an animal. And

738
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Speaker 4: that's the symbiosis. I mean, it's been what twenty thousand

739
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 4: years or something. I don't know how long we've had

740
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 4: domesticated dogs, but certainly they've been acting opanions and guardians

741
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 4: and emotional support for such a long time.

742
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, And isn't it amazing when you think that all

743
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: dogs came from wolves and they look at you look

744
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: at them now.

745
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: You look at the fucking the massive cross section of

746
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: fluffy white things just prancing down the Hampton Street like

747
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: little fucking show ponies. And then and then.

748
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: Saint Bernards and Rottwiler's And if I feel I cut

749
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: you off before. Were you going to say something when

750
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: I started telling my story about the vet when we.

751
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 3: Were talking about the eye contact with the dogs. We

752
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: did a practice of that on the Himalayas. I don't

753
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 3: know if I told you Patrick where we did. I

754
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: think that they called it transfiguration, if that's right. It

755
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: was just five minutes sitting face to face with someone.

756
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: We did it verse thirty five minutes in total, because

757
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 3: there were seven of us just sitting and just staring

758
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: into the eyes of the other person, and it was

759
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 3: really really energetically profound, and you know, I don't know

760
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 3: what's happening, but you connect and you go through all

761
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 3: these different energy shifts and people ended up in tears

762
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: and it was amazing.

763
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: Did you find that easy to like looking at anything

764
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: for thirty five minutes and focusing and being present what

765
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: seemed to be not an easy task or do you

766
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: kind of lose yourself in it?

767
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: You lose It was very confronting to start with that.

768
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 3: I've done the practice once before at another workshop, but

769
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 3: it's I think the challenging part is the allowing yourself

770
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: to be seen, and we did after the first couple

771
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 3: we did facilitated ones where person A would energetically be

772
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: the one holding space or holding the other person and

773
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: the other person being held, and that was really challenging,

774
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: especially when you look at male female dynamics and some

775
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,240
Speaker 3: just people's different experience with those different moments.

776
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: But yeah, the.

777
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: Being seen and the dropping of your guard and the

778
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: stuff that we knew about the other person because of

779
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: the conversations we've had before. So there's a lot in that.

780
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: Wow, that would take courage, I think, I think for

781
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: a lot of people, maybe me included. I'm not sure

782
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: I have never done that. I would think that would

783
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 2: be that's a brave thing to do. Imagine if you're

784
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 2: sit and you look at someone and you just see

785
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: fucking evil, You're like, I'm out, Well.

786
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 4: You see it.

787
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: You see a lot.

788
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Speaker 3: And I remember at the first workshop I ever did at,

789
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: which was MICHAELA. Bome. She was a guest I'd had

790
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 3: on the show and she does embodiment and the whole

791
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: range of stuff. But there were parts to that exercise

792
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: where we would have to report to the other person

793
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: with boundaries, with instructions about what we saw and so

794
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 3: you and it was interesting what people complete strangers could

795
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: feel or see in you. Amazing?

796
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: How did you go with that?

797
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: That would to me that that's interesting that you because

798
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: you know, you've been quite protective and quite you know,

799
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 2: like I always say that T shirt that says give

800
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: me a hug and the cap that says fuck off.

801
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, how how was that for you?

802
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 3: Well, I could feel the embodiment of the practice of

803
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 3: trust to let go and just go okay, I'm going

804
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: to let you see me and I'm going to be

805
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: okay with that, and I'll let you see whatever you

806
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 3: see and not control it. It's you go really deep

807
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: within yourself in a way that I don't think I

808
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 3: would normally have had access to. So yeah, it was.

809
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: It was confronting and what's the real.

810
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that this is curiosity, not judgment. What's

811
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: the reason, Like, what's what's the what's the consequence or

812
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 2: potential benefit or outcome?

813
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: I think both in site and connection right for that,

814
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 3: like insight and connection and letting guards down. Like I said,

815
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 3: when we did the practice this last time, we had

816
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 3: the night before shared the deepest parts of our stories

817
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 3: with the group, so we knew a lot as well.

818
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 3: So it's then, yeah, I don't know for me, it

819
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 3: was an act of trust and connection and letting go

820
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: and being and not controlling and observing what comes up

821
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: and accepting it.

822
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: It's like a level of It's like a level of

823
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: intimacy with a stranger, isn't it.

824
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: Oh big time.

825
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing I probably didn't tell you

826
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: after the trip. The morning after we'd shared our stories

827
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: and then we'd come down and did mindful movements so

828
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: similar to pilates or yoga, Patrick, your style of movement true,

829
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: and towards the end of that, and this has happened

830
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 3: twice to me before in yoga practices after a significant event.

831
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 3: But we got towards the end and we were just

832
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 3: like moving our spine or whatever, and out of absolutely nowhere.

833
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 3: I got so overwhelmed with emotion that I just ended

834
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 3: up lying there sobbing. And then after we left the class,

835
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 3: everyone went for breakfast and I just went back to

836
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: my room for a moment, had.

837
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: A big cry.

838
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: And then when I often had breakfast, but it was

839
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: just this like, oh, there wasn't a thought associated with that.

840
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: There's emotion in my body and I've let it come

841
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: up and I don't know what it is, but cool.

842
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 4: That's so profound.

843
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is, isn't it? Well? Emotion.

844
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 2: Emotion lives in your body, and sometimes your body knows

845
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: what it needs more than you occupier.

846
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting?

847
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: Shift your You can move parts of your body and

848
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: release it and it just comes up and there's actually

849
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: no link to the thoughts in your mind. There's no

850
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: conscious thought. I sought associated to it, Yes.

851
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 4: Which in our bodies so much. And one of the

852
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 4: little exercises I like to do when we do our

853
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 4: beginning warm ups for our Tai Chiese session is just

854
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: to do that little exercise of breathing in for four seconds,

855
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 4: holding for four then letting go for four and I

856
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 4: do that twice that I go six seconds, then eight seconds,

857
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 4: and I can look at my pulse rate because I've

858
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 4: got my phone, my watch, you know, tracking my heart rate,

859
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 4: and I can see it drop. You know that slow breathing,

860
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 4: focusing just on your breathing process can actually slow your

861
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 4: heart rate right down. And I've observed maybe a five

862
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 4: point drop. Now that seems like a lot to me.

863
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 4: Crago five points for your heart rate to drop down

864
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 4: and be in a state of relaxation.

865
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: There's lots of research.

866
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of box breathing around, activating your parasympathetic

867
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 2: nervous system without trying to sound like a geek, which

868
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: is you know, the calm the farm. Yeah, I know

869
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: I have white code hypoten you know what.

870
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 4: That is, right?

871
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: I haven't so yeah, and I'm somewhat better now.

872
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: But my blood pressure would be fine.

873
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: And this is embarrassing because it's a fear response and

874
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: such a big fucking baby. And I'd go in and

875
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: my blood pressure would be two million over a million.

876
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 5: And they'd go, fucking hell, call the cops quick, you did, Yeah.

877
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: And then I'd go, hang on, just give me a moment,

878
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 2: and I just sort of and then it would be normal.

879
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: They're like what. I go, Yeah, I'm a big baby.

880
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, go to the GP. And as soon as they

881
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 4: put the cuff on me, they'll start the process. And

882
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 4: halfway through, I think, oh, I'm holding my breath. Yes, yes,

883
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 4: what the hell? I'm a rational person and yet that

884
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 4: is so irrational to see yourself doing that. There was

885
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 4: a study that I read, maybe it's a couple of

886
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 4: years ago, and they talked about the fight or flight

887
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 4: mechanism that we have, so when we get in to

888
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 4: a tense situation, may be fearful, our breathing becomes more rapid.

889
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 4: We start to breathe quickly. It's shallow breathing as well.

890
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 4: There's none of that real depth of breathing. It's that,

891
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 4: you know, that real panic kind of breathing. And what

892
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 4: they did was they observed people watching horror films and

893
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 4: they analyzed what their brain. They took their blood pressure

894
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 4: and heart rate and all that sort of stuff, and

895
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 4: what they got people to do was at the scariest

896
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 4: parts of the movies, they got them to slow down

897
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 4: their breathing. And what the research has found was that

898
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 4: what your lungs are doing can overwrite your brains fight

899
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 4: or flight. So the physiological slow breathing stopped the fear

900
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 4: and stopped the fight or flight. So, despite what was

901
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 4: on screen. So the next time you go to a

902
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 4: horror film, not that I watch them personally, but slow,

903
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 4: you're breathing down and you're less likely to be scared. Yeah,

904
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Speaker 4: that you know.

905
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Speaker 1: I've been talking about this a little bit lately.

906
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Speaker 2: Around I started watching this series that somebody recommended to

907
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 2: me called The Fall FA Double L The Fall Right,

908
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: and it's about essentially about this mass murderer, this dark, twisted,

909
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 2: sick fuck. I watched like two episodes and I realized

910
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: when I was watching it it made me feel almost sick,

911
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: and I am somewhat anxious, and I'm like, why am

912
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 2: I watching this? This is so bad? But a bunch

913
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: of people would reckon. And I'm not saying people shouldn't

914
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: watch it. I'm just saying for me, I don't know that.

915
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 2: Like I have this thing where I watch things and

916
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: it's like I almost become intertwined with that thing for

917
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: an hour or whatever. And I think that just just

918
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: the way that we you know, we're so careful about

919
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: what we put in our body in terms of food

920
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: and drugs and booze and water, and we've got to

921
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: be careful what we put in our mind because that

922
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: shit has an impact.

923
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 4: I totally. I find there's a new movie that's just

924
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 4: come out. I'm not I don't even know what the

925
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 4: name is, and I probably wouldn't mention it if I did,

926
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 4: but they're saying it's so horrific that people who are

927
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 4: going to it are throwing up, why the hell would

928
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 4: you want to subject yourself to that? You know, this

929
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 4: is the person who likes to play, you know, meditative

930
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 4: music and stuff, and I kind of I've even drifted

931
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 4: away from conventional TV and I've curated my YouTube channel

932
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 4: to watch stuff that makes me feel positive and elated

933
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: and interesting. So when you go to my channel, there's

934
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 4: lots of short movies. I love watching really beautifully produced stuff.

935
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 4: There's a really great channel called Dust, and there's amazing

936
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 4: sci fi and you know producers out there, people making

937
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 4: amazingly creative you know Cinema that's you know, three five,

938
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 4: ten twenty minute movies that you can watch for free

939
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 4: just by subscribing. YouTube's got so much great stuff on it,

940
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: and I guess the choice to watch something moving or

941
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: up lifting or a person who's a great passionate vet

942
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Speaker 4: with dogs that he loves like you sent me the

943
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 4: other day. You know, Yeah, it's a good cry. It's

944
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 4: an affirmation of the fact that, you know, I came

945
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 4: out of that Craygo thinking I love my dog so much.

946
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Speaker 4: I think I talk about Fritz every episode, don't I.

947
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

948
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a show. There's a show on the ABC.

949
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Speaker 2: I think it is. I've watched it two weeks in

950
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Speaker 2: a row. Accidentally. I got in bed last night, I

951
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: just put on the telly and it so happened. So

952
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Speaker 2: last night was Thursday night. It's called Long Lost Family.

953
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

954
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 2: And these people that were like the parents and the

955
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,479
Speaker 2: babies went different for what.

956
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: A range of reasons.

957
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: And then ah, I'm just snot and tears and emotions

958
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: and tissues. Shit house, I'm like watching I watched it

959
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: last night. It's it's I mean for me, but there's

960
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: lots of crying. But to me it feels like because

961
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: it's like happy tears. Yeah, but it is funny, isn't it.

962
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: It's like crying can be like good or bad depending

963
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: on the reason for the tears, I think.

964
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Speaker 4: And that comes straight back to TIFF's story. You know

965
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 4: that you didn't even know what it was, but it

966
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 4: was that letting go that physiological response and crying is good.

967
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 4: You know in Western certainly in Australia, blokes don't cry.

968
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 4: I mean, how dumb is that?

969
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: Well that's that's well, you and I cry, but we're

970
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: not really our for male So let's be honest, Patrick,

971
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: where can people find you and follow you and you know,

972
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: just reach.

973
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 4: Out, have a chat, a cuddle. The hugs cyber cuddle

974
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 4: website that they can come over hugs. You should know

975
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: that I'll give you a hug. Websites now dot do au.

976
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 4: I do give good hugs and I've got to you

977
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: can you can actually do some TIChE with me as

978
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 4: well if you go to Taychi at home dot com

979
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 4: dot au and you can see Fritz doing ty with

980
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 4: me as well. Kind of by the way, just connect

981
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 4: give us right mate.

982
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: And if what if people want to give you a hug?

983
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: Where where's that available?

984
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 3: At hugsaras dot com, dot are you dot com, tifcook dot.

985
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: Com, forward slash tifcook dot com. We'll say goodbye affair.

986
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure about that episode. I feel like

987
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: I was the I was the weak link in that.

988
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: So everyone, I apologize retrospectively for what you just heard

989
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Speaker 4: Me too,